I work in a medical practice so I can not support these types of events. You are required to have a doctor consultation prior to any intravenous treatment. This is madness beyond my understanding.
What frightens me the most about this is her stated "if they don't advertise the medical benefits, it doesn't need to be regulated" imagine putting something in your body, via a drip, by passing the body's natural filtration system with stuff they're are actively and strategically selling without any testing or regulation.
Yeah, it’s shocking. They don’t even believe in the value of their product yet will try to let customers believe it’s efficacious. Cynical people indeed.
Not only that, but even if they WERE genuine about the contents, the human body is not meant to take in nutrients via a one-off shock load, either. You could easily poison yourself on nutrient overdose.
Weight loss products are the worst about this because they actively advertise bothe weight loss and "health benefits" while not saying so but also by saying so.
Oh I can't see this at all ....I'm a paramedic and so much can go wrong with an IV...this is medical procedure that should be regulated by a medical board...Deborah was so right
Speaking as a chronic illness patient who HAD to have daily IVs from home for two years and who got sepsis as a result, this is /horrifying/. Getting sepsis from an IV isn’t so common, but the consequences were life changing and severe. Diane Graydon is right - this is medical and should not happen without medical regulation.
I'm full time paramedic and I do IV vitamin infusions as a separate business. I'm fully insured to do so and buy all my products from a licensed pharmacy. If there ever was a complication with the venous access or the client, who better to be there than a practising paramedic
This is insane. I’m an RGN and I can state categorically that IV administration of anything carries several different risks; this is unregulated and wholly unnecessary and it’s appalling that anybody would want to be involved in it.
I agree with you on this one. I had collagen via IV and literally almost killed myself. Today I take collagen orally. I would not advise anyone to do any thing via IV useless necessary
Taking collagen orally has its risks too and many times not beneficial. There are many ways to boost collagen production naturally but it takes work. But most people are too lazy hence they resort to pills and injections
It reminds me of that mission in Dishonoured 3 where you can enter a room to find people hooked up to IV machines that are pumping drugs and other people’s blood into them, and you can choose to make them overdose on it.
B12 produced by mass enslaved bacteria... But bacterias are only prokaryotes and not "real" animals, right? Do you also deny heparin in hospitals? I bet you dont. I can go on about medicine that still comes from animals which you dont even know about.
Imagine going to a birthday party finding out that there is going to be a suprise, all thinking that it may be a stripper and in comes a nurse with a IV drip....
I was too ! Like why did they even do the demo, it was like ten seconds then they pulled it out, how would that show anyone its a good product or what it does and not make people uncomfortable to watch >.< smh
I agree with Deborah. I would also add that simply addressing the symptoms of a busy lifestyle makes no sense. People need to realise that you need to address the problem and not just let it happen and handle the consequences. I think it is a terrible idea, we need to adjust our diet and lifestyle to really solve the issue and no quick fix will help.
You're right, but there's always a market for people who make poor decisions with their bodies. McDonalds is still thriving and cigaretts are still being sold. lol
absolutely! it should be promoted to slow down the pace, to be mindful of nutrition, to appreciate food, and take time for fueling your body... their idea is extremely dystopian and might as well be straight from a black mirror episode.
I regularly receive IV's as part of my cancer treatment. Never mind what you put in the IV, the simple act of inserting the canula can create issues, especially if you flinch or try to pull you arms away. I've had consultants and IV specialist nurses refuse to insert a canula in me before because it can be dangerous. If the professionals tell me there is a risk there is no chance I'd ever recommend someone come to my house to do it. And definitely not to pay for that privileged. Plus there is increasing evidence from the medical community that IV banana bags do not reduce hangovers, but rather work as a placebo.
Hope your cancer treatment goes extremely well. And same I too have had nurses refuse to insert my cannula because I am very shaky so I completely agree
My dad has fibromyalgia, the pain clinic recommended that he try a vitamin b12 and magnesium IV treatment every week. That being said, it's being done in a clinic and not at home. Looks like a banana bag too 😂
@@xraaeee in the USA guns are also permitted along with artificial flavours and colourings and marijuana. Your country is not a model for the rest of us. Sorry.
This is ludicrous as Duncan would say. If they’ve got time to sit there, have their arm swabbed clean, a needle prepared and a cannula inserted into their arm, and then time to sit there and be drip fed fluids, they’ve certainly got time to go to a shop and buy vitamin tablets or drinks. As someone who’s spent most of the last 9 months being poked for blood tests, having cannula’s inserted and then contrast dye injected whilst laying in an MRI machine this concept makes me feel uneasy.
@@thomasmason8481 Yeah so only applies to ultra rich right? Just like dining at a fine restaurant - in reality it’s a bit pointless but people will pay ridiculous amounts for the best. If I have more money than I know what to do with, why would I take the worse option even if it’s more value for money?
Vitamin infusion? Should only be carried out by qualified healthcare professionals. Just because someone has a hangover it doesn't mean they're lacking in vitamins or nutrients. It's a side effect of significant alcohol consumption. It is possible to have too many vitamins. Does this company offer blood testing to check their clients' have appropriate vitamin levels? You shouldn't take shortcuts to health. Ludicrous.
there is a shortcut, its called a vitamin tablet/ powder. This is the equivalent of chopping off your feet to get your shoes off instead of untiring your laces.
She's gorgeous and I absolutely love her lipstick, but her product creeps the hell out of me 😬 A "drip party" sounds like something straight out of a dystopian movie, that's insane
Well, Botox parties are a thing. So I can imagine it would attract to SOME people. I would hope that wouldn't become a norm though. It's such an unhealthy practice compared to encouraging better nutrition and exercise.
Better idea would be to invent a safe and permanent plug hooked to a vein to easily insert and lock nutrient filled cartridges to inject on the go. Satisfy hunger with cheap and easy to produce food like rice, tofu, cereals or trail mixes.
2024, and she's still in business going strong. The only change is that she advertises that she uses certified medical personnel to deliver the IV drips now.
