UPDATE - it also has a 6+ feel no pain aura to nearby tyranid organisms. It could be a nice thing to have in a monster mash army as a tough bug that's likely to be low on the priority list but makes the rest of your advancing force tougher?
now, after the new balance changes, do you think, the change to anti-psyker 4+ was sensible? As I would rather want to use the 2+ rule, while fighting my friends grey knight army xD
The tyranids don't create monsters from scratch, they use the DNA of devoured creatures, it makes sense that at least some of them are humanoid as it is by far the most common and versatile form
@@blockwithaglock96 versitile yes but not actually effective. Also if they cant edit too much or combine then id like to know how they becaime space fairing.
@@firmak2 they were made by the old ones and they can definitely combine dna , but in a galaxy filled with humanoid species that wield guns it makes sense that at least some of them would be humanoid and wielding guns
From the look of it, being a psyker is just a straight up malus in 10th. You don't have access to schools anymore, the psykic attacks don't do MW, and there is a lot, A LOT of units with anti psylers roaming around with even a couple of anti psyker defenses in some cases.
Agreed, psykers dont have access to anything that non psykers dont - psyker buffs are universally just things that non psykers get without that keyword
@@mintw4241 That’s not how the game works. Those armies will not have the same buffs on a nine psyker, so that you get the same for the same points. You want that buff/ability, you will have to take the psyker, but it will open you up to anti-psyker abilities. PS: 9th had MWs etc. by none-psykers and had lots of anti-psyker abilities as well. The mini game is gone and the amount of options is reduced in 10th, but that goes for all characters, not just psykers. On the plus side: you are no longer limited to attempt a psychic power only once per battleround.
In an edition that’s supposed to be less killy, psychic attacks have been shown to have more efficient stat lines than non-psychic attacks, so now there’s a bit more risk v reward in taking psykers
@@seblapin both look like a tick people don't complain about tanks that look almost identical, but suddenly complain when two drastically different things share a body type with a real world animal
"Babe wake up it's time to preview another unit with Anti-Psyker" Eldar Farseer: "Yes honey" But for real it seems like there's a whole slew of Anti-Psyker profiles we've seen recently!
For a psychic heavy army eldar aren't at risk from anti psyker stuff compared to tzeentch or grey knights, eldar spells tend to be concentrated into one or two powerful casters instead of spread around the whole army, so you can always hide the farseer
As a Custodes player, I’m glad I don’t have any psykers myself, but I also can’t see myself bringing any SoS because all the anti-psyker feels like it’s just punishing all the psyker-heavy armies for having an extra phase last edition. It just seems so weird to have anti-psyker as a dedicated unit role, but the psykers themselves just don’t bring enough threat to the table to justify that.
@lfork6958 As a Grey Knight player I appreciate that, because the rules revealed so far for psychic heavy armies just don't justify the bullying from anti-psyker abilities. 😢
This and the neurotyrant look so damn cool. Glad to see more “out there” crazy monster designs too! Humanoid figures get very old for an army that’s supposed to be otherworldly monsters made up of reconstructed biomass.
Surprised "Psychoclastic Torrent" doesn't have the [psychic] keyword Unless the thing is literally just barfing hallucinogens onto their target...which honestly wouldn't be too out of place for a nid.
d6+1 attack hurts this thing a lot love everything else thou for its point cost and you know its not going to be cheep its bad could use a 2d6 torrent or a lot more stable melee
You didn't mention (outside of GK and TS comments) that the Psyker keyword for leaders will mean that any bodyguard units that include one will also count as Psyker unit. Genestealers being led by a Patriach, Librarian termie leading terminators, weirdboy in an Ork buy unit, all of those d6+1 attacks are now shredding through those bodyguard models due to the anti-psyker keyword.
Damn, 10th Edition is so far crystallizing into being VERY anti-psyker, seeing as some armies have just crazy strong counters to them and Black Templars as a whole being hard counters to factions like Grey Knights or Thousand Sons. Not only are Psychic powers a shadow of what they were the previous Editions, but now even having the Psyker keyword will open you up to stiff punishment.
