As someone else has stated. You will loose accuracy and possibly damage your optic bridging the scope rings from the upper to the handhuard. Handguards will flex slightly, especially when loading a bipod, causing a shift in POI. Furthermore, the scope rings mounted this way will not be perfectly aligned which pits stress on the scope tube and internals. One piece mounts with forward offset are designed specifically for the AR platform.
amen!!! that is the number one reason people I guide miss a follow up shot. I am guilty of it too in my bc .450 bushmaster. mounted a sig romeo in between the space of the hand guard and receiver for an absolute co witness ( brush bangy) jam every follow up. it need flexion to operate properly
There is a solid barrel nut underneath that part of the handguard and if you look at the bolts on the handguard it bolts right up to that barrel nut which is right underneath where the scope ring is. could there be a small amount of flex? Yes there could be a micro amount. but almost zero . where that scope ring is. because that handguard is clamped onto the barrel nut. I use three aluminum scope rings, not steel, and put the forward one out on the handguard where the barrel nut supports the handguard. I've been doing that for the last 20 years without any problem. Steel scope rings will destroy an aluminum body scope. They work just like a wheel pipe cutter and push metal out on both sides of the steel ring. Especially on heavy recoiling cartridges like the 300 Winchester mag. So anyone who has experience of actually putting a handguard onto a receiver would know that the back part of the handguard is fully supported by the barrel nut but someone who does not have any experience with an AR would make a statement like you made.
@Mike-xi4zt keep doing you, Mike. If you want to use insults, here's one for you. You are a moron for bridging scope rings between an AR upper receiver and a handguard. There is a reason why they make 1 piece scope mounts for ARs. I suppose everyone in the industry is wrong.
@@lonnlaursen496 again you still don't know what the hell you're talkin about. Those cantilever mounts were designed for the old style handguards that were not free-floating and did not have a rail on them to mount anything on. So you're the one showing your are the true moron who does not know anything about what he's talking about. A handguard that is free floating has a barrel nut that the back part of the hand guard clamps onto or bolts onto and the back part of the hand guard is fully supported by a steel barrel nut. The front part of the hand guard is not supported it is free floating the back part where that scope is mounted to is not free floating. You truly are exhibiting lack of knowledge.
Built a super budget in 350 back in Jan of 2021. BCA 16" upper, side charger (which I love). Anderson lower, PSA lower build kit with tube and butt stock and a couple pf CMMG 20-round 350-specific mags. Initially had a Sightmark M-SPEC reflex sight on it, but have since moved that to my 300 Blk pistol and topped the 350 with a SIG Bravo 3 prism sight. First several boxes of ammo I ran through it were the Winchester 150 grain Xtreme-Points. Out of 3 boxes I had one malfunction, similar to yours. After that, it's run 100% flawlessly with everything I've fed it, EXCEPT for the Browning 124-grain FMJ. That ammo uses the round nose pistol type bullets and it does not like those. Everything else has been perfect, including the 145 grain Winchester FMJ. It shoots MOA at 100 yards all day, and has even turned in some sub-MOA groups. As for lube, I started using the mix that Chad over at the School of the American Rifle channel uses (if you haven't seen his videos, I highly recommend his channel, extremely knowledgeable on all things AR-15). It's a mix of Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil and Mobil 1 synthetic grease (the red stuff). Mix to roughly the consistency of a thick syrup. It's super slick and I run my AR's wet with it. Never any issues. The thing with BCA is, it's a hit or miss with their stuff. But on the good side, they stand behind their products, so if you have an issue they'll fix it or replace it with no hassle. If you don't mind possibly having to deal with the delays of a return, you're not going to beat their prices. I have several of their uppers in different calibers and I've been fortunate as all are good runners and shooters. Just built a 20" DMR in 6.5 Grendel using a BCA stainless side charging upper. Straight out of the box with 123-grain Hornady Black ammo it's shooting sub MOA at 100 for the few rounds I had on hand. Bought some Star Line brass and some bullets to work up loads, but winter has set in, so won't get the chance to play with it much until things warm up.
Great response and i also created my own gun oil after 30plus years of racing and engine assembly and use I find mine and Chad's work awesome I have a question for you and others for example 300-blackout or 350 legend or 7.62x39 for deer 14.5 pinned
@@buellboy007 For Deer, 350 Legend, no question. 300 Blackout isn't bad, and could potentially extend your range (depends on where you hunt). 350 is a thumper though. 7.62x39 due to it's odd sized .311 diameter bullets just doesn't have the bullet selection you'll find with the other two.
Great comment through and through. A lot of folks look down their nose at Anderson lowers; but I've got to say I've never had an issue with any of the budget builds I've done while using them. Likewise with the BCA side charging uppers. The only downside I've found with them, is having to unscrew the handle to remove the bolt. Wondering if there's any way to completely open up the side of the upper to facilitate just sliding it out without compromising the integrity of the upper (I'm guessing no). Don't want to hack a donor upper to find out though. Haha
@@gierhedd75 Haven't had any issues with them, either, but I only have 2. One of my local shops sells A17 lowers. A bit nicer in shape and better finish for only a few more bucks, but I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at an Anderson. The killer with the AR is it is a simple design, but tolerance stacking can make an expensive one not run or shoot worth a hoot. Just because someone goes and buys a couple thousand dollars in parts in no way guarantees they're all going to assemble and work well together.
I have a .450 that had the same problems. I used the little sanding drums on my rotatory tool and made a u shaped cut about half of the depth of the sanding drum. I found that as the spring tension got less when fewer of the rounds were in the mag that the round would tend to tilt slightly down as it was being stripped out of the mag. I ended up with a slightly deeper cut in the mag to help clear up the same exact problem you are having here. I hope it helps.
Seems like you analyzed the feeding problem somewhat. I have one of the first BCA uppers, Magpul and RUGER ( made by Magpul (mine)) after determining there was interference from lug on feed ramps( there are 2) it was blended and ramps polished after 2 fail to feed in 1st 10 with the 5 rd mags. The upper has fired , Browning, Winchester, Federal, and Hornady without any fail to feed ,fire, or eject over 400 rounds demonstrating sub MOA to 1.5 “ at 100 yd range with Warne cantilever mounted Leupold 3x9 Optics over receiver ( not bridged to hand guard) IMPORTANT NOTE: While I developed a .35 cartridge based on .223 brass in 1979 fired out of 10” T/C for handgun silhouette and since has been duplicated by others, including Starline .223 straight wall blank. THE .350 Legend commercially loaded cartridge has a 9MM .378 CASE HEAD AND .391 BASE DIMENSION at least .015 median greater than the .376 BASE DIMENSION OF THE .223 or 5.56 NATO Cartridge. While original .350 cartridge development may have utilized the .223 case. For reliable extraction the chamber size was determined to be tapered enough to facilitate that condition. So basically you have a 9MM Super Magnum or 9 MM Maximum. NOT A 35/223. FYI. Your end conclusion recognizing the development stages of a product and BCA to accommodate their customer base was an excellent ending on a positive note. Especially when you added its excellent choice as a deer cartridge. Please repost your continued experiences with the .350 Legend.
