The fact that people are still torn over if they are on either Syanna's or Dettlaff's "side" just confirms how brilliantly complex these characters are. The story and writing for this game is so amazing!
The ending I ended up getting on my first playthrough was the one where Syanna dies and Dettlaff could live by complete accident, when I was given the choice to spare him or kill him, I sat on that screen for at least 15 minutes to eventually just put the controller down to think about it. The point is I found this scene so powerful that for the first time in any game ever it made me walk away to actually think about it. I decided to kill him because of what he did and to put him out of his misery. Basically I loved the writing of blood and wine because of this dilemma
Many of us have replayed the game and still have to give the decision pause. I think Detlaff was a dangerous beast but without much reason and Syanna was a man made monster made by her family and those around her. People needed to stop dying but its hard to have to put one or the other's head on the chopping block. Either way, CDPR made us feel lament and kind of dirty regardless of which route we took. And THAT'S excellent complex writing.
For those of you curious, this is an unofficial track on the OST, It’s actually a combination of two “layers” The first part is called “Toussaint - Dialogue music shared - sad harp mix” The other is called “Toussaint - Dialogue music shared - sad”
Ur a legend for bringing it back. Brings too much nostalgia. Like u can feel the atmosphere of Toussaint, beautiful and fresh but deeply corrupted to its core.
I know this is called Syanna's theme... but honestly, it could be used for Detlaff and Anna-Henrietta too. For whichever ending you choose... for atleast one of these three, sometimes everyone, their part in the story ends in tragedy. In my own playthrough, at first, I destroyed Detlaff but ended up with Syanna killing her sister and in turn dying herself. When I played through the game again, I got the ending where both Syanna and the Duchess lived, but Detlaff perished once again. And although I thought this to be the "best" ending... in the end I cannot say that Detlaff was a wholehearted monster. He -did- do monstrous things like the murders and siccing a horde of vampires onto an innocent city, but he was also a victim of Syanna's manipulation, so I can atleast understand where he came from. But yeah... a hundred percent good ending was never an option.
But Dettlaff ordered the other vampires to attack Beauclair just because Anna Henrietta was stupid and chose to sacrifice the whole town and not just hand over Syanna 🤷🏼♀️ that was immature and selfish. Dettlaff only wanted explanations, and it was the sisters who were able to prevent the massacre.
I was wondering where the other video went, glad to see it again. Have alot of experience with just this song. No matter how long it takes, Tw3 just always comes back with it's beauty. Each time I try to describe this game and everything about it, all that comes to mind is "Magic" And that's it, it's just magical... I miss the good old days of being literally obsessed with this game. Spending more time with it than sleeping. They were awful days, sure. But there's still beauty in it. Not surprised to be honest, not when it comes to this game. Long comment, but I hope someone feels the same as me. Oh well, love to ya!
I needed this, thank you. This heavenly piece of art doesn't show up on your recommendation section, people come here by choice. So again, thank you friend...
Finally I can understand a little about why this piece its so sad, if you listen Lacrimosa of Mozart, does the same thing with the chords, but in Syanna’s theme its slower, makes them sound like a sigh, 2 chords and then a pause, like u are taking air then letting the air out.
I'm so happy she's ok in my playthrough (never watched any guide, that moment when you realize that seemingly insignificant action saved her and went holy shit thank god I did that......, cd project you evil genius story teller)
I honestly felt bad for Detaff. He was manipulated in the most treacherous of ways. If only he had just left and not gone on a rampage. I hated that he died (usually)
@@SupersaiyanChristian That's the beauty of the Witcher Universe. Things are never are as they seem. Detlaff, a Higher Vampire deeply loved the illusion that was Rhena. His feelings turned into a weapon against Syanna's abusers, trying to get back at the home that had seen her as nothing more than a curse on the Duchy. Syanna and Detlaff were both responsible for the killings caused in Toussaint. Syanna employed a beast of incredible power, who's presence inspires vampiric invasions. Detlaff carried out the will without question, knowing he was in the wrong and cared little. Both Syanna and Detlaff are tragic characters who are victims in their own rights, but also victims who became monsters by the pain they endured. Syanna's story is beautiful in the way its presented. She endured pain and festered on it, wishing nothing more than to burn down the home that turned her away; when unknowingly... her little sister sought desperately to restore what was lost between them. Detlaff however, is the loser in this. No matter what, killing Syanna does not undo the crimes he commited; when he's presented that he could've sought help to recover his illusion of a lover. He is the example of how DANGEROUS it is for monsters and humans to be so romantically connected.
