That's a sound that will never get old when I was a kid I use to hear that sound out in the fields around my way and it still sounds just as good today john deere truly is the best
Cooool great vid... thanks for doing . Woww if no JD or IH or these pony engines or big bigger engines World would have NO food no agriculture. Thank God for all those smart people ( men) who dreamed designed built mfgd these machines and engines So great watchn learning here in USA
This brings back memories! I've spent many hours working with my grandfather's R, which was just exactly like these in your video. Throttle up to idle or a little more depending on temperature, pull the choke and mixture a bit, starter on, fiddle with choke and mixture until it sings, pull and hold compression release, pull starter lever, turn over a few times, release compression release, remember you forgot to take the coffee can off the stack as it flies into the air. Those were the days! :)
The neighbor had one of these back in 1957. Used to hear him running it far into the night. I sure wanted to drive it - loved those 2 cyl John Deeres. Had to settle for IH WD9.
I was just old enough to drive a tractor like this when they were made. The complaint was that nothing ever went wrong with the diesel but the pony starting engines were a maintenance problem, due to the vibration of the diesel hammering out the crank shaft bearings in the starting motor.
Very good Ryan, I took a look at your movie. We do it all the same here as I guess you can see. I'm not a young fellow like you now & have retired some years ago but still follow the progress. Many John Deere tractors & Machinery here in Hamilton, Victoria, Australia where I live. The only real change over the last 30 years or so is the size of the machinery, and the handling of the hay, grain etc. All so big now it has to be handled by machinery. Perhaps not so many injuries now.
You should let the main motor obtain full oil pressure, count to 10, then let the compression lever go. Then advance the throttle off of the fuel stop. Rolling the engine decompressed with the fuel going into the cylinders not firing could be kind of hard on things.
Why does the commentator say to immediately cut the pony motor off after the diesel starts? I'd let it run awhile and get to the proper operating temperature before shutdown, like one would do with any engine he wanted to take care of properly.
Excellent video! I liked the way the levers were identified in the photograph; I have not seen that before. Was it up to the operator to know when the big diesel was ready to run unaided by the little engine? The invention of high performance starter motors made diesels easier to use and more popular. The starting engines were called "pony motors" by the Americans and "slave engines" by the British.
I had to park the old "R" yesterday that I use to drive back in the 80'sand for the life of me I could not remember where to check the diesel crankcase oil level. I thought it may have been on the right side of the crankcase. Did You have to turn out a plug and if oil came out the level was OK?
there was a 49 R in so illinois in the early 70s on a big grain farm it was equipped with a two handed recoil starter for the pony motor it was special order and was a kit that was dealer installed
I have seen and heard folks talk about these quiet a bit with the pony motor. They always said that you had to be careful not to mix the diesle fuel with the gasoline. Also I think that instead of diesel fuel they used another type of cheaper grade fuel back then. Go to my you tube site to see a fantastic John Deere and other tractor collection in north east Wisconsin, USA
That's a sound that will never get old when I was a kid I use to hear that sound out in the fields around my way and it still sounds just as good today john deere truly is the best
Cooool great vid... thanks for doing . Woww if no JD or IH or these pony engines or big bigger engines World would have NO food no agriculture. Thank God for all those smart people ( men) who dreamed designed built mfgd these machines and engines So great watchn learning here in USA
This brings back memories! I've spent many hours working with my grandfather's R, which was just exactly like these in your video. Throttle up to idle or a little more depending on temperature, pull the choke and mixture a bit, starter on, fiddle with choke and mixture until it sings, pull and hold compression release, pull starter lever, turn over a few times, release compression release, remember you forgot to take the coffee can off the stack as it flies into the air. Those were the days! :)
The neighbor had one of these back in 1957. Used to hear him running it far into the night. I sure wanted to drive it - loved those 2 cyl John Deeres. Had to settle for IH WD9.
Remarkable amount of work was done with these old gems.
I was just old enough to drive a tractor like this when they were made. The complaint was that nothing ever went wrong with the diesel but the pony starting engines were a maintenance problem, due to the vibration of the diesel hammering out the crank shaft bearings in the starting motor.