I’m a vegan and I’m quite capable of taking a vitamin tablet, thanks. Deborah is my favourite dragon - wonderful to see someone inject some ethics into capitalism.
@@Ben-mv9jt I think there's a bigger issue here, if corporations didn't take so much of all our time with crazy high working weeks then we'd all have more time to look after our own health naturally instead of injecting chemicals. I know since the pandemic and being able to work from home has improved my well-being no end, and that's just with claiming a couple of hours per day back by not commuting.
I'm not needle-shy. I've no problem with a nurse drawing blood from my arm. I've never had an IV, but I don't see why I'd have a problem with one. But I'd never accept an invasive medical procedure without medical benefit, which is exactly what they claim this is.
Touker said exactly what I was thinking and what famous people especially in US been doing for ages. Just partying all night and treating hungover with IV.
This is a terrible idea. Every time a vein is stuck with a needle it gets scarred. I’m having to give blood tests at the moment and they struggle to find a vein, I certainly wouldn’t be handing myself over to anyone when I don’t need to. People are fools.
Yeah as an American living in America, and being a “Fitness folk”… I can assure you I’ve never heard of or seen this thing in my life. So saying it’s “big” here in the US is a bag of, shall we say, “not vitamins”
If you show up to a hospital in actual need of a drip and vitamins they can put you on the appropriate IV, no need for this service at all. Hospitals have had this covered for decades now. Electrolytes and vitamins aren't new.
There's plenty of places that do this here tbh. I'm comparison to the market everywhere else in the world ig, the U.S is huge basically because it's one of the few countries that actually have these kinda services
Many of these drip stores have popped up around London, a friend of mine was having really bad migraines and thought she would try this method of consuming vitamins, she said this method worked really well, it was administered by a former nhs nurse, who was professional, knowledgable and warm in her approach of making my friend feel comfortable with the procedure
The only (imo) thing that would make this "big in America" is exactly what one of them said, partying. The only time I've seen anyone use a drip that wasn't in the hospital was to cure a hangover.
@@ZuluTheBee hydration, vitamin c, electrolytes and maybe some liver cleanser ups straight into the bloodstream.... and if you can inhale extra oxygen at the same time so much the better.
During pregnancy I had to regularly go to emergency for IV fluids, I looked into one of these companies to get it done in the comfort of my own home- but glad I didn’t.
Two questions I figured would be asked: 1) how long is one of the bags good for? 2) assuming the answer to the first question is less than a week or a few days, are you implying that you'd need to come to my house up to 2 times a week and give me an IV? That has collapsed vein and/or painful insertion site written all over it.
Yeah, you can tell none of the dragons rated it from the outset - not one of them grilled them about numbers or asked any of these questions - wasn't worth bothering with.
No clinical evidence and they’re proud of having found that loophole? They should have actively go to do clinical testings and be proud of their those results instead So unethical to their clients
Why would they need a clinical trial? IVs have been in use for about 80 or so years now. B12 shots have also been in use for decades. You can hydrate by just drinking more water, but it would take a week to do what the IV will do in 30 minutes.
Logical voice; 'Okay, so mate...you are lacking vitamins and you're dehydrated. You better-' Nonsensical voice; '...get an IV drip.." Logical voice; '...I meant a piece of fruit. It's really sweet, it tastes nice, it's-' Nonsensical voice; 'It's a hassle, that's what it is. I'd rather stab my arm with a needle and sit around for a hour.' Logical voice; '...rather than enjoy strawberries and apple and a glass of orange-juice? Nonsensical voice; 'Yup, much easier!'
_@@Uticus_ _10 hours ago_ _That branding would be more suited to a home activity not related to dentistry_ Like a visit from The Krays, with little Mad Frankie Fraser in tow
It seems like a form of madness to me. The government would regulate the industry out of existence the moment one customer ended up in hospital with rigors from an unsterile batch.
This is perhaps the dumbest product I've seen on one of these shows. As someone who donates platelets regularly, I definitely think there's a health risk to inject something into the bloodstream without removing some blood and if they are extracting some blood, then there's definitely medical risks. When they replenish my blood with saline it makes the body internally colder, and with an IV there's a risk of swelling, pain, profuse bleeding, etc, and I've experienced them all, because even a well-trained nurse can accidentally strike a nerve or hit the vein in a way that things don't go quite right.
When I was doing emergency medical training in the Army we had to stick each other with saline drips. I got lucky and my partner got it right first time, so smooth. My fear was unwarranted. I had to stick him a good 5 times in each arm though. Good thing he had a stronger stomach than me!
There's no health risk in injecting fluids without removing blood. The body will absorb the extra liquid and any excess will be peed out. The health risks are in the catheter as it has the potential to introduce bacteria straight into your blood stream.
The liquid could be anything. It sounded to me that they have a supplier.. and they fill up these bags? Possibility for cross contamination (they won't have a truly sterile environment for the stage they are at with the business) They are also very colourful... which seems to me - a guess - to be food colouring rather than a natural colour of the product... is this safe? Is it a banned E number? If you are running a business, chances are you are importing these materials (other than the vitamins itself) from China to make the best margins. The minutest germ, bacteria, fungi, virus etc. in those empty bags can grow into a major problem. But how confident can anyone be that the catheter are also sterile and are made from a suitable material? Anyone can order these things off Alibaba etc. but doesn't mean they are suitable for the job.
@@ellenkarlsson9490 No risks? You have a dirty arm? Infection. Iv not clean enough? Infection. Accidently injecting air? Cardiac arrest Not to mention the trauma factor they can bring certain patients. Professional nurses has to poke me 5 times before finding the vein, i can only imagine this private company attempting to
Surely a medical questionnaire implies it is a medical procedure? Such a dodgy tightrope to be walking. Besides that, I spent the whole time cringing at the idea.
"Surely a medical questionnaire implies it is a medical procedure?" No, not at all. There are all kinds of things that people with certain medical conditions shouldn't do. That doesn't make those things medical procedures. For example, you can imagine a world where you can't buy a drink at a bar without confirming that you're not pregnant, not taking antibiotics, and so on. That's a medical questionnaire, but drinking alcohol obviously isn't a medical procedure.
