The fact that Belgium (Antwerp) took first place from The Netherlands (Rotterdam) is that in the Rotterdam harbor a lot of customs officers have been arrested a few years ago because they were corrupted by the drugs maffia. They let the containers through the port uncontrolled by customs. The new customs office on the Maasvlakte (Rotterdam harbor) has scanning streets for container trucks. Containers are now randomly chosen by a computer to go through the scan streets. Customs officers aren’t the ones who point out the containers, which need to be scanned, anymore. The succes rate of customs has gone up considerably, to such an extent that the business model of the drugs maffia came in dangerous territory. They fled to Antwerp. Now Belgium is starting to do the same as The Netherlands did, step up policing and customs control. The waterbed effect will push the drugs maffia to other ports, like Hamburg and Le Havre. It won’t disappear, I’m afraid.
The war on drugs isn't something that can be won indeed. Take out one mafia, another fills in the void. Disable one route, they will find another. They will always find a way. We can only hope legalizing drugs will make drug trafficking not profitable enough.
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This is how you make a short documentary Vice. You show actual clips, maps, and information on the subject. It’s not just some kid sitting in a room talking about the social consequences of drugs.
This level of trafficking doesn't happen without some inside men in key positions in different businesses and institutions around in Europe. This is not a problem just for Belgium. These organizations operate in all of Europe as proven by the goods trafficked. Most operations by the police are completely meaningless, as stated in this video the losses are accounted for. I don't believe anything will be done unless someone with an extreme level of drive and competence takes the initiative.
The problem of drugs should be solved at the root - by developing economies in the countries producing drugs, so less people would be drawn into that work.
nope, "extreme level of drive and competence." - lol more likely to get killed within a week or month if that someone is lucky. Or just phony puppet to be controlled by the syndicate as to how you can battle this.
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I'm American living in the UK. This story is so disturbing. I had no idea how powerful drug cartels are here in Europe. I will tell you I'm from L.A. Hearing this story makes me think of the states. The guy who said "if things keep going this way, Antwerp will become a narco state, I'm sure he is right. So many dark stories in the world. I'm very sad about this story. Belgium is an absolutely beautiful country. I hate to hear this is happening there.
Not "Europe". You can't generalize that way. Would you say that life is the same in Denmark as it is in Cyprus? You sound like some Europeans that talk about "the life in America" as if life in e.g. New York were the same in Alabama
The drugs in Europe is very high. But blame the left that aloud tgis happpens. The left doesn’t put criminals in jail. And I am not surprised you as American don’t know about this. Sorry but most of Americans don’t know anything what happens outside of US.
"The EU is starting to look more like the western Balkans". Oh please, Belgium and the Netherlands were known for drug trafficking long before the Balkans got involved. Take some responsibility for your actions please and stop using the Balkans as a scapegoat.
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
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Belgium is a wonderful country. Full of delicious cuisine and outstanding beer culture. World class chocolatier shops in charming historic medieval cities. Definitely not boring, especially not now that the coke has arrived.
@@korgond, go research Colonial Belgium. Do some digging. Don't puke when you're done. That's the challenge! Holland and Belgium are some of the most disgusting countries, historically. Also, most of their wealth is generated from Colonial era. The wealth only accrued. Educate yourself.
It has penetraded all levels of society in Belgium.. In the last years I have found myself in a unique position to see the many different walks of life this drug was found it's way in. Law enforcement, justice workers, managers CEO's, dentists, house mom's, construction workers, lawyers, ice-cream vendors, to the small business owners, in the smallest of villages to the cream of civilization, It's everywhere, dirt cheap and easy to get. Coke is so accessible it is only two links or two phonecalls away. Law enforcement in Belgium just don't have the recourses to combat or slow down the coke economy. Within 10 years cartels and drug gangs will have infiltrated in the most sensitive positions rendering all efforts to combat the industry useless.
@@saadamahmoud8108 Relying on 'hope' is foolish. This is a deadly serious problem, with the ability to affect every level of society as outlined in the program. Your ignorance is rather astonishing.
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@@robertalker652 It is foolish to have hope? I really have yet to see this outside the news, I never said I didn’t believe neither did I say this isn’t serious so I don’t fully understand your comment, what part about what I said sounds « ignorant » ? And what do you have against hope?
Every week there are disturbances in this city: gunshots fired, grenades are dropped, people get arrested with a trunk filled with weapons and equipment… for several years this is going on now… Kind of strange that there haven’t been any deaths yet.
The capture by the police of those containers happened in the Netherlands in the province of Brabant. it was enormous news in the Netherlands at the time. It is possible that it also happened in Belgium but in those photos the uniforms were Dutch.