Try Magpul anti tilt followers. That solved my issues with the standard .350 mags. Wilson Combat mags are the best for .350. As others have said, switch to a cantilever mount for your scope to not have your scope on the rail.
I have the 18" stainless steel version, with a few hiccups but nothing as bad as you shown, also I bought the CMMG 350 Legend mags not the BCA, and they ran pretty good.
New bolt carrier group sometimes is in need of break in. The coatings cause drag lube it up I use anti friction clp and work the bolt carrier group by hand 100s of times then go shoot it and then it's mags if it's still doing it or a ramp issue . Love my BCA upper in 6.5 grendel
Those like to run wet lube the heck out of the bolt. Run the bolt about 100 times by hand. May have to polish feed ramps. Probably have to try a few different mags. Probably want to install anti-tilt followers in mags. These are from personal experience working on 2 BCA uppers. Don't give up on it! Mine will not run with 170 gr. Bullets.
Yea I lubed the piss out of it after modifying the magazine and I think that did help it was borderline dripping 😅 I’ve had good luck with browning bxr which is 155gr. It’s been hard to find around me tho. I may try polishing the feed ramps next. Thanks for the feed back!
I looked into getting one, they use to say it was made for hornady black ammo which ive never seen. Bought a radical firearms version and had 2 misfeeds. Called and they said to cut a couple coils off the mag and it has worked flawless since
I also have a BCA 350 Legend upper. It works great. I have it on a YHM 300 Blackout lower. Perhaps you have a buffer issue. Might need a different spring or buffer.
Thanks for the input, I have a new buffer coming in the mail to see if that helps with the issue. Right now I'm compiling video on a part 2 for this to see what ultimately ends up working.
I have a .450 and also ended up using the Springco Red spring to help with pushing the round into lockup. An H3 buffer was too much, as was an H1 buffer. I went back to standard buffer with the red spring and it seems to work great so far.
Yea that's what my set up is and this is my go to now. Ended up changing out the buffer to a H2 and it works great. I have a part two video that shows it up and running. 👍
Haha thanks for the feed back! Several others have pointed this out too and I've admitted to being misinformed 😅 Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
As others have said, duramags are the way to go. And while i'm at it , may I make a suggestion.... Why are you using twenty round mags in a hunting rifle? Am I correct in saying that you can only load three rounds in the rifle at a time while hunting? Get the 5 round Duramags and i think all of your problems will go away. There seems to be an issue across the board when using a twenty round mag in a 350 legend. And not just BCA.
Mine had the same issue like yours mine failed to feed near 3rd round and 7 or 8 round . Changed to wilson combat mag problem solved . The followers tilt way to much on the cmmg mag .
From experience I can never recommend bridging the optic mount from the upper receiver to the handguard. Have you had any experience in accuracy issues with this practice? Curious to hear another perspective.
I was just talking to my brother about this before we shot this video. So far it has kept zero and been great but I told him I was thinking of moving it closer to the rear.
I have a bca 350 the only issues I have ever had is with the hornady ammo. Wouldn’t load any of the rounds from a whole box. Tried every mag wouldn’t work. Winchester and federal no issues at all
they are tight in all the calibers now. hard to close a bolt of any honady brass on my .350 and .450 if you reload use starline brass. it is a thicker brass but for some reason it runs by far the best. unfortunately I have to shy away from hornady brass. the projectils work great in the right brass. hornadys head thickness is .002 thicker than starline and Underwood.
@@traumaisbest my issues was solely with the one box of Hornsby ammo not a single round out of the box of 20 would cycle in my gun with trying 3 separate magazines. All other brands of ammo tried no issues at all
@@traumaisbest I had issues with the diameter of the crimp out if the hornady ammo for the 450. I did not realize that until i started reloading. I kept a bore bush with me thinking it was hanging on un-burnt powder. now i just have mags that scratch the hell out of my brass
It's the mags! I replaced the barrel on my BCA upper with one from Wilson Combat. I'm shooting the Browning 124gr ammo. I still get an occasional feed issue. Two things. First I have dremeled some mags for a friend of mine for 223 where the rim of the case was catching. They now work fine. I didn't take off so much. All you need to do is slant the inside edge of the metal lip so the rim can't catch. Second thing is I bought some anti-tilt followers. I'm going to try those. I just got them a couple of days ago.
I have a 16in 350 upper... had feeding issues...bought Wilson Combat mags...still had problems. Sent gun back to BCA..they said they polished feed ramps.. still have feeding issues. I've tried Duramags..cmmg and WC. Not the mags. Tried several different ammo manufacturers...not the ammo.
I filed on the front edge of my magazines also seemed to work great. I also polished my feed ramp and chamber. I used mother’s polish. Seems to run pretty good
Slow the system down. The bcg is moving too fast for the mag spring to push the stack up. Get an H3 buffer and an Odin adjustable gas block and turn it down as low as you can. All your brass should be popping out into a pile at around 5 o’clock.
The 350 legend was not developed from the 223 case. If you doubt try making a 350 case from a 223. The magazines won't work without serious modification...
My mistake. It uses the same rim diameter and is the same length. when it first came out I read that it was developed from .223 and just wasn't bottle necked. Clearly I was misinformed.
The issue is a combo of mags and ammo. I tried polishing the feed ramps as well no change. The only thing that worked every time all the time was 5rd ASC 350Lengend mags(MI requires 5rd limit) and Winchester 180gr Power points and 150gr deer season XP ammo. That mag and ammo combo always feed correct. Tried Hornady 170gr and it would fail on the 4-5th rd each time. Hope this helps.
I had the same issue with a build,I basically went thru the whole riffle, polished the barrel an feed ramp,I trimmed the mags(Duramag) changed my gas tube to a Odin works an what I found out was my buffer spring an weight.i bought a heavy spring an a H2 an h3 buffer.play with the weights a little bit but now the riffle sings like a humming bird.The trick was the buffer you have to play with the round cycle.if it cycles to fast BCA uppers will catch the round an not feed.u need something with just enough force to push the round in battery but not damage the round or the feed ramps.hope that helps an happy shooting my brother
350 IS NOT the parent cartridge for 350 legend. Thought the same myself until I found that it actually is NOT, though they may share the same diameter head internally they are different. Also to solve feeding issues, switch to 10rd mags, unfortunately 20s just do not work for the 350
Yea others have corrected me on this too. I remember reading that about it when it first came out and I was misinformed, I promise I didn't make it up lol. 10 round mags were sold out in my area at time of filming and I couldn't find the 10 rounder I had when I originally bought the gun. I'm still working through this rifle and filming the process with plans to do a "part two" video and will incorporate some of the suggestions in the comments to see what works. Thanks for watching!
