I know I'm late, I'm sorry! But Lets unbox this and I want you to drop your questions! I'll answer as many of them as I can in the full review. Hit me up on twitch.tv/mattmoniz or discord.gg/mattmoniz if you have any questions!
We true fans would see your videos even if you're late Matt! Chill 😆💛 We don't watch the videos solely for the laptops but also bcoz YOU review them! ✨
So....after all this use...im an UX designer with a little of Motion Graphics background....should i pull the plug on these new XPS 17/15? Good channel Sir, you got a fan from Argentina!
the next step for windows laptop manufacturer is to make the laptop can work at full speed without being plugged to the wall , this is why apple 16 inch macbook pro is still the best .
@@rayaneskyoxis9318 i find that that's overrated. on any intensive task I still plug my macbook pro 16 into the wall, just like with any windows laptop. For just doing simple tasks, not throttling when unplugged is basically useless. for myself, there's reasons to use macbook but not throttling when unplugged isn't one of them
@@fpalitang its different for everyone for me if i do heavy task its on my pc tower but on the go i would like to have something that work at full speed even if i dont have acces to a wall plug.
Hi Matt, appreciate your videos. Some questions I had: 1) detailed size comparisons with the old xps15, and some other newer laptops like the Razer blade 15, GS66 would be nice 2) is the power brick able to charge the laptop over full gaming/content creation load 3) thermals and power limits under prolonged gaming/content creation load 4) your thoughts on the 60hz display vs other options with higher refresh rate. Thanks so much! Looking forward to the full review
Love how Just Josh looks for those publicly unnoticed but quite real issues of modern laptops to expose them. Wish he’d do a Spectre 15 2020 review so he brings more light on the HDR/dwm.exe issue everyone is having with it.
@@deVyte Got it on dell business website. You just gotta wait for a sale like the cyber day where they had the model for 17% off one of the day. Then there's also discount code you can get from dell, I randomly get mine in the mail that give you 10-15% off and stacked it cash back app from your credit card. End up with half a kidney, and hopefully nothing else try to take it haha.
Here's a tip for anyone looking to buy a new laptop, extra important for people interested in Dell products: Dell XPS might be a fancy and premium laptop, however - this laptop has so many quality control issues that do not change over the years. That kind of purchase from Dell isn't worth that amount of money and trouble that will be caused to you. I suggest everyone that consider buying a unit of Dell XPS to take a look at Dell Community Forums or over Reddit and you'll experience true reviews and not just unboxing or irrelevant reviews on TH-cam. Sadly, the words I'm saying are marked with my experience from owning Dell XPS 15 7590 (last year's model). Ps. I pleasantly watch your content - keep doing a great job, nonetheless I feel like this topic has to be bolder and louder on TH-cam.
Totally agree. I had a lot of issues on one and none on another. Question for myself is do I pay $1000 or a kidney more for an equivalent Thinkpad or take my chances?
Thank you for the excellent review Matthew, as always. I ordered mine 06/15 and received it last week so long to wait... And I've got the touchpad issue... So after struggling with the customer service which is by the way as bad as we can see everywhere on internet (with 6 different people by mail and phone), they just tell me to send it back, wait for the refund and order a new one... They refused to simply replace it and did not recommend me an official Dell repairer (stunning!)... What a shame, so I did what they asked me but if the new one has the same issue...well bye Dell I can't wait 4 months to have a laptop at this price with no default and a very bad customer service. I ordered a new one because as a content creator which prefer windows environment this laptop is a beast despite of the touchpad issue, and I hope this bad experience will not last with this company. So my advice for guys who want this laptop, you don't need to have it urgently, and you need to be patient with the customer service, which can really annoy you and that is understandable with a laptop this expensive.
I ordered a custom built XPS 15 9500 on 07/10. So I know it was built after they claim to have implemented trackpad manufacturing corrections. Only issue I can find so far is some slight stuttering in Bluetooth audio. I see Killer networking has an updated driver that is not currently available on Windows or Dell. Not sure what to make of your service interaction as I know others had units replaced.
I work IT and I just had a client come in with this exact laptop for setup and it was loud out of the box. I was certain it was a driver error though because when I updated everything through Windows and Dell Support Assist, it worked just fine. Still it kind of scared me that they're putting semi-desktop level power in a thin laptop with not that many places for cooling.
Love your honest approach to the battery drain, that's what the reviews are all about. Unfortunately, many others either don't mention it or do so as a small note while for some it could be major issue. Thank you.
I love basically all of your content, and am a huge long-time fan! Keep it up; soon, you'll be setting the trends for all the others. Your videos are the most informative, though well-produced and funny videos I've seen! :)
It's amazing you get multiple options for the XPS in your region. Whilst in ours (Asia Pacific) we only get to choose with a base 16550ti or 4k 1650ti both with MacBook Pro 16 prices. The MacBook Pro 16 is looking to be a better buy in our case.
The clicks on the 15" when resting your finger on it was a fault which often comes with the 17" also. I believe it's a problem with the stuff holding it in being too loose, but I heard that it's fixed with the newest orders / shipments. Don't quote me on that, though ;)
Please prioritize the follow-up video, I'm really keen to hear what you have to say about it due to the previous controversies regarding quality control
I'm planning to get an XPS 15 and this power drain issue you just mentioned would be a really big deal for me. I'm curious if this could be a problem for both laptops.
