Six Major Things Going On in Sports With Bill Simmons | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons cracks open a Michelob ULTRA six-pack and talks about six major things going on in sports.
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The 2009 Pau vs Kobe comment had me giving an audible "WTF?"... You got me good, Simmons!
Pau outplayed Kobe in the 2010 Finals though, coming from a Lakers fan that watched 95% of their games that year, the strength of the team was the size and rebounding and depth with the big men more than Kobe. Kobe stans crying, shut up.
Content like this shows why no one is better than Simmons at what he does.
This is why Bill is 👑 at the Pod game! ❤
Bill great take on the Caitlin media circus. One of your best takes in awhile.
Anyone else want a Michelob Ultra for some strange reason?
Michelob Ultra tastes like piss.
I hate it even more now.
sparkling water
@@nickbarcheck1019 you taste a lot of piss?
Pass
Please could you put the Michelob Ultra a *bit closer* to the camera
With Caitlyn Clark, this is actually the first time the media is truly treating the WNBA equally to the NBA because they bringing all the BS we hate about NBA media into the WNBA finally lol.
This is what true equality looks like lol
Essentially 😂
Love your podcast. Loved the one with your Dad after game 1.
Lol Bill Simmons with a soccer take. Love it. We just tied with Brasil 1-1. What's the take now, is soccer on the rise again?
08 Celtics: the defensive identity was what KG brought to the team.
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Bill… as someone from England, I think you underestimate how hard it is for people to get into the PL 😂
Or any top level European league 😂
I think you misunderstand hyperbolic examples
@@Fent-or maybe bill just didn’t know what he’s talking about lmao
The soccer take is perfect.
Anthony Davis was on the 2012 men's olympic team and he wasn't even in the league yet. He was a budding star fresh from college who would: a. benefit from the international experience as he was seen as a possible future anchor for the program and b. bring some extra eyes to the team that was already loaded with star power in the form of Kobe, Lebron, KD, etc. He was not one of the best players in the league, at least not at that moment. He was there so that the networks could capitalize on the recent buzz his run in the NCAA tournament brought and also to groom him for future outings. With all of that being said you mean to tell me that Caitlin Clark, arguably the most prominent name in women's basketball right now, the main reason the WNBA has garnered any sort of attention for the past 25 years, and a possible future anchor for Team USA doesn't deserve a roster spot but Ms "I was traded for a war criminal, I'm so empowered" does? What a clown show
Watching Bill learn what intersectionality is in real time is fun
Bill dgaf thankfully
In order to be a good soccer player you would have to train from like age 3 onwards lol
Is that beer warm
white racism does not equal reverse racism. it's just racism.
The soccer thing at the 10min mark. The key thing is that there are only a hundred spots for RB at NFL. So, you could invest all your athletic career at RB, be the 100th best and not make a living for it. But if you are the 100th best at soccer, you at least guarantee a starter spot at MLS. The problem is that very rare for players start training late at soccer and becoming pro. Its very hard to switch.
I liked this idea more when you pitched to Handball at Olympics. I still dont understand how US doesnt have a great Handball program. Is just like, running while dribbling and jumping and trowing!
Kids cannot take up soccer in high school and expect to go very far. It has to start a lot younger than that. The best players are on the books at big clubs at 13-14.
And kids that age shouldn’t be fixated on how much money they might make in 10 years because most of them, even the 5* recruits, will not make it.
And it’s especially hard to go far in sports if you’re not passionate about it. So better to stick with the sport you like the most.
There’s way more spots in soccer lineups across leagues throughout the world, but infinitely more competition for those places.
Running backs don't have soccer geometry, Bill is drunk on Michelob.
Michelob Bill is in the building!
I wonder what Body Language Doctor Bill thinks of Michelob Bill? Conspiracy Bill too.
The Caitlin Clark saga only proves that women love toxicity. The main shows they watch are Real Housewives type “reality tv”.
I think this is the way the WNBA wants to market the league to get women interested.
My thing is that, it all goes down the drain once Caitlin gets over it all and either goes to Europe or back to Iowa City to coach.
If Dallas comes back and beats Boston, Bill is going to be the saddest man in America! Maybe his Dad will be second saddest! 😅
But that's not going to happen because Kyrie is too terrible
I would honestly be in the running for top 5.
He will have to attend game 7 and make a new “Sad Bill” meme!😂
@@michaelcorcoran876820pts at half
Won't have to worry about that.