Agreed, BT Trait is not only autowin against Psyker Armies, it's also plain better than every other divergent SM trait by a huge margin. Not hating on BTs, but how can GW not see this???
I don’t agree on BT being such a hard counter. The 4++ seems strong, until you realize that no psychic gun had AP above 1. So it works against nemesis force weapons (they are AP2), but an AP reduction of 1 in melee isn’t the be end of all abilities. Same goes for the anti-psyker 4+, BT already wound basic GK on 4+, so it’s against terminators and baby carriers, but then again, does nothing against other vehicles that aren’t psykers (that leaves about the dreadnaughts). Don’t get me wrong, it’s still good and all, but I doubt it will hard counter GK as the majority of armor saves and wound rolls will stay the same for BT.
@@milktenders6219 no, them taking away the mortal wound potential from TS and GK is. The anti-psyker rules are weird when they already have done that. By the way, the only times i have seen a crapton of Mortals was when completely broken Zoanthropes came out, and from the utterly stupid Imperial Knight stratagem where they just transform damage into mortals. So ething that might by the way be MORE prevalent when they give stuff Devastating wounds X+ and Rerolls! Which they are!
Remind me again, what good is the "psyker" keyword? And what exactly does the psychic keyword do for weapons? All it seems to do is make anyone who plays grey knights quit playing until it actually does something useful.
It's more subtle than that. By and large every weapon that has been labeled psychic has had a more efficient profile than non-psychic similar weapons. Also this is still speculation but once everything is looked at holistically with points included it will be more clear how things sit in how powerful things are. Anti-psychic weapons/models/kit could easily be costed at a higher premium than things they are countering, they certainly will be FAR less cost effective when NOT used against psychic at minimum. The reason things have looked like this is since there is no more psychic tests and deny the witch etc. Everything that is psychic is just allowed to work while being on average more powerful/efficient against similar non-psychic options and the counterplay has been moved into other rules and weapons themeselves and I'm sure will (at least eventually) be costed appropriately.
How would it work in close combat against an psycher that's in a Squad (like thousand sons) can it pick that model with it's attacks to use the 2+ roll?
Can Feeding Frenzy kick in mid combat? If you slow roll, and successfully deal some damage on your first attack, do the rest of your attacks gain the benefit?
I don't think so, slow rolling the single attack profile wouldn't change the characteristics of the attack as the roll is supposed to be simultaneous. Having a second unit engaging and activated first in the combat phase could potentially change how the Psycophage Attacks would be modified if the target unit suffers enough casualties
I like the model and the lore a lot. I'm afraid of him being a little too situational to be really useful, especially after some of the early battle reports I've seen. We'll see!
So like, what value will the haruspex add? I mean, they are both feeder beasts, but it feels like this is some type of replacement with an anti-psyker twist. I know their stats/rules are different, so I mean more lorewise.
i think the difference is the haruspex is meant to be diving into lines of the enemy consuming as much as it’s stomach could possibly hand compared to this being a more hold back, more targeted creature
May be missing something but I think he double dipped the math. If the normal save is about 67% and the shrug is 33% that looks like 50% durability but you are only shrugging 33% of the not saved rolls. So technically its about 33% of the 33% not saved (assuming no ap) which is ~11% of total wounds shrugged, but 33% increase in durability for unsaved wounds.
Why would you take in account the armor (against an undefined weapon) and the FNP to determine the FNP durability increase? I think he just didn't notice, since he actually points out in the video that the FNP is actually a 33% damage absortion
Compare it to "how much extra wounds would this model need, to get the same result (death), without fnp". With 10 wounds, you need 10 unsaved damage to kill it, if it wound not have fnp. With fnp 5+, you would need on average 15 damage to kill it, since 5 of these will be saved. So it behaves (on average) the same way as a 15 wound model, which is 50% more wounds.
So they gave Grey Knights a 2+ Save that they will never ever get to use because all the Anti-Psyker 2+ Devastating wounds models will just completely shit out mortal wounds against them, and they don't even have a FNP against it anymore. WTF?
