The Secret to SCHD Success that No One is Talking About

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  • SCHD is the Schwab Dividend ETF that is extremely popular and has performed very well over the past 10 years - but it has a secret to its success that pretty much nobody ever talks about and I’m not sure they even know about it.
    In this episode of the Build Invest Live podcast we’re going to break down the secret to what makes SCHD different from other dividend ETFs, show you how a little bit of effort can get you a wealth of information that no one is paying attention to, and walk through a head to head comparison of SCHD with some of its peers.
    0:00 - SCHD has a secret that no one is talking about
    3:14 - How ETFs are constructed
    4:12 - How do I find this information?
    5:17 - SCHD Stock criteria
    9:48 - VIG stock criteria
    11:51 - VYM stock criteria
    13:07 - DGRO stock criteria
    15:16 - Why has SCHD underperformed?
    15:57 - Is SCHD still the King of Dividend ETFs?
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  • @mattderron
    @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +315

    What do you think? Is SCHD going to continue to outperform going forward or is it time to look somewhere else??

    • @charlielipthratt7291
      @charlielipthratt7291 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Nothing goes straight up forever. If someone is jumping ship because of the last year or two, maybe they don't know why they invested in it. Maybe they just followed the recommendation of a TH-cam video that said it was hot or the king. That decision making creates unrealistic expectations.
      After investing through 2000 and 2008 downturns, you gain perspective on chasing things.
      You explained it well. SCHD is following its strategy. It's worked well in the past. They just updated their stock mix in March and we'll see how it goes. It might take a while with the current economic situation we're in. Most of the stock market isn't flying high. The bigger stocks that are running up now don't need to worry about borrowing at these high interest rates. Value companies might take a while to really catch up.
      Now is probably a good time to keep buying more and dollar cost average into a lot of SCHD shares over the next 5 to 10 years. That being said, people should be buying growth too. Just not hand over fist at these higher values.
      Thanks for the great video.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You make a good point here - most people wouldn't be prepared for a relatively flat 5 or 10 year period. That would be rough. That's why understanding what we're invested in and why is so critical

    • @Dividendflywheel
      @Dividendflywheel ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Matt; investor psychology leads them to pile into specific stocks, mutual funds or ETFs “after” a period of superior performance.
      • In the case of SCHD it was a decade. Then these same investors dump their position as performance reverts to the mean.
      • This “chasing of performance” is very detrimental to longterm performance.
      • Any way, I don’t have a crystal ball to predict SCHD future performance. I do know it’s security selection criteria matches what I need for a portion of my total stock portfolio. Hence I own SCHD along with VYM, DGRO & PRDGX
      • I am new to your channel and will systematically binge all your videos.
      • I am curious if you have (or will) create videos on “reversion to the mean”. When John Bogle explained this concept it was an eye-opener for me
      • Thanks for great content

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're absolutely right about mean reversion. I will definitely put it on my list. I talked about it briefly in a stock analysis video about Verizon that will be out next week. Basically that it's underperformed for 30 years compared to the broader market, but it's probably a bit undervalued right now so if you're interested in a shorter term swing / mean reversion trade then there's probably something there. It's a good topic to talk about because everyone experiences it - buying the top and then selling the bottom because you're basing your decision on market performance only as opposed to strategy / fundamentals.

    • @jwa7378
      @jwa7378 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm outperforming the S&P500 on my own. I have some tech and some industrials. You literally just follow the big boys. ETFs are too passive for me.

  • @TheBassicBassist
    @TheBassicBassist ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Your realistic unexaggerated explanation of the cult favorite SCHD is refreshing. Hoping this video blows up for you.

    • @TheBassicBassist
      @TheBassicBassist ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I buy both SCHD and VIG. I just pretend like the top 25% that VIG cuts out are represented by SCHD. Thought about switching from VIG to DGRO but VIG has a higher dividend CAGR according to Seeking Alpha.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you I appreciate it. Also I never thought about that approach (25% VIG cut = SCHD) that's super interesting, love it!

  • @Baygulll
    @Baygulll 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I love your presentation style and the way you analyzed these different ETFs. Very straightforward and well thought out information. Great vid!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you!

  • @lecorb8825
    @lecorb8825 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Matt, great video, I appreciate your well considered comprehensive coverage of the content and presentation.

  • @Crockerfeller
    @Crockerfeller 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Really love your content! This video was super informative. Really enjoyed the review of the methodologies. Thank you for the effort your put into these vids!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's awesome, thank you!