350 legend lancer magazines from Wilson combat They have already modified the magazines to work,Polish your feed ramps and your chamber needs to be polished also, Is very important with the bca uppers Lancer put a heavier Spring in from a 30 round mag ,and anti tilt Followers. You can also modify your CMMG magazines put it anti follower cut down the front of the Meg and use a 30 round Spring it's all about the Spring tension behind the Bullet
I have two of the bear creek arsenal, 350 legend complete uppers 16 inch and 10 1/2 inch did not know if you’re running the right magazine for it but mine runs flawless over 500 rounds between the two of them never had a failure to feed or failure to fire
Send it back my cousin and my son had problems with there's, they even pay for shipping and return no questions and I have their 350 as well running flawless.
Yes, I have no doubt they will make it right. I might still send it back or continue to try and get it running myself. The frustrating part of this is that this seems to happen a lot and my point is send the product out the door correctly the first time. Having to do warranty work all the time can’t help the bottom line.
I had the exact same problem with mine! I wasn’t happy with their products or their customer service so I just bought a quality rifle instead. I know people that have BCA products and swear by them…they just weren’t the company for me.
100%. What did you end up going with? BCA seems to be hit and miss with 350 legend. My brother has one and his works great but he had to send it back initially. I bought a 5.56 side charging upper from them and it worked great. Wish they were more consistent.
Johnny come lately here! The Cartridge Rim is catching on The Ejector, OR The Extractor. Bottom Corners/Edges of each, Smooth with #400 grit Sand Paper, and you're good to go! 10 months late, and by now I'm sure you figured it out. It isn't the; Chamber, Feed Ramps, OR Magazine. It's always the bottom edge of the Ejector OR the Extractor
It's not the magazine it's the feed ramp. I have 2 BCA 350 Legend uppers, both are identical except one is a side charger and one is a rear charger, I've run them both on the same lower, and only had this problem on the rear charger. It has a split 300 blackout feed ramp, the side charger has one big feed ramp like a 450 BM, I also had this issue on a split ramp chambered n 7.62x39, I removed the jump in the middle of.tje ramp and the problem was gone. Polishing may fix it as well.
I run soft point ammo thru aks and ars the problem is its a bear creek arsenal upper which are junk bottom of the barrel my friend brought one to my house couldn't run one drill with 3 different types of ammo and had 2 or 3 malfunctions every drill out of every mag he sold it a couple days later and ordered a psa upper and was getting better group's with a eotech then this guy is getting with a lpvo scope bear creek arsenal products are junk
The bolt carrier group should be cleaned and lubed with Lucas Red and Tacky #2, the receiver should also be cleaned, and the feed ramp of the barrel lubed. Bear Creek Arsenal makes a nice product but don't expect it to run like a Daniel Defense.
It is the mags I have the exact same setup and it sounds crazy but I put a marble in the low end of the mag and that evened up the spring tension on the Follower an I have had zero jambs since it is worth a try and I can still get 20 in the mag
need to polish the chamber to solve the failure to feed problem. It is a common issue. Use a drill and polishing compound and one of the white things from your gun cleaning kit.
I can tell you, you will need a H3 or heavier buffer, also braided spring, also you will need to modify your magazine follower by adding .100 thousand shim in front to prevent tilting.
Thanks! And yes, You’re right. I’m guilty of the “good enough” accuracy when it comes to this. I had to re zero it last year and it has held so far. I don’t shoot this gun much and don’t take shots at game with it farther than 100 yards so it’s been effective for what I need it for. Would like to tighten it up when I have more time and less wind.
Hope yours goes well! They're affordable for sure. Lot of other companies sprouting up in that price point too. There are a lot of options out there right now.
No it's a upper problem my friend got a bear creek arsenal upper he couldn't run a single mag without double feeds failures to extract strait junk he some it 2 days later bought a psa
Get some Mothers polish in the red and white tub then polish the feed ramps and the top on the barrel where the cartridge makes contact....you're problem will be solved in less than 5mins. Mags are not the issue....thank me later 🥃🥃
It’s not the mag it’s the bca upper. They have lots of issues with 350 legend. Faxon barrels and mos tek barrels feed fine when using 170 gr hornady ammo
In these 350s, there are a few things it could be. Industry uses 2 styles of feed ramps. The single ramp, and enlarges m4. Ive seen more issues with the m4 style. Ive heard also if the barrel extension isnt true with receiver how receiver and barrel extension meet, sometimes there can be a slight lip that can hang your bullet up. Not sure if others have the issue too, but seen more jams with hornady ammo. Not sure, but by eye brass looks to be slight enough thicker maybe it hangs on the magazine lip easier.
It's not the magazine. It's the upper, I tried trouble shooting it by modifying the mag but it didn't help. It's an upper issue. CMMG is also the magazine that BCA recommends and sells on their website. Why recommend a magazine that would cause issues?
@Armor Plated Adam according to your video, after modification to your magazine, it ran flawless. So, are you thinking of the feed ramps? Head spacing? Possible ammo or possible gas block alignment? Let us know what you find out. BCA isn't all bad, but they have their moments with QC.
Never said it was flawless after the magazine mod. If you watched I said it was better but still not great. Haven't had time to do more trouble shooting on it but when I get it running "flawless" I'll let you know.
@Armor Plated Adam Sorry, maybe I didn't make it my comment clear. What I'm saying is that the video didn't show any flaws or malfunctions after the magazine was ground down in the front. I'm not saying you said it ran flawless afterward. I'm guessing it's due to editing that it looked like it ran flawless. My bad for making the assumption about that.
All good. I fired two full magazines through it after and had 2 malfunctions each time. I sped the video up for the sake of time while I cleared the malfunctions then went back to normal speed. So I'm guessing that's why you missed it.
