What I Felt Riding KTM 390 Adv After riding GS310 for 42000 Kms | BMW GS310 Vs KTM 390 Adv
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2022
- I own BMW GS310 and have ridden the bike across India for 42K Kms (You may check the vlogs on the channel). After riding GS extensively for 2.5 years, I got an opportunity to ride @nitish's #KTM390Adventure over the weekend.
So in this video, I have covered what I felt riding KTM390 Adventure after riding GS for 42,000 Kms.
For regular updates, connect with us on
Instagram: / mysticriderprateek
Instagram: / mystictravelaffair
Enjoy the vlog & do share and support.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Playlists/Travel Videos:
LehChalehum : • LehChaleHum 2021
North East Safarnama: • North East Safarnama
Munsyari| Unexplored uttarakhand: • Munsyari | Unexplored ...
Himachal Snow Ride 2021: • Himachal Snow Ride 2021
Ladakh : Couple on R15: • Ladak | Couple on R15
Sach Pass & Spiti on R15: • Extreme Sach Pass & Sp...
Fastest K2K Record Ride: • K2K IBR Record Ride | ...
My Riding Gears:
Solace Furious Riding Jacket: solacegears.com/product/furio...
Riding Pant: solacegears.com/product/coolp...
Riding Gloves: solacegears.com/product/carbo...
Riding Boots: solacegears.com/product/xt-ev...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Riding Comfort:
Solace Bum Partner: www.solacegears.com/product/b...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Luggage Gear:
Solace Rigid Tank Bag: solacegears.com/product/rigid...
My Saddle Bag : amzn.to/2HSOGUq
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Riding Accesories:
Mobile Charger Buying Link: amzn.to/3eeHwHZ
Headlights: amzn.to/2tW1eS0
Bar End Indicators: amzn.to/2tXYYJI
Engine Oil: Motul 7100 10w50 Fully Synthetic Oil
amzn.to/2Ok8Neu
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Camera Gears I Use:
Canon 700 D: amzn.to/2uEtlc5
One Plus 6T: amzn.to/2Gv0VCL
Gorilla Tripod: amzn.to/2pXgoV9
Gopro Hero 7 Black: amzn.to/2PGIbsL
Gopro Hero 8 Black: amzn.to/3oKWeLG
DISCLAIMER: This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you click on one of the product links, I’ll receive a small commission. This help support the channel and allows us to continue to make videos like this. Thank you for the support!
Plus points of KTM 390 adventure then GS are :
1) More Power & Torque
2) Less Maintenance
3) Parts are cheap
4) Lots of Electronics(Quick Shifter, Cornering ABS, TFT Screen which is best, Traction Control)
5) Superb Handling
Less maintenance? 😆
If these are in 310gs it will be a massive takedown
1- power and torque doesn't matter in 300cc adventure bikes ( as he said a good rider will know how to maintain proper hp and nm )
2- GS has actually less maintenance ( 1year or 10K km service intervals ) rather than running to the KTM service centre every 3 months lol
3- parts are of premium, top notch and top of the line quality and no bike company can beat it
4- quick shifter, cornering abs, TFT screen and traction control are of 0 to no use in adventure bike( what are driving man ? A naked street fighter or a sports bike ? Hell it's a adventure bike lol ktm only did this to pump up the prices or else this bike would have cost 2.5 lakhs ex showroom)
5- handling and riding pleasure are the best in class in GS and no bike can even come close
@@bleeder1742 If you are telling power and torque doesnot matter then Himalyan is best or Xpulse. Ktm service cost is almost 1500 rupees.. washing and chain lube done in 300 rupees.. i use quickshifter more but it only works above 4k RPM. traction control is the safest and corening ABS .. if you dont want anything then buy Xpulse ... and save money.
For me the first and most important thing is power. because i use to have ninja 650 .. If people are coming from a lower bhp bike they wont know what is thrill that power makes.
You are telling parts are top notch. I hope you know that these parts are made in TVS factory. they are not german made.
If these parts are top notch and ride quality is best then why most riders buying bigger german made GS. 850, 1250?
