I think the idea behind him showing off his powers while driving secularism and especially shouting down speculation of himself being a god was to show off "I am the current pinnacle of humanity, I want to guide you and all of humanity to be like me"
Well, Perpetuals are born from time to time, even though they are exceedingly rare. So humanity basically has the same potential as the Old Ones. At least what concerns immortality.
@@thedragon133 true, they are, but none have been as powerful as the Emperor. Emps definitely wanted Old One like humans, similar to himself. Given enough time in peace, humanity would naturally evolve into such. But until the warp tumors, the terminators, the pointy eared bastards, the spiky pointy eared bastards, the fungus, and the roaches are gone, along with countless other alien threats, humans won't ever get the chance... Emps tried to unite humanity and wipe out all threats to it to give them a chance to evolve... But certain angsty teenagers decided to ruin that plan. However, I think Emps foresaw that possibility, and had a back up plan.
@@michellewilt4479 I'll quote a bit from one of the horus heresy books, The Outcast Dead: His opponent moved his Divinitarch into a blocking position, and said 'Because sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning.' Kai scanned the board, seeing that he had no more moves to make. 'Stalemate.' he said. The figure spread his hands in an empty gesture of apology. 'I know some people think me omnipotent, but there is a catch with being all powerful and all knowing.' 'Which is?' 'You can't be both at the same time.' said the figure with a wry smile. 'So what happens now?' 'I finish the game.' 'This one?' asked Kai, puzzeled. 'No,' said the figure. 'Our game is done, and I thank you for it.' 'Will I see you again?' His opponent laughed. 'Who knows, Kai? If our game has taught me anything, it is that all things are possible.' 'But you're going to die.' 'I know,' said the Emperor.
The Emperor being born as the gestalt reincarnation of early shamans was the origin given in the source book The Lost and the Damned. I've always considered The Emperor's opposition to religious beliefs as a means to prevent such things being corrupted by chaos. That's why he created such an aggressively atheist state. The definitions I've found of secular states do not match what the Emperor wanted, they would be neutral on matters of religion and would not persecute believers as the Emperor himself did.
the ego : he's the most powerfull psyker in human history, has united mankind, spoken to the dark gods of the warp, conquered the stars and the galaxy, and has allegedly been alive since the dark ages . i guess he can have an ego
Also we don’t even know where he came from and it’s hard to believe he was ever a truly born human and not some creation of Old World Science. With the power and advancement of Ancient Human tech it’s not hard to believe the Emperor was a test tube baby.
@@Tullaryx considering that humanity "might" have been an abandonned experiment from the old ones, maybe they created him at the dawn of mankind . speculation is ripe in warhammer as always
The Emperor always denied his godhood. There is a C’Tan shard on Mars though, it’s the one connected with machines The Void Dragon is in the Labyrinth of Mars The same place that birthed the Machine Cult that speaks of the Omnissiah giving them silver dreams and is the inspiration for ever greater technological might.
@@thetruelichking3321 during mars joining chaos during the horus heresy the new overseer was emotionally untrustworthy putting saving her friends lives before doing her duty when she came back it was gone i do need to reread that book
"Look, just because one chooses to wear golden armor, have god-like powers and wield a fiery sword, it does not mean that one identifies as a god, alright? Please do not force your preferences upon me." - A man emperor on a couch, talking to a Kitten.
34:02 Just because he wants to have shinny gold armor, have a fire sword, have glow around him and other things of that nature doesn't mean he wants to be looked at as a god. People need to be taught that considering people to be gods depending on how they look is dumb and wrong.
@@jacktobias6513 No, he just decided to paint a glamorous picture of an inspiring leader humanity needed but, like basically the entire Imperium, it's built on a lie.
@@MicahSps I wouldn't exactly call it a lie. It is propaganda, yes but it is him presenting an image to unite people around. A symbol. Kind of like Batman really.
There was that one person at the beginning of Master of mankind, the last "water stealer" who was arguing with one of the Custodes before she was going to be BLAM'd for her "crimes". She basically called the GEOM a Dark Age Superweapon, implying that he's just faking the whole human origin thing and was pretty much a bioweapon that so happened to slip its handlers during the Age of Strife and constructed the image of benevolent origins so that it could take power for itself. Of course, no loyal Imperial citizen would believe this tripe, no no Inquisitor Sir, I am a good, loyal, small minded citizen. Definitely no credence to this rumor at all! ADDENDUM: Henry Cavill is the Emperor of Mankind, and nobody can tell me otherwise
I personally would take the word of the gods of chaos over that of some random thief, and those guys are lying liars who lie. Did I mention that I would not trust the chaos gods on the Emperor's origins either?
I believe that the emperor of mankind is an old one that escaped the war by transferring himself into the mind of a man. The old one's have always had a predilection for genetically modifying races to suit their needs. This would also help explain the efforts made to reestablish the web way. This also explains why the emperor doesn't die of old age as the old ones were one of the races that had the knowledge of eternal life. I don't know, just a thought.
From the books I read in which the emperor appears (Horus Heresy books mostly) I think it was pretty much impossible for the emperor to be a "public" figure and not instill the awe he did in the humans around him, from what I understood he was basically hiding throughout history and only appeared to "correct" mankinds course to ensure a certain future would be achieved. His psychic power kinda let everyone around him know that he was not just a regular human, in the few books where you follow a person shortly before or a little bit into the golden throne they are getting phyiscally burned by the sheer psychic power the emperor is emitting at all times and that not even custodes, except for a few, can stand in his vicinity for any prolonged time. There is this theory that the emperor created the illusion of how he looked and how tall he was to inspire the people around him, but I think he did it to "distract" from his more godlike abilities. So he is a 10 foot tall superhuman in golden armor and commands trillions upon trillions of people. But thats just something that seems to be achievable with very advanced technology (I mean the primarchs are visually just a smaller versions of the emperor) - but emitting an aura that burns people around him and make them go insane seems like something only a god or a being of extreme power could ever do. So the emperors illusions were, imo just a distraction and he was constantly holding back his psychic powers to not instill any thoughts of godhood about him. About his origins I'm not sure, I always liked the idea that he was created by an old one to lead humanity against chaos.
The reason the shamans were "stronger" or had a easier time using their powers was that the warp (was not super warped yet). It was still possible for them to create the emperor since they had access to calmer warp (realm of souls) and they did what they did because demons were beginning to show up on earth to kill the shamans. So they did what they did out of a need but also for future safety of earth. since the demons would be a constant threat to life on earth.
hell yeah, more CVR reacts to leutin content, i always see leutins or archs way of explaining things being capable of conveying certain facts or concepts that are a lot easier to reply or retort to.
the thing with you analogy with the void dragon does not fit like what north Korea does as the story of the emperor defeating the c'tan was not created by the emperor or any of his followers but by a random mortal who made beautiful artworks from premonitions and visions and one of them was of a golden warrior fighting a dragon this is from the book the last church
the self aware planets you are looking for are the eldar maiden worlds they help protect the exodite eldar from slaanesh exodite eldar are like the eldar amish
It is not our place to Question the creation of our God Emporer citizen. We must take heart that he sacrificed his mortal form in order to ensure the continued survival and prosperity of our race and his great Empire! Avē Imperātor, moritūrī tē salūtant!!!!
Yeees! This video series (or at least the first 2 parts) are Luetin's THE BEST videos! They are done so well, it actually feels like a high quality audio book with visual aids and musical cues.
