I still don't understand, there are two types of approaches. 1. Implement new features and fix bug. (Kde) 2. Build a stable system and improvise it. (Gnome) Both have their pros and cons and both are awesome. But don't forget to appreciate their achievements.
I’ve been using GNOME for 8 years now. Every update I’m excited. For me, GNOME 46 with VRR and 46.1 with explicit sync was by far the most exciting period. I also started using KDE for the first time with the launch of Plasma 6, on my other machine. And I gotta say both are amazing in their own rights. I love Linux! We should band together instead of fighting with each other. The real enemy is Windows, never forget.
Windows is your enemy because you want Windows to be you enemy. Btw: Some *BSD user think Linux is the enemy. For me, stupid idelogical wars are the enemy.
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585 ikr, commenting on my MacBook with macOS 15. I kind of appreciate what each and every OS has to offer. I use Windows 7, Windows 11, Fedora 40, and macOS 15 all the time. And FreeBSD is amazing too! I think people should just use what they like and not utilize products to spite companies. Rather, people should pick platforms for what they actually do better. For instance, I pick Fedora over Win11 for university because I like the extra window management features that simply do not exist natively on Windows. But I also find myself picking up Windows, because of the awesome audio quality and superior NVIDIA support (NVIDIA 560 did fix a lot of issues on Fedora though). Games went from running at 2 fps under lInux to around 90 fps. Not as good as windows, but its getting there. Here's to hoping they bring the open kernel modules to user space. That is what really needs to happen to get feature parity between Windows and Linux for team green people.
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585 unlike Linux, the COMPANY behind Windows is all about data collection, whereas YOU become the product. Yes, Windows IS the enemy to privacy concerned people.
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585oh yeah, I guess you're right, just handwave all critique for windows as "stupid ideological wars" or "wanting windows to be the enemy", rather than understanding that it's terrible on the metrics that matter the most, like privacy and ownership.
@@Felipe-rn1gf I mean, Gnome’s focus now is on being a simple to use yet feature-full for business and workers, while KDE feels like it’s targeting the community more instead of that, there’s also stuff like optimization, which I felt missing when I installed KDE with Plasma taking a rough 20% usage on my cpu (Core i5 7th gen), but I never had this in Gnome which felt much more optimized and focused on stability and optimization unlike KDE
I very much agree. It's more or less the main reason why I don't daily drive GNOME. But combined with several other things that also make it so hard to use. After KDE Plasma 6 came out I have decided to finally start using that, and I don't regret it. Coming from Xfce though. All on Arch btw.
Not exactly true. Because Linux is all about sharing, improvements and innovations in one desktop environment may be used in another environment. So improvements in gnome may show up in other desktop environments, especially the one that you use. Remember, a rising tide lifts all boats.
The blur issue is because fractional scaling works by rendering at the next integer scale (200%) and then downsizing (150%) with a shader. This is because GTK internally only supports rendering at whole integer scales. It's a legacy issue because people back in the day 30-40 years ago weren't able to predict that we would one day want fractional scaling. Back then even integer scaling required lots of CPU. So scale was represented as an integer. And then it stuck around as a core fact of the APIs, which nobody had the courage to mess with. I heard that GTK5 will have true fractional scaling.
@@MyAmazingUsername Thr blurriness that people are talking about here is an artifact of the way GNOME handled XWayland apps. Native Wayland has been tack-sharp with fractional scaling for a few releases now, even if not as good as it could be.
MacOS does the same. They also have an old GUI that doesn't support fractional scaling. On that, for now, windows wins everyone. But yeah, as said above, now it was more an XWayland issue. Normal rendering is acceptable.
Hah, I didn't even notice that so far. Tbh, I don't think that this matters at all, since those "unsaved settings" pop ups on other Desktops are also quite annoying
I hope really hope that electron flatpak apps start using Wayland as default and not Xwayland which makes everything blurry on Fractional scailing. That is like my biggest issue on Wayland right now.
Ubuntu Cinnamon runs off Gnome so far I am liking Steam gaming on it with proton and Cyberpunk 2077 downloaded faster than on Windows Microsoft is failing badly guys and turning into dystopian future based technology we were warned in the movies about this now it's being forced down our throats in real life.
I think Gnome is in a great spot at the moment. They have a great app ecosystem rapidly expanding(seriously, it’s every day I see a new app being teased). Gnome team are really using that STF money to get features added. The accent colors look gorgeous(tad limited imo, would love to see some more colors or a color picker added in the future). I honestly can’t decide which DE to install anymore. KDE and Gnome are killing it right now.