No it's not big news at all, rather it is pretty wel known that they tip off the police on their own shipment, so their attention would go elsewhere while they retrieve a bigger shipment
@@NavidIsANoob They are outlawed for a reason. There are more people that die from or are otherwise adversely impacted by legal drugs than illegal drugs.
Yeah the war on drugs is just a total failure, if you view it by the standards of keeping people safe and away from drugs If you view it from an economic standpoint, the markup from colombia to europe is so gigantisch, that it keeps the money flowing, they dont want it legal, they want to keep it illegal so the profit remains
Belgium is not a boring country. Born and raised in India, living in Canada now, went to Belgium for two weeks. One of my fav. countries. Absolutely stunning architecture and cities and towns. Learned so many belgian traditions. Belgian ppl were so welcoming and warm. Loved it. Planning to have a road trip across Belgium in summer 2023. 🇧🇪❤️
@@KittenBowl1 What? No country can entertain you 365 days a year. You’re bored because of your personal reasons, not because Belgium is boring. You can go live in Carribean, and once the excitement wears off, you’ll find it boring too. Find ways to have fun. Go out. Go on adventures. I bet you haven’t seen 100% of Belgium. Go do that. Too bad you guys are bored in Belgium, swap your places with billions living in poverty and no water or food or anything. They won’t find it boring.
Politicians: "we will stop the drugs entering our country!" Also Politicians: *sniffs a whole bag of coke" Yeah nah, it will never stop, too much money is involved in this.
Surely we should be asking questions about; 1. Why demand is so high & 2. Ways to decriminalise and “open up” these markets / use / access or whatever to reduce the criminal incentives
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
@@royale7620 It's not moronic. It's been proven to work. Decriminalizing lowers drug consumption and makes it safer in general, while also shrinking black markets. Regulated drugs are way better than getting poor quality and way more potent and dangerous drugs from the street. When addicts feel safe to reach out for help instead of being criminalized for their addiction, they have a better chance of actually beating that addiction.
This is same happened in Vancouver they legalized drugs some years ago now this people demand legalization of hard drugs which even in small quantities can threat humans well beings ..so don't ever think legalization means over....it's just one step towards more legalization of lot of hard drugs...
@@joexavier4070 legalize it al. Then give poeple that want it excess to it. FOR FREE. Under the condition that they joing a program to help them stop using it
i am from Belgium myself and this little "Documentary" really opened my eyes beceause we've only seen one of these many big crimenal finds from all of these masive containers + torcher chamber. it's frighting to know that all these stuff are getting transported inside my country without the news (where nearly 75% of the poeple relay on) anounching these stuff. -
This kind of news has been reached out to us Belgians by Belgian media. However, mostly in small and short pieces of a puzzle. This documentary on the other hand glues those pieces together so you see bigger picture. Not everybody can see the bigger picture when reading small articles with just facts of day X. A short-documentary like this on our national television is needed to inform us well.
wait what? the torture room, dentist chair and fake police uniforms were found in The Netherlands (Brabant), not in Belgium. top notch journalism this.... 🙄
Completely understandable. I would imagine that hollowed-out Brussels sprouts would be ideal containers for smuggling, due to many people's reluctance to go near them.
Probably all the Albanians dealing there before they get on their boats to cross the channel and infest Britain with their lawless ways just like the darker continents people.
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The torture chamber clip @ 1:12 is actually no where near Antwerp, it was a raid by the dutch police's special intervention unit and the containers were located in a dutch village called Wouwse Plantage, even though it's close to the border belgian authorities were not involved instead the investigation was a corporation by French and Dutch law enforcement
wow, it is almost as if international criminals dont care about borders! just because it didnt happen in Belgium doesnt mean it is not related to the Antwerp drug trade.
@@DLTeismo I don't think you understood the video, "the war on drugs cannot be won as a war". Do you really believe that you can win by making the product harder to get (aka raising profit margins) when the problem is purely economic? Legalize, just like alcohol and tobacco got acknowledged as recreational yet concerning substances Tax, reduce the financial burden of anti-criminal and healthcare operations by making them pay themselves Regulate, make the drugs follow standards limiting drugs doped with harmful ingredients that most of the time just raise the profit available by replacing the real thing with cheap chemicals (both psychoactive and fillers) People need to accept that a global market allows for freedom of choice (buyer power) on any kind of product, drugs included. Educate the population with comprehensive information about the effects of drug usage, i was 12 when i made my first school assignment on psychoactive substances. The problem was never the drugs, it is just a tool that organized crime has huge leverage on.
All it does is increase the potential market for the illegal trade. Legal drugs will always be more expensive, not as potent, and frankly, not as "cool". Legalising / decriminalising drugs has not been seen to work anywhere it's been tried, on the contrary.