"All the anti-psyker +2" dude it's barely a handful of data sheets when looking at the grand scheme of each faction, let alone the entire game. It's not like they won't have points cost associated with being anti-psyker, which can easily be tuned to being just efficient enough to warrant using against psykers and utterly horrible value against everything else AND is just as capable of being targeted and eliminated just like any other unit in the game that is prioritized for any number of reasons. T This is like crying anti-vehicle weapons aren't utterly non-existent because THEY'RE efficient against their intended target and have more viable targets against vehicle skew factions/lists. Yes, shocker. Every faction has explicit options for anti-whatever and that will find more value in skew lists focusing on that. Yet we still see hordes used, elite infantry used, vehicles used and even skew lists focusing on them despite there being plenty of things made explicitly to counter them! Psykers don't get to be an exception! Wow!
@@williampounds5191 it’s an awful lot of datasheets we have seen at least, plus i have not seen Anti-Vehicle 2+ anywhere. Also, you can opt not to play 10 tanks in your Guard army. You can not opt to play TS or GK without Psykers!
@@williampounds5191 if Psykers had some kind of special utility then anti-psyker would feel more balanced, but Psykers seem to be like any other unit except with the psychic keyword attached so anti-psyker just punishes certain models for existing.
In my opnion you can learn just about any faction and adapt to any playstyle. What you really should be going for is picking the faction whose models and lore you like the best. Unless you're the kind of person that pays someone else to do it, you will spend a LOT of hours painting your models. So it's a good idea, IMO, to make sure they're models you like.
@@shieldyourselfmusic8567 Depends how patient you are. It's right on the cusp. 2-3 weeks out. If you can stomach it, I'd suggest waiting. In the mean time read the rules, which are already out. Then when the indexes come out, you take a look at those two factions (and maybe some breakdown videos if that helps you) and think about which has a playstyle you think you'd most enjoy playing.
@@shieldyourselfmusic8567 for the record, space marines have fantastic models to paint, are cheaper to collect (the nature of elite armies is that you need fewer models to fill an army) and will have support basically forever. I LOVE tyranids but the space marines are marketed as the beginner army for a reason
@@shieldyourselfmusic8567 Go off of whether you want more precise painting or more forgiving, but more detailed work. Nids allow for more of an organic and less precise hand, but are have more little that need to be addressed than most power armour models (aka Chaos Space Marines). On the fluff (lore/background) side, you can pick between being the actual "evil" bad guys with Chaos or the natural predator/eldritch horror that's the universal adversary of all -- but that is not itself "evil" in the same way as Chaos. Finally, play-wise, Nids and CSM both have fairly nice presences in all of the different phases of play, so you get a nicely balanced game from at least the casual perspective. I absolutely love Tyranids, personally. It's fun to read books where we pop up all the time against every faction, and if you like being creative, I think it's the easiest of my armors to kitbash (customize models), too! Hope you love whatever you pick and if you don't, don't give up the hobby -- lots of people are always happy to trade to give you a try with different armies. Cheers.
This is literally a psychic version of the haurespex lol we want to know more about the Norn Emissery!! imagine a knight sized combat beast with tendrils like a octopus 🐙😍🙏🏼
I get the feeling GW is really really pumping anti-psyker stuff this edition. They're showing off LOTS of it, it's more potent than it was in 8th and 9th, and whole in those editions you rarely saw anti-psykers used because they sucked in other contests, in 10th I'm seeing a lot of profiles like this guy who are good on their own AND great against psykers. But the psyker keyword doesn't bring with it any advantages, anti-psyker stuff just keys off it. It's one thing when your standard opponent fields just 0-2 psykers, but... Are TSons and GK in big trouble this edition?
Just have to line that up with my Hammerhead Railgun and I have a 50% chance of killing if I hit (if it doesn't make it's FNP). OVERALL a 28% of one shotting it, but i will take those odds against this behemoth
D6 attack rolls are just pure garbage and I wish would just go away, NOTHING should be so swingy that it can do NOTHING for the effort to get it to do it, imo. It's weapons REALLY leave a lot to be desired, abilities on them be damned. oh goody, 1 ranged attack, oh yay 2 measly melee attacks, just utterly stupid.