@@glowingbiker1867 I rephrase it, power and torque doesn't matter in 300cc adventure bikes if you are a good rider you'll know how to maintain proper hp and nm. And I don't need to take any advice from a ninja 650 ower... Who made a horrible decision to buy that underpower bike and ironically the owner's top priority is power lol. Hell ninja 400 has the same gear to speed ratios as the ninja 650. Ninja 400 goes to 75 in 1st gear, 104 in 2 gear and goes on. Why the hell did you buy a ninja 650 if you care about power ? You wanted to fit in the superbike genre ? Wannabe ? Ninja 650 is so underpowered I can't even believe its definitely a bike for the "pick me bikers wannabe" who just want to look better in the group and don't even know about bikes at all. 1st a bike enthusiast will do is cancel out ninja 650 if he/she is going to buy a half litre class bike because that bike is dog shit and Kawasaki's the only worst bike ever made.
Very nice comparison Prateek 👍
Thanks Bulu bhai🤘
How about the vibration issues on KTM390. I saw few videos stating it as a major concern. Any idea?
Hi Bro, when do you think BMW will update their 310GS version? They are just changing colours and nothing else.
Do you have issues in finding netural gear in BMW G 310 GS?
I just want to ask you pratik.
How much ktm is comfortable for pillion ?
As you said you travlled a lot with pillion
Nice video Prateek👌
Bhaiya pangoge leke se umlingla jane ke liye chushul se koyul vale raste se ja sakte he?
Yamuna expressway has a limit of 100kmph. When I drove over it at higher speeds, the next tollbooth guy clocked me (distance / time) and said - aap gatiseema se adhik chala rahen hain, kripiya dheera chalayen; and the pointed towards the police booth.
LoL ! the trick is if you ride fast make sure you take long breaks between toll booths 😂
Car or bike
What about Yezdi Adventure compared to GS310
Price of that top box?
Quality content and precise information
Excellent comparison! You being more with pillion also gives more realistic assessment of bikes' limitations and performance in various conditions. With pillion, a lot changes while riding. The needs of both the riders must be taken in to consideration while purchasing the bike. Rarely, on youtube, the presenters bother about anything regarding pillion. But pillion rider concerns and their mentioning with discussions is the real highlight of your presentation! Keep it up!!👍
Nice useful video! Thanks.
Very useful comparison video. 👌👌
Hi Prateek, in the 40k kms howmuch have u spent in total on the GS other than fuel and accessories. Am planning to buy one but confused if i should
I own a gs310 bs6 done 3000kms
The bike is a beautiful machine but the engine open ups completely after 3000kms mark it become more aggressive and more driving ♥️
@@paone1213 I agree. The bike is amazing. There are teething issues which I see across similar bikes. I just did 4k KMs in 2 weeks across plains and hills and believe me when I say, the bike's performance is top-notch. I rode at 45 degree incline terrain and the bike glides.
The rear suspension is too comfortable and thus makes you ride continuously for 200-300km at one stretch...
@@SearchingTravelTime yep true brother
Ktm adv 390 owner verdict after 5k km.
Whatever he said is 100% correct.
I wish the seat was much softer and seat height couls have been Little low.Otherwise perfect
Thanks for the video. I ride d250 with my wife. Now i know what i should be getting next. Cheers from Bangalore 🏍️🍻
Glad you liked the vlog..hope you subscribed & do check out other vlogs on the channel 🤘
Good points. Well done !
What are the usual service charges for GS on its 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th services?
Around 6-8k
I ride 350 classic reborn with my wife and it's very comfortable. 390 adventure is a awesome bike it's comes with great power.
for low end torque issue, just install a fuelx lite/pro, irons out all flatspots in the engine power curve ! Worth addition to the excellent allrounder bike !
Hi , wanted to buy bike which shall cater both City use and travelling . I tested almost every bike in this segment . I came across many you tube review videos . Unfortunately no one is talking about the ease of handling the bike , it’s weight balance , turning comfort etc . I personally think one Sh be able to Controll the bike with utmost ease and comfort . These days most of the bikes are so heavy In weight and that to weight balance is poor when it comes to handling bikes at high speed .
I have seen many videos of both KTM 390 & BMW GS and personally went to take test for 2-3 times . Unfortunately no one talking about both bike turning radius and it’s ease of handling at any situation .
After riding both of them , BMW clearly stands out super easy to handle as compared to KTM 390 .