@@daniel.lopresti where have drugs been legalized lol? the problem is the black market. america showed this clearly with alcohol prohibition, why would hard drugs be any different? although i think they should go a different route and not make it legal and tax it but have a governemt monoply over the whole thing
Dutchies have the laid back attitude (mostly) and coffeeshops. Also some great cannabis breeders. I usually only stop for tobacco in Belgium but when time permits I like to spend a day or two in NL. I dropped into Eindhoven (coffeeshop stop) en route from Dublin to Moscow recently. The sun was shining, lots of people on bicycles... I thought to myself "I could live here."
@@ejtattersall156 which part? Cheap BE tobacco? Lots of cyclists in Eindhoven? Dutchies being chilled? Existence of coffeeshops? Or great cannabis breeders?
They say, everybody has a price and I mean everybody... even you. What would you do if 2 guys aproached you and tell you "You have a beautuful family" and offer you a big sum of cash? Silver or lead as they say. You can't go to the cops.
Glad to hear that the UN speech of president Petro about the failure of the war on drugs has resonated with the European community. It is time for a new approach, the economic incentive is too big to keep doing things the same way.
They need Miami Vice! Focus on the source, send a strike team to level these narco compounds in Columbia. USA could easily do this as it has done it before.
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
as a fellow belgian: van onder welke steen ben jij net gekropen? onze minister van justitie is recentelijk bijna gekidnapped door de drugsmafia en moest ondergedoken leven voor enkele weken, wake up!
Thing is there is way more coke smuggled into Amsterdam , but the authorities just to not catch it. There is a reason Amsterdam has 20 piza shops on a street with no one inside buying pizza and a bunch of mercedes parked outside.
I highly recommend the book “the first and last days on the war on drugs” it’s an extremely well researched book that totally changed my view on what the drug war is, why it exists, how it has never worked. It’s also eye opening on what addiction is in the first place. Did you know that before heroine was illegal, a form of it was commonly enjoyed at fancy high class parties, and yet addiction rates were low. But when desperate poor people turn to it, addiction rates are very high. Hmmm, curious.
Nowadays (and ever since the 1960s!) ALL classes - the rich and wealthy too! - are quite equally susceptible to all kinds of (drug) (ab-)use & addictions. It's this 20th + 21st century "Weltschmerz" we (in the West) are living in - a Sign of the Times...
The location pointer at 1:03 is not showing Antwerp but Zeebrugge, Antwerp is literally located two provinces to the right at the Schelde river... (Edit: They fixed it people now it's showing the correct location)
Prohibition doesn’t work. Legalization doesn’t work either. Here in Canada, legalization experiments failed. It is turning the city into a slum. Decriminalization creates a whole wide range of other problems.
They wanna make a difference they need to start going after the cops, politicians, and bankers etc that are making this happen just as much as the dealers. They are all complicit but the "legal" guys rarely if ever get arrested.
Trying to solve a health problem with violence has always been ridiculous and wrong. Imagine going to a doctor to talk about your health problem, and the doctor gently placing a gun on the table as you speak.
why not have some legal avenue to buy drugs so as to lower the market price and therefor killing the profit margin of these traffickers? I don't get our obsession with banning drugs, I get they are bad for people and they can't stop themselves but then why is McDonalds, alcohol and Tabaco legal...
we would not be productive society if everyone had access to drugs look at alcohol for example, that is a huge burden on society and health care costs and causes loads of problems
@@daliamosesp well we already have access to them, that's why drug traffickers still exist even after century's of criminalization. Didn't you watch the video.
@@daliamosesp then lets apply high sin taxes, greater education and help for drug users and try to curb demand. I also don't want drugs to be widely used but at the end of the day it seems that banning them didn't work.
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
Perhaps the problem is that we're declaring WAR. Surely we could balance out and create something that makes people feel better than drugs. For instance reasonable jobs with high wages and affordable standard of living so people spend their time working a decent amount and living happily.
The last time I drove through Antwerp port (about 2 weeks ago in car) the amount of lorry traffic would make it impossible to make any meaningful search of these vehicles, so it certainly won't be stopped at this point.
Criminal organizations love to get into businesses that are in high demand, illegal, and profitable. Only to resolve this would be to legalize it with certain rules and regulations.
This is what happens when crime organisations have more competent people than the government itself. Belgian politicians are barely capable of forming a government and running the country, you can't really expect them to take down organised crime any time soon.
nah the most competent ppl run pharmaceutical business that makes legal opioids and amphetamines. Govs just pretend they do stuff - guess who is funding those gov officials elections?