Don't no about 350 legend but I no 556 bear creek arsenal uppers are strait up trash junk I wouldn't drop one on a lower if it was free my friend couldn't get a single mag run thru his without 4 or 5 malfunctions then my buddy brought one up about 6 months later same problem stay away from that brand if u want a good budget AR upper go with psa thousands of rounds no malfunctions thru a dozen of different uppers from people around me psa uppers run good in the rain or any conditions after seeing bear creek arsenal uppers and handling them they are truly crap
@@Superb_Legend u are lucky man man I've never seen a bear creek arsenal upper that ran well but never known anyone with that low of a round count either we shoot 500 rounds in a day training session thru each firearm we are running so I guess maybe u don't shoot alot like yours maybe they hold up decent I'm not sure I've had people that come to train with us and they just don't handle the abuse
The biggest problem with bca quality is the poor machine finnish in thier chambers and feed ramps. The chamber being the big issue. Get in there with a barrel mop that is tight in the chamber with some fine diamond polish and a drill and go a little at a time until the tooling ridges are smooth. ( check often you obviously don't want to remove too much material. You want to polish not enlarge the chamber.) OH and don't bridge your scope between the reciever and barrel shroud. I saw no one mentioned that 🤣🤣🤣. Best of luck .
I dont know about that. Many seem to be happy with them. We are lucky we have companies like BCA, Palmetto, and Anderson helping common men to own/afford these, thus making them COMMON. You got companies like Daniel Defense that seem to have some pretty stupid opinions on civilian ownership, as well as some other high roller brands that have done very little to arm the common man with their uppity pricing. Just another way to look at it friend.
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill I agree with u a 100% I'm glad there are budget options on the market I want to see as many new gun owners in this country as possible everyone should get into the gun community I was just stating if people are going go with a budget AR stick with psa I've seen good things is all I was saying but budget options are good
@@timothycain4512 Yeah, they seem pretty squared away. They had issues, or may have still here and there, but when your cranking out the amount that they do, its going to happen. When high roller companies have issues, sometimes they thumb their nose to the customer. When companies start doing stuff in house like PSA and Anderson and the like, they generally start getting better. Anderson is good too, not seen too many issues with them either. They do pretty much everything in house now too. I don't have any BCA built stuff, but did use one of their 350 barrels with single ramp in a build, and I've not seen any issues yet. PSA is DPMS too now, if you see newer made ones.
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill yea I've had Anderson they have run great but sold them off got couple psa traded them off got another psa upper and lower and a psa lower with bcm upper but they have run great the 556 bear creek uppers I've handled and my training buddy's that I have run drills with had non stop issues they sold them and went psa and never turned back I like ARs but more of a AK guy but yea I don't hate on budget ars glad there out there for people on a budget my new psa upper is probly around 3k never had 1 malfunction I'd trust it on my life tell u the truth they have built AR so long they done worked out the kinks a long time ago I don't care for the bear creek handguards either or the way they perform and I'm talking about 3 different samples which is a chance they were lemons I don't no but all had the same issues where every ps that comes to the range to train just eat everything u put in them in any kind of mag u push in them is all I'm saying and Anderson is pretty good most there uppers are very punchy from what I've noticed but they do run
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill the biggest thing I've noticed from budget ARs to higher end ARs is the higher end bolt throw a little smoother and not as snappy on recoil besides that the psa and bcm eats every kinda ammo u run thru them I don't hate on cheep Russian ammo I don't shoot distance shooting groups we mainly run drills on a timer behind barricades from 40 to 100 yards so as far as distance accuracy I'm not going to speak on to be honest I would be lying if I did I just don't run distance accuracy drills it's not what we do we do short range rifle to pistol transition drills on a clock with several mag changes on a clock
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As someone else has stated. You will loose accuracy and possibly damage your optic bridging the scope rings from the upper to the handhuard. Handguards will flex slightly, especially when loading a bipod, causing a shift in POI. Furthermore, the scope rings mounted this way will not be perfectly aligned which pits stress on the scope tube and internals. One piece mounts with forward offset are designed specifically for the AR platform.
amen!!! that is the number one reason people I guide miss a follow up shot. I am guilty of it too in my bc .450 bushmaster. mounted a sig romeo in between the space of the hand guard and receiver for an absolute co witness ( brush bangy) jam every follow up. it need flexion to operate properly
Don't know how anyone with some degree of AR experience would mount a scope like that.
There is a solid barrel nut underneath that part of the handguard and if you look at the bolts on the handguard it bolts right up to that barrel nut which is right underneath where the scope ring is. could there be a small amount of flex? Yes there could be a micro amount. but almost zero . where that scope ring is. because that handguard is clamped onto the barrel nut. I use three aluminum scope rings, not steel, and put the forward one out on the handguard where the barrel nut supports the handguard. I've been doing that for the last 20 years without any problem. Steel scope rings will destroy an aluminum body scope. They work just like a wheel pipe cutter and push metal out on both sides of the steel ring. Especially on heavy recoiling cartridges like the 300 Winchester mag. So anyone who has experience of actually putting a handguard onto a receiver would know that the back part of the handguard is fully supported by the barrel nut but someone who does not have any experience with an AR would make a statement like you made.
@Mike-xi4zt keep doing you, Mike. If you want to use insults, here's one for you. You are a moron for bridging scope rings between an AR upper receiver and a handguard. There is a reason why they make 1 piece scope mounts for ARs. I suppose everyone in the industry is wrong.
@@lonnlaursen496 again you still don't know what the hell you're talkin about. Those cantilever mounts were designed for the old style handguards that were not free-floating and did not have a rail on them to mount anything on. So you're the one showing your are the true moron who does not know anything about what he's talking about. A handguard that is free floating has a barrel nut that the back part of the hand guard clamps onto or bolts onto and the back part of the hand guard is fully supported by a steel barrel nut. The front part of the hand guard is not supported it is free floating the back part where that scope is mounted to is not free floating. You truly are exhibiting lack of knowledge.
Built a super budget in 350 back in Jan of 2021. BCA 16" upper, side charger (which I love). Anderson lower, PSA lower build kit with tube and butt stock and a couple pf CMMG 20-round 350-specific mags. Initially had a Sightmark M-SPEC reflex sight on it, but have since moved that to my 300 Blk pistol and topped the 350 with a SIG Bravo 3 prism sight. First several boxes of ammo I ran through it were the Winchester 150 grain Xtreme-Points. Out of 3 boxes I had one malfunction, similar to yours. After that, it's run 100% flawlessly with everything I've fed it, EXCEPT for the Browning 124-grain FMJ. That ammo uses the round nose pistol type bullets and it does not like those. Everything else has been perfect, including the 145 grain Winchester FMJ. It shoots MOA at 100 yards all day, and has even turned in some sub-MOA groups.
As for lube, I started using the mix that Chad over at the School of the American Rifle channel uses (if you haven't seen his videos, I highly recommend his channel, extremely knowledgeable on all things AR-15). It's a mix of Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil and Mobil 1 synthetic grease (the red stuff). Mix to roughly the consistency of a thick syrup. It's super slick and I run my AR's wet with it. Never any issues.