Though I insalled KDE DE to my Fedora install, the jump was jarring. I could see how KDE's windows, scrollbars and taskbar icons were not as polished and were taking a lot of space. Changing from 150% to 120% window scaling and restarting helped, but KDE really needs a cleanup of their padding and icon sizes
I use Ubuntu 24.04 with the previous Gnome version and if I change the accent color of the OS, it also changes the color folders. BTW thx for the update ;)
Ubuntu uses their own theme which is why it works. Technically the same can be achieved on native Gnome when changing it, but it should be a thing in libadwaita in my opinion.
This video should have been uploaded at 60fps, to highlight the animation quality of menus, windows, buttons, etc (I still liked the video for better reach; don't worry)
The current problem is, that I'm hardware limited by my camera which can't to 4k or 1440p 60fps. Having a mixed video can look weird and some editing templates don't work right this way.
@@MichaelNROHno it doesn't. Record video at 1080p30 or 60 and desktop at 1080p60. Export at 4k60 for higher bitrate. No one will notice the lower source pixels as I assume most are watching on their phones anyway where FPS and compression artefacts are much more noticeable than more pixels.
I was one of the people who did a little bit of testing on the xwayland fractional scaling thing! Very cool to see it get into stable thanks to the work of a lot of people MUCH SMARTER THAN I AM
Looks better. I still have some Wayland troubles with gnome so I went back to KDE. Something I thought I’d never say considering how far ahead gnome was with Wayland a few years ago
Both Gnome and KDE are great and I'd like to daily drive them, but I'm shackled to window managers as they are the only ones that provided screen independent workspaces.
I still wonder why this hasn't been made the default in Gnome yet. Especially Gnome, with it's workspaces feels like a great fit. There is an open issue somewhere which tracks this feature, though given that workspaces is a core feature of Gnome, it's kinda hard to adjust it seems. I'm pretty sure it's something that will be added eventually
I've always been a KDE Plasma kind of guy, but even some of these changes in GNOME have gotten my attention a bit. That lock screen was actually pretty sweet looking, to be honest. Maybe someday I'll give GNOME a real try again, but as of now, I still feel much more at home with KDE. But this is just one of the many reasons why I love Linux. You have almost endless amount of possibilities available to you, rather than just a default desktop environment from companies like Apple or Microsoft, where you're stuck with their defaults with maybe the ability to customize things at a minimum.
Can't wait for openSUSE to drop this just days (or even hours) after the official release. They are always the quickest when it comes to new Gnome Versions.
I'm just now getting the hang of GNOME 46 as a new user with extensions and theming. Guess I'll wait until everything gets updated on the user side. I do like what I saw.
I am very uncertain about that actually. The desktop looks really beautiful and smooth, but I see a lot of tunnel vision keep holding things back, mostly on the practical side. Forcing client side decorations and adwaita style on everything, without considering any integration with anywhere else, other desktops with different style and theming. And not giving the first priority to the most important things, such as fixing fractional scaling or making customizing keyboard shortcuts very easy. Like others say, those who develop a desktop environment should really consider actually using it themselves. KDE is so much further in all this regard.
@@NugentFan will look into it. If I have to pull up the terminal to copy anything bigger than 30 mb into an SSH server what is the point of using a file manager at all? Also, does it spawn child processes instead of separate processes with one as a parent? Because wtf does it crash every window when only one crashes? Gnome never fails to disappoint.
Gnome is very sleek and beautiful. but is not very customizable. so many distros ship it with extensions installed by default. I am used to windows workflow so plasma is good for me.
It should be. It's kind of difficult to test, since it was just recently merged and the Fedora Beta which has fractional scaling enabled is a bit behind with packages.
Michael, when you make a video on the next Fedora release, please keep a part where u show the things that laptop users can modify. E.g., I got to know from one of your videos that some non free codes were missing resulting in higher battery consumption on video streaming. I tried to make some changes but your videos are very easy to understand, for a total newbie without any IT fundamentals.
fox is causing trouble again 😂😂😂 outside that looks good cant wait to see more and maybe do a test on external arch instalation the background apps interaction can be fixed with extension
Cosmic DE should be the way. Is written in rust and should be fast. I have problems with linux all the time with themes and etc. hope cosmic de will be good
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585 as someone who's using it on a laptop it feels like it was purpose made for a laptop, with how the touchpad gestures work and stuff then again it's my opinion
I disagree. PICK AROUND YOUR ROOT DIR!! The beauty of Linux is ownership and exploration. Become the master of your ship. This should be the ethos of every Linux user, always.