Finally someone in media that has a sound take on the Caitlin Clark saga. The media is going for flashy headlines and flashy takes to get clicks.
Nobody cares about women's basketball or Caitlin Clark.
@@nickbarcheck1019you cared to comment tho 🤷♂️
@@michaelknowlton1231 Huh?
@@nickbarcheck1019 clearly people do. you meant to say that YOU don't care about women's basketball. which you're allowed to, but don't act like everyone feels the same.
@@willfulton9276 Look at the ratings for last year's WNBA Finals. Less than a million people watched each game. Regular season baseball and hockey do better than that. Women's basketball is irrelevant and meaningless.
Pierce was not better than Kobe. Boston was just stacked. Jesus bill
didn’t sound at all like that’s what he was implying, unless you’re talking about that Finals series alone
Pierce isn't better than Kobe, but he was close. Dude was the primary defender for both Kobe and LeBron while being the best scorer on his team and beat them.
@@gofish7388 Boston played team defense led by KG their best player and best defender
@@cptsketch13 KG was a PF/C. Pierce was a wing.
@@gofish7388 KG was still their best player and again they played team defense. He was also able to guard most positions. Pierce was good but he wasn't even the best player on the team
The tebow effect? Did Tebow get drafted #1 overall?
For 25 years. all i heard from WNBA defenders is that they wished more people would watch their games, and how they are underpaid. Now they have a player that is drawing attendance figures the league has never seen. And they are not promoting that player? Instead they are psychoanalyzing why those new fans are watching it? Race? Sexuality? Who cares! You finally got eyeballs on your league and you continue to play the victim card.
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Caitlin not getting picked for the US team reminds me of an 18 year old Neymar Jr. not getting to play for Brazil in the 2010 World Cup. Carlos winning his third Grand Slam by the age of 21 is extremely impressive. Let's not forget that Djokovic won his first slam at age twenty and it took him over three years to win his second Grand Slam.
Exactly. This kind of thing happens to phenoms every now and then.
Is it the right move to leave Clark off? Right now yes. Will it stunt the pop culture momentum womens basketball has right now? Also yes.
Hopefully she uses this as motivation to try and become great
I was under the impression it's only called grand slam if you win all 4 majors in the same season
@@sammyttheg412 That's a calendar Grand Slam. A career Grand Slam is someone winning all four majors in their career. I always call the four majors Grand slams, but I might be wrong.
@Weaponator18 You can also make a case for leaving Taurasi of the team. In february team USA played a, for an already qualified USA, meaningless qualifier against Belgium, but still. They barely won on the last play with a little help from the refs AND by benching Taurasi in the 4th quarter. She was a liability on defence and Plum and Ionescu had to pick up the pieces again and again.
The Hurley story is maybe the clearest b.s story I've seen in a long time. It only came out AFTER shams reported about j.j, from the guy who is super close to the hurleys and the Lakers offer was hilariously low to try and drive j.j down. We all see through it.
We are definitely not further away from soccer being popular. It is consistently growing (my opinion is completely anecdotal lol)
The best player conversation started with Shaq and Kobe
Wade was clearly the heat best player starting in 05..we can argue exactly when but it was clear by the start of the 05-06 season he was the best guy...you acting like wade was avg. 18 and 4...he was 27 5.5 and 6.5 a night with 2.3 steals a block
Shaq began to really fall off in 03. These media guys have always massaged his ego way too much.
04-05 is kinda debatable, 05-06, Wade was clearly better.
@@keenannorris3309Shaq was still pretty darn good in 04-05, but certainly declined from earlier in the 2000’s. In 05-06, Shaq started to feel the effects of injuries.
In 05-06, was Yao Ming still healthy?
@@fortynights1513 at the START....he was 22/10.....by the '05 playoffs it was Wade....by FAR.
@@twilitezn that is what I mean...in the 05 playoffs wade was the go to guy...look at his stats vs. the nets and wiz
Can't wait for the bill victory laps i thought they would win but i didnt think a sweep was in play..
can we get 2 bottles in the frame for next video? maybe 3?
Phil Foden just won player of the year in Premier League and makes like $11-12 million per season and just signed a new deal
That is because Prem operates more like NBA on salaries. They get an average and all players are great players already. If he was in PSG or Real he would have make much more.
