Run in the Inov8 G300 best trail shoes I’ve ever bought! I’m a big lad so like the support over distance. Agree the lockdown is insane and they are just such a comfortable shoe. Love them!
I'm really glad you're enjoying the Trailfly ultras Mark 😊 It's a shoe that has really surprised me and its a great shoe for long distance. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
A great video and exactly my experience. I used the SG4 wide and the inov8 is heavier on paper but doesn’t feel it and like you mention, was much comfier out the box. I’ll be using the inov8 and a pair of la sportivas in cape wrath in august. Pricey but in my opinion, a worthy investment so far.
Really glad you enjoyed the review and you're getting on with the Trailfly ultras 👍 Best of luck with the Cape Wrath and thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Great comparison Loyd. Like you I ran 1000’s miles in all versions of the SG. It was the toe box that finally made me look elsewhere and end up in Topo. Very tempted to try the Trailfly, but either the price needs to come down or a new colour way so that my wife doesn’t either mind or notice them !!
Thanks Dean it's appreciated 😊 Really glad you've found a shoe brand that works for you mate. I'm looking forward to getting the MTN Racer 2 it should be a pretty good shoe. I think you're right the Trailfly ultra would be a difficult shoe to sneak in to the collection 😂 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel mate 🙏
Great video Loyd. My TrailFly took about 50km to fully break in. I agree what you say about the shoe and on the whole I love them, but I’m looking forward to where they go in version 2, it feels like they can shed some weight and they can feel a bit cumbersome at times. I also have a pair of On CloudUltra’s which I didn’t think I’d like , but I love them. A little more precise than the Inov8. They use the cushioning to keep your foot at a stable position and feels a bit like a road running shoe.
Thanks Benedict I'm really glad you enjoyed the video 👍 It will be interesting to see where Inov-8 take the shoe in the next model. Hope a few grams and a few pounds! Lighter with a bit of luck 😊 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its appreciated 🙏
My Trail Fly are on the way! It’ll be interesting to see how durable the graphene sole is through this summer. They’re a hefty price but it won’t be long before that technology filters down right through the Inov8 line and I think early adopters are probably paying for the license to incorporate graphene which wouldn’t have been cheap to secure I’m sure. Happy to take a punt on your recommendation and fingers crossed we’ll both be crossing the finish line in Chamonix in August wearing bright green hoofs!! Cheers for vs piece Loyd and great to catch up last Friday pal!
Great to catch up mate 😊 I really hope you enjoy your Trailfly ultras and it works for you. Let's cross all our fingers and toes mate and hope we get out to Chamonix this year! 🏃♂️🏃♂️⛰️ Thanks for watching 🙏
Thank you for the great Comparison. I'm doing a lot of Shorter trail Runs with the ocasional long run(so far 39k 2400m @7:50 hrs was longest). I really like my Hoka SG3 and SG4 shoes and usually don't have Stability issues with them. I usually Run on Jungle trails with the occasional River Tracing Sections. I've always been very Happy with the Grip of the Shoes. They work really well except for Very steep and Muddy trails (but then usually I'm one of the last to slip) and the most slippery wet stones with algae on top. I have to agree I liked the Upper Material on my SG3 more. After the Test I would be interested in trying the Trailfly but the price is quite Steep for someone who is just doing it for fun and not trying to win the races
Thanks Matt that's really appreciated 👍 The SG3'S are a great shoe. Like you said maybe not that great in the mud but brilliant on pretty much everything else. I really wish Hoka didn't make the changes they made to the upper and fit but nevermind. Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
I'm the opposite Daz and I've never really got on with Inov-8 shoes but the Trailfly ultra really works for me when it comes to distance. You're right about the price though and it's such a shame 😔 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the nice review. I just bought the standard Hoka’s and they were too narrow, so I bought the wide. From the appearance there’s not much difference, however if you try them on, there’s a world of difference.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's really not that much wider but it dies have more volume in the toe box 👍 Glad the wider option worked out for you and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great video Lloyd. I like the Trailfly but agree it needs to drop a little weight and could be so much better. Once the miles stack up then you feel the extra load in my opinion especially when mud comes into play. The responsiveness and comfort is great despite having a slight firmness to it. Almost there for me. Works for me between marathon and 50k. I also paid £120 for these not sure I would go £170. Interested to see how the new Salomon compares against this as quite a bit lighter and cheaper.
Thanks Daniel really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 You're so right, the Trailfly ultra is almost there and I'm looking forward to see where inov8 go with the shoe! Also £120 is a really good price for the shoe, bargain 👍 Thanks for watching 🙏
Great video, as always. I agree that the move from SG3 to SG4 was not really an upgrade, though the upper is definitely more durable (I just started to break through at the flex point at 400 miles). I also agree with a lot of the viewers that the Evo SG is a superior shoe. More squishy, but somehow more connected, considerably lighter and faster, incredibly grippy, and the Kevlar upper is invincible. Going to try holding out to see what SG 5 or Evo SG 2 look like, but will definitely check out the Trailfly before getting a new pair. Thanks for the awesome content!
Thanks Kent really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 The Evo is definitely a good version of the Speedgoat and in my opinion a better shoe than the SG4's because it based off the SG3's platform 😊 It's going to be really interesting to see the Speedgoat 5 and to see if Hoka make an Evo version. I have no idea when the shoe is going to be launched though? Haven't seen it in store yet, its not in next seasons catalogue? It's a mystery! I think it's be put back because of all the crazy stuff going on in the World at the moment 🤔 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel as always Kent, it's really appreciated 🙏
Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed the review. That's a shame because the Trailfly ultra is a nice feeling shoe 😊 Inov-8 clearly need to focus so attention on the US by the sounds of it. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated, hope you find some to try 🙏
Thanks Martin, I'm glad you thought so. I'm hoping to get hold of some VJ Ultras soon to test and review on the channel. It looks like a very interesting shoe 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
Great comparison review, Loyd of 2 popular makes. It would be interesting to see how you compare the ride and fit of the inov8 to the Altra Olympus 4. It’s getting some great reviews too. Thanks for keeping us connected to trail running during Covid! 🙂
The Evo Speedgoat is definitely better than the 4's because it's built off a the SG3's platform. In my eyes the 3's were a lot better than the 4's! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great review thank you. Liking all the comments below. I did try on a pair of the Inov8's a couple of weeks ago at their new store. They did feel super comfy but also quite heavy. I'm a 10.5 or 11 which is quite a jump up in weight from my Torrents and Saucony Peregrine 10's and 11's. I'll try and find a pair of SG 4 or the Evo's to try. I'm doing the Lakeland 50 in July so now is the time to try something new or deiced to stick with the Torrents. I've done nearly 500 km in the Torrents but I do use the Inov8 insoles in them which make a really big difference.
