I learned on a 100 lb bag. Bare handed and it definitely teaches you to land your shots flush and square. I spent many weeks with sprained wrists and skin missing from my knuckles.
@@larryteague871 You're likely not using your forearm and hand muscles enough, make your fists tighter and flex your hand, forearm, and wrist while you're punching. They will keep your hand in proper alignment and braced for impact. That said, wraps are good for keeping your hands from blisters or skin cracking, nobody likes a bloody bag.
A lot of people are saying to do knuckle push-ups. I agree. Not just for knuckles, but for proper alignment and strengthening of the wrist. Technique is important to develop first! I agree...ease into the conditioning as you’re developing good technique.
i doo fist pushups on asphalt combined with punching wall with boxing bandages applied, beliewe me it works, you can knockout ewerybody and brake its ribs, saddly i had real life use of it, saddly for the atacker.only drawback is no uppercut or hooking only direct.but your front direct becomes so strong that you brake oponnents guard becouse pain you induce.and using a 1kg dumbnells while shadow boxing gives you 20% more speed.lol try that way for two months and you will see difference when hitting boxing bag or someones head
Good idea, I've been drumming for about 50 years and still I can hurt my wrist with a good punch especially if they are moving to get out of the way (they wont make it, drummers are fast!) But it can set me back, taking a few weeks before I can play normally again. Another good one for the wrist is to get a weight, roe and a broom stick, drill a hole in the middle if the stick for the rope and attach the weight at the other end then roll it up and unroll it using your wrists. A trick I learned from Bobby Hull more than a few years back.
This is a new concept to me idk why as it is extremely self explanatory and obviously beneficial. I've only been training for like 4 months and it's on my own as there are little options for gyms right now, thank you for this small but important detail.
@@uzairmansuri4936 I'm surprised that such questions can be made. I take you never got in a fight on the street and never did martial arts. Boxing prepares your arms for a fight, but not your knuckles. (Have you even punched a back to understand how much your wrist could take??Try it.) There is no damage to the wrist, when your hand is tightened and subconsciously you will pull back once you think you may be putting too much impact pressure. If you work a job that strengthens your hands and wrist even better, if you lift weights even better, if you do pushups, especially knuckle push ups even better. Having said that, I am talking about fighting art practitioners, even so, most knuckles and wrists do not get hurt in a real fight, due to intense focus and adrenaline; we do not punch a wall, but moveable heads. Sure a child's fist/wrist can get hurt, or even a professional's can get hurt in a street fight, but it's rare and it's usually a boxer's fracture. You will millions of fights on youtube, but rarely or never find someone hurting his hand. Soft, fearful, ignorant people teach the opposite, because they do not know of the elasticity of the hands, bones, and more.
@@uzairmansuri4936 Great! The reason they told you to wear punching bag gloves is that you don't scrape the skin on your fist or/and not to leave your sweat and skinn cells on the bag. You can buy a pair of punching bag gloves, not boxing gloves. Also, the bag is heavier than a head so you have to use caution, learn how much pressure you can apply and still feel your wrist safe. Using correct technique when striking is helpful. What you can do is place one of your fists on the bag and just push it by extending your arm; do it 5 times. This is how you inform the mind (and wrist, elbow, shoulder) of the weight of the bag it has to deal with. Do it with both hands. Just push it from contact and see. Second thing is to punch it fast, but only on the surface where there is not mass resistance. When you get that down, start hitting the bag harder. Always do knuckle push ups or knuckle wall push ups for knuckle and wrist alignment. I say this, because I don't know your age. Trust me you will have no problem. Be taping your knuckles on hard surfaces; this will create thicker knuckles(won't explain how now), so that you have no fear of hitting bones at all. Train smart and safe, be well.
@@7outofthebox747 thx for the response, I wanted to ask will going gym and powelifting help somewhat in a combat situation due to strength increase, muscular endurace etc. And i mean this against an untrained fighter, ofc a trained one will defeat a gym goer and power lifter.
@@uzairmansuri4936 To win a fight, you must fight. Do you have it in you to fight? Or are you very afraid as a person? This is the first thing you have to realize and know about yourself. Who you are and what you are capable of right now. If you are a person that will fight back, do so only to escape a fight, not prolong it. Prolonging it means you have ego issues, hate issues. Don't start fights with people, but defend yourself when you have to just enough for you to leave or escape by running even using parkour if you are very young. Do not have evil friends that take you to evil places, this is one of the best ways to stay safe. If one cannot catch you while you are running, even if he is a world champion, YOU WON!! Running is the best self-defense you can train in. If you can't run away, doing a system like Kyokushin, or thai box, even mma will help you defend yourself. These systems also being sports do weight training, but they need time to prepare you. If you can, at the same time join a boxing school to make you striking ready faster, or a genuine combatives school(not many out there). You need to be ready to defend yourself fast with the basics and if you want to keep training, which is a good things, do so. Being a a weight lifter can give you explosive striking power, but having said that, power comes with responsability. Keep in mind: 1) you can kill someone and end up in jail or having to look behind your back all your life because his relatives will be looking for you. 2) if the other guy gets you with a brutal strike, your explosiveness will be useless. It's all about having 1) morality, 2) the purpose of escape, 3) a combative mentality when you need to, one under control, 4) realistic training that will as soon as possible give you tools to use to defend yourself. If you are a fearful type of person, you need to work on your fear being removed, by replacing it with founded confidence. This will take long, but MMA or BJJ or GJJ schools will help you with that. Again, avoiding evil people and places, talking your way out of a fight or running if you must, is the smartest option for you. Your ego will be hurt, but only if you are not smart enough to realize that your strategy outsmarted the attacker. The fact that you got out unhurt, means you won that non-fight! You need to think, what kind of person you want to be in life. Subtle moves, small bad decisions, can eventually cost you. Fighting is not a game, you can kill someone or be killed, even by accident. Avoid fights, be smart, love yourself and even stupid people that never received the guidance you are receiving right now...
@@andresvalentin6924 I think it's risky doing jumping push ups on your fists. Although I have seen a people doing this often. Perhaps just stick to the knuckle press ups.
Yup, that's the safest way to get the micro-fractures that ultimately build up bone density on your knuckles but burpees or jumping press-ups send a miserable shock-wave up to your neck.
I've worked out on traditional heavy bags th-cam.com/users/postUgkxp9-sf95nqfjey-uyzxUzQ7m9MXRPK1BE a spherical stuffed "wrecking ball" bag, and now this thing. What I like about it is that it has the heft to stay largely in place so I'm not chasing it around. It's tall enough to allow for headshots and body shots, but it's short enough to give an uppercut somewhere to land. I'm very happy so far. Filling it was a bit of a cluster. For top-offs, I've learned that you can screw the supplied nozzle onto any basic plastic water bottle. I can't speak to durability as I've only had it a week.
I totally agree with you on this.. its been a few years I've been hitting the heavy bag bare handed.. there was a time in the beginning when my skin on the knuckles would peel of n would hurt then i use to rest for two days n not hit the bag n on the third day start again. And now it doesn't hurt at all and i can hit the bag hard without any injuries or damage to the knuckles at all. I love your videos.. keep up the good work.
power doesn't just come from hands. it is the combination of body movements, especially the tilt of the hip and leg power, and of course, speed. it is about technique, got to learn and perfect it. i personally don't use bare hands to punch heavy bag...too many things could go wrong but it is a choice
My addition: A) From my experience training both with and without gloves, I found it interesting that the benefits of one don't really transfer to the other. Eg. when going bare knuckle, I have to pay a lot more attention to the precision of my strike so as to not sprain my wrists and to postpone the onset of skin abrasion, and that comes at the cost of using maximum power. Then with boxing gloves, the precision matters less since the resolution of your knuckles have been muted by the extra padding, so you might as well go with a lot more power+speed+rotation. B) To reduce the effects of skin abrasion, try putting a little tape on your hands.
1. Wraps and Gloves help develop the ability for your knuckles and wrists to take impact 2. Sand bag and knuckle push up training develops bone density 3. Bare knuckle heavy bag training helps test real life precision
Not sure why anyone who has ever been in a fight would disagree.. I started with gloves... And i did break my hand in the first real fight i was in. Since then, ive been conditioning my knuckles the right way and haven't had an injury since. Now i can go full tilt buggie on a heavy bag or with a person and barely even produce slight redness to the skin, and even then only after about 15 or 20 min of continuous punching.
Same experience but not just striking surfaces. If I take time off from training, it takes my body a couple weeks to stop showing bruises when I get back into it.
