@@drakeeeboiiiLovesGDBattleCats Glitchtrap was a bit of a reverse because he was a lore character who is a glitch in lore but not an actual glitch in the game
The easiest way to explain Rec Room lore is simply this: *Lore=$$$* I get it, at the end of the day it’s a free game that does actually need to make money. But all the lore just boils down to buying some exclusive limited cosmetic. I’ve never spent a cent on this game which goes to show when looking at my cosmetics, absolutely no lore. I couldn’t grind for it if I tried.
Agreed, they should hire someone to just make stories! Have a beginning , have an end. And wrap everything togheter instead of making stories everywhere that dont make sense.
I'm sad what they did to the forbiddon one, it started off as a semi ominous threat but just got turned into a goofy villain and stupid parkour, I mean like even if instead of pressing a button to release utini from a cage (how the hell does that work?) They could of made us press a button on his back to make it explode or somthing (I'm aware theres better events that could be made but I assume rec room wanted to keep parkour and button presses)
Era 1: We thought about the lore and tried our best to make it good Era 2: Let’s try adding some actual lore in, it’s not that good but it works and we tried our best Era 3: We hired a 6-year-old for 50 cents/hour to make new lore just so we get more money lol
The problem is the cosmetics, it's obvious that rec room just wants to make money off of these cosmetics. They attach lore and a crazy token price and people will be like oh that's a rare cosmetic! So they buy it.
This video literally sums up almost all of my thoughts on this lore situation. Like, this game has been out for almost 7 years now. And they after 4 years, chose then to make (new) lore, and (as you mentioned) there was already some to begin with(which I never payed too much attention to). I never really got too invested in the lore just because I never really thought Rec Room would be a type of game to have deep “Fortnite-like”(as I like to call it) lore. And then back to what you also said: If the game just did all those said things for their next era of lore, that would be awesome! And I too would love to see something like that, even if I haven’t been too invested in RR lore to begin with! It’s also nice to see I’m not the only one who has these thoughts on the lore, including everyone else in the comments. 👍🏻
This is a well though out and broken down discussion on Rec Room's "lore". Any item related to the "lore" was either locked behind a rediculous paywall or by completing an RRO with S rank. We know nothing about S, nore anything about the Teller. We were told to "get our ciphers ready" and haven't really seen anything come from that. The first Invasion event was kinda cool and allowed you to get an exclusive set for free. However, the second event felt like it was just trying to sell you old rare items...
Also I know this is just a bug but it could be lore so here: there is a second dimension in rec room called the TFLS (the forbidden land of sorrow) and it’s really rare but sometimes if you get bad wifi and crash to your dorm you will spawn in your dorm, but something feels off, you spawn outside of your dorm and the sky is pitch black, the mirror isn’t there so there’s a quick entry but when I went to grab my camera to take a picture, “you do not have permission to blah blah blah (whatever it said)” and neither could I get out my maker pen and after 10 seconds roughly audios started to overlap “you win””welcome to rec room””up and over”! And at that point I noped the hell out of there but I haven’t seen it again but as I left the game I noticed through the window, there was something in the darkness
I was a loyal quest 1 player. Recroom for 3 years. Now they imported a visual glitch for oculus 1 and they verbally said they wouldn't fix it. So much for sinking 2000 into my account
Wait, so if the Forbidden One and Coach are connected and "one cannot exist without the other", does that mean that coach is just like dead now? Assuming that a little bit of parkour ended the whole thing and they won't bring him back later or something... I don't know, I'm just glad I'm not the only one upset about this. Phase one was just the right amount of context to the game, could explain it in a well thought out way, and then they whiffed the Forbidden One, and now... it's just an obvious cashgrab. I guess it's just another aspect of their early RROs that they threw out the window... 😕
Seeing as though The forsaken one bubbly is the Wild West and the forbidden one bubbly is the future, it may be safe to say that Forsaken is Forbidden’s predecessor. But the bubbly was released as showdown became a rec room original, so he may be tied to that. 10:55
I do have something now I’ve listen to a bunch of games lore Right so I know how people do lore my theory is that they’re throwing all the stuff at to us with intention to confuse us that’s what they want but then they are going to make something big like an event or a quest that will somehow answer most of are questions or some, and keep going with the 4th era or it could be a boss battle ending the 4th era that’s just my theory.