  • @bruceanderson8179
    @bruceanderson8179 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had a fairly large exposure with SCHD. During my semi annual rebalancing the first week of July I was disappointed SCHD was lagging the S&P by a significant amount so I looked deeper into the ETF. Forty percent of SCHD was concentrated in ten companies which was a concentration too high for me. In addition, being an investor who favors dividend aristocrats when it comes to my individual stock portfolio, I already had exposure to 1/3 of SCHD's top ten holdings. I ended up liquidating all SCHD holdings and distributing them to SCHX (new position), DGRO (an existing position), SCHF (an existing but underweight postion) and rounded out some positions in individual stock holdings. I know I've sacrificed some dividends here but I prefer the broader diversification of the other ETFs and the growth opportunities specifically with SCHX and SCHF. The analysis provided is great in terms of teaching people how to delve into the construction parameters of ETFs. Hopefully for those investing in SCHD will see it turn around.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's awesome - understanding what companies we're concentrated in with these ETFs is so important IMO. It's too easy to just blindly invest in the "idea" and not really know what's underneath.

    • @bruceanderson8179
      @bruceanderson8179 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattderron Just for giggles I used a tool I saw in one of your videos to backtest SPY, SCHD, and DGRO with dividends reinvested. Each ETF was the only investment in one of 3 portfolios. I was surprised the difference in the growth of $10k between the 3 over the last 8 years was minimal as about $1k separated the highest and lowest performer. And, at one point, April 2023, the 3 ETFs were, separated by $100. Over the 8 years there are points of convergence and divergence but they all look to correlate closely to one another although it's been less evident in the last 12 months. Just thought I'd pass on this observation as I found it interesting.

  • @jayyoung4615
    @jayyoung4615 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great comments. My portfolio holds around 60% SCHD, 6% VBR (small cap value), 6% VOE (mid cap value), 10% SCHY (SCHD's International cousin utilizing the same quality screens but for international companies), and 20% IVV (S&P 500). As a portfolio, it generates around 3.1% current yield, .80 Beta, 9% dividend growth, and a nice sector diversification profile. I did a deep dive on DGRO at some point in the past and recognized, as you did, that it had much more significant overlap with IVV than it did with SCHD. I considered carving a bit of my IVV allocation out to allow for some small addition of DGRO thinking it would offer similar total returns but impact my total portfolio with a slight lift in dividend yield and a slight reduction in beta (portfolio volatility). I never did it though because it just seemed more complicated than beneficial. I like my 5 ETF portfolio. Enjoyed the video!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's awesome thank you! I love your portfolio breakdown!

  • @albertorbinati5511
    @albertorbinati5511 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for explaining this in such a thoughtful and clear way. 👍

  • @charlielipthratt7291
    @charlielipthratt7291 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    You did a great job here. This is the most well thought out discussion on SCHD and and great comparison with other "competitors." Thanks for making it.

  • @jdwilsun
    @jdwilsun 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for a great chat!

  • @markriley5931
    @markriley5931 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matt,
    Outstanding comparison and well-researched explanation of dividend funds. Very helpful as I rebalance my holdings in retirement. Many thanks.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I appreciate it. Glad it was helpful!

  • @MH-lg1iu
    @MH-lg1iu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent analysis. I am actually one of those people who have dug into the methodology. SCHD is a core holding of mine but it does need to be balanced. Either a growth ETF or just a regular SP500 might be sufficient.

  • @smollbutbig
    @smollbutbig ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is one of tue best detailed evaluation of ETFs i have ever listned to. Please keep on doing that. You dont know how much value it has to new investors. Thanks!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for that, I appreciate it!

  • @ncube2468
    @ncube2468 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely subscribed after this well thought out and easy to follow run down on SCHD. Much appreciated.

  • @kmoliere504
    @kmoliere504 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is by far the best methodology comparison video I've run across on popular dividend etfs. Thanks so much for posting this.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No worries. Thanks!

  • @JParty22
    @JParty22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Been loading up on SCHD this year. Love this ETF!

  • @timfetner8029
    @timfetner8029 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done Matt. SCHD is one of my dominant holdings right now and has been for a while. Outstanding analysis and explanation - keep up the great work.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! SCHD is awesome, have it as a decent part of my portfolio as well.

  • @ChosoDFK
    @ChosoDFK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude quality video and info! Thank you for your effort.
    Subscribed and Secret Subscribed

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

  • @hazeldavis3176
    @hazeldavis3176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this vid. I learned a lot and your vibe is so chill unlike a lot of finance bros on yt

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, I appreciate it!