It is concerning to hear authorities promoting the war on drugs, very costly and largely ineffective, as well as legalization which don't solve the root causes of ever increasing drug consumption. Primary focus should be given to population's mental health, addressing issues such as trauma, anxiety and depression.
I believe, or rather I have witnessed, how people who consume drugs are disconnected from the consequences of their little moment of fun (not even talking about addicts). Heck I've seen Mexicans doing coke at a party while condemning how their country is destroyed by cartels, as if it happened in a vacuum.
The Portuguese model of legalisation and government control of distribution of drugs makes a lot of sense. For the Portuguese, the money saved on not having to fight drug trade was invested in treatment and the use of drugs has dropped along with the existence of a black market. Food for thought
Instead of spending Billions a year, on an expensive game of whack-a-mole, put the money into rehab programs and try to actually lower drug use. If there's much less demand, it wouldn't be profitable anymore for traffickers.
i dont use drugs of any kind my self but, the amount of drugs that Europeans and US citizens consume or need to go with their lifes makes me think about how socially stable those countries can be there wouldn't be offer if there was no demand
It’s also sad to think when they (meaning law enforcement and local officials) are so lenient with open air drug sale and drug usage like they are in say Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, New York, and Philadelphia it just makes it harder to fight the cartels and criminal organizations in their native countries which is causing a full blown war in those developing nations it’s a disgusting American trait we have to not mind or care for the problems we cause around the world just for our pleasure
What can be boring about sitting in a brasserie sipping a Duvel and eating a nice dish of steak entrecôte with pomme frite. It's always had a history of diamonds and precious stones trade plus the EU. Quite a entertaining place. And let's not forget it's the birthplace of Hercule Poirot.
You can never trust anyone that’s associated with this drug Does not matter if you take it or sell it the drug eventually changes the way the person thinks
@@liammorris1018 not ignorant, just the hard reality. I don’t think you’d like it if I were to send you to a heart surgery performed by a surgeon who’s a crackhead. I’d take off those rose-tinted glasses if I were you
Dear Economist.. may I humbly ask for a wee bit more focus whilst editing your youtube episodes? You could be forgiven for saying ‘this is Antwerp’ while you actually show Zeebruges on the map. But featuring footage from the DUTCH police and presenting it as Belgian is well below the standards of your outlet. Standards that you were and indeed are respected for.
I agree. They were talking about the economies of western balkans countries being destroyed while showing a photo of Bosniaks in a concentration camp... disgusting 🤮🇧🇦
Dear Economist Bauke BALJEU, what did they get wrong with that footage? It says in the 'Wouwse Plantage the Netherlands' in the video. Where is 'Wouwse Plantage - the Netherlands?' Does it match the map in the video? Didn't they say in the video, "just outside the Belgian Port of Antwerp?" Is 'Wouwse Plantage the Netherlands' "just outside the Belgian Port of Antwerp?" I'd say that about 30km is "just outside the Belgian Port of Antwerp?" Did they say it was in Belgium? Did they say it was Belgian police? Just because it wasn't in Belgium doesn't mean that the activities aren't associated with the Port of Antwerp.
@@nel5518 Really? Even in the 90's I was shocked that even in a small town like Wuppertall I got approached by drug dealers the moment I stepped out of the train. The police box there closed at 10 P.M., so business was booming after that. Now compare it to a capital city like Brussels ... but to be fair, things have gone down the drain the last few decades for sure.
I dimiss this characterization of South America and the Western Balkans as intrinsically barbaric and somehow “with a higher tolerance for violence”. People are not inately more violent than others but pushed to be so because of factors beyond their control, including extreme poverty. If “Europeans”, i.e. Belgians, are so much more civilized, then how come uneducated, “violent” people are outsmarting politicians and officials left and right?
unfortunately we live in a world full of hypocrisy where the mainstream media constantly lies to us. People from the Balkans and South America are only the perpetrators and those who die in police actions, while the main dealers are in suits, respectable gentlemen from "civilized Europe". Therefore, no police action has any impact on supply chains. Governments of Western Europe and America should stop dealing drugs if they don't want drugs
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so they spent less than a minute in the end of the video to explain the actual viable solution, given the rest are only growing spendings and corruption. Can increase the customs/police budgets endlessly - the corruption will only grow. The legalization and proper medical treatment is the key.
Before, it was Rotterdam (Netherlands) that was considered the main entry-point of all drugs. Now, finally, Belgium is on top of the Netherlands in something
Let them in with open arms, protect them, make sure they bring quality products only, give them warehouse facilities, but just tax them 6% VAT tax ... it will solve Belgium's debt within two years. Ah, before I forget, give them citizenship since they have invested and have rights to obtain a gold visa.