There are 2 other potential origins for the Emperor that I like. - He is a Man of Gold, an artificial humanoid created by humanity via genetic engineering and/or other methods during the Dark/Golden Age of Technology, prior to the war with the Men of Iron. - The Emperor is not actually a real person, he is instead a psychic projection of Malcador, who used a more awe inspiring facade in order to unite Terra and found the Imperium. (Though with the way things work in 40k, he may have *become* a real person/god due to the massive and ongoing faith and worship in the Emperor throughout the Imperium). Luetin did skip over another reason for the Shamans to have chosen to amalgamate themselves into one being. They were able to reincarnate after dying, but the Warp started becoming more dangerous over time, you can't reincarnate if something terrible eats your soul while you're dead. By joining forces into one 'oversoul' they became powerful enough to make it difficult to kill them in the first place, and to be able to effectively fight back and successfully reincarnate if they did die. As for them not being able to become so powerful, I think it's partly a matter of scale, it was supposed to be something on the order of hundreds or thousands of shamans who did this IIRC, not just a few. There's also the theory that doing this set back Humanity's psychic development substantially (and why Psykers didn't start to rise in numbers and power significantly until tens of thousands of years later near the end of the Dark Age of Technology) because most of the psykers that were in the gene pool became the Emperor (and the other Perpetuals depending on who you ask). This also explains away the 'age of myths' in ancient history and the world becoming more grounded in 'reality'/physics afterward, because you didn't have many psychic wizards running around doing crazy things, just the Emperor and a handful of others who were more content to fade into the background at that time.
I truly believe the Emperor didn't want to be seen as a god. His powers were god-like yes, but he was first and foremost a human, the pinnacle of humanity. The fact that a human, not a god, could reach such heights should be empowering for humanity as a whole right? "I am the Emperor of Mankind, leader of humanity by merit and might, not by divine intervention of some higher unknowable being" this is not a direct quote but you get what I mean. It's also much more grimdark and tragic that almost immediately after the Emperor was put on the Golden Throne humanity started praying to him and the Adeptus Ministorum (aka the Church of the Imperium) started ruling in the Emperor's place. After the Emperor spent thousands of years uniting mankind and actively removing any trace of religion from Earth, all it took was for him to be unable to speak and a bunch of zealots took the reins of the Imperium
18:23 Except that he is. Different from us, that is. He's a top tier psyker. But not only that, he also is extremely hard to kill and virtually immortal. He is a rare combination of a Perpetual ("immortal human" mutation) and a powerful psyker. IF he ever had a "normal childhood" it would have been extraordinarily short. Mind reading and shapeshifting (as far as illusions go) are not that difficult by psyker standards so we can assume he mastered them in his childhood to teenage years... after that... well, most Perpetuals seem to have an instinct to guide humanity to the next step of its evolution. It seems he followed that instinct and still does on his golden throne. Most likely he already had visions of the future and how he would shape it, maybe sent by his future self. I wouldn't put it past him.
Emps during his early days wasn't nowhere near as powerfull as he is in 30k. One of his buddies through the ages said that he started off as mid ranged spyker by later imperial terms, meaning he could be basic stuff like maybe mental manipulations or if he tried hard enough offense stuff like force powers but nothing more than that. Only much later he acquired his then powers through unknown means, but he was overall still only human, like his mental capacity wasn't above and beyond what normal humans could achieve, he did infact needed quite many people to accomplish his tasks like an army of scientist who worked on his super soldier projects etc. He also personality wise still human ish, but implications where set that what ever empowered him also made him gradually lose his emotional connection to humanity. For example when the primarchs got kidnapped he was hurt by this as he regarded them truly as his sons at that point, a statement which baffled both his main advisors, malcador and the custodes commander valdor, quite a bit with valdor flat out stating "that he then still bound by his human weaknesses " In 40k he is become basically a god / the collective gestalt intelligence of all mankind. During his meeting with guilliman this was revealed and how the emperor is desperately fighting against his ascension into godhood as this would be a end point for his dream of a better humanity.
Theory: The Last Old Ones tried to make more races and seeded power into the Line of Humans(Psykers), the Emperor was the first to unlock more power then the rest and took power and authority onto himself. For he is only human, the Emperor is not Divine.
the void dragon thing did happen he is locked up inside mars. he is physically there. How? Hell if I know I'm only a part of the cult of the dragon. praise the Omnissiah. But yeah he is on mars and is a c'tan. so he didn't lie about that but he could be an experiment being one person said he was a dark age superweapon. whatever IT is he is not the omnissiah.
I always think that a major Flaw of Big e is his immortality. Immortals tend to have certain perspectives fixed. Us mortals are forced to reevaluate our waays of thinking because our time in life is finite. WE are forced by time and circumsatnces to rethink ourselves and wonder ”Hey, maybe I should consider that I am not always right.” Now consider the Emperor, with his virtually infinite time and powers, neither time nor circumstances can ever force him to admit hs own mistakes or modify his personal philosophy. He can always think ”I can live this down, just ignore my mistakes for a few decades or centuries”. His ”perfect” mind is static, it is an endless labyrinth of unfathomable knowledge, but the architecture is rigid and unmoving.
I heard 2 theory's on how the emperor came into being, but you can think of the emperor as a fedora wearing reddit moderator that is trying to prevent any religion. Theory 1: seven shamans made a suicide pact back long ago and they all went through with it, forming the emperor. Theory 2: he's possibly an old one that managed to survive the purging caused by the necrons.
where does the claim that it was 7 shamans come from as i remember it, it was all shaman psychers of that time that where perpetuals and there where thousands of them but over time as chaos woke up a bit they started noticing some of the people they expected to return over and over again didnt get reborn so they went looking and found out about demons and the only way to prevent it from happening was a suicide ritual merging their souls into one even with the losses until they figured it out it where thousands of psychers and every novel where there is anything written about what goes on in his head there are a lot more then 7 people arguing and panicking, tho thats probably because of the constant feeding him psycher thing if they really went with the number of nurgle they should have seen it coming ending up as a neverdying pile of rotting corpse
I think it's more the old ones knew they were going to die and their pet civilizations were going to be corrupted so they made the emperor along side the shamans each would bring experiences important to his creation
"Reactionary" is not a description of "far-right" politics, it is the definition communists have always used to malign people who are/were loyal to the old government(s) that the communists overthrew. It has been used in this way from the Bolsheviks, Maosts, Cubans, Venezuela, Spain, everywhere it got any hold of governmental power.
I think it's more a consequence of the times that far-right politics is seen as inherently reactionary. A better description might be that they are more hierarchal and hold authority in high regard, which does harken back to earlier times more often than not.
Reactionary was originally used during the French Revolution as a way too dismiss those who were opposed to the revolution and after that other violent left wing groups would use it too against those who didn't agree with them reactionary honestly has become a very antiquated term that's not often used against right wing groups anymore but more so left wing groups trying to distance themselves from other left wing groups that are bad for optics.
Technically the Shaman origin is the only one that was actually written into a source book for 40k. All the others are either fan theories or only inferred by characters within stories - effectively NPC theories. Whether you like the shaman concept or not, it's the closest to an official origin of the emperor GW has ever produced
It's never been stated anywhere as far as I know but I've always taken his God-like choice of aesthetic to be another form of rejecting religious ideals. It's more like "look upon me. The imagery and magics of your gods were created by me, a man. A human. So too, can your great grand children achieve what I am. If you follow me. We don't need faith in gods, because WE are the gods. And I am the example of that yadda yadda..." You know, that type of shit.
I always have believed the Emperor is the laughing god Cegorach. The one true Eldar and Human daedric Prince. He needed a new greater number of followers, hence he came into the world of man with a portion of power as the Emperor and strove to assure the Aeldari fall did not repeat a second time with humanity. The many shaman deceived into opening a warp or part of a web way to allow Cegorach to pass through and be born. He is like the most pre-meditative patient warp god of them all, he plays the long game. Plus most mysterious, hate to see him ruined.
Taking the Void Dragon vs the Emperor as a lie feels like a disagreement for the sake of disagreeing (MY BOY DANTEEEEEEE). Most of us agree that the Emperor *did* encounter the Necron C'tan in pre-modern Earth and *did* fight it off... We just don't know how it got to Mars as a result of it.
maybe he used his warp powers to do so, wounding it to such a state that by the time it recovered by slumber that he l built a labyrinth around it. the later Martian colonists/ mechanicum would later construct around said labyrinth?