  • @michaelswami
    @michaelswami ปีที่แล้ว +4

    100% agree with you. I own SCHD for precisely this reason. Also own it’s sister company, SCHY.

  • @Madcrzy44
    @Madcrzy44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredibly helpful and informative video! Thanks!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @WW-34
    @WW-34 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved your video. I’m going to subscribe.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @arigutman
    @arigutman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video and love to see investing kept as simple as investing into an SCHD or the alike...

  • @Fidelb33r
    @Fidelb33r ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well explained SIR
    Now only if somebody would be able to make an excelsheet of SCHD's methodology

  • @ZaneDevon
    @ZaneDevon ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great breakdown! This is top tier content. I'm snowballing my SCHD position exclusively with dividends from my total holdings. Very much looking forward to seeing it grow

  • @donjohnson4368
    @donjohnson4368 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this upload from London UK

  • @dreamquotes
    @dreamquotes ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love SCHD, I really think the way to go is to add the growth separately, like an XLK or individual stocks like AAPL and MSFT while keeping SCHD as the core holding

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is currently what I'm doing. Allows me to have a solid base of dividend growers and then research other stocks I'm interested in that may be in tech or other sectors. Or even just different dividend growers that aren't in SCHD or don't have a large weighting.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure that'll just be temporary

    • @rafiamirali9188
      @rafiamirali9188 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mattderron IDK man, we are heading to mean regression. SCHD is full of overvalued "consumer staple" stocks. Top 2 holdings are KO and PEP which are bloated af. I think SCHD performs better in downturns, like we saw in 22', but will hugely underperform in booms like 23'. If you don't need the extra income from higher yield, I think something like vti, voo, or even qqq is a way better long term hold. We shall see. I may be wrong.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think there’s a lot of truth in what you’re saying. My video for Wednesday is going to touch on the SCHD + tech combo and why it’s better than either one by themselves. But it’s basically because of the reasons you just mentioned

    • @Javalipapere
      @Javalipapere ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. That’s what we do is buy AAPL Msft Goog separately

  • @gaurav1987pal
    @gaurav1987pal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quality content for such a small channel. Keep going, and your channel will be huge one day!!!
    Now just to give my two cents about the topic: i like the fact that SCHD doesnt house MSFT and AAPL. I like my investments to perform a specific function in my portfolio, when i invest in a dividend growth ETF I want my dividend growth to match business performance, becoz returning capital to shareholders is a primary function of such ETF. I dont like companies growing bottom line 15% and growing dividend by just 10%. I plan to hold SCHD for life and it provides a good supplement for my growth stocks.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you I appreciate it! 100% agree with you on liking SCHD's makeup. My video for today actually talks about matching it with a growth / tech ETF if you want exposure to those companies.

  • @MsMotherWolf
    @MsMotherWolf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm two weeks later obviously, but my holdings in SCHD are doing fairly well. It's a good spread and bread basket of various stocks and I have enjoyed watching my dividends snowball with it. I haven't seen the videos of these other TH-camrs saying to dump it or not invest, I usually view those as having an agenda and ulterior motive and part of the go for their hype train asset that may or may not crash or be good.

  • @darren9895
    @darren9895 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great analysis Matt, the methodology is the most important criteria for selecting ETFs for sure. Love your channel, keep up the good work.
    Would you be able do a video on the DGRW wisdom tree index methodology?
    All other ETFs are pretty straightforward, however I find wisdom trees ones hard to understand in their PDF.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I will definitely put that on my list, hadn’t heard about that before

    • @darren9895
      @darren9895 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattderron Legend!

  • @oanhpham8780
    @oanhpham8780 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank for this video … help me a lot ❤❤❤❤

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No problem!

  • @supercruchynoodle
    @supercruchynoodle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Matt, new subscriber here, great insight to researching ETFs. Thank you for educating us. Do you think it’s wise to diversify in dividend ETFs like VIG or VYM or DGRO instead of just having SCHD as I’ve entered SCHD investing this year? (I’m a late bloomer to investing but earn decently and would like some that pay dividend, aside wide cap ETFs and VOO plus other IT focused ETFs) in other words is investing diversification in one ETF category advisable given these findings? Thank you !