I bought a Dell XPS 15 L502x in 2011 and it still packs a punch for regular work and games smoothly. Skyrim and StarCraft 2 on low graphics runs smoothly. It's an i5-2410M, 2.3 GHz, 8GB RAM, GeForce GT 525M. Its build quality is really good, screen at 1080p is still crisp albeit with a bit of a leak at the corner, a white backlit keyboard and loads of gaming memories. So I think using a laptop for a decade is good, but now I think it is time for an upgrade. I am from India, so my options are a bit limited. What would you all suggest I go for? Something that lasts for another 10 years.
Been waiting for 17 inch notebooks to reappear for a decade or so. -- Though I have to admit: I rather wait another year to get a XPS17 with Ryzen... if Dell can bring themselves to switch horses. Also the Webcam: 1080p is a must in a high end notebook. I guess the Surface line, which is not much thicker and only has a minimally wider bezel, has spoiled me.
The WiFi / Network performance is impacted by the Killer Software Suite. This has been a known issue for Dell systems using the Killer Network cards and the installed Killer Suite for some time. The XPS 9500 and 9700 are no different. When comparing WiFi / Network performance against other systems the Dells are usually 300 to 400% slower! If you uninstall the Killer software and use the Killer remover software found on the Killer Site @t and then download and install only the Drivers your WiFi / Network performance will improve considerably!
Great to see that they addressed the trackpad issue... still probably one of my fav laptops, sexyness factor, besides the macs. But I just cant understand why that so many laptops out there cant compare to Apples when it comes to sound. Its like night and day.
It actually depends on the fps a camera is capable of recording. All screens "flicker", which it actually refreshes the screen. Naked to the eye, and it's usually the reason why our eyes get stressed.
Ezra Vizcarra 240 FPS slow mo on IPhone see's absolutely not flicker on my 4K IPS laptop displays. While on my other HP Spectre 15 2020 OLED you can see it without even going slow mo.
@@ezravizcarra4172 I'm really sensitive to screen flicker. DLP and certain LCD screens (especially the ones that alternate RGB) have visible flicker to me. Others aren't visible to me but still give me eye strain (especially some PWM screens.) To my eyes, the XPS 17 4k screen is stable and doesn't cause eye strain.
I get anxiety when I see such thin bezels on a laptop. I usually use the side bezels a lot to lift the lid or someties even turn the laptop (YES! from edge of a centre style hinged laptop). Mine is an inspiron gaming series and I've had NO issues with the hinge for the past 3 years. You don't need to be gentle with the hinge, just know how to use it
I need your help. No one ever talks about high-end laptops for extreme productivity. I am a Doctoral student, own an investment firm, and run a nonprofit. At any given time I am running Word, Excel, & Powerpoint with 5 or 10 projects on each one. Then, I am running 3 internet browsers (Microsoft Edge, Firefox, and Chrome) with anywhere from 100 to 150 tabs at the same time. Multi-tasking is critical. I run a 13" HP Spectre (4 years old) with 8GB RAM which freezes up constantly. I also run a 17" HP Envy (Almost 5 years old) with 16GB RAM which freezes up a lot as well. I am constantly having to shut down and restart. Under normal usage, both laptops are awesome. What is a great high-end laptop for productivity that won't freeze up? I am running two 27" Dell P2720D monitors. Finally, I travel a lot and being portable would be helpful. Thanks
Please don't apologize we love your videos. I just got the DELL XPS 17 and I think its great. My only problem with it is that its hard to open. I'm looking forward to your review.
I spent $4500 USD on a precision 5520 a few years ago and honestly the thing has pretty much completely fallen apart despite the premium build quality. I just ordered an XPS 17, hopefully it will fare better.
Hey Mat, the reason that there's some flex on the display is because you have the fhd+ display which has a plastic front and a plastic bezel. With the Uhd+ display config. the display unit is very stiff and so it doesn' flex almost all. It isn't because of the thickness or sturdiness of the almunium, it's because of the plastic front.
I have 5 questions with Dell XPS 17 : 1. Can I use two power bricks to solve the charging problem ? 2. Can I disable the dedicated GPU somehow ? 3. Can I use high refresh external display for gaming ? 4. Can I use e-GPU with it ? 5. Does the battery continue to drain while using e-GPU with an External Display ?
Definitely would like if you happen to a full review on this particular laptop as I’m needing to upgrade my laptop & this one based on your brief overview sounds fairly good, Another good vid definitely like the way you explain things cause you look for certain things I look for which some might think of as being fussy.....Keep up the great work....Cheers!
Beautiful machine from dell,although 3 things to make it complete next year - 1. 1080p webcam (like the surface laptops) 2. Better Speakers (like the macbooks) 3. 120Hz display no matter the resolutions (like in the razer blades)
I could do with better speakers even when closed. Don't know why people complain about 720p webcams, I guess they watch Netflix 4k without realizing the impact that has on powering the internet. Have they solved the quality issues yet with higher refresh rates? I.e. lower quality panels needed? Also impact on battery life?
Thanks for sharing your experience about returning it. I wonder if your good trackpad was just due to good luck or because they've addressed the issue.
My model (i7-10850H + RTX 2060 Max Q) does get very hot, even with the vapor chamber. (I have the thermal profile set to "Ultra Performance", though.) I NEED ALL THE POWER I CAN GET FROM MY LAPTOP! I do wish that a full load, wouldn't drain the battery when plugged in, though.