Turning radius of gs is way better than any bike in the market . For me ,turning radius matters a lot as far as handling the bike in city commute . At high speed and well balanced weight , it is so much easy to handle and Controll the bike .
Slight speed issue really doesn’t matter unless you are really in to some racing and all .
Finally , we have decided to go with GS , by no means any bike is even close to its manuvering ability . Power/ pick up / torque really doesn’t matter for those who has driven 2 stroke engines .
So for touring and city commute -
first choice BMW GS
Second choice - KTM 390 or Suzuki V strom
For city use only -
First choice - BMW G310 R
Second choice - Suzuki V strom or KTM duke 250/390 ,
Totally agree with your seat height point... straight road par issue nahe ata...main issue tb ata hai jb app off-road hote ho....off road you will feel the pain of heavy bike and high seat height....
Nice video, what are your thoughts on putting the GS suspension on the adv
Has anybody done this yet? I was just thinking about the same or if the new ktm 390 enduro/rally suspension which is tunable can be fitted on this adventure 390?
Keep it up bro.ur work is awesome
Check uttarakhand series🤘
GS for riding dynamics
390 adv performance and accessibility
Please elaborate how can an stiffer suspension is better for hardcore offroad? won't it make ride more harsh & bounce the bike around a lot
Soft Suspension of GS makes the ride very comfortable on broken roads and trail roads...however if you want to jump the bike around or ride faster on offroads then ktm 390's stiffer suspension comes handy...
Amit, to add - you want confidence while going at a decent speed off road from the bike to not throw you off the bike, which is more probable if you’re on a softer suspension like the GS’. You want your posture planted on the bike.
@Amit krupal on higher jumps stiffer suspension won't bottom out that easily.
Bhai aap bilkul saare point acche se clear karte ho ,, sala confusion ka koi jhanjhat hi nahi
KTM 390 adventure is comfortable for 5’.6” height persons?
I am 5"6 I was tip-toeing But manageable. Probably in tricky situations you may face difficulty. But it all depends on your skill set. With Riding boots, because it restricts movement of the toe, it was bit more difficult.
Very nice comparison...
Nice review. Happy to own an adv 390.
One thing though, the 390 isn't made for hardcore offroading, it has pretty similar capabilities compared to the 310gs with the only difference being that you can go slightly faster on offroads compared to the gs because of stiffer suspension.
What do you mean by isn't made for hard-core offroading ? Its an adventure bike... you drive it in the city don't you ? I think driving over grass if enough offroading for you considering its not "HaRdcOre" 😂
@@bleeder1742 I guess it's that time of the month when you bleed out of your vagina, that's why you're so rude.
But anyways, let me make it clearer for you to understand considering that your vision and mind might be blurred by all that vaginal blood spewing all over.
In the video the guy says that compared to his g310 gs, the 390 is a hardcore offroader. So I was just correcting him on that.
And the 390 can do way more than grass if you can call it offroading.
@@bleeder1742 What dhe said is right ADV 390 is 70% Highway Tourer and 30% off roader so if you consider Adv 390 as a hardcore off road bike then God be with you.... Himalayan and Hero XPulse 200 V4 is a hardcore off road bikes a hardcore off road bike has a spoked wheel not allows that's one major difference, coz you don't want your wheels cracking while jumping a Ditch do you. So Kindly get some facts right about off road bikes and touring bikes, but at the same time I would say Adv can do off roads but not like Himalayas or Impulse can the best hardcore bike you can get your hands on is Impulse as per Indian standards but ADV 390 gives you more bang for the money you spend
its made for hardcore off road dude, more lile dakar style.. is ktm mad to give stiff suspension at rear? there is a reason
Thnx कन्फ्युजन दुर करणे के लिए ❤✌️
Suzuki DRZ400S/SM for the win!
I think gs is good for highway and offroading but if you want to ride on highway with good speed and if you want to do hardcore offroading than 390 adventure is good
Nice comparison, but there is one point which i want to clear, I believe that soft suspensions are better for off roading, but you mentioned that stiff suspensions are good for hardcore off roading. Please clear my doubt and I would be glad to get a correction if i am wrong in terms of suspension.