  • @drjulienintartaglia
    @drjulienintartaglia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good content ❤ Thanks from Switzerland 😊

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

    • @drjulienintartaglia
      @drjulienintartaglia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattderron you got one new subscriber 😉

  • @jameszeng2666
    @jameszeng2666 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    SCHD is more of a substitute to bounds in my portfolio ... and it works well with QQQ(M) if you are in a 2-fund portfolio (or VOO if you want to do 3 funds)

  • @jamisonm5854
    @jamisonm5854 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have most of my portfolio in SCHD. It's a great fund with great selection criteria for dividend investors, offering a passive option. I have been a bit concerned this year with its underperformance compared to the dividend stock universe, and it seems that the reconstitution in March accelerated its underperformance. UPS was added and performed poorly since, and Abbvie was added just as it's entering an earnings outlook decline. Financials were also reduced, meaning it was exposed to the plunge in banks due to the banking crisis, and is less exposed now to the rebound. I feel these issues caused it a performance handicap that it missed out on, so in the future it will have to overperform others through another lucky reconstitution to catch up. So, my biggest issue with the fund is the reconstitution and it's timing, causing both an opportunity for lucky overperformance or unlucky underperformance. Overall, this gives the S&P 500 another edge (it has many).

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah reconstitution can be a challenge - ultimately though S&P's performance this year is based on a handful of big tech stocks, so I think SCHD should still do well long term. Companies that continually pay and grow their dividends above the rate of inflation should always do well IMO

    • @jamisonm5854
      @jamisonm5854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattderron Agreed. I'm thinking of trying to keep SCHD to no more than 50% of the portfolio for these reconstitution risks while diversifying with some broader dividend universe funds like VYM & DGRO and some individual picks. S&P does still scare me with it's very expensive tech concentration.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The only thing about big tech that I wonder is - and not to sound like a "this time it's different guy" - but even though they are overvalued and the biggest companies in the market already...they are ecosystems and monopolies with high margins, and a ton of cash. Valuing them like "normal" businesses doesn't work as well. I don't know, just a thought

    • @jamisonm5854
      @jamisonm5854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattderron That is true. I would never bet against them, that is for sure. There is some research, however, that points to value outperforming growth in the very long term, apparently because it is technically riskier (companies with lower PEs for a reason) so the risk premium needs to be higher. With growth like big tech, they fly great until something happens to change the growth calculus, then they can crash and burn like 2022. Could be more interest rate increases, regulation, etc. There were the nifty 50 in the 60s/70s, then again the growth of the dot com era, etc. Since 2009, it's all growth all the time again. For now.

  • @rayutwenty-four6753
    @rayutwenty-four6753 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's been a great buying opportunity this year. Love this ETF.

  • @johnmcquaid7524
    @johnmcquaid7524 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am here to learn about Visa; sticking around to learn about ETFs.
    Excellent detailed & understandable video.
    Thank-you!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I will likely do a Visa update after they announce earnings this afternoon

  • @TrailBlazer5280
    @TrailBlazer5280 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this great breakdown man, had never heard of SCHD until a couple days ago. Its so easy to just buy an etf but there are real differences behind the scenes in some of these and after seeing your presentation I really like SCHD, and DGRO in fact. But when seeing their performance is relatively similar I like the stronger criteria for SCHD and its larger dividend.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No worries! I did an update on SCHD and the other dividend ETFs as well that you might be interested in, talking about the difference in 2023 performance. It’s the “SCHD is underperforming in 2023. Here’s why” video

  • @mikedawson2105
    @mikedawson2105 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advice and excellent presentation.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @spoonwinnipeg2021
    @spoonwinnipeg2021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first video of yours that I've seen. I like your explanatory style. I wonder if you or one of your video watchers has an idea of a Canadian etf that uses a similar methodology to SCHD's.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I'm not familiar with a Canadian alternative, but maybe somebody in the comments will know!

  • @slmunney7760
    @slmunney7760 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great and informative video. Thanks much for posting.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I appreciate it!

  • @christophertamez7474
    @christophertamez7474 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing breakdown! I’m fairly new into my investing journey. Only about 6k invested with approx 2.5k in schd, but dollar cost averaging daily $15 ($71 avg cost per share)
    I’m no finance expert, and have taught myself what I do know strictly online. I’m 27 and wish I started investing even earlier. I can’t wait to see my SCHD dividends snowball into something that could hopefully sustain me.
    Excellent video! Subbed!
    (Side note - what are your thoughts on JEPI?)

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks - in terms of JEPI I think it’s really about what your goals and time horizon are. I’m not clear on the long term value of these covered call / options ETFs since they only have a short history. People get excited about the yield but my personal preference is to focus on long term price appreciation and dividends over needing an options strategy to be consistently good over a long period. Just my opinion though.

