I'm a mixing & mastering engineer who works in Pro Tools & feel major studios closings should motivate Avid to start paying more attention to the indy producer & engineer market. In business you have to evolve to stay relevant!
@VinceJackson1 - The game of music making is just that....Making music (and making money). There is no such thing as an antiquated equipment if it helps the user create their end product. Music is a business, but it's not in the same vein as banking, automobile production, or aviation. In photography, no buyer do or doesn't purchase a photographer's work because he or she is using a specific brand or model of camera, or edited the photo that's being shown on their website or gallery was done using a popular photo editing software. Just like no Bob Dylan fan says they dislike a song his in the 2000's because the accompanying pianist is playing a 2003 Yamaha as opposed to a 1958 Cramer.
It is so ironic that you posted this video. Protools was always my go to. Finances made me switch to Logic. I've been there ever since. I have been contemplating on whether I should switch back or not.
7:49 This last take is the key to me that people is missing. It doesn't matter what u use, do u know how to mix! For me, once I went to music engineering school, I learned the structure. I can take that system and mix on anything. U have to work on ur craft no matter what u use to make it sound good. If u give me the stems blank, no problem. If u give me the stems with plugins already used on them, I as a engineer need to have those plugins so I can go forward. Having a software thats industry standard doesn't mean ur mix will be industry standard. 2 different standards. U still need to know whats ur target mix is for. Radio, film, tv, album, etc have different guidelines. In my opinion use whatever software u are familiar with so u can make a good mix, then go from there to address all the different platforms. Now tv, film, gaming; there is some things u need from the start to make that work. So if u starting with those then do ur research on the tools u need. Stop worrying about if its industry standard and learn how to mix 1st! All this to me is like when people would say, I made my beat on hardware not computer or vice versa. If the beat is hard, it doesn't matter what u made it on!!
I think Pro Tools is still the industry standard for mixing, arranging and tracking vocals. A lot of producers who create outside of Pro Tools still drag their multi-tracks and stems into Pro Tools for mixing and arranging. A lot of major musicians and producers still use Pro Tools, from Hans Zimmer to Ye to Ken Lewis to Jake One to Dr. Dre and many more. A lot of people just use Pro Tools as a digital multi track recorder and for that it doesn't have to actually be the best DAW, people use it because they've been using it for years and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I wonder why people so but* hurt about this subject. Some people aren't even in the industry that have this debate the most. You and a few have broke down the subject and have clear understanding of how people have their workflow these days. Thanks for sharing your feedback and experience!!!!!
Most of the people that record at home were never going to be people that went to professional studios for the most part. Studios are closing but some are also open. If a label is going to distribute your bedroom production 9 times out of 10 they will send it to a mastering house who probably use protools LOL
Very well said! I started getting into production with Cakewalk back in '99. By 2002, I switched to Cubase & haven't looked back! I never got into the pro tools thing, even when they started allowing users to use the software without the hardware. I just never jumped on the bandwagon! Of course, I'm not a professional producer so it's not like I was working in the major studios either! Just in my basement! Lol
Thanks for watching. You do good work so obviously you’ve found a workflow that doesn’t get in your way. I’ve tried Cubase several times and it just didn’t click for me lol 😂
PRO TOOLS BEEN THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY USES IT AND DEMANDS IT!!! THATS WHY IS SIMPLE YOU DONT HAVE TO LIKE IT BUT YOU WILL RESPECT IT, AND IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE IT YOU WONT BE IN THAT ROOM, IS THAT SIMPLE.
Appreciate the insightful post along with your closing statement! How one flips the tools they have at their disposal is often what matters most. Don’t let not having the latest and greatest this or that hamper your creativity!
I follow you on TikTok and just stumbled onto your channel on here. Instantly subbed. Bolo Da Producer's video actually is in response to a long time Pro Tools user (Barry Johns) who recently switched over to Cubase. He made a video discussing his issues with Pro Tools over the years.
The industry and big business and big studios, They are the same ones who give artists only pennies on the dollar, when they take 80 to 95 for themselves, the industry who still believes everyone must do separate final mastering and mixdowns after everything is already done and good. everyone is correct I think in saying it's an industry that's no longer , and that might be a good thing so that everyone actually gets a fair shot in the music business, not the appearance of the music business.
I had Cubase back in 2008 and I didn't like it at all so I went to hardware then in 2012 I got FL. I tried Protools in 2014 but I didn't like that either so I stayed with FL. Nowadays, I record everything to a Tascam DP24SD then master it with FL Studio. The Quality is disrespectfully powerful.
I use pro tools since 2007. To say it’s still industry standard is not as valid as back then. FL Studio is pretty good. I started out with Cubase SX and Cubase was easier to maneuver and navigate but I bought the Digi Design 003 so I couldn’t use Cubase anymore
Yes it was the industry standard for large format studio facilities but those days are gone now. It’s way too many other solutions that get the job done. Digidesign is dead and Avid is just a money pit. Welcome to 2025.