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed the review. The Trailfly ultra is quite a heavy shoe especially if you're use to the weight of a Torrent 👍 To be fair I don't think it runs heavy though. You're right about the Inov-8 insoles, they're really good! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏
Great review comparison. I have both now and prefer the Speedgoat for my purposes which is not running but hiking every day. I also love the weird Hoka TenNine as I have back and knee issues and need that cushion. I want to like the Inov’s but they just don’t fit my feet as well and I have had to use thinner socks. I had to return the first pair in my usual size 12 for a 12.5 and still crowding in the toe box. They do not have the cushion that the Speedgoat have on the trail in my opinion but will be great for muddy conditions and that’s why I got them and curiosity. I am still trying them out. For runners with little musculoskeletal issues the Inov’s will probably be great.
Really glad you enjoyed the review. That's the thing with running shoes it's so personal and what works for one might not work for the other 👍 I personally think the TenNine was a bit of a gimmick shoe for Hoka, especially as a running shoe! Maybe it works as a walking shoe but I'm not convinced 🤔 Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks - I wore my Speedgoat this morning, great shoes and my go to for the moment! The TenNine does work well for me as a hiking shoe since I have knee and back issues but maybe not for others. Thanks for the reply and run on!
I took the plunge and forked out the £170 for the G-Flys. For me they had to outperform my go-to shoe the La Sportiva Mutant which I’ve relied on for several years. They did. I’m particularly impressed by how instantly they stabilise as my foot lands. I just need them to last £170 worth of mileage
That's great news and I'm glad you're enjoying your Trailfly ultras 👍 For a deep, cushioned midsoled trail shoe it does feel pretty connected and stable underfoot 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Good review and interesting for me. I'm a SG fan and on my 3rd pair of SG3s, I also have Hoka road shoes, from Clifton to Arahi and most recently Rincon 2. One thing I find with all Hokas is I have to run them with Superfeet carbon insoles to avoid blisters. I ran for 5hrs yesterday in Peregrine 10s, I like them but IMO, they are a shoe for shorter distance, at least for me. So an interesting dilemma for my next long distance trail shoe because the only issue I have with the SG is that feeling of disconnection sometimes and I find it most prominent when running over roots. I get that the SG4 might have changed a bit and I'd love to try that Inov8 but no way at that price difference.
It is a big shame about the price of the Trailfly ultras because I think it's putting a lot of people off trying them out, which I totally understand at £170!!😲 I've run the Peregrine 10's up to 50 miles and I found it OK and I was planing to use it at the Arc of Attrition this year until it was cancelled but I suppose we're all different. The problem is the more depth of cushioning you put under your foot for comfort the more ground feel you'll loose, so it's all about compromise. What do you value more, comfort or ground feel Ian? 🤔 Thanks for watching and supporting as always 🙏
I think for up to 50k and faster trail marathons, I prefer ground feel over that comfort. The irony is, when you're tired from the longer stuff and want comfort, the extra sole means you're more likely to trip 😀 One thing I haven't tried is the Peregrines with the Superfeet insoles.
Brilliant review Loyd. Im not surprised you went with the Inov8 as I remember your initial review of the SG4 not being so favourable compared to the SG3 and I would agree 100%. As you rightly mentioned though £170 starting price for a shoe is well off my mark. Its funny though too as without the Hoka the likes of Inov8 and others would have stuck with their same old formula ;-) There wouldn't be a Trailfly if there hadn't been a SG.
It is funny Phil and I say this all the time when it comes to Hoka. Back in the day when Hoka started making deep, cushioned midsoled shoes all the other brands laughed at them! Isn't it amazing how all the brands are now replicating the same design and calling it there own 🤔 I must be honest I never thought I'd see the day when Inov-8 made a deep cushioned trail running shoes! Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
great review! was it intentional you didn't mention the evo speedgoat? oh and of course the inevitable question: when do you expect the sg 5 to drop? asking for a friend...
No not intentional Ozenfant 😊 The video was a comparison of the standard Speedgoat 4 👍 There seems to be a lot of love for the Evo Speedgoat on the channel. Its a better shoe because its built of the same platform as the SG3's 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, hope you're fit and well 🙏
Who'd have thought, Inov8 taking that crown of go to long distance trail shoe from the Speedgoat? 🤯 I definitely fall into the camp of would love to try the Ultra G300 Max, but just not will to fork out that sort of money on a trail shoe. Great comparison video though. 👍
I know Stuart I can't quite believe it myself but the Trailfly ultra does handle the long stuff well 👍 Totally agree though it need to shed a few "Pounds" when it comes to the weight and the price 😊 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Top video 👍 Love these Inov-8 for longer runs - you just seam not to get tired feet with them. Regarding price... yesss... but still worth it for me... will spend less for something else... 🤩
Thanks Roland 👍 The Trailfly ultra is a great shoe for long distance and you're right about the tired feet thing 🤔 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel as always 🙏
Inov8 are the best long distance trail shoes I have ever used. For the fells they have too much in stack height and I would stick to x talons, but for a long trail ultra superb!
Really glad you're enjoying your Trailfly ultras. You're right it is a great shoe for running long distance Joseph 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I’m probably going to buy some TrailFlys when my local store gets them. The price seems expensive, but graphene is so durable. I bet they last twice as long as other shoes at least. I have 200 miles on my SG3s and 280 miles on my TerraUltras. The outsole on the TerraUltras is doing better than the SG3s.
