Life Inside A Panther Turret Bunker (Cross Section)
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Several defensive lines were devised by the German High command to protect German territorial gains made in the early phases of the war, such as the Panther-Wotan line on the Eastern Front, the Atlantic Wall in Northern France, as well as others in Italy and Germany. This need led to the development of what was called the Pantherturm - Panther Bunker Turret, and today we're looking inside!
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Like video
Make a King Tiger cross section
Wait. You bought a jet?
The bird chirping SFXs are superfluous and unnecessary. They don't add to the story. They compete with the other SFX and voice-over in the context of this video. I appreciate the editor wanting to add more depth. But it gets lost with the tank SFX and voice.
The driver quit 💀
BR
Don't cry bro. 🙌 ☕
Yes that. But I don't think drivers will get that back turret
Nah he j'd out
So did the radio operator
XD 😂
The idea of using tank guns as turrets is actually ingenious.
It's simple, easy, less time consuming to setup and it doesn't require you to have a separate facility to manufacture the parts needed.
It saves money, time, manpower and makes for more efficient logistics.
Id say that less time consuming is debatable, youve gotta build a giant hole, walls around it and more
@@Alguien644 They had to build the bunkers anyway, this was just deciding what armament to put on them
Not only that, but also the turret made a smaller target for other tanks.
They actually did the same thing with turrets from the Gneisenau in Norway. Same concept on steroids.
@@Alguien644 It's for defense. If you are building defenses, you have the time to build defense.
Imagine chilling with the homies in a panther turret bunker. Must have been hella chill
Maybe even the "cat's meow?"
But the constant fear of being flanked must have been crazy
@@Tom-bm3hxI think a lot of Panther models had MG34/42 mounted aside the main cannon. You could also have a MG crew set up nearby the turret/bunker and take turns manning it. If anyone tried to assault the bunker, the MG team could spot and engage them from another angle while the attackers are focused on the bunker. This is just my overactive imagination and to my knowledge, not based on any factual events.
Fr, the one in the thumbnail and first clip seems comfy
I think fighting as a soldier in world war 2 is the very opposite of chill
When you want to be in a tank but you are ordered by your command for defense:
Lol
@@Irishcountryballwastaken Insightful reply. It’s the most TH-cam comment ever.
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“Commander, I want to be assigned a Tank”
Commander: Tank? We have Tank at home 😉
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Simple History:
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Imo this became one of the most badass TH-cam ads ever
@@deathhulk8860haven't saw any ads here since last year bc I'm using YT Revanced. any sponsor part of the video will get skipped too with ease 😂
Just use youtube revanced, blocks all ads and sponsored segments automatically
That's why they need adverts, for the F-35
Couple corrections here:
1. Sherman’s were not obsolete as revisionist history makes them out to be. They were less powerful, but more than capable to penetrate the armor of a Tiger or even Panther V by 1944. it does ultimately depend on the variant though. The early Sherman’s were excellent in North Africa, but were very much outclassed by the Tigers at this time. Thankfully very few Tigers were in Africa or the western front in general.
2. The Allied Air Force was legit superior, however, they very seldom ever hit tanks due to the small size (compared to the fast speed the planes approach in). Instead, the Allied air forces focused more heavily on wiping out reinforcing tanks still on the railway or hampering German logistics entirely. The P-47 was amazing with this! The Mosquitoes were also excellent in the African theatre.
Correction on #2:
You meant the RAF...
The Canadian and US Air Force actually employed Catalina planes and various liaison aircraft to serve as antitank gunships, with the notable example used by Bazooka Charlie.
@@tedhubertcrusio372 I don't get what anything you just said has to do with only the RAF. They mentioned allies collectively and included both a British and US aircraft as an example.
The P-47 was a US built aircraft with ground-attack capability that saw significant use in the European theater. The Catalina was a US built seaplane with reconnaissance and anti-submarine capabilities. It wasn't used to destroy tanks.
@@aspookyscaryskeleton1474 Mosquitos were primarily fast-bombers so they're sort of irrelevant. It'd be like bringing up B-17s in a discussion about the Battle for London, only relevance coming from the fact they are planes
Not true
@@GlobnarTheGreen sources?
When the driver quits you must improvise -commander hanz -
Peak German technology
Hans, not Hanz.
It’s a German accent version of Hans
This video more addresses the purpose and use of panther turret bunkers and less the life inside one of these.
Sure there are some beds that can fold up, there's a stove, it's probably cramped though there's some storage space and an escape way. You get into combat like you're suppose to.
But what of the actual life inside one of these things? What shifts do the soldiers take, do they sit and guard an area inside the bunker or is there an outside area they chill at with other crews until the enemy is spotted and then run to their bunker? What's the food and water situation? How do they communicate to those outside of the bunker, whether directly outside or distant? Toilets? From morning to night, what do they do?
yes and the ad transition was jarring
Hey simple history can you do a cross section of the ratte tank ?