Not my favourite, but maybe because the Kraken paint job makes it look busier than it needs to be. Head is the main culprit, the white on the upper "lip" is probably what makes it look like a doofus I think it'll look nice in my black and yellow but I'm still more interested to see the leapers and tyranid prime in action as my army is speedy speed bugz and heavily Ravener-themed. Whether or not I keep this model is down to the OC stat. A big slow defensive target needs good OC or at least be a huge force multiplier with buffs or something
My friend wants to start out with tyranids but now I’m being drawn to them. Was hoping to split the leviathan box but now I want to keep them 😭 (Mirror matches are not an option as I hate them)
Lore wise nids fight alot though if you need the justification for a mirror match, when two different hive fleets meet they usually cannibalize eachother to take the best traits of both.
I've had a thought. What if the tyranids are just leaving their own galaxy because there is a species far bigger than them and so to anything in this universe they are huge but in their universe they are just bugs. It's quite a weird theory though and I don't know tyranid lore so I have no idea how accurate that is.
dont like the ass up pose how is that genetically engineered to be perfect when all it is is a perfect target if the ranged attack is the mist it has around it why cant it fire in melee but atleast its something to get its pathetic to hit buff active even if its barely useable vs the things you want to hit with it just looks disappointing, especially since it will almost guaranteed be overpriced since your paying for useless junk
I'm not sure what's weirdest about your attempt at a post -- complaining that a Tyranid tick has an "ass up pose," your allergy to punctuation, or the fact that you're the sort of person who took five minutes out of his day to be as negative as possible for no reason.
UPDATE - it also has a 6+ feel no pain aura to nearby tyranid organisms. It could be a nice thing to have in a monster mash army as a tough bug that's likely to be low on the priority list but makes the rest of your advancing force tougher?
now, after the new balance changes, do you think, the change to anti-psyker 4+ was sensible? As I would rather want to use the 2+ rule, while fighting my friends grey knight army xD
I think that flammer main objective is to deal any wound so he gets +1 to hit
I'm just so glad it's not humanoid. Please give us more bold monstrous sculpts like this guy!
The tyranids don't create monsters from scratch, they use the DNA of devoured creatures, it makes sense that at least some of them are humanoid as it is by far the most common and versatile form
Me too. Although some of the best nid models are humanoid, like Tyrant and Carnifex and Warriors
It looks like they have just used the venomcrawler as a base
@@blockwithaglock96 versitile yes but not actually effective. Also if they cant edit too much or combine then id like to know how they becaime space fairing.
@@firmak2 they were made by the old ones and they can definitely combine dna , but in a galaxy filled with humanoid species that wield guns it makes sense that at least some of them would be humanoid and wielding guns
From the look of it, being a psyker is just a straight up malus in 10th.
You don't have access to schools anymore, the psykic attacks don't do MW, and there is a lot, A LOT of units with anti psylers roaming around with even a couple of anti psyker defenses in some cases.
Agreed, psykers dont have access to anything that non psykers dont - psyker buffs are universally just things that non psykers get without that keyword
Clearly someone at GW was touched inappropriately by the Warp at a young age and now sees fit to purge psychic from the tabletop.
@@mintw4241 That’s not how the game works. Those armies will not have the same buffs on a nine psyker, so that you get the same for the same points. You want that buff/ability, you will have to take the psyker, but it will open you up to anti-psyker abilities.
PS: 9th had MWs etc. by none-psykers and had lots of anti-psyker abilities as well. The mini game is gone and the amount of options is reduced in 10th, but that goes for all characters, not just psykers. On the plus side: you are no longer limited to attempt a psychic power only once per battleround.
In an edition that’s supposed to be less killy, psychic attacks have been shown to have more efficient stat lines than non-psychic attacks, so now there’s a bit more risk v reward in taking psykers
@@davidgantenbein9362 remember if their armies are not above power over others, they will complain
Definitely love the bug ascethetic. I wish more tyranids were bug-like
the bug aesthetic... reallly? it's just a rip off the chaos venom crawler turned into a tyrannid... :/
@@seblapin I don't know what that is lol sorry. I just always think of starship troupers
I'm tired of 4 armed humanoid shapes too. I want bugs and abominations.