Awesome John, it's a good shoe that's for sure but you're right it is pricey! If the Trailfly ultra holds up like inov8 say it will then I suppose its worth it 👍 The Graphene rubber is very impressive isn't it! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
Haven't tried Inov-8 but it looks nice. Been using Hoka Torrent Xtrerra which works great up to 50k. Probably use speedgoat or speedgoat evo for anything longer
Thanks Andrew that's really appreciated 👍 There's a lot of viewers commenting the same thing. It's a shame because the price is putting a lot of people off trying the shoe which I totally understand 😔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Have you tried the Hoka Mafate 2 yet Loyd? I went for those over the Speedgoat’s as the upper is supposed to flex to the foot shape. Despite my initial reservations of Hoka’s claims, it actually does seem to be the case and they’ve become more comfortable after a few miles of wearing them
I tried the first version of the Mafate and really didn't get on with it Anthony. I found it felt a bit flat, a bit stiff and unresponsive to run in 🤔 I haven't tried the latest version so maybe things have changed 😊 Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Great video ! One question : maybe there is an update on the inov8 in the meantime, but their web page states a stack of 25mm/19mm. Do you know, if this changed ?
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 😊 I'm pretty sure the stack hight in the video is the complete stack hight including the outsole as well. 25mm/19mm is the actual depth of the cushioning 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
The Evo is a much better Speedgoat than the current SG4's because it's built off the same platform as the SG3's, which in my eyes was a much better shoe 👍 Thanks for watching 🙏
If you compared the EVO Speedgoat, rather than the normal Speedgoat, that comes in at a similar price point (£150) but is 30g lighter. The EVO is 285g in my UK size 10. The Hoka tapered toe box is annoying but 80g per shoe weight diff over a 50 or 100 miler is significant I think. Inov-8 need to reduce the weight and price before I'm interested.
The Evo Speedgoat is a much better shoe than the current SG4's because it's built off the same platform as the SG3's, which in my opinion was a much better shoe 👍 You're right about the weight and price of the Trailfly ultras. If it lost a bit of weight and a few "pounds" it would definitely improve the shoe. Thanks for watching 🙏
It's a crazy price Beth and such a shame because its putting a lot of runners off a good shoe 😔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
Awesome Steve 👍 That's what running is all about, finding out what works best for you, it's all so personal 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated!
You should probably try to always size-up in Hokas! Most companies base their lasts on the US measurement, which in Hokas is only 0.5 higher than the UK they list, however in reality the US size should be 1 higher than the UK size. Which means you should probably always opt for a UK 10 in Hokas, as well as New Balance and Adidas actually, both of which have also done this bad sizing translation. If you are going to review the New Balance FuelCell Rebel V2, you should no doubt go up at least half a size as they are very short. I'm usually a short US10 (UK 9.5 in NB) and the Rebel V2 truly is a half size shorter than it's supposed to be by the US sizing.
You're right the US sizing on some brands does come up different compared to some brands but that doesn't always meen you need to size up, it really depends on the model of shoe 👍 All the shoes are made in different factories and using different shoe lasts. For instance I've always been a uk10 in a Speedgoat but a uk10 in a Torrent 2 is way to big, so I run the Torrent 2 in a UK 9.5 😊 I've run in a lot of Hoka shoes over the years and I've had shoes that are uk9.5, uk10 and even a uk10.5!! Again you're right about adidas and NB both brands size up really small and I've even had to go up a full size in a some adidas shoes just to get the right fit 😲 Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
I reckon.....the soon to be released Saucony Endorphin Trail will be as good or better than both, granted outsoles on these two are BRILLIANT and the new Saucony with ProTrack is a step down. But.....PowerRun PB midsole will be bomber
The Endorphin Trail looks like an interesting shoe that's for sure but it isn't cheap either at £160! 😲 If tried the shoe on and the PWRRUN Pb is very different in the Trail shoe midsole compared to the Endorphin road shoes 👍 Looking forward to trying them though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Have you tried the Scarpa Spin Ultra Lloyd ? Running my first 47miler in a few months and I have struggled with shoe selections. Thought it would be Hoka Mafate Speed..... but they make my feet sore. Might have another look at the Speedgoat.
I haven't tried any Scarpa shoes unfortunately Simon. I have had a few viewers ask about them so I'm going to try and test some of their trail shoes this year. I think their running shoes have come a long way over the last few years. If I'm honest I've never really like the Mafate, I found it a bit stiff and clunky to run in! 🤔 Hope you find a shoe that works and best of luck with your race 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure many thanks. I bought the Trailfly Ultra and have ebayed the Mafate. Looking forward to giving them a proper whirl this week at some point.
If it had been the SG3's I'd of definitely gone with the Speedgoats Ron but I never got on as well with version 4 😔 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Great vid. Totally agree with the speedgoat traction in the mud, I live in The Cotswolds and ran today and it wasn’t great. What would you suggest for a wide foot, max cushion, muddy run?
Thanks Max, really glad you enjoyed it! Yeap the Speedgoat isn't great in heavy mud but it handles everything else really well 😊 As far as other shoe, you say you're wide in foot shape but the Speedgoat definitely isn't wide? The Trailfly ultra would definitely give more grip in the mud than the Speedgoat and its got more width in the Toe box. I'd also take a look at the Topo MTN Racer. It also has good width and a nice luggy outsole that's coated in Vibram megagrip rubber 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thanks. I have the wide Speedgoat so it is slightly better. I generally find standard trainers a little narrow but I’m not a fully wide size. I’m a bit in between annoyingly.
20% off is a much more realistic price for the shoe I think. At that sort of price I think Inov-8 would have sold a lot more shoes 🤔 Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Would you say it would be worth getting some of the Inov-8s if I've already got a pair of Evo Speedgoats? I'd messaged Inov-8 a couple of months ago about looking for a shoe that would feel slightly more stable on rocky/technical terrain than my Evo Speedgoats and they told me to look out for a new shoe coming out - turns out the new shoe was the Trailfly and it seems from your review they're pretty similar. Have you got any recommendations for a slightly more technical shoe that doesn't go as far as being an out and out fell shoe will little cushioning? I'm wondering if the Peregrine 11 might fit the bill?