The thing with BCA is, it's a hit or miss with their stuff. But on the good side, they stand behind their products, so if you have an issue they'll fix it or replace it with no hassle. If you don't mind possibly having to deal with the delays of a return, you're not going to beat their prices. I have several of their uppers in different calibers and I've been fortunate as all are good runners and shooters. Just built a 20" DMR in 6.5 Grendel using a BCA stainless side charging upper. Straight out of the box with 123-grain Hornady Black ammo it's shooting sub MOA at 100 for the few rounds I had on hand. Bought some Star Line brass and some bullets to work up loads, but winter has set in, so won't get the chance to play with it much until things warm up.
Great response and i also created my own gun oil after 30plus years of racing and engine assembly and use I find mine and Chad's work awesome I have a question for you and others for example 300-blackout or 350 legend or 7.62x39 for deer 14.5 pinned
@@buellboy007 For Deer, 350 Legend, no question. 300 Blackout isn't bad, and could potentially extend your range (depends on where you hunt). 350 is a thumper though. 7.62x39 due to it's odd sized .311 diameter bullets just doesn't have the bullet selection you'll find with the other two.
Great comment through and through. A lot of folks look down their nose at Anderson lowers; but I've got to say I've never had an issue with any of the budget builds I've done while using them.
Likewise with the BCA side charging uppers. The only downside I've found with them, is having to unscrew the handle to remove the bolt.
Wondering if there's any way to completely open up the side of the upper to facilitate just sliding it out without compromising the integrity of the upper (I'm guessing no). Don't want to hack a donor upper to find out though. Haha
@@gierhedd75 Haven't had any issues with them, either, but I only have 2. One of my local shops sells A17 lowers. A bit nicer in shape and better finish for only a few more bucks, but I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at an Anderson.
The killer with the AR is it is a simple design, but tolerance stacking can make an expensive one not run or shoot worth a hoot. Just because someone goes and buys a couple thousand dollars in parts in no way guarantees they're all going to assemble and work well together.
I have a .450 that had the same problems. I used the little sanding drums on my rotatory tool and made a u shaped cut about half of the depth of the sanding drum. I found that as the spring tension got less when fewer of the rounds were in the mag that the round would tend to tilt slightly down as it was being stripped out of the mag. I ended up with a slightly deeper cut in the mag to help clear up the same exact problem you are having here. I hope it helps.
I have a bca 350 upper with cmmg mags. Love it. She’s 3 for 3 on deer for the 2 years I’ve owned it
Seems like you analyzed the feeding problem somewhat. I have one of the first BCA uppers, Magpul and RUGER ( made by Magpul (mine)) after determining there was interference from lug on feed ramps( there are 2) it was blended and ramps polished after 2 fail to feed in 1st 10 with the 5 rd mags. The upper has fired , Browning, Winchester, Federal, and Hornady without any fail to feed ,fire, or eject over 400 rounds demonstrating sub MOA to 1.5 “ at 100 yd range with Warne cantilever mounted Leupold 3x9 Optics over receiver ( not bridged to hand guard) IMPORTANT NOTE: While I developed a .35 cartridge based on .223 brass in 1979 fired out of 10” T/C for handgun silhouette and since has been duplicated by others, including Starline .223 straight wall blank. THE .350 Legend commercially loaded cartridge has a 9MM .378 CASE HEAD AND .391 BASE DIMENSION at least .015 median greater than the .376 BASE DIMENSION OF THE .223 or 5.56 NATO Cartridge. While original .350 cartridge development may have utilized the .223 case. For reliable extraction the chamber size was determined to be tapered enough to facilitate that condition. So basically you have a 9MM Super Magnum or 9 MM Maximum. NOT A 35/223. FYI. Your end conclusion recognizing the development stages of a product and BCA to accommodate their customer base was an excellent ending on a positive note. Especially when you added its excellent choice as a deer cartridge. Please repost your continued experiences with the .350 Legend.
Part two coming soon
Try Magpul anti tilt followers. That solved my issues with the standard .350 mags. Wilson Combat mags are the best for .350.
As others have said, switch to a cantilever mount for your scope to not have your scope on the rail.
I have the 18" stainless steel version, with a few hiccups but nothing as bad as you shown, also I bought the CMMG 350 Legend mags not the BCA, and they ran pretty good.
There is a grove inside the standard magazine that pinches the round causing feeding issues.
New bolt carrier group sometimes is in need of break in. The coatings cause drag lube it up I use anti friction clp and work the bolt carrier group by hand 100s of times then go shoot it and then it's mags if it's still doing it or a ramp issue . Love my BCA upper in 6.5 grendel
Those like to run wet lube the heck out of the bolt.
Run the bolt about 100 times by hand.
May have to polish feed ramps.
Probably have to try a few different mags.
Probably want to install anti-tilt followers in mags.
These are from personal experience working on 2 BCA uppers.
Don't give up on it!
Mine will not run with 170 gr. Bullets.
Yea I lubed the piss out of it after modifying the magazine and I think that did help it was borderline dripping 😅 I’ve had good luck with browning bxr which is 155gr. It’s been hard to find around me tho. I may try polishing the feed ramps next. Thanks for the feed back!
I have same upper and had the same issue out of box. Take apart the bolt and clean it. Also polish the feed ramp and bore. Mine runs perfect now.
I was going to say that thing sounds super dry.
I looked into getting one, they use to say it was made for hornady black ammo which ive never seen. Bought a radical firearms version and had 2 misfeeds. Called and they said to cut a couple coils off the mag and it has worked flawless since
Nice that's good to know. I hadn't heard of that fix but will keep that in mind for any future issues. 👍
I also have a BCA 350 Legend upper. It works great. I have it on a YHM 300 Blackout lower. Perhaps you have a buffer issue. Might need a different spring or buffer.
Thanks for the input, I have a new buffer coming in the mail to see if that helps with the issue. Right now I'm compiling video on a part 2 for this to see what ultimately ends up working.
I have a .450 and also ended up using the Springco Red spring to help with pushing the round into lockup. An H3 buffer was too much, as was an H1 buffer. I went back to standard buffer with the red spring and it seems to work great so far.
Have the bca 350 upper on a palmetto lower. 10 round mag no issue at all in fact I love it and it's my go to deer gun here in Michigan
Yea that's what my set up is and this is my go to now. Ended up changing out the buffer to a H2 and it works great. I have a part two video that shows it up and running. 👍
Will any of their lowers work? Fixing to do the same build! It’ll be my first
I had similar issues with my 18" BCA 350 Legend. I switch to Dura Mags which has fixed the issue.
No problem with my dura mags either.
Hey, just a heads up, The 350 Legend does not have a parent case.. the rim diameter is the same as a 223 but thats not its parent case... great video.