Hi Matt just wanted to know how this new Dell XPS 17 fair against Razer Blade 17 pro for creative creators daily usage. Hope that you can include this in one of your video. Thanks
Yo I think the "drainage" isn't actually a drainage of the battery. It is rather a feature to spare the battery. When it's fully loaded, the percentage will drop to about 80% and then it will go up to 100% again. I'm probably wrong, but I've seen my Lenovo doing this. It'ssupposed to increase the batterys lifespan. I'd guess you could change that in the bios/uefi. Maybe you can adress this in your review!
I heard that this XPS 17 might have some charging issues. While it does come with a 130w charger, there have been some reports of it only pulling 100w max. In other cases, like video rendering or gaming, the processor will pull more than the 130w from the charger, getting the rest from the battery and causing it to drain slowly. Other than that, looks like a solid laptop, and I might buy one in the next year or so.
can you please do a comparison between the dell 17 and the macbook pro 16. Love to know which of the 2 machines run cooler. Pushes their cpu to the limit with outthermal throttling. Also which screen is better as well as the keyboard and they trackpad. Thank you!
So looking forward to the full review. I picked up an Alienware M15 R3 with 2080 Super, 300 Mhz, for a great price but the battery life is only 2 hours if your lucky. It does stay cool though compared to the R2 model. I don't need a full gaming laptop but would like something with some battery life. This unit with 1080P seems like the way to go but I will wait for your full review.
Hi, Matthew. I would like to know what's the maximum Cinebench R20 score you can achieve with 8 cores by using ultra power mode. I saw a video where 6 cores model got +-3300 on this mode. And I think 8 cores will not get much higher result bcoz of termal. I'm planning to buy this laptop and want to figure out if there is any sense to get 8 cores model instead of 6 cores in term of cpu performance.
Hi, I’m looking for a laptop to start my studies as a developper and I am really torn between the 15 & 17. The 17 attracts me because of the better thermal cooling, but the 15 is probably a better choice due to the home-school traffic, but i am looking for the best bang for my buck. What do you think about this dilemma, and do ypu think the xps is a good choice for my needs as a developper workinh with lines of code? Maybe i should be looking at a gaming laptop instead?
@@DroneCinematography Anywhere from 1 to 10 hours. What I mean is if you're just browsing the web or editing a document at half brightness, the battery will last a long time. But if watching a 4k 60 video with the brightness on max, you might only get 2-3 hours. (I haven't tried that, btw.) But if I were to game or attempt editing a 4k 60 video on battery, I would most likely only get 1-2 hours.
Great, I was just streaming a show on the XPS 9700 and it went to Black screen with the round Dell Logo! Now it will not boot and was extremely hot. My guess is it overheated but now it will not boot, the screen stays and the fans are on. Been an hour and nothing!
My main concern with the Dell laptop is the battery over time ..... Also will you compare the dell 17 laptop to the famous MBP 16 please??????? Overall if you have a choice , which one would you pick ?????
Where did you find the FHD matte version paired with the RTX 2060? On the Dell website it seems that you can only get the glossy 4K display if you want the RTX graphics?
For me, the 9700 and 9500 are hard to open. I mean hold it down and find a spot to pry open the lid hard to open! We had the 9500 for my son and he could not open it.
Can you not only test your battery drain but can you also test if you're getting the full 130w from the wall. There are a lot of reports of people only getting 105w from the wall.
I have seen an article where they say that usb-c is limited to 100W and that dell has some handshaking to tell the charger it is ok to push 130W. They suspect this is faulty in some laptops and hope it can be fixed with a firmware update. Still even at 130W with the GPU maxed out I wont be surprised if it trickles down. Afaik even the macs have that issue.
Can you manually control the fan speed ? Can you try out the CS:GO 1080p white fps counter ? I am thinking of buying it for playing CS:GO plugged into 240hz monitor
This would be an easy buy for me if they had put a number-pad on it, coming from a 17inch Alienware R4, I don’t think I could go back to using the row of keys up top and the shift combos for +-/* when I’m coding.
My biggest question is whether or not I could actually sit on my couch with it on my lap to watch/type. Absolutely it has the power but can you live with it?
returned the 17 as it was not for me and the cooling was not as expected and there was significant throttling that is clearly seen when laptop is run with greatly reduced ambient temps. Was not impressed with the speaker volume and the lack of a number keypad was too big of a hurdle to overcome with my number crunching . Track pad was superior however . Since I have no need for portability i am looking for other laptops with the newest powerful AMD cpu and numerical keypad.
Can you measure the key travel in mm? And maybe comment on the refresh rate? It seemed like it had some pretty bad PWM in the video. I'd like to see monitor refresh overclocking options if the Nvidia control panel enables that.
xps 17 i7-10750H with gtx 1650ti still good in 2021?? Not gaming, just looking for an awesome laptop for everyday use, maybe some light photo editing occasionally, with specs that will be good for a while. atleast 5+ years!
hey matthew, im planning to buy a laptop but im torn between the xps 15 and 17. just casual user, not a creator nor a gamer, so i will probably go for the base model. just wanted to know which base model would be the better buy, the 15's or the 17's? thank you. 😊
Does the very large size of the palm rest cause the edge of laptop to dig into the underside of your wrist or arm? Concerned about discomfort over that. Just subscribed. Very good videos here.