@@Polomance862 And it’s even more tragic that no matter who you save or let die, someone loses a person dear to them and much more. If Syanna were to die, Anarietta goes mad with despair and throws you in prison for your failure to save her. If Dettlaff were to die, you would maintain your honor at the expense of Regis’ status among his kin, unintentionally forcing him into exile. That, along with the last words of Dettlaff’s bio if he should die: “As he died, Dettlaff harbored no hard feelings for Regis, knowing that this was the best option for him. There was no longer anything in this world he wished to live for.”
I posted the first comment 5 years ago of the initial video . Now it's gone. Sad 😢. But the memories aren't . I used to sleep with that music back then...
I know she's the villain and that she is the Beast of Beauclair but it doesn't change the fact that i fell hard for her even if she's wrong i can't help but love her a lot, damn they know how write a character.
_Syanna: farewell, detlaff.._ *Detlaff: .. ..* _Syanna: thank you for letting me use you_ *Detlaff: i'm happy my powers helped you, Syanna* _Syanna: i had no choice.. i needed.._ *Detlaff: ..i understand* _Syanna: i am sorry_ *Detlaff: don't.. a vampire doesn't apologize for taking life blood from someone* _Syanna: ..so why should I have to?_ *Detlaff: i understand perfectly..why you did what you did* _Syanna: and you did it because you knew what i needed.._ *Detlaff: i helped you because no one else would have* _Syanna: ..no one else could have_ *Detlaff: you have your closure.. don't feel tied to a victim* _Syanna: Detlaff, I.._ *Detlaff: don't apologize, Syanna.. you are a predator* _Syanna: .. .._ *Detlaff: this is what you learned from me, my young disciple..* _Syanna: you.. Knew i would do this?_ *Detlaff: everyone does.. it is the cycle of grief and pain, that animates the Living* _Syanna: it is Life.. and Living.._ *Detlaff: like the pain of birth.. unavoidable*
The fact that people are still torn over if they are on either Syanna's or Dettlaff's "side" just confirms how brilliantly complex these characters are. The story and writing for this game is so amazing!
The ending I ended up getting on my first playthrough was the one where Syanna dies and Dettlaff could live by complete accident, when I was given the choice to spare him or kill him, I sat on that screen for at least 15 minutes to eventually just put the controller down to think about it. The point is I found this scene so powerful that for the first time in any game ever it made me walk away to actually think about it. I decided to kill him because of what he did and to put him out of his misery. Basically I loved the writing of blood and wine because of this dilemma
Many of us have replayed the game and still have to give the decision pause. I think Detlaff was a dangerous beast but without much reason and Syanna was a man made monster made by her family and those around her. People needed to stop dying but its hard to have to put one or the other's head on the chopping block. Either way, CDPR made us feel lament and kind of dirty regardless of which route we took. And THAT'S excellent complex writing.
“You really want a happy ending, don't you?”
“Yes dammit Syanna. I just played all three games and read the books back to back. Now don’t stab your sister this time.”
@@thomasalvarez6456 I was literally so mad when she did that whole murder her sister scene, I went through all that trouble for nothing HAHAHA
@@neko6656 ikr, that was my first ending. But I must say, still an amazing way to end a story. Next time I did it, I got the good one
@@neko6656 It forced me to replay half the storyline. Still fun.
But it was I, Dio!
