love to see a fictional online racing series with just the prewar European ovals and cars 1 - Sitges-Terramar (Spanish Oval Grand Prix) 2 - Linas-Montlhéry Oval (French Oval Grand Prix) 3 - AVUS (Double banked version) (German Oval Grand Prix) 4 - Monza Oval (Italian Oval Grand Prix) 5 - Brooklands (British Oval Grand Prix) Thank you for the video!!
I also thought about the long layout when editint this video. However, it was already exceptional they give me this tour. But I can always ask for a possibility to film the long track. I also want to visit a classic event on this circuit once.
Thanks! Yes it is one of the oldest operation circuits. The oldest purpose built race track that is still operational is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, which opened in 1909.
@@Circuitsofthepast , hadn't considered the Stateside tracks. They were about everywhere back in their day. Overtime closed down and whatnot. Thanks for this.
My dad took me to a race at this track in 1985. The circumstances were we lived in France and he'd purchased a Rover (actually the MG badger version) Montego. We'd had numerous reliability issue with it ofc. Somehow the Rover dealer got him tickets for this race as a commercial gesture and we went along to witness Jean Louis Schlesser winning the French touring car championship in his Rover Vitesse. Although I was only 7, I always remember being awestruck by the banking which we could see from our position far away.
Leider kann die komplette Strecke bis runter zu Les Biscornes nicht mehr befahren werden da der Linksknick nach Epingle de Bruyeres auf die Gerade zu Les Biscorne heute ein verwildertes Waldstück mit Asphaltresten ist ... es gibt auch nur ganz wenige Aufnahmen die den Streckenabschnitt nach Lacets de Couard zeigen.... wie immer ein tolles Video Hermann
Toen ik deze video monteerde dacht ik daar ook aan. Maar ik denk dat het moeilijk gaat worden. Het was al uitzonderlijk dat ik deze rondleiding kreeg. Maar ik kan het altijd een keer vragen. In elk geval wil ik er nog een keer naartoe wanneer er een evenement is.
@@Circuitsofthepast I was going to say something about the banking but I was not sure of the facts but does the curved shape follow some mathematical formula or is it a simple curve and unlike the banking at, say Indianapolis which (I think) is a simple slope this one is very significant upon how much you are up the slope with how quickly you must go. (I think). Told you I was not sure of facts. It just intrigues me. On films showing old Brooklands film the big cars were always higher on the banking than the smaller cars and there must be a point at which the forces on the car were a minimum.
At Brooklands there were rules where to drive. The higher the speed, the higher they have to drive on the banking. At Linas-Montlhéry the circuit director told me that if you drive 180 Km per hour (112 Mph) you can take your hands off the wheel and the car sends itself through the cornering.
@@Circuitsofthepast Pity about everybody streaming past as you were having a leisurely smoke with feet up on the dashboard :-). I hope those manufacturers of auto driving thingies don't read this, it may give them ideas.
hey herman, Emmanuel here, at 2:38 and 6:51 the corner next to the banking I think is where a young Ronnie Peterson (known as the 'Superswede') might have clipped the barriers and flipped over his car during a F3 event which his car caught fire but was lucky to walk away from the accident unharmed as seen in the documentary about the Swedish formula one legend. I hope that gives you some knowledge and insight to the track's history though. :)
If they rebuilt the oval with less banking and modern amenities, they could attract indycar for a European round. Just imagine 750 HP monsters on a rechristened "Circuit Linas-Montlhery, route Simon Pagenaud"
I think it would be a loss of another historic motorsport venue if the would replace the classic banking by a modern oval. Let Montlhéry stay what it is now, a classic track for testing and amateur racing.
The banking is too steep for IndyCar and the surface too bumpy. Actually, the track is only suitable for touringcar racing, not for modern single seaters.
love to see a fictional online racing series with just the prewar European ovals and cars
1 - Sitges-Terramar (Spanish Oval Grand Prix)
2 - Linas-Montlhéry Oval (French Oval Grand Prix)
3 - AVUS (Double banked version) (German Oval Grand Prix)
4 - Monza Oval (Italian Oval Grand Prix)
5 - Brooklands (British Oval Grand Prix)
Thank you for the video!!
Thanks. I also like these classic high banked ovals. PS: I visited all tracks in your top 5 :)
A truly classic track! Love to see the longer layout- ah, well, perhaps another day, eh?
I also thought about the long layout when editint this video. However, it was already exceptional they give me this tour. But I can always ask for a possibility to film the long track. I also want to visit a classic event on this circuit once.
@@Circuitsofthepast I would love to see what remains of the full circuit if you get the chance!
Nice one Herman. These reworkings are great. This Autodrome Linas must be about the oldest purpose built track still running. Thanks Herman!
Thanks! Yes it is one of the oldest operation circuits. The oldest purpose built race track that is still operational is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, which opened in 1909.
@@Circuitsofthepast , hadn't considered the Stateside tracks. They were about everywhere back in their day. Overtime closed down and whatnot. Thanks for this.
a great education as usual with every lost speedway's piece!
Thanks!
Very cool, i love the old circuits and their history🔝🏎🏁
Thanks!