This product really pisses me off, injections poses an infection risk and you can just as easily get more vitamins through food (or supplements), and the best treatment for dehydration is - wait for it- drinking! It was nice however to see Tej who's in the supplement business being responsible and sensible and Deborah questioning the ethics of it.
Too much liability. I would be out quicker than Jenny on this one. All it would take is someone with occult congestive heart failure or kidney disease to kick off before the family now owns everything I have.
I have 5 weekly IV treatments for MS and I know that whoever is inserting the line has to at least be trained and hopefully be in a sterile environment. There'd be do damn way I'd let anyone inject something in to me that hasn't been regulated in some form or another
big yikes, it gives me real Hunger Games Capitol citizens vibes, people who have more money than sense who would rather be fed whatever vitamins they need when they obviously have the resources and time to get foods or tablets with everything they need !
For those wondering, the company and their website is still active. Gemma does not seem to be involved anymore, and resigned in 2022 from the company. On LinkedIn she seems to own a travel company now (not 100% sure if that is her). I hope they're both doing alright regardless ✨
I remember watching this when it first came out and thinking it was all wrong. Who would want to have their friends round to sit about and be injected with an IV?
@@TheManInBlueFlames it's b12 we're talking about here. there's already a wide range of fortified foods like bread and soymilk that have it. nobody needs meat or needles for it.
If turnover is £10,774 and they've sold over 100 drips they're not selling them at £220 + call out fee...not that this is anywhere near the biggest issues with this product lol.
Seeing Tej squirm a little when challenged on the benefits of vitamin supplements is hilarious. And yes, the benefits of multivitamins for generic health is definitely questionable.
Vitamins supplements make sense when you have a medically confirmed deficiency. If you don't then they a waste of money. The vitamin industry has spend billions convincing the public that they work, when study after study has shown no measurable benefit.
Has anybody seen my Heroin? If you find a Heroin anywhere, It's mine. I tried the lost and found but when I got there, the person in charge was slumped over the desk passed out Weird.
Yeah he got a bee in his bonnet about that one didn't he, almost got his bullshit exposed. Other than vit D the rest is literally all close to quackery.
When I was young I didn’t like Deborah. I thought she was annoying and patronising. Now I’m older I think I was wrong - she is clearly the best dragon.
The main market for this sort of thing as I understand it at least in the US where it started is as a 'hangover cure', for cash rich individuals that need to get to a meeting etc or need their hangover to leave them quickly, possibly celebs as well. You can get them in Las Vegas for instance. They are trying to tackle a different market here, and it's ethics are questionable.
Damn, I never knew I was "cash-rich" & "time poor" as a vegan. My bank account doesn't reflect that at all. What am I doing wrong? What a load of rubbish. I get my vitamins from plants, I'll pass on whatever nonsense this is.
This feels like a "something you try once for a weird story" kind of thing. I'd be curious to try it, but there's no way to market this without it feeling creepy or predatory.
Call me old fashioned but when it comes to parenteral delivery of anything I want it done by medical professionals in response to a clinical need. I wouldn't be at all interested in a couple of flimflam salespeople selling me a needle in the arm to provide me with vitamins which are available via a noninvasive route.
This is a step backwards. Imagine if this was widespread and entrepreneurs came into the den with tablets and said that they are more convenient and cheaper to make.
So true, I grew up in China and when I was a child I was sickly and it was common to have medicine administered through drips (this was in the late 90s) and everyone dreaded it, and really from my experience it wasn't any more effective than conventional pills. This is like that but even more ridiculous since we're talking supplements rather than medicine.
We have a german version of this too, and on you tube ive watched some american and australien shark tank, but somehow i fell totally in love with the british version. Must be the british charm😅
From a financial viewpoint it's just absurd. Why would you pay up to £300 for an IV drip of B12 when you can get a B12 injection from the doctors for £8?
Because the doctor will refuse to test your vitamin levels, nevermind randomly give vitamin injections without a medical indication because you make bad lifestyle choices.
They had nothing to back up their claims. Just marketing. That alone is a giant red flag. He was out because they didn't know what they were talking about.
They were literally quoting the department for health or an organization that monitors these things. They weren't making things up and using what they knew. If Tej is going to contest them he may as well contest the official bodies for these things.
@@TheManInBlueFlames Yeah, Tej was just salty about his industry looking bad on TV so he tried to fight their claim and then later rejected them for "lack of knowledge" to not lose face.
I think you can get multivitamins at the grocery store. And you don't need intravenous needles to do so. Not to mention if they mess up putting this in... 😬
Here in Australia they charge me $200 to have it done by my gp in his treatment room with a nurse. The government only reimburses me $40. It's so expensive outside a hospital.
I don't understand most of these comments. 20 years ago it was only middle class mums that could buy the Lululemon leggings and skincare products from luxury brands like Chanel etc... Now what do we see? Every fitness influencer with their own clothing brand charging at prices close to if not NEAR Lululemon prices and 16 year olds cashing out their parents to buy from brands like Drunk Elephant at Sephora. Do I see this particular company thriving based on their model? Not particularly - it needs lots of reevaluating however I do believe companies like this can thrive by targeting a particular audience. There is so much space in this 'wellness/fitness' market, so I do see the IV Drip therapy companies becoming the same thing. With respect to Tej, this is not the first time he has said 'I'm out' to companies like this, he does not want the competition.
B12 shots exist, you don't need a silly drip for it. Even if only a portion of oral B12 makes it into your bloodstream, it's not a big deal, you can simply test for B12 deficiency. The fact that a registered medical practitioner is advocating for this is insane.
If I invited my friends over for a £220 "drip party", it would become an intervention because they'd think I was completely mad.
220 PER PERSON at that
It was probably after a big night out/party to help her and her friends recover
I think that would be the last time i spoke to my friends. You have to be insane to do thid
I work in a medical practice so I can not support these types of events. You are required to have a doctor consultation prior to any intravenous treatment. This is madness beyond my understanding.