@@ryanlorenzo5003 unlikely as that would have been recorded in human history for some 25 millennia and be known by all tech priests in the unification period. the ctan by that would be common knowledge amongst the Martian people/ barbarian and mechanicum alike. it seems more plausible that it was damaged so heavily that it entered hibernation during ancient times to recover, all the while the emperor built its labyrinth prison on mars to seal it away from any that would disturb its sleep. this would both isolate the ctan while simultaneously protect humanity from its influence
Minor quibble, you mixed up the Meiji restoration with the Tokugawa Shogunate. Tokugawa was the regressive regime, and the Meiji restoration was the opposite, extremely progressive as Japan rapidly industrialized. The two actaully both fit the dichotomy you describe really well though.
23:00 pretty much, Luetin's videos are GREAT but often they suffer that mayor flaw, he doesn't _get_ the warp, he often tries to analyze of the warp using logic and common sense but the warp doesn't work that way, the Warp is a realm where metaphors are real and logic is a mere guideline that is often ignored. 25:50 To be fair the Eldar were fine for millions of years and the Orks are a devolution of the Krorks who were a biological weapon to fight in the War in Heaven, the MOST terrible conflict that the galaxy has ever seen.
If I were an Old One and saw this Clusterfuck of a Galaxy, after incalculable aeons spent painstakingly designing multiple species and ecosystems and whatnot, I could definitely see myself be like: Fuck it. burn it all down. For fucks sake even the Krork Project got messed up. This Galaxy does not want to stop being sick.
So, my theory based on your comment about leaders and their origin methos. He was born no earlier than a bit before the rebellion of the men of iron. He was born a powerful psyker and perpetual. He spent most of his time up to the unification war working on genetics, maybe he even was a techno Barbarian. Around the start of the unification wars he meets Malcador, or possibly he meets him during. Either way, the crux is that he’s much younger than he’s given credit for, and it’s Malcador that gives him the idea to create this mythos. They come up with this massive history that gives him a right to rule, and use that going forward. With all of history essentially wiped out, no one would be able to challenge it. If he actually was just a techno Barbarian, that could fit with your “no female space marines” theory as well, as well as his warrior king understanding. From their he gets his extra super psychic powers tricking/working for the chaos gods as I’ve heard thrown around.
Yes and no, something really is deeply buried in the Noctis Labyrinth and is bad news. Nobody who goes there returns and on top of that one of the few direct attacks of Necrons towards humans was a single ship landing in Mars for no reason whatsoever which took off as soon and it landed.
the eldar lost the war in heaven they never defeated the necrons and they definitely never defeated the cthan the necrons defeated the cthan and then looking on at what the war had done to the galaxy they wanted to rule and decided to let time repair and regrow it no use ruling over rubble, they where robots its not like they could repopulate the remains the eldar barely survived the enslaver plague and the orks where left losing strength without a war to guide them
@@hippiecheapskate nope, i played 3e when necrons where only warriors monoliths and a lord even when necrons where mindless machines hunting souls to fuel their machines with harvester ships the necrons won the war in heaven
In lore if he and the custodes could were bland as fuck power armor without the aquila or the gold and capes/cloaks they would but they have to were these glamorous armor/accessories for moral of the imperium
I want to tell you two things. One about your misconception about the Psyker Mutation of your previous video of the death korps of krieg. It's a mutation of the soul not the flesh. So to my knowledge it's not something you could see in someone's genes. The 2nd is about this video with the dragon of Mars. In the Horus Heresy novels we actually get to see the dream of the dragon and he dreams about his fight with the Emperor. You see how he lost the fight and was dragged back to his prison. It's revealed the C'tan had somehow broken out his Terrastact Vault. Unless the Dragon glorifies his own defeat, it is actually one of the things I believe are not glorified and it simple happened. In Medieval times the emperor fought the dragon and somehow dragged it back to its prison in Mars.
the last isolation period of japan started with the edo period when the tokugawa shogunate banned all foreigners entry into the country (Dutch where allowed on the island of Dojima in Nagasaki), and banned christianity. The meiji restoration was the overthrowal of the Shogunate by the Emperor (really his regents and advisors, emperor meiji was a kid back then) and was largly a modernization of the country, opening the country up and forming more western style political institutions including a standing professional army (something that the samurai class obviously didn't like all that much)
11:54 It was first Edo perios Second it was move to starve out opposition which recieved quite lot of money through foreign trade Third it did not ban use of firearms, it just made sure that nobility had monopoly on firearms, knightly classes usually dont like idea of peasant being able to take one of them down with 1 day of training By the time Meiji happened they were mass producing gunpowder weaponry for centuries
The only thing about the entire idea of the Emperor overstating his achievements etc with the Void Dragon, is that one, Big E absolutely DOES NOT want to be viewed as a god, which is probably why he keeps any information about his past so shrouded (he probably did a lot of crazy things in the past), and two, that event is beyond classified. Nobody is meant to know it ever happened. The fact that the Void Dragon is even on Mars is even a secret to the Fabricator General himself, the Emperor having forbidden anyone from opening the Noctis Labyrinth where the shard was 'entombed'. Given this insane level of secrecy regarding the event, we can be absolutely certain that no matter what actually happened, the Emperor did not intend to use it to shape others' perceptions of him, he never wanted them to know about it. Which is pretty typical of the Emperor, another reason I think that he genuinely does not want to be viewed as a god (and is just very naïve in some regards) - He is always trying to limit knowledge of his exploits. If you *wanted* to be seen as a god, the easiest way to do so is to make sure everyone knows about your greatest moments and your superhuman nature. The Emperor, by contrast, deliberately hid those things. Sure, he shrouded it in enough mystery that it led many to come up with their own fantasies of his divinity, but I don't think that he meant to do that. I think that it was one of his failings. However, if you consider the political and ideological landscape during the Great Crusade, you will also realize that the Emperor was actually doing a fairly good job of convincing people that he's just a really great man, despite all the evidence painting him as something greater. It took hundreds of years before anyone thought, "You know, that guy sure is godlike," and that arguably only happened because of the influence of Chaos. Left alone, humanity may have actually accepted the Emperor's view that he was simply the ultimate potential of mankind. At least, they may have done so for much longer.
My favorite theory is humans are the Exodite equivilant of the Necrontyr or some expeiment the Silent King did in his free time. Way too many parallels with the Necrotyr, the whole thing with the CTan shard on Mars, the Phariah gene, Nercons turning Humans into Necrons, Necrons also not automatically genociding humans on every tombworld, Egypt, Big E and Szarekh more or less being the same dude except warp instead of CTan, Trazyn helping on Cadia...
Your comment about the Old Ones wiping the slate clean actually ties directly into a theory of mine that the Tyranids are actually bioweapons created by the Old Ones (maybe surviving ones) for this exact purpose. In recent lore updates that's almost certainly not the case, but it would make sense. The Old Ones creating a nigh unstoppable race of perfect murder organisms that equate to essentially a giant biological DELETE button.
spoiler . . . . . . . . . . in godblight, he speaks through guilliman and scares sooooo much mortarion, in short, he is waking up, and probably if he is not already, becoming a god, that tipe of god that exists thanks to beings who believe in him, in my opinion
The government systems of the planets does change, the Empire doesn't care about the planetary government, be it theocratic, monarchist, democratic etc. along as they pay taxes in resources and soldiers. The Emperor has multiple personalities that were merged into one, after being mortally wounded that unified personality also was fractured and now he basically has multiple personality disorder. The Emperor would have the childhood experience not only of his own childhood but also of the hundreds of Shamans that combined to create him.
The Emperor is but a man, and that's what makes his tragedy so great. He's not just fractured his soul and mind he's taken a role upon himself which no man was made for yet still he tries for he loves us all. 40kness aside the core principles of the emperor are ag reat framework for an "atheist/humanist" religious doctrine in real life. Unity, diversity, science and brotherhood. The emperor protects but the emperor is just a man thus we have the potential to aspire to his example. The emperor protects, we must protect.
