I would carry with one in the chamber about 1/2 the time. Until the day where I went through a situation where I specifically told myself, I may have to pull it out and rack one in. Nothing happened but I will never carry with empty chamber again!
When I was Enlisted in the Army, we never were locked and loaded walking around base, which I thought was stupid. I guess their concern was ADs.. which I still saw and heard a lot about. That being said boils down to poor training.
JGSH13 Of course there are plenty of times you would get away with carrying with an empty chamber. The usual outcome of unsafe behavior is that nothing goes wrong. I don’t want to be ready to defend my family plenty of times, I want to be ready for every time. 👍
@@JGSH13 I'm not sure why you would say no round in the chamber is better than none... you're comparing the wrong things to one-another. If you're carrying, carry with one in the chamber.
I really don't give a **** how people carry their guns, not my problem. It becomes my problem when people feel the need to lecture me about how "unsafe" I am for carrying with a round in the chamber.
I carry with no bullet in the chamber, in fact, I don't even have a clip magazine with bullets in the gun. I had a custom kydex in the waste holster made so I can carry with the slide locked back. Just to be double safe it can't go off by itself.
Likewise, people that empty carry also don’t like when they are told they shouldnt carry if they dont carry one in the pipe. Carry preference is based on the user’s circumstances, environment, or type of job, or family situation. Don’t listen to hat anyone says, carry how you prefer. Chambered or empty. But nobody should say this is better than the other. You work in security and are frequently in bad areas, carry hot. You have a weapon mainly for home defense, have curious kids, and the most danger you are in is dropping a shopping cart on your foot at Home Depot, you probably don’t need to carry hot.
@@Sonnylintag If you're carrying a gun it needs to be hot. There is no exception. If you have curious children, the answer isn't to unload the gun the answer is to keep the gun on you and teach them.
One of the biggest reason I see people say for carrying empty is the concern of the bad guy getting a hold of their weapon. One guy was saying that as long as you are aware of you surroundings you don't need to worry about one in the chamber. Heck he even stated as a liability reason in case you missed read a threat. I just roll my eyes and think here is another guy who has no formal training. Do to my training for work by a former army ranger, I carry one in the chamber. The other factor everyone forgets is the effects of stress on fine motor skills. I have read stories about guys in ww2 would keep running the bolts, pulling the trigger until they ran out of ammo and didn't fire a single shot because the safety was still on. Pickets charge at Gettysburg, many union guns were found double charged with gun powder, two rounds in the barrel or just gun powder because they were scared by the rebel bayonet charge. In summary you don't want to have ton of steps to be able to fire the weapon in a high stress situation.
I only have use of one arm and do practice reloading and racking one-handed, but still wouldn't want to have to start that way, so I always have a loaded chamber before leaving the house for any reason
Had a Sudo Socialist intellectual co worker tell me that carrying a firearm in general was unsafe. Then when I shut him up with basic logic on how's that's not the case. He proceeded to tell me. "Just dont be one of those idiots that carry with one in the Chamber ,Cause that's unsafe." At this point I called him ignorant, and educated him yet again. He did not like being called ignorant. Said he was not. So I educated him on what Ignorant means. Also I asked him if he ever shot a gun before? He said no. Told him that's why you are ignorant. He knew nothing, yet he tried lecturing me on the matter like he knew what he was talking about.
Make sure to get video of you practicing your draw from the appendix position with a hot chamber. There's a big difference between concealed carry and open carry on your hip.
I carry 2 in the chamber. When I draw, I like to clear a double feed before I engage my targets. After I clear the double feed, I pick the extra round off the ground, so I have one extra round to save for the bad guys later.
I just bought my first hand gun and I only have military training from like ump-teen years ago and you explained me completely. I practice drawing but I’m terrified to purchase my gun and it go off on me with a loaded chamber. I believe everything you say is true and agree but until I become competent I feel the safest that way. So what should I do? Risk it and just keep practicing or keep taking those baby steps
people who think that gun location or chamber is relevant when you are getting robbed walking alone have probably never been robbed as well... You cant even touch the gun if you want to live
@@leodoingthings1706.... I will MOVE first AND THEN draw my gun. And no, you will not hit me. Most cops I know can barely hit a stationary paper target and they practice a little more than the average criminal/low-life. Believe me, 9 out of 10 times that punk trying to rob me WILL NOT shoot me. He may get a shot off but he won't be able to hit a moving target.