Maaaaan…more NUANCED, UNBIASED AND NON-TRIBAL discussion lol. Thanks for that bro. Too much tribal/brand-extremism. If it works for you…use it….who cares what is or isn’t the “industry standard in 2025.
Most high profile engineers and major studios use ProTools so that why its called “industry standard” your average beatmaker is on Logic, Ableton or Fl studio because the midi capabilities are much better than PT. Certain DAws are more efficient for certain things. I dont even know why its a topic of discussion. Who really cares 😂😂😂 Bolo was bored…
You sound dumb… protocols is the industry standard because EVERY STUDIO IN ATLANTA USES PROTOOLS… in 20 years I’ve never seen a studio use any other DAW… it’s the standard not because it’s the best, because it’s the most common … y’all slow af😂😂😂
He just talking about TH-cam producers. I live in Atlanta and Memphis back and forth and in the studios it’s like 75% protools 25% logic/cubase. I haven’t seen any other daws in major studios or engineer schools. I only seen little kids use fl studios on their laptops.
To Me, The Industry Standard is FL STUDIO. Why, Because Most Producers and People That Aim To Produce, Have It… 90 Percent of People Who Work on Music Has FL… So The Independent Artist is Actually The Industry… Is FL The Best, Nope, But to Me, it Inspires Me to Complete The Mastering Process with GLEE Because of How It LOOKS… Plus It Gets The Job Done at A Professional Level.
@@harleywallace7060 FL gang, drawing in notes with a mouse, drag and drop from Splice. 😅 You wittle guys are too funny. Just leave the Pro Tools to the pro's anyway... We'll handle it from here.
I'm a mixing & mastering engineer who works in Pro Tools & feel major studios closings should motivate Avid to start paying more attention to the indy producer & engineer market. In business you have to evolve to stay relevant!
Yea I agree.
@VinceJackson1 -
The game of music making is just that....Making music (and making money). There is no such thing as an antiquated equipment if it helps the user create their end product. Music is a business, but it's not in the same vein as banking, automobile production, or aviation.
In photography, no buyer do or doesn't purchase a photographer's work because he or she is using a specific brand or model of camera, or edited the photo that's being shown on their website or gallery was done using a popular photo editing software.
Just like no Bob Dylan fan says they dislike a song his in the 2000's because the accompanying pianist is playing a 2003 Yamaha as opposed to a 1958 Cramer.
I totally agree
8:10 that's the answer right there, love your take.
It is so ironic that you posted this video. Protools was always my go to. Finances made me switch to Logic. I've been there ever since. I have been contemplating on whether I should switch back or not.
7:49 This last take is the key to me that people is missing. It doesn't matter what u use, do u know how to mix! For me, once I went to music engineering school, I learned the structure. I can take that system and mix on anything. U have to work on ur craft no matter what u use to make it sound good. If u give me the stems blank, no problem. If u give me the stems with plugins already used on them, I as a engineer need to have those plugins so I can go forward. Having a software thats industry standard doesn't mean ur mix will be industry standard. 2 different standards. U still need to know whats ur target mix is for. Radio, film, tv, album, etc have different guidelines. In my opinion use whatever software u are familiar with so u can make a good mix, then go from there to address all the different platforms. Now tv, film, gaming; there is some things u need from the start to make that work. So if u starting with those then do ur research on the tools u need. Stop worrying about if its industry standard and learn how to mix 1st! All this to me is like when people would say, I made my beat on hardware not computer or vice versa. If the beat is hard, it doesn't matter what u made it on!!
You went to school and didn’t learn anything more than a person watching TH-cam tutorials, stop it.
@Gang-25j u gotta stop the hate. Something wrong with u if u feel to reply like that.
In my humble opinion there is no "Industry Standard" because the industry has changed and is changing from what we know.
Things do change! It’s open to anything at this point.
Exactly what I said 💯
protools was the industry standard. the industry dont really exist no more
Only people that have no idea what they're talking about say stuff like this.
I think Pro Tools is still the industry standard for mixing, arranging and tracking vocals.
A lot of producers who create outside of Pro Tools still drag their multi-tracks and stems into Pro Tools for mixing and arranging.
A lot of major musicians and producers still use Pro Tools, from Hans Zimmer to Ye to Ken Lewis to Jake One to Dr. Dre and many more.
A lot of people just use Pro Tools as a digital multi track recorder and for that it doesn't have to actually be the best DAW, people use it because they've been using it for years and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Finally Somebody got it right. I watched all of them and so far the best thought process
Thanks for watching. 🙏🏾
I wonder why people so but* hurt about this subject. Some people aren't even in the industry that have this debate the most. You and a few have broke down the subject and have clear understanding of how people have their workflow these days. Thanks for sharing your feedback and experience!!!!!