Wow these sandbag conditioning drills are great. I first learnt about all those concepts in Systema. But you have explained it a lot clearer. The density = heaviness, the hammer dropping = dead weight etc. All my Systema teachers understood this very well but couldn't explain it to me clearly at first (because Russian was their first language not English) Great stuff! Personally I would recommend punching with only gardening gloves on. They allow you to clench a fist and practice punching identically as you would with a bare fist, they don't offer any "support" or force your hand into a different position. You have total freedom to contort your hand and fingers as you need to but they crucially protect your skin very very well from abrasions and tearing which allows you to practice for much longer periods. They will also condition the bones
This is GOLD!!! I'm turning 51 the end of January. I lift weights, look & feel good for my age, but my hands have gotten real soft in the 6 years since I stopped training in martial arts. Getting back into it, I FEEEL the hand softness/weakness, & it makes me feel like a sensitive gaw'damn Sally. I will get a leather heavy bag, & look up those sand bags you have velcroed onto your wall. I NEEDED THIS!!!
I got leather in mi knuckles.. over 20 years always throwing leather, after all my experience I can say that the only way to damage your hand is by throwing the wrong punch. When going Barehand you should never go all out it's more about speed and accuracy than power. POWER=Damage.
I've always trained on heavy bag bare handed , I like to throw my punches fast with no power an rite when I'm about to connect I twist my punch an then tighten up with power , I can hit brick wall pretty hard an it doesn't effect my hand or knuckles I should make a video because I know people are gonna say I'm full of shit .awesome training video thank you for sharing your tips.
There are lots of ways to condition your fists. Knuckle push ups are great wag to start without impact. Hitting a heavy bag is not going to harden your knuckles. It will strengthen your wrist and elbow joints which support the impact and prevent soft tissue and bone damage. I teach traditional karate and a popular striking method is a makawara board. Start punching these lightly and gradually get harder. His will take months. Punching post, walls, trees and other stationary objects is not recommended but can be done. It is important to note that if not done properly you can (like I did) suffer permanent nerve damage. I impinged my ulner nerve and my grip is now 70% strength. While I can still strike hard my grappling diminished a bit and is something that could have been avoided.
I’ve been doing iron palm training for a good 30 years or so. Another benefit of hand and forearm conditioning is the mental conditioning in addition to the physical conditioning. Yes, your hands become heavier and denser, but your mental focus on each strike becomes more concentrated. That’s why people don’t injure their hands when striking hard objects like walls after years of hand conditioning. That mental focus is there.
I was bullied a lot when I was younger, but instead of hitting back, I would go away & take my temper out on walls, doors, you name it. When the day finally came when enough was enough & I DID hit back, I don't know who was more shocked - me or the poor bugger that I hit! Needless to say, he never bullied me again. That was when I was a skinny lanky shit of a boy & now I'm in my late 30's & put on some decent muscle mass, I dread to think what would happen If I punched someone now, considering the damage I did back then! I'm just thankful that I'm really laid back now in comparison to the way I was at school - which was really bad tempered. So yeah, I suppose this was due to the "conditioning" that I gave my fists, destroying my fair share of doors in the process! Somehow I've never broken any bones or anything, just the occasional sunken knuckles. Not trying to sound like the big hard man or anything, far from it, but I really hope that no-one is ever stupid enough to threaten my family- as I'm naturally protective of them & I don't ever want to revert back to the way I was. The thought of losing my temper with someone now actually really scares me, hence I avoid conflict at all times. I'm now really fortunate & thankful to my wife, as she is the only one who's ever been able to calm me down. I also hope that our kids never have to go through what I went through at that age either - especially now that we are in an age where respect in children seems to be virtually non-existent. Great video as usual - quite funny, entertaining & very informative!
Great vid. Very informative. Having trained wing chun (tsun, tyun and many other derivatives) for over 10 years with many experts across the uk and Europe, I was always taught to not over tense the fist, as it auctioned resistor muscles in the arm that slowed the punch down. Now, we trained somewhere in the middle (holding a bird in hand analogy), so whilst we weren’t super tense, there was no air in there either. Punch felt fast, strong and the arms didn’t burn out when chain punching on both wall bag and heavy bag. Mostly trained without gloves to develop density in knuckles. All good. You make a reference to loose arm, I guess we are talking the same thing. So important not to slow the fist down with an over tensed arm. Thanks again for the vid #fightboss
Yes, sounds like we are talking about the same thing. Basically people have a natural tendency to tense their neck and shoulders. By extension if you tense your fist you have a natural tendency to also tense your neck and shoulders. Hence why many teach to relax the fist in the hope that it relaxes the arm. Unfortunately, while this helps, it endangers your hands and reduces weight to the end of the punch. Hence my advice. Tight heavy fist with relaxed upper arms and shoulders. This gives you speed, weight and power. More realistic for self defence. Thanks for watching my friend.
@@fightscience I think the proper approach is to have everything loose until the moment of impact. Then you have to tense everything, you can't have you upper arms and shoulders loose, or you won't transmit any power, and you won't be able to absorb the impact properly (Newton's third law: Every action causes an opposite reaction). So your body needs to tense up to take back the same hit that you just gave.
Your style of teaching and real world situations, not tournament points fighting, reminds me of my first Sifu. Yes we learned all the kicks and punches then, combinations along with proper stretching but, the overall presiding lesson being taught was- end the fight as quickly as you can. Techniques, precision and no over exerted energy. It took me 5yrs to earn my black belt with Sifu John Dawson. It was worth every moment. I love watching your style and listening to your psychology of a fight......the best fight is the fight that doesn't happen.
My martial arts teacher, who also mixed in street fighting techniques. Condition our whole hand, but taught us that our first two knuckles were for breaking. Nowadays, I practice for the exercise, but the only thing I break now, is bread! Lol. Stay safe and healthy. Peace
I love this channle. This guy rocks!! He could easily charge for the stuff he puts out here and dosen't. It wasn't an actual fight becuz we agreed on the level of violence and we are also good friends. What i saw here sum time ago miraculously happened to flash thru my eyes just as he was about to get the better of me and without ever having practice what i saw i applied it the best i could and instantly turned the tables and won. Keep up the good work my friend and blessings to you and your family.
@@fightscience I've heard Grandmaster Ip Chun talking about striking the heavy bags with elbows and how it may not be good for the nervous system. Any thoughts?
Yeah man. Who needs to pay some fruitcake therapist you've never met with some weirdo college degree, when you can simply WHACK a heavy bag around for a few minutes?!? The good news is, no prison sentence, or ICU stay at the hospital for assaulting your heavy bag!
i've punched the heavy bag without gloves since i was 14 (it was 40kg/88lbs) and after a while you stop damaging your knuckles severely. my knuckles only lose a little skin after 20-30 mins
@@JaseJacksonLol, how big are you then? I swear the bag I supposed to be half of your weight and mine was a little over half my weight at the time. either way impressive . (oh, and canvas or leather? i think canvas hurts your knuckles more so it's not as good for training)
I tried punching the bag barehanded for the first time before watching this video, the first thing that happened was I tore the skin on my knuckles without even noticing till I was done, but it was certainly exciting, I’ll try out the techniques here, and maybe my skin will toughen up with time
Mrjibbat you do not have a single clue what you are talking about. This guy would destroy most people unless they have trained in wrestling or any ground dependant martial art.
I agree with everything other than bag types. I believe a canvas bag is much healthier for the skin of your knuckles than a leather bag especially once you've worked up to the point where you can put more power/weight into your punches.
Ive been hitting bags with and without gloves for two decades. Ive had no probs but one of my friends (who is a boxer) hurt himself going gloveless; it took him more than a month to recover.
This is a very good tutorial on how to punch, and build strong fist. I have always practiced punching on a heavy bag bare knuckled. Just for that reason, you don't go around on the streets wearing gloves, or wrapped hands. But as you say. It is very important to know how to make a proper fist when practicing that. I have made a short video recently on the subject myself. I have checked out a few of your videos. And I can see that you are a man with a real passion for the art. That puts a lot of thought into what you are doing. I have always said, any martial art can be very effective. As long as the practitioner trains the proper way for different situations. Keep up the good work!