It's all about usability really. One of the reasons on why I personally like Gnome is, that it is simple by default, yet powerful if need be. If I constantly access the root directory, I can bookmark it or enable the partition for display in the sidebar with gnome-disks (This could be enabled by default though)
I really like GNOME and as such plan on updating to GNOME 47 when I can... which is probably in about 2 years' time because I am using Ubuntu LTS. I reallly really want to go back to Fedora but it seems to just not work with my laptop's poopoo Nvidia MX230 GPU. It is actually completely dysfunctional for me on my machine for some reason. So for now, GNOME 46 and Ubuntu it is.
Ubuntu version of gnome is way more polished. I used fedora 40 gnome for a while, I was so disappointed with it that I had to switch back to fedora KDE
you still can't fix the scroll speed on laptop's trackpads without poking with libinput. Everything is great, but apparently not simple usability. A lot of poeple (me included have been waiting years for this simple fix.
This is probably not the right place to ask but I'll give it a shot anyways: I'm still running Windows 11. I have a Steinberg Audio interface (UR44c) that I use with some VSTs (Win/Mac exclusive). There are no Linux drivers for the audio interface. Is it actually doable to get the interface running smoothly under Linux with the VSTs or should I stick to Windows for that?
It entirely depends on what you want to do. The interface itself might work, as it seems to have a USB Class compliance, but their software solutions probably won't. You would need to rely to different software
@@MichaelNROH Thanks for the quick response! On Windows I'm basically running Reaper, load in my piano VST and record music. Most VSTs are Win/Mac, but I heard there are some "yabridge" based solutions around that. But if the interface won't work at all in the first place then it wouldn't even be worth trying that endeavour. Thanks again and keep up that catchy outro phrase! Grüße
I think that the default way is that it automatically extracts the file. For opening a still compressed zip, you are gonna need a dedicated program, which needs to have this functionality
Gnome just isn't my thing. I don't like the overly simplified Apple look at all. I much prefer KDE even though I seem to be in the minority, at least of people I've talked to.
I've tried KDE so many times but I always seem to run into odd bugs. And I also don't think it looks very nice. Since I also use MacOS, Gnome seems to be a little more up my alley. I do most important things in the terminal anyway.
I want to like kde but I just keep bouncing off it and going back to Gnome. I like the much simpler and cleaner interface, I like the app ecosystem. It looks pretty.
it was already frustrating that i had to go to other locations to access Root and NVMe partitions, that change basically makes Nautilus unusable for me, mainly because bookmarks don't always appear in file pickers. if thats fixed, i'll just have to add the bookmarks, which isnt as easy as it seems for folders you can't right click on (like root -_-) seems i picked a good time to move to Plasma.
I'm actually going to buy a rog zephyrus g16 2024 laptop in a few months. i doubt if some of the features will work properly. so i think i'll wait until gnome 50. in the meantime as a gnome fan i'll have to use gnome on my old computer and windows on my new computer unfortunately. i hope you develop fast Linux community. I always like and support freedom, fluidity and the light of knowledge.
i use kde before but now they only care about CoC and woke agenda... Xfce is better choice if you don't care about wayland, or use hyperland if you want wayland
As someone who struggled with KDE's bugfests countless times, you can't pay me enough to daily drive it again. It's up to people what they use, but Gnome just gives me much easier time, so I'm sticking with it for the long haul.
It's not the blurry experience that it used to be, but I'm not sure if it's really quite there yet. Could be an XWayland, contrast or simply reloading the shell bug, but it doesn't seem as sharp as other elements. It's quite the improvement however and scaling seems to be good enough for the Wayland transition now.
@@MichaelNROHThe blur is because fractional scaling works by rendering at the next integer scale (200%) and then downsizing (150%) with a shader. This is because GTK internally only supports rendering at whole integer scales. I heard that GTK5 will have true fractional scaling.
@@MyAmazingUsername The new scaling should resolve that. To be honest, this is release candidate stuff and I'm not even sure if it has been pushed to Fedora yet.
The biggest problem of GNOME is that they do not listen to their users. Apptray is still broken. It is not a design choice, it is broken. I am just waiting for Cosmic to get better to jump ship. If it takes a while I guess I will learn to use a TWM.
I am on Cinnamon right now but wondering about shifting to a distro with KDE or Gnome (Cosmic is still on Alpha so)... Which would be better in your experience?
Might as well jump ship to Sway now and get it over with. Cosmic is still a long ways out, especially with getting full screen apps and games working properly.