While I agree one in the chamber is better, I've been trying to approach this topic with an open mind. I practice both ways, and with an empty chamber, I rack as I draw/rotate. I just went out and shot two three round groups, firstly with a loaded chamber. 1.64, 1.79, 1.72. Then racking as integral to the draw - 1.74, 1.72, 1.61. They average out to about the same. It's how you practice, folks.
Anytime this subject comes up, I tell them to go and watch as much video footage of civilian defense shootings (any shootings really.) as they can get their hands on and make their own decision :)
More critical information brother. All the life saving info you share for nothing is outstanding. Thank you for helping anyone willing to learn a better way. Your an amazing teacher
I've been carrying a Glock 19 with an empty chamber for 10 years. A little .380 for a couple years before that. Mainly bc a pistol has always fit perfectly in my pants in the appendix position without a holster. Since I liked carrying without a holster I always figured it would be safer to carry without a round in the chamber. And I figured that having an unloaded gun is gonna be way better in most situations than not having a gun at all. Then a couple months ago a guy tried to rob the cashier at a gas station while I was in line, I had my hand ready to draw the whole time but he never pulled a weapon. And that day I realized real quick that my empty chamber could have kept me from saving the cashier or myself if something would have went south really fast. So Im finally getting used to a holster and carrying my Glock loaded. It's just not worth the time it costs you to have an empty chamber.
@@TacticalResponseCrew Yes sir. I've been shooting every Saturday for years at a little range I built, but I've never had any professional training. I'm definitely going to tho.
@@TacticalResponseCrew I'm a new subscriber to your channel James and I know this is a late response but you made some very good factual points in this video. you're a solid pro 2a patriot keep up the good work.
If you've ever seen videos of where a bad guy pulls a gun on a good guy and within arms length, I think people would know to carry with a loaded chamber. You won't have time to rack a round.
Isn't this a relatively new issue? I think it has more to do with people not feeling comfortable with striker-fired guns with no external safeties like Glocks. In which case, carry a gun with external safety and/or DA/SA, and train with that.
that's why my carry choice is a 1911. Sure the ammo capacity sucks, but I really like the safety design on the 1911. I don't feel unsafe carrying around a chambered 1911.
I can appreciate and understand your view on this, right up to the point where the "if you are going to do this, you shouldn't/why would you carry a gun at all" bit. I hear that a lot in videos on this topic, and while there is great debate on the helpfulness/safety of which way you carry, is there really a debate as to carrying on an empty chamber being far better than not carrying at all?
I agree. Loaded magazine empty chamber is better than no firearm at all. I just thought of this: but I guess it wouldn't matter if you carry a revolver. If the average gun fight is 3 seconds, that's going to leave you with 2 more rounds than you would need anyway. (humor)
It's a question of mindset and ability. If you aren't confident enough to carry with a loaded chamber then you aren't skilled enough to use that firearm effectively and don't have the mindset necessary to seek out knowledge and improve. If you have the skillset then you already have the confidence to carry a chambered round.
@@hunterkiller232134 Not always. For me it's an odds issue. The odds of ad/nd goes up literally just by carrying. When the odds of that are greater than that of the odds of needing to defend myself, I'd rather take the chance of that fraction of a second required to rack the slide causing me to die at the hands of someone than to live with having killed/injured an innocent. Like I was trying to say with the original comment... It's not a pissing contest. I've been carrying (and licensed) for over 30 years. I've trained constantly, and I'm 100% confident in my abilities, and I'm not ignorant enough to think I'll never make a mistake. I've also trained to compensate for the fraction of a second it takes to chamber a round.
@@kyledavis2305.... Carrying a gun with an empty chamber and thinking you'd have the time and/or ability to pull it out and rack the slide in a life & death situation is as silly as thinking that you can ride around in a car with no seat belt but you'd be able to put it on right before an accident. Also, you said you have training but I doubt that. And if you DO have some type of training then it certainly isn't Force-On-Force training. Because if you did then you'd know that somebody can be on top of you beating the cr@p out of you before you can even get the gun out! Let alone rack the slide.