  • @JumpStartJim
    @JumpStartJim ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your breakdown in this video. Appreciate you comparing some of the other ETFs and discussing your take on them. You may have this video (I'm a brand new subscriber, so I have yet to look) but your variation on VGT vs. SCHG vs. whatever else you'd like to compare would be of interest too. Coincidentally was looking at a comparison on Seeking Alpha over 10 years and was surprised at what I saw. Your take on the "Growth ETF" would be appreciated in a similar breakdown. Thank You, Matt.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks I appreciate it. My video for tomorrow (which I'm hoping to get done today lol) is going to touch on the combination of VGT and SCHD. It won't directly compare the growth funds in terms of makeup, but just in terms of combined performance with SCHD.
      I will put a growth ETF comparison on the list though, that's a great idea. Thank you!

    • @JumpStartJim
      @JumpStartJim ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattderron Perfect. I'm personally comparing SCHD and VGT vs. SCHD and SCHG (with VOO as a balancing act)...as a guy with High-Risk Tolerance but very close to retirement age. (I'll never retire, I'm just Old! LOL) Thanks also for the Growth ETF comparison in the future.

  • @Propguypaul
    @Propguypaul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to your channel. Great advice. Well done. Ive been in SCHD for many years.

  • @McRuffin
    @McRuffin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A very well researched video with great info. You’ve earned a sub. Can’t wait to see more!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!

  • @justinvanbibber4603
    @justinvanbibber4603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thanks for your insight ❤

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I appreciate it!

  • @Sunshinebchh
    @Sunshinebchh ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video!!!!! Truly appreciate the breakdown

  • @sgtfish49
    @sgtfish49 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well constructed and objective. Thank you.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @hernanecomh
    @hernanecomh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    subscriber number 930! Awesome content, thanks.

  • @johnnygotshadow
    @johnnygotshadow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent work with this video. Thanks.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much appreciated!

  • @mhl6928
    @mhl6928 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My little bit of effort is that I found you😂 just subscribed, thanks for the info👍

  • @liptongtr
    @liptongtr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great breakdown, and you presented it in an interesting way. You deserve more subscribers

  • @imdoc7872
    @imdoc7872 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Thank you. I DCA every two weeks into schd and schg at 50% each in my taxable brokerage account. Best of both worlds. I buy VOO and schd into my retirement accounts in a 90/10 allocation respectively. I buy only schd using my earned credit card points in a taxable brokerage account that I have through my bank that I use as a savings account. Bottom line, I love schd.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Definitely a good combo

  • @Seoulsearch616
    @Seoulsearch616 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, thank you! 👍🏼

  • @Arken2249
    @Arken2249 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, Matt! Well said.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @tjthompson416
    @tjthompson416 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most informative videos I've seen in a long time. Thanks for sharing!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate it, thank you!

  • @wolfy7531
    @wolfy7531 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation. I believe that SCHD provides a balance to an index fund because the index funds are heavily relying on the big names you mentioned.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely, my video for tomorrow talks about this very thing

  • @bluesky5587
    @bluesky5587 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb analysis…..big ups

  • @Dametubes
    @Dametubes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the info. Good vid.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I appreciate it!

  • @Royals_Mindset
    @Royals_Mindset 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative video, 🤩 thanks...

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No worries!

  • @holywarrior8684
    @holywarrior8684 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much for the great analysis. These are my core ETFs: SCHD (50%), JEPI (20%), VNQ (15%) and SMH (15%). SMH is my ETF for growth (400%) with a YOC Dividend of approx. 2%.

    • @KevinLotusShard
      @KevinLotusShard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do 30% on just SCHD, the rest is VTI. Would this suffice for a new investor?

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      VTI and SCHD should do well over the long term (10+ years). As you keep learning you can always adjust later if you want to

  • @kennethprice4292
    @kennethprice4292 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree 100%👍 Thanks

  • @tessjones5987
    @tessjones5987 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was such ggod information. Thank you. I am 72 and a novice. Coming out of RE.

  • @barrysharer3401
    @barrysharer3401 ปีที่แล้ว

    High quality content. Thanks vey much!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I appreciate it!