@@Azure_dragon0 distro hopping is just wast of time.. cinnamon is better than kde and gnome, if you want improvement you need to learn about tilling window managers, i recommand you to test garuda hyprland its not that hard
Well, Apptray is a choice since they didn't want it anymore. I have still no idea why they think that it's a good idea to minimize functionality and hide it away though
Nice additions!! Can't wait for Fedora 41 + Gnome 47
Dito
also ubuntu 24.10
Anything on Linux is better than Windows at this point Windows Recall is pushing me to shift over to Linux Microsoft SUCKS!!!!
waiting on that combo exactly! I'm excited for DNF5 on Fedora + Gnome 47 and dropping x11, huge things coming up
@@TechnoMinded-qp5inthe recall ship sailed
"Competition is the process of forcing people to perform at their best."
Thanks to COSMIC DE, Gnome devs are finally back on track.
Back on track? Still no proper system tray, no server-side decorations, no stable HDR support, no stable VRR support, no triple buffering...
I still don't understand, there are two types of approaches.
1. Implement new features and fix bug. (Kde)
2. Build a stable system and improvise it. (Gnome)
Both have their pros and cons and both are awesome. But don't forget to appreciate their achievements.
@@catto-from-heavenYou sound uninformed, and jealous that GNOME is the most popular desktop environment for a good reason.
@@MyAmazingUsername Why would I be jealous if I use Gnome?
@@catto-from-heaven The suspicion is natural cause kde users never leave an opportunity to trash talk Gnome
I’ve been using GNOME for 8 years now. Every update I’m excited. For me, GNOME 46 with VRR and 46.1 with explicit sync was by far the most exciting period.
I also started using KDE for the first time with the launch of Plasma 6, on my other machine. And I gotta say both are amazing in their own rights. I love Linux! We should band together instead of fighting with each other. The real enemy is Windows, never forget.
@@WaylandGaming 👏
Windows is your enemy because you want Windows to be you enemy. Btw: Some *BSD user think Linux is the enemy. For me, stupid idelogical wars are the enemy.
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585 ikr, commenting on my MacBook with macOS 15. I kind of appreciate what each and every OS has to offer. I use Windows 7, Windows 11, Fedora 40, and macOS 15 all the time. And FreeBSD is amazing too! I think people should just use what they like and not utilize products to spite companies. Rather, people should pick platforms for what they actually do better. For instance, I pick Fedora over Win11 for university because I like the extra window management features that simply do not exist natively on Windows. But I also find myself picking up Windows, because of the awesome audio quality and superior NVIDIA support (NVIDIA 560 did fix a lot of issues on Fedora though). Games went from running at 2 fps under lInux to around 90 fps. Not as good as windows, but its getting there. Here's to hoping they bring the open kernel modules to user space. That is what really needs to happen to get feature parity between Windows and Linux for team green people.
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585 unlike Linux, the COMPANY behind Windows is all about data collection, whereas YOU become the product. Yes, Windows IS the enemy to privacy concerned people.
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585oh yeah, I guess you're right, just handwave all critique for windows as "stupid ideological wars" or "wanting windows to be the enemy", rather than understanding that it's terrible on the metrics that matter the most, like privacy and ownership.
I wish kde has the same variety and quality of online account integrations as gnome
Yeah, they should definitely improve that
Nothing is perfect, that's why we have multiple choices
@@ahmede92 Even so, it's good to request these things, just in case they decide to implement them in the future
@@Felipe-rn1gf I mean, Gnome’s focus now is on being a simple to use yet feature-full for business and workers, while KDE feels like it’s targeting the community more instead of that, there’s also stuff like optimization, which I felt missing when I installed KDE with Plasma taking a rough 20% usage on my cpu (Core i5 7th gen), but I never had this in Gnome which felt much more optimized and focused on stability and optimization unlike KDE
Improved fractional scaling is the only thing i really care… having a framework laptop i really need this
I very much agree. It's more or less the main reason why I don't daily drive GNOME. But combined with several other things that also make it so hard to use.
After KDE Plasma 6 came out I have decided to finally start using that, and I don't regret it. Coming from Xfce though. All on Arch btw.
Same
If you like gnome its a great improvement. If you dont, well it doesnt matter.
Yep
It doesn't mutter.
Not exactly true. Because Linux is all about sharing, improvements and innovations in one desktop environment may be used in another environment. So improvements in gnome may show up in other desktop environments, especially the one that you use. Remember, a rising tide lifts all boats.
Not true, I’m actually interested in using it sense you can do focus on hover
The blur issue is because fractional scaling works by rendering at the next integer scale (200%) and then downsizing (150%) with a shader. This is because GTK internally only supports rendering at whole integer scales.