@@proguninc4080 🤔 Come now... Let's not be silly. I get that Gun Culture 2.0 runs around training for the "complete stranger to me jumps out of the woodwork for absolutely no reason other than to kill/maim poor innocent me, where I had absolutely no reaction time other than to draw and shoot accurately" situation, but the chances of THAT happening are a miniscule fraction of all self-defense situations (and in a ratio compared to nd/ad that I'm willing to live with). The idea that the extra second it would take to chamber a round would make ALL SITUATIONS INDEFENSIBLE is ridiculous. That's like saying there's no need for situational awareness training, because it's going to happen to you regardless. 🙄 Again... It's not a pissing contest, it's a personal choice based on the situation, AND situational awareness. Do I need to have one in the chamber if I'm sitting in a 20th floor boardroom meeting, or in mall packed with children waiting to see Santa? And in those situations, is the person attacking out of nowhere going to be laser focused on me, to the point I should just throw my empty-chambered firearm away?🤔 Come on.🙄 I get it... Some people walk around feeling like the world is about to jump on them and beat their tight "tactical t-shirt" wearing, Paul Bunyon bearded, man bun, but life's not a video game. With situational awareness and avoidance training, the extra added second of trained muscle memory MIGHT be fatal in a rare instance, but again... In fewer or identical numbers as ad/nd injuring/killing an innocent... And people who carry on an empty chamber are aware of, and perfectly accepting of those odds.
I was just in Jerusalem last year, so let's address what the Israeli carry condition situation actually looks like, so we can dismiss it for civilian carry. What you see are groups of 12 to 20 young men and women in uniform, walking around a popular tourist area carrying an M4 as follows: loaded magazine, red plastic chamber flag held down in am empty chamber by a closed bolt, elastic held under tension connecting the chamber flag to the forward assist. If you pull the charge handle, the chamber flag goes flying out because of the elastic, and a round chambers. All of the other folks in your group can immediately ascertain the condition of your weapon at a glance. If trouble starts, you have a dozen other folks all chambering a round, and you hope that one of the faster ones starts firing while some of your friends are still alive to eventually start firing back. This is great for keeping negligent discharges in tourist areas to a minimum, and allows more reaction time if a weapon is taken from one of your friends. Now unless you also always travel with a dozen friends, all constantly ready to react and chamber a round and help you out, you are probably not in a comparable situation to these young Israelis. Perhaps your solution should be tailored to fit your situation. Obviously it is your choice, but be aware of the reasons behind the empty chambers in Israel.
thats cool but thats not what hes saying at all ..........he saying personally keep a round chambered so your ready to shoot and dont find yourself cocking a gun as you get shot .........how can you not understand this?
@@fenwickc2274 Are you sure you are responding to the right comment? Just checking. Because I clearly backed up James' Israeli comment with facts that agree with his conclusion. The Israelis have 20 other guys to back them up, you don't, so carry a round chambered. Easy.
I just recently started carrying one in the chamber. This year. I feel fine doing it. Wish I’d done it sooner when ever second matters. But my question is would you really tell someone to not carry a gun at all if they really don’t feel Comfortable carrying that way?
This channel is for people who want to learn about gunfigting. No reason to coddle people who don’t have it in them to hear what they need to versus what they want to.
I bet y’all keep your finger off the trigger till you’re ready to fire. Why? Is that a waste of precious time too? Why don’t we all walk around all day with our guns drawn and fingers on the trigger and ready for action? Look, odds are you’ll never need it so carry how you feel comfortable. Truth is, statistically you won’t need over three rounds and most people will never train enough to overcome the plethora of hang ups that occur with semi- autos. I say revolver all day every day, Unless you’re a cop, a soldier, or society breaks down and you need high capacity.
I hate the Israeli excuse. The reason they do that is because the vast majority of their forces do not engage in combat and are more along a policing role, as well as the fact of conscription. It's the lowest common denominator to train a large amount of people, we have that problem here in the States as well with many LE agencies who need people on the streets, not efficient marksmen (NY Trigger). But hey! If you think that the best thing for you is to be the lowest common denominator conscript, that's your life buddy. But don't try to convince others that it's the correct course of action... "Statistically you won't need more than 5 shots, get a revolver!" "Night sights? You won't even see them!"