Very good Ryan, I took a look at your movie. We do it all the same here as I guess you can see. I'm not a young fellow like you now & have retired some years ago but still follow the progress. Many John Deere tractors & Machinery here in Hamilton, Victoria, Australia where I live. The only real change over the last 30 years or so is the size of the machinery, and the handling of the hay, grain etc. All so big now it has to be handled by machinery. Perhaps not so many injuries now.
I read that Deere did offer a 12 or 24 volt electric start on some of their 2 cylinder diesels, I think 80 was the first.
You should let the main motor obtain full oil pressure, count to 10, then let the compression lever go. Then advance the throttle off of the fuel stop. Rolling the engine decompressed with the fuel going into the cylinders not firing could be kind of hard on things.
Thank you. Very informative
What a monster... Awesome
God I miss these,,thanks!!!!
I love john Deere
OK on that, well I guess that is one of the differences between USA & Australia. The little fuel tank for the pony motor was always green here.
As far as I know the electric start wasn't an option until the 830.
Why does the commentator say to immediately cut the pony motor off after the diesel starts? I'd let it run awhile and get to the proper operating temperature before shutdown, like one would do with any engine he wanted to take care of properly.
Hamare pas b hota tha John Deere model R ab bahut saman h es ka mere pass Fazilka Punjab
I have a 1954 John Deere Model 80 that has a pony motor to. They are a bitch to keep running tough
Runs great!!!
Antonio Vieira trabalhei com um trator desse nos ano 60.muito bo
I have 4 like this tractor it these 1952
great video
Excellent video!
I liked the way the levers were identified in the photograph; I have not seen that before.
Was it up to the operator to know when the big diesel was ready to run unaided by the little engine?
The invention of high performance starter motors made diesels easier to use and more popular.
The starting engines were called "pony motors" by the Americans and "slave engines" by the British.
Man very very nice video! complicated controls lol!
I love to sit in a john Deere r
the R was made from 40 to 55 the early ones were called mx they looked like a case la
@ford9572 actually it was late 720sand they were 24volts
how many MPH did these John Deere R types go when in high fifth gear? Great explanation. Really interesting.
yeah the dog. He was running fast.
It was a 24 volt starter.
Yo hice un tractor o mejor dicho un tractorcito con el motor de un R hice una réplica de 4430, me gustaría que lo vean,
What kind of engine was the pony? Looks like either a flathead 4-stroke or a two-stroke.
douro20 2 cylinder opposed 4 stroke
I also have a john Deere model R.But I think you have the pony motors gas tank the wrong color. It should be red.
I also have a john Deere model 1954 R
Memories
I've seen ones converted to electric
5:31
He sounds like Mitch Taylor
is the pony motor two stroke?
As far as I know, Yes it is 2 stroke & revs about 4000 RPM to start the big motor.
Oliver Gellert they are 4 stroke, just high rpm :)
two stroke 1150 RPM max 395 torque john deere favorite model 1954 r
Model aw,lol
RUBBISH them pony motors and get an electric starter!!!!!!
You're right!
JD R 1949-1954
JD 80 1955-1956
JD 820 1956-1958
JD 830 1958-1960
I had to park the old "R" yesterday that I use to drive back in the 80'sand for the life of me I could not remember where to check the diesel crankcase oil level. I thought it may have been on the right side of the crankcase. Did You have to turn out a plug and if oil came out the level was OK?
there was a 49 R in so illinois in the early 70s on a big grain farm it was equipped with a two handed recoil starter for the pony motor it was special order and was a kit that was dealer installed
I have seen and heard folks talk about these quiet a bit with the pony motor. They always said that you had to be careful not to mix the diesle fuel with the gasoline. Also I think that instead of diesel fuel they used another type of cheaper grade fuel back then. Go to my you tube site to see a fantastic John Deere and other tractor collection in north east Wisconsin, USA
JD R is awesome
Are you say 9 a 49 to 9 a 54, I don't understand.
Also, they had the model 820.
6:07 look to the right of the tractor.
4:33 - Imagine a Simca sports car powered by a pony motor...
My Uncle Has one, They are fun to drive.
amazing! i just love old working constructions!
Well done!!
thanks for sharing