For those of you curious, this is an unofficial track on the OST,
It’s actually a combination of two “layers”
The first part is called “Toussaint - Dialogue music shared - sad harp mix”
The other is called “Toussaint - Dialogue music shared - sad”
And all this, what did it bring you...? Rest in Piece.
"Dettlaff, please. All this...for one woman?"
"You understand nothing."
Ur a legend for bringing it back. Brings too much nostalgia. Like u can feel the atmosphere of Toussaint, beautiful and fresh but deeply corrupted to its core.
It's probably the music that makes me feel the most emotions, this game is such a masterpiece and will never stop to be.
I know the feeling
You can delete video from youtube, but you can't delete people passion about something beautiful. You have my thanks, friend.
Gra powstała 7 lat temu, a do dzisiaj przywołuje u nie jednego uśmiech na twarzy. Zwłaszcza jak ktoś grał i wczuwał się w grę.
I know this is called Syanna's theme... but honestly, it could be used for Detlaff and Anna-Henrietta too. For whichever ending you choose... for atleast one of these three, sometimes everyone, their part in the story ends in tragedy. In my own playthrough, at first, I destroyed Detlaff but ended up with Syanna killing her sister and in turn dying herself. When I played through the game again, I got the ending where both Syanna and the Duchess lived, but Detlaff perished once again. And although I thought this to be the "best" ending... in the end I cannot say that Detlaff was a wholehearted monster. He -did- do monstrous things like the murders and siccing a horde of vampires onto an innocent city, but he was also a victim of Syanna's manipulation, so I can atleast understand where he came from.
But yeah... a hundred percent good ending was never an option.
But Dettlaff ordered the other vampires to attack Beauclair just because Anna Henrietta was stupid and chose to sacrifice the whole town and not just hand over Syanna 🤷🏼♀️ that was immature and selfish.
Dettlaff only wanted explanations, and it was the sisters who were able to prevent the massacre.
I was wondering where the other video went, glad to see it again. Have alot of experience with just this song. No matter how long it takes, Tw3 just always comes back with it's beauty. Each time I try to describe this game and everything about it, all that comes to mind is "Magic" And that's it, it's just magical...
I miss the good old days of being literally obsessed with this game. Spending more time with it than sleeping. They were awful days, sure. But there's still beauty in it. Not surprised to be honest, not when it comes to this game. Long comment, but I hope someone feels the same as me. Oh well, love to ya!
I feel like you, and I really miss those days too
I needed this, thank you. This heavenly piece of art doesn't show up on your recommendation section, people come here by choice. So again, thank you friend...
it did show in mine
@@magdachlebicka3895 stop lying magda
In fact this showed in my recommendation and brings me good memories of Toussaint
Finally I can understand a little about why this piece its so sad, if you listen Lacrimosa of Mozart, does the same thing with the chords, but in Syanna’s theme its slower, makes them sound like a sigh, 2 chords and then a pause, like u are taking air then letting the air out.
thank you so much for recovering this, you’re the man
“What did you do?”
“What I had to do….. what she deserved”
I was wondering where this video has gone, ty for bringing it back
what a masterpiece
Every time tears on the eyes :'(
I'm so happy she's ok in my playthrough (never watched any guide, that moment when you realize that seemingly insignificant action saved her and went holy shit thank god I did that......, cd project you evil genius story teller)
such a beautiful sound. followed by deep and heavy emotion
"Rhena.. my Rhena..."
I honestly felt bad for Detaff. He was manipulated in the most treacherous of ways. If only he had just left and not gone on a rampage. I hated that he died (usually)
@@SupersaiyanChristian That's the beauty of the Witcher Universe. Things are never are as they seem. Detlaff, a Higher Vampire deeply loved the illusion that was Rhena. His feelings turned into a weapon against Syanna's abusers, trying to get back at the home that had seen her as nothing more than a curse on the Duchy.
Syanna and Detlaff were both responsible for the killings caused in Toussaint. Syanna employed a beast of incredible power, who's presence inspires vampiric invasions. Detlaff carried out the will without question, knowing he was in the wrong and cared little. Both Syanna and Detlaff are tragic characters who are victims in their own rights, but also victims who became monsters by the pain they endured.