It's a legacy issue because people back in the day 30-40 years ago weren't able to predict that we would one day want fractional scaling. Back then even integer scaling required lots of CPU. So scale was represented as an integer. And then it stuck around as a core fact of the APIs, which nobody had the courage to mess with.
I heard that GTK5 will have true fractional scaling.
@@MyAmazingUsername Thr blurriness that people are talking about here is an artifact of the way GNOME handled XWayland apps. Native Wayland has been tack-sharp with fractional scaling for a few releases now, even if not as good as it could be.
MacOS does the same. They also have an old GUI that doesn't support fractional scaling. On that, for now, windows wins everyone.
But yeah, as said above, now it was more an XWayland issue. Normal rendering is acceptable.
1:55 The Apply button covering the X button is… a choice.
"you have to apply the changes or you're not leaving!"
Hah, I didn't even notice that so far.
Tbh, I don't think that this matters at all, since those "unsaved settings" pop ups on other Desktops are also quite annoying
What if I want to dismiss the changes?@@MichaelNROH
@@shApYT Left side, you can cancel them
@@MichaelNROH I didn't even notice it suddenly appeared in the video.
I hope really hope that electron flatpak apps start using Wayland as default and not Xwayland which makes everything blurry on Fractional scailing. That is like my biggest issue on Wayland right now.
The migration period is the worst, yeah
Issues I am aware of with electron and Xwayland were fixed recently with the introduction of explicit sync on nvidia, i don't have any issues since
GO GNOME!!!!!
Ubuntu Cinnamon runs off Gnome so far I am liking Steam gaming on it with proton and Cyberpunk 2077 downloaded faster than on Windows Microsoft is failing badly guys and turning into dystopian future based technology we were warned in the movies about this now it's being forced down our throats in real life.
I think Gnome is in a great spot at the moment. They have a great app ecosystem rapidly expanding(seriously, it’s every day I see a new app being teased). Gnome team are really using that STF money to get features added.
The accent colors look gorgeous(tad limited imo, would love to see some more colors or a color picker added in the future). I honestly can’t decide which DE to install anymore. KDE and Gnome are killing it right now.
They are both on a good way in their own ways, yes.
Though I insalled KDE DE to my Fedora install, the jump was jarring. I could see how KDE's windows, scrollbars and taskbar icons were not as polished and were taking a lot of space.
Changing from 150% to 120% window scaling and restarting helped, but KDE really needs a cleanup of their padding and icon sizes
triple.. uh.. buttering.
pushed to 48 iirc
more butter equals more better
I hope that it will finally remember the layout of multiple monitors! Gnome 46 always reverts them, their position, to each other!
It should according to the changelog. Need to test it on actual hardware once proper production distros ship it
YES, the accent colors are huge!
Gnome + Aeon is all i need 💚
1:04 correction, with gnome it can always be removed down the line!
I use Ubuntu 24.04 with the previous Gnome version and if I change the accent color of the OS, it also changes the color folders.
BTW thx for the update ;)
Ubuntu uses their own theme which is why it works. Technically the same can be achieved on native Gnome when changing it, but it should be a thing in libadwaita in my opinion.
@MichaelNROH i prefer the way ibuntu does it over default gnome to be honest
This video should have been uploaded at 60fps, to highlight the animation quality of menus, windows, buttons, etc (I still liked the video for better reach; don't worry)
The current problem is, that I'm hardware limited by my camera which can't to 4k or 1440p 60fps. Having a mixed video can look weird and some editing templates don't work right this way.
@@MichaelNROHno it doesn't. Record video at 1080p30 or 60 and desktop at 1080p60. Export at 4k60 for higher bitrate. No one will notice the lower source pixels as I assume most are watching on their phones anyway where FPS and compression artefacts are much more noticeable than more pixels.
Why still no blurr my shell background? Available in 2077?
I was one of the people who did a little bit of testing on the xwayland fractional scaling thing! Very cool to see it get into stable thanks to the work of a lot of people MUCH SMARTER THAN I AM
Looks better. I still have some Wayland troubles with gnome so I went back to KDE. Something I thought I’d never say considering how far ahead gnome was with Wayland a few years ago
I planned on more conservatively applying updates, but I am probably gonna upgrade pretty soon with these usability updates.
Both Gnome and KDE are great and I'd like to daily drive them, but I'm shackled to window managers as they are the only ones that provided screen independent workspaces.
I still wonder why this hasn't been made the default in Gnome yet. Especially Gnome, with it's workspaces feels like a great fit. There is an open issue somewhere which tracks this feature, though given that workspaces is a core feature of Gnome, it's kinda hard to adjust it seems.