  • @amitkhurana249
    @amitkhurana249 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great videeo matt, you have cleared many doubts in my mind today but i have one question in my mind right now..how much overlap between ETF’s is ok if you want to hold multiple ETF’s.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly I don’t think there is one answer to this. It really depends on what your goals are. For example, if you have 2 ETFs that overlap a lot but they are accomplishing slightly different things for you and you understand and know that, there’s not necessarily an issue with that. It’s mainly just knowing how they overlap so you know if you’re getting the coverage and/or diversification that you want. Hope that makes sense

  • @FELiPES101
    @FELiPES101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My etf holdings are 25% QQQ/ 75% SCHD by cost basis...I get the magic 7 exposure from qqq but I'm not super overweight in them, but I also get the dividend growth which is my investment style.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice! Awesome combo

  • @danpalmer1755
    @danpalmer1755 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the in depth research

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @williampaul8556
    @williampaul8556 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No worries!

  • @davebosworth1778
    @davebosworth1778 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would like to see comparison with SPYD. Underperforming SPY as is fully expected. Currently paying 4.6% if I recall correctly. I need to dig in to see if it's price difference is worth the yield.

  • @JNHEscapes
    @JNHEscapes ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good video and deep dive. 10% of my portfolio (roughly 300k) is in schd and has done quite well. I bought it when it dipped below $70. I chose it over the VYM mainly because of allocation. People typically don’t realize how allocations are so important with etf’s. I own more than a million of the voo so I already own appl and msft and would prefer a diversification like schd that actually does not have those two. Some etf’s like vcr or vug are just way overweight a few stocks. I watch allocation carefully. What I don’t understand about youtube is why so many people make videos about buying individual stocks. I would NEVER recommend the average investor buy individual stocks. These etf’s we’re discussing are perfect for 80% of the population. Even with my size portfolio I have very few individual stocks. I do not want to wake up one morning to a scandal, or better mouse trap taking out 10% of my portfolio. Most of my money is in voo, schd, vt and I did replace my bond etf’s with jepi for the income. That’s all anybody needs to stay wealthy.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Agree that for most people ETFs make the most sense. I do love individual stocks too though lol

    • @notnoternexto
      @notnoternexto ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As someone who works in this industry this is just my two cents, your allocation to VOO and VT are very much correlated, you might as well just own one of them and then diversify with an international etf, a factor like (quality or momentum) or size based etf like (small cap/mid cap ) instead if you haven't already.
      Also JEPI has grown in popularity but it has its flaws, in a sharp market decline like the Covid drop, JEPI will not only get crushed like the rest of the market but will take much longer to recover due to their covered call strategy leaving a lot of gains on the table. JEPI came to market strategically after the market dropped in 2020, the other thing with JEPI is that a lot of their income comes from the premium sold from calls and the volatility in stocks and option premiums have declined which will lead to a declining income. JEPI falls in the Alternative category so replacing bonds with it is not ideal. Bonds serve a purpose, which is to sell bonds to buy stocks or to withdraw for expenses during declining markets, ie: (covid crash, financial crisis). ETF's tracking the 1-3 yr treasury index would allow your portfolio to have lower beta (volatility) and serve as your bond allocation, and now yields are up so you are getting paid in comparison to years ago.

    • @JNHEscapes
      @JNHEscapes ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notnoternexto agree 100% my biggest problem seems to be between over-allocating to the voo and finding a suitable diversification addition. Vti, vt, voo and others all seem to be so close. What is your thought on having just two or three funds total? Schd, voo, maybe jepi even though it’s flawed it could be the “fixed income” portion. Just thinking out loud. At one time I was 75% in the voo, but that felt right and wrong at the same time ha! Thanks for the comments.

    • @cinamatics
      @cinamatics 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JNHEscapes Great advice! Curious because I own JEPI myself, what about it do you believe is "flawed"?

    • @JNHEscapes
      @JNHEscapes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cinamatics Not sure honestly. Could be like the xyld and qyld where capital depreciation occurs over the long term where the dividends do not cover the loss on the principal. However, everything I have read claims jepi is trying to make 6-8% a year consistently so as long as the principal moved a little in the up direction and we’re getting the dividend then great, but if you look at long term charts for xyld and qyld as examples the principal has done nothing but erode. That’s my concern.

  • @aristotleaquino3067
    @aristotleaquino3067 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you want less volatility and less growth then buy this(SCHD). If you want more growth but more volatility then by QQQ or VGT. Its pretty basic. The hard part is how you emotionally react when there is volatility (a significant drop in the market). If you freak out during drops then buy SCHD. If you lean in and buy more during drops then go with QQQ or VGT. Also if you are young put some in QQQ or VGT as you get older migrate more and more of your money to SCHD.