Hey, I am locking for a laptop which is capable of handling music production and light gaming but I really dislike the look of gaming laptops. Could you do some gaming benchmarks with the most popular games right now? And if you do could you include some of the all time classics like minecraft?
Does the screen wobble when typing? On my HP envy it's the one major fault with the design. I often rest the screen on a ketchup bottle to stop it wobbling, lol.
Have you tried tightening the hinges? It's fairly straightforward on most laptops, provided you're comfortable with taking the odd cable out. Sometimes tightening the screws at the base of the screen is sufficient and you only need to unscrew the bottom of the case
How does this compare with the Apple 5500M with 4gb? Or even the 8gb. Also is there any ability to protect the CPU and GPU from the high thermals, such as undervolting?
I have an issue with mine. If I close the lid with one and as you did in the video I can see the liquid crystals on the lower left side mash together as If something is pushing against them. I can see the thing happed with high settings on the backlight and black screen. Do you have the same issues? It doesn't happen if I close it with both hands. I don't have twitch nor discord, sorry for that.
Hi Matthew, you mention the storage being upgradeable down the road. Is it easily upgradeable with common replaceable type of storage drive or is it the Surface Laptop type of situation ?? That's my question in the comments section 😇
Yes but you got a working unit. You got lucky it seems most of them have the trackpad issue even after dell said it fixed it. I'm not taking any chances unfortunately, I hope next gen will definitely solve this issue.
The older XPS had battery swelling problems due to heating issues. Will it be solved by the new vapour chamber? I've had two gens of xps and both faced the same problem.
Why don't all laptops do these kind of screens? We need a laptop revolution! Consumer prices, not sick 3k stuff! This kind of tech should be 1500, not 3000!
Excellent simple review - would really like to see how this compares with other similar range laptops @2000 USD pricepoint. However if you could do a comparison with previous 15" models that would be appreciated (I know it doesnt really make sense) but i was really considering if this 17" would we a worthwhile upgrade from the previous 15"
How do you open yours with 1 finger? Mine, I have to hold the back of it and open it with both hands. Maybe I'm not used to it yet. First One-Handed laptop.
I know I'm late, I'm sorry! But Lets unbox this and I want you to drop your questions! I'll answer as many of them as I can in the full review. Hit me up on twitch.tv/mattmoniz or discord.gg/mattmoniz if you have any questions!
We true fans would see your videos even if you're late Matt! Chill 😆💛 We don't watch the videos solely for the laptops but also bcoz YOU review them! ✨
Aww thanks man !
I don’t buy them all only dell and sometimes Apple. I send them back
So....after all this use...im an UX designer with a little of Motion Graphics background....should i pull the plug on these new XPS 17/15?
Good channel Sir, you got a fan from Argentina!
Examine that thing thoroughly for any issues. My decision to buy or not will depend on your review.
I actually thought the box was the laptop 😂
I own this laptop and even *I* thought that the box was the laptop and that he somehow scored a charcoal gray colored one 🙃
Yeah I thought wow matt black looks really premium
They should really do a matt black one.
Me too😂😂
So the next step for dell would be :
- Macbook pro 16 speakers level
- A Potato Pro camera
the next step for windows laptop manufacturer is to make the laptop can work at full speed without being plugged to the wall , this is why apple 16 inch macbook pro is still the best .
@@rayaneskyoxis9318 LOL, but MB16 throttles a lot.
@@mrwalkan It throttles even when plugged in lol
@@rayaneskyoxis9318 i find that that's overrated. on any intensive task I still plug my macbook pro 16 into the wall, just like with any windows laptop. For just doing simple tasks, not throttling when unplugged is basically useless. for myself, there's reasons to use macbook but not throttling when unplugged isn't one of them
@@fpalitang its different for everyone for me if i do heavy task its on my pc tower but on the go i would like to have something that work at full speed even if i dont have acces to a wall plug.
Value in kidneys always gets me :)
I'll unsubscribe when he stops showing the price in kidneys.. 😂 😂 😂 JK I really like his dry sense of humor! 😂
That took me out bro! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I'm gonna need some pawns...
I really appreciate that you mention the two issues which us owners are facing and going to address the power drain issue in your review!
Hi Matt, appreciate your videos. Some questions I had:
1) detailed size comparisons with the old xps15, and some other newer laptops like the Razer blade 15, GS66 would be nice
2) is the power brick able to charge the laptop over full gaming/content creation load
3) thermals and power limits under prolonged gaming/content creation load
4) your thoughts on the 60hz display vs other options with higher refresh rate.
Thanks so much! Looking forward to the full review
"2 Kidneys" - Matthew Moniz , 2020
Hi mate, Just returned my personal one due to the power draw issue. I'm interested to know how yours is in that department.
Hey Josh. You sneaking into other reviewers' videos??
Love how Just Josh looks for those publicly unnoticed but quite real issues of modern laptops to expose them. Wish he’d do a Spectre 15 2020 review so he brings more light on the HDR/dwm.exe issue everyone is having with it.
Pretty shody
Just Josh be over here like I already got and returned this bad boy :")
Does this power draw issue apply to the XPS 15?
2000USD / 2 kidneys 😂😂😂 this is hilarious
Joke on him I bought the same model for 1.5 kidneys hehe
@@JohnDoe-we4nb where did u get it?