This is what I think the new lore is the teller is someone who says on everything and he knows what's going on always and S is someone trying to take over recroom and he starts by making small gateways in the roomiverse and forsaken is someone who helps coach by sending her information and building recroom originals
like literally rr is meant to hang out with friends and make ones, not to goddamn make a whole story about it that like 30% of the commynity actually cares
heres a suggestion about the forsaken one, maybe he was a staff member, and coach just abandoned him or stopped working with him. maybe the forsaken one is the forbidden one's cousin?
I think to make everything better, let’s just have the forbidden one kill all the other characters in a “actually cool boss fight” and then we’re just left with the good old og.
I just made this theory that if the forbidden one is related to coach it also says “one cannot exist without the other” basically meaning either coach is dead because the forbidden one is dead or coach is alive because the forbidden ones alive
The forsaken one is probably the bugged shadow figure who felt like rec room missed the whole point of being a bug not a physical thing in rec room making him forsaken
Would be better if they make games about it like rooms that tells us their stories. You get an item there and go to the next one and idk... at least you have somewhere to start
"the forbidden one" would have been a cool lore story thing about rec room, if they did it correctly... the thought of something having been watching you from the start of the game, watching you do your activities while you're oblivious to it, possibly taking notes about you to try and figure out a way to take over rec room (they could have even made a part of the lore where it DOES take over rec room) the thought of it being a rouge glitch is also scary, cementing the fact that everything is fake, and not real (cause i think it's kind of implied that we're supposed to be teens in a college dorm, everything is supposed to be "real life") . they really messed up with this, it could have been a cool character.
i feel like the lore should’ve been like some student putting cryptic papers in places and then guess what there would be some student causing mayhem in the college doing shit he’s not supposed to like messing with backstage and shit like that that would’ve actually made sense
I'm guessing Rec Room is trying to be all cryptic with all the enemies being mysterious gods so that 2 year olds would steal there parents credit cards in hopes of being the first one to discover something I hope that The Forbidden one, S and the teller will both be in shadow inc or whatever it was called and they have actual boss fights or something for an event, I did like the vibe of when The forbidden one claimed the hero cave atleast, maybe we will have a whole bad guy syndicate where there are "missions" (like short quests but it does not take place in a school play and the rules of the game are diffrent to the quests) and once you do all of them you get to fight the boss (Fragment of the forbidden one), once you defeat the boss you get an item, when the event is over there will be a youtube video from Rec Room talking about how the forbidden one is finally defeated by the brave heros or something I don't want any "Buy S's Sword Skin to beat the boss in one hit" or "Teller's Top hat to unlock a secret room" Just actual clothes based on the event so you can get a souvenir and not be a sucker buying overpriced "lore" items Just some simple less scummy events to beat ahadow ink and be done with it, returning to the ol school plays and coach speculation
This is my personal theory. I think that coach is the creator of the rec room universe, and created the maker pen so everyone could make their own part of said universe, I also belive that the forbidden one used to be part of coach but was ejected out, so he tried to get his revenge by trying to destroy the recverse. I feel like Inkinc is a company that is owned by coach, and that shadow Inc is another company owned by the forbidden one, and H is an employee. I also think that the teller was created by shadow Inc. And finally I belive that S is a rouge Shadow Inc employee. This is just a theory but if you have any evidence to prove or disprove I would be very interested to see it.
Dude the science department is a huge letdown. Like imagine an event in which the science department discovers a virus that corrupts rooms, and every single quest can be turned into an extremely hard version of that said quest, (because of the room corruption virus) and as a reward you get special clothes for beating it. And maybe some player-made rooms get augmented versions just like the rro quests.
I strongly believe the forsaken one is the forbidden one's brother. I think this because their names both start with the letter "f" and sound alike. They both also wear a bucket on their head.
I Like To Think That The Title Screen Is The Void Below The Maps, The Soulless Bottom Of A World. And The Forbidden One Was Banished To The Void And Found The Title Screens After He Glitched Through The Bottom Of The Void.
i'd love to see more about coach. coach is really mysterious, so it would be cool to see SOME stuff. all this other "lore" is just stupid, ohh scary hacker!!!! omg REDACTED!!! why tf are there scary hackers at whats supposed to be a college campus
I was there for that Forbidden One corse where we keep hitting the button at the end of the change play field. I'm sure there was a boss fight there at the end and that it glitched so we never got to see that segment of the event.