Ratte never existed so it would have to be fanmade.
Yah but simple history made a video about the ratte tank
Yes, but there are a few pieces here, such as a lab,a room that is held two motorbikes, and, of course , barracks
Oh and the fuhrer bunker. I'd really like to see a video about its design.
The dot at the end of "Ausf." indicates that this is an abbreviation. In verbal communication the word is spoken completely: "Ausführung" (Roughly "implementation", "model" or a bit more remote "variant")
Mk. (Mark)
Thanks for all the content. Truly good stuff ❤
interestingly there seems to be an opportunity that was overlooked:
the thickness of a tanks armour was limited by weight constraints, which in turn come from the mobility requirements of a tank
a stationary tank turret is not mobile, the weight rests on an immobile under-construction.
it would have been possible to up-armour such turrets. a lot.
that sort of defeats the point then
@@ASlickNamedPimpback you could still build them quickly, and add on armour plates later, when you have them.
@@ulrichkalber9039 precious metal and time that could have been put somewhere else
@@ASlickNamedPimpbackNot really, by this stage production was in shambles and destroyed tanks were everywhere, it would not have been hard to cut out armor from destroyed tanks and put it on the turret via welding or slotting.
@@NIGHTDREADED if you have a destroyed tank, chances are it was destroyed by the someone. By this stage in the war, Germany was in full backpedal, so that someone would already be in their way of getting to the tank.
Thank you for all the great videos
Little correction , no Panther had 80mm side armour . 60mm was max with the new Schmalturm .
And we in Austria build these bunkers along the Danube river in the I believe 1960's , with Centurion turrets . You can still find them today in the woods .
Just wanted to say, at 3:45 with the mesh over the barrel being gone after it fired is a nice touch
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Wonderful animations! I was sceptical when I clicked the link but the information was exceeded my expectations! (would have loved some references though) I do think you missed out by not pointing out the pre ww1 Fahrpanzer mobile armoured turrets which were likely the inspiration for using tank turrets this way.
I knew simplehistory would blow up it's come a long way and still getting more subscribers you will get there because a lot of people love watching videos of old and new history of war and I love this stuff keep it coming
6:55 reminded me a certain movie scene
Could you do a video like the panther one you did but a king tiger?
Imagine being a panther turret in a factory excited to venture through eastern Europe just to be a gun dug halfway into the ground
Simple History clearly ordered those Vomlets as a terror attack on Oversimplified's Birthday by swapping all of the chili mac, beef stew and buffalo chicken with this crime against humanity. Don't worry, he was generous enough to leave some "milk" from Mongolia.
This is interesting stuff!
I'm surprised this isn't depicted in movies.
Fixed installations might make sense if they had interlocking fields of fire and no way for the enemy to outflank or overrun (including with airborne troops) but that is RARELY IF EVER the case.
It was a desperate move when modern tanks, or clever reuse of obsolete ones, that's about it
Yeah, static defenses of all kinds are in fact 100% ineffective because no defensive line can circumfere the whole earth.
@@Toenism The static defences used by Ukraine and Russia seem to be working quite well.
@@mikebikekite1 Sorry it was meant as a sarcastic comment towards Scoutsniper3124
Love the cross-section videos🔥
I'd love to just be able to phase around like the 3 eyed raven and watch moments from history - I'd just go and watch conversations had in these bunkers, and of course, I'd witness the more important and astounding historical events throughout history, as well.. but to be able to just sit and watch the men in these otherworldly positions would be amazing. To just live vicariously through their most important times with no risk to you, watching real life like a show.. I hope they have a thing for that in the afterlife. Lol
_As a small addition. "Ausf." is not a spoken German word. It is the abbreviation for the German word "Ausführung" and in this context means something like model or version._
_Example:_
German: Panther Turm Ausführung D
English: Panther Model D Turret
Speaking of 75mm. There was a video here on You Tube that stated US soldiers preferred the 75 over larger guns.
Tests showed that for some reason 75s created more shrapnel that other size guns.
It went on to state that on the Western front the allies didn't deal with near the volume of tanks that the Soviets encountered but had to deal with more foot soldiers.
The wide spread of the 75 shrapnel helped in that.
This is sadly entierly made up by people on Reddit.
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time for a rematch in Comand and Conquer Generals Zero Hour
As far as I know those type of turrets were typically used to slow down enemy advancement and got evacuated after 5-6 shots since they becomes too vulnerable when its position got discovered while normal artillery could just relocate itself on the battlefield.