Ive competed in amateur boxing and understand the need for us to wrap our hands. Tho sometimes now while I'm kind of off and focusing on school I do hit the bag bareknuckle. Like any exercise I do it in moderation. Over time my bare knuckle punches feel as fluid as with protective gloves. So yeah moderation, and be careful and trust yourself if you feel it benefits you here and there
A lot of Mexican boxer use work gloves with the finger tips cut off to protect your skin. I do this and it works. Not wrapping ones hands teaches you how to hit without bending your wrist and spraining it.
1973Saved my name should have 1978 in it lol, yes I’ve martial arts since I was 17 also judo before that but I was too young to really count that, I did tae kwondo for 5 years cross training with Wing Chun, karate and others then kickboxing for 2 years, took it all pretty serious, I’ve calmed in the last 10, 15 years but try and keep my eye in. People need to be careful with these things my right hand aches all the time, I know no one will listen to this because I didn’t, but keep going around punching hard things and you’ll get problems like all or most boxers do later in life.
I really appreciate this because people kept telling me to wear gloves when hitting the bag at the gym and I feel like in an actual fight I want my knuckles and wrists to be conditioned to take a lot of punishment. Not necessarily so I can punch someone as hard as I can but so that if I do hit someone my form and hands are made for no-glove related strikes. In the beginning I would hurt my wrist a little bit but over time I figured out how to keep my fist and forearm straight enough to where the wrists no longer become strained. The skin on my knuckles and hands in general has stopped tearing (it takes longer and more force to tear the skin). Thirdly, by the third or fourth time I come around during circuit training to hit the bag again I can hook it quite hard without hurting anymore (almost full force without pain, without injury). Now I totally understand that if I hit someone's skull very hard I can still bust my hand no matter how long I train for it. I know that. Hopefully it would be the chin or the cheek I hit but in a fight there's a lot of movement and it's not always easy to hit the spot you want to. That's just the risk.
Great video ! I agree with you 100% . Another note is that hitting the bag bare handed also teaches you how to hit properly. When you where gloves it gives support to the wrists but when you don't where gloves there is NO support, so if you punch wrong you Will know it. Ha ha
You are really right,i hit hard heavy bag of grain since age 14, i am 60 my hand are quit strong no bad issues,you can harden your nuckle with small round wood stick remember there is about 3 level of fascia,start lowly to fill your fascias of energy and remove all pain,then once it is harden you can crack a fullface bike hat without problem...
True true! I learned that way with bare hand and feet with my second down knuckles and push ups like that to, now my knuckles are more pronounced and shaper
I agree with bare fist conditioning, however it takes time to get your knuckles tough enough to go harder against the bag. So I suggest practice bare knuckle and sometimes lightly taping your hands so you can practice hitting with more force.
So I have a quick fix for y'all. First I want to say this guy is so right. It is even more important then he states. If you have a fist that can not handle the pressure your body will not allow you to produce the power. Our bodies are super smart. So by conditioning your fist you will automatically increase your power output. This is an automatic process people. Just so you know my punching bag is a steel tank and I punch it with no gloves or wraps. What people are complaining about is when your skin rubs against the leather bag. I got you. So wear a pair of super thin but tight fitting gloves. I got a cheap pair of work gloves. They give no padding yet you don't get the skin rubbing. Problem solve. Keep up the good work bro you got some really good points and advice.
Thanks for another great video. As a matter of fact, I love punching bare hand the sandbag, and I have learned from experience a few things that were not mentioned here. When you train, make sure there is no sweat on your knuckles, otherwise it will get slippery and eventually your fist will move much more while touching the sandbag, which will rip your skin off and then you will start bleeding. Another thing is that when I punch, I always do it with the front knuckles and always in alignment with my forearm, so I don't bend my wrist while punching. I've learned this from karate and thanks to this, I have never broken or twisted my wrists during a fight. But again, thanks for sharing your experience. Looking forward to your next video :)
I have done Taekwondo, and Shotokan karate and learned that hand conditioning or conditioning in general is a crucial part of training. The more a fighter trains, his power will begin to increase so you have to have hands that will not collapse when throwing a punch. Another thing is that hard weapons attack soft targets, and soft weapons attack hard. So even if my hands are conditioned i wouldn't punch at someone's skull or forehead that wouldn't be smart. I would palm strike it though. I would punch targets i know i could penetrate without the risk of breaking my hand. I broke my left hand years ago, now i hit even harder with that hand. The only thing is that there are many ways to train your hands, you have to be careful not permanently damage your hands, because alot methods of training them are not healthy. It is a slow process that takes years.
I have been studying wing chun for 25 years. I have been watching your videos since you appeared on the channel, I love you. I am Italian and one day I would like to meet you for a seminar. Thank you
I have studied traditional martial arts and taught my own classes for many years. Excellent advice all around. I would add if you only have a canvas bag you can wrap your bag in 2 or 3 places with a tape to avoid ripping your knuckles. Good quality duct tape is a an example.
Ive been hitting the heavy bag bare fisted for the past year, and I remember when I first started I kept hurting my wrists and then Id have to wait until it healed before I could carry on. My punches are quite powerful especially when it comes to my right hooks, but right now after ive been at it for the past year, my wrists and knuckles arr as strong as ever and I pretty nuch dont feel a thing, I could be on the bag for several minutes at a time and throwing as hard as i can and i dont ever hurt my knuckles or my wrists.
one of my fav bodybuilders uses the analogy " if you dig a ditch in a day, you'll destroy your hands but if you dig a little bit every day for a month, you'll develop callouses and be fine" paraphrasing but its the same principal to lifting weights and any form of adaptation.
I've been hitting the bag bare knuckle for a couple of years. I can now hit a large wrecking ball with rapid full power strikes, for a few rounds. I wasn't able to do that a few years ago. Now I'm fully comfortable with punching. I'm not a boxer, I just like doing difficult conditioning.
I believe I have something of value to ad here. I have done knuckle and fingertip pushups on various . surfaces including hardwood floors and concrete. About a
About 1/5 years ago I fell in the dark on my face. My eyeglasses were destroyed but I was able to avoid having my nose and teeth destroyed. I fell on my knuckles which were bloody but my life was possibly saved. I think knuckle and fingertip pushups on different surfaces is a good plan. I can still them at 68 years old.
I learned a good bit of stuff from watching videos; I enjoy them; especially because you all make it fun to learn. You have a good relationship with your students.
I've mixed with both wrapped up and bare handed and I grew totally with your belief on conditioning your hands, wrists, forearms and fingers. What works in a ring is very different to in a street.
At 2:06 he comments on his critics' complaints that if you hit a heavy bag, you will damage your hands. I have to wonder which "expert" is worried about scraping knuckles? Every time I've had to hit someone in self defense I've scraped my knuckles. You punch a guy with a heavy jaw and thick beard, your knuckles will look like you took steel wool to them, even if they are "conditioned." This is not an issue. Scrapes heal in a few days. The important part is conditioning your knuckles to reduce the chance that they will break. He is spot on; the idea is to make your knuckles harder and denser. If you bust a knuckle in a fight, the next time you have to defend yourself (even after healing) you will have to overcome reluctance to trow a punch at full power for fear of breaking a knuckle. Train carefully on a heavy bag and train both with and without knuckle coverings.
Very helpful information, as I'm just getting started with the bag. Also appreciate the fact that your voice sounds vaguely like that of Terence Stamp (General Zod) of Superman II.
I hit a heavy bag without gloves all the time, but the style I practice use palm strikes, forearms & elbow strikes purposely to avoid damaging the less protected knuckles. Plus, it just feels like you can generate a lot more power with elbows & knees, so, while I grew up boxing and is still fond of it, I don't train it for defense. Also, I'm tall with long arms, so usually attacker's strategy is to rush me, so making sure to practice the closer quarter strikes so it's more instinctive in an ambush scenario seem practical.
Thanks for sharing. I've trained and taught in a traditional martial art for twenty-four years, and bare-handed heavy-bag training is a staple in my regimen. As you noted, this is the optimum means of conditioning the hands for hard contact. I also employ a makiwara and other contact gear for the same purpose. For those starting, the key is not to rush the process of conditioning. You are building bone mass and toughening the skin and underlying bursa with the repeated stress of hard impact. But this process takes years to fully develop. Most damage, such as torn skin, or even broken bones, can be averted with patience (learn from my mistake: I stress-fractured my arm early-on in my training with poor technique combined with excessive application). Start lightly for only a minute or two, and stop at first signs of skin damage (preferably before it tears) or bruising. Allow the hands to heal for a reasonable period before resuming. Gradually build up both duration and intensity. It's possible with this approach eventually to be able to sustain twenty-to-thirty minutes at the makiwara or heavy bag, employing straight punches or varied techniques, giving you hands that can do real damage if called upon.