Sevage
3.2k CAD thats crazy. that's not even including the 12% tax that will be slapped on top of that. Jesus.
@@deVyte Got it on dell business website. You just gotta wait for a sale like the cyber day where they had the model for 17% off one of the day. Then there's also discount code you can get from dell, I randomly get mine in the mail that give you 10-15% off and stacked it cash back app from your credit card. End up with half a kidney, and hopefully nothing else try to take it haha.
All these days it was 1 kidney , now it's 2 kidneys
1:31 the aggressive tear.
We don't do asmr here
Here's a tip for anyone looking to buy a new laptop, extra important for people interested in Dell products:
Dell XPS might be a fancy and premium laptop, however - this laptop has so many quality control issues that do not change over the years.
That kind of purchase from Dell isn't worth that amount of money and trouble that will be caused to you.
I suggest everyone that consider buying a unit of Dell XPS to take a look at Dell Community Forums or over Reddit and you'll experience true reviews and not just unboxing or irrelevant reviews on TH-cam.
Sadly, the words I'm saying are marked with my experience from owning Dell XPS 15 7590 (last year's model).
Ps. I pleasantly watch your content - keep doing a great job, nonetheless I feel like this topic has to be bolder and louder on TH-cam.
Totally agree. I had a lot of issues on one and none on another. Question for myself is do I pay $1000 or a kidney more for an equivalent Thinkpad or take my chances?
Thank you for the excellent review Matthew, as always.
I ordered mine 06/15 and received it last week so long to wait... And I've got the touchpad issue... So after struggling with the customer service which is by the way as bad as we can see everywhere on internet (with 6 different people by mail and phone), they just tell me to send it back, wait for the refund and order a new one... They refused to simply replace it and did not recommend me an official Dell repairer (stunning!)... What a shame, so I did what they asked me but if the new one has the same issue...well bye Dell I can't wait 4 months to have a laptop at this price with no default and a very bad customer service.
I ordered a new one because as a content creator which prefer windows environment this laptop is a beast despite of the touchpad issue, and I hope this bad experience will not last with this company.
So my advice for guys who want this laptop, you don't need to have it urgently, and you need to be patient with the customer service, which can really annoy you and that is understandable with a laptop this expensive.
I agree their customer support is atrocious!! But they do have a nice 30 day return policy, which is better then Apples 15
I ordered a custom built XPS 15 9500 on 07/10. So I know it was built after they claim to have implemented trackpad manufacturing corrections. Only issue I can find so far is some slight stuttering in Bluetooth audio. I see Killer networking has an updated driver that is not currently available on Windows or Dell. Not sure what to make of your service interaction as I know others had units replaced.
I mean like this is literally a piece of art the edge to EDGE display is amazing it is out of this world
I work IT and I just had a client come in with this exact laptop for setup and it was loud out of the box. I was certain it was a driver error though because when I updated everything through Windows and Dell Support Assist, it worked just fine. Still it kind of scared me that they're putting semi-desktop level power in a thin laptop with not that many places for cooling.
That black colored box should be a new XPS color...it looks amazing. That black with the Arctic White would be a dream.
Love your honest approach to the battery drain, that's what the reviews are all about. Unfortunately, many others either don't mention it or do so as a small note while for some it could be major issue. Thank you.
I love basically all of your content, and am a huge long-time fan! Keep it up; soon, you'll be setting the trends for all the others. Your videos are the most informative, though well-produced and funny videos I've seen! :)
It's amazing you get multiple options for the XPS in your region. Whilst in ours (Asia Pacific) we only get to choose with a base 16550ti or 4k 1650ti both with MacBook Pro 16 prices. The MacBook Pro 16 is looking to be a better buy in our case.
The clicks on the 15" when resting your finger on it was a fault which often comes with the 17" also. I believe it's a problem with the stuff holding it in being too loose, but I heard that it's fixed with the newest orders / shipments. Don't quote me on that, though ;)
I don't know how many people noticed your cost option ( 2 Kidneys ) LOL but this is hilarious.
Please prioritize the follow-up video, I'm really keen to hear what you have to say about it due to the previous controversies regarding quality control
I am highlyimpressed the way Dell has focused on the tiny details..... Well thats gives the first impression....
I HAVE VEEN WAITING FOR THIS SO LONG ♥️
I'm planning to get an XPS 15 and this power drain issue you just mentioned would be a really big deal for me. I'm curious if this could be a problem for both laptops.
I bought a Dell XPS 15 L502x in 2011 and it still packs a punch for regular work and games smoothly. Skyrim and StarCraft 2 on low graphics runs smoothly. It's an i5-2410M, 2.3 GHz, 8GB RAM, GeForce GT 525M. Its build quality is really good, screen at 1080p is still crisp albeit with a bit of a leak at the corner, a white backlit keyboard and loads of gaming memories.
So I think using a laptop for a decade is good, but now I think it is time for an upgrade. I am from India, so my options are a bit limited. What would you all suggest I go for? Something that lasts for another 10 years.
Been waiting for 17 inch notebooks to reappear for a decade or so. -- Though I have to admit: I rather wait another year to get a XPS17 with Ryzen... if Dell can bring themselves to switch horses. Also the Webcam: 1080p is a must in a high end notebook. I guess the Surface line, which is not much thicker and only has a minimally wider bezel, has spoiled me.