I'd say not really if you've got the Evo Speedgoats already Richard 👍 As far as the Peregrine 11's for a more technical shoe, definitely! It's a great shoe for more technical trails especially in winter and you've got a great rock plate in the forefoot for added protection 😊 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
It's definitely a heavier shoe even in a uk9.5! I'm not sure what it would weigh in a uk12 but it would be pretty heavy for a running shoe 🤔 Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
I've suffered with Planta issues on and off for about 10 years and I had no problems with the adapter groove Perry 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I'll see what I can do Shaun 🤔 I haven't reviewed any La Sportiva shoes on the channel but I quite fancy trying the Jackal 👍 Thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Strange question but I'm after a new pair of trail shoes and I live I my Brooks Ghost 14 - so I need a pair off trail shoes with a wide toe box..... and I haven't found a pair of Hokas wide enough?? or have Hoka made a wide enough pair - or am I getting the Inov8's?? - I've just found some Altra Lone Peak 5's and they're in my basket!!
Hoka do offer the Speedgoat in a width fit but it's still not that wide in the toe box. The Inov-8 would definitely offer you a bit more width but if you have a very wide forefoot then the Altra is the shoe to go for. I would say though that your Ghosts have the highest heel off set possible at 12mm and the Altra shoe is Zero drop. I'd go steady to begin with in the Altras and get use to the Zero drop before you do any longer runs. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I'm going to get a pair of VJ Ultras to test and review Morgan 👍 It seems like a lot of people are really interested in this shoe. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
At a lot of the big trail races around Europe, UTMB, Trans Grand Canaria etc Vibram bring a big lorry to the and you can get get a pair of shoes re-soled in Vibram megagrip litebase rubber for free! 😲 It's a great service but you have to book in early because slots fill up quick 😊
A lot of people are enjoying the new VJ Ultras Torkil 👍 I will get a pair eventually to test and review at the channel, sounds like a good shoe 😊 Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
It's a difficult one on the price. If graphene is genuinely that much more durable in the midsole and the shoe will go twice the distance of other shoes then surely it should be considered as half the price in comparisons... Saying that, no way I'd get away with buying a pair at full price, even with that argument!
I think the main question is if the Graphene outsole and midsoles are super durable..... What about the upper? It tends to be the uppers that break down first in modern day running shoe's so it's going to be interesting to see how it holds up. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated Kristian 🙏
Inov8 is one of the few companies (Saucony, Inov8, Dynafit) that doesn't spit the political bs on their website, which I appreciate and will support them from now on.
There is definitely a lot of that going on in the running shoe industry, some of the stuff I read is comical! 😂😂😂 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I'd say I'm more midfoot/forefoot when it comes to foot strike 👍 I haven't really worked on it, it's just how I tend to run. However I do think about form while I'm running and try to stay as efficient as possible. Hope this helps and thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊
Inov8 are like VW transporters.... over priced and not that good...... might become a better company now its been bought back from that Japanese company
That's kind of how I've always thought about the Inov-8 brand but the Trailfly ultra has surprised me but it is definitely still to expensive still! 😲 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure decent account of a product as always fella... yeah shelling out 170 to ruin on their first outing!!!! For me it's the likes of greedy inov8 thats driving the prices of shoes to silly price... la sportiva keep it real with their mountain shoes. But hay who am I
Price is all wrong. Drop price by 25% and see sales double/triple and likely make inov8 more profit and more fanatics to.their brand. Just a dumb, dumb, dumb price point..... they're better off selling their brand to Nike or Adidas to vastly improve cost and value for money.
I totally agree about the price Dominic. Inov-8 would definitely sell a lot more Trailfly ultras if they lowered the price of the shoe 👍 I think it's put a lot of people off trying the shoe which is a shame because it does perform well over long distance. Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Agree too. I bought some Nike Wildhorse for I think £75 with the discounts they always offer (30% off everything today!). I could buy two pairs and still have change compared to the innov8
Run in the Inov8 G300 best trail shoes I’ve ever bought! I’m a big lad so like the support over distance. Agree the lockdown is insane and they are just such a comfortable shoe. Love them!
I'm really glad you're enjoying the Trailfly ultras Mark 😊
It's a shoe that has really surprised me and its a great shoe for long distance. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
A great video and exactly my experience. I used the SG4 wide and the inov8 is heavier on paper but doesn’t feel it and like you mention, was much comfier out the box. I’ll be using the inov8 and a pair of la sportivas in cape wrath in august. Pricey but in my opinion, a worthy investment so far.
Really glad you enjoyed the review and you're getting on with the Trailfly ultras 👍
Best of luck with the Cape Wrath and thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure no worries mate. Also appreciate the support you’re doing for us subscribers - got some nice tribe tops with the code you shared!!
Left with no doubts! Excelent review thank you
I’m glad you found it helpful, thanks for watching 🙏
Great comparison Loyd. Like you I ran 1000’s miles in all versions of the SG. It was the toe box that finally made me look elsewhere and end up in Topo.
Very tempted to try the Trailfly, but either the price needs to come down or a new colour way so that my wife doesn’t either mind or notice them !!
Thanks Dean it's appreciated 😊
Really glad you've found a shoe brand that works for you mate. I'm looking forward to getting the MTN Racer 2 it should be a pretty good shoe. I think you're right the Trailfly ultra would be a difficult shoe to sneak in to the collection 😂
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel mate 🙏
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Great video Loyd. My TrailFly took about 50km to fully break in. I agree what you say about the shoe and on the whole I love them, but I’m looking forward to where they go in version 2, it feels like they can shed some weight and they can feel a bit cumbersome at times. I also have a pair of On CloudUltra’s which I didn’t think I’d like , but I love them. A little more precise than the Inov8. They use the cushioning to keep your foot at a stable position and feels a bit like a road running shoe.
Thanks Benedict I'm really glad you enjoyed the video 👍
It will be interesting to see where Inov-8 take the shoe in the next model. Hope a few grams and a few pounds! Lighter with a bit of luck 😊
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My Trail Fly are on the way! It’ll be interesting to see how durable the graphene sole is through this summer. They’re a hefty price but it won’t be long before that technology filters down right through the Inov8 line and I think early adopters are probably paying for the license to incorporate graphene which wouldn’t have been cheap to secure I’m sure. Happy to take a punt on your recommendation and fingers crossed we’ll both be crossing the finish line in Chamonix in August wearing bright green hoofs!! Cheers for vs piece Loyd and great to catch up last Friday pal!