If you have to simply sit & ride comfortably, soft Suspension is good...but With soft Suspension setup you cannot jump the bike(you would have seen off-road trainers doing it with KTMs), as when the bike lands on the ground there is probability of huge jerk impact which might injure your back.
That's why a bit stiff suspension is preferred for hardcore offroads where riders jump the bikes around big rocks, stones.
@@MysticRiderPrateek but India me aise jumps kaha Marne vale ho 😂
@@nikhilsuryawanshi6301 India ghum zara. Aise dialogue nahi maarega fir.
The soft suspension is not so good when going faster over bumpy roads. The rebound speed of the softer suspension is slower, so the suspension doesn't recover fully (think extending back fully) before you hit the next bump. So, you hit the next bump with the suspension in a sub-optimal state, transferring more impact force to the frame and to you. It is not only about jumping. It is mostly about going fast over bumpy terrain. You can ride more aggressively or faster over uneven roads with the firmer suspension. With the soft suspension, you have to slow down so that suspension can recover properly. With KTM 390 and GS 310, GS 310 has the worse suspension - on-road and off-road. On the road, GS suspension suffers in twisties, the soft suspension leads to an unstable front end. It kinda bounces and wallows when doing fast turns on the twisties. You lose confidence in its ability to hold a line, if you get my explanation. KTM is definitely better for rider confidence. It depends a lot on your riding style though.
Doesn’t 390 Adventure have fully tunable suspension? Which means that you can adjust the rebound and compression to your weight (+ pillion and luggage). If you have a suspension specialist in India, they should be able to tune it so well that this can become anybody’s dream bike. Suspension is so underrated and misunderstood!
I think only but indian variant
What it mean KTM had best or worst suspension??
In India we do not have adjustable suspension as standard.
I am 5.6 was skeptical on getting the 390 adv with 855 seat height.... was scared in the beginning but KTM adventure academy helped.. Learning the skill.... Now I can ride anywhere.... Planning to get the Hero XPULSE rally edition with seat height of 885 and that would be fun... So all please do not doubt, height is just a number. You can ride IT
Where is this academy? Is it run ny KTM in every state of India
I respect and appreciate your efforts and opinions. But I wouldn't agree with some points of yours that too with 300km ride vs 40k + km.
1.Gs is way more comfortable
2.Softer suspension on highway and broken roads
3.Comfort that GS offer better than any under 5 lakhs.
4.Low end torque on GS and downshifts and stiffer climbs.
5.Easy overtakes on GS at speeds above 110-120 kmph.
6.Saddling position on 390 Adventure
My opinion
1.Both have different riding triangle and posture both being comfortable. Following points make alot of difference on comfort.
i)390 has more seating aids, heel guards for gripping the bike with your legs which is more important for an ADV to have.
ii)Footpegs are more wider and slanted with adjustablity on gear lever and brake lever.
iii)390 has more seat area which you have explained which means you have more room to play with depending on the terrain, tarmac , situation.
iv)Footrest position on pillion on 390 has more room and has a greater angle, even it has a heel guard to grip on.
v)Wind protection is better on 390 due handguards, windscreen.
2. Softer suspension bounces,dives, sensitive to road surfaces.
The stiffer suspension bounces and dives less. Isn't sensitive to road surfaces holds line and makes bike more stable. Which means a stiffer suspension is better overall.
3. Points 1 and 2 are answer to comfort.
4. Low end torque has relation to climbs but you gave the answer yourself while taking about steep climbs. Gs has good mid range torque and you can compare 310gs torque graph with 390 adventure which clearly shows 390 having much more low end torque than 310.
5. Overtakes are not that easy on GS at speeds above 100 110 kmph, they are easy at speeds around 80-90 kmph.
6. Agree with fact that 390 has better saddling posture but the posture you displayed is total wrong. Heel guard is first grabbing point then around tank and depends on tarmac how you hunch down.
Tune video Jyada he dil pe le liya
bhai itna bada comment kiya ,exam hota tho kese lihkta hoga tu 10 15 supplements tho fix leta hoga bas kar bhai rulayga kya
@@user-zh8rx1yh1v Tere bass ka nahi hai ye bhai mat read kr tu 😂
Thanks for ur honest opinion....so which bike do you suggest brother?