Finally the video I was waiting for!!!!
Thanks for reviewing, even if lightly, the 1920x1200 screen! every other review is about the 4K touch screen.
OMG.. Even the 17" model there is no num. Pad!! What are they waiting for?!! Thats a deal breaker for me.
MAT you are great as usual. Thanks. 🌹
The WiFi / Network performance is impacted by the Killer Software Suite. This has been a known issue for Dell systems using the Killer Network cards and the installed Killer Suite for some time. The XPS 9500 and 9700 are no different. When comparing WiFi / Network performance against other systems the Dells are usually 300 to 400% slower! If you uninstall the Killer software and use the Killer remover software found on the Killer Site @t and then download and install only the Drivers your WiFi / Network performance will improve considerably!
Great to see that they addressed the trackpad issue... still probably one of my fav laptops, sexyness factor, besides the macs. But I just cant understand why that so many laptops out there cant compare to Apples when it comes to sound. Its like night and day.
Exactly like why is apple so good at sound? And also at design, i like the macbook design better than dell's
3:39 is that PWM flicker or what is that flickering on the screen?
Usually from recording with the camera. Happens to my screens when i send snapchats lol.
My XPS 17 w/4k screen has no flicker. That drive me crazy when laptops do that.
It actually depends on the fps a camera is capable of recording. All screens "flicker", which it actually refreshes the screen. Naked to the eye, and it's usually the reason why our eyes get stressed.
Ezra Vizcarra 240 FPS slow mo on IPhone see's absolutely not flicker on my 4K IPS laptop displays. While on my other HP Spectre 15 2020 OLED you can see it without even going slow mo.
@@ezravizcarra4172 I'm really sensitive to screen flicker. DLP and certain LCD screens (especially the ones that alternate RGB) have visible flicker to me. Others aren't visible to me but still give me eye strain (especially some PWM screens.) To my eyes, the XPS 17 4k screen is stable and doesn't cause eye strain.
I get anxiety when I see such thin bezels on a laptop. I usually use the side bezels a lot to lift the lid or someties even turn the laptop (YES! from edge of a centre style hinged laptop).
Mine is an inspiron gaming series and I've had NO issues with the hinge for the past 3 years.
You don't need to be gentle with the hinge, just know how to use it
Sree the lid lifter! Careful with this one you would damage the display
Dude your thumbnails are always on point
I need your help. No one ever talks about high-end laptops for extreme productivity. I am a Doctoral student, own an investment firm, and run a nonprofit. At any given time I am running Word, Excel, & Powerpoint with 5 or 10 projects on each one. Then, I am running 3 internet browsers (Microsoft Edge, Firefox, and Chrome) with anywhere from 100 to 150 tabs at the same time. Multi-tasking is critical. I run a 13" HP Spectre (4 years old) with 8GB RAM which freezes up constantly. I also run a 17" HP Envy (Almost 5 years old) with 16GB RAM which freezes up a lot as well. I am constantly having to shut down and restart. Under normal usage, both laptops are awesome. What is a great high-end laptop for productivity that won't freeze up? I am running two 27" Dell P2720D monitors. Finally, I travel a lot and being portable would be helpful. Thanks
Please don't apologize we love your videos. I just got the DELL XPS 17 and I think its great. My only problem with it is that its hard to open. I'm looking forward to your review.
I spent $4500 USD on a precision 5520 a few years ago and honestly the thing has pretty much completely fallen apart despite the premium build quality. I just ordered an XPS 17, hopefully it will fare better.
Rich dude😮
Hey Mat, the reason that there's some flex on the display is because you have the fhd+ display which has a plastic front and a plastic bezel. With the Uhd+ display config. the display unit is very stiff and so it doesn' flex almost all. It isn't because of the thickness or sturdiness of the almunium, it's because of the plastic front.
I'm waiting for my new Dell PC to be delivered! I'm from Italy and it takes several weeks. Finger crossed 🤞🏻
I have 5 questions with Dell XPS 17 :
1. Can I use two power bricks to solve the charging problem ?
2. Can I disable the dedicated GPU somehow ?
3. Can I use high refresh external display for gaming ?
4. Can I use e-GPU with it ?
5. Does the battery continue to drain while using e-GPU with an External Display ?
These are super expensive in India. The dell xps 15 starts at Rs.1.85 lakh (around 2470 USD)
I470 is more like 1 10
@@kira-ks6ig sorry typo. Its 2470
@@mr.nobody9646 cool sorry
Yeah! that's the sad reality! So I went ahead with new omen 15 high-end model it costed me 1.8L but got beast specs! Have a look :)
@@RamakrishnaNaidu thats more of a gaming laptop. I'm thinking about asus rog zephyrus g14. High specs in sleek design.
Definitely would like if you happen to a full review on this particular laptop as I’m needing to upgrade my laptop & this one based on your brief overview sounds fairly good, Another good vid definitely like the way you explain things cause you look for certain things I look for which some might think of as being fussy.....Keep up the great work....Cheers!
Beautiful machine from dell,although 3 things to make it complete next year -
1. 1080p webcam (like the surface laptops)
2. Better Speakers (like the macbooks)
3. 120Hz display no matter the resolutions (like in the razer blades)
I want AMOLED.....