@@seblapin just looked it up, I definitely see the comparison.
@@seblapin both look like a tick
people don't complain about tanks that look almost identical, but suddenly complain when two drastically different things share a body type with a real world animal
"Babe wake up it's time to preview another unit with Anti-Psyker"
Eldar Farseer: "Yes honey"
But for real it seems like there's a whole slew of Anti-Psyker profiles we've seen recently!
For a psychic heavy army eldar aren't at risk from anti psyker stuff compared to tzeentch or grey knights, eldar spells tend to be concentrated into one or two powerful casters instead of spread around the whole army, so you can always hide the farseer
What other armies/units have anti-psyker abilities?
As a Custodes player, I’m glad I don’t have any psykers myself, but I also can’t see myself bringing any SoS because all the anti-psyker feels like it’s just punishing all the psyker-heavy armies for having an extra phase last edition. It just seems so weird to have anti-psyker as a dedicated unit role, but the psykers themselves just don’t bring enough threat to the table to justify that.
"Laughs in D-cannon"
@lfork6958 As a Grey Knight player I appreciate that, because the rules revealed so far for psychic heavy armies just don't justify the bullying from anti-psyker abilities. 😢
Now I just want the stats of the Neurotyrant!
I KNOW RIGHT! Their definity keeping that a secret on purpose.
A distraction carnifex, that distracts from you actual carnifexes. Interesting 🧐
Probably my favourite model from the tyranid side of the box. Very bug like which I only see as a plus
This and the neurotyrant look so damn cool. Glad to see more “out there” crazy monster designs too! Humanoid figures get very old for an army that’s supposed to be otherworldly monsters made up of reconstructed biomass.
Surprised "Psychoclastic Torrent" doesn't have the [psychic] keyword
Unless the thing is literally just barfing hallucinogens onto their target...which honestly wouldn't be too out of place for a nid.
I think it's because the torrent is releasing an acidic cloud, not actually reaching into the warp or whatever.
d6+1 attack hurts this thing a lot love everything else thou for its point cost and you know its not going to be cheep its bad could use a 2d6 torrent or a lot more stable melee
You didn't mention (outside of GK and TS comments) that the Psyker keyword for leaders will mean that any bodyguard units that include one will also count as Psyker unit. Genestealers being led by a Patriach, Librarian termie leading terminators, weirdboy in an Ork buy unit, all of those d6+1 attacks are now shredding through those bodyguard models due to the anti-psyker keyword.
Damn, 10th Edition is so far crystallizing into being VERY anti-psyker, seeing as some armies have just crazy strong counters to them and Black Templars as a whole being hard counters to factions like Grey Knights or Thousand Sons. Not only are Psychic powers a shadow of what they were the previous Editions, but now even having the Psyker keyword will open you up to stiff punishment.
Agreed, BT Trait is not only autowin against Psyker Armies, it's also plain better than every other divergent SM trait by a huge margin. Not hating on BTs, but how can GW not see this???
I don’t agree on BT being such a hard counter. The 4++ seems strong, until you realize that no psychic gun had AP above 1. So it works against nemesis force weapons (they are AP2), but an AP reduction of 1 in melee isn’t the be end of all abilities. Same goes for the anti-psyker 4+, BT already wound basic GK on 4+, so it’s against terminators and baby carriers, but then again, does nothing against other vehicles that aren’t psykers (that leaves about the dreadnaughts).
Don’t get me wrong, it’s still good and all, but I doubt it will hard counter GK as the majority of armor saves and wound rolls will stay the same for BT.
Is Mop still viable in 10th?
It’s a response to the obscene “that’s 30 mortals” psychic phases of 9th I assume
@@milktenders6219 no, them taking away the mortal wound potential from TS and GK is. The anti-psyker rules are weird when they already have done that.
By the way, the only times i have seen a crapton of Mortals was when completely broken Zoanthropes came out, and from the utterly stupid Imperial Knight stratagem where they just transform damage into mortals.
So ething that might by the way be MORE prevalent when they give stuff Devastating wounds X+ and Rerolls! Which they are!
hmm this will be the bane of Grey Knights and Thousands Sons.