@@chayanroy8656 I have both bikes in my garage. Still I'll choose /suggest Adventure 390 any day. Just rent out or borrow Adventure from any of your friends and go hit KTM's Pro-XP trails and Academy, that makes you a better rider and know the bike way around. If you don't care about power and high speed touring, softer suspension then I'll suggest you go with GS.
@@adetyanalawade thanks brother..🫂
Instrument cluster ka kuch boldoh...sirf bmw ka he bol rahe ho..
Can you did a review of Honda cbx500. A comparison with 390 will also be appreciated 👍
Honda doesn't want that ..they don't give the bike for couple of days...and I review the bikes only after riding them at least for a few hundred kms on different trails
@@MysticRiderPrateek That's sad !! Would really appreciate review of person who drive it longer rather than few kms. Thanks for responding though 👍
Big brother you are looking 💪💪💪
cb200x gives me range of 450kms
I have 390 adv Low and torque wali prblm h adv me or bike me koi kmi ni h 🤪😬
bro makes a lotta sense. true what he says
Prateek, how do you carry fuel cans when you go to Ladakh, for instance?
Don't mind me answering.Take it if it's useful. Any rider riding to ladakh will have to fill at last petrol bunk on the way to ladakh, As there will be no bunk for about 300kms approx. Full tank and extra tank in Jerry cans or plastic container.Thank you.
@@pradeepvedhams334 Thanks, Pradeep. Just wanted to know if we can mount jerry cans like we can on Himalayan, for instance.
@@ashpal1484 yes can do that.
planning gs for long rides
My bike(ktm390adv) makes a lot of noise from the sprocket and swingarm, which is very annoying, did you notice any similar kind of sound from this bike you reviewed?
Nopes...there wasn't any sound from the ktm i rode...get sprocket checked...
@@MysticRiderPrateek i did, but the ktm service centre guys here in Shillong say it's just the same with every adventure series bikes, and they can't do anything to stop the sound.
I also observed same when I test ridden once.
Thank you for making this very informative video! I like your honesty and all the points that look very thoughtfully discussed.
Was very helpful to know! A friend owns a gs1200 in Scotland and he was asking me just now about the 390 adventure.
So i thought let me ask some gentlemen on youtube who I was sure have done their homework annnnd hands on experiments to reach a more realistic view of the bike.
You have not disappointed :) Thank you, Sir :)
Cheers!
O, I have a duke 390 2016 model, and I'm thinking of buying a set of the the new ktm 390 2022 adventure's rims and tires just so I can join u tourer guys on some of your crazy adventures :)
I wonder what your thoughts might be on simple mods I could do like the one i mentioned, to a duke 390, to go where your bikes do.
thank you for this
People are forgetting about the oil change 10000km
And comfort which is very important for touring
The KTM have to understand the Indian roads and market as well! He should rather introduce a new adventure pro model that would have everything. In India whichever manufacturing company sale most of the unit/year on the basis of "value for money".
Nowadays, people can afford 400/500 cc bikes so the company should update the bike not with cosmetics but with the real specifications like suspension, TCS, & a better windshield to protect the rider from wind blast..
Good job 👌
Good. 👍
Height only matters when you need to reverse the bike
very informative
The GS certainly scores more vs the 390 in biker’s comfort and overall experience…it’s evident in many such comparisons! A test drive of GS will put a smile on your face & that tells all…
Correct 🤘
Chal be lawde.......
390cc vs 310 cc
Comparison hi nhi h........ Ktm is better than GS
🔥🔥🔥
Bro i own an 2023 ktm adventure 390 i have ride my bike non stop 300+ Km and 6 hours I have reached Hyderabad from Bengaluru...it is very much comfortable on the bike... no back & body pains it depends on your Energy 💪....!!