But I disagree on switching to football late. It is not that easy to make the adjustments. The required skill is insanely underrated imo.
His career will be at least 10 years longer than the average NFL player
There is no such thing as reverse racism. It's just racism.
After the Kendrick Lamar vs Drake rap beef got so much social media attention everyone tried to play off it by manifesting beef for views, there was Austin Rivers vs the NFL, Shannon Sharpe vs Shaq, now people are piggybacking off Caitlin Clark's popularity to manifest their own beef to get views. 2024 is the Summer of Beef.
Ah man, great short vid but when I saw the title I thought it was going to be a cross over with Jason and Shea. Can't help but be a little disappointed it's not.
cameron brink on an olympic team is nasty work 😭
Context
I know Bill is slowing down when he is putting down his push for Sports Czar. I always saw it for him by 2028
What kind of beer is that? Looks good, but maybe if it was closer I could read the label.
The Tim Tebow comparison is apt, except CC will probably be a legit star in the league instead of playing minor league baseball.
Did bill choose pick 6 then get a beer to sponsor or did Michelob sponsor and he chose 6 topics
Those kids college fees aren’t going to pay themselves
Bill just casually saying you HAVE to have 42 year old dinosaur Diana Taurasi on the Olympic team. Dude she’s almost old enough for AARP why is it okay to put her on the team just so she can selfishly have a gold medal record, but not okay to put Caitlin on the team to I don’t know….boost ratings and actually grow your sport??????
The whole world can see Jaylen Brown is the Celtics best player… it’s only stubborn Celtics fans hanging on to the narrative that Tatum is a star & their best player. Guess what Celtics fans.. when Tatum was your best player your team was habitual chokers… now that Brown is your best player you’re winning a championship… accept it JB > JT
two times in four championships that the jrue holiday trade was the influencing factor in a chip. dude wins 2x, guaranteed HOF. no conversation. obviously theres a convo now
89 pistons get too much credit for their defense when really they were a good offense with many big front line pf wise especially and some sg depth...they went true 9 deep in the playoffs and the only weakness was not having a true backup point guard...their 9th man scoring wise was usually edwards some games rodman or some times mahorn and occasionally salley...
They didn't pick all the best players. Grinder hasn't been great in years... And is a domestic abuser. Turasi is worse than Clark across the board other than scoring.3 points per game. Arike
Ogunbowale is the 2nd leading scorer in the league, not super efficient but still, and is averaging over 3 steals a game.
Clark is carrying a heavy load for team that was one of the worst teams in n WNBA history last year. They have usually had college player or rook every Olympics. Clark is so good, she's generating more interest than the NBA Fnals. Let's not be stupid. She's the most important athlete on the planet right now.
And about growing the game. They're marketing for the team is literally "Its not a moment, it's a movent" for this Olympics. That sounds like trying promote the future to anyone with a brain, and a shot at Clark when you remember all the talk about this spring being the moment women's basketball has been waiting for.
LOL @ Michelob ultra
I’m heavy on the soccer take I agree totally and football is my fave sport no debate but it makes no sense to play on the nfl I told my son if he gonna play he is gonna be a punter or a kicker if not soccer or tennis
There is no such thing as "reverse racism." It's racism or it's not.
yep. you are correct.
Were people really questioning who was the best player on the 06 heat heading to the finals? Going into the first round of the playoffs maybe but theres no way in hell anyone was questioning if wade was the best player by the time they got to the finals
This celtics run feels very pistons 1989 like...I think that is the best comp cause they were led by a clear 4 guys on offense...79 sonics were a little bit less star heavy...
79 Sonics were a pretty good team. Gets overlooked because it happened in the 70’s (which is overshadowed as an era in NBA history because of everything afterwards) and of course the Sonics don’t exist anymore.
@@fortynights1513I know I just mean dj sikma gus shelton johnson are not big names like say tatum brown jrue porzingis horford white or thomas dumars aguirre rodman vinnie mahorn and laimbeer..dj sorta became a big name in boston same for johnson with the bucks later sikma as well later after the title...gus fell off quick...
bill did the same with newton lol
Hamilton was the 2004 pistons best offensive player billups was the leader wallace was their defense rebounder...sheed brought them the attitude prince was a swiss army knife
And Milicic was nicknamed the Human Victory Cigar.
Side note: Could Wade have been a good pick for the team they had?