And Ryzen Processors
@@chltmdwp would love this, but I think it's something that dell won't risk . hopefully it comes on
@@giulianobardecio7248 this one would be amazing too, but companies just don't seem to adopt ryzen in their higher end systems. Fingers crossed!
I could do with better speakers even when closed.
Don't know why people complain about 720p webcams, I guess they watch Netflix 4k without realizing the impact that has on powering the internet.
Have they solved the quality issues yet with higher refresh rates? I.e. lower quality panels needed? Also impact on battery life?
Thanks for sharing your experience about returning it. I wonder if your good trackpad was just due to good luck or because they've addressed the issue.
My model (i7-10850H + RTX 2060 Max Q) does get very hot, even with the vapor chamber. (I have the thermal profile set to "Ultra Performance", though.) I NEED ALL THE POWER I CAN GET FROM MY LAPTOP! I do wish that a full load, wouldn't drain the battery when plugged in, though.
Hi Matt just wanted to know how this new Dell XPS 17 fair against Razer Blade 17 pro for creative creators daily usage. Hope that you can include this in one of your video. Thanks
Yo I think the "drainage" isn't actually a drainage of the battery. It is rather a feature to spare the battery. When it's fully loaded, the percentage will drop to about 80% and then it will go up to 100% again. I'm probably wrong, but I've seen my Lenovo doing this. It'ssupposed to increase the batterys lifespan. I'd guess you could change that in the bios/uefi. Maybe you can adress this in your review!
I heard that this XPS 17 might have some charging issues. While it does come with a 130w charger, there have been some reports of it only pulling 100w max. In other cases, like video rendering or gaming, the processor will pull more than the 130w from the charger, getting the rest from the battery and causing it to drain slowly.
Other than that, looks like a solid laptop, and I might buy one in the next year or so.
can you please do a comparison between the dell 17 and the macbook pro 16. Love to know which of the 2 machines run cooler. Pushes their cpu to the limit with outthermal throttling. Also which screen is better as well as the keyboard and they trackpad.
Thank you!
No problem!
So looking forward to the full review. I picked up an Alienware M15 R3 with 2080 Super, 300 Mhz, for a great price but the battery life is only 2 hours if your lucky. It does stay cool though compared to the R2 model. I don't need a full gaming laptop but would like something with some battery life. This unit with 1080P seems like the way to go but I will wait for your full review.
Good to see that they fixed the trackpad issues
Hi Matt,, could you, please, review dell inspiron 17 inch 7000 series. I think it's nice laptop with gorges deck. 🌹
Can't wait for the review!
Hi, Matthew. I would like to know what's the maximum Cinebench R20 score you can achieve with 8 cores by using ultra power mode. I saw a video where 6 cores model got +-3300 on this mode. And I think 8 cores will not get much higher result bcoz of termal. I'm planning to buy this laptop and want to figure out if there is any sense to get 8 cores model instead of 6 cores in term of cpu performance.
It is not first vapour chamber for Dell, Alienware laptops are with it m15 and m17, also xps 13 2-in-1 9300 is with vapour chamber and it is old.
I'm just glad that they actually give atleast a full laptop for this price
SSD card change available in this laptop 🤔
Hi, I’m looking for a laptop to start my studies as a developper and I am really torn between the 15 & 17. The 17 attracts me because of the better thermal cooling, but the 15 is probably a better choice due to the home-school traffic, but i am looking for the best bang for my buck. What do you think about this dilemma, and do ypu think the xps is a good choice for my needs as a developper workinh with lines of code? Maybe i should be looking at a gaming laptop instead?
I am watching on my new XPS 17 9700 right now!
It has the i7-10875H, RTX 2060, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, and 4k+ screen.
What battery life do you get?
@@DroneCinematography 97 WHr
@@JustinDaniels Sorry, but i mean how many hours you can do without charging...
@@DroneCinematography Anywhere from 1 to 10 hours. What I mean is if you're just browsing the web or editing a document at half brightness, the battery will last a long time. But if watching a 4k 60 video with the brightness on max, you might only get 2-3 hours. (I haven't tried that, btw.) But if I were to game or attempt editing a 4k 60 video on battery, I would most likely only get 1-2 hours.
@@JustinDaniels thanks for answering. Did you really got 10 hours with minimal workloads? That would be awesome with that config...
Great, I was just streaming a show on the XPS 9700 and it went to Black screen with the round Dell Logo! Now it will not boot and was extremely hot. My guess is it overheated but now it will not boot, the screen stays and the fans are on. Been an hour and nothing!
My main concern with the Dell laptop is the battery over time ..... Also will you compare the dell 17 laptop to the famous MBP 16 please??????? Overall if you have a choice , which one would you pick ?????
Where did you find the FHD matte version paired with the RTX 2060? On the Dell website it seems that you can only get the glossy 4K display if you want the RTX graphics?
16:10 and 1080p? I'm confused... isn't it 1200p?
I am actually having battery drain issues while plugged in as well. Would be interested to see you’re testing results!
I think the touchpad should be centered around the keyboard/spacebar to feel less weird when typing, but other than that, cool ass laptop!
For me, the 9700 and 9500 are hard to open. I mean hold it down and find a spot to pry open the lid hard to open! We had the 9500 for my son and he could not open it.
Can you not only test your battery drain but can you also test if you're getting the full 130w from the wall. There are a lot of reports of people only getting 105w from the wall.