The biggest Irony of the Imperial Cult is that the Lectitio Divinitatus, the core book on the Emperor's divinity, were written by Lorgar Aurelian - Primarch of the Word Bearers - Who would be among those that turn traitor, and start worshipping Chaos Undivided. They would be the very first Legion to convert the Chaos worship which leads on the Erebus of the Word Bearers corrupting Horus Lupercal and thus igniting the Horus Heresy.
i think the emperor being the collective souls reincarnated from the early psykers makes the most sense, why would the emperor need the souls of 1000 psykers per day to survive if this were not true. it's like he's building a more powerful ubersoul in the same manner that he was originally created, hopefully in preparation to fully reincarnate himself more powerful than he has ever been before.
How did he come to be? I believe that natural psychers combined, some of different times, and combine there powers to become something almost God like.
In regards to what you said about him deliberately fostering a godlike appearance, but denying divinity: I think his purpose in doing this was to say "I am no god, I am a man, and as such, the potential within all men exists to become like me", he wanted to inspire people to believe that they weren't reliant on a god to become powerful, and this aligns with his eventual goal of turning humanity into a psychic race without any religious beliefs, he WAS going to turn humanity into beings like himself, but that end goal was unfortunately derailed (thanks Magnus....)
You know a lot of the lore on behind the emperor a lot of it does sound a lot like propaganda like what if this image of perfection and an inability to fail is actually a lie and the Emporer is just as flawed as anyone else and all the lore is really propaganda of the Imperium. And considering how he looks it's even possible he might not look like that. Would be amusing if he looks like the Chaos God of Atheism warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Necoho The behavior of the Emperor and him are eerily similar. Would be amusing if the Emporer looks nothing like his depictions of a massive man with golden armor but a small hunched over man with a ironic smile on his face.
A great example would be Man vs machines And by that i mean the conflict between mankind and machinery in the workplace where for example a car factory might have hired thousands of workers to manufacturing many cars but now there’s only a few dozen people in the factory doing odd jobs ie repairs, maintenance, site overseers, specialists and so on since most of it are done by machines and so eventually it stems to the question of what makes humans valuable? And how does that effect both society and the economy since more humans will be out of jobs meaning less jobs and less taxable income for the economy as well as people sitting home doing nothing much, and so when robots eventually takes over the majority of human jobs ie farming, shop, street cleaning or even security and so on, how will that effect how we interact with each other or how it effects society as a whole since due to the ease of communication, people call each other rather than talk to each other despite sitting right in front of them, if not we’d either plug in and listen to some music or play a game.
10:05 most of Europe were under monarchies during/before WW1. Most of them were however constitutional monarchies, where the monarchs were not all that powerful. Meiji Restoration was about overthrowing the Shogun and restoring the power of the Emperor after which a British style constitutional monarchy was established. Meiji Era was an era of modernization for Japan. Japan closing itself off happened much earlier, during the reign of the Tokugawa Shogunate. It is called Sakoku and lasted from 1630s to 1853. 30:05 let me stop you right there buddy. The Emperor does not describe himself as divine. Pretty much the exact opposite really.
Hey Paul if you want to take a break from the warhammer content. There is a series called "Hellsing Ultimate Abridged" by team four star. It would be fun to see you react to that
One thing I find funny is that Paul talked once about applying modern concepts and morals to the 40k verse as pointless, yet he still makes the theory that the emperor internalized the concept of women's role in society being mother's. Hmm
TTS had been put down by GW like a lot of other fan based sites (Sodaz) and videos. It´s over....Money talks. OK, I followed 40k now for over 30 years. I have seen it growing from a small tabeltop group to a big business company. In Germany even today it is a small, nearly unknown section of the SF and Fantasy world. And now I will see the begin of 40k´s fall. They are on a crusade against their own fans and the people which worked so hard to bring new fans to this fascinating and growing universe. Interesting to see that on all official GW sites the comment functions are down. They knew, why. It was nice, it was big, it was new and now it is over. Time to go....
It finally occurred to me, somehow he need to get Paul to react to these lore video's with Wolf Lord Rho. That way when he says Lore Experts, Rho is ready and able to jump in. Also, I think it would fun to pair this heretical thinking combat vet with the reverent reviewer or lore to see how things churn up.
Might I suggest the Dominion of Choas by luetin? also a very underreacted channel is Occulus Imperia, he does very IN UNIVERSE lore vids as an imperial historian. this one is about the horrific Psi-Titans: th-cam.com/video/mQu-g8K7qtc/w-d-xo.html
Bothered by how much he radiates Godhood and yet doesn't want to be considered a god? Man, you should watch If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device. They make quips about that constantly, and the Emperor absolutely flips his sh*t when he finds out about the Ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition.
Conservatives are not opposed to change, rather they act to ensure that the change made is slow, considered and principaled. It is wrong to ascribe left of center as liberals. Liberty is always centrist though in some cases its the center right that are the liberals if the country has a long tradition of liberty. Progressive is the more accurate opposite on conservative as each highlights their focus. Far left is the opposite of far right.
I think the idea behind him showing off his powers while driving secularism and especially shouting down speculation of himself being a god was to show off "I am the current pinnacle of humanity, I want to guide you and all of humanity to be like me"
Well, Perpetuals are born from time to time, even though they are exceedingly rare. So humanity basically has the same potential as the Old Ones. At least what concerns immortality.
@@thedragon133 true, they are, but none have been as powerful as the Emperor. Emps definitely wanted Old One like humans, similar to himself. Given enough time in peace, humanity would naturally evolve into such. But until the warp tumors, the terminators, the pointy eared bastards, the spiky pointy eared bastards, the fungus, and the roaches are gone, along with countless other alien threats, humans won't ever get the chance... Emps tried to unite humanity and wipe out all threats to it to give them a chance to evolve... But certain angsty teenagers decided to ruin that plan. However, I think Emps foresaw that possibility, and had a back up plan.
@@michellewilt4479 I'll quote a bit from one of the horus heresy books, The Outcast Dead:
His opponent moved his Divinitarch into a blocking position, and said 'Because sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning.'
Kai scanned the board, seeing that he had no more moves to make. 'Stalemate.' he said.
The figure spread his hands in an empty gesture of apology. 'I know some people think me omnipotent, but there is a catch with being all powerful and all knowing.'
'Which is?'
'You can't be both at the same time.' said the figure with a wry smile.
'So what happens now?'
'I finish the game.'
'This one?' asked Kai, puzzeled.
'No,' said the figure. 'Our game is done, and I thank you for it.'
'Will I see you again?'
His opponent laughed. 'Who knows, Kai? If our game has taught me anything, it is that all things are possible.'
'But you're going to die.'
'I know,' said the Emperor.
but as arch would say "hey details!"
The Emperor being born as the gestalt reincarnation of early shamans was the origin given in the source book The Lost and the Damned. I've always considered The Emperor's opposition to religious beliefs as a means to prevent such things being corrupted by chaos. That's why he created such an aggressively atheist state. The definitions I've found of secular states do not match what the Emperor wanted, they would be neutral on matters of religion and would not persecute believers as the Emperor himself did.
“How much is man and how much is godlike” Yes.
I've always loved that intro though, that's the best part of the video.
dpends on convenience hahha
the ego : he's the most powerfull psyker in human history, has united mankind, spoken to the dark gods of the warp, conquered the stars and the galaxy, and has allegedly been alive since the dark ages . i guess he can have an ego
Also we don’t even know where he came from and it’s hard to believe he was ever a truly born human and not some creation of Old World Science. With the power and advancement of Ancient Human tech it’s not hard to believe the Emperor was a test tube baby.
Oh he goes farther back than the Dark ages...I would say he's as old as the Stone Age, at least not later than early Bronze Age.