In the videos I have of Bas, I believe he said palm strikes to the facial areas and fist punches to the body. Although breaking a hand would be terrible to try to continue fighting, especislly if you need to draw a weapon.
I usually start training with wrapped hands, then 16oz gloves and last 10 mins of bare handed training. I’ve definitely seen advancements in the way I punch, the force increase and and my knuckles healed the skin was more dense and didn’t hurt. I only do the last 10 mins after I wear myself out a bit so I’m not going 100% and destroying my wrists.
This video demonstration is so needed! It's always good for something like this to be reiterated. Very important for that matter! Never know when you may well need to handle someone in a physical fight. Thank you brother for this video.
I get bruises and scrapes but i always hit my heavy bag with no gloves Itll get better as you progress Less bruising pain etc Doin tht several yrs now good video Love and respect
Our body will always adapt, i only use hand wraps when hitting heavy bag. When my knuckles kinda hurt then i just shadow boxing till it feels better. Now my knuckles rarely hurt, just dont go full power at first, let ur body adapt.
My wing chun made us do plenty of press ups on our knuckles for this exact reason. Mats or no mats. It was a university club with little funding so we didn't have a heavy bag or wall bags
I didn't have a heavy bag so I took some plastic drop sheet and lined an army surplus duffel bag and filled it with sand, Didn't know about wrapping my knuckles but bleeding knuckles didn't bother me much. Works great, never damaged my hands either. And the weight was similar to the weight of the guys who would pick a fight. Then I moved and the people their were much nicer, no more fights. Oddly I'm still glad I did have to fight, it taught me not to be afraid and to stay calm. Then I got old.
Everything is technique! I remember eight or so years ago when I started boxing I almost destroyed my wrists when I filled a heavy bag with sand, now that I have the technique up to scratch, bare knuckling it's an amazing excercise!
ABSOLUTELY! I recommend hitting a water filled heavy bag. Regardless, you have to learn how to hit with a bare fist and drive w/ the knuckles if you're training for self protection...otherwise just focus on driving a palm Bas Rutten style from his Pacrease days. I suggest learning to do both. Just my opinion. As always, great video sir. Thx!
Fight SCIENCE I wear driving gloves and do 8 rounds on the heavy bag a couple of times a week I put a few strips of zinc tape on my nuckles This is the same as bare fisted as you must land correctly and forms Calasis Excuse the spelling👍🏼
Fight SCIENCE I used to do 15 I hit as hard as I can point being those glove protect the skin but is the same as bare Also I’ve read the bob fitzsimmons did this also
This is one of those debates that people approach as all or nothing when nuance is more helpful. One more subtle point to training without wraps is not only do you get better form but it also lets you learn how hard you can hit various surfaces without injuring your hand. And if I made my hand sore the day before, maybe this is a good day to train with 16 oz gloves to slow things down while they heal.
It’s definitely good to hit the heavy bag bare handed, you just gotta be mindful of how hard you’re punching especially before you have conditioned your knuckles at all. Whenever I hit the heavy bag without gloves on I typically focus more on speed and technique. Another good thing to help for people who don’t have that control is to get a bin of some coarse sand. Then you can both punch it lightly and grip the sand with each hand. This will condition your knuckles, increase your grip strength, and even condition your palms.
Can you make a video on strengthening the chin and jaw. I have seen some fighters doing chin exercises on Es news TH-cam channel but I don't know the progressions to do those exercises.
Actually a good shot to the chin tends to snap the head, that is why many fighters do neck strengthening exercises. A load with a strap or rope held by your teeth will strengthen both your neck and jaw muscles if the movement is done correctly. Some trainers will also have you constantly chew gum.
Unpasteurized milk, raw liver, raw bone marrow, raw animal blood, raw animal fat. Basically everything that is: freshly slaughtered, was fed grass, clean and raw uncooked from animals. Its full of all the nutrients you need and will slowly strengthen your bone over the years.
I agree 100%. You can’t create density and strength in your fists by using gloves. Knuckle push ups go without saying. I really like that wall bag. Another great tool. Thank you for the video!
I have been wrapping 3 cloths in a tree and do a normal punch, not too hard not too soft every day, you harden your fist at a period of time, I have been doing this since I was a kid, now my fist is rock hard and I believe I can crack a person skull with my knuckle, even a hard and sharp edge doesn't pain me anymore, I can even crack a lock with my fist.
Hello Sir, Kindly suggest from where i can buy knuckle conditioning bag? One which you are using can i find in amazon? I live in Germany in a small town. So our most of shopping is from amazon. Please suggest. Regards,
I used to do knuckle pushups using salt over cloth at first my skin ripped off but after healing now it's an easy job for me to do push ups and bare hand wall punch even I broke one desk with bare hand punch
Dose this over time add strength to the distal phalangeal joints? I find those joints to be the weakest area of the fingers when striking with a closed fist.
It took 2 years for my hands to be conditioned without pain. Now I hit the bag harder than most people in the world and I am 58. It is a Incredible feeling and addictive. One caution be careful with your wrist. Hit it square and don’t roll your wrist and focusing on form. You lose form, then you should back off on the power or stop. Know when your wrist is fatigue and stop to prevent injury.
When i first started hitting my punching bag bear knuckle it hurt pretty bad,but when i was doing it for a while i felt pretty much nothing when hittng it.
Before I started boxing I would only hit the bag without gloves. And that hardened my fists significantly. And my hands aren’t damaged or broken and in fact I think now my hands are way more durable and are less likely to be injured weather it be a boxing fight or a self defense scenario. I think it also helps me in boxing as well because I have heavy hands from the increased bone density. Which adds to the impact of my punches.
I learned on a 100 lb bag. Bare handed and it definitely teaches you to land your shots flush and square. I spent many weeks with sprained wrists and skin missing from my knuckles.
I destroyed my wrists hitting heavy bag without wraps.
@@larryteague871 You're likely not using your forearm and hand muscles enough, make your fists tighter and flex your hand, forearm, and wrist while you're punching. They will keep your hand in proper alignment and braced for impact. That said, wraps are good for keeping your hands from blisters or skin cracking, nobody likes a bloody bag.
If the bag is too heavy then you will damage your joints over time.
@@chbu7081 true facts..I did.permanently
I skinned one knuckle punching my heavy bag
A lot of people are saying to do knuckle push-ups. I agree. Not just for knuckles, but for proper alignment and strengthening of the wrist. Technique is important to develop first! I agree...ease into the conditioning as you’re developing good technique.
I did knuckle push ups before.
i doo fist pushups on asphalt combined with punching wall with boxing bandages applied, beliewe me it works, you can knockout ewerybody and brake its ribs, saddly i had real life use of it, saddly for the atacker.only drawback is no uppercut or hooking only direct.but your front direct becomes so strong that you brake oponnents guard becouse pain you induce.and using a 1kg dumbnells while shadow boxing gives you 20% more speed.lol try that way for two months and you will see difference when hitting boxing bag or someones head
I never thought of that, that's a damn good suggestion. Thank you dude.
Good idea, I've been drumming for about 50 years and still I can hurt my wrist with a good punch especially if they are moving to get out of the way (they wont make it, drummers are fast!) But it can set me back, taking a few weeks before I can play normally again. Another good one for the wrist is to get a weight, roe and a broom stick, drill a hole in the middle if the stick for the rope and attach the weight at the other end then roll it up and unroll it using your wrists. A trick I learned from Bobby Hull more than a few years back.
How many and how often should you do Knuckle Push Ups?
I am impressed that fight science is really reading comments and replying appropriately..
Keep up the good Job
I've been punching bags a huge part of my life, nothing happened to my knuckles. Knuckle pushups ARE A MUST.
This is a new concept to me idk why as it is extremely self explanatory and obviously beneficial. I've only been training for like 4 months and it's on my own as there are little options for gyms right now, thank you for this small but important detail.
@@uzairmansuri4936 I'm surprised that such questions can be made. I take you never got in a fight on the street and never did martial arts. Boxing prepares your arms for a fight, but not your knuckles. (Have you even punched a back to understand how much your wrist could take??Try it.)
There is no damage to the wrist, when your hand is tightened and subconsciously you will pull back once you think you may be putting too much impact pressure. If you work a job that strengthens your hands and wrist even better, if you lift weights even better, if you do pushups, especially knuckle push ups even better.