Too many people who carry with an empty chamber learn that when "go time" comes, they have the entire rest of their lives to try to get their gun into the fight. Watch as many Active Self Protection videos as possible on TH-cam, and you'll learn that gunfights seldom go down like you, or anyone else, expects. You want every possible advantage. Get yourself a modern gun (drop safe) with a secure, high quality holster, and train with them as much as you can.
I get the point, but I was trained that way. Now I should get retrained, to change habits in a proper way, rather than self teach. The context in which I was trained to present from condition 3 against the timer assumed that, since everybody had to do it that way in the exercise, it was ok.
@@johnw3736 On my birthday everything gets new batteries and ammo. The chambered round always gets used for training. It never goes back in the magazine. Sights, flashlights and smoke detectors.
Well said James in my opinion a gun without One in the Chamber is unloaded gun and that one in make my 18 round a 19 rounder this could save your life or cost you your life cocked locked and ready to rock the only way to go the bad guys certainly going to have one in the chamber why in the hell would you put yourself into a disadvantage situation just my opinion may beat me to the draw but you can bet your ass there's going to be one in the chamber great video should be common sense but I guess it is what it is
I'm on a security team, and I don't believe in carrying an unloaded pistol. I would rather carry a bat in that case . If you do carry your firearm in a loaded condition, which you should, make damn sure you have a concealed carry holster that's made for YOUR weapon and has full trigger guard coverage. The last thing you need to be worrying about is why you just torched one down your leg when your undressing getting ready for bed.
OK folks everyone has to train to be Johnny Ringo. Dont forget the timer...get your "draw" down to sub 1 second....don't forget to shoot first and analyze the situation later..LOL. If anyone has themselves in a situation where a criminal is drawing a gun on you at close range you have failed your first mission. You allowed yourself to get into that situation. If an armed criminal (s) walks into the diner you are sitting down eating at demanding money from everyone and he (they) have weapons pointed at you.....your "fastest gun in the west" mentality will get you shot. And thats how reality works folks. No one is going to be standing near you and say "draw". If you don't sharpen your wits, and think 'my appendix carry fast draw will save the day' you are delusional. Never draw on a drawn weapon. Its time to think. I believe CCW holders who adopt this quick and the dead mentality will end up in prison more for unjustified shootings than actually save themselves.
@Dcm193 He's also not taking into account that the bad guy might have shot him anyway because he didn't want witnesses. Might as well draw and shoot. At least you go down fighting.
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The only time I carry with an empty chamber is when I run out of ammo
that is the perfect answer haha
Lucky husband
Or if it's an old school revolver.
I would carry with one in the chamber about 1/2 the time. Until the day where I went through a situation where I specifically told myself, I may have to pull it out and rack one in. Nothing happened but I will never carry with empty chamber again!
I feel like if your chamber is empty your just transporting a firearm on your person.
I feel like you just think you're proficient with a firearm.
When I was Enlisted in the Army, we never were locked and loaded walking around base, which I thought was stupid. I guess their concern was ADs.. which I still saw and heard a lot about. That being said boils down to poor training.
And THAT come from poor LEADERSHIP!
James Yeager I’ve learned so much from watching and listening to you through the years! Thank you for all you do brother
If you think you have time to put a round in the chamber your telling me you have time to put your seat belt on before you get in an accident!!
JGSH13 - But we do not get to PICK.
JGSH13 chance favors the prepared
JGSH13 Of course there are plenty of times you would get away with carrying with an empty chamber. The usual outcome of unsafe behavior is that nothing goes wrong.
I don’t want to be ready to defend my family plenty of times, I want to be ready for every time. 👍
lol it is more like saying you have time to slap it on before an imminent collision.
@@JGSH13 I'm not sure why you would say no round in the chamber is better than none... you're comparing the wrong things to one-another. If you're carrying, carry with one in the chamber.
I really don't give a **** how people carry their guns, not my problem.
It becomes my problem when people feel the need to lecture me about how "unsafe" I am for carrying with a round in the chamber.
I carry with no bullet in the chamber, in fact, I don't even have a clip magazine with bullets in the gun. I had a custom kydex in the waste holster made so I can carry with the slide locked back. Just to be double safe it can't go off by itself.