I saw this comment right when Debra came in with "this to me is everything wrong with the world.." 😳😳😅
What frightens me the most about this is her stated "if they don't advertise the medical benefits, it doesn't need to be regulated" imagine putting something in your body, via a drip, by passing the body's natural filtration system with stuff they're are actively and strategically selling without any testing or regulation.
I doubt they could even sell it without providing benefits. The normal citizen won’t just “go crazy” with it.
Yeah, it’s shocking. They don’t even believe in the value of their product yet will try to let customers believe it’s efficacious. Cynical people indeed.
Not only that, but even if they WERE genuine about the contents, the human body is not meant to take in nutrients via a one-off shock load, either. You could easily poison yourself on nutrient overdose.
If it's good enough for Joe Rogan now
Weight loss products are the worst about this because they actively advertise bothe weight loss and "health benefits" while not saying so but also by saying so.
Oh I can't see this at all ....I'm a paramedic and so much can go wrong with an IV...this is medical procedure that should be regulated by a medical board...Deborah was so right
Don’t you see all these rich ppl like Jeffrey Starr and all doing this now? It is a big trend
@@EndlessMagic7 if Jeffree Starr is doing it that's all the proof you need it's a bad idea lmao
Speaking as a chronic illness patient who HAD to have daily IVs from home for two years and who got sepsis as a result, this is /horrifying/. Getting sepsis from an IV isn’t so common, but the consequences were life changing and severe. Diane Graydon is right - this is medical and should not happen without medical regulation.
I'm full time paramedic and I do IV vitamin infusions as a separate business. I'm fully insured to do so and buy all my products from a licensed pharmacy. If there ever was a complication with the venous access or the client, who better to be there than a practising paramedic
It actually exists. Not this company but another one has iv drips like this in Westfield in London. Creeps me out though
This is insane. I’m an RGN and I can state categorically that IV administration of anything carries several different risks; this is unregulated and wholly unnecessary and it’s appalling that anybody would want to be involved in it.
You're absolutely correct
I agree with you on this one. I had collagen via IV and literally almost killed myself. Today I take collagen orally. I would not advise anyone to do any thing via IV useless necessary
Taking collagen orally has its risks too and many times not beneficial. There are many ways to boost collagen production naturally but it takes work. But most people are too lazy hence they resort to pills and injections
I've watched like 80 of these now. Deborah is, hands down, THE dragon. She controls the narrative almost every episode. It's freaking amazing.
80? Lol u must be new here
No, no. Deborah is nice, but Duncan is THE dragon.
@@fishwatch8677 Yep, love Duncan, absolute legend
@@fishwatch8677 I like Duncan, but I'm a software engineer. I've very rarely seen somebody more technically challenged lol
Debra is in her divine Shiva energy naturally
I love that he said "I'd never forgive myself" not 'I'd get sued' ....shows what really matters to him
well because he won't get sued...
@@nuck- it was a compliment and not an insult.
@@horusreloaded6387 yes, that's the way I read it too
@mason oops
Or he is just smart enough to use the correct wording. I am sure in his mind, the thought of a lawsuit was the first thing to throw up the red flag.
It looks like a procedure from a Back alley shop in a Dsytopian future. I agree with Deborah, it doesn't sit right with me either.
I wish they never came to the den, even their potential clients have changed their mind!
The Russian organ thief from Futurama is more investable than these people, at least he would have something worthwhile to sell.
Something from The Hunger Games.
It reminds me of that mission in Dishonoured 3 where you can enter a room to find people hooked up to IV machines that are pumping drugs and other people’s blood into them, and you can choose to make them overdose on it.
Yep. This is some Blade Runner type ish!
her: "for vegans deficient in B12"
me, currently popping in a B12 pill with my lunch, which takes 5 seconds, not 30 minutes: huh?
Me eating some meat so I don't get deficiency in B12
Reminds me of that saying...
"How do you spot a vegan in a crowd? Don't worry, they'll make sure you know"
B12 pills CANNOT be absorbed. It has to be injected.
30 seconds AND you just saved yourself over 200 pounds!
B12 produced by mass enslaved bacteria...
But bacterias are only prokaryotes and not "real" animals, right?
Do you also deny heparin in hospitals? I bet you dont.
I can go on about medicine that still comes from animals which you dont even know about.
Imagine going to a birthday party finding out that there is going to be a suprise, all thinking that it may be a stripper and in comes a nurse with a IV drip....
Thats like a nightmare scenario!
🤣
Then you find out it's a suppliment for carrot juice and not even going to get you high lol
@@jessicataylor7174 exactly! 😂
Bend over boys 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The dragons all looked so uncomfortable as soon as the iv came out. They hated the idea before they started talking 😮🤦♀️
I was too ! Like why did they even do the demo, it was like ten seconds then they pulled it out, how would that show anyone its a good product or what it does and not make people uncomfortable to watch >.< smh
Producer knew it would go down like a lead balloon just good for TV.
I agree with Deborah. I would also add that simply addressing the symptoms of a busy lifestyle makes no sense. People need to realise that you need to address the problem and not just let it happen and handle the consequences. I think it is a terrible idea, we need to adjust our diet and lifestyle to really solve the issue and no quick fix will help.
You're right, but there's always a market for people who make poor decisions with their bodies. McDonalds is still thriving and cigaretts are still being sold. lol
1000% quick fixes are never the answer
absolutely! it should be promoted to slow down the pace, to be mindful of nutrition, to appreciate food, and take time for fueling your body... their idea is extremely dystopian and might as well be straight from a black mirror episode.
@@jessewilson-music Don't forget YOUR alcohol, funny you didn't mention it.
You nearly have a fantastic name 😅
Moral issues aside, what kind of masochist would invite people to a "drip party" to get needle inserted into their arms? That's absolutely bonker.
Sounds like a gateway to injecting harmful drugs
You don't get real drip fr fr. No cap swaggin
The same people that do botox parties. I'm not saying it's safe, just that it happends.
Who are these people? 😳🤣
Drug dealers
the ending words ...... brilliant........'Their trip had been in Vein' 🤣
...as the Vitaman & Vitawoman leave with their tails between their legs.