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
Heheheheheheheheheheheh ! The criminals , the politicians in Belgium and European Union bureaucrats in Brussels have it the way they want and profit the most , it suits them the way things are , why should they change anything ? Why should they pay Belgium's debt with their own money when they have the tax payers to do it ?
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The fact that Belgium (Antwerp) took first place from The Netherlands (Rotterdam) is that in the Rotterdam harbor a lot of customs officers have been arrested a few years ago because they were corrupted by the drugs maffia. They let the containers through the port uncontrolled by customs. The new customs office on the Maasvlakte (Rotterdam harbor) has scanning streets for container trucks. Containers are now randomly chosen by a computer to go through the scan streets. Customs officers aren’t the ones who point out the containers, which need to be scanned, anymore. The succes rate of customs has gone up considerably, to such an extent that the business model of the drugs maffia came in dangerous territory. They fled to Antwerp. Now Belgium is starting to do the same as The Netherlands did, step up policing and customs control. The waterbed effect will push the drugs maffia to other ports, like Hamburg and Le Havre. It won’t disappear, I’m afraid.
You ´re right, and it can’t disapear, people will always need drugs to party, to work, and because of addiction.
Extremely well said my friend.
The war on drugs isn't something that can be won indeed. Take out one mafia, another fills in the void. Disable one route, they will find another. They will always find a way. We can only hope legalizing drugs will make drug trafficking not profitable enough.
@MeChupaUnHuevon Drug,Sky Fairy. Same addiction, different drug.
Europe = Say yes to drugs?
When the buying stops, the smuggling stops too, but we all know Europe cant keep its noses clean so ................ lol
België altijd aan de top. Eindelijk zijn we boven de Nederlanders 💪💪💪
🇧🇪is nummer 1 in drugshandel, Nederland 🥈
Als Nederlander ben ik blij voor jullie! Gelukkig doet de Antwerpse haven het naast drugs ook steeds beter! Zet hem op daar!
the one thing belgium is better at
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Omdat ze het moeilijker hebben in NL gaan ze nu naar België idd
Belgian here. My country is definitely not boring. It is small with a lot of places to visit, great food and entertainment.
Right? What made them think that “Belgium ridiculed for being boring” is in any form an appropriate introduction.
@@fatibr2060 I was thinking the same thing! That not nice for belgian people
The best beer in the world!
@@fatibr2060 I think it’s mostly stems from their neutrality in ww2. fence sitters typically aren’t very interesting or passionate about anything.
@@northodges Neutrality???????? Mate, seriously? How can you get facts so wrong?
Congrats Belgium on this glorious achievement
Us dutch ppl will get the throne back.
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@@indiasuperclean6969 whoever made this, Nice BOT.
Let's add it next to our world record of the longest period without a government
@@indiasuperclean6969 lol get a life bot
This is how you make a short documentary Vice. You show actual clips, maps, and information on the subject. It’s not just some kid sitting in a room talking about the social consequences of drugs.
what? What's wrong with showing the social consequences of drugs
You’re way off bro, completely different worlds of journalism. Like comparing apples and pears.
@@cloudunknown not the point of the clip
Is the economist vice??
Don't forget they recycle 90% of the items, that is why they sitting in a studio with the new generation journalist talking about it🤣
This level of trafficking doesn't happen without some inside men in key positions in different businesses and institutions around in Europe. This is not a problem just for Belgium. These organizations operate in all of Europe as proven by the goods trafficked. Most operations by the police are completely meaningless, as stated in this video the losses are accounted for. I don't believe anything will be done unless someone with an extreme level of drive and competence takes the initiative.
Shadow government trying to destabilize Europe
The problem of drugs should be solved at the root - by developing economies in the countries producing drugs, so less people would be drawn into that work.
@@alexxx4434 the cartels are too powerful for anything like that to happen. Also drugs are way too profitable.
nope, "extreme level of drive and competence." - lol more likely to get killed within a week or month if that someone is lucky. Or just phony puppet to be controlled by the syndicate as to how you can battle this.
only legalizing could be a real solution.
In Bulgaria they say if you cant buy something with money, then you have to buy it with a lots of money.
What????
@@sebwarren9892 If you can't buy something with money, you just need more money to buy it.
@@sebwarren9892 Incase you are not able to purchase an item by the means of capital, you shall ought to acquire said item by increasing the amount of capital offered by an order of magnitude.
yeah, corruption, nothing to be proud of
@@lo2740 You act like western Europeans don’t push corruption themselves the world we live in is very ironic
I'm American living in the UK. This story is so disturbing. I had no idea how powerful drug cartels are here in Europe. I will tell you I'm from L.A. Hearing this story makes me think of the states. The guy who said "if things keep going this way, Antwerp will become a narco state, I'm sure he is right. So many dark stories in the world. I'm very sad about this story. Belgium is an absolutely beautiful country. I hate to hear this is happening there.