Another awesome video as always!
Thanks for all the videos!
Never stop making these
Looks menacing and its' purpose is adequately scary. Gorgeous beast.
This model looks awesome
It looks like a tick, to that I say. "SPOON!"
I think fielding 3 of these would be cool.
A wild vore beast has appeared.
The fleshy venomcrawler.
Looks like a solid DISTRACTION CARNIFEX.
As a KSons player, i feel like every other unit has an anti-psyker keyword without psykers having a significant upsides
I'm starting to think my astropath won't be able to take it out with his force staff.
Not with that attitude he won't! Remember, the Emperor protects! Now charge for Terra!!!
Jeremy is there and he is hungry
It reminds me of Venomcrawler, visually and I suppose their cost will be similar
I had a venomcrawler its siluethe is literally the same from the face tentacles that are curved on the dame way to its overall torax
@@blecao yeah, Venomcrawler was one of my first miniatures, I bought a start collecting csm box
Remind me again, what good is the "psyker" keyword? And what exactly does the psychic keyword do for weapons? All it seems to do is make anyone who plays grey knights quit playing until it actually does something useful.
It's more subtle than that. By and large every weapon that has been labeled psychic has had a more efficient profile than non-psychic similar weapons. Also this is still speculation but once everything is looked at holistically with points included it will be more clear how things sit in how powerful things are. Anti-psychic weapons/models/kit could easily be costed at a higher premium than things they are countering, they certainly will be FAR less cost effective when NOT used against psychic at minimum. The reason things have looked like this is since there is no more psychic tests and deny the witch etc. Everything that is psychic is just allowed to work while being on average more powerful/efficient against similar non-psychic options and the counterplay has been moved into other rules and weapons themeselves and I'm sure will (at least eventually) be costed appropriately.
How would it work in close combat against an psycher that's in a Squad (like thousand sons) can it pick that model with it's attacks to use the 2+ roll?
Like the flavor of it just nomming better on a weakening unit, the little scavenger
Cute isn't it?
Can Feeding Frenzy kick in mid combat?
If you slow roll, and successfully deal some damage on your first attack, do the rest of your attacks gain the benefit?
I don't think so, slow rolling the single attack profile wouldn't change the characteristics of the attack as the roll is supposed to be simultaneous.
Having a second unit engaging and activated first in the combat phase could potentially change how the Psycophage Attacks would be modified if the target unit suffers enough casualties
Looks alot like the Venomcrawler I just built
Looks awesome but I don't see it being played a lot to be honest. But: we haven't seen the Nid index, we'll see
I like the model and the lore a lot. I'm afraid of him being a little too situational to be really useful, especially after some of the early battle reports I've seen. We'll see!
Psychophage ? No, it's a Psycho killer (i shouldn't be the only one whit that song in mind)
Just watching some valrak heresy and you pulled me away into watching this. 😂
I’ll probably take 2 just because they’re cute
So like, what value will the haruspex add? I mean, they are both feeder beasts, but it feels like this is some type of replacement with an anti-psyker twist. I know their stats/rules are different, so I mean more lorewise.
i think the difference is the haruspex is meant to be diving into lines of the enemy consuming as much as it’s stomach could possibly hand compared to this being a more hold back, more targeted creature
Isn't it monstrous? You can just shoot the flamer in melee right?
How is a Feel no pain 5+ a 50% durability increase?
Like it is not about a 33%?
May be missing something but I think he double dipped the math. If the normal save is about 67% and the shrug is 33% that looks like 50% durability but you are only shrugging 33% of the not saved rolls. So technically its about 33% of the 33% not saved (assuming no ap) which is ~11% of total wounds shrugged, but 33% increase in durability for unsaved wounds.
It's 50% because the wounds you save with the first 33% can themselves be saved 33% of the time later 😊
Why would you take in account the armor (against an undefined weapon) and the FNP to determine the FNP durability increase?