Hahaa. Get it? In Vein? IV? I'm sorry I'll just leave the puns to Mr Narrator
You can almost hear him smile behind the mic
@@jjthe13th IV stands for intravenous lol
I regularly receive IV's as part of my cancer treatment. Never mind what you put in the IV, the simple act of inserting the canula can create issues, especially if you flinch or try to pull you arms away. I've had consultants and IV specialist nurses refuse to insert a canula in me before because it can be dangerous. If the professionals tell me there is a risk there is no chance I'd ever recommend someone come to my house to do it. And definitely not to pay for that privileged. Plus there is increasing evidence from the medical community that IV banana bags do not reduce hangovers, but rather work as a placebo.
Hope your cancer treatment goes extremely well. And same I too have had nurses refuse to insert my cannula because I am very shaky so I completely agree
@@desire1011 thanks. It adds a whole new level to scanxiety. Hope you do well too.
My dad has fibromyalgia, the pain clinic recommended that he try a vitamin b12 and magnesium IV treatment every week. That being said, it's being done in a clinic and not at home. Looks like a banana bag too 😂
My prayers are with you, I hope your treatment goes well!
@@balilla1923 thank you.
I’m a dietitian and the biggest drips I can see are the two people trying to suggest this is a valid product.
Debra put it so well!
It's huge in the USA. Did you know?
Is there any benefit to this vs regular supplements taken orally on a regular basis?
@@seanredfieldisntme636 I would say so, if your gut is in a bad way. It would be dependent.
@@xraaeee in the USA guns are also permitted along with artificial flavours and colourings and marijuana. Your country is not a model for the rest of us. Sorry.
I'm studying to be a dietitian!
The woman's voice is absolutely relaxing to listen to. It's sooo soothing. I would drop this risky business and join voice acting or narrate a book.
She sounds like a crook
She’s a vampire.
You sound like one of the gullible folk who would fall for scams just because it,'s presented in a lovely way it 🤣
@@ghostdemon7936 they literally said it’s a risky business but her voice is nice
I think she sounds so creepy and robotic to be honest
This is ludicrous as Duncan would say. If they’ve got time to sit there, have their arm swabbed clean, a needle prepared and a cannula inserted into their arm, and then time to sit there and be drip fed fluids, they’ve certainly got time to go to a shop and buy vitamin tablets or drinks. As someone who’s spent most of the last 9 months being poked for blood tests, having cannula’s inserted and then contrast dye injected whilst laying in an MRI machine this concept makes me feel uneasy.
Big Dunc, I miss his ruthless honesty in the den
@@meijycakes cost comes into it also, a packet of vitamins compared to one drip bag they’re offering is crazy
@@thomasmason8481 point is it’s a premium product that does a better job
@@Ben-mv9jt pack of vitamins hardly costs anything, they’re asking hundreds
@@thomasmason8481 Yeah so only applies to ultra rich right? Just like dining at a fine restaurant - in reality it’s a bit pointless but people will pay ridiculous amounts for the best.
If I have more money than I know what to do with, why would I take the worse option even if it’s more value for money?
Vitamin infusion? Should only be carried out by qualified healthcare professionals. Just because someone has a hangover it doesn't mean they're lacking in vitamins or nutrients. It's a side effect of significant alcohol consumption. It is possible to have too many vitamins. Does this company offer blood testing to check their clients' have appropriate vitamin levels?
You shouldn't take shortcuts to health. Ludicrous.
there is a shortcut, its called a vitamin tablet/ powder. This is the equivalent of chopping off your feet to get your shoes off instead of untiring your laces.
She's gorgeous and I absolutely love her lipstick, but her product creeps the hell out of me 😬 A "drip party" sounds like something straight out of a dystopian movie, that's insane
She also has like the most soothing voice ever
@@hiimjustin8826 agreed !
Lipstick is definitely relevant.
Well, Botox parties are a thing. So I can imagine it would attract to SOME people. I would hope that wouldn't become a norm though. It's such an unhealthy practice compared to encouraging better nutrition and exercise.
that is the future
Even if it was safe it's extremely overpriced and clearly targets people who are easy to rip off.
Deborah hit the nail squarely on the head.
She follows the straight and narrow
Yep, bang-on, good for her.
The nail in the coffin was the £££'s
Yes the product is messed up & extreme but there's allot of weird people out there who'd try medical stuff like this.
She ate & left no crumbs
I’m with Deborah on this it is just a quirky gimmick for people who have too much money and no brains
This is like something you'd see in a cyberpunk dystopia story.
“It’s 2067 and humans only feed themselves through Essex drips “
My thoughts exactly
Better idea would be to invent a safe and permanent plug hooked to a vein to easily insert and lock nutrient filled cartridges to inject on the go. Satisfy hunger with cheap and easy to produce food like rice, tofu, cereals or trail mixes.
If you are in desperate need of vitamins you would be taken to a hospital for something like this. This is horrific. No thank you.
*Gemma - "Tej is special to me, he's the Vitamin King & I'm the Vitamin Queen!"
*Tej - "I'm out"
I've noticed she also used word "HIS vitamin queen" making it sound like she has a crush 😂
@@JM-oi9pk Treading into some incel territory there bud o-o
Vitamin Queen? She doesn't even qualify as a vitamin duchess.
@@gregorymyers3886 Duchess lol? She is a vitamin scammer.
Jenny: Hey! That's my line
2024, and she's still in business going strong. The only change is that she advertises that she uses certified medical personnel to deliver the IV drips now.
This is genuinely scary
Imagine in 20 years time, your mates go "wanna have drip and chill?" 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m a vegan and I’m quite capable of taking a vitamin tablet, thanks. Deborah is my favourite dragon - wonderful to see someone inject some ethics into capitalism.
I like a big slab of cow steak with creamy mushroom sauce right now 😜
How does veganism factor into this? What is it with vegans constantly pointing out that they're vegan?
@@krissuyx The enterpreneurs mentioned that a lot of their clients are vegetarians and vegans, that's probably why Cathy mentioned it.