Thanks for watching! I think ppl just get emotionally invested in a thought (idea) as fact and hate to see their foundational “truths” broken. 🤷🏾♂️
Hey keep up the good work on this great conversation and might I say in your video production is wonderful keep up the good work
Most of the people that record at home were never going to be people that went to professional studios for the most part. Studios are closing but some are also open. If a label is going to distribute your bedroom production 9 times out of 10 they will send it to a mastering house who probably use protools LOL
Very well said! I started getting into production with Cakewalk back in '99. By 2002, I switched to Cubase & haven't looked back! I never got into the pro tools thing, even when they started allowing users to use the software without the hardware. I just never jumped on the bandwagon! Of course, I'm not a professional producer so it's not like I was working in the major studios either! Just in my basement! Lol
Thanks for watching. You do good work so obviously you’ve found a workflow that doesn’t get in your way. I’ve tried Cubase several times and it just didn’t click for me lol 😂
PRO TOOLS BEEN THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY USES IT AND DEMANDS IT!!! THATS WHY IS SIMPLE YOU DONT HAVE TO LIKE IT BUT YOU WILL RESPECT IT, AND IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE IT YOU WONT BE IN THAT ROOM, IS THAT SIMPLE.
Not wrong!
Appreciate the insightful post along with your closing statement! How one flips the tools they have at their disposal is often what matters most. Don’t let not having the latest and greatest this or that hamper your creativity!
Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
I follow you on TikTok and just stumbled onto your channel on here. Instantly subbed. Bolo Da Producer's video actually is in response to a long time Pro Tools user (Barry Johns) who recently switched over to Cubase. He made a video discussing his issues with Pro Tools over the years.
Thanks. Yes I realized from watching Bolos vid his stance was based off Barry’s. So not refuting anyone, just giving my take from my perspective.
Cubase gang ! I SEE YOU! 👀🔋
The industry and big business and big studios,
They are the same ones who give artists only pennies on the dollar, when they take 80 to 95 for themselves, the industry who still believes
everyone must do separate final mastering and mixdowns after
everything is already done and good. everyone is correct I think in saying it's an industry that's no longer , and that might be a good thing
so that everyone actually gets a fair shot in the music business, not the appearance of the music business.
My Standard is Studio One
Studio One Gang!!! 💪🏾
I Agree!!!
Facts, been on s1 since 2012 I live 10 from their office
PT is the industry standard for recording and mixing, not beat making.
This is the best video on this topic that I've watched. Well explained & makes sense. Non bias whatsoever
Thank you for your insightful take on this topic - some great points made :)
I had Cubase back in 2008 and I didn't like it at all so I went to hardware then in 2012 I got FL. I tried Protools in 2014 but I didn't like that either so I stayed with FL. Nowadays, I record everything to a Tascam DP24SD then master it with FL Studio. The Quality is disrespectfully powerful.
I use pro tools since 2007. To say it’s still industry standard is not as valid as back then. FL Studio is pretty good. I started out with Cubase SX and Cubase was easier to maneuver and navigate but I bought the Digi Design 003 so I couldn’t use Cubase anymore
Yessir. Well stated👍🏾
Well said doc.
My standard is Nuendo.
Nuendo is right there but you are correct on post production
Yes it was the industry standard for large format studio facilities but those days are gone now. It’s way too many other solutions that get the job done. Digidesign is dead and Avid is just a money pit. Welcome to 2025.
Maaaaan…more NUANCED, UNBIASED AND NON-TRIBAL discussion lol.
Thanks for that bro.
Too much tribal/brand-extremism.
If it works for you…use it….who cares what is or isn’t the “industry standard in 2025.
Thanks. I’ll try to keep that energy here!
no doubt, did MJ and Madonna have PT? hell no
Most high profile engineers and major studios use ProTools so that why its called “industry standard” your average beatmaker is on Logic, Ableton or Fl studio because the midi capabilities are much better than PT. Certain DAws are more efficient for certain things. I dont even know why its a topic of discussion. Who really cares 😂😂😂 Bolo was bored…
You sound dumb… protocols is the industry standard because EVERY STUDIO IN ATLANTA USES PROTOOLS… in 20 years I’ve never seen a studio use any other DAW… it’s the standard not because it’s the best, because it’s the most common … y’all slow af😂😂😂
He just talking about TH-cam producers. I live in Atlanta and Memphis back and forth and in the studios it’s like 75% protools 25% logic/cubase. I haven’t seen any other daws in major studios or engineer schools. I only seen little kids use fl studios on their laptops.
To Me, The Industry Standard is FL STUDIO. Why, Because Most Producers and People That Aim To Produce, Have It… 90 Percent of People Who Work on Music Has FL… So The Independent Artist is Actually The Industry… Is FL The Best, Nope, But to Me, it Inspires Me to Complete The Mastering Process with GLEE Because of How It LOOKS… Plus It Gets The Job Done at A Professional Level.
Pro tools is no longer the industry standard.
No one that actually know's anything about the industry speaks like this. So we def know who the bedroom only producers are by comments like this.
Yes we sure do by folks who post this comment specifically!
@@harleywallace7060 FL gang, drawing in notes with a mouse, drag and drop from Splice. 😅 You wittle guys are too funny. Just leave the Pro Tools to the pro's anyway... We'll handle it from here.
Obviously you’re not a pro then. But that’s ok just listen and learn from those who really make real music.