Having said that, I am talking about fighting art practitioners, even so, most knuckles and wrists do not get hurt in a real fight, due to intense focus and adrenaline; we do not punch a wall, but moveable heads. Sure a child's fist/wrist can get hurt, or even a professional's can get hurt in a street fight, but it's rare and it's usually a boxer's fracture. You will millions of fights on youtube, but rarely or never find someone hurting his hand.
Soft, fearful, ignorant people teach the opposite, because they do not know of the elasticity of the hands, bones, and more.
@@uzairmansuri4936 Great! The reason they told you to wear punching bag gloves is that you don't scrape the skin on your fist or/and not to leave your sweat and skinn cells on the bag. You can buy a pair of punching bag gloves, not boxing gloves. Also, the bag is heavier than a head so you have to use caution, learn how much pressure you can apply and still feel your wrist safe. Using correct technique when striking is helpful.
What you can do is place one of your fists on the bag and just push it by extending your arm; do it 5 times. This is how you inform the mind (and wrist, elbow, shoulder) of the weight of the bag it has to deal with. Do it with both hands. Just push it from contact and see. Second thing is to punch it fast, but only on the surface where there is not mass resistance. When you get that down, start hitting the bag harder. Always do knuckle push ups or knuckle wall push ups for knuckle and wrist alignment. I say this, because I don't know your age. Trust me you will have no problem. Be taping your knuckles on hard surfaces; this will create thicker knuckles(won't explain how now), so that you have no fear of hitting bones at all.
Train smart and safe, be well.
@@7outofthebox747 thx for the response, I wanted to ask will going gym and powelifting help somewhat in a combat situation due to strength increase, muscular endurace etc. And i mean this against an untrained fighter, ofc a trained one will defeat a gym goer and power lifter.
@@uzairmansuri4936 To win a fight, you must fight. Do you have it in you to fight? Or are you very afraid as a person? This is the first thing you have to realize and know about yourself. Who you are and what you are capable of right now.
If you are a person that will fight back, do so only to escape a fight, not prolong it. Prolonging it means you have ego issues, hate issues. Don't start fights with people, but defend yourself when you have to just enough for you to leave or escape by running even using parkour if you are very young. Do not have evil friends that take you to evil places, this is one of the best ways to stay safe.
If one cannot catch you while you are running, even if he is a world champion, YOU WON!! Running is the best self-defense you can train in. If you can't run away, doing a system like Kyokushin, or thai box, even mma will help you defend yourself. These systems also being sports do weight training, but they need time to prepare you. If you can, at the same time join a boxing school to make you striking ready faster, or a genuine combatives school(not many out there). You need to be ready to defend yourself fast with the basics and if you want to keep training, which is a good things, do so.
Being a a weight lifter can give you explosive striking power, but having said that, power comes with responsability. Keep in mind: 1) you can kill someone and end up in jail or having to look behind your back all your life because his relatives will be looking for you.
2) if the other guy gets you with a brutal strike, your explosiveness will be useless.
It's all about having 1) morality, 2) the purpose of escape, 3) a combative mentality when you need to, one under control, 4) realistic training that will as soon as possible give you tools to use to defend yourself.
If you are a fearful type of person, you need to work on your fear being removed, by replacing it with founded confidence. This will take long, but MMA or BJJ or GJJ schools will help you with that.
Again, avoiding evil people and places, talking your way out of a fight or running if you must, is the smartest option for you. Your ego will be hurt, but only if you are not smart enough to realize that your strategy outsmarted the attacker. The fact that you got out unhurt, means you won that non-fight!
You need to think, what kind of person you want to be in life. Subtle moves, small bad decisions, can eventually cost you. Fighting is not a game, you can kill someone or be killed, even by accident. Avoid fights, be smart, love yourself and even stupid people that never received the guidance you are receiving right now...
I think knuckle push ups can help. I have been doing knuckle push ups for couple years and my fists and grip have improved.
Yes they do, because knuckle push ups force you to tighten your fist. Tight fist are good for punching.
Would it be safe to do those jumping pushups on your knuckles or is that too risky?
@@andresvalentin6924 I think it's risky doing jumping push ups on your fists. Although I have seen a people doing this often. Perhaps just stick to the knuckle press ups.
Yup, that's the safest way to get the micro-fractures that ultimately build up bone density on your knuckles but burpees or jumping press-ups send a miserable shock-wave up to your neck.
@Meta Man just do around 20 knuckle push ups everyday with a few other knuckle conditioning methods to stay sharp
I've worked out on traditional heavy bags th-cam.com/users/postUgkxp9-sf95nqfjey-uyzxUzQ7m9MXRPK1BE a spherical stuffed "wrecking ball" bag, and now this thing. What I like about it is that it has the heft to stay largely in place so I'm not chasing it around. It's tall enough to allow for headshots and body shots, but it's short enough to give an uppercut somewhere to land. I'm very happy so far. Filling it was a bit of a cluster. For top-offs, I've learned that you can screw the supplied nozzle onto any basic plastic water bottle. I can't speak to durability as I've only had it a week.
Glove worshipers: you'll hurt and damage your hands!
Sigma hand conditioners: that's the point-
His combinations are impressive. I can even see his Wing Chun in them!
I totally agree with you on this.. its been a few years I've been hitting the heavy bag bare handed.. there was a time in the beginning when my skin on the knuckles would peel of n would hurt then i use to rest for two days n not hit the bag n on the third day start again. And now it doesn't hurt at all and i can hit the bag hard without any injuries or damage to the knuckles at all. I love your videos.. keep up the good work.
I bet you have leather knuckles now. 😉
@@fightscience 😀
power doesn't just come from hands. it is the combination of body movements, especially the tilt of the hip and leg power, and of course, speed. it is about technique, got to learn and perfect it. i personally don't use bare hands to punch heavy bag...too many things could go wrong but it is a choice
All about giving proper time for them to heal.
Me too but then I have to wait 4 days for the scab to heal so I do bleed everywhere. Seems like a huge waste of trading time
Hitting the bag with a small bag glove is a good way to condition your hands
I use the rival rb5 bag gloves.
My addition: A) From my experience training both with and without gloves, I found it interesting that the benefits of one don't really transfer to the other. Eg. when going bare knuckle, I have to pay a lot more attention to the precision of my strike so as to not sprain my wrists and to postpone the onset of skin abrasion, and that comes at the cost of using maximum power. Then with boxing gloves, the precision matters less since the resolution of your knuckles have been muted by the extra padding, so you might as well go with a lot more power+speed+rotation. B) To reduce the effects of skin abrasion, try putting a little tape on your hands.
1. Wraps and Gloves help develop the ability for your knuckles and wrists to take impact 2. Sand bag and knuckle push up training develops bone density 3. Bare knuckle heavy bag training helps test real life precision
Not sure why anyone who has ever been in a fight would disagree.. I started with gloves... And i did break my hand in the first real fight i was in. Since then, ive been conditioning my knuckles the right way and haven't had an injury since. Now i can go full tilt buggie on a heavy bag or with a person and barely even produce slight redness to the skin, and even then only after about 15 or 20 min of continuous punching.
Well done to you, Sir!
Same thing happened to me take care hands up chin down
Same experience but not just striking surfaces. If I take time off from training, it takes my body a couple weeks to stop showing bruises when I get back into it.
Wow these sandbag conditioning drills are great. I first learnt about all those concepts in Systema. But you have explained it a lot clearer. The density = heaviness, the hammer dropping = dead weight etc. All my Systema teachers understood this very well but couldn't explain it to me clearly at first (because Russian was their first language not English)
Great stuff! Personally I would recommend punching with only gardening gloves on. They allow you to clench a fist and practice punching identically as you would with a bare fist, they don't offer any "support" or force your hand into a different position. You have total freedom to contort your hand and fingers as you need to but they crucially protect your skin very very well from abrasions and tearing which allows you to practice for much longer periods. They will also condition the bones
RIP to anyone he's ever fought
This is GOLD!!!
I'm turning 51 the end of January. I lift weights, look & feel good for my age, but my hands have gotten real soft in the 6 years since I stopped training in martial arts. Getting back into it, I FEEEL the hand softness/weakness, & it makes me feel like a sensitive gaw'damn Sally.
I will get a leather heavy bag, & look up those sand bags you have velcroed onto your wall. I NEEDED THIS!!!
I use a makiwara board, great tool, I also train bare knuckle on the uppercut wall bag..