I'm pretty sure it's something that will be added eventually
Longtime i3 user here. Would never want to go back to a full blown desktop. Maybe I will try another tiling window manager here and there.
I've always been a KDE Plasma kind of guy, but even some of these changes in GNOME have gotten my attention a bit. That lock screen was actually pretty sweet looking, to be honest. Maybe someday I'll give GNOME a real try again, but as of now, I still feel much more at home with KDE. But this is just one of the many reasons why I love Linux. You have almost endless amount of possibilities available to you, rather than just a default desktop environment from companies like Apple or Microsoft, where you're stuck with their defaults with maybe the ability to customize things at a minimum.
Would love to see how GNOME improves by the time Ubuntu 26.04 is out!
🤩 right
very excited for this release
Они точно выдумают что-то, чтоб заменить трей...
Версии к 70 полагаю.
Can't wait for openSUSE to drop this just days (or even hours) after the official release. They are always the quickest when it comes to new Gnome Versions.
Have a look at the Cinnamenu applet on Cinnamon desktop. Hard to beat....
Haven't heard of it before but it looks awesome
I'm just now getting the hang of GNOME 46 as a new user with extensions and theming. Guess I'll wait until everything gets updated on the user side. I do like what I saw.
in 4-5 years im absolutely certain that gnome will surpass every other linux desktop environment (and maybe even macOS' aqua)
I am very uncertain about that actually. The desktop looks really beautiful and smooth, but I see a lot of tunnel vision keep holding things back, mostly on the practical side.
Forcing client side decorations and adwaita style on everything, without considering any integration with anywhere else, other desktops with different style and theming. And not giving the first priority to the most important things, such as fixing fractional scaling or making customizing keyboard shortcuts very easy.
Like others say, those who develop a desktop environment should really consider actually using it themselves.
KDE is so much further in all this regard.
Also, new GTK version uses Vulkan by default as the GSK renderer. 👌👌👌
Great video, thank you!
One of the main feature that you can't use GTK4 theme anymore because of libadwaita... it's a pice of gold.. :3
I've been waiting so much for this release 😍
I like kde too, but gnome is just the best DE on linux IMO.
2:40 Nautilus is terrible. Sometimes when it crashes it kills every single window open. It is just bad.
every time i try to copy file from HDD to USB, Nautilus froze,
that's why i installing thunar on every system before i start working
@@NugentFan Nemo rocks too
@@pai64 yes i have very good experience with nemo, but because its have dependence to cinnamon most of the time you cant install it on other DEs
@@NugentFan why couldn't you install cinnamon dependency? it doesn't install all of the cinnamon DE
@@NugentFan will look into it. If I have to pull up the terminal to copy anything bigger than 30 mb into an SSH server what is the point of using a file manager at all? Also, does it spawn child processes instead of separate processes with one as a parent? Because wtf does it crash every window when only one crashes? Gnome never fails to disappoint.
it look really clean but still for me KDE is better
Feature wise it definitely is
Gnome is very sleek and beautiful. but is not very customizable. so many distros ship it with extensions installed by default. I am used to windows workflow so plasma is good for me.
Gnome is fantastic! #1
Shout out to all of you who persevere with Linux
Is fractional scaling fixed for electron apps like Discord and vscode on Wayland? Please let me know!
It should be. It's kind of difficult to test, since it was just recently merged and the Fedora Beta which has fractional scaling enabled is a bit behind with packages.
Gnome is the only desktop environment that looks as good as macOS.
Which is weird, because I don't really like MacOS. The desktop is fine, but the menu looks so ... odd in my opinion.
@@MichaelNROH I have never tried MacOS, I am saying from youtube videos I have seen about it.
Michael, when you make a video on the next Fedora release, please keep a part where u show the things that laptop users can modify. E.g., I got to know from one of your videos that some non free codes were missing resulting in higher battery consumption on video streaming.
I tried to make some changes but your videos are very easy to understand, for a total newbie without any IT fundamentals.
When adaptive HDR fully comes to Linux I will already be an old dying great grandfather.
I have given up on Gnome due to this reason, KDE Plasma is the only way to go.
I'm really disappointed on them.
Amazing release. Congrats Gnome ❤
fox is causing trouble again 😂😂😂 outside that looks good cant wait to see more and maybe do a test on external arch instalation the background apps interaction can be fixed with extension
I used to be using KDE but after gnome 45 I will never look back 😂😂😂
Cosmic DE should be the way. Is written in rust and should be fast. I have problems with linux all the time with themes and etc. hope cosmic de will be good
Tbh the only thing GNOME is rlly good for is laptops
Why?