The mocro maffia in the Netherlands are the bossn
Do you really think the situation is better in the US? About 80.000 people die from cartel fentanyl every year.
Not "Europe". You can't generalize that way. Would you say that life is the same in Denmark as it is in Cyprus? You sound like some Europeans that talk about "the life in America" as if life in e.g. New York were the same in Alabama
The drugs in Europe is very high. But blame the left that aloud tgis happpens. The left doesn’t put criminals in jail. And I am not surprised you as American don’t know about this. Sorry but most of Americans don’t know anything what happens outside of US.
@@mrblaoblao6981 The point is Europe is basically borderless.. Belgium is the point of entry... the comparison stands
"The EU is starting to look more like the western Balkans".
Oh please, Belgium and the Netherlands were known for drug trafficking long before the Balkans got involved. Take some responsibility for your actions please and stop using the Balkans as a scapegoat.
True, though you have to admit that Albanians are the dodgiest people out of all the European countries...
It's always easier to drop the blame on smaller countries
The Balkans are white and that's the only race you can be outright racist against now. It's really a south American issue.
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
true, NL is mdma production central for years already
The police footage is actually the Dutch police, not the Belgian police. And the map at 1:03 is Zeebrugge, not Antwerp.
true, from the dutch DIENST ESPECIALE INTERVENTIES ( DSI)
they are 1 port now. look it up they fused recently
I noticed that immediately as well. Really high quality production here *facepalm*
Those torture containers were found in NL as well. Makes me so proud as a Dutchy 😢
Glad you said this, that way i dont have to XD
"Belgium, ridiculed by some for being boring"
Is that really The Economists' intro? That is the characterization of Belgium you came up with?
They must be Nigel Farage fans, right?
as an expat belgium is terribly boring ngl
It’s boring in some places, not the whole country 😂
@@Gynkys Belgium is not wel known for being very "open" to outsiders. But boring? Far from it.
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People who don't know anything love hating on Belgium
@@smoshbooz how can anyone hate on Belgium? It's a lovely country. Full of history, cuisine, art and culture
@@korgond, go research Colonial Belgium. Do some digging. Don't puke when you're done. That's the challenge! Holland and Belgium are some of the most disgusting countries, historically. Also, most of their wealth is generated from Colonial era. The wealth only accrued. Educate yourself.
@@korgond cuz I'm Dutch
It has penetraded all levels of society in Belgium.. In the last years I have found myself in a unique position to see the many different walks of life this drug was found it's way in. Law enforcement, justice workers, managers CEO's, dentists, house mom's, construction workers, lawyers, ice-cream vendors, to the small business owners, in the smallest of villages to the cream of civilization, It's everywhere, dirt cheap and easy to get. Coke is so accessible it is only two links or two phonecalls away. Law enforcement in Belgium just don't have the recourses to combat or slow down the coke economy. Within 10 years cartels and drug gangs will have infiltrated in the most sensitive positions rendering all efforts to combat the industry useless.
Where do you live? I only see this on the news. I hear vaguely about it. Things are chill here in Kortrijk/Courtrai. Hopefully stays this way.
Your unique position comes from being a journalist?
@@saadamahmoud8108 Relying on 'hope' is foolish. This is a deadly serious problem, with the ability to affect every level of society as outlined in the program. Your ignorance is rather astonishing.
You don't kno that many folk if takes 2 phone calls and not just 1 call lol 😆 .. and by way my friend .. everything u say I was agreeing with APART FROM THE ( CREAM OF CIVILISATION ) NOT BEST CHOICE WORDS NO 1 IN THIS WORLD IS BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE . FDOM HOMELESS GUY STREET TO RISHEST GUY IN STREET ONLY THING THATS DIFRENT IS DIGITS ON A BIT PAPER OR ON SCREEEN ... SO NO9NE IN THIS WORLD BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE AND TILL EVERYONE THINKS N BELIEVES THAT THEN WE WONT BE CIVILSED IN CIVILISATION YOU TALK ABOUT ??
@@robertalker652 It is foolish to have hope? I really have yet to see this outside the news, I never said I didn’t believe neither did I say this isn’t serious so I don’t fully understand your comment, what part about what I said sounds « ignorant » ? And what do you have against hope?
Every week there are disturbances in this city: gunshots fired, grenades are dropped, people get arrested with a trunk filled with weapons and equipment… for several years this is going on now…
Kind of strange that there haven’t been any deaths yet.