I’m sad because Rec Room just released a new update that ripped apart the code and textures for my Oculus Quest 1, unfortunately they will never patch it.
watching companies try and harness the fun of args and gaming urban legends but failing miserably is always funny but also really sad because it shows how out of touch companies are with their communities
Stupid lore recap: 1. The forbidden one is fine... I guess. He breaks the Rec Room boundaries and was mid effort. 2. S is a hacker who brings items to his own shops. He's not good, but he is a nice hacker with this whole "rare item return" thing for this gen players. 3. The teller I've been confused about. Accordingly, if you used money in a limited amount time, There would be real life coordinates, real life random things, and another free item? Why?
I want rec room make a Forbidden fights back and make it cooler like new monsters that are hard to defeat and a Awesome boss battle and when u load in to rec room u will see purple eyes in the background and when u are about to finish loading he makes a big purple smile and in the level some of the monsters will have a big purple bucket on them and the rest is up to rec room(if u here this rec room pls don't make a Parkour In less u just doing a collapse on the floor)
the teller told me that your fortune is that you should use code bvrr. thanks for watching
Do you think it sucks because its too complicated lol
new potatokingmama upload
Well they got my fortune wrong
SONIC
Ok I will
me when a corporation tries to cram in lore to capitalize on a glitch
Glitch trap in the back of the room
“Backrooms”
Wasn’t a glitch
Literally an edited image
I guarantee that this is because of Jay
Because the second he went into that team this shit happened
@@drakeeeboiiiLovesGDBattleCats Glitchtrap was a bit of a reverse because he was a lore character who is a glitch in lore but not an actual glitch in the game
it can be done well, usually not tho
"-removed the forbidden one" reminds be of when mojang put "-removed herobrine" in the patch notes, good times
THATS WHAT I SAID!
same.
It feels like the forbidden one is Herobrine's less successful sibling or something.
The easiest way to explain Rec Room lore is simply this: *Lore=$$$*
I get it, at the end of the day it’s a free game that does actually need to make money. But all the lore just boils down to buying some exclusive limited cosmetic. I’ve never spent a cent on this game which goes to show when looking at my cosmetics, absolutely no lore. I couldn’t grind for it if I tried.
Agreed, they should hire someone to just make stories! Have a beginning , have an end. And wrap everything togheter instead of making stories everywhere that dont make sense.
Ah yes! Togheter
@@SaadGamerTubeHD you got it wrong, it's actually tohghether
@@DiorlandRippRBLX nope, it’s Together
@@SaadGamerTubeHD its a joke dude
@@Tlyt. k
I'm sad what they did to the forbiddon one, it started off as a semi ominous threat but just got turned into a goofy villain and stupid parkour, I mean like even if instead of pressing a button to release utini from a cage (how the hell does that work?) They could of made us press a button on his back to make it explode or somthing (I'm aware theres better events that could be made but I assume rec room wanted to keep parkour and button presses)
Also there’s hidden messages in the tfo parkour
He's not Goofy if you really look into He's back story He's story has to do with sickness like cancer, death and ptsd
Era 1: We thought about the lore and tried our best to make it good
Era 2: Let’s try adding some actual lore in, it’s not that good but it works and we tried our best
Era 3: We hired a 6-year-old for 50 cents/hour to make new lore just so we get more money lol
Was a nice surprise to find myself in here LOL, thanks for the mentions! 🤗
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The problem is the cosmetics, it's obvious that rec room just wants to make money off of these cosmetics. They attach lore and a crazy token price and people will be like oh that's a rare cosmetic! So they buy it.
You explained S perfectly. He only exists to rerelease items
i love that bvr is speaking out against the bad things in recroom, we needed a big youtuber to help with this
I feel like rec room lore is harder to figure out than FNAF at this point
Not even Matt Patt can make this make sense.
five days in your dorm room
is this where you wanna be
@@stupidrobotproductions627 why do you wanna stay?
@@WillowFaded five days in your dorm rooommmm
The teller’s entire lore is that he steals your mother’s credit card
This video literally sums up almost all of my thoughts on this lore situation.
Like, this game has been out for almost 7 years now. And they after 4 years, chose then to make (new) lore, and (as you mentioned) there was already some to begin with(which I never payed too much attention to).