@@dasistdiewahrheit9585 as someone who's using it on a laptop it feels like it was purpose made for a laptop, with how the touchpad gestures work and stuff
then again it's my opinion
Why is Gnome team determined to make everyone stop using their DE.
Definitely one of the bigger releases, awesome job by the GNOME Team! Also great video :)
I would totally use gnome but it's just so hard to use vs plasma which makes me sad because I do actually really enjoy it's simplicity
Can't wait for GNOME 53 to finally reach a somewhat usable state
I disagree. PICK AROUND YOUR ROOT DIR!! The beauty of Linux is ownership and exploration. Become the master of your ship. This should be the ethos of every Linux user, always.
It's all about usability really. One of the reasons on why I personally like Gnome is, that it is simple by default, yet powerful if need be.
If I constantly access the root directory, I can bookmark it or enable the partition for display in the sidebar with gnome-disks (This could be enabled by default though)
Nah, if you’re going to pick around root, you’re better off using a terminal.
I really like GNOME and as such plan on updating to GNOME 47 when I can... which is probably in about 2 years' time because I am using Ubuntu LTS. I reallly really want to go back to Fedora but it seems to just not work with my laptop's poopoo Nvidia MX230 GPU. It is actually completely dysfunctional for me on my machine for some reason. So for now, GNOME 46 and Ubuntu it is.
Hi. I became a member of your channel. Where's the Discord link? It's not in the perks list. Thanks.
It's in the video or channel description. It would be a good idea to add it their as well though.
Thanks
@@MichaelNROH Got it. Thx. Keep on making great content! 🙂
Wow, KDE apps look miles behind now. I hope KDE catches up quickly.
For all of the hate that libadwaita seems to get, it certainly provides a great, consistent app experience.
Usin' it on Ubuntu 24.10, feels great!
The best gnome 🎉
Es bleibt spannend. Gnome entwickelt sich langsam weiter, sehr langsam. ;-)
gnome is barebones. not what i call a typical linux experience. it's even worse than windows in terms of out of the box options.
Ubuntu version of gnome is way more polished. I used fedora 40 gnome for a while, I was so disappointed with it that I had to switch back to fedora KDE
Gnome taskbar 200% is killer on my large screens.
i just switched to linux and was using gnome, a lot of the road bumps i had found so far are fixed in this release. thanks for the breakdown.
you still can't fix the scroll speed on laptop's trackpads without poking with libinput. Everything is great, but apparently not simple usability.
A lot of poeple (me included have been waiting years for this simple fix.
good video 👍
well I am excited that linux is becoming great for casual users
Gnome devs are so damn stubborn
GNOME will always be the best
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I still prefer KDE plasma
Plasma is also awesome
This is probably not the right place to ask but I'll give it a shot anyways:
I'm still running Windows 11. I have a Steinberg Audio interface (UR44c) that I use with some VSTs (Win/Mac exclusive). There are no Linux drivers for the audio interface. Is it actually doable to get the interface running smoothly under Linux with the VSTs or should I stick to Windows for that?
It entirely depends on what you want to do. The interface itself might work, as it seems to have a USB Class compliance, but their software solutions probably won't. You would need to rely to different software
@@MichaelNROH Thanks for the quick response! On Windows I'm basically running Reaper, load in my piano VST and record music. Most VSTs are Win/Mac, but I heard there are some "yabridge" based solutions around that. But if the interface won't work at all in the first place then it wouldn't even be worth trying that endeavour. Thanks again and keep up that catchy outro phrase! Grüße
With gradience you can actually still theme libadwaita apps, at least the color theme. So theming should still work to an extend.
Gradience is dead
@@hlashflahflhsjfh I know, but I will use it until it does not work anymore. And right now it still works
@@somename5632Nah it doesn't work for GNOME 46. But yes it works for GNOME 45 and older.
Did this release fixes the libinput bug where the touchpad two-finger scrolling is way too sensitive under a fractionnal scale ?
can you now drag the contents of a zip out?
I think that the default way is that it automatically extracts the file. For opening a still compressed zip, you are gonna need a dedicated program, which needs to have this functionality
Garn47
Gnome just isn't my thing. I don't like the overly simplified Apple look at all. I much prefer KDE even though I seem to be in the minority, at least of people I've talked to.
I've tried KDE so many times but I always seem to run into odd bugs. And I also don't think it looks very nice. Since I also use MacOS, Gnome seems to be a little more up my alley. I do most important things in the terminal anyway.