@@tommy_svk Oh, I must've missed that. My bad.
Really hope the inject pun was intended lol
Deborah Meaden... What a woman, admire her and her views so much. She puts it spot on everytime too 😍
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she's a tough cookie but says what she thinks! Makes no bones about it! Love Deborah's honesty 👏
I don’t understand the revulsion to a product designed to improve health?
@@Ben-mv9jt I think there's a bigger issue here, if corporations didn't take so much of all our time with crazy high working weeks then we'd all have more time to look after our own health naturally instead of injecting chemicals. I know since the pandemic and being able to work from home has improved my well-being no end, and that's just with claiming a couple of hours per day back by not commuting.
@@ZuluTheBee so are many people. It's decimating our oceans
I’m curious how much they thought of the public’s tendency of needle-shyness. Personally, I don’t know anyone who would want an IV if not necessary.
I'm not needle-shy. I've no problem with a nurse drawing blood from my arm. I've never had an IV, but I don't see why I'd have a problem with one. But I'd never accept an invasive medical procedure without medical benefit, which is exactly what they claim this is.
Touker said exactly what I was thinking and what famous people especially in US been doing for ages. Just partying all night and treating hungover with IV.
at least we know there's a market for it then.
That's absolutely insane.
@@ZuluTheBee yeah, it's called a hangover. people have tried treating it since ancient rome.
@@ZuluTheBee because it's fuvkin brilliant, you should try it sometime
@@ZuluTheBee But you will like your own comment though, won't you Great Dane. You pratt
This is a terrible idea. Every time a vein is stuck with a needle it gets scarred. I’m having to give blood tests at the moment and they struggle to find a vein, I certainly wouldn’t be handing myself over to anyone when I don’t need to. People are fools.
She could be a voice over woman for adverts and trains
Deborah is always one step ahead. NOTHING gets past her and nobody would mess with her, she is the all time best dragon.
Yeah as an American living in America, and being a “Fitness folk”… I can assure you I’ve never heard of or seen this thing in my life. So saying it’s “big” here in the US is a bag of, shall we say, “not vitamins”
If you show up to a hospital in actual need of a drip and vitamins they can put you on the appropriate IV, no need for this service at all. Hospitals have had this covered for decades now. Electrolytes and vitamins aren't new.
It IS actually big in America. You just don't see it.
Actually it is. Maybe not "big" but here in AZ we have two companies that do it and I've used them.
There's plenty of places that do this here tbh. I'm comparison to the market everywhere else in the world ig, the U.S is huge basically because it's one of the few countries that actually have these kinda services
I known a lot of people in the Bay Area (California, US) that do it, it’s bigger than people realize
Many of these drip stores have popped up around London, a friend of mine was having really bad migraines and thought she would try this method of consuming vitamins, she said this method worked really well, it was administered by a former nhs nurse, who was professional, knowledgable and warm in her approach of making my friend feel comfortable with the procedure
The only (imo) thing that would make this "big in America" is exactly what one of them said, partying. The only time I've seen anyone use a drip that wasn't in the hospital was to cure a hangover.
@@ZuluTheBee hydration, vitamin c, electrolytes and maybe some liver cleanser ups straight into the bloodstream.... and if you can inhale extra oxygen at the same time so much the better.
During pregnancy I had to regularly go to emergency for IV fluids, I looked into one of these companies to get it done in the comfort of my own home- but glad I didn’t.
Good for Deborah. She's 100 percent right.
Two questions I figured would be asked:
1) how long is one of the bags good for?
2) assuming the answer to the first question is less than a week or a few days, are you implying that you'd need to come to my house up to 2 times a week and give me an IV?
That has collapsed vein and/or painful insertion site written all over it.
Yeah, you can tell none of the dragons rated it from the outset - not one of them grilled them about numbers or asked any of these questions - wasn't worth bothering with.
No clinical evidence and they’re proud of having found that loophole?
They should have actively go to do clinical testings and be proud of their those results instead
So unethical to their clients
Why would they need a clinical trial? IVs have been in use for about 80 or so years now. B12 shots have also been in use for decades. You can hydrate by just drinking more water, but it would take a week to do what the IV will do in 30 minutes.
Logical voice; 'Okay, so mate...you are lacking vitamins and you're dehydrated. You better-'
Nonsensical voice; '...get an IV drip.."
Logical voice; '...I meant a piece of fruit. It's really sweet, it tastes nice, it's-'
Nonsensical voice; 'It's a hassle, that's what it is. I'd rather stab my arm with a needle and sit around for a hour.'
Logical voice; '...rather than enjoy strawberries and apple and a glass of orange-juice?
Nonsensical voice; 'Yup, much easier!'
They walk away without the cash INJECTION they were looking for.
Their visit to the den was in vain
@@aquapony vein*
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I’m always amazed how tired and un healthy Tej looks, poor guy looks overworked and it’s not the best advertisement for his own company
Next up on the Den, "U-Yank" a home dentistry kit for the busy executive.
Thanks for that mental image, I hate it. Take my like, upvote, or whathave you.
That branding would be more suited to a home activity not related to dentistry
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_That branding would be more suited to a home activity not related to dentistry_
Like a visit from The Krays, with little Mad Frankie Fraser in tow
@@rattusnorvegicus4380 I was thinking alone time, another video website, some lube, and some kleenex
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Just how reckless with people's safety must someone be to sell IV fluid to people without even bothering to do any form of testing.
It seems like a form of madness to me. The government would regulate the industry out of existence the moment one customer ended up in hospital with rigors from an unsterile batch.
It's definitely outrageous!
This is perhaps the dumbest product I've seen on one of these shows. As someone who donates platelets regularly, I definitely think there's a health risk to inject something into the bloodstream without removing some blood and if they are extracting some blood, then there's definitely medical risks. When they replenish my blood with saline it makes the body internally colder, and with an IV there's a risk of swelling, pain, profuse bleeding, etc, and I've experienced them all, because even a well-trained nurse can accidentally strike a nerve or hit the vein in a way that things don't go quite right.