Don't worry .it will come like a tsunami
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@@criessmiles3620 ultracringe
There are a lot of killings happening. It's just that the media is not sharing it. Ours media is clearly controlled by the political parties.
I love these type of videos They give me so much motivation and inspiration to do more with my life
The capture by the police of those containers happened in the Netherlands in the province of Brabant. it was enormous news in the Netherlands at the time. It is possible that it also happened in Belgium but in those photos the uniforms were Dutch.
as if anglophones can tell the difference
No it's not big news at all, rather it is pretty wel known that they tip off the police on their own shipment, so their attention would go elsewhere while they retrieve a bigger shipment
@@rok8031 What are you on about mate? It was pretty clearly really big news when it came out
@@Timspt8 ? I didn't see a thing can't be that big of news then
It says The Netherlands in the video; trafficking without borders!
"Why is an illegal product being sold ilegally?" Shocking stuff.
people are selling illegal things.....ILLEGALLY? They know that's illegal right?
I suppose they should legalise fentanyl as well. Legalising some substances doesn't make criminals go away.
@@micu1544 How's that? If it were legally sold (and taxed), how could criminals still profit from it?
@@NavidIsANoob you'd have to legalise everything was my point. Some things like fentanyl are deadly.
@@NavidIsANoob They are outlawed for a reason. There are more people that die from or are otherwise adversely impacted by legal drugs than illegal drugs.
I can see why the European authorities put so much effort into stopping drugs because everyone can see how successful that was in the United States.
Yeah the war on drugs is just a total failure, if you view it by the standards of keeping people safe and away from drugs
If you view it from an economic standpoint, the markup from colombia to europe is so gigantisch, that it keeps the money flowing, they dont want it legal, they want to keep it illegal so the profit remains
At least now we know why we dont get fresh green bananas and platanos hahahahahah, morning jokes
How succesful? 51 years of war on drugs. Drugs are much cheaper. Drugs are available everywhere. There is more users than ever. Yeah great success..
😂😂😂...San Francisco and fenta crisis
Congratulations to drugs for winning the war on drugs
Belgium is not a boring country. Born and raised in India, living in Canada now, went to Belgium for two weeks. One of my fav. countries. Absolutely stunning architecture and cities and towns. Learned so many belgian traditions. Belgian ppl were so welcoming and warm. Loved it. Planning to have a road trip across Belgium in summer 2023. 🇧🇪❤️
2 weeks is not enough to get bored my man, i have friends living there and bored from living there for 3 years
Built by natives. Now it’s being destroyed with plans of diversity that breeds disaster everywhere
Lol you think you can learn about how boring a country is or not in 2 weeks?! Try living there for 10 years instead.
@@KittenBowl1 What? No country can entertain you 365 days a year. You’re bored because of your personal reasons, not because Belgium is boring. You can go live in Carribean, and once the excitement wears off, you’ll find it boring too. Find ways to have fun. Go out. Go on adventures. I bet you haven’t seen 100% of Belgium. Go do that. Too bad you guys are bored in Belgium, swap your places with billions living in poverty and no water or food or anything. They won’t find it boring.
Must be nice living in Canada. Wish to go there next time.
I live in Antwerp. Since when do I live near the coast? Didn't knew we had a beach 🤣
Sint Anneke ftw
Breskens is 70km vant stad. In geo termen is da pinuts, mr st Annekesstrand is nog ticher poaij moat
@@tonybeatbutcher 👊😂😂😂😂
Did they fix the map? Looks like antwerp to me, when comparing it to Google maps.
Climate change FTW, Antwerpen Aan Zee here we come. 😉
Those torture chambers / containers were found in The Netherlands, not Belgium.
But the Economist is not wrong in connecting it to the drug trade around Antwerpen, by Moroccan criminals.
There were also torture chambers found in belgium, I guess they just used Dutch footage.
"Those torture chambers / containers were found in The Netherlands, not Belgium."
And what is incorrect about the footage in the video?
you have to make the fake news somehow, right?
The "Antwerp" drug maffia is 90% Dutch
Politicians: "we will stop the drugs entering our country!"
Also Politicians: *sniffs a whole bag of coke"
Yeah nah, it will never stop, too much money is involved in this.
Politicians always say one thing and do the opposite.
That cop is out of his mind if he believes he’s catching 10-20% 😂😂
It's an estimate. Do you know what that word means? Clown.
More like 0,1-0,2% 😂
Surely we should be asking questions about;
1. Why demand is so high &
2. Ways to decriminalise and “open up” these markets / use / access or whatever to reduce the criminal incentives
Slow down there pal. You wouldn't want to hurt the bribes of politicians would you? \s
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
I dont get this utterly moronic idea of " opening up " yeah lets make all drugs legal so the dealers dont profit, like bro u high urself?