It's just preferences in the end
But gnome has feet
I want to like kde but I just keep bouncing off it and going back to Gnome. I like the much simpler and cleaner interface, I like the app ecosystem. It looks pretty.
@@hlashflahflhsjfh did you ever try xfce-kwin or budge? they are even more simpler and cleaner
I'm waiting for it eagerly, when will it land on arch's repos 😭😭😭
Gnome 2 was the best ever. Everything after that just gets worse and worse.
Its hard to believe that Gnome is really an open source desktop env! I'd say its way more polished than windows (not macos yet tbh).
what about fractional scale, does they fix blur?
it was already frustrating that i had to go to other locations to access Root and NVMe partitions, that change basically makes Nautilus unusable for me, mainly because bookmarks don't always appear in file pickers. if thats fixed, i'll just have to add the bookmarks, which isnt as easy as it seems for folders you can't right click on (like root -_-)
seems i picked a good time to move to Plasma.
hi
Blur should be a default extension
bye
I'm actually going to buy a rog zephyrus g16 2024 laptop in a few months. i doubt if some of the features will work properly. so i think i'll wait until gnome 50. in the meantime as a gnome fan i'll have to use gnome on my old computer and windows on my new computer unfortunately. i hope you develop fast Linux community. I always like and support freedom, fluidity and the light of knowledge.
What about multiple workspaces management on multiple monitors 😢
I've heard or read about, that it is being discussed. Besides tiling window managers there doesn't seem to be any Desktop that supports this yet.
Best in what sense? It's the best DE for mallocing 2GB of RAM and it's the best for clogging the already half-clogged X client.
After watching your video I really want to install Gnome on my Laptop and especially on my Mac. Is gaming on Gnome the same with Steam as in Ubuntu?
Ubuntu actually uses Gnome with some adjustments
Cant wait for more broken themes and extensions
why my browsers fonts in linux distros looks blury only in browser please help
Joever for guhnome
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Gnome is made for tablets, maybe 2in1s, for everything else - KDE 🤩
What a silly remark.
i use kde before but now they only care about CoC and woke agenda...
Xfce is better choice if you don't care about wayland,
or use hyperland if you want wayland
@@benign4823 Not a remark - just experience.
As someone who struggled with KDE's bugfests countless times, you can't pay me enough to daily drive it again. It's up to people what they use, but Gnome just gives me much easier time, so I'm sticking with it for the long haul.
Works great on my PC
Oh boy, I can't wait for my extensions to break! :D
"great". more Windows into the Linux. An OS should not hide things like that, it is annoying and interferes with the user, imo.
Can you try 150% scaling and see if apps like Chrome, VSCode, work fine and not blurry.
I tried on Fedora 41 beta and it still looked blurry to me compared to KDE
It's not the blurry experience that it used to be, but I'm not sure if it's really quite there yet. Could be an XWayland, contrast or simply reloading the shell bug, but it doesn't seem as sharp as other elements.
It's quite the improvement however and scaling seems to be good enough for the Wayland transition now.
@@MichaelNROHThe blur is because fractional scaling works by rendering at the next integer scale (200%) and then downsizing (150%) with a shader. This is because GTK internally only supports rendering at whole integer scales.
I heard that GTK5 will have true fractional scaling.
@@MyAmazingUsername The new scaling should resolve that. To be honest, this is release candidate stuff and I'm not even sure if it has been pushed to Fedora yet.
The nautilus update is the worst GNOME update I've ever seen
gnome files You must add a create file This thing is provocative
By default it should be an option. The template folder exists for that purpose but no one knows that
It should be added by distributions by default in my opinion.
It has had "New File" for decades now. You just have to save a template give it an idea of what the file structure needs to be.
The biggest problem of GNOME is that they do not listen to their users. Apptray is still broken. It is not a design choice, it is broken. I am just waiting for Cosmic to get better to jump ship. If it takes a while I guess I will learn to use a TWM.
I am on Cinnamon right now but wondering about shifting to a distro with KDE or Gnome (Cosmic is still on Alpha so)... Which would be better in your experience?
Might as well jump ship to Sway now and get it over with. Cosmic is still a long ways out, especially with getting full screen apps and games working properly.
@@Azure_dragon0 distro hopping is just wast of time.. cinnamon is better than kde and gnome, if you want improvement you need to learn about tilling window managers, i recommand you to test garuda hyprland its not that hard
Well, Apptray is a choice since they didn't want it anymore. I have still no idea why they think that it's a good idea to minimize functionality and hide it away though
Gnome has always been a trailer park version of Apple
@@miguelanaya95658 GNOME is a better experience than apple every day of the week