When I was doing emergency medical training in the Army we had to stick each other with saline drips. I got lucky and my partner got it right first time, so smooth. My fear was unwarranted. I had to stick him a good 5 times in each arm though. Good thing he had a stronger stomach than me!
There's no health risk in injecting fluids without removing blood. The body will absorb the extra liquid and any excess will be peed out. The health risks are in the catheter as it has the potential to introduce bacteria straight into your blood stream.
@@ellenkarlsson9490Good to know. There's still so much liability with this product, no investor would want to be part of it.
The liquid could be anything. It sounded to me that they have a supplier.. and they fill up these bags? Possibility for cross contamination (they won't have a truly sterile environment for the stage they are at with the business) They are also very colourful... which seems to me - a guess - to be food colouring rather than a natural colour of the product... is this safe? Is it a banned E number? If you are running a business, chances are you are importing these materials (other than the vitamins itself) from China to make the best margins.
The minutest germ, bacteria, fungi, virus etc. in those empty bags can grow into a major problem. But how confident can anyone be that the catheter are also sterile and are made from a suitable material? Anyone can order these things off Alibaba etc. but doesn't mean they are suitable for the job.
@@ellenkarlsson9490 No risks?
You have a dirty arm? Infection.
Iv not clean enough? Infection.
Accidently injecting air? Cardiac arrest
Not to mention the trauma factor they can bring certain patients. Professional nurses has to poke me 5 times before finding the vein, i can only imagine this private company attempting to
I guarantee 90% of the stuff in that drip would be just as easily supplied by a small amount of broccoli and a chicken nugget
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The look that Gemma shot at Shiraz at 11:21 was priceless and said it all!
Surely a medical questionnaire implies it is a medical procedure? Such a dodgy tightrope to be walking. Besides that, I spent the whole time cringing at the idea.
"Surely a medical questionnaire implies it is a medical procedure?"
No, not at all. There are all kinds of things that people with certain medical conditions shouldn't do. That doesn't make those things medical procedures. For example, you can imagine a world where you can't buy a drink at a bar without confirming that you're not pregnant, not taking antibiotics, and so on. That's a medical questionnaire, but drinking alcohol obviously isn't a medical procedure.
Im a veterinary nurse and even i know that this idea is frickin crazy !!
I’m a hospital nurse, and I agree. This is a disaster waiting to happen.
IV vitamins is big in the US, i've seen people on the streets of Kensington Ave in Philadelphia totally hooked to these iv vitamins ...
Lol😂
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These clinics and services are popular here in the U.S. and there are even roving “hangover cure” drips in places like Vegas.
This product really pisses me off, injections poses an infection risk and you can just as easily get more vitamins through food (or supplements), and the best treatment for dehydration is - wait for it- drinking! It was nice however to see Tej who's in the supplement business being responsible and sensible and Deborah questioning the ethics of it.
People don't know how many things could go TERRIBLY wrong when inserting an IV. Ridiculous idea, seriously.
Too much liability. I would be out quicker than Jenny on this one. All it would take is someone with occult congestive heart failure or kidney disease to kick off before the family now owns everything I have.
I have 5 weekly IV treatments for MS and I know that whoever is inserting the line has to at least be trained and hopefully be in a sterile environment. There'd be do damn way I'd let anyone inject something in to me that hasn't been regulated in some form or another
big yikes, it gives me real Hunger Games Capitol citizens vibes, people who have more money than sense who would rather be fed whatever vitamins they need when they obviously have the resources and time to get foods or tablets with everything they need !
For those wondering, the company and their website is still active. Gemma does not seem to be involved anymore, and resigned in 2022 from the company. On LinkedIn she seems to own a travel company now (not 100% sure if that is her).
I hope they're both doing alright regardless ✨
I remember watching this when it first came out and thinking it was all wrong. Who would want to have their friends round to sit about and be injected with an IV?
Vegetarians who don't get the right vitamins from meat.
Who fancies coming to an IV party this Friday?
@@PortlandMan sounds like a sausage fest, I'll pass.
well, as a former(ish) heroin addict, i can say, heroin addicts
@@TheManInBlueFlames it's b12 we're talking about here. there's already a wide range of fortified foods like bread and soymilk that have it. nobody needs meat or needles for it.
Taking a tablet takes 3 seconds. They said this drip takes half an hour
You've forgotten the time it takes to get the tablet out of the bottle with the annoying child-proof cap. That adds at least an extra four seconds.
@@beeble2003 Takes me about 2.5s += 0.5s.
PEOPLE ARE SLOWLY LOSING THEIR MINDS AND ENDING UP ON DRAGON'S DEN WITH THE MOST DEVILISH IDEAS!!!! STOP THESE CRAZIES!!! PLEASE!!!
If turnover is £10,774 and they've sold over 100 drips they're not selling them at £220 + call out fee...not that this is anywhere near the biggest issues with this product lol.
You clearly heard them wrong, since July they'd had a turnover of £10, 774 but their total number sold was 100
Seeing Tej squirm a little when challenged on the benefits of vitamin supplements is hilarious. And yes, the benefits of multivitamins for generic health is definitely questionable.
Vitamins supplements make sense when you have a medically confirmed deficiency. If you don't then they a waste of money. The vitamin industry has spend billions convincing the public that they work, when study after study has shown no measurable benefit.
Has anybody seen my Heroin?
If you find a Heroin anywhere, It's mine.
I tried the lost and found but when I got there, the person in charge was slumped over the desk passed out
Weird.
@@ZuluTheBee But most people really don't need it. There is no point. This is what doctors are saying.
@@ZuluTheBee Do show me a source that proves most people have vitamin deficiency
@@ZuluTheBee Which? And which vitamins? Mine doesn't.
*I am not surprised* that with the idea of a "drip party", all dragons were OUT! 😱
Listen to Tej Lalvani, no one knows more about fake health supplements than him.
The only thing he knows more about is expatriating the profits of his daddy’s company, is vitabiotics still ultimately a BVI company?
Yeah he got a bee in his bonnet about that one didn't he, almost got his bullshit exposed. Other than vit D the rest is literally all close to quackery.