I got leather in mi knuckles.. over 20 years always throwing leather, after all my experience I can say that the only way to damage your hand is by throwing the wrong punch. When going Barehand you should never go all out it's more about speed and accuracy than power. POWER=Damage.
Hey thats baki good example
I've always trained on heavy bag bare handed , I like to throw my punches fast with no power an rite when I'm about to connect I twist my punch an then tighten up with power , I can hit brick wall pretty hard an it doesn't effect my hand or knuckles I should make a video because I know people are gonna say I'm full of shit .awesome training video thank you for sharing your tips.
Be careful of your wrists,it just takes one time and it's destroyed for life. I ruined mine at age 37.
Yeah you chatting shit
Sweet TRT and Wellness I believed him up till the brick wall part lmao
There are lots of ways to condition your fists. Knuckle push ups are great wag to start without impact. Hitting a heavy bag is not going to harden your knuckles. It will strengthen your wrist and elbow joints which support the impact and prevent soft tissue and bone damage. I teach traditional karate and a popular striking method is a makawara board. Start punching these lightly and gradually get harder. His will take months. Punching post, walls, trees and other stationary objects is not recommended but can be done. It is important to note that if not done properly you can (like I did) suffer permanent nerve damage. I impinged my ulner nerve and my grip is now 70% strength. While I can still strike hard my grappling diminished a bit and is something that could have been avoided.
I’ve been doing iron palm training for a good 30 years or so. Another benefit of hand and forearm conditioning is the mental conditioning in addition to the physical conditioning. Yes, your hands become heavier and denser, but your mental focus on each strike becomes more concentrated.
That’s why people don’t injure their hands when striking hard objects like walls after years of hand conditioning. That mental focus is there.
I was bullied a lot when I was younger, but instead of hitting back, I would go away & take my temper out on walls, doors, you name it. When the day finally came when enough was enough & I DID hit back, I don't know who was more shocked - me or the poor bugger that I hit! Needless to say, he never bullied me again. That was when I was a skinny lanky shit of a boy & now I'm in my late 30's & put on some decent muscle mass, I dread to think what would happen If I punched someone now, considering the damage I did back then!
I'm just thankful that I'm really laid back now in comparison to the way I was at school - which was really bad tempered. So yeah, I suppose this was due to the "conditioning" that I gave my fists, destroying my fair share of doors in the process! Somehow I've never broken any bones or anything, just the occasional sunken knuckles.
Not trying to sound like the big hard man or anything, far from it, but I really hope that no-one is ever stupid enough to threaten my family- as I'm naturally protective of them & I don't ever want to revert back to the way I was. The thought of losing my temper with someone now actually really scares me, hence I avoid conflict at all times.
I'm now really fortunate & thankful to my wife, as she is the only one who's ever been able to calm me down. I also hope that our kids never have to go through what I went through at that age either - especially now that we are in an age where respect in children seems to be virtually non-existent.
Great video as usual - quite funny, entertaining & very informative!
Bullies? Bahaha, you mean practice dummies!
you are awesome man
Great vid. Very informative. Having trained wing chun (tsun, tyun and many other derivatives) for over 10 years with many experts across the uk and Europe, I was always taught to not over tense the fist, as it auctioned resistor muscles in the arm that slowed the punch down. Now, we trained somewhere in the middle (holding a bird in hand analogy), so whilst we weren’t super tense, there was no air in there either. Punch felt fast, strong and the arms didn’t burn out when chain punching on both wall bag and heavy bag. Mostly trained without gloves to develop density in knuckles. All good.
You make a reference to loose arm, I guess we are talking the same thing. So important not to slow the fist down with an over tensed arm.
Thanks again for the vid
#fightboss
Yes, sounds like we are talking about the same thing. Basically people have a natural tendency to tense their neck and shoulders. By extension if you tense your fist you have a natural tendency to also tense your neck and shoulders. Hence why many teach to relax the fist in the hope that it relaxes the arm. Unfortunately, while this helps, it endangers your hands and reduces weight to the end of the punch.
Hence my advice. Tight heavy fist with relaxed upper arms and shoulders. This gives you speed, weight and power. More realistic for self defence.
Thanks for watching my friend.
@@fightscience I think the proper approach is to have everything loose until the moment of impact. Then you have to tense everything, you can't have you upper arms and shoulders loose, or you won't transmit any power, and you won't be able to absorb the impact properly (Newton's third law: Every action causes an opposite reaction). So your body needs to tense up to take back the same hit that you just gave.
Your style of teaching and real world situations, not tournament points fighting, reminds me of my first Sifu. Yes we learned all the kicks and punches then, combinations along with proper stretching but, the overall presiding lesson being taught was- end the fight as quickly as you can. Techniques, precision and no over exerted energy. It took me 5yrs to earn my black belt with Sifu John Dawson. It was worth every moment. I love watching your style and listening to your psychology of a fight......the best fight is the fight that doesn't happen.
i use a makiwara punching board.I have it cemented in my garage floor.I use fist / palm / and edge of hand.
Coming from a traditional martial arts background....yes....bare knuckles.....especially the first two knuckles......
I think u should train all you're hand and body
My martial arts teacher, who also mixed in street
fighting techniques. Condition our whole hand, but
taught us that our first two knuckles were for breaking.
Nowadays, I practice for the exercise, but the only thing I
break now, is bread! Lol.
Stay safe and healthy.
Peace
Accuracy and power are KI. Workout on the bag is definitely good artillery.
I love this channle. This guy rocks!! He could easily charge for the stuff he puts out here and dosen't. It wasn't an actual fight becuz we agreed on the level of violence and we are also good friends. What i saw here sum time ago miraculously happened to flash thru my eyes just as he was about to get the better of me and without ever having practice what i saw i applied it the best i could and instantly turned the tables and won. Keep up the good work my friend and blessings to you and your family.
Thank you very much my friend.
@@fightscience I've heard Grandmaster Ip Chun talking about striking the heavy bags with elbows and how it may not be good for the nervous system. Any thoughts?
hitting the bag with bare knuckles is one of the best feelings in the world
Yeah man. Who needs to pay some fruitcake therapist you've never met with some weirdo college degree, when you can simply WHACK a heavy bag around for a few minutes?!?
The good news is, no prison sentence, or ICU stay at the hospital for assaulting your heavy bag!
i've punched the heavy bag without gloves since i was 14 (it was 40kg/88lbs) and after a while you stop damaging your knuckles severely. my knuckles only lose a little skin after 20-30 mins
I be hitting 100kg punching bag bare knuckles since i was 12 xd
@@JaseJacksonLol, how big are you then? I swear the bag I supposed to be half of your weight and mine was a little over half my weight at the time. either way impressive . (oh, and canvas or leather? i think canvas hurts your knuckles more so it's not as good for training)
@@andrewhannigan931 im not a 100% sure about the material
I tried punching the bag barehanded for the first time before watching this video, the first thing that happened was I tore the skin on my knuckles without even noticing till I was done, but it was certainly exciting, I’ll try out the techniques here, and maybe my skin will toughen up with time
The reason i love this guy's teaching method is that he trains you to fight in the streets and in every senario
Go in a street fight using this against an amateur mma fighter lol
Mrjibbat you do not have a single clue what you are talking about. This guy would destroy most people unless they have trained in wrestling or any ground dependant martial art.
I agree with everything other than bag types. I believe a canvas bag is much healthier for the skin of your knuckles than a leather bag especially once you've worked up to the point where you can put more power/weight into your punches.
Ive been hitting bags with and without gloves for two decades. Ive had no probs but one of my friends (who is a boxer) hurt himself going gloveless; it took him more than a month to recover.
Are you sure 2 decades I am suprises *_*
This is a very good tutorial on how to punch, and build strong fist. I have always practiced punching on a heavy bag bare knuckled. Just for that reason, you don't go around on the streets wearing gloves, or wrapped hands. But as you say. It is very important to know how to make a proper fist when practicing that. I have made a short video recently on the subject myself. I have checked out a few of your videos. And I can see that you are a man with a real passion for the art. That puts a lot of thought into what you are doing. I have always said, any martial art can be very effective. As long as the practitioner trains the proper way for different situations. Keep up the good work!