I never really got too invested in the lore just because I never really thought Rec Room would be a type of game to have deep “Fortnite-like”(as I like to call it) lore.
And then back to what you also said: If the game just did all those said things for their next era of lore, that would be awesome! And I too would love to see something like that, even if I haven’t been too invested in RR lore to begin with!
It’s also nice to see I’m not the only one who has these thoughts on the lore, including everyone else in the comments. 👍🏻
This is a well though out and broken down discussion on Rec Room's "lore". Any item related to the "lore" was either locked behind a rediculous paywall or by completing an RRO with S rank. We know nothing about S, nore anything about the Teller. We were told to "get our ciphers ready" and haven't really seen anything come from that. The first Invasion event was kinda cool and allowed you to get an exclusive set for free. However, the second event felt like it was just trying to sell you old rare items...
I can agree, rec room was mostly about fun. But since they crammed lore & stuff. Its kind of dumb.
Also I know this is just a bug but it could be lore so here: there is a second dimension in rec room called the TFLS (the forbidden land of sorrow) and it’s really rare but sometimes if you get bad wifi and crash to your dorm you will spawn in your dorm, but something feels off, you spawn outside of your dorm and the sky is pitch black, the mirror isn’t there so there’s a quick entry but when I went to grab my camera to take a picture, “you do not have permission to blah blah blah (whatever it said)” and neither could I get out my maker pen and after 10 seconds roughly audios started to overlap “you win””welcome to rec room””up and over”! And at that point I noped the hell out of there but I haven’t seen it again but as I left the game I noticed through the window, there was something in the darkness
I was a loyal quest 1 player. Recroom for 3 years. Now they imported a visual glitch for oculus 1 and they verbally said they wouldn't fix it. So much for sinking 2000 into my account
Wait, so if the Forbidden One and Coach are connected and "one cannot exist without the other", does that mean that coach is just like dead now? Assuming that a little bit of parkour ended the whole thing and they won't bring him back later or something...
I don't know, I'm just glad I'm not the only one upset about this. Phase one was just the right amount of context to the game, could explain it in a well thought out way, and then they whiffed the Forbidden One, and now... it's just an obvious cashgrab. I guess it's just another aspect of their early RROs that they threw out the window... 😕
rec room moderation is a confusing mess and it makes me sad
I'm calling it right now, Rec Room just wants Game Theory's attention so they can get more popular
Seeing as though The forsaken one bubbly is the Wild West and the forbidden one bubbly is the future, it may be safe to say that Forsaken is Forbidden’s predecessor. But the bubbly was released as showdown became a rec room original, so he may be tied to that. 10:55
I really agree with you and the fnaf lore makes more sense than the rec room lore
that 2.6 million tokens sitting there in the background makes me wanna die
I do have something now I’ve listen to a bunch of games lore Right so I know how people do lore my theory is that they’re throwing all the stuff at to us with intention to confuse us that’s what they want but then they are going to make something big like an event or a quest that will somehow answer most of are questions or some, and keep going with the 4th era or it could be a boss battle ending the 4th era that’s just my theory.
Maybe S and H are LITERALLY part of Shadow Inc, bc (S)(H)adow inc. So then there would also be people called: A, D, O, W and maybe I, N and C.
As a certified lore expert i am disappointed
its great shame the new lore is utter disgrace,lets just pray that it will be better
Wise words ZIETO, wise words
Rec Room is just forgetting that the entire game takes place in a college campus.
10:50 this guy comes from Tydalwavee s own character if you haven’t seen his “ ForbiddenOne movie “
This is what I think the new lore is the teller is someone who says on everything and he knows what's going on always and S is someone trying to take over recroom and he starts by making small gateways in the roomiverse and forsaken is someone who helps coach by sending her information and building recroom originals
like literally rr is meant to hang out with friends and make ones, not to goddamn make a whole story about it that like 30% of the commynity actually cares
Fan of forbidden one is to pray for his welcome with a purple bucket.
Make sure ur room will be purple.
Have fun.
I’m just praying that somehow in someway they tie everything all together. I don’t know how but I pray it does
S. exists to make you buy tokens.
H. exists to make you buy tokens.
I don’t know why the forbidden one didn’t use code BVRR. How rude
heres a suggestion about the forsaken one, maybe he was a staff member, and coach just abandoned him or stopped working with him. maybe the forsaken one is the forbidden one's cousin?