I have seen an article where they say that usb-c is limited to 100W and that dell has some handshaking to tell the charger it is ok to push 130W. They suspect this is faulty in some laptops and hope it can be fixed with a firmware update.
Still even at 130W with the GPU maxed out I wont be surprised if it trickles down. Afaik even the macs have that issue.
Can you manually control the fan speed ?
Can you try out the CS:GO 1080p white fps counter ?
I am thinking of buying it for playing CS:GO plugged into 240hz monitor
This would be an easy buy for me if they had put a number-pad on it, coming from a 17inch Alienware R4, I don’t think I could go back to using the row of keys up top and the shift combos for +-/* when I’m coding.
Dell also used the vapor chamber on the XPS 13 2 in 1 7390 (2019)
But this is even better with dual opposite outlet fans for improved cooling.
2 kidneys! Thanks for making my day!
Any time!
My biggest question is whether or not I could actually sit on my couch with it on my lap to watch/type. Absolutely it has the power but can you live with it?
Where's the RJ-45 Ethernet port? I didn't see it on the machine, or even the external adaptor.
returned the 17 as it was not for me and the cooling was not as expected and there was significant throttling that is clearly seen when laptop is run with greatly reduced ambient temps. Was not impressed with the speaker volume and the lack of a number keypad was too big of a hurdle to overcome with my number crunching . Track pad was superior however . Since I have no need for portability i am looking for other laptops with the newest powerful AMD cpu and numerical keypad.
Does the matte display has a layer of protection like the glossy one or is it delicate like for example, the one in the 2012 15-inch Macbook Pro?
Can you measure the key travel in mm? And maybe comment on the refresh rate? It seemed like it had some pretty bad PWM in the video. I'd like to see monitor refresh overclocking options if the Nvidia control panel enables that.
xps 17 i7-10750H with gtx 1650ti still good in 2021?? Not gaming, just looking for an awesome laptop for everyday use, maybe some light photo editing occasionally, with specs that will be good for a while. atleast 5+ years!
What is the battery life on that model? You said it had a 97Wh battery, but what would it be like, doing day to day tasks like web browsing?
hey matthew, im planning to buy a laptop but im torn between the xps 15 and 17. just casual user, not a creator nor a gamer, so i will probably go for the base model. just wanted to know which base model would be the better buy, the 15's or the 17's? thank you. 😊
Hows the battery life doing? Nice review
kinda wish they'd produce a 19.5" version of the XPS.
Does the very large size of the palm rest cause the edge of laptop to dig into the underside of your wrist or arm? Concerned about discomfort over that. Just subscribed. Very good videos here.
Hey, I am locking for a laptop which is capable of handling music production and light gaming but I really dislike the look of gaming laptops. Could you do some gaming benchmarks with the most popular games right now? And if you do could you include some of the all time classics like minecraft?
Does the screen wobble when typing? On my HP envy it's the one major fault with the design. I often rest the screen on a ketchup bottle to stop it wobbling, lol.
have you tried using soy sauce bottle?
Have you tried tightening the hinges? It's fairly straightforward on most laptops, provided you're comfortable with taking the odd cable out. Sometimes tightening the screws at the base of the screen is sufficient and you only need to unscrew the bottom of the case
What about dell inpiron 15 7591 i7 9th gen? Is it worth buying? Pls suggest !!!!!
How does this compare with the Apple 5500M with 4gb? Or even the 8gb. Also is there any ability to protect the CPU and GPU from the high thermals, such as undervolting?
I have an issue with mine. If I close the lid with one and as you did in the video I can see the liquid crystals on the lower left side mash together as If something is pushing against them. I can see the thing happed with high settings on the backlight and black screen. Do you have the same issues?
It doesn't happen if I close it with both hands.
I don't have twitch nor discord, sorry for that.
Performance comparison when plugged in vs. running on batter power please.
Hi Matthew, you mention the storage being upgradeable down the road. Is it easily upgradeable with common replaceable type of storage drive or is it the Surface Laptop type of situation ?? That's my question in the comments section 😇
Yes but you got a working unit. You got lucky it seems most of them have the trackpad issue even after dell said it fixed it. I'm not taking any chances unfortunately, I hope next gen will definitely solve this issue.
Great content, as always
lol thanks
The older XPS had battery swelling problems due to heating issues. Will it be solved by the new vapour chamber? I've had two gens of xps and both faced the same problem.
Also could you comment on whether I could use it closed in a vertical stand? Do the vapour chambers take care of cooling?
What a comp for hp envy x360 13 with AMD and hp Spectre x360 13t
I have been reluctant to buy Dell due to how hot they run. Would like for you to address this issue in your review.
Like you said, interested in seeing thermals and fan noise results.
Why don't all laptops do these kind of screens? We need a laptop revolution! Consumer prices, not sick 3k stuff! This kind of tech should be 1500, not 3000!
Bro how did u manage to get the laptop in 2000 dollars. You have to buy 2850 dollar model in home section and 2350 dollars I the creator edition one.
Excellent simple review - would really like to see how this compares with other similar range laptops @2000 USD pricepoint. However if you could do a comparison with previous 15" models that would be appreciated (I know it doesnt really make sense) but i was really considering if this 17" would we a worthwhile upgrade from the previous 15"
How do you open yours with 1 finger? Mine, I have to hold the back of it and open it with both hands. Maybe I'm not used to it yet. First One-Handed laptop.