Syanna's story is beautiful in the way its presented. She endured pain and festered on it, wishing nothing more than to burn down the home that turned her away; when unknowingly... her little sister sought desperately to restore what was lost between them. Detlaff however, is the loser in this. No matter what, killing Syanna does not undo the crimes he commited; when he's presented that he could've sought help to recover his illusion of a lover. He is the example of how DANGEROUS it is for monsters and humans to be so romantically connected.
@@Polomance862Beautifully put
@@Polomance862 And it’s even more tragic that no matter who you save or let die, someone loses a person dear to them and much more. If Syanna were to die, Anarietta goes mad with despair and throws you in prison for your failure to save her. If Dettlaff were to die, you would maintain your honor at the expense of Regis’ status among his kin, unintentionally forcing him into exile. That, along with the last words of Dettlaff’s bio if he should die:
“As he died, Dettlaff harbored no hard feelings for Regis, knowing that this was the best option for him. There was no longer anything in this world he wished to live for.”
Where can we listen this quote ?
best sad soundtrack from Witcher 3, nostalgia
Anytime I hear this music I know it's going to be sad story and I will cry
Just started blood and wine and found this song i know this gonna be sad😢
Her story is sad and shows how past relation on others life - mean Detlaff
ahh thank you I use this for dnd all the time!!!
I really dont want to kill dettlaff, but he is too dangerous to be left alive.
It's not a Jedi way!
ty man!
This is so beautyful
Almost forgotten you exist...
This tune... Is crying....
I miss all those comments....
I posted the first comment 5 years ago of the initial video . Now it's gone. Sad 😢. But the memories aren't . I used to sleep with that music back then...
Funny thing, I platinumed the game 2 days ago.
I know she's the villain and that she is the Beast of Beauclair but it doesn't change the fact that i fell hard for her even if she's wrong i can't help but love her a lot, damn they know how write a character.
There is no right choice in blood and wine
Am i rhe only one that sympathizes with Syanna?
Nope. But If she was ugly I wouldn’t lol
the real beast of beauclair
yes she attackted the city with an army of vampires she is the real beast
@@spearofthechurch irony?
this and dettlaff music box got deleted, hope someone can recover the other one, too
if you have url to the video, I can try to do it
@@anon9689 th-cam.com/video/L4oFqI2E_Us/w-d-xo.html
here it is, the original name is Dettlaff's grief
@@ngoclongpham4319 success! :) /watch?v=hQwEXmkHfgA
@@anon9689 I LOVE YOU SO MUCH I WAS JUST SEARCHING FOR IT
Ok ông
what happened to that vid and channel
This...
13july1990s
Does anyone know what instrument this is? A harp maybe? Sounds a bit different
I am pretty sure its a harp but I'm no expert lol
It's a harp with some editing.
❤️🩹
_Syanna: farewell, detlaff.._
*Detlaff: .. ..*
_Syanna: thank you for letting me use you_
*Detlaff: i'm happy my powers helped you, Syanna*
_Syanna: i had no choice.. i needed.._
*Detlaff: ..i understand*
_Syanna: i am sorry_
*Detlaff: don't.. a vampire doesn't apologize for taking life blood from someone*
_Syanna: ..so why should I have to?_
*Detlaff: i understand perfectly..why you did what you did*
_Syanna: and you did it because you knew what i needed.._
*Detlaff: i helped you because no one else would have*
_Syanna: ..no one else could have_
*Detlaff: you have your closure.. don't feel tied to a victim*
_Syanna: Detlaff, I.._
*Detlaff: don't apologize, Syanna.. you are a predator*
_Syanna: .. .._
*Detlaff: this is what you learned from me, my young disciple..*
_Syanna: you.. Knew i would do this?_
*Detlaff: everyone does.. it is the cycle of grief and pain, that animates the Living*
_Syanna: it is Life.. and Living.._
*Detlaff: like the pain of birth.. unavoidable*
There is no such line in the game