When I was young I didn’t like Deborah. I thought she was annoying and patronising. Now I’m older I think I was wrong - she is clearly the best dragon.
The only IV drip I'd be happy to have would be an IV drip of Guinness, from Friday evening until Sunday. Thanks
but that's exactly why you'll need the IV on monday morning!
Finally, someone with brains! For now.....
Well guinness does have plenty iron 😄
The main market for this sort of thing as I understand it at least in the US where it started is as a 'hangover cure', for cash rich individuals that need to get to a meeting etc or need their hangover to leave them quickly, possibly celebs as well. You can get them in Las Vegas for instance. They are trying to tackle a different market here, and it's ethics are questionable.
It's grim and they are grim.
"Will Sara Davies see this as a healthy business proposition?" Was the pun writer on holiday? No "could this be the shot in the arm they need?"
The "in vein" pun at the end was on point, though lol
You got the job fozzy bear
A drip party sounds like a scene from Blade 😂
Damn, I never knew I was "cash-rich" & "time poor" as a vegan. My bank account doesn't reflect that at all. What am I doing wrong? What a load of rubbish. I get my vitamins from plants, I'll pass on whatever nonsense this is.
You're not getting enough B12 according to these nutters! That'll be 200 quid thanks.
Not to be a stickler because this product was just absurd, but they weren't listing all of the possible groups as consisting of the same traits.
They were way ahead of their time actually. There’s a drip clinic in almost every centre around Joburg.
They've turned over over £10,774 in the last year. In other words, £10,775.
@Just Browsing they probably didnt make any profit probably. Hiring a registered nurse aint cheap
So not even covering their own salaries. Not surprised, this is essentially snake oil.
That's awful if they're charging £200 drip then a callout fee.
I can see this having a lawsuit, mark my words
9:21 wonderfully honest and so well put. Deborah has always been my favorite.
This feels like a "something you try once for a weird story" kind of thing. I'd be curious to try it, but there's no way to market this without it feeling creepy or predatory.
Call me old fashioned but when it comes to parenteral delivery of anything I want it done by medical professionals in response to a clinical need. I wouldn't be at all interested in a couple of flimflam salespeople selling me a needle in the arm to provide me with vitamins which are available via a noninvasive route.
I’ve never felt so uneasy at watching a pitch before. Deborah was absolutely spot on.
But why would you want to just sit in the comfort of your own home with a drip in your arm?
This is a step backwards. Imagine if this was widespread and entrepreneurs came into the den with tablets and said that they are more convenient and cheaper to make.
So true, I grew up in China and when I was a child I was sickly and it was common to have medicine administered through drips (this was in the late 90s) and everyone dreaded it, and really from my experience it wasn't any more effective than conventional pills. This is like that but even more ridiculous since we're talking supplements rather than medicine.
This would have been a great episode for April 1st. Absolute bonkers.
We have a german version of this too, and on you tube ive watched some american and australien shark tank, but somehow i fell totally in love with the british version. Must be the british charm😅
Dragons den is the original show 😁
Omg I thought you meant you have a German version of the IV vitamin treatment.. hehehe
From a financial viewpoint it's just absurd. Why would you pay up to £300 for an IV drip of B12 when you can get a B12 injection from the doctors for £8?
Because the doctor will refuse to test your vitamin levels, nevermind randomly give vitamin injections without a medical indication because you make bad lifestyle choices.
The supposed "medical practitioner" doesn't seem legit to me
Tej didn't like when they threw shade at him about effectiveness of vitamins lol
They had nothing to back up their claims. Just marketing. That alone is a giant red flag. He was out because they didn't know what they were talking about.
They were literally quoting the department for health or an organization that monitors these things. They weren't making things up and using what they knew. If Tej is going to contest them he may as well contest the official bodies for these things.
@@TheManInBlueFlames Yeah, Tej was just salty about his industry looking bad on TV so he tried to fight their claim and then later rejected them for "lack of knowledge" to not lose face.
As if our present landscape doesn't feel dystopian enough, stuff like this is being pitched to investors...
I think you can get multivitamins at the grocery store. And you don't need intravenous needles to do so.
Not to mention if they mess up putting this in... 😬
I've had 2 iron infusions but they were done in hospital and free and I am anaemic so I absolutely needed it.
Big up u
Here in Australia they charge me $200 to have it done by my gp in his treatment room with a nurse. The government only reimburses me $40. It's so expensive outside a hospital.
I used this in NYC recently… i think it’s fantastic. A shoe for every foot I guess.
Imagine going to someone’s birthday party only to have to be forced to sit through a doctor’s visit
I agree with Debra, I hope this idea/business fails
This is actually quite popular in some circles
It seems that Gemma and Sheraz' trip to the den has been in "vein"... haha, love the dragon's den puns :D
I don't understand most of these comments. 20 years ago it was only middle class mums that could buy the Lululemon leggings and skincare products from luxury brands like Chanel etc... Now what do we see? Every fitness influencer with their own clothing brand charging at prices close to if not NEAR Lululemon prices and 16 year olds cashing out their parents to buy from brands like Drunk Elephant at Sephora. Do I see this particular company thriving based on their model? Not particularly - it needs lots of reevaluating however I do believe companies like this can thrive by targeting a particular audience. There is so much space in this 'wellness/fitness' market, so I do see the IV Drip therapy companies becoming the same thing. With respect to Tej, this is not the first time he has said 'I'm out' to companies like this, he does not want the competition.
what are you on about
@@thewildetyme1112 Probably works with these and doesn't realize that the average person knows what a bad idea it is.
We have this therapy in our small town of Danabay in South Africa and its doing very well.
Imagine being invited to a kids party and instead of a clown, you see a nurse armed with IV drips
If you are regurarly getting so hungover that you need an IV drip, you seriously need help
B12 shots exist, you don't need a silly drip for it. Even if only a portion of oral B12 makes it into your bloodstream, it's not a big deal, you can simply test for B12 deficiency. The fact that a registered medical practitioner is advocating for this is insane.