Haha thanks for the feed back! Several others have pointed this out too and I've admitted to being misinformed 😅
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
As others have said, duramags are the way to go. And while i'm at it , may I make a suggestion.... Why are you using twenty round mags in a hunting rifle? Am I correct in saying that you can only load three rounds in the rifle at a time while hunting? Get the 5 round Duramags and i think all of your problems will go away. There seems to be an issue across the board when using a twenty round mag in a 350 legend. And not just BCA.
Mine had the same issue like yours mine failed to feed near 3rd round and 7 or 8 round . Changed to wilson combat mag problem solved . The followers tilt way to much on the cmmg mag .
Maybe I'll give those a try. Thanks!
From experience I can never recommend bridging the optic mount from the upper receiver to the handguard. Have you had any experience in accuracy issues with this practice? Curious to hear another perspective.
I was just talking to my brother about this before we shot this video. So far it has kept zero and been great but I told him I was thinking of moving it closer to the rear.
I have a bca 350 the only issues I have ever had is with the hornady ammo. Wouldn’t load any of the rounds from a whole box. Tried every mag wouldn’t work. Winchester and federal no issues at all
they are tight in all the calibers now. hard to close a bolt of any honady brass on my .350 and .450 if you reload use starline brass. it is a thicker brass but for some reason it runs by far the best. unfortunately I have to shy away from hornady brass. the projectils work great in the right brass. hornadys head thickness is .002 thicker than starline and Underwood.
Hornady is all I have in .350 and .450. No issues yet. Mags and dirty rifles are probably the most common reasons for troubles.
@@traumaisbest my issues was solely with the one box of Hornsby ammo not a single round out of the box of 20 would cycle in my gun with trying 3 separate magazines. All other brands of ammo tried no issues at all
@@traumaisbest I had issues with the diameter of the crimp out if the hornady ammo for the 450. I did not realize that until i started reloading. I kept a bore bush with me thinking it was hanging on un-burnt powder. now
i just have mags that scratch the hell out of my brass
It's the mags! I replaced the barrel on my BCA upper with one from Wilson Combat. I'm shooting the Browning 124gr ammo. I still get an occasional feed issue. Two things. First I have dremeled some mags for a friend of mine for 223 where the rim of the case was catching. They now work fine. I didn't take off so much. All you need to do is slant the inside edge of the metal lip so the rim can't catch. Second thing is I bought some anti-tilt followers. I'm going to try those. I just got them a couple of days ago.
I have a 16in 350 upper... had feeding issues...bought Wilson Combat mags...still had problems. Sent gun back to BCA..they said they polished feed ramps.. still have feeding issues. I've tried Duramags..cmmg and WC. Not the mags. Tried several different ammo manufacturers...not the ammo.
I filed on the front edge of my magazines also seemed to work great. I also polished my feed ramp and chamber. I used mother’s polish. Seems to run pretty good
Slow the system down. The bcg is moving too fast for the mag spring to push the stack up.
Get an H3 buffer and an Odin adjustable gas block and turn it down as low as you can. All your brass should be popping out into a pile at around 5 o’clock.
The 350 legend was not developed from the 223 case. If you doubt try making a 350 case from a 223. The magazines won't work without serious modification...
My mistake. It uses the same rim diameter and is the same length. when it first came out I read that it was developed from .223 and just wasn't bottle necked. Clearly I was misinformed.
Has anyone mentioned you need to learn how to mount a scope on an AR15?
No you're the first....
The issue is a combo of mags and ammo. I tried polishing the feed ramps as well no change. The only thing that worked every time all the time was 5rd ASC 350Lengend mags(MI requires 5rd limit) and Winchester 180gr Power points and 150gr deer season XP ammo. That mag and ammo combo always feed correct. Tried Hornady 170gr and it would fail on the 4-5th rd each time. Hope this helps.
Much appreciated anything that has helped in the past with others is with a try. 👍
I had the same issue with a build,I basically went thru the whole riffle, polished the barrel an feed ramp,I trimmed the mags(Duramag) changed my gas tube to a Odin works an what I found out was my buffer spring an weight.i bought a heavy spring an a H2 an h3 buffer.play with the weights a little bit but now the riffle sings like a humming bird.The trick was the buffer you have to play with the round cycle.if it cycles to fast BCA uppers will catch the round an not feed.u need something with just enough force to push the round in battery but not damage the round or the feed ramps.hope that helps an happy shooting my brother
@@trevishornsby7385 Telling people you changed a whole bunch of things without knowing the root cause of your issue doesn't help LoL.
350 IS NOT the parent cartridge for 350 legend. Thought the same myself until I found that it actually is NOT, though they may share the same diameter head internally they are different.
Also to solve feeding issues, switch to 10rd mags, unfortunately 20s just do not work for the 350
Yea others have corrected me on this too. I remember reading that about it when it first came out and I was misinformed, I promise I didn't make it up lol.
10 round mags were sold out in my area at time of filming and I couldn't find the 10 rounder I had when I originally bought the gun. I'm still working through this rifle and filming the process with plans to do a "part two" video and will incorporate some of the suggestions in the comments to see what works. Thanks for watching!
350 legend lancer magazines from Wilson combat They have already modified the magazines to work,Polish your feed ramps and your chamber needs to be polished also, Is very important with the bca uppers Lancer put a heavier Spring in from a 30 round mag ,and anti tilt Followers. You can also modify your CMMG magazines put it anti follower cut down the front of the Meg and use a 30 round Spring it's all about the Spring tension behind the Bullet
I modded the mag that way but haven't put a 30 round spring in. Might try that and see if it runs better.
I have two of the bear creek arsenal, 350 legend complete uppers 16 inch and 10 1/2 inch did not know if you’re running the right magazine for it but mine runs flawless over 500 rounds between the two of them never had a failure to feed or failure to fire
Send it back my cousin and my son had problems with there's, they even pay for shipping and return no questions and I have their 350 as well running flawless.
Yes, I have no doubt they will make it right. I might still send it back or continue to try and get it running myself.
The frustrating part of this is that this seems to happen a lot and my point is send the product out the door correctly the first time.
Having to do warranty work all the time can’t help the bottom line.
I noticed the your brass is ejecting forward of 3 o'clock. This might be an indication of being Over Gassed. You might try going to an H2 Buffer.
Good catch! That's actually what I ended up doing and it helped a lot. Thanks for watching!
I had the exact same problem with mine! I wasn’t happy with their products or their customer service so I just bought a quality rifle instead. I know people that have BCA products and swear by them…they just weren’t the company for me.
100%. What did you end up going with? BCA seems to be hit and miss with 350 legend. My brother has one and his works great but he had to send it back initially. I bought a 5.56 side charging upper from them and it worked great. Wish they were more consistent.
Johnny come lately here!
The Cartridge Rim is catching on
The Ejector,
OR
The Extractor.