  • @twoking10
    @twoking10 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found Matt today. WELL RESEARCHED ! Good job. Too many people just chase the latest highest returns. 30% of the SP 500 is just 8 stocks. 6 of them don't even pay a dividend at all so clearly wouldn't be part of SCHD. Those 8 companies have done well this year, outperforming. However, historically the dividend payers and especially strong dividend growers outperform. 2023 has been an exception. The other reason I like dividends is because I don't want to have to guess about when to sell. I DON'T sell, (except sometimes only to buy some other dividend grower but I don't just get out). I am sticking with SCHD. Also have DGRO and VIG.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @technologyartist8917
    @technologyartist8917 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate your analyses. Could you provide some insights on ARES Capital (ARCC) or on Business Development Companies (BDCs) in general? Thank you.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I'll put it on my list. I've had requests for BDCs before, but I haven't had a chance to dig into it yet. I'll have to do something learning on it

    • @technologyartist8917
      @technologyartist8917 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am curious about the factors that might impact their dividend payout. From my understanding, they are obligated to distribute 90% of their earnings as dividends, which is why it has consistently remained in the range of 9-10%. What are the risk factors associated with this payout policy, and what key parameters should be monitored to assess its stability?@@mattderron

  • @byteme0000
    @byteme0000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There are plenty of ETFs that include companies like Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc. They're a dime a dozen. So, even if you're not primarily (or at all) a dividend stock investor, you can think of SCHD as an excellent value-based ETF. The rigorous process for determining which companies to allow in the ETF's list of holdings results in your owning a solid list of comparatively undervalued companies--they're typically companies that make great stuff that everyone needs, but they're not the exciting, flashy, high-flying tech companies (for example). And if you don't like some of the companies that comprise SCHD's holdings now--for example, I don't care for Verizon and Ford--rest assured that SCHD reconstitutes itself annually in early March. If some companies are not making the grade, they're out. Finally, most folks don't do the math, but there is a huge benefit to owning a pile of stocks that pay dividends that increase steadily every year; in that regard, SCHD is tough to beat.

  • @tvlookplay
    @tvlookplay ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video im currently 90/ 10 on schd and dgro. In my taxable account. Gonna stick with it for the long term. I watch these videos to help stay the course.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome, I actually love dividend payers in taxable accounts, it sounds bad but having an income stream building that you can use any time can be worth the extra tax hit depending on what your goals are

    • @Deadeye313
      @Deadeye313 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mattderronThat's why I've got SCHD in my taxable account instead of dumping more in my Roth. My Roth is up 15.5% this year but that money is locked till I'm 59.5.
      SCHD lets me put a little extra in the markets, but if I absolutely need that money, I can take it out for emergencies.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least with the Roth you can take out any contributions without penalty (just not earnings) - but I agree that there is something different about having a dividend income stream with no restrictions. I wish I would've done that more before I left my corporate job

  • @connormichelleotoole5774
    @connormichelleotoole5774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Why make it more complicated than it has to be? Just own SCHD and SCHG. Best of both worlds.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, definitely a great combo

  • @AnyangU
    @AnyangU ปีที่แล้ว

    Some good points. I think you probably need at least 3 kinds of funds, maybe four. Two different dividend funds, a technology fund and if you want an S&P fund but I am not sure you really need an S&P fund because your exposure to that small growth, non technology company is not going to be much until it is big enough to matter. The main point is to have the right mix of dividend income and growth.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point about non-tech small growth probably not being substantial. Another person in the comments mentioned the VGT and SCHD combo which I think is interesting

    • @AnyangU
      @AnyangU ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattderron I think that is the right mix. I like to mix SCHD with DGRO despite the overlap because both have good dividend growth but over the last few years one or the other seems to dominate on a yearly basis. If it is an off year for SCHD, it is a good year for DGRO and if it is an off year for DGRO, it is a good year for SCHD. But, that is me.

  • @peterswellnesschiropractic4068
    @peterswellnesschiropractic4068 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great break down!

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @derrickmartens3530
    @derrickmartens3530 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very enlightening. Thanks for the vid.

  • @Tristen501
    @Tristen501 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's hard to articulate how good of a video this was, but I believe it will age well with time, especially when the market turns against big tech and SCHD remains unscathed. I'm glad you shared this information and it'll definitely factor in to my future investments. Thank you.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I appreciate it!

    • @dongorman9395
      @dongorman9395 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of the best videos I have seen. I have put you in my little book of pay attention to this guy. Thank you.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dongorman9395 Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it!