Well just hope they never pulled their gun on you cuz you'll off them
Likewise, people that empty carry also don’t like when they are told they shouldnt carry if they dont carry one in the pipe. Carry preference is based on the user’s circumstances, environment, or type of job, or family situation. Don’t listen to hat anyone says, carry how you prefer. Chambered or empty. But nobody should say this is better than the other. You work in security and are frequently in bad areas, carry hot. You have a weapon mainly for home defense, have curious kids, and the most danger you are in is dropping a shopping cart on your foot at Home Depot, you probably don’t need to carry hot.
@@Sonnylintag If you're carrying a gun it needs to be hot. There is no exception. If you have curious children, the answer isn't to unload the gun the answer is to keep the gun on you and teach them.
@@Sonnylintag no. if you carry empty chamber you shouldn’t be carrying. you’re asking to get yourself killed.
One of the biggest reason I see people say for carrying empty is the concern of the bad guy getting a hold of their weapon. One guy was saying that as long as you are aware of you surroundings you don't need to worry about one in the chamber. Heck he even stated as a liability reason in case you missed read a threat. I just roll my eyes and think here is another guy who has no formal training. Do to my training for work by a former army ranger, I carry one in the chamber. The other factor everyone forgets is the effects of stress on fine motor skills. I have read stories about guys in ww2 would keep running the bolts, pulling the trigger until they ran out of ammo and didn't fire a single shot because the safety was still on. Pickets charge at Gettysburg, many union guns were found double charged with gun powder, two rounds in the barrel or just gun powder because they were scared by the rebel bayonet charge. In summary you don't want to have ton of steps to be able to fire the weapon in a high stress situation.
Thousands of people carry loaded everyday and you never hear about the gun just going off I don't see why people think it's gonna happen
I only have use of one arm and do practice reloading and racking one-handed, but still wouldn't want to have to start that way, so I always have a loaded chamber before leaving the house for any reason
Had a Sudo Socialist intellectual co worker tell me that carrying a firearm in general was unsafe.
Then when I shut him up with basic logic on how's that's not the case.
He proceeded to tell me. "Just dont be one of those idiots that carry with one in the Chamber ,Cause that's unsafe."
At this point I called him ignorant, and educated him yet again.
He did not like being called ignorant. Said he was not. So I educated him on what Ignorant means.
Also I asked him if he ever shot a gun before? He said no. Told him that's why you are ignorant.
He knew nothing, yet he tried lecturing me on the matter like he knew what he was talking about.
Make sure to get video of you practicing your draw from the appendix position with a hot chamber. There's a big difference between concealed carry and open carry on your hip.
I carry 2 in the chamber. When I draw, I like to clear a double feed before I engage my targets. After I clear the double feed, I pick the extra round off the ground, so I have one extra round to save for the bad guys later.
ABSOLUTELY !! ALWAYS CHAMBERED ...
I just bought my first hand gun and I only have military training from like ump-teen years ago and you explained me completely. I practice drawing but I’m terrified to purchase my gun and it go off on me with a loaded chamber. I believe everything you say is true and agree but until I become competent I feel the safest that way. So what should I do? Risk it and just keep practicing or keep taking those baby steps
Get training.
People who carry with an empty chamber and think they'll have time to rack their slide have probably never even been in a serious street fight.
people who think that gun location or chamber is relevant when you are getting robbed walking alone have probably never been robbed as well... You cant even touch the gun if you want to live
@@leodoingthings1706.... Not true AT ALL.
@@proguninc4080 if i point a gun at you, will you try to oudraw me like in wild west or just give me your wallet?
@@leodoingthings1706.... I will MOVE first AND THEN draw my gun. And no, you will not hit me. Most cops I know can barely hit a stationary paper target and they practice a little more than the average criminal/low-life. Believe me, 9 out of 10 times that punk trying to rob me WILL NOT shoot me. He may get a shot off but he won't be able to hit a moving target.
@@leodoingthings1706 Go back to watching Fortnite videos loser you’re not competent enough to carry a gun and never will be. Pathetic beta male SMH…
I can't imagine carrying an empty chamber for defense. Thanks much, James.