Bottom Corners/Edges of each,
Smooth with #400 grit Sand Paper, and you're good to go!
10 months late,
and by now I'm sure you figured it out.
It isn't the;
Chamber,
Feed Ramps,
OR
Magazine.
It's always the bottom edge of the Ejector
OR
the Extractor
Better late than never 😂
It's not the magazine it's the feed ramp. I have 2 BCA 350 Legend uppers, both are identical except one is a side charger and one is a rear charger, I've run them both on the same lower, and only had this problem on the rear charger. It has a split 300 blackout feed ramp, the side charger has one big feed ramp like a 450 BM, I also had this issue on a split ramp chambered n 7.62x39, I removed the jump in the middle of.tje ramp and the problem was gone. Polishing may fix it as well.
Magpul needs to step in with mags for 6.5 Grendel, 6 mm ARC, and 350 . All good rounds held back by mags.
Where do I get 350 legend magazines ❓
Online or at a local gun store. Not much variety in them tho. Main manufacturer seems to be CMMG.
@@armorplatedadam cmmg doesn't manufacture them just has their name on it
I bought lancer mags at wilson combat. Specific for 350L.no probs since.
Wilson combat mags are great. Also try different ammo. Mine wont run hornady American whitetail, but anything from winchester runs like butter
Brownells, PSA.
Soft point ammo always an issues with semi-automatic firearms. It never feds properly. Happen to my AR-10.
That makes sense. The last couple mags in this video were FMJ target loads and they seemed to work better but still had hiccups.
I run soft point ammo thru aks and ars the problem is its a bear creek arsenal upper which are junk bottom of the barrel my friend brought one to my house couldn't run one drill with 3 different types of ammo and had 2 or 3 malfunctions every drill out of every mag he sold it a couple days later and ordered a psa upper and was getting better group's with a eotech then this guy is getting with a lpvo scope bear creek arsenal products are junk
The bolt carrier group should be cleaned and lubed with Lucas Red and Tacky #2, the receiver should also be cleaned, and the feed ramp of the barrel lubed. Bear Creek Arsenal makes a nice product but don't expect it to run like a Daniel Defense.
I just expect it to run. Cycling through a magazine without a failure isn’t too much to ask for.
@@armorplatedadam bear creek arsenal AR uppers are junk
At the end of the day, it's still an AR, and they love to run wet... yours looked a bit dry when the rounds were getting jammed. Just my 2 cents.
It is the mags I have the exact same setup and it sounds crazy but I put a marble in the low end of the mag and that evened up the spring tension on the Follower an I have had zero jambs since it is worth a try and I can still get 20 in the mag
need to polish the chamber to solve the failure to feed problem. It is a common issue. Use a drill and polishing compound and one of the white things from your gun cleaning kit.
If you're not educated on what your shooting stop making negative gun reviews.
Thanks for watching
I can tell you, you will need a H3 or heavier buffer, also braided spring, also you will need to modify your magazine follower by adding .100 thousand shim in front to prevent tilting.
I ended up switching to H2 buffer and NiB BCG and it smoothed things out. Very reliable now.
My bca 350 upper is magazine picky, most are good I have one 5 rounder that jams like that every time
1st volley - action looked dry as a bone, no bueno on a new , semi new rifle... Bridged scope is not good either.
It's most likely your magazine...namely the follower...Magpul anti tilt followers should be the way to go as other people have said...good luck
No disrespect but that’s a bad grouping at 50yrds. At 50yrds, your grouping should be on top of each other. Great looking gun though
Thanks! And yes, You’re right. I’m guilty of the “good enough” accuracy when it comes to this. I had to re zero it last year and it has held so far. I don’t shoot this gun much and don’t take shots at game with it farther than 100 yards so it’s been effective for what I need it for. Would like to tighten it up when I have more time and less wind.
Just ordered mine will be delivered this Friday 329.00 includes mag
Hope yours goes well! They're affordable for sure. Lot of other companies sprouting up in that price point too. There are a lot of options out there right now.
Jb bore paste and polish the rear part of the chamber until it's a mirror.
I think the upper is fine. It looks like the ammo you were using was the main culprit... Also, I wouldn't trust a magazine you have to "modify"...
Was that an M17 in the intro? How do you like it?
It sure was. I like that gun I have an unboxing and first shots video about it and a 1200 round cleaning video on it if you want to check those out.
Sounds like a magazine problem not an upper problem. I haven't had any issues with my BCA 350 legend. I use CMMG mags, don't know what you're using.
That’s what I’m using too. I’ve used 10 round and 20 CMMG mags and both have had issues. Might need to try a Duramag or something.
No it's a upper problem my friend got a bear creek arsenal upper he couldn't run a single mag without double feeds failures to extract strait junk he some it 2 days later bought a psa
@@armorplatedadam I think Duramag/Cproducts is same as CMMG and Ruger made mags.
What optic are you using?
It's a Sig Sauer. Whiskey 3, 3-9x is the type and power.
Thank you!!
Check the buffer might need a different one 556 buffer might be the problem
I filed all my mags and feed ramp, problem solved for me🤙🏽
Put H2 buffer in it.
What part of Iowa are you from?
I live west of the Mississippi and east of the Missouri 😅
I didn't even needed to finish the video to know what the issue is.
Get some Mothers polish in the red and white tub then polish the feed ramps and the top on the barrel where the cartridge makes contact....you're problem will be solved in less than 5mins. Mags are not the issue....thank me later 🥃🥃
Sounds good I’ll give it a try. 👍
@@armorplatedadam You should do a vid on your process.
Don’t use car wax, use flitz and a dremel on feed ramps
Part 2 coming soon!
epic fail? your video talents!
Thanks for watching!
It’s not the mag it’s the bca upper. They have lots of issues with 350 legend. Faxon barrels and mos tek barrels feed fine when using 170 gr hornady ammo
I love BCA. Hard to beat for the price. The .350 prob isn't the best design for the platform.
What do you base your comment on? Surely thousands of .350 L AR users can't be wrong. No problems with my BCA .350 or .450 uppers.
Winchester designed the round specifically for the AR platform.
Worst scope mounting job in the history of scope mounting.
You was on track with the mag but didn't do enough and only did one side.
what buffer weight?
Carbine length and weight
Clean n lub ur buffer n spring n clean n lub ur bolt all movin parts i use 20 round mags never had a problom with it
Mags, the Achilles' heel of semi autos..
In these 350s, there are a few things it could be. Industry uses 2 styles of feed ramps. The single ramp, and enlarges m4. Ive seen more issues with the m4 style. Ive heard also if the barrel extension isnt true with receiver how receiver and barrel extension meet, sometimes there can be a slight lip that can hang your bullet up. Not sure if others have the issue too, but seen more jams with hornady ammo. Not sure, but by eye brass looks to be slight enough thicker maybe it hangs on the magazine lip easier.