Ive competed in amateur boxing and understand the need for us to wrap our hands. Tho sometimes now while I'm kind of off and focusing on school I do hit the bag bareknuckle. Like any exercise I do it in moderation. Over time my bare knuckle punches feel as fluid as with protective gloves. So yeah moderation, and be careful and trust yourself if you feel it benefits you here and there
Brandon Villatuya watch Michael jai White explain why people wrap their fists. It’s cause they don’t know how to make a fist
I just wrap my hands but don’t cover my knuckles so I don’t drill my wrists
Jesse Zelaya more important for the wrists and yeah for retarded ppl if it’s in terms of hurting there actual fists
A lot of Mexican boxer use work gloves with the finger tips cut off to protect your skin. I do this and it works. Not wrapping ones hands teaches you how to hit without bending your wrist and spraining it.
Boxing,Karate,and Jeet Kune Do uses knuckle push ups done them all ever since I was 15 now I am 32 years old.
Seth McDonald funnily enough I’ve done all of these martial arts, and the only martial art I did knuckle push ups in was judo lol
@@marcusgingell3585
I did it in all three, been doing them all my adult life. They work well for me.
1973Saved my name should have 1978 in it lol, yes I’ve martial arts since I was 17 also judo before that but I was too young to really count that, I did tae kwondo for 5 years cross training with Wing Chun, karate and others then kickboxing for 2 years, took it all pretty serious, I’ve calmed in the last 10, 15 years but try and keep my eye in.
People need to be careful with these things my right hand aches all the time, I know no one will listen to this because I didn’t, but keep going around punching hard things and you’ll get problems like all or most boxers do later in life.
I really appreciate this because people kept telling me to wear gloves when hitting the bag at the gym and I feel like in an actual fight I want my knuckles and wrists to be conditioned to take a lot of punishment. Not necessarily so I can punch someone as hard as I can but so that if I do hit someone my form and hands are made for no-glove related strikes.
In the beginning I would hurt my wrist a little bit but over time I figured out how to keep my fist and forearm straight enough to where the wrists no longer become strained. The skin on my knuckles and hands in general has stopped tearing (it takes longer and more force to tear the skin). Thirdly, by the third or fourth time I come around during circuit training to hit the bag again I can hook it quite hard without hurting anymore (almost full force without pain, without injury).
Now I totally understand that if I hit someone's skull very hard I can still bust my hand no matter how long I train for it. I know that. Hopefully it would be the chin or the cheek I hit but in a fight there's a lot of movement and it's not always easy to hit the spot you want to. That's just the risk.
Great video ! I agree with you 100% . Another note is that hitting the bag bare handed also teaches you how to hit properly. When you where gloves it gives support to the wrists but when you don't where gloves there is NO support, so if you punch wrong you Will know it. Ha ha
Very practical training..I am a follower
You are really right,i hit hard heavy bag of grain since age 14, i am 60 my hand are quit strong no bad issues,you can harden your nuckle with small round wood stick remember there is about 3 level of fascia,start lowly to fill your fascias of energy and remove all pain,then once it is harden you can crack a fullface bike hat without problem...
Hajime no ippo!
Baki the Grappler and Hajime No Ippo. Two really good anime
One piece tooo
@@dtcromer yes what was the other anime with the bearded man practising martial arts?
@@MalamIbnMalam what's the name of the cartoons used in this video please?
@@MalamIbnMalam baki the grappler
True true! I learned that way with bare hand and feet with my second down knuckles and push ups like that to, now my knuckles are more pronounced and shaper
I agree with bare fist conditioning, however it takes time to get your knuckles tough enough to go harder against the bag. So I suggest practice bare knuckle and sometimes lightly taping your hands so you can practice hitting with more force.
So I have a quick fix for y'all. First I want to say this guy is so right. It is even more important then he states. If you have a fist that can not handle the pressure your body will not allow you to produce the power. Our bodies are super smart. So by conditioning your fist you will automatically increase your power output. This is an automatic process people. Just so you know my punching bag is a steel tank and I punch it with no gloves or wraps. What people are complaining about is when your skin rubs against the leather bag. I got you. So wear a pair of super thin but tight fitting gloves. I got a cheap pair of work gloves. They give no padding yet you don't get the skin rubbing. Problem solve. Keep up the good work bro you got some really good points and advice.
Thanks for another great video. As a matter of fact, I love punching bare hand the sandbag, and I have learned from experience a few things that were not mentioned here. When you train, make sure there is no sweat on your knuckles, otherwise it will get slippery and eventually your fist will move much more while touching the sandbag, which will rip your skin off and then you will start bleeding. Another thing is that when I punch, I always do it with the front knuckles and always in alignment with my forearm, so I don't bend my wrist while punching. I've learned this from karate and thanks to this, I have never broken or twisted my wrists during a fight. But again, thanks for sharing your experience. Looking forward to your next video :)
Nothing like rolling your wrist to teach you about alignment when punching.
I have done Taekwondo, and Shotokan karate and learned that hand conditioning or conditioning in general is a crucial part of training. The more a fighter trains, his power will begin to increase so you have to have hands that will not collapse when throwing a punch. Another thing is that hard weapons attack soft targets, and soft weapons attack hard. So even if my hands are conditioned i wouldn't punch at someone's skull or forehead that wouldn't be smart. I would palm strike it though. I would punch targets i know i could penetrate without the risk of breaking my hand. I broke my left hand years ago, now i hit even harder with that hand. The only thing is that there are many ways to train your hands, you have to be careful not permanently damage your hands, because alot methods of training them are not healthy. It is a slow process that takes years.
I have been studying wing chun for 25 years. I have been watching your videos since you appeared on the channel, I love you. I am Italian and one day I would like to meet you for a seminar. Thank you
I have studied traditional martial arts and taught my own classes for many years. Excellent advice all around. I would add if you only have a canvas bag you can wrap your bag in 2 or 3 places with a tape to avoid ripping your knuckles. Good quality duct tape is a an example.
Ive been hitting the heavy bag bare fisted for the past year, and I remember when I first started I kept hurting my wrists and then Id have to wait until it healed before I could carry on. My punches are quite powerful especially when it comes to my right hooks, but right now after ive been at it for the past year, my wrists and knuckles arr as strong as ever and I pretty nuch dont feel a thing, I could be on the bag for several minutes at a time and throwing as hard as i can and i dont ever hurt my knuckles or my wrists.
one of my fav bodybuilders uses the analogy " if you dig a ditch in a day, you'll destroy your hands but if you dig a little bit every day for a month, you'll develop callouses and be fine" paraphrasing but its the same principal to lifting weights and any form of adaptation.
I've been hitting the bag bare knuckle for a couple of years. I can now hit a large wrecking ball with rapid full power strikes, for a few rounds. I wasn't able to do that a few years ago. Now I'm fully comfortable with punching. I'm not a boxer, I just like doing difficult conditioning.
I believe I have something of value to ad here. I have done knuckle and fingertip pushups on various . surfaces including hardwood floors and concrete. About a
About 1/5 years ago I fell in the dark on my face. My eyeglasses were destroyed but I was able to avoid having my nose and teeth destroyed. I fell on my knuckles which were bloody but my life was possibly saved. I think knuckle and fingertip pushups on different surfaces is a good plan. I can still them at 68 years old.
Great video Mark 👊
Thank you.
It's great man . First it hurts but daily practice made my hand stronger than ever now am fast and my fist had triple power
your fist cannot have power, that literally makes no sense.
How many Kw?
@@ricodsanchez6792 he fisted himself that’s what it means
@@deadbodybaby1 Thanks for the clarity I thought he was gay but wasn't sure what to make of it.
Great advice thanks
Thank you.
I learned a good bit of stuff from watching videos; I enjoy them; especially because you all make it fun to learn. You have a good relationship with your students.
I've mixed with both wrapped up and bare handed and I grew totally with your belief on conditioning your hands, wrists, forearms and fingers.
What works in a ring is very different to in a street.
I put pads on my wing Chun dummy and punch that ,never had a problem with my fists, and ive been training a long time, great video mark 😀
That works.
You are the best Si-fu Mark!! you teach us so much!!
I don't know if I missed it but what about Vertical Fist punching?
I keep hearing how the VF position is more stable for bare-knuckle.
At 2:06 he comments on his critics' complaints that if you hit a heavy bag, you will damage your hands. I have to wonder which "expert" is worried about scraping knuckles? Every time I've had to hit someone in self defense I've scraped my knuckles. You punch a guy with a heavy jaw and thick beard, your knuckles will look like you took steel wool to them, even if they are "conditioned." This is not an issue. Scrapes heal in a few days. The important part is conditioning your knuckles to reduce the chance that they will break. He is spot on; the idea is to make your knuckles harder and denser. If you bust a knuckle in a fight, the next time you have to defend yourself (even after healing) you will have to overcome reluctance to trow a punch at full power for fear of breaking a knuckle. Train carefully on a heavy bag and train both with and without knuckle coverings.