Great to catch up mate 😊
I really hope you enjoy your Trailfly ultras and it works for you. Let's cross all our fingers and toes mate and hope we get out to Chamonix this year! 🏃♂️🏃♂️⛰️
Thanks for watching 🙏
Thank you for the great Comparison.
I'm doing a lot of Shorter trail Runs with the ocasional long run(so far 39k 2400m @7:50 hrs was longest).
I really like my Hoka SG3 and SG4 shoes and usually don't have Stability issues with them. I usually Run on Jungle trails with the occasional River Tracing Sections. I've always been very Happy with the Grip of the Shoes. They work really well except for Very steep and Muddy trails (but then usually I'm one of the last to slip) and the most slippery wet stones with algae on top. I have to agree I liked the Upper Material on my SG3 more. After the Test I would be interested in trying the Trailfly but the price is quite Steep for someone who is just doing it for fun and not trying to win the races
Thanks Matt that's really appreciated 👍
The SG3'S are a great shoe. Like you said maybe not that great in the mud but brilliant on pretty much everything else. I really wish Hoka didn't make the changes they made to the upper and fit but nevermind. Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
I love inov8, always have, but this model is too expensive so its a no from me. Great review and glad your loving the shoe.
I'm the opposite Daz and I've never really got on with Inov-8 shoes but the Trailfly ultra really works for me when it comes to distance. You're right about the price though and it's such a shame 😔
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@@adygray1322 Cheers for that, you can actually get 20% off INOV8 using the running heroes app, still too pricey for me though.
Thanks for the nice review. I just bought the standard Hoka’s and they were too narrow, so I bought the wide. From the appearance there’s not much difference, however if you try them on, there’s a world of difference.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's really not that much wider but it dies have more volume in the toe box 👍
Glad the wider option worked out for you and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great video Lloyd. I like the Trailfly but agree it needs to drop a little weight and could be so much better. Once the miles stack up then you feel the extra load in my opinion especially when mud comes into play. The responsiveness and comfort is great despite having a slight firmness to it. Almost there for me. Works for me between marathon and 50k. I also paid £120 for these not sure I would go £170. Interested to see how the new Salomon compares against this as quite a bit lighter and cheaper.
Thanks Daniel really glad you enjoyed the review 👍
You're so right, the Trailfly ultra is almost there and I'm looking forward to see where inov8 go with the shoe! Also £120 is a really good price for the shoe, bargain 👍
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Great video, as always. I agree that the move from SG3 to SG4 was not really an upgrade, though the upper is definitely more durable (I just started to break through at the flex point at 400 miles). I also agree with a lot of the viewers that the Evo SG is a superior shoe. More squishy, but somehow more connected, considerably lighter and faster, incredibly grippy, and the Kevlar upper is invincible. Going to try holding out to see what SG 5 or Evo SG 2 look like, but will definitely check out the Trailfly before getting a new pair. Thanks for the awesome content!
Thanks Kent really glad you enjoyed the review 👍
The Evo is definitely a good version of the Speedgoat and in my opinion a better shoe than the SG4's because it based off the SG3's platform 😊
It's going to be really interesting to see the Speedgoat 5 and to see if Hoka make an Evo version. I have no idea when the shoe is going to be launched though? Haven't seen it in store yet, its not in next seasons catalogue? It's a mystery! I think it's be put back because of all the crazy stuff going on in the World at the moment 🤔
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Good video. It is tough to try INOV in US. Hoka is everywhere but I have never seen INOV in running store. I like to try them sometime.
Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed the review. That's a shame because the Trailfly ultra is a nice feeling shoe 😊
Inov-8 clearly need to focus so attention on the US by the sounds of it. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated, hope you find some to try 🙏
Great comparison. Thank you. Will you be getting your hands on the VJ Sport Ultra soon? Would love a review from you.
Thanks Martin, I'm glad you thought so. I'm hoping to get hold of some VJ Ultras soon to test and review on the channel. It looks like a very interesting shoe 👍
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Great comparison review, Loyd of 2 popular makes. It would be interesting to see how you compare the ride and fit of the inov8 to the Altra Olympus 4. It’s getting some great reviews too. Thanks for keeping us connected to trail running during Covid! 🙂
Thanks Paul that's really appreciated! You're right the Olympus 4 looks like pretty decent shoe, I'll see what I can do 👍
Thanks for watching mate 🙏
I use SG4 for daily trainig, but I think the best Hoka is the EVO Speedgoat, more fast and have the same comfort of the SG4
The Evo Speedgoat is definitely better than the 4's because it's built off a the SG3's platform. In my eyes the 3's were a lot better than the 4's! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great review thank you. Liking all the comments below. I did try on a pair of the Inov8's a couple of weeks ago at their new store. They did feel super comfy but also quite heavy. I'm a 10.5 or 11 which is quite a jump up in weight from my Torrents and Saucony Peregrine 10's and 11's. I'll try and find a pair of SG 4 or the Evo's to try. I'm doing the Lakeland 50 in July so now is the time to try something new or deiced to stick with the Torrents. I've done nearly 500 km in the Torrents but I do use the Inov8 insoles in them which make a really big difference.
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed the review. The Trailfly ultra is quite a heavy shoe especially if you're use to the weight of a Torrent 👍
To be fair I don't think it runs heavy though. You're right about the Inov-8 insoles, they're really good! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏
Great review comparison. I have both now and prefer the Speedgoat for my purposes which is not running but hiking every day. I also love the weird Hoka TenNine as I have back and knee issues and need that cushion. I want to like the Inov’s but they just don’t fit my feet as well and I have had to use thinner socks. I had to return the first pair in my usual size 12 for a 12.5 and still crowding in the toe box. They do not have the cushion that the Speedgoat have on the trail in my opinion but will be great for muddy conditions and that’s why I got them and curiosity. I am still trying them out. For runners with little musculoskeletal issues the Inov’s will probably be great.
Really glad you enjoyed the review. That's the thing with running shoes it's so personal and what works for one might not work for the other 👍
I personally think the TenNine was a bit of a gimmick shoe for Hoka, especially as a running shoe! Maybe it works as a walking shoe but I'm not convinced 🤔
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Thanks - I wore my Speedgoat this morning, great shoes and my go to for the moment! The TenNine does work well for me as a hiking shoe since I have knee and back issues but maybe not for others. Thanks for the reply and run on!