@@Tullaryx considering that humanity "might" have been an abandonned experiment from the old ones, maybe they created him at the dawn of mankind . speculation is ripe in warhammer as always
"Ego" Term could be used for mortal things but emperor was more.
The Emperor was born to a people that predates the Sumerians.
So many thousands of years before the dark ages.
The Emperor always denied his godhood.
There is a C’Tan shard on Mars though, it’s the one connected with machines
The Void Dragon is in the Labyrinth of Mars
The same place that birthed the Machine Cult that speaks of the Omnissiah giving them silver dreams and is the inspiration for ever greater technological might.
was in the labyrinth of mars
its still worshipped there and holds a presence to receive that worship
but the shard itself has left
@@ashardalondragnipurake how did that happen. I thought it was still in their
@@thetruelichking3321 during mars joining chaos during the horus heresy
the new overseer was emotionally untrustworthy
putting saving her friends lives before doing her duty
when she came back it was gone
i do need to reread that book
"Look, just because one chooses to wear golden armor, have god-like powers and wield a fiery sword, it does not mean that one identifies as a god, alright? Please do not force your preferences upon me." - A man emperor on a couch, talking to a Kitten.
34:02 Just because he wants to have shinny gold armor, have a fire sword, have glow around him and other things of that nature doesn't mean he wants to be looked at as a god. People need to be taught that considering people to be gods depending on how they look is dumb and wrong.
- The Emperor of Mankind
Sarcasm?
@@kapitan19969838 No, people can have a very fabulous appearance and not want people worshipping them.
@@carlospomares3225 However, an entity can be a god even if it denies its own divinity
@@kapitan19969838 That is also true. Although whether or not an entity classifies as a deity is independent of its appearance.
The best part about him is that Golden armored guy is just a psychic projection. Nulls looked at him and he’s just a man. Short and schlubby
Yeah but that is super fucking boring.
@@jacktobias6513 No, he just decided to paint a glamorous picture of an inspiring leader humanity needed but, like basically the entire Imperium, it's built on a lie.
@@MicahSps Again, BORING.
@@jacktobias6513 Whatever you say.
@@MicahSps I wouldn't exactly call it a lie. It is propaganda, yes but it is him presenting an image to unite people around. A symbol.
Kind of like Batman really.
There was that one person at the beginning of Master of mankind, the last "water stealer" who was arguing with one of the Custodes before she was going to be BLAM'd for her "crimes". She basically called the GEOM a Dark Age Superweapon, implying that he's just faking the whole human origin thing and was pretty much a bioweapon that so happened to slip its handlers during the Age of Strife and constructed the image of benevolent origins so that it could take power for itself. Of course, no loyal Imperial citizen would believe this tripe, no no Inquisitor Sir, I am a good, loyal, small minded citizen. Definitely no credence to this rumor at all!
ADDENDUM: Henry Cavill is the Emperor of Mankind, and nobody can tell me otherwise
I personally would take the word of the gods of chaos over that of some random thief, and those guys are lying liars who lie.
Did I mention that I would not trust the chaos gods on the Emperor's origins either?
you claim innocence, but we both know that is not a defense. You have talked of a heretical story so you have knowledge of heresy. *blam*
Where do the other perpetuals fit in that story?
I believe that the emperor of mankind is an old one that escaped the war by transferring himself into the mind of a man. The old one's have always had a predilection for genetically modifying races to suit their needs. This would also help explain the efforts made to reestablish the web way. This also explains why the emperor doesn't die of old age as the old ones were one of the races that had the knowledge of eternal life. I don't know, just a thought.
From the books I read in which the emperor appears (Horus Heresy books mostly) I think it was pretty much impossible for the emperor to be a "public" figure and not instill the awe he did in the humans around him, from what I understood he was basically hiding throughout history and only appeared to "correct" mankinds course to ensure a certain future would be achieved.
His psychic power kinda let everyone around him know that he was not just a regular human, in the few books where you follow a person shortly before or a little bit into the golden throne they are getting phyiscally burned by the sheer psychic power the emperor is emitting at all times and that not even custodes, except for a few, can stand in his vicinity for any prolonged time. There is this theory that the emperor created the illusion of how he looked and how tall he was to inspire the people around him, but I think he did it to "distract" from his more godlike abilities.
So he is a 10 foot tall superhuman in golden armor and commands trillions upon trillions of people. But thats just something that seems to be achievable with very advanced technology (I mean the primarchs are visually just a smaller versions of the emperor) - but emitting an aura that burns people around him and make them go insane seems like something only a god or a being of extreme power could ever do. So the emperors illusions were, imo just a distraction and he was constantly holding back his psychic powers to not instill any thoughts of godhood about him.
About his origins I'm not sure, I always liked the idea that he was created by an old one to lead humanity against chaos.
The reason the shamans were "stronger" or had a easier time using their powers was that the warp (was not super warped yet).
It was still possible for them to create the emperor since they had access to calmer warp (realm of souls) and they did what they did because demons were beginning to show up on earth to kill the shamans.
So they did what they did out of a need but also for future safety of earth. since the demons would be a constant threat to life on earth.
hell yeah, more CVR reacts to leutin content, i always see leutins or archs way of explaining things being capable of conveying certain facts or concepts that are a lot easier to reply or retort to.
the thing with you analogy with the void dragon does not fit like what north Korea does as the story of the emperor defeating the c'tan was not created by the emperor or any of his followers but by a random mortal who made beautiful artworks from premonitions and visions and one of them was of a golden warrior fighting a dragon this is from the book the last church
I think that the theory about the shamans it pretty solid. And I think that the aspects of these shamans were then presented by 21 primarchs.
the self aware planets you are looking for are the eldar maiden worlds
they help protect the exodite eldar from slaanesh
exodite eldar are like the eldar amish
It is not our place to Question the creation of our God Emporer citizen. We must take heart that he sacrificed his mortal form in order to ensure the continued survival and prosperity of our race and his great Empire! Avē Imperātor, moritūrī tē salūtant!!!!
Latin.
@@jonarc2403 let's gooooooo, Ave Imperatore hominis
Yeees! This video series (or at least the first 2 parts) are Luetin's THE BEST videos! They are done so well, it actually feels like a high quality audio book with visual aids and musical cues.
ALL HAIL THE MAN-EMPEROR OF MANKIND!
-Decius XXIII
BANANA
Yey
There are 2 other potential origins for the Emperor that I like.
- He is a Man of Gold, an artificial humanoid created by humanity via genetic engineering and/or other methods during the Dark/Golden Age of Technology, prior to the war with the Men of Iron.
- The Emperor is not actually a real person, he is instead a psychic projection of Malcador, who used a more awe inspiring facade in order to unite Terra and found the Imperium. (Though with the way things work in 40k, he may have *become* a real person/god due to the massive and ongoing faith and worship in the Emperor throughout the Imperium).
Luetin did skip over another reason for the Shamans to have chosen to amalgamate themselves into one being. They were able to reincarnate after dying, but the Warp started becoming more dangerous over time, you can't reincarnate if something terrible eats your soul while you're dead.
By joining forces into one 'oversoul' they became powerful enough to make it difficult to kill them in the first place, and to be able to effectively fight back and successfully reincarnate if they did die.
As for them not being able to become so powerful, I think it's partly a matter of scale, it was supposed to be something on the order of hundreds or thousands of shamans who did this IIRC, not just a few.
There's also the theory that doing this set back Humanity's psychic development substantially (and why Psykers didn't start to rise in numbers and power significantly until tens of thousands of years later near the end of the Dark Age of Technology) because most of the psykers that were in the gene pool became the Emperor (and the other Perpetuals depending on who you ask). This also explains away the 'age of myths' in ancient history and the world becoming more grounded in 'reality'/physics afterward, because you didn't have many psychic wizards running around doing crazy things, just the Emperor and a handful of others who were more content to fade into the background at that time.
The emperor doesn't dress like a god, gods dress like the emperor.