I think he just didn't notice, since he actually points out in the video that the FNP is actually a 33% damage absortion
A 5+ FNP is a 50% durability increase because you can re-save already saved wounds
Compare it to "how much extra wounds would this model need, to get the same result (death), without fnp". With 10 wounds, you need 10 unsaved damage to kill it, if it wound not have fnp. With fnp 5+, you would need on average 15 damage to kill it, since 5 of these will be saved. So it behaves (on average) the same way as a 15 wound model, which is 50% more wounds.
How does it do against a Kill Rig?
So they gave Grey Knights a 2+ Save that they will never ever get to use because all the Anti-Psyker 2+ Devastating wounds models will just completely shit out mortal wounds against them, and they don't even have a FNP against it anymore. WTF?
Gotta love that anti-psykers will deal more mortal wounds than psykers in 10th
GK are honestly getting a bit fucked, but so far 10th has a few too many “this unit kills X thing without fail”
"All the anti-psyker +2" dude it's barely a handful of data sheets when looking at the grand scheme of each faction, let alone the entire game. It's not like they won't have points cost associated with being anti-psyker, which can easily be tuned to being just efficient enough to warrant using against psykers and utterly horrible value against everything else AND is just as capable of being targeted and eliminated just like any other unit in the game that is prioritized for any number of reasons. T
This is like crying anti-vehicle weapons aren't utterly non-existent because THEY'RE efficient against their intended target and have more viable targets against vehicle skew factions/lists.
Yes, shocker. Every faction has explicit options for anti-whatever and that will find more value in skew lists focusing on that. Yet we still see hordes used, elite infantry used, vehicles used and even skew lists focusing on them despite there being plenty of things made explicitly to counter them! Psykers don't get to be an exception! Wow!
@@williampounds5191 it’s an awful lot of datasheets we have seen at least, plus i have not seen Anti-Vehicle 2+ anywhere. Also, you can opt not to play 10 tanks in your Guard army. You can not opt to play TS or GK without Psykers!
@@williampounds5191 if Psykers had some kind of special utility then anti-psyker would feel more balanced, but Psykers seem to be like any other unit except with the psychic keyword attached so anti-psyker just punishes certain models for existing.
I just want to know how many points it's worth...
hey man im so lost with the 40k game - im about to start and so confused about which faction to chose - any ideas on some good starters?
In my opnion you can learn just about any faction and adapt to any playstyle. What you really should be going for is picking the faction whose models and lore you like the best.
Unless you're the kind of person that pays someone else to do it, you will spend a LOT of hours painting your models. So it's a good idea, IMO, to make sure they're models you like.
@@Bear_Andersen Thanks mate - Ive got my eye on Chaos Marines or Tyranids - Should I wait for this 10th edition to come out before commiting?
@@shieldyourselfmusic8567 Depends how patient you are.
It's right on the cusp. 2-3 weeks out.
If you can stomach it, I'd suggest waiting.
In the mean time read the rules, which are already out.
Then when the indexes come out, you take a look at those two factions (and maybe some breakdown videos if that helps you) and think about which has a playstyle you think you'd most enjoy playing.
@@shieldyourselfmusic8567 for the record, space marines have fantastic models to paint, are cheaper to collect (the nature of elite armies is that you need fewer models to fill an army) and will have support basically forever. I LOVE tyranids but the space marines are marketed as the beginner army for a reason
@@shieldyourselfmusic8567 Go off of whether you want more precise painting or more forgiving, but more detailed work. Nids allow for more of an organic and less precise hand, but are have more little that need to be addressed than most power armour models (aka Chaos Space Marines).
On the fluff (lore/background) side, you can pick between being the actual "evil" bad guys with Chaos or the natural predator/eldritch horror that's the universal adversary of all -- but that is not itself "evil" in the same way as Chaos.
Finally, play-wise, Nids and CSM both have fairly nice presences in all of the different phases of play, so you get a nicely balanced game from at least the casual perspective.
I absolutely love Tyranids, personally. It's fun to read books where we pop up all the time against every faction, and if you like being creative, I think it's the easiest of my armors to kitbash (customize models), too! Hope you love whatever you pick and if you don't, don't give up the hobby -- lots of people are always happy to trade to give you a try with different armies. Cheers.