While I agree one in the chamber is better, I've been trying to approach this topic with an open mind. I practice both ways, and with an empty chamber, I rack as I draw/rotate. I just went out and shot two three round groups, firstly with a loaded chamber. 1.64, 1.79, 1.72. Then racking as integral to the draw - 1.74, 1.72, 1.61. They average out to about the same.
It's how you practice, folks.
Get some training.
Anytime this subject comes up, I tell them to go and watch as much video footage of civilian defense shootings (any shootings really.) as they can get their hands on and make their own decision :)
More critical information brother. All the life saving info you share for nothing is outstanding. Thank you for helping anyone willing to learn a better way. Your an amazing teacher
More to come!
Training would open there eyes very fast i have 2 bother n laws that carry without a round chamber i keep pushing them to check you out
Great points. I'm not sure why anybody argues this.
I've been carrying a Glock 19 with an empty chamber for 10 years. A little .380 for a couple years before that. Mainly bc a pistol has always fit perfectly in my pants in the appendix position without a holster. Since I liked carrying without a holster I always figured it would be safer to carry without a round in the chamber. And I figured that having an unloaded gun is gonna be way better in most situations than not having a gun at all. Then a couple months ago a guy tried to rob the cashier at a gas station while I was in line, I had my hand ready to draw the whole time but he never pulled a weapon. And that day I realized real quick that my empty chamber could have kept me from saving the cashier or myself if something would have went south really fast. So Im finally getting used to a holster and carrying my Glock loaded. It's just not worth the time it costs you to have an empty chamber.
Get some TRAINING.
@@TacticalResponseCrew Yes sir. I've been shooting every Saturday for years at a little range I built, but I've never had any professional training. I'm definitely going to tho.
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Not to mention if you're in a situation where a surreptitious draw would be appropriate.
you have convinced me.........thanks
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@@TacticalResponseCrew I'm a new subscriber to your channel James and I know this is a late response but you made some very good factual points in this video. you're a solid pro 2a patriot keep up the good work.
I Always carry with loaded chamber.
My EDC doesn't know what an empty chamber even means !
Amen times ten!
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I just did
If you've ever seen videos of where a bad guy pulls a gun on a good guy and within arms length, I think people would know to carry with a loaded chamber. You won't have time to rack a round.
So much TRUTH
Isn't this a relatively new issue? I think it has more to do with people not feeling comfortable with striker-fired guns with no external safeties like Glocks. In which case, carry a gun with external safety and/or DA/SA, and train with that.
If you allow a person with basic hand to hand skills two seconds they could most likely ether take the firearm or they will have control of it.
An empty chamber is a paperweight
that's why my carry choice is a 1911. Sure the ammo capacity sucks, but I really like the safety design on the 1911. I don't feel unsafe carrying around a chambered 1911.
Man you need training badly.
@@TacticalResponseCrew True lol
Wow that's exactly what my buddy says when he carrys I'll have time to rack it
Your buddy is in for some enlightenment if he ever takes a force-on-force class.
What kind of rifle do you like?
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I can appreciate and understand your view on this, right up to the point where the "if you are going to do this, you shouldn't/why would you carry a gun at all" bit. I hear that a lot in videos on this topic, and while there is great debate on the helpfulness/safety of which way you carry, is there really a debate as to carrying on an empty chamber being far better than not carrying at all?
I agree. Loaded magazine empty chamber is better than no firearm at all.
I just thought of this: but I guess it wouldn't matter if you carry a revolver. If the average gun fight is 3 seconds, that's going to leave you with 2 more rounds than you would need anyway. (humor)
It's a question of mindset and ability. If you aren't confident enough to carry with a loaded chamber then you aren't skilled enough to use that firearm effectively and don't have the mindset necessary to seek out knowledge and improve. If you have the skillset then you already have the confidence to carry a chambered round.
@@hunterkiller232134 Not always. For me it's an odds issue. The odds of ad/nd goes up literally just by carrying. When the odds of that are greater than that of the odds of needing to defend myself, I'd rather take the chance of that fraction of a second required to rack the slide causing me to die at the hands of someone than to live with having killed/injured an innocent. Like I was trying to say with the original comment... It's not a pissing contest. I've been carrying (and licensed) for over 30 years. I've trained constantly, and I'm 100% confident in my abilities, and I'm not ignorant enough to think I'll never make a mistake. I've also trained to compensate for the fraction of a second it takes to chamber a round.