I truly believe the Emperor didn't want to be seen as a god. His powers were god-like yes, but he was first and foremost a human, the pinnacle of humanity. The fact that a human, not a god, could reach such heights should be empowering for humanity as a whole right?
"I am the Emperor of Mankind, leader of humanity by merit and might, not by divine intervention of some higher unknowable being" this is not a direct quote but you get what I mean.
It's also much more grimdark and tragic that almost immediately after the Emperor was put on the Golden Throne humanity started praying to him and the Adeptus Ministorum (aka the Church of the Imperium) started ruling in the Emperor's place. After the Emperor spent thousands of years uniting mankind and actively removing any trace of religion from Earth, all it took was for him to be unable to speak and a bunch of zealots took the reins of the Imperium
18:23 Except that he is. Different from us, that is. He's a top tier psyker. But not only that, he also is extremely hard to kill and virtually immortal. He is a rare combination of a Perpetual ("immortal human" mutation) and a powerful psyker. IF he ever had a "normal childhood" it would have been extraordinarily short. Mind reading and shapeshifting (as far as illusions go) are not that difficult by psyker standards so we can assume he mastered them in his childhood to teenage years... after that... well, most Perpetuals seem to have an instinct to guide humanity to the next step of its evolution. It seems he followed that instinct and still does on his golden throne.
Most likely he already had visions of the future and how he would shape it, maybe sent by his future self. I wouldn't put it past him.
Emps during his early days wasn't nowhere near as powerfull as he is in 30k.
One of his buddies through the ages said that he started off as mid ranged spyker by later imperial terms, meaning he could be basic stuff like maybe mental manipulations or if he tried hard enough offense stuff like force powers but nothing more than that.
Only much later he acquired his then powers through unknown means, but he was overall still only human, like his mental capacity wasn't above and beyond what normal humans could achieve, he did infact needed quite many people to accomplish his tasks like an army of scientist who worked on his super soldier projects etc.
He also personality wise still human ish, but implications where set that what ever empowered him also made him gradually lose his emotional connection to humanity. For example when the primarchs got kidnapped he was hurt by this as he regarded them truly as his sons at that point, a statement which baffled both his main advisors, malcador and the custodes commander valdor, quite a bit with valdor flat out stating "that he then still bound by his human weaknesses "
In 40k he is become basically a god / the collective gestalt intelligence of all mankind. During his meeting with guilliman this was revealed and how the emperor is desperately fighting against his ascension into godhood as this would be a end point for his dream of a better humanity.
Theory: The Last Old Ones tried to make more races and seeded power into the Line of Humans(Psykers), the Emperor was the first to unlock more power then the rest and took power and authority onto himself. For he is only human, the Emperor is not Divine.
its not a theory that the emperor is just a man, he is a man who has immense psyker powers which made him transcend most normal humans
@@clennius in 30k that probably true but in 40k I don't know.
I really like how you input a lot of different knowledge and perspectives. I’m basically getting a mix of a reaction and a lecture. Love it
oh come one manscaped ( the midroll i got,) that brand icon kinda givin me "ugghh" vibes XD
I am genuinely excited to witness you reacting to all this deep dive lore work by Luetin09.
He's really going to be heading down a deep dive hole into 40k Lore with this one.
the void dragon thing did happen he is locked up inside mars. he is physically there. How? Hell if I know I'm only a part of the cult of the dragon. praise the Omnissiah. But yeah he is on mars and is a c'tan. so he didn't lie about that but he could be an experiment being one person said he was a dark age superweapon. whatever IT is he is not the omnissiah.
The Emperor's real name is Arnold "Ace" Judas Rimmer.
dont you mean Jimmy Space
Luetin09s recent navis Nobolite lore vid is excellent .
I always think that a major Flaw of Big e is his immortality. Immortals tend to have certain perspectives fixed. Us mortals are forced to reevaluate our waays of thinking because our time in life is finite. WE are forced by time and circumsatnces to rethink ourselves and wonder ”Hey, maybe I should consider that I am not always right.” Now consider the Emperor, with his virtually infinite time and powers, neither time nor circumstances can ever force him to admit hs own mistakes or modify his personal philosophy. He can always think ”I can live this down, just ignore my mistakes for a few decades or centuries”. His ”perfect” mind is static, it is an endless labyrinth of unfathomable knowledge, but the architecture is rigid and unmoving.
Maybe he let Horus wound him so he could take a more backseat roll and roll because he was aware of that fact
Big E injuring the dragon is based on the British legend of St. George and the dragon.
thats not a british legend lol :D according to legend st. george lived around 300 A.D. in the middle east ( then roman empire)
@@Sp3ich3rr4tt3 But it's made out to be one in England, even if it is not true! And St. George was Turkish by birth.
I heard 2 theory's on how the emperor came into being, but you can think of the emperor as a fedora wearing reddit moderator that is trying to prevent any religion.
Theory 1: seven shamans made a suicide pact back long ago and they all went through with it, forming the emperor.
Theory 2: he's possibly an old one that managed to survive the purging caused by the necrons.
There's also a theory that he's a construct from the dark age of technology. I forget where I saw that.
where does the claim that it was 7 shamans come from
as i remember it, it was all shaman psychers of that time that where perpetuals and there where thousands of them
but over time as chaos woke up a bit they started noticing some of the people they expected to return over and over again didnt get reborn
so they went looking and found out about demons and the only way to prevent it from happening was a suicide ritual merging their souls into one
even with the losses until they figured it out it where thousands of psychers
and every novel where there is anything written about what goes on in his head there are a lot more then 7 people arguing and panicking, tho thats probably because of the constant feeding him psycher thing
if they really went with the number of nurgle they should have seen it coming ending up as a neverdying pile of rotting corpse
I think it's more the old ones knew they were going to die and their pet civilizations were going to be corrupted so they made the emperor along side the shamans each would bring experiences important to his creation
@@venlil problem with that theory is that there is atleast 11 million years unaccounted for
"Reactionary" is not a description of "far-right" politics, it is the definition communists have always used to malign people who are/were loyal to the old government(s) that the communists overthrew. It has been used in this way from the Bolsheviks, Maosts, Cubans, Venezuela, Spain, everywhere it got any hold of governmental power.
I think it's more a consequence of the times that far-right politics is seen as inherently reactionary. A better description might be that they are more hierarchal and hold authority in high regard, which does harken back to earlier times more often than not.
Reactionary was originally used during the French Revolution as a way too dismiss those who were opposed to the revolution and after that other violent left wing groups would use it too against those who didn't agree with them reactionary honestly has become a very antiquated term that's not often used against right wing groups anymore but more so left wing groups trying to distance themselves from other left wing groups that are bad for optics.
This luetins video is what got me into 40k lore as it was recommended to me after watching Astartes.
It was part 2 to this series that got me into the 40k, ended up reading all the Horus Heresy books and fell in love with the universe.
Technically the Shaman origin is the only one that was actually written into a source book for 40k. All the others are either fan theories or only inferred by characters within stories - effectively NPC theories.
Whether you like the shaman concept or not, it's the closest to an official origin of the emperor GW has ever produced
It's never been stated anywhere as far as I know but I've always taken his God-like choice of aesthetic to be another form of rejecting religious ideals. It's more like "look upon me. The imagery and magics of your gods were created by me, a man. A human. So too, can your great grand children achieve what I am. If you follow me. We don't need faith in gods, because WE are the gods. And I am the example of that yadda yadda..." You know, that type of shit.
I always have believed the Emperor is the laughing god Cegorach. The one true Eldar and Human daedric Prince. He needed a new greater number of followers, hence he came into the world of man with a portion of power as the Emperor and strove to assure the Aeldari fall did not repeat a second time with humanity. The many shaman deceived into opening a warp or part of a web way to allow Cegorach to pass through and be born. He is like the most pre-meditative patient warp god of them all, he plays the long game. Plus most mysterious, hate to see him ruined.