  • @OneNationUnderGod.
    @OneNationUnderGod. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One thing that most dividend investors care more about than I do is the stock's performance. I have no plans to sell my shares because I will be passing my portfolio onto my 3 kids someday. So a dividend stock that is fairly stagnant value wise is not much of a concern for me. I even welcome a dropping share value on occasion for the opportunity to average down as if the shares are on sale.

  • @jmd1935
    @jmd1935 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job very informative! 😎👍🏻

  • @kylegregory8021
    @kylegregory8021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You get the sub sir. Appreciate the work.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks I appreciate it!

  • @MillsapsFan
    @MillsapsFan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like the video, very genuine.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that!

  • @realthatbrian
    @realthatbrian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SCHD + VOO at about an 80/20 ratio can be what scratches the itch for many investors who want dividends and some growth without being as volatile as QQQ.

  • @FromTh1sDayForward
    @FromTh1sDayForward 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You got a sub because you speak rationally without all of the frantic hand waving and hyperbole.

  • @guilhermeugino4280
    @guilhermeugino4280 ปีที่แล้ว

    great analysis

  • @k.howard5927
    @k.howard5927 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Excellent review! Very nice work.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you I appreciate it!

  • @siaosanna
    @siaosanna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to pair SCHD with a growth ETF like VUG. I miss out on some gains but i also feel somewhat hedged against a crash in overvalued stocks. Recently I sold all of my shares of VUG and put it into SCHD. I just don't see how growth can keep exploding at this rate, I feel like it has to be near peaked. Just my speculation though.

  • @InfinteWealthWorld
    @InfinteWealthWorld ปีที่แล้ว

    Very insightful Matt!

  • @timo4040
    @timo4040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @Metal_Stacking
    @Metal_Stacking ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Schd is underperforming the overvalued sp500 due to 5 companies pulling the whole sp500 to overvalued territory. When it all balances back out you will be happy you own schd imo...

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      100% agree

    • @Metal_Stacking
      @Metal_Stacking ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @mattderron I was reading in June that the sp500 without the 6 companies would be negative returns with dividends ytd. And if you owned the 6 companies you would be up 48% ytd.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup big tech has made all the returns this year

    • @Metal_Stacking
      @Metal_Stacking ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattderron we know what goes into a bubble eventually pops. Those big 6 will fall hard in any market downturn.

    • @brianmcg321
      @brianmcg321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s how indexes work

  • @tmtx7
    @tmtx7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very detail explanation. Thanks for the video. (I already own 148 shares of SCHD and you enlighten me more about it)

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome!

    • @tmtx7
      @tmtx7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattderron I started late in investing since I didn't know how. Only when I retire and have more time in researching, I start investing. My very first stock is STAG, I know it's REITs, but this is industrial REITs so I decided to take a chance on STAG. It pays $0.11 dividend per month but it's basically stable for now. The second one in my portfolio is SCHD and vey happy with it. So far right now my total portfolio is enough to pay my utilities. Not that much yet since I just started three months ago. Most of my stocks focused on monthly paying dividend ETFs. Thank you for your insight on how to look on stocks. Because we all know that not all stocks are created equal. Can you make a video of SPYI, TSLY & OARK? These three I'm eyeing on now.

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great, we all start on our own time, there's no one correct way to do it. If you're looking for monthly dividends (to match up with your bills) I did a video last week (or two) about how to get monthly dividends with a portfolio of dividend aristocrats (not monthly dividend payers) in case you want some alternatives of how to do it with ones that pay quarterly. Definitely check it out if you're interested.

  • @johnpalcon7570
    @johnpalcon7570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When i saw the trend of peopel finding alternatives to SCHD, i knew thats when i wanna start buying into it🔥

  • @DiegoLopez-ii2om
    @DiegoLopez-ii2om 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid video. So I obv hold schd. What do you think of buying a different dividend etf for my wife’s Roth to diversify incase schd doesn’t do what I want it too

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It just depends on what your goals are - I would make sure what other dividend ETF you pick doesn't have a lot of overlap with SCHD if that's what you're looking for. I do something similar though - my wife's retirement accounts are straight S&P 500 and nothing else. For mine and our other holdings we invest in individual stocks and other ETFs.

  • @peter-pikesloan2361
    @peter-pikesloan2361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a hedge on a potential tech bubble - that complements VOO/ITOT/etc.

  • @luluonly486
    @luluonly486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very under rated channel

  • @antonianazario3008
    @antonianazario3008 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow thanks

  • @omgeditttt
    @omgeditttt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

    • @mattderron
      @mattderron  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @cyt784
    @cyt784 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Great vid. This is real value.