@@fortynights1513well yes but they didn't have sheed at the time so they might have taken melo cause rookie prince felt like a 6th man on a title team... or they take bosh...but he was a rookie project...then they never get sheed or win imo... they chose to let young okur and mike go the next off season for some reason but kept old elden and bum darvin bum darko and older hunter...wade would of made them contenders without sheed for years to come...a mj bulls type dynasty with sheed for like 6 years...we talking 5 titles...they gotta keep okur and mike doe over ham and elden..also if they take melo they probably win the 06 title without sheed and the 05 06 titles with sheed melo...
The running back / soccer take doesn’t work because ~14 is WAY too late to become a PL-caliber player. Would realistically need to do it at ~8 at the absolute latest.
11 million a year is like a top 50 player in soccer lol
Jeannie Buss has run the Lakers into the ground.
Soccer's the sport of the future? I thought Lloyd Dobler said it was kickboxing. Is that not the case?
clark is better than plum. gray and taurassi...
I guarantee it matters to Jayson and Jaylen whether they admit that or not
Their bank accounts don't care
To me, strictly for the Olympics, it should only be about putting the best team on there. I get the attention and growing the game, I don't disagree with the sentiment at all as that argument is correct, but not everything in the world needs to be focused on money, advertising, views, and attention. It's okay if we have one avenue in sports every fours years where we simply focus on putting the best of the best out there, figure out the best way to market it, and the views are still going to be there to some extent because it's the Olympics. Some of the women on the Olympics team do have a international following, I don't think Americans understand some viewers from other countries will be turning in. Will it hurt the WNBA some? Anyone who says yes or no doesn't actually know that. Clark isn't retiring, she's still going to be in the WNBA, if she develops into a great player still making those splash plays then the league will grow, especially if there are some great rivals along the way who help elevate the league as well. Short term will it hurt? Probably but again, not everything in life needs to be about the short term. After the Olympics are over Clark will still be a big time name and hopefully she can stay healthy, continue to grow, becomes great, and come 2028 the story line of her being in the Olympics still has the potential to be huge.
Please stop with the Caitlin Clark furor. Talk about a media creation.......
When Tatum is doing good it’s Tatum’s team. When Tatum is doing bad the identity of the team is Jalen and Tatum… odd
For the algo
The Tim Tebow analogy Bill used easily explains the Colin Kaepernick situation but Bill wouldn’t dare go there.
That's definitely a plausible explanation, but he alleges there was collusion which to me would also make sense. The NFL settled his court case so we'll never know tho.
I have no idea why they put that Griner dude on the team.
Now jayson tatum not playing well best player dont matter
having the beer right there in the picture? cmonnnn you're like the NBA courts now and the NHL crosscheck boards with the subliminal message drinkkkkkkkkkk alcohooooollllllll (which is technically poison by the way)
Imagine an American Ronaldinho that inspired the youth to pickup some 3/4 soccer pants and tear it up on the pitch with style and humor. Patrice O'neal had a funny rant about why soccer stinks and Americans will never like it.
the who’s the best player thing is a phenomenon that began recently in the social media era where people started solely being fans of players instead of teams. “who’s team is it?” “who’s their best player?” “such and such carried” is what basically began with the 17 warriors and has been a thing for every team with more than one good/popular player on it ever since. It’s just how young people view sports now unfortunately
I almost turned off and unsubscribed after that 2009 comment 😂
That US Soccer Take needs to be implemented ASAP. RBs, WRs, and DBs could all convert over to soccer and make way more money than in the NFL.
Here's some NBA blasphemy: if you look at win shares, win shares per 48, PER, and those playoffs/finals match ups there's an argument Pau Gasol is the MVP/MIP of the 09' and 10' Lakers. Dude had peak Dwight and the Celtics bigs to deal with. Kobe without a top 5 big was a just a volume shooter on mid 40s win teams. Shout out Perk, we would have won if he stayed healthy in 10'.
Kobe without a top five big did better than a lot of players, but he definitely needed Pao to win it all later in his career.
Clark could always go play for Russia like Beck Hammond did.
Hell no go play in a country that’s an ally to the West, not an enemy. You might as well go play in North Korea if you’re gonna play in Russia.
Jaylen and Jason have NOT changed or grown that much. What has changed is the SUBTRACTION of Marcus Smart. He was a TERRIBLE decision maker in crunch time.Given a choice, Dru will always make the right play and the right decision, kinda like the opposite of Marcus.