My dad took me to a race at this track in 1985. The circumstances were we lived in France and he'd purchased a Rover (actually the MG badger version) Montego. We'd had numerous reliability issue with it ofc. Somehow the Rover dealer got him tickets for this race as a commercial gesture and we went along to witness Jean Louis Schlesser winning the French touring car championship in his Rover Vitesse. Although I was only 7, I always remember being awestruck by the banking which we could see from our position far away.
Thanks for sharing this memory!
Awesome video once again!
Thanks!
Sorry if my voice is a bit scratchy in this one. I have a little cold! Superb track though.
Loving the work been a anvid for years, what's your favourite circuit of all time? Do you also have any social media channels?
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Isnt this where Ken block filmed gymkhana 3?
Yes that was here :)
Leider kann die komplette Strecke bis runter zu Les Biscornes nicht mehr befahren werden da der Linksknick nach Epingle de Bruyeres auf die Gerade zu Les Biscorne heute ein verwildertes Waldstück mit Asphaltresten ist ... es gibt auch nur ganz wenige Aufnahmen die den Streckenabschnitt nach Lacets de Couard zeigen.... wie immer ein tolles Video Hermann
Danke!
will you ever make a video of the long circuit if you can? / ga je ooit een video maken van het lange circuit als je kan ?
Toen ik deze video monteerde dacht ik daar ook aan. Maar ik denk dat het moeilijk gaat worden. Het was al uitzonderlijk dat ik deze rondleiding kreeg. Maar ik kan het altijd een keer vragen. In elk geval wil ik er nog een keer naartoe wanneer er een evenement is.
Great video! Sorry if I missed this, but how steep is the banking here?
52 degrees.
Herman are you ever going to do a video of Watkins glen because It was used as an f1 track to.
That's on my to do list.
That is a very interesting Track.
Yes it is. Especially because it have an operational classic banking.
@@Circuitsofthepast I was going to say something about the banking but I was not sure of the facts but does the curved shape follow some mathematical formula or is it a simple curve and unlike the banking at, say Indianapolis which (I think) is a simple slope this one is very significant upon how much you are up the slope with how quickly you must go. (I think).
Told you I was not sure of facts. It just intrigues me. On films showing old Brooklands film the big cars were always higher on the banking than the smaller cars and there must be a point at which the forces on the car were a minimum.
At Brooklands there were rules where to drive. The higher the speed, the higher they have to drive on the banking. At Linas-Montlhéry the circuit director told me that if you drive 180 Km per hour (112 Mph) you can take your hands off the wheel and the car sends itself through the cornering.
@@Circuitsofthepast Pity about everybody streaming past as you were having a leisurely smoke with feet up on the dashboard :-). I hope those manufacturers of auto driving thingies don't read this, it may give them ideas.
it held the French Gran Prix but f1 didn't exist so what series was it back then?
There were already Grand Prix races before there was Formula 1. It was the forerunner of F1 and the series was called Grand Prix.
Maybe the longer version of the road circuit is for testing
Yes, I understood so from the people who showed me around.
What if they resurface it and hold some sort of race on it like NASCAR (or other oval racing series)...?
I like that idea. Than they can also refurbish the Monza Oval and Sitges-Terramar.
hey herman,
Emmanuel here, at 2:38 and 6:51 the corner next to the banking I think is where a young Ronnie Peterson (known as the 'Superswede') might have clipped the barriers and flipped over his car during a F3 event which his car caught fire but was lucky to walk away from the accident unharmed as seen in the documentary about the Swedish formula one legend.
I hope that gives you some knowledge and insight to the track's history though. :)
Thanks for the information. I did some investigation. It was in 1969 and he started the race from pole position with his March Ford.
This circuit is still in use for what?
Testing and amateur competition on the short road circuit.
If they rebuilt the oval with less banking and modern amenities, they could attract indycar for a European round. Just imagine 750 HP monsters on a rechristened "Circuit Linas-Montlhery, route Simon Pagenaud"
Oh, and since I'm honoring Frenchmen who made it in the USA, the infield road course would be called "route Sebastien Bourdais"
I think it would be a loss of another historic motorsport venue if the would replace the classic banking by a modern oval. Let Montlhéry stay what it is now, a classic track for testing and amateur racing.
J en ai fait des km sur cette piste, pendant 40 ans....
This could be a nice little oval for stock car racing.
Yeah I suggest that years ago in an article, to revive the classic European high banked ovals for an European NASCAR series.
Definitely needs some maintenance if it's still an active track
I't active for testing and club races. It can have some maintenance, but it should not lose the classic looks.
@@Circuitsofthepast I was definitely not thinking gravel traps and all that stuff. Just stuff like a new pit area or a resurface maybe
@@PuncakeLena I understand. However, I think it should keep it's classic pit. It's not a Formula 1 track.
It would be so awesome to have indycar races here. Perfect place for the french Grand Prix
The banking is too steep for IndyCar and the surface too bumpy. Actually, the track is only suitable for touringcar racing, not for modern single seaters.
Can organize a NASCAR event
Yeah would be cool for a race in the European NASCAR series.
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