Very helpful information, as I'm just getting started with the bag. Also appreciate the fact that your voice sounds vaguely like that of Terence Stamp (General Zod) of Superman II.
I hit a heavy bag without gloves all the time, but the style I practice use palm strikes, forearms & elbow strikes purposely to avoid damaging the less protected knuckles. Plus, it just feels like you can generate a lot more power with elbows & knees, so, while I grew up boxing and is still fond of it, I don't train it for defense. Also, I'm tall with long arms, so usually attacker's strategy is to rush me, so making sure to practice the closer quarter strikes so it's more instinctive in an ambush scenario seem practical.
very solid advice on this one!!
Thanks for sharing. I've trained and taught in a traditional martial art for twenty-four years, and bare-handed heavy-bag training is a staple in my regimen. As you noted, this is the optimum means of conditioning the hands for hard contact. I also employ a makiwara and other contact gear for the same purpose. For those starting, the key is not to rush the process of conditioning. You are building bone mass and toughening the skin and underlying bursa with the repeated stress of hard impact. But this process takes years to fully develop. Most damage, such as torn skin, or even broken bones, can be averted with patience (learn from my mistake: I stress-fractured my arm early-on in my training with poor technique combined with excessive application). Start lightly for only a minute or two, and stop at first signs of skin damage (preferably before it tears) or bruising. Allow the hands to heal for a reasonable period before resuming. Gradually build up both duration and intensity. It's possible with this approach eventually to be able to sustain twenty-to-thirty minutes at the makiwara or heavy bag, employing straight punches or varied techniques, giving you hands that can do real damage if called upon.
Good information as much the same thing happened to me
Makes perfect sense. I'm not sure why anyone got confused.
In a street fight you should consider not box with a fist. Bas Rutton has good views on this.
In the videos I have of Bas, I believe he said palm strikes to the facial areas and fist punches to the body. Although breaking a hand would be terrible to try to continue fighting, especislly if you need to draw a weapon.
I usually start training with wrapped hands, then 16oz gloves and last 10 mins of bare handed training. I’ve definitely seen advancements in the way I punch, the force increase and and my knuckles healed the skin was more dense and didn’t hurt. I only do the last 10 mins after I wear myself out a bit so I’m not going 100% and destroying my wrists.
This video demonstration is so needed! It's always good for something like this to be reiterated. Very important for that matter! Never know when you may well need to handle someone in a physical fight. Thank you brother for this video.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO!!
I get bruises and scrapes but i always hit my heavy bag with no gloves Itll get better as you progress Less bruising pain etc Doin tht several yrs now good video Love and respect
Our body will always adapt, i only use hand wraps when hitting heavy bag.
When my knuckles kinda hurt then i just shadow boxing till it feels better.
Now my knuckles rarely hurt, just dont go full power at first, let ur body adapt.
My wing chun made us do plenty of press ups on our knuckles for this exact reason. Mats or no mats. It was a university club with little funding so we didn't have a heavy bag or wall bags
man i love this channel every video you make is full of wisdom, and you dont bash on anyone. i use a bag made from tires wrapped in duct tape...
Nice. Tires give you a good bounce. The rubber helps.
He is very good
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I didn't have a heavy bag so I took some plastic drop sheet and lined an army surplus duffel bag and filled it with sand, Didn't know about wrapping my knuckles but bleeding knuckles didn't bother me much. Works great, never damaged my hands either. And the weight was similar to the weight of the guys who would pick a fight. Then I moved and the people their were much nicer, no more fights. Oddly I'm still glad I did have to fight, it taught me not to be afraid and to stay calm. Then I got old.
Everything is technique! I remember eight or so years ago when I started boxing I almost destroyed my wrists when I filled a heavy bag with sand, now that I have the technique up to scratch, bare knuckling it's an amazing excercise!
That is great teaching.
ABSOLUTELY! I recommend hitting a water filled heavy bag. Regardless, you have to learn how to hit with a bare fist and drive w/ the knuckles if you're training for self protection...otherwise just focus on driving a palm Bas Rutten style from his Pacrease days. I suggest learning to do both.
Just my opinion. As always, great video sir. Thx!
Thank You for All You Do & Share with us.
Thank you for watching my friend. It makes all the hard work worthwhile.
Fight SCIENCE I wear driving gloves and do 8 rounds on the heavy bag a couple of times a week
I put a few strips of zinc tape on my nuckles
This is the same as bare fisted as you must land correctly and forms Calasis
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Fight SCIENCE I used to do 15 I hit as hard as I can point being those glove protect the skin but is the same as bare
Also I’ve read the bob fitzsimmons did this also
This is one of those debates that people approach as all or nothing when nuance is more helpful. One more subtle point to training without wraps is not only do you get better form but it also lets you learn how hard you can hit various surfaces without injuring your hand. And if I made my hand sore the day before, maybe this is a good day to train with 16 oz gloves to slow things down while they heal.
Excellent style
It’s definitely good to hit the heavy bag bare handed, you just gotta be mindful of how hard you’re punching especially before you have conditioned your knuckles at all. Whenever I hit the heavy bag without gloves on I typically focus more on speed and technique. Another good thing to help for people who don’t have that control is to get a bin of some coarse sand. Then you can both punch it lightly and grip the sand with each hand. This will condition your knuckles, increase your grip strength, and even condition your palms.
excellent instructions ! ... these handy tips works for me. I always remember the wise man's words , new Broom sweeps well!..
Can you make a video on strengthening the chin and jaw. I have seen some fighters doing chin exercises on Es news TH-cam channel but I don't know the progressions to do those exercises.
Dude there is no way for conditioning ur chin. You will just make it weaker and weaker with any strikes thrown at it to try to strengthen it.
those are bones how are you gonna strengthen those ? drink milk?
Actually a good shot to the chin tends to snap the head, that is why many fighters do neck strengthening exercises. A load with a strap or rope held by your teeth will strengthen both your neck and jaw muscles if the movement is done correctly. Some trainers will also have you constantly chew gum.
Unpasteurized milk, raw liver, raw bone marrow, raw animal blood, raw animal fat. Basically everything that is: freshly slaughtered, was fed grass, clean and raw uncooked from animals. Its full of all the nutrients you need and will slowly strengthen your bone over the years.
@@infectionsman Years? The bacteria alone may kill you within days.
where to get these sand bags @ 3:05? please
I agree 100%. You can’t create density and strength in your fists by using gloves. Knuckle push ups go without saying. I really like that wall bag. Another great tool. Thank you for the video!
Great video guys thanks
Love your fighting
Thank you. 😊
I have been wrapping 3 cloths in a tree and do a normal punch, not too hard not too soft every day, you harden your fist at a period of time, I have been doing this since I was a kid, now my fist is rock hard and I believe I can crack a person skull with my knuckle, even a hard and sharp edge doesn't pain me anymore, I can even crack a lock with my fist.
Hello Sir, Kindly suggest from where i can buy knuckle conditioning bag? One which you are using can i find in amazon?
I live in Germany in a small town. So our most of shopping is from amazon.
Please suggest.
Regards,
I used to do knuckle pushups using salt over cloth at first my skin ripped off but after healing now it's an easy job for me to do push ups and bare hand wall punch even I broke one desk with bare hand punch
Dose this over time add strength to the distal phalangeal joints? I find those joints to be the weakest area of the fingers when striking with a closed fist.
Good tips 👍
It took 2 years for my hands to be conditioned without pain. Now I hit the bag harder than most people in the world and I am 58. It is a Incredible feeling and addictive. One caution be careful with your wrist. Hit it square and don’t roll your wrist and focusing on form. You lose form, then you should back off on the power or stop. Know when your wrist is fatigue and stop to prevent injury.
When i first started hitting my punching bag bear knuckle it hurt pretty bad,but when i was doing it for a while i felt pretty much nothing when hittng it.
I have observ using rubberised dummy reduce stenght of hitiing over time,it is good for snapping only like kyusho fist and hit
Before I started boxing I would only hit the bag without gloves. And that hardened my fists significantly. And my hands aren’t damaged or broken and in fact I think now my hands are way more durable and are less likely to be injured weather it be a boxing fight or a self defense scenario. I think it also helps me in boxing as well because I have heavy hands from the increased bone density. Which adds to the impact of my punches.
Sir Dehumanized same here.
That just dont work like that
@@carlosandres1835 you won’t get it until you do it