@@kyledavis2305.... Carrying a gun with an empty chamber and thinking you'd have the time and/or ability to pull it out and rack the slide in a life & death situation is as silly as thinking that you can ride around in a car with no seat belt but you'd be able to put it on right before an accident. Also, you said you have training but I doubt that. And if you DO have some type of training then it certainly isn't Force-On-Force training. Because if you did then you'd know that somebody can be on top of you beating the cr@p out of you before you can even get the gun out! Let alone rack the slide.
@@proguninc4080 🤔 Come now... Let's not be silly. I get that Gun Culture 2.0 runs around training for the "complete stranger to me jumps out of the woodwork for absolutely no reason other than to kill/maim poor innocent me, where I had absolutely no reaction time other than to draw and shoot accurately" situation, but the chances of THAT happening are a miniscule fraction of all self-defense situations (and in a ratio compared to nd/ad that I'm willing to live with). The idea that the extra second it would take to chamber a round would make ALL SITUATIONS INDEFENSIBLE is ridiculous. That's like saying there's no need for situational awareness training, because it's going to happen to you regardless. 🙄 Again... It's not a pissing contest, it's a personal choice based on the situation, AND situational awareness. Do I need to have one in the chamber if I'm sitting in a 20th floor boardroom meeting, or in mall packed with children waiting to see Santa? And in those situations, is the person attacking out of nowhere going to be laser focused on me, to the point I should just throw my empty-chambered firearm away?🤔 Come on.🙄 I get it... Some people walk around feeling like the world is about to jump on them and beat their tight "tactical t-shirt" wearing, Paul Bunyon bearded, man bun, but life's not a video game. With situational awareness and avoidance training, the extra added second of trained muscle memory MIGHT be fatal in a rare instance, but again... In fewer or identical numbers as ad/nd injuring/killing an innocent... And people who carry on an empty chamber are aware of, and perfectly accepting of those odds.
I was just in Jerusalem last year, so let's address what the Israeli carry condition situation actually looks like, so we can dismiss it for civilian carry. What you see are groups of 12 to 20 young men and women in uniform, walking around a popular tourist area carrying an M4 as follows: loaded magazine, red plastic chamber flag held down in am empty chamber by a closed bolt, elastic held under tension connecting the chamber flag to the forward assist. If you pull the charge handle, the chamber flag goes flying out because of the elastic, and a round chambers. All of the other folks in your group can immediately ascertain the condition of your weapon at a glance. If trouble starts, you have a dozen other folks all chambering a round, and you hope that one of the faster ones starts firing while some of your friends are still alive to eventually start firing back. This is great for keeping negligent discharges in tourist areas to a minimum, and allows more reaction time if a weapon is taken from one of your friends. Now unless you also always travel with a dozen friends, all constantly ready to react and chamber a round and help you out, you are probably not in a comparable situation to these young Israelis. Perhaps your solution should be tailored to fit your situation. Obviously it is your choice, but be aware of the reasons behind the empty chambers in Israel.
thats cool but thats not what hes saying at all ..........he saying personally keep a round chambered so your ready to shoot and dont find yourself cocking a gun as you get shot .........how can you not understand this?
@@fenwickc2274 Are you sure you are responding to the right comment? Just checking. Because I clearly backed up James' Israeli comment with facts that agree with his conclusion. The Israelis have 20 other guys to back them up, you don't, so carry a round chambered. Easy.
@I am Done So you prefer to carry with an empty chamber? I don't. Fair enough.
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Is not carrying one in the chamber better than not carrying at all?
The question is what is BEST.
James Yeager reminds me of the old question is a 9mm on you better than that 45 in the truck or at home on the dresser?
I just recently started carrying one in the chamber. This year. I feel fine doing it. Wish I’d done it sooner when ever second matters. But my question is would you really tell someone to not carry a gun at all if they really don’t feel Comfortable carrying that way?
This channel is for people who want to learn about gunfigting. No reason to coddle people who don’t have it in them to hear what they need to versus what they want to.