.This Boston team is like the 1979 sonics, and the 2004 pistons as far as a championship winning team, with no unquestioned superstar/ #1 guy.
.I disagree with Bill. Isiah was absolutely the superstar/#1 on that 89 Pistons team(and 90) and Joe Dumars was the classic #2.
. I think Paul Pierce was the best player on that 08 Celtics team. Kevin Garnett you could say was the most important player. The Bill Russell of the team. But I don’t think either Kevin Garnett or Ray Allen at that point in there careers could’ve went toe to toe with young LeBron, the way prime Pierce was able to in that game 7 of the ECSF
. If Caitlin Clark had come on the scene 30/40 years ago, she would be one of the most beloved and transcendent athletes in the world. She would be what Tiger Woods was when he took over golf or what Mike Tyson was in the first 5 years of his professional career. But because America became the most identity divisive place on earth, she’s become the most polarizing athlete in the world 😐
US soccer needs to get rid of the pay to play model. A lot of potential talent is lost due to cost
I only clicked this cause Caitlin Clark was in the title
I love Bill but the 04 Pistons argument doesn’t really here. That team didn’t have a guy who’s considered by most a top 6 player in the league. They also weren’t going to give max contract that player literally a month later. If Tatum is going receive praise about how good he’s been and how great he is, he also gotta receive criticism for shooting under 40% from the floor. Before the finals it was all about how good Tatum is and how he’s All- NBA First Team, now it’s all about team basketball and it doesn’t matter who the best player is. C’mon!
I have the impression that Bill does not really know the salaries in soccer. To make 20 million a year you have to be like a top 10 player in the world, only about 5 players not playing in Saudie Arabia make significantly more. American football is only played in one country, and soccer it is the biggest sport in about 175 countries. So the chances of becoming a top Football player are about 20 times as high as they are becoming a top soccer player. Not to mention the fact that the qualities that make you a good running back are not necessarily the qualities that make you a good soccer player. A lot of the best soccer players in the world are not supreme athletes.
The reality is that if soccer is not a top tier sports for young age groups it is impossible to get to the top as a nation. You might luck into some supreme talents and a golden generation that gets some result, but it will never be sustainable. Academies are great, but every country in the world has long established soccer academies, and almost all boys in those countries play soccer at some level from a very young age. That is also the reason that the US soccer women are in fact very competitive.
its gonna be funny when juju watkins is picked for the olympic team in four years lol
I check Clark's stats every now and then, to see how she's doing. Kind of interested to see if the hype is realized.
It's a nice sideshow for now. But, I'm skeptical it will remain anything more than that.
Tried watching one of the games for the first time in years (15?) and it was still very boring.
Even though I sometime check her stats. I wouldn't bother if media, podcasts, etc wouldn't keep bringing her name up & making stories.
I don't think she should have made the team. Girl is turnover prone. Needs to become a better ball handler if she's gonna get the spot. She's only recently started scoring more efficiently as well.
...in US sports....
Terrible take. The Celtics identity… the reason they won… their TLDR, is not the Js. Not even close. Tatum is a well below average championship #1 the worst #1 in the past 10 years. The third worst in the three point era. Brown is an average/slightly below average championship #2.
The reason they won is that they have the best #4-#6 ever.
Brink over angel crazy
Wow, a homer Celtics take followed by one of the dumbest takes on the TNT/NBA situation that I have heard up to this point. Nice job Bill! Two for two so far! God, I used to read your column religiously. You were so much better at writing your column than you are at the idiotic stuff you do these days. You never should have stopped writing. That was what you were good at. The way you operate now is unbearable and the reason why you have nowhere near the fans that you used to have. I’m sure you have way more money now but at least you were a valued member of the sports media back then.
Bet Bill didn't even mention baseball because he's a hack whose a sellout to the NBA.
Corpo shill.
Boston loses by 38....crickets. Having that down Doc on vas a disgrace he is now a poor mans Cowherd
Like Horse Wind and Cow Herd.
Braids are jealous of Becky with the good hair.
jfc
😅😅 nah
The real mistake is allowing pros to play in the Olympics and having to suffer through the marketing and puff pieces where the pros pretend to care. Makes those sports so uninteresting - bball, tennis, golf, whatever. Does anyone watch the Olympics live anymore? ✌️🪷🏀