I think to make everything better, let’s just have the forbidden one kill all the other characters in a “actually cool boss fight” and then we’re just left with the good old og.
I just made this theory that if the forbidden one is related to coach it also says “one cannot exist without the other” basically meaning either coach is dead because the forbidden one is dead or coach is alive because the forbidden ones alive
The forsaken one is probably the bugged shadow figure who felt like rec room missed the whole point of being a bug not a physical thing in rec room making him forsaken
Would be better if they make games about it like rooms that tells us their stories. You get an item there and go to the next one and idk... at least you have somewhere to start
BVR lore: BVR will be really sad if you do not use code BVRR!
man, cant wait to pull up and see the ‘the sussy one’
This is my issue with modern day rec room. There is no need for lore. Just let it be a fun goofy game.
Idea: there is a hacker who switches to a new rro each day/week and adds something new
oh no my lore that is becoming really complicated and and overlaps to make it super confusing senses are tingling (thanks fnaf and kingdom hearts)
I can't believe they had a Herobrine with the Forbidden One and messed it up that badly.
The forbidden one is the pure raw definition of "its not a bug, Its a feature."
I’m pretty sure you had to have the 20’000 token necklace And the book to claim the black and white one
We just gonna ignore him having 2M+ RecTokens, like wtf.
You know when it says “Ready Your Cipher” for the S lore with the teller, I think it’s a Bill Cipher reference
When people give lore to a game that never intended to have lore:
BVR: Rec room lore is mess
FNAF LORE: Allow me to introduce myself
Personally I love lore so I was able to work with it to find a theory or two but I understand how it would look like purple dookie
The lore exists just so people buy tokens for just some items
Honestly, I like how with the teller it encourages you to go through a bunch of stuff for lore, letting you do stuff, and yes, for 10$, you broke?
2:35 MA LOOK IM ON TV!
"the forbidden one" would have been a cool lore story thing about rec room, if they did it correctly... the thought of something having been watching you from the start of the game, watching you do your activities while you're oblivious to it, possibly taking notes about you to try and figure out a way to take over rec room (they could have even made a part of the lore where it DOES take over rec room) the thought of it being a rouge glitch is also scary, cementing the fact that everything is fake, and not real (cause i think it's kind of implied that we're supposed to be teens in a college dorm, everything is supposed to be "real life") . they really messed up with this, it could have been a cool character.
i feel like the lore should’ve been like some student putting cryptic papers in places and then guess what there would be some student causing mayhem in the college doing shit he’s not supposed to like messing with backstage and shit like that
that would’ve actually made sense
I'm guessing Rec Room is trying to be all cryptic with all the enemies being mysterious gods so that 2 year olds would steal there parents credit cards in hopes of being the first one to discover something
I hope that The Forbidden one, S and the teller will both be in shadow inc or whatever it was called and they have actual boss fights or something for an event, I did like the vibe of when The forbidden one claimed the hero cave atleast, maybe we will have a whole bad guy syndicate where there are "missions" (like short quests but it does not take place in a school play and the rules of the game are diffrent to the quests) and once you do all of them you get to fight the boss (Fragment of the forbidden one), once you defeat the boss you get an item, when the event is over there will be a youtube video from Rec Room talking about how the forbidden one is finally defeated by the brave heros or something
I don't want any "Buy S's Sword Skin to beat the boss in one hit" or "Teller's Top hat to unlock a secret room" Just actual clothes based on the event so you can get a souvenir and not be a sucker buying overpriced "lore" items
Just some simple less scummy events to beat ahadow ink and be done with it, returning to the ol school plays and coach speculation
i might make my own lore to just add to the confusion
I also do that it’s fun
College storyline > Teller / forbidden one lore
When rec room first made the makerpen, I created a company called sh4dow inc. which sold strange and possibly illegal things
11:49 ok I'm gonna go make up my own story
This is my personal theory.
I think that coach is the creator of the rec room universe, and created the maker pen so everyone could make their own part of said universe, I also belive that the forbidden one used to be part of coach but was ejected out, so he tried to get his revenge by trying to destroy the recverse. I feel like Inkinc is a company that is owned by coach, and that shadow Inc is another company owned by the forbidden one, and H is an employee. I also think that the teller was created by shadow Inc. And finally I belive that S is a rouge Shadow Inc employee.