I wishvto meet u and drive with u one day
Someday on some road🤘
Gs ka price b toe jyada hai utna price meh toe comfort milna he chaheye
But within 7000 kms of service . KTM makes you to go more times to the service centers and fuel tank is also plastic, I have ridden 30000 kms in 1 and half year and sold it. Suspension is super hard and it will hurt back . Sold KTM and brought Xpulse 200 4v and I'm very much satisfied with Xpulse even during touring too
True...I have done Bangalore to Lucknow over the weekend with luggage and wife on GS comfortably.... am sure with the suspension of KTM 390 it wouldn't have been possible...xpulse is nice... congratulations 🎉
Nobody sells Adventure 390 and buys Xpulse. What a joke! 😄
@@SantoshS1279 You can follow my Insta ID brother. Everyone have their own priorities, You can't handle a bike which needs to be taken to service center for every month and only one service center can do proper service in a big city like Hyderabad. It's not possible for a working Men like me. Your back will have serious issues if you ride 390 Adventure over long period of time. I sold it after riding for 30k kms in 1 nd half year
@@MysticRiderPrateek whats your advice on touring in xpulse 200 4v? Can we do long tours like all india tours?
Wah
GS ka service cost kaisa hai… avg per year? Considering regular maintenance
All bmw bikes has a service interval of 1 year or 10K km including G 310GS. So you have to go to the showroom/service centre only once a year
being a gs310 owner for 5 months, never felt lack of power till now. Plus its road presence is so much higher. People generally think it is much more expensive bike than its actual price.
Yup that's the perception GS has...power delivery improved in BS6...I own BS4 & i ride in mountains mostly...so sometimes i fell lack of power..
@@MysticRiderPrateek I agree on that.
anyway I guess bmw motorrad owes you a bit for their gs bike sales. I picked it after watching ur vlogs. and I think there are many like me.
@@utkarshsharma4877 gear shifting issues? Stalling issues? I love the look and the fact that only 1 service per year, but worried about these things, because engine is made by TVS
@@ronakbarman3580 engine is not made my tvs, its JV between bmw motorrads and tvs. in fact tvs markets its apache 310 saying that it's bmw powered engine
The engine is made by tvs but tuned by bmw... Tuning the engine is the toughest job... These kind of JV happen in automobile and motorcycle sectors... Saves money in R&D just like toyoto and maruti
Me next month me jane ka plan kar raha hu
Nice
Hardcore offroading is done with a dirt bike, this should do softroading.
Nice review btw u want more power and speed means Kawasaki Ninja 300 top speed 185+ bs6 cruising speed 140 and myself on yamaha R15 version 3 bs4 I have done 250 kms on kanyakumari to Mysore Highway in 3 hrs non stop 😎👌
And what about the spares and service cost of the Ninja?
@@francodsouza4637 spares are available service cost is in par with KTM
Kanyakumari to Mysore highway ? Where exactly in mysore highway? So average speed was 200 kmph + ? 🤔
@@NikhilKumarM nikhil I hope you have basic sense before commenting from Kanyakumari to Mysore is 630+ kms out of which 250 is super 4 lane national highway and per hour on any national highway if traffic is below 50 percent I will be covering 100+ kms in 1 hour 😎👍
@@ganeshbharadwajshooter1913 tell me distance and time. We can calculate speed. You could've lied better.
❤❤
At the end ktm is better than gs
KTM 390 king of touring & off road
Very expensive in Nepal.
G310GS is a TVS in a BMW wrapper. Poor quality parts at a premium cost.
100% right statement
I love GS, but its LCD cluster sucks, boring af. KTM 390 has a sexy looking cluster.
I agree on that part...
Practically ADV 390 way batter than BMW 310GS.
ha bro leh to manali 480 km hai have u really done umlingla leh to manali hi 430 hai what u talking bro stop giving false information
Me to 5.3pe chala rha hu
0:28 banglodu? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Roman Reigns 😂🙏🙏👍👍❤️
GS has better built than the ktm
Xplus is better.....
I bought the 390adv instead of GS
I felt the cost of maintenance was going to be high
Especially cause it’s an adv and you might drop it .
2. BMW has no electronics
3. Ktm is faster. So you spend less time on the highway
in a fall, indicators are very easy to break, bmw indicators are 5000/-, I think ktm is at 500, also saw in one video, clutch plate is 28000/- for bmw. These prices are fine if I am owning a gs1250 something, not a 310! Indians ko bass ch**ti** banate hai companies!
@@er404 Brake shoes Rs 5000/- R + Rs 4000/- F, chain set around Rs 14000/- and Tires Rs 11000/- (round figures)
Tere bike ki hi tarif Karale
Dhang se video dekh le fir comment kar le ..
Bangloduu😂😂
5.5 hight k liye to bohat problem he ktm