I took the plunge and forked out the £170 for the G-Flys. For me they had to outperform my go-to shoe the La Sportiva Mutant which I’ve relied on for several years. They did. I’m particularly impressed by how instantly they stabilise as my foot lands. I just need them to last £170 worth of mileage
That's great news and I'm glad you're enjoying your Trailfly ultras 👍
For a deep, cushioned midsoled trail shoe it does feel pretty connected and stable underfoot 😊
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Did they last? I had some G270 last year and was unbelievable how long they lasted, still going now in fact.
Good review and interesting for me. I'm a SG fan and on my 3rd pair of SG3s, I also have Hoka road shoes, from Clifton to Arahi and most recently Rincon 2. One thing I find with all Hokas is I have to run them with Superfeet carbon insoles to avoid blisters.
I ran for 5hrs yesterday in Peregrine 10s, I like them but IMO, they are a shoe for shorter distance, at least for me.
So an interesting dilemma for my next long distance trail shoe because the only issue I have with the SG is that feeling of disconnection sometimes and I find it most prominent when running over roots.
I get that the SG4 might have changed a bit and I'd love to try that Inov8 but no way at that price difference.
It is a big shame about the price of the Trailfly ultras because I think it's putting a lot of people off trying them out, which I totally understand at £170!!😲
I've run the Peregrine 10's up to 50 miles and I found it OK and I was planing to use it at the Arc of Attrition this year until it was cancelled but I suppose we're all different. The problem is the more depth of cushioning you put under your foot for comfort the more ground feel you'll loose, so it's all about compromise. What do you value more, comfort or ground feel Ian? 🤔
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I think for up to 50k and faster trail marathons, I prefer ground feel over that comfort. The irony is, when you're tired from the longer stuff and want comfort, the extra sole means you're more likely to trip 😀
One thing I haven't tried is the Peregrines with the Superfeet insoles.
Brilliant review Loyd. Im not surprised you went with the Inov8 as I remember your initial review of the SG4 not being so favourable compared to the SG3 and I would agree 100%. As you rightly mentioned though £170 starting price for a shoe is well off my mark. Its funny though too as without the Hoka the likes of Inov8 and others would have stuck with their same old formula ;-) There wouldn't be a Trailfly if there hadn't been a SG.
It is funny Phil and I say this all the time when it comes to Hoka. Back in the day when Hoka started making deep, cushioned midsoled shoes all the other brands laughed at them! Isn't it amazing how all the brands are now replicating the same design and calling it there own 🤔
I must be honest I never thought I'd see the day when Inov-8 made a deep cushioned trail running shoes! Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
great review! was it intentional you didn't mention the evo speedgoat? oh and of course the inevitable question: when do you expect the sg 5 to drop? asking for a friend...
No not intentional Ozenfant 😊
The video was a comparison of the standard Speedgoat 4 👍
There seems to be a lot of love for the Evo Speedgoat on the channel. Its a better shoe because its built of the same platform as the SG3's 😊
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Who'd have thought, Inov8 taking that crown of go to long distance trail shoe from the Speedgoat? 🤯
I definitely fall into the camp of would love to try the Ultra G300 Max, but just not will to fork out that sort of money on a trail shoe.
Great comparison video though. 👍
I know Stuart I can't quite believe it myself but the Trailfly ultra does handle the long stuff well 👍
Totally agree though it need to shed a few "Pounds" when it comes to the weight and the price 😊
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Great review!
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Top video 👍 Love these Inov-8 for longer runs - you just seam not to get tired feet with them. Regarding price... yesss... but still worth it for me... will spend less for something else... 🤩
Thanks Roland 👍
The Trailfly ultra is a great shoe for long distance and you're right about the tired feet thing 🤔
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Inov8 are the best long distance trail shoes I have ever used. For the fells they have too much in stack height and I would stick to x talons, but for a long trail ultra superb!
Really glad you're enjoying your Trailfly ultras. You're right it is a great shoe for running long distance Joseph 👍
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I’m probably going to buy some TrailFlys when my local store gets them. The price seems expensive, but graphene is so durable. I bet they last twice as long as other shoes at least. I have 200 miles on my SG3s and 280 miles on my TerraUltras. The outsole on the TerraUltras is doing better than the SG3s.
Awesome John, it's a good shoe that's for sure but you're right it is pricey! If the Trailfly ultra holds up like inov8 say it will then I suppose its worth it 👍
The Graphene rubber is very impressive isn't it! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
Would like to see a comparison of the G 300 and the new Salomon Ultra Glide
I'll see what I can do Neal 👍
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Haven't tried Inov-8 but it looks nice. Been using Hoka Torrent Xtrerra which works great up to 50k. Probably use speedgoat or speedgoat evo for anything longer
The Torrent is a great shoe up to that 50k distance but I'm like you I'd want a bit more shoe for longer distance 👍
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My Speedgoat 4 Limited Edition arrived today!!!
Hope you're enjoying your Speedgoats Grant! 😊
Great review Lloyd. I would try the inov8 shoes if the price was at a more reasonable until then I’ll stick with the speed🐐
Thanks Andrew that's really appreciated 👍
There's a lot of viewers commenting the same thing. It's a shame because the price is putting a lot of people off trying the shoe which I totally understand 😔
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Love my speedgoat 4 built to go long and really nice midsole first pair of hokas and they are great
Really glad you're enjoying your Speedgoat 4's Ashley and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
For the inov-8 do you recommend the usual number of the Speedgoat? Thanks for the video, it's Great!! 🔥
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the review Andrea 😊
Do you mean the same size?
Have you tried the Hoka Mafate 2 yet Loyd? I went for those over the Speedgoat’s as the upper is supposed to flex to the foot shape. Despite my initial reservations of Hoka’s claims, it actually does seem to be the case and they’ve become more comfortable after a few miles of wearing them
I tried the first version of the Mafate and really didn't get on with it Anthony. I found it felt a bit flat, a bit stiff and unresponsive to run in 🤔
I haven't tried the latest version so maybe things have changed 😊
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Great video ! One question : maybe there is an update on the inov8 in the meantime, but their web page states a stack of 25mm/19mm. Do you know, if this changed ?