Taking the Void Dragon vs the Emperor as a lie feels like a disagreement for the sake of disagreeing (MY BOY DANTEEEEEEE).
Most of us agree that the Emperor *did* encounter the Necron C'tan in pre-modern Earth and *did* fight it off... We just don't know how it got to Mars as a result of it.
maybe he used his warp powers to do so, wounding it to such a state that by the time it recovered by slumber that he l built a labyrinth around it. the later Martian colonists/ mechanicum would later construct around said labyrinth?
@@cr90captain89 what so he built a prison and at some point the Pre-Imperium mechanicus found it on Earth and took it back with them?
@@ryanlorenzo5003 unlikely as that would have been recorded in human history for some 25 millennia and be known by all tech priests in the unification period. the ctan by that would be common knowledge amongst the Martian people/ barbarian and mechanicum alike. it seems more plausible that it was damaged so heavily that it entered hibernation during ancient times to recover, all the while the emperor built its labyrinth prison on mars to seal it away from any that would disturb its sleep. this would both isolate the ctan while simultaneously protect humanity from its influence
magic that how.
He Put itin a pokeball
The Ork and Elder were made for one purpose only. The War with the Catan and Necrons. And were also made in a hurry.
I love the part of the lore where Emp. pretend to be much higher then others by using his jedi mind tricks...
I have been looking forward to this one!
This is going to be such a good series of videos
every Luetin vid is like a doctoral thesis. He truly is the Venerable Dreadnaught Of Lore.
Minor quibble, you mixed up the Meiji restoration with the Tokugawa Shogunate.
Tokugawa was the regressive regime, and the Meiji restoration was the opposite, extremely progressive as Japan rapidly industrialized.
The two actaully both fit the dichotomy you describe really well though.
23:00 pretty much, Luetin's videos are GREAT but often they suffer that mayor flaw, he doesn't _get_ the warp, he often tries to analyze of the warp using logic and common sense but the warp doesn't work that way, the Warp is a realm where metaphors are real and logic is a mere guideline that is often ignored.
25:50 To be fair the Eldar were fine for millions of years and the Orks are a devolution of the Krorks who were a biological weapon to fight in the War in Heaven, the MOST terrible conflict that the galaxy has ever seen.
Yes please do more of THIS video.
I assumed the last Old One made the Tyranids as a literal Universal Reset Button.
The emperor of mankind crawled out of a gold deposit, the most glorious deposit the galaxy has ever seen
Not sure I buy it but there was a theory that Big E was a made as a weapon during the war against the Men of Iron
If I were an Old One and saw this Clusterfuck of a Galaxy, after incalculable aeons spent painstakingly designing multiple species and ecosystems and whatnot, I could definitely see myself be like: Fuck it. burn it all down. For fucks sake even the Krork Project got messed up. This Galaxy does not want to stop being sick.
Finally paul thank you for getting to it.
So, my theory based on your comment about leaders and their origin methos.
He was born no earlier than a bit before the rebellion of the men of iron. He was born a powerful psyker and perpetual. He spent most of his time up to the unification war working on genetics, maybe he even was a techno Barbarian.
Around the start of the unification wars he meets Malcador, or possibly he meets him during. Either way, the crux is that he’s much younger than he’s given credit for, and it’s Malcador that gives him the idea to create this mythos. They come up with this massive history that gives him a right to rule, and use that going forward.
With all of history essentially wiped out, no one would be able to challenge it. If he actually was just a techno Barbarian, that could fit with your “no female space marines” theory as well, as well as his warrior king understanding.
From their he gets his extra super psychic powers tricking/working for the chaos gods as I’ve heard thrown around.
Yes and no, something really is deeply buried in the Noctis Labyrinth and is bad news. Nobody who goes there returns and on top of that one of the few direct attacks of Necrons towards humans was a single ship landing in Mars for no reason whatsoever which took off as soon and it landed.
the eldar lost the war in heaven
they never defeated the necrons and they definitely never defeated the cthan
the necrons defeated the cthan and then looking on at what the war had done to the galaxy they wanted to rule and decided to let time repair and regrow it
no use ruling over rubble, they where robots its not like they could repopulate the remains
the eldar barely survived the enslaver plague and the orks where left losing strength without a war to guide them
That's only because they retconned the necron/c'tan relationship. Originally the eldar won.
@@hippiecheapskate nope, i played 3e when necrons where only warriors monoliths and a lord
even when necrons where mindless machines hunting souls to fuel their machines with harvester ships the necrons won the war in heaven
There is a great scene in the most recent Cawl book where a Ctan shard is talking to Cawl and calls the Emperor a weapon
In lore if he and the custodes could were bland as fuck power armor without the aquila or the gold and capes/cloaks they would but they have to were these glamorous armor/accessories for moral of the imperium
To be fair Auramite, the material used to make the armour is naturally gold coloured.
I know that, is just that if possible the emperor would were that over gold
I want to tell you two things. One about your misconception about the Psyker Mutation of your previous video of the death korps of krieg. It's a mutation of the soul not the flesh. So to my knowledge it's not something you could see in someone's genes.
The 2nd is about this video with the dragon of Mars. In the Horus Heresy novels we actually get to see the dream of the dragon and he dreams about his fight with the Emperor. You see how he lost the fight and was dragged back to his prison. It's revealed the C'tan had somehow broken out his Terrastact Vault. Unless the Dragon glorifies his own defeat, it is actually one of the things I believe are not glorified and it simple happened. In Medieval times the emperor fought the dragon and somehow dragged it back to its prison in Mars.
2:00 The Emperor is more Human than Humans, that's why everything he does is so "Big", including his mistakes.
the last isolation period of japan started with the edo period when the tokugawa shogunate banned all foreigners entry into the country (Dutch where allowed on the island of Dojima in Nagasaki), and banned christianity. The meiji restoration was the overthrowal of the Shogunate by the Emperor (really his regents and advisors, emperor meiji was a kid back then) and was largly a modernization of the country, opening the country up and forming more western style political institutions including a standing professional army (something that the samurai class obviously didn't like all that much)
Also check out "The Last Church" when you got time.
You should check out the last church animations since it's been re uploaded by different sources. Get a look into the mind of the emperor.
Wrong vid Paul. This isn't Baldemort's Guide to Warhammer *Night Lords*
11:54
It was first Edo perios
Second it was move to starve out opposition which recieved quite lot of money through foreign trade
Third it did not ban use of firearms, it just made sure that nobility had monopoly on firearms, knightly classes usually dont like idea of peasant being able to take one of them down with 1 day of training
By the time Meiji happened they were mass producing gunpowder weaponry for centuries
The only thing about the entire idea of the Emperor overstating his achievements etc with the Void Dragon, is that one, Big E absolutely DOES NOT want to be viewed as a god, which is probably why he keeps any information about his past so shrouded (he probably did a lot of crazy things in the past), and two, that event is beyond classified. Nobody is meant to know it ever happened. The fact that the Void Dragon is even on Mars is even a secret to the Fabricator General himself, the Emperor having forbidden anyone from opening the Noctis Labyrinth where the shard was 'entombed'. Given this insane level of secrecy regarding the event, we can be absolutely certain that no matter what actually happened, the Emperor did not intend to use it to shape others' perceptions of him, he never wanted them to know about it. Which is pretty typical of the Emperor, another reason I think that he genuinely does not want to be viewed as a god (and is just very naïve in some regards) - He is always trying to limit knowledge of his exploits. If you *wanted* to be seen as a god, the easiest way to do so is to make sure everyone knows about your greatest moments and your superhuman nature. The Emperor, by contrast, deliberately hid those things. Sure, he shrouded it in enough mystery that it led many to come up with their own fantasies of his divinity, but I don't think that he meant to do that. I think that it was one of his failings. However, if you consider the political and ideological landscape during the Great Crusade, you will also realize that the Emperor was actually doing a fairly good job of convincing people that he's just a really great man, despite all the evidence painting him as something greater. It took hundreds of years before anyone thought, "You know, that guy sure is godlike," and that arguably only happened because of the influence of Chaos. Left alone, humanity may have actually accepted the Emperor's view that he was simply the ultimate potential of mankind. At least, they may have done so for much longer.