I bet y’all keep your finger off the trigger till you’re ready to fire. Why? Is that a waste of precious time too? Why don’t we all walk around all day with our guns drawn and fingers on the trigger and ready for action? Look, odds are you’ll never need it so carry how you feel comfortable. Truth is, statistically you won’t need over three rounds and most people will never train enough to overcome the plethora of hang ups that occur with semi- autos. I say revolver all day every day, Unless you’re a cop, a soldier, or society breaks down and you need high capacity.
I hate the Israeli excuse. The reason they do that is because the vast majority of their forces do not engage in combat and are more along a policing role, as well as the fact of conscription. It's the lowest common denominator to train a large amount of people, we have that problem here in the States as well with many LE agencies who need people on the streets, not efficient marksmen (NY Trigger).
But hey! If you think that the best thing for you is to be the lowest common denominator conscript, that's your life buddy. But don't try to convince others that it's the correct course of action...
"Statistically you won't need more than 5 shots, get a revolver!"
"Night sights? You won't even see them!"
If you don't have one in the chamber, it's just a fancy hammer.
It is suicidal.
Generally a bad idea.
I concur, well said! God Bless!
Too many people who carry with an empty chamber learn that when "go time" comes, they have the entire rest of their lives to try to get their gun into the fight.
Watch as many Active Self Protection videos as possible on TH-cam, and you'll learn that gunfights seldom go down like you, or anyone else, expects. You want every possible advantage. Get yourself a modern gun (drop safe) with a secure, high quality holster, and train with them as much as you can.
I get the point, but I was trained that way. Now I should get retrained, to change habits in a proper way, rather than self teach. The context in which I was trained to present from condition 3 against the timer assumed that, since everybody had to do it that way in the exercise, it was ok.
How long do you keep that round in the chamber?
Until you have to 🔫
I’ve heard to shoot and replace your carry ammo twice a year.
@@jakehyams8659 maybe give your opinion then?
@@johnw3736 On my birthday everything gets new batteries and ammo. The chambered round always gets used for training. It never goes back in the magazine.
Sights, flashlights and smoke detectors.
@@robpridemore4350 Thats not really necessary
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Well said James in my opinion a gun without One in the Chamber is unloaded gun and that one in make my 18 round a 19 rounder this could save your life or cost you your life cocked locked and ready to rock the only way to go the bad guys certainly going to have one in the chamber why in the hell would you put yourself into a disadvantage situation just my opinion may beat me to the draw but you can bet your ass there's going to be one in the chamber great video should be common sense but I guess it is what it is
I'm on a security team, and I don't believe in carrying an unloaded pistol. I would rather carry a bat in that case . If you do carry your firearm in a loaded condition, which you should, make damn sure you have a concealed carry holster that's made for YOUR weapon and has full trigger guard coverage. The last thing you need to be worrying about is why you just torched one down your leg when your undressing getting ready for bed.
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Gesundheit
"Lack of confidence, which comes from lack of competence." 👍 Yes sir, I couldn't agree more.
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OK folks everyone has to train to be Johnny Ringo. Dont forget the timer...get your "draw" down to sub 1 second....don't forget to shoot first and analyze the situation later..LOL. If anyone has themselves in a situation where a criminal is drawing a gun on you at close range you have failed your first mission. You allowed yourself to get into that situation. If an armed criminal (s) walks into the diner you are sitting down eating at demanding money from everyone and he (they) have weapons pointed at you.....your "fastest gun in the west" mentality will get you shot. And thats how reality works folks. No one is going to be standing near you and say "draw". If you don't sharpen your wits, and think 'my appendix carry fast draw will save the day' you are delusional. Never draw on a drawn weapon. Its time to think. I believe CCW holders who adopt this quick and the dead mentality will end up in prison more for unjustified shootings than actually save themselves.
Take some force on force training. But no you will plink occasionally and think you are properly equipped.
@Dcm193 He's also not taking into account that the bad guy might have shot him anyway because he didn't want witnesses. Might as well draw and shoot. At least you go down fighting.
How to have an accidental/negligent discharge: Step one, chamber a round.......
lol Best comment! You just exposed the huge pink elephant in the room.
@@John_Malloysay you are untrained
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I always carry one in the chamber.