This is literally a psychic version of the haurespex lol we want to know more about the Norn Emissery!! imagine a knight sized combat beast with tendrils like a octopus 🐙😍🙏🏼
Big Chungus the Moncher!
Why not just 4/5 or d3+3 attacks. I just hate this highly random stuff.
I get the feeling GW is really really pumping anti-psyker stuff this edition. They're showing off LOTS of it, it's more potent than it was in 8th and 9th, and whole in those editions you rarely saw anti-psykers used because they sucked in other contests, in 10th I'm seeing a lot of profiles like this guy who are good on their own AND great against psykers. But the psyker keyword doesn't bring with it any advantages, anti-psyker stuff just keys off it.
It's one thing when your standard opponent fields just 0-2 psykers, but... Are TSons and GK in big trouble this edition?
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The unit seems like it will never see competitive play. But great for local games as it looks awesome.
If it’s not anti-tank it won’t be on the table.
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It's heavy support ? Right ?
Heavy support doesn't exist any more.
When Leviathan box comes out, is that the Tyranid codex or does that come out later on?..
Later on
Later, think September for the codex.
Just have to line that up with my Hammerhead Railgun and I have a 50% chance of killing if I hit (if it doesn't make it's FNP).
OVERALL a 28% of one shotting it, but i will take those odds against this behemoth
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D6 attack rolls are just pure garbage and I wish would just go away, NOTHING should be so swingy that it can do NOTHING for the effort to get it to do it, imo. It's weapons REALLY leave a lot to be desired, abilities on them be damned. oh goody, 1 ranged attack, oh yay 2 measly melee attacks, just utterly stupid.
Not my favourite, but maybe because the Kraken paint job makes it look busier than it needs to be. Head is the main culprit, the white on the upper "lip" is probably what makes it look like a doofus
I think it'll look nice in my black and yellow but I'm still more interested to see the leapers and tyranid prime in action as my army is speedy speed bugz and heavily Ravener-themed. Whether or not I keep this model is down to the OC stat. A big slow defensive target needs good OC or at least be a huge force multiplier with buffs or something
My friend wants to start out with tyranids but now I’m being drawn to them. Was hoping to split the leviathan box but now I want to keep them 😭
(Mirror matches are not an option as I hate them)
Lore wise nids fight alot though if you need the justification for a mirror match, when two different hive fleets meet they usually cannibalize eachother to take the best traits of both.
d6+1 really hasn’t got me excited as a Nid player
Not a great edition to play Grey Knights. But that's most editions, honestly.
Doesnt seem big enough, looks like a converted venom crawler
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HOLD UP!!
LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF THE EMPEROR IN THE NEW CODEX!
Face, chest, skin... Even his one hand is moving...
I've had a thought. What if the tyranids are just leaving their own galaxy because there is a species far bigger than them and so to anything in this universe they are huge but in their universe they are just bugs. It's quite a weird theory though and I don't know tyranid lore so I have no idea how accurate that is.
Thats a pretty old fan theory, that they arent hunting in New galaxies but running from a terror that is beyond what we know.
@@FistSlaminElite1999 Okay. Thank you for the information. It's still terrifying though!
I just want to say all of this lamenting the prevalence of anti-psykers and the weakening of psychic powers is totally justified and im here for it. 😂
Not dangerous at all
What is it with these bazillion anti-psyker units we get... And why does this thing get a 5+ FNP for no reason, when everyone else loses theirs.
Looks great but wholy shiet it seems to suck
Too bad this model is redundant as there is no need to take psykers anymore
I'm sure Grey Knights and Thousand Sons will completely agree.
dont like the ass up pose
how is that genetically engineered to be perfect when all it is is a perfect target
if the ranged attack is the mist it has around it
why cant it fire in melee
but atleast its something to get its pathetic to hit buff active even if its barely useable vs the things you want to hit with it
just looks disappointing, especially since it will almost guaranteed be overpriced since your paying for useless junk
I'm not sure what's weirdest about your attempt at a post -- complaining that a Tyranid tick has an "ass up pose," your allergy to punctuation, or the fact that you're the sort of person who took five minutes out of his day to be as negative as possible for no reason.
Love the model but hate its rules and statline 🤩🙄🥱