My favorite theory is humans are the Exodite equivilant of the Necrontyr or some expeiment the Silent King did in his free time.
Way too many parallels with the Necrotyr, the whole thing with the CTan shard on Mars, the Phariah gene, Nercons turning Humans into Necrons, Necrons also not automatically genociding humans on every tombworld, Egypt, Big E and Szarekh more or less being the same dude except warp instead of CTan, Trazyn helping on Cadia...
22:00 that was a really interesting idea
Your comment about the Old Ones wiping the slate clean actually ties directly into a theory of mine that the Tyranids are actually bioweapons created by the Old Ones (maybe surviving ones) for this exact purpose. In recent lore updates that's almost certainly not the case, but it would make sense. The Old Ones creating a nigh unstoppable race of perfect murder organisms that equate to essentially a giant biological DELETE button.
They would be closer to an archive or library than a delete button imo
This luetin video introduce me to Warhamer40k
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. in godblight, he speaks through guilliman and scares sooooo much mortarion, in short, he is waking up, and probably if he is not already, becoming a god, that tipe of god that exists thanks to beings who believe in him, in my opinion
just started great the video, amazing choice :)
The government systems of the planets does change, the Empire doesn't care about the planetary government, be it theocratic, monarchist, democratic etc. along as they pay taxes in resources and soldiers.
The Emperor has multiple personalities that were merged into one, after being mortally wounded that unified personality also was fractured and now he basically has multiple personality disorder.
The Emperor would have the childhood experience not only of his own childhood but also of the hundreds of Shamans that combined to create him.
The Emperor is but a man, and that's what makes his tragedy so great. He's not just fractured his soul and mind he's taken a role upon himself which no man was made for yet still he tries for he loves us all. 40kness aside the core principles of the emperor are ag reat framework for an "atheist/humanist" religious doctrine in real life. Unity, diversity, science and brotherhood. The emperor protects but the emperor is just a man thus we have the potential to aspire to his example. The emperor protects, we must protect.
The biggest Irony of the Imperial Cult is that the Lectitio Divinitatus, the core book on the Emperor's divinity, were written by Lorgar Aurelian - Primarch of the Word Bearers - Who would be among those that turn traitor, and start worshipping Chaos Undivided. They would be the very first Legion to convert the Chaos worship which leads on the Erebus of the Word Bearers corrupting Horus Lupercal and thus igniting the Horus Heresy.
i think the emperor being the collective souls reincarnated from the early psykers makes the most sense, why would the emperor need the souls of 1000 psykers per day to survive if this were not true. it's like he's building a more powerful ubersoul in the same manner that he was originally created, hopefully in preparation to fully reincarnate himself more powerful than he has ever been before.
How did he come to be?
I believe that natural psychers combined, some of different times, and combine there powers to become something almost God like.
In regards to what you said about him deliberately fostering a godlike appearance, but denying divinity: I think his purpose in doing this was to say "I am no god, I am a man, and as such, the potential within all men exists to become like me", he wanted to inspire people to believe that they weren't reliant on a god to become powerful, and this aligns with his eventual goal of turning humanity into a psychic race without any religious beliefs, he WAS going to turn humanity into beings like himself, but that end goal was unfortunately derailed (thanks Magnus....)
You know a lot of the lore on behind the emperor a lot of it does sound a lot like propaganda like what if this image of perfection and an inability to fail is actually a lie and the Emporer is just as flawed as anyone else and all the lore is really propaganda of the Imperium. And considering how he looks it's even possible he might not look like that. Would be amusing if he looks like the Chaos God of Atheism
warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Necoho
The behavior of the Emperor and him are eerily similar. Would be amusing if the Emporer looks nothing like his depictions of a massive man with golden armor but a small hunched over man with a ironic smile on his face.
Man God or God Man?!?
A great example would be
Man vs machines
And by that i mean the conflict between mankind and machinery in the workplace where for example a car factory might have hired thousands of workers to manufacturing many cars but now there’s only a few dozen people in the factory doing odd jobs ie repairs, maintenance, site overseers, specialists and so on since most of it are done by machines and so eventually it stems to the question of what makes humans valuable? And how does that effect both society and the economy since more humans will be out of jobs meaning less jobs and less taxable income for the economy as well as people sitting home doing nothing much, and so when robots eventually takes over the majority of human jobs ie farming, shop, street cleaning or even security and so on, how will that effect how we interact with each other or how it effects society as a whole since due to the ease of communication, people call each other rather than talk to each other despite sitting right in front of them, if not we’d either plug in and listen to some music or play a game.
10:05 most of Europe were under monarchies during/before WW1. Most of them were however constitutional monarchies, where the monarchs were not all that powerful.
Meiji Restoration was about overthrowing the Shogun and restoring the power of the Emperor after which a British style constitutional monarchy was established. Meiji Era was an era of modernization for Japan. Japan closing itself off happened much earlier, during the reign of the Tokugawa Shogunate. It is called Sakoku and lasted from 1630s to 1853.
30:05 let me stop you right there buddy. The Emperor does not describe himself as divine. Pretty much the exact opposite really.
Wait were you talking about when the samurai revolted? They actually did it to maintain social classes they used guns.
Hey Paul if you want to take a break from the warhammer content. There is a series called "Hellsing Ultimate Abridged" by team four star. It would be fun to see you react to that
We all know the text-to-speech Emperor creation story is 100% correct.
One thing I find funny is that Paul talked once about applying modern concepts and morals to the 40k verse as pointless, yet he still makes the theory that the emperor internalized the concept of women's role in society being mother's. Hmm
I personally sub to shaman theory
Definitive lore video on the Emporer?
I'm more partial towards Baldermort for that kind of thing
Only because looks like a god doesnt make him a god.
Dont teach me what to wear , teach em not to prayer
TTS had been put down by GW like a lot of other fan based sites (Sodaz) and videos.
It´s over....Money talks.
OK, I followed 40k now for over 30 years.
I have seen it growing from a small tabeltop group to a big business company.
In Germany even today it is a small, nearly unknown section of the SF and Fantasy world.
And now I will see the begin of 40k´s fall.
They are on a crusade against their own fans and the people which worked so hard to bring new fans to this fascinating and growing universe.
Interesting to see that on all official GW sites the comment functions are down.
They knew, why.
It was nice, it was big, it was new and now it is over.
Time to go....
It finally occurred to me, somehow he need to get Paul to react to these lore video's with Wolf Lord Rho. That way when he says Lore Experts, Rho is ready and able to jump in. Also, I think it would fun to pair this heretical thinking combat vet with the reverent reviewer or lore to see how things churn up.
Might I suggest the Dominion of Choas by luetin? also a very underreacted channel is Occulus Imperia, he does very IN UNIVERSE lore vids as an imperial historian. this one is about the horrific Psi-Titans: th-cam.com/video/mQu-g8K7qtc/w-d-xo.html
30.27 tell that to Graham Mcneil Paul
To be fair Orks/Krorks were only made to fight the Necrons/Ctans and they were pretty desperate.
Bothered by how much he radiates Godhood and yet doesn't want to be considered a god?
Man, you should watch If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device. They make quips about that constantly, and the Emperor absolutely flips his sh*t when he finds out about the Ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition.
Conservatives are not opposed to change, rather they act to ensure that the change made is slow, considered and principaled.
It is wrong to ascribe left of center as liberals. Liberty is always centrist though in some cases its the center right that are the liberals if the country has a long tradition of liberty.
Progressive is the more accurate opposite on conservative as each highlights their focus.
Far left is the opposite of far right.
13:00 due to western intervention
you need to watch part 2...
I like the TTS version of Emperor who just likes dressing in gold and being awesome, and is annoyed that everyone take that as a sign of divinity.