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 😊
I'm pretty sure the stack hight in the video is the complete stack hight including the outsole as well. 25mm/19mm is the actual depth of the cushioning 👍
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@@Run4Adventure yep, you are right , I should check first next time 😏
@@joernpeterpook5728 no worries 👍
What are / were your thoughts on the EVO speedgoats in comparisons the speedgoats?
The Evo is a much better Speedgoat than the current SG4's because it's built off the same platform as the SG3's, which in my eyes was a much better shoe 👍
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@@Run4Adventure Is the EVO SG4 narrower that SG4?
@@nicross5000 The SG Evo is actually built off the SG3 platform so it does fit a bit better than the SG4's 👍
If you compared the EVO Speedgoat, rather than the normal Speedgoat, that comes in at a similar price point (£150) but is 30g lighter. The EVO is 285g in my UK size 10. The Hoka tapered toe box is annoying but 80g per shoe weight diff over a 50 or 100 miler is significant I think. Inov-8 need to reduce the weight and price before I'm interested.
For me a tapered toebox is more annoying for longer distance then weight. But then again it's all personal, inov8 works better for me.
The Evo Speedgoat is a much better shoe than the current SG4's because it's built off the same platform as the SG3's, which in my opinion was a much better shoe 👍
You're right about the weight and price of the Trailfly ultras. If it lost a bit of weight and a few "pounds" it would definitely improve the shoe. Thanks for watching 🙏
have run in the speedgoats for years, the price of the INOV is the stopping thing for me.
It's a crazy price Beth and such a shame because its putting a lot of runners off a good shoe 😔
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I run in the speedgoat but without the insoles...then I have a little more room in the forefoot. Without the insoles it still is a great shoe
Awesome Steve 👍
That's what running is all about, finding out what works best for you, it's all so personal 😊
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You should probably try to always size-up in Hokas! Most companies base their lasts on the US measurement, which in Hokas is only 0.5 higher than the UK they list, however in reality the US size should be 1 higher than the UK size. Which means you should probably always opt for a UK 10 in Hokas, as well as New Balance and Adidas actually, both of which have also done this bad sizing translation.
If you are going to review the New Balance FuelCell Rebel V2, you should no doubt go up at least half a size as they are very short. I'm usually a short US10 (UK 9.5 in NB) and the Rebel V2 truly is a half size shorter than it's supposed to be by the US sizing.
You're right the US sizing on some brands does come up different compared to some brands but that doesn't always meen you need to size up, it really depends on the model of shoe 👍
All the shoes are made in different factories and using different shoe lasts. For instance I've always been a uk10 in a Speedgoat but a uk10 in a Torrent 2 is way to big, so I run the Torrent 2 in a UK 9.5 😊
I've run in a lot of Hoka shoes over the years and I've had shoes that are uk9.5, uk10 and even a uk10.5!!
Again you're right about adidas and NB both brands size up really small and I've even had to go up a full size in a some adidas shoes just to get the right fit 😲
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@@Run4Adventure thank you for the work that you put into the channel!
I reckon.....the soon to be released Saucony Endorphin Trail will be as good or better than both, granted outsoles on these two are BRILLIANT and the new Saucony with ProTrack is a step down.
But.....PowerRun PB midsole will be bomber
The Endorphin Trail looks like an interesting shoe that's for sure but it isn't cheap either at £160! 😲
If tried the shoe on and the PWRRUN Pb is very different in the Trail shoe midsole compared to the Endorphin road shoes 👍
Looking forward to trying them though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Have you tried the Scarpa Spin Ultra Lloyd ? Running my first 47miler in a few months and I have struggled with shoe selections. Thought it would be Hoka Mafate Speed..... but they make my feet sore. Might have another look at the Speedgoat.
I haven't tried any Scarpa shoes unfortunately Simon. I have had a few viewers ask about them so I'm going to try and test some of their trail shoes this year. I think their running shoes have come a long way over the last few years. If I'm honest I've never really like the Mafate, I found it a bit stiff and clunky to run in! 🤔
Hope you find a shoe that works and best of luck with your race 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure many thanks. I bought the Trailfly Ultra and have ebayed the Mafate. Looking forward to giving them a proper whirl this week at some point.
@@sifoulkes Awesome, hope you enjoy them 😊
I have the EVO SG which I believe is more like the 3 than the 4? Anyway it’s a great shoe, little bit pricey but having a discount code helped!
Yeah your right Greg the Evo is built off the SG3's platform which in my eyes was a better shoe than the SG4's 👍
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I was surprised. Thought for sure you were leaning to the SG.
If it had been the SG3's I'd of definitely gone with the Speedgoats Ron but I never got on as well with version 4 😔
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@@Run4Adventure totally agree and now running in my last pair of SG3 🥲
Great vid. Totally agree with the speedgoat traction in the mud, I live in The Cotswolds and ran today and it wasn’t great.
What would you suggest for a wide foot, max cushion, muddy run?
Thanks Max, really glad you enjoyed it! Yeap the Speedgoat isn't great in heavy mud but it handles everything else really well 😊
As far as other shoe, you say you're wide in foot shape but the Speedgoat definitely isn't wide? The Trailfly ultra would definitely give more grip in the mud than the Speedgoat and its got more width in the Toe box. I'd also take a look at the Topo MTN Racer. It also has good width and a nice luggy outsole that's coated in Vibram megagrip rubber 👍
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@@Run4Adventure thanks. I have the wide Speedgoat so it is slightly better. I generally find standard trainers a little narrow but I’m not a fully wide size. I’m a bit in between annoyingly.
Inov8 offer 20% off with run heroes 😎 I’d still take the SG4 because I’m tight 😂
20% off is a much more realistic price for the shoe I think. At that sort of price I think Inov-8 would have sold a lot more shoes 🤔
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Would you say it would be worth getting some of the Inov-8s if I've already got a pair of Evo Speedgoats? I'd messaged Inov-8 a couple of months ago about looking for a shoe that would feel slightly more stable on rocky/technical terrain than my Evo Speedgoats and they told me to look out for a new shoe coming out - turns out the new shoe was the Trailfly and it seems from your review they're pretty similar. Have you got any recommendations for a slightly more technical shoe that doesn't go as far as being an out and out fell shoe will little cushioning? I'm wondering if the Peregrine 11 might fit the bill?