This is just a theory but if you have any evidence to prove or disprove I would be very interested to see it.
I am with you Billehbawb.... what the heck, If they need help to write some backstory they should just ask....
i like the era one lore alot, its short but sweet. it makes sense and really suits rec room in my opinion. era one will now forever stay my headcanon
"H" works for Shadow inc. and maybe "S" does too because, "S" "H" adow inc.
Yo that’s not bad actually
Which means there might be an "A" " D" "O" and "W"
This video is too true 💀
Idea: S’s motivation is just to make money by hacking stuff back into the game and all the money just goes to S
I though I read somewhere that someone higher up said that RecRoom wasn’t a college/school
Update, under Wrighteous’s Iceberg video, Star Centurion commented that it’s not a school, just a recreational center 😅
Dude the science department is a huge letdown. Like imagine an event in which the science department discovers a virus that corrupts rooms, and every single quest can be turned into an extremely hard version of that said quest, (because of the room corruption virus) and as a reward you get special clothes for beating it. And maybe some player-made rooms get augmented versions just like the rro quests.
Bro they could’ve kept the forbidden one and it would wayyyyyy better
Also how both bubbly items were said to leave after rec con but came back during invasion event
I strongly believe the forsaken one is the forbidden one's brother. I think this because their names both start with the letter "f" and sound alike. They both also wear a bucket on their head.
“Casually has 4 million tokens”
I Like To Think That The Title Screen Is The Void Below The Maps, The Soulless Bottom Of A World. And The Forbidden One Was Banished To The Void And Found The Title Screens After He Glitched Through The Bottom Of The Void.
i'd love to see more about coach. coach is really mysterious, so it would be cool to see SOME stuff.
all this other "lore" is just stupid, ohh scary hacker!!!! omg REDACTED!!!
why tf are there scary hackers at whats supposed to be a college campus
Elseware era makes me wanna 360° my neck
Just realised you were billehbawb, loved your old videos and I really like the new videos
"you play Rec room, right?"
My parents:
*No*
where does the bite of 87 fit in to all of this im confused
Rec room does NOT need lore
I was there for that Forbidden One corse where we keep hitting the button at the end of the change play field. I'm sure there was a boss fight there at the end and that it glitched so we never got to see that segment of the event.
hopefully the final stage of lore will tell some facts and do some extra hints for a big event with the lore
I’m sad because Rec Room just released a new update that ripped apart the code and textures for my Oculus Quest 1, unfortunately they will never patch it.
watching companies try and harness the fun of args and gaming urban legends but failing miserably is always funny but also really sad because it shows how out of touch companies are with their communities
The orange guy is the hero in the map that Title made
I think the forsaken one isn’t actually a character he’s just supposed to be another flavor of the forbidden one bubbly
I'm not even gonna try to explain the lore, it's a spaghetti
I couldn’t agree more
My theory is the letter characters will spell shadow and then you’ll fight shadow inc with the letters as chair men
i think the forsaken one is just a bubbly to go along with the forbiddon one bubbly with the purple and orange like the default paintball pistol skins
the lore is an excuse to resell old items and overprice other things
I knew already Rec room is technically college, but I never knew what the forbidden one was so thanks
The last time I played recroom was in 2021 but now I just started playing recroom like 4 weeks ago.
Stupid lore recap:
1. The forbidden one is fine... I guess. He breaks the Rec Room boundaries and was mid effort.
2. S is a hacker who brings items to his own shops. He's not good, but he is a nice hacker with this whole "rare item return" thing for this gen players.
3. The teller I've been confused about. Accordingly, if you used money in a limited amount time, There would be real life coordinates, real life random things, and another free item? Why?
This video is the reason why i support BVR.
The forbidden ones lore is really dark if you really know it and even has to do with sickness, death and ptsd
I want rec room make a Forbidden fights back and make it cooler like new monsters that are hard to defeat and a Awesome boss battle and when u load in to rec room u will see purple eyes in the background and when u are about to finish loading he makes a big purple smile and in the level some of the monsters will have a big purple bucket on them and the rest is up to rec room(if u here this rec room pls don't make a Parkour In less u just doing a collapse on the floor)
i kinda understand it like the forsaken one is like still evil but he wants to kill that forbidden one and uhh