Cross section is my favorite series on here tbh
We had a defensive line of tank turret sunk into the ground, Italy at yugoslavian border at least until end '80s, when I was into the army. Fanteria D'Arresto took care of It.
I don't know if It Is still there and still operative.
Amazing, I never knew the the NOD defense turret was based on a real thing.
They should have welded extra armor onto the turret since weight didn't matter for mobility
When you need subtitels to understand the german names, as a german
Sorry that I wasn't able to perfectly speak German for you.
Subtitles
@@chriskane1The first variant was indeed very hard to understand, that being said 2 and 3 was fine and I enjoyed the accent. 😊
You probably speak better English than most of us natives... 😂
love the cross section vids
genius like idea of the simplicity
This and with Flank towers can give giant headaches to the allies.
They show pictures of one of these turrets in Berlin streets during the final battle. It has loads of spent tank rounds around it. I believe it fired all its ammunition. Must have been extremely difficult to knock this one out.
Didnt they already have an episode on this or is it a remake?
Saw in the last minute battles a more late german produced weapon, i think thats a reference to their other video.
I like how at 2:21 the house heavily resembles the one in family guy
Nice little Easter egg adding the family guy house during the ad read
Back in the 90s I met an old German Tanker in Canada. I asked him how he survived, and he replied that he was the Driver for an Ostwall Panther Turm - now I know ;)
Hello my Simple History friend I have a question. What is the Sniper using in 7:08 I keep wondering what that is can you tell me please.
PTRD-41
Good job bro
Now imagine setting up a bunker with those supposed super tanks and crazy tank designs.
wonder if these were the inspiration to command & conquers nod gun turrets
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6:56 saving private ryan moment 😂
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Real ones will know that this wasn’t the first video about tank turrets mounted in the ground. 🔥🔥
Would there be communication links and an overall commander when there are multiple turret bunkers? What about supporting infantry?
For the second part of Your question I can answer being into italian army service mid '80s.
We had a zone very close to yugoslavian border and we put tank turrets sunk in the ground .
They were under control of the Fanteria D'Arresto, First line defensive system.
We at Fanteria Meccanizzata were a very little behind with our M113 Vtc armoured troops transport light tanks. And in the same zones were parachute troups.
Hope It helps
@@littlebritain64 thank you for that.
In Poland there is one of the few, or even the only, specimen of this type of panther as an exhibit.
During desert storm, the Iraqi forces entrenched their tanks to use them as defensive positions (similar to the video, tho by half burying some of their tanks) and it did NOT go well for them. They became sitting ducks to a modern military. Plus, i think with things like drone warfare, the concept of a large stationary defensive box actually can backfire if they arent well enough protected by other forces. See previous Desert Storm : their tanks werent all that well protected even in the half burried 'tank foxholes' even tho the idea in concept was sound. (tho i guess you can argue that not only were their tanks, tactics, but just everything overall was outdated for them so the idea itself could still be practical if done right.) idk if this concept has been used at all in any current modern ongoing wars.
"Turm" translates to "turret" when referring to tanks. For castles it does translate to "tower".
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I understand where your coming from but ads is probably how he makes half his money as to where youtube makes money selling premium
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@@jarreddobbs6800remember when simple history was paywalling animated gore?
The sponsor will have paid a premium fee to place the ad in the middle. That is good though cause it supports the video maker more, meaning they can afford to put more effort into the video
it is justified. esp for our goat simple history
The turret armor is kind of useless (except the front) because once they can hit the rear turret then you already lose. It's faster and cheaper to use those metals to build more field cannon with wheels and front armor.
The turrets were used for defensive bunkers and taken off inoperable tanks not manufactured for this purpose and are not not field cannons first of all. They also had field cannons in the form of the 88mm
Well it means that the turret is resistant to infantry flaking efforts because all directions are bulletproof. Obviously interms of resource efficiency field cannons are better but these definitely had a role.
Can you make of the kanonenvogel
Can you make a video on what the British called Lobster pots that were located in the English Channel???
Those are fare the most reliable Panthers that I found after researching WW2
The absolute first time I’ve seen this as a primary topic! Great job.
The great thing about armored vehicles is their mobility. Fire. Scoot. Set up again. Fire.
These permanent turrets had the element of surprise the first shot.
The Panther gun was a very good tank killer. Against everything else it was mediocre.
pretty sure it would kill a guy too if u hit him
FYI: "Ausf." is short for "Ausführung" which just means "variant"
Panther Bunker : for those who never passed the driver license for the tanks
15% of this video is a commercial.
So what
The Panther gun and the Sherman gun WERE NOT THE SAME!
Well, you're a much smaller target in a Panther Turret. Though the lack of mobility makes them vulnerable to infantry with explosives that they can plant or toss onto the turret.