You have a gas issue your rounds are ejecting erratically watch your video some are 1 o'clock some barely getting out.
FYI, your scope rings should both be on the upper, not upper, and forward stock.
FYI it's a hand guard and I know.
@Armor Plated Adam I've had people call it both. But yes, hand guard.
Swap to an h3 buffer. Slow down the bolt
Thanks I'll give that a try.
.223 and 556 are not the parent case.
Nice scope. Please get it off the handguard.
Looking scope rings like something wrong
Oh yea for sure something wrong 😅
When I first got this and put the scope on I just threw it on without paying attention and have since moved it back.
"Minute of plate" accuracy at 102 yards. Uhm, O.K.¡¡¡¡
It cost money to send back. Just spend that money up front...
seems as if you are hanging your disappointment on a mag issue.
Not really just working through what could be the problem areas. Mag seemed most likely at the time.
You can't blame BCA for a magazine issue. A magazine epic fails, yes. Not the uppers' fault.
It's not the magazine. It's the upper, I tried trouble shooting it by modifying the mag but it didn't help. It's an upper issue. CMMG is also the magazine that BCA recommends and sells on their website. Why recommend a magazine that would cause issues?
@Armor Plated Adam according to your video, after modification to your magazine, it ran flawless. So, are you thinking of the feed ramps? Head spacing? Possible ammo or possible gas block alignment? Let us know what you find out. BCA isn't all bad, but they have their moments with QC.
Never said it was flawless after the magazine mod. If you watched I said it was better but still not great. Haven't had time to do more trouble shooting on it but when I get it running "flawless" I'll let you know.
@Armor Plated Adam Sorry, maybe I didn't make it my comment clear. What I'm saying is that the video didn't show any flaws or malfunctions after the magazine was ground down in the front. I'm not saying you said it ran flawless afterward. I'm guessing it's due to editing that it looked like it ran flawless. My bad for making the assumption about that.
All good. I fired two full magazines through it after and had 2 malfunctions each time. I sped the video up for the sake of time while I cleared the malfunctions then went back to normal speed. So I'm guessing that's why you missed it.
It's the mag
Elmer Fudd !
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Oh it’s windy again…great
Telling Iowa not to be windy is like telling water not to be wet.
Mount is backwards.....
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Cmmg makes junk and sells junk. I've told people that for years. Switch your mag to anything else. Seriously CMMG is junk
Don't no about 350 legend but I no 556 bear creek arsenal uppers are strait up trash junk I wouldn't drop one on a lower if it was free my friend couldn't get a single mag run thru his without 4 or 5 malfunctions then my buddy brought one up about 6 months later same problem stay away from that brand if u want a good budget AR upper go with psa thousands of rounds no malfunctions thru a dozen of different uppers from people around me psa uppers run good in the rain or any conditions after seeing bear creek arsenal uppers and handling them they are truly crap
Definitely some QA issues. Especially with rear charging I have a side charger with 500+ rounds and haven't had single malfunction.
@@Superb_Legend u are lucky man man I've never seen a bear creek arsenal upper that ran well but never known anyone with that low of a round count either we shoot 500 rounds in a day training session thru each firearm we are running so I guess maybe u don't shoot alot like yours maybe they hold up decent I'm not sure I've had people that come to train with us and they just don't handle the abuse
The biggest problem with bca quality is the poor machine finnish in thier chambers and feed ramps. The chamber being the big issue. Get in there with a barrel mop that is tight in the chamber with some fine diamond polish and a drill and go a little at a time until the tooling ridges are smooth. ( check often you obviously don't want to remove too much material. You want to polish not enlarge the chamber.) OH and don't bridge your scope between the reciever and barrel shroud. I saw no one mentioned that 🤣🤣🤣. Best of luck .
That's not epic
Junk
Bear creek arsenal AR uppers are trash
I dont know about that. Many seem to be happy with them. We are lucky we have companies like BCA, Palmetto, and Anderson helping common men to own/afford these, thus making them COMMON. You got companies like Daniel Defense that seem to have some pretty stupid opinions on civilian ownership, as well as some other high roller brands that have done very little to arm the common man with their uppity pricing. Just another way to look at it friend.
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill I agree with u a 100% I'm glad there are budget options on the market I want to see as many new gun owners in this country as possible everyone should get into the gun community I was just stating if people are going go with a budget AR stick with psa I've seen good things is all I was saying but budget options are good
@@timothycain4512 Yeah, they seem pretty squared away. They had issues, or may have still here and there, but when your cranking out the amount that they do, its going to happen. When high roller companies have issues, sometimes they thumb their nose to the customer. When companies start doing stuff in house like PSA and Anderson and the like, they generally start getting better. Anderson is good too, not seen too many issues with them either. They do pretty much everything in house now too. I don't have any BCA built stuff, but did use one of their 350 barrels with single ramp in a build, and I've not seen any issues yet. PSA is DPMS too now, if you see newer made ones.
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill yea I've had Anderson they have run great but sold them off got couple psa traded them off got another psa upper and lower and a psa lower with bcm upper but they have run great the 556 bear creek uppers I've handled and my training buddy's that I have run drills with had non stop issues they sold them and went psa and never turned back I like ARs but more of a AK guy but yea I don't hate on budget ars glad there out there for people on a budget my new psa upper is probly around 3k never had 1 malfunction I'd trust it on my life tell u the truth they have built AR so long they done worked out the kinks a long time ago I don't care for the bear creek handguards either or the way they perform and I'm talking about 3 different samples which is a chance they were lemons I don't no but all had the same issues where every ps that comes to the range to train just eat everything u put in them in any kind of mag u push in them is all I'm saying and Anderson is pretty good most there uppers are very punchy from what I've noticed but they do run
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill the biggest thing I've noticed from budget ARs to higher end ARs is the higher end bolt throw a little smoother and not as snappy on recoil besides that the psa and bcm eats every kinda ammo u run thru them I don't hate on cheep Russian ammo I don't shoot distance shooting groups we mainly run drills on a timer behind barricades from 40 to 100 yards so as far as distance accuracy I'm not going to speak on to be honest I would be lying if I did I just don't run distance accuracy drills it's not what we do we do short range rifle to pistol transition drills on a clock with several mag changes on a clock
The problem comes from magazine, not the Bear Creek.
We shall see when part 2 drops
First thing I check on every mag I buy. Click bait bullshit
Not sure what part of this is click bait but ok.
Looks like you have a magazine issue, not a gun issue.
really, pointing rifle to the sky while charging........many times, bad idea, have a slam fire & round is airborne towards your neighbors, bad idea !!
What part of Iowa are you from?