I'd say not really if you've got the Evo Speedgoats already Richard 👍
As far as the Peregrine 11's for a more technical shoe, definitely! It's a great shoe for more technical trails especially in winter and you've got a great rock plate in the forefoot for added protection 😊
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Have you tried the EVO Speedgoat? I've heard really great things about the uppper.
The Evo Speedgoat is a better shoe than the SG4's in my eyes because it's built off the same platform as the SG3's Joshua 👍
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All in all, the Inov8 are appealing when it comes to durability but unappealing when you look at the weight (uk 12 here...)
It's definitely a heavier shoe even in a uk9.5! I'm not sure what it would weigh in a uk12 but it would be pretty heavy for a running shoe 🤔
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Has anybody with plantar fasciitis tried the Trailfly? I'm really interested in the shoe but also wary of the adapter groove.
I've suffered with Planta issues on and off for about 10 years and I had no problems with the adapter groove Perry 👍
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@@Run4Adventurethanks. I just got a pair, and between the adapter groove and sliding insole I'll need to modify the insole. Great traction though.
Interesting. Would love some reviews on La Sportiva's line up from Lloyd. Always take everything reviewed into consideration.
I'll see what I can do Shaun 🤔
I haven't reviewed any La Sportiva shoes on the channel but I quite fancy trying the Jackal 👍
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@@Run4Adventure I thought the jackal ran really similar to the Peregrine but possibly a little more robust in the upper..
Strange question but I'm after a new pair of trail shoes and I live I my Brooks Ghost 14 - so I need a pair off trail shoes with a wide toe box..... and I haven't found a pair of Hokas wide enough?? or have Hoka made a wide enough pair - or am I getting the Inov8's?? - I've just found some Altra Lone Peak 5's and they're in my basket!!
Hoka do offer the Speedgoat in a width fit but it's still not that wide in the toe box. The Inov-8 would definitely offer you a bit more width but if you have a very wide forefoot then the Altra is the shoe to go for. I would say though that your Ghosts have the highest heel off set possible at 12mm and the Altra shoe is Zero drop. I'd go steady to begin with in the Altras and get use to the Zero drop before you do any longer runs. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Be interesting to compare with the new VJ Sports Ultra 🤔!!?
I'm going to get a pair of VJ Ultras to test and review Morgan 👍
It seems like a lot of people are really interested in this shoe. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Excellent look forward to that! Interesting brand might be suited to UK conditions!
Um, "re-soling"? Please give more details on that!
At a lot of the big trail races around Europe, UTMB, Trans Grand Canaria etc Vibram bring a big lorry to the and you can get get a pair of shoes re-soled in Vibram megagrip litebase rubber for free! 😲
It's a great service but you have to book in early because slots fill up quick 😊
@@Run4Adventure Whaaaaaat!
I highly recommend the new VJ Ultra`s! Tried them against the Speedgoat 4s, and I like the VJs better!
A lot of people are enjoying the new VJ Ultras Torkil 👍
I will get a pair eventually to test and review at the channel, sounds like a good shoe 😊
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It's a difficult one on the price. If graphene is genuinely that much more durable in the midsole and the shoe will go twice the distance of other shoes then surely it should be considered as half the price in comparisons...
Saying that, no way I'd get away with buying a pair at full price, even with that argument!
I think the main question is if the Graphene outsole and midsoles are super durable..... What about the upper? It tends to be the uppers that break down first in modern day running shoe's so it's going to be interesting to see how it holds up. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated Kristian 🙏
Absurd. Vibram megagrip nobody does it better 😝 sick.
The Megagrip rubber is brilliant Ruel I agree but the Graphene grip is just as good 👍😊
Inov8 is one of the few companies (Saucony, Inov8, Dynafit) that doesn't spit the political bs on their website, which I appreciate and will support them from now on.
There is definitely a lot of that going on in the running shoe industry, some of the stuff I read is comical! 😂😂😂
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Says the guy with Pepe the Frog as his profile picture. I’d hate to know what your “politics” are. 😬👏
Size of Hoka is interesting thing. I always have EU 46 2/3 but in hoka its 47 1/3 🤷♂️
Some models of Hoka definitely size up a little small 👍
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@@Run4Adventure Same as „wide” version of speedgoat. It fits the same like a normal “narrow” version. I don’t see any difference 🤷♂️
My pleasure 😉
I notice you really run on your forefoot, so much so that your heel doesnt touch the ground.
Have you always run like that or trained yourself?
I'd say I'm more midfoot/forefoot when it comes to foot strike 👍
I haven't really worked on it, it's just how I tend to run. However I do think about form while I'm running and try to stay as efficient as possible. Hope this helps and thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Cheers
Do you sell off your gear once reviewed?
No Stuart I keep using most of it 👍
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GingerRunner mentioned a chemical smell filling up a room with the 300 Max!
Not sure what he means? I haven't noticed any unusual smells with the 300 max 🤔
@@Run4Adventure Ed Bud mentioned it too.
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Inov8 are like VW transporters.... over priced and not that good...... might become a better company now its been bought back from that Japanese company
That's kind of how I've always thought about the Inov-8 brand but the Trailfly ultra has surprised me but it is definitely still to expensive still! 😲
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@@Run4Adventure decent account of a product as always fella... yeah shelling out 170 to ruin on their first outing!!!! For me it's the likes of greedy inov8 thats driving the prices of shoes to silly price... la sportiva keep it real with their mountain shoes. But hay who am I
those inov8 shoes are damn fugly though
I actually thought they looked pretty good John 😊
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Price is all wrong. Drop price by 25% and see sales double/triple and likely make inov8 more profit and more fanatics to.their brand.
Just a dumb, dumb, dumb price point..... they're better off selling their brand to Nike or Adidas to vastly improve cost and value for money.
I totally agree about the price Dominic. Inov-8 would definitely sell a lot more Trailfly ultras if they lowered the price of the shoe 👍
I think it's put a lot of people off trying the shoe which is a shame because it does perform well over long distance. Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Agree too. I bought some Nike Wildhorse for I think £75 with the discounts they always offer (30% off everything today!). I could buy two pairs and still have change compared to the innov8