Well, France wasn't the only country that was using tanks such as Renault light tanks. Also Yugoslavia used these tanks as well. Maybe some of these Yugoslav tanks, were captured by Germans. Of course this is just a guessing (but who am I to judge that). But I do know when Germany occupied Yugoslavia in WWII, they captured Yugoslav plane such as Icarus IK-3 Rogožarski.
I have also heard that there were the flak turrets as well. They were used as an anti-aircraft defense against bombings. Also I have heard that they were used as a shelters where civilians took shelter when there were sounded air raid siren. They were also made out of concrete, and by external appearance, they looked like medieval castles.
german here the Ausf. A and Ausf. D stands for Ausführung - meaning version A or Version D. the "Ausf." would just be used as a shortform in written form.
2:39 a cellphone with notch and dynamic island at the same time
Ostwallturm translates to East Wall Turret, not Tower. Turm means both Turret and Tower, yet in this context it translates to turret, same as in tank turret. In addition, it is clear from looks that its not a tower, which requires considerable height.
i was under the impression all german tanks had the 88mm round, i guess that was only the tiger tanks?
Correct
Always wondered why, with the mass limitations of the chassis suspension no longer there, these turrets weren't heavily uparmored once emplaced. Why just leave them with the regular armor.
0:51
Made in considerable "mumbers"? 😂
Reminds me of how we used warthogs and scorpions in Halo 3 and Reach as turrets by placing objects around them so they couldn't move.
hi there cool video but Panther Ausf. A and B stand for Ausführung should be equal to Version
I want to see a cross section of the char b1
did any survive? are there any still existing?
I always wondered why its called *Panther*-Wotan Line.
Did they have SPAA tank turrets? Or Tank destroyers?
Todays my birthday and im watching this masterpiece 🎉
The transmission wouldn't break down and Panther wouldn't run out of fuel, if your tank is just a turret in the ground!
I'm thinking a Similar idea of a military defensive Turret line where every other turret has a tank gun, or turret with Artillery gun on Ukraines Eastern flank. It might be Helpful against Russia. They use Radios to keep in touch, and if an Artillery shot is More needed than a tank shot one, then one would be in place to be Called upon. Ukraine has a number of old Soviet era stocks to pull from to use. Be similar to the maginot line, but you beef it by also using Mines, and a Personnel Trench, movable Artillery, dragons teeth, and concertina wire.
sadly no, a stationary target is a dead traget in modern warfare with drones and precision strike ammunition and even lacking that the russians have no problem throwing 100+ dumb shells at a target only 1 has to hit.
Can you talk about the Anzac forces
Please I like never her anything about them
Bro tryna low key flex with his “net worth” in that ad read
Winston Churchill: I was saving the planet from an Axis of Darkness, while you were back home opening National Parks! Yes!
Theodore Roosevelt: You should be ashamed of your military honor!
That'd be fun to live in one of those.
Das wurde nie im großen Stil gebaut. Da man gerade in der Frühphase des zweiten Weltkrieg erkannte das Mobilität das A und O ist und starre Geschützstellungen nicht viel bringen.
Damn simple history
Your other vids arent as popular as this one with 200k views
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9:01 Just build some AA Turrets when they start spamming air. Seen them on the 1942 arcade game
why didn't they just completely attach the covering to the turret? wouldn't that ensure that the covers don't get pushed aside when it turns?
the should be a farly intackt panzer 4 turret here in norway
Home Sweet Home, looks cosy...
the Czechoslovaks were the first to build it on the border fortifications
Cant wait for the far future when we'll build ourselves siege tanks just like from starcraft that doubles as a tank and artillery.
Tank-turreted bunkers, and even just the practice of literally burying the hull of a tank to leave only its turret exposed in a defensive position, remained quite popular throughout the Cold War, as all the many benefits it offers remained valuable, especially in the defense of less wealthy nations.
Only with the development of highly advanced fire control systems and precision munitions in the 1980s did the tank-turret bunker start to become truly obsolete, as modern tanks like the Leopard 2 and Abrams were able to make highly accurate hits at immense distances, even when on the move, and GPS-guided artillery and laser-guided bombs simply made stationary targets too vulnerable.
This was proven in the 1991 Gulf War where Iraqi T-55 and T-72 tanks were buried in the desert to defend against American M1 Abrams tanks, but were simply picked off one by one as the Abrams' far superior fire control systems allowed them to outrange the Soviet-built ones of the defenders, even when firing at small and concealed targets while themselves on the move. Today, with the proliferation of drones in warfare, the idea of sitting in a tank that can't actually leave once it is spotted is probably not a very appealing prospect.
Chris Kane sounds like David hayter
Ausf. Means Ausführung so like its called Panzerkampfwagen V "Panther" Ausführung D