@@royale7620 It's not moronic. It's been proven to work. Decriminalizing lowers drug consumption and makes it safer in general, while also shrinking black markets. Regulated drugs are way better than getting poor quality and way more potent and dangerous drugs from the street. When addicts feel safe to reach out for help instead of being criminalized for their addiction, they have a better chance of actually beating that addiction.
@@royale7620 lol it works you idiot. Look at Portugal. Only reason why drugs are illegal in Europe is because governments profit out of it
We need to end the drug war and take it out of the criminal's hands!
Easily done, just legalize it.
@@HH-hb9uy my thoughts exactly...
This is same happened in Vancouver they legalized drugs some years ago now this people demand legalization of hard drugs which even in small quantities can threat humans well beings ..so don't ever think legalization means over....it's just one step towards more legalization of lot of hard drugs...
@@joexavier4070 legalize it al.
Then give poeple that want it excess to it.
FOR FREE.
Under the condition that they joing a program to help them stop using it
@@dragnar12 Are you kidding?
i am from Belgium myself and this little "Documentary" really opened my eyes beceause we've only seen one of these many big crimenal finds from all of these masive containers + torcher chamber. it's frighting to know that all these stuff are getting transported inside my country without the news (where nearly 75% of the poeple relay on) anounching these stuff. -
Groot gelijk man 👍
This kind of news has been reached out to us Belgians by Belgian media. However, mostly in small and short pieces of a puzzle. This documentary on the other hand glues those pieces together so you see bigger picture. Not everybody can see the bigger picture when reading small articles with just facts of day X. A short-documentary like this on our national television is needed to inform us well.
Its all staged for generating black side money.......
Greez from the next border........
Reveillez vous ,belgique est l eldorado des stupefiants et mocrococaine
@@benvanmassenhove Ik verwacht ook niets anders van onze linkse en gesensureerde media.
That is pretty sad for the people in that country, drugs just brings violence and death.
It's outlawing drugs that brings violence and death, just as alcohol ban did in the thirties in the US.
@@Cipricus So you're saying everybody should just coke up? You're clearly an expert on the subject 🤔
@@Cipricus This is a narrow view. It only brought that with alcohol because half the country was already addicted.
wait what? the torture room, dentist chair and fake police uniforms were found in The Netherlands (Brabant), not in Belgium. top notch journalism this.... 🙄
And the port of Antwerp on the map looks like the port of Zeebrugge, they didnt put the marker right lol. Anyways, small mistakes i guess : )
The Dutch own the port of Antwerp anyway, it's well known
Brabant hoort ook bij het zachte g land.
Oh wow there so much distance between them .. whew now I am releieved
Belgium isn’t a real country.
Completely understandable. I would imagine that hollowed-out Brussels sprouts would be ideal containers for smuggling, due to many people's reluctance to go near them.
😂 nice
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Probably all the Albanians dealing there before they get on their boats to cross the channel and infest Britain with their lawless ways just like the darker continents people.
Oi! They're quite tasty!
@@Festoniaful Absolutely! My favorite vegetable.
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The torture chamber clip @ 1:12 is actually no where near Antwerp, it was a raid by the dutch police's special intervention unit and the containers were located in a dutch village called Wouwse Plantage, even though it's close to the border belgian authorities were not involved instead the investigation was a corporation by French and Dutch law enforcement
Nonetheless, bone-chilling.
1:08
What's the problem? It's near antwerp, is captioned as wouwse plantage, the Netherlands and the voice-over doesn't specify the police force.
It's Europe, everything is near Antwerp 😂
wow, it is almost as if international criminals dont care about borders! just because it didnt happen in Belgium doesnt mean it is not related to the Antwerp drug trade.
Legalize, tax, regulate. It take the edge off, gets medically more secure, and usually has prescription as requirement.
Really? Do you believe that? The legalization will just make the narco a bigger chipper supplier for the legal drugs companies, man.
@@DLTeismo nah give the handling and sales to pharma industrialists all the parasitic "mafias" will dissapear over night...
@@DLTeismo I don't think you understood the video, "the war on drugs cannot be won as a war". Do you really believe that you can win by making the product harder to get (aka raising profit margins) when the problem is purely economic?
Legalize, just like alcohol and tobacco got acknowledged as recreational yet concerning substances
Tax, reduce the financial burden of anti-criminal and healthcare operations by making them pay themselves
Regulate, make the drugs follow standards limiting drugs doped with harmful ingredients that most of the time just raise the profit available by replacing the real thing with cheap chemicals (both psychoactive and fillers)
People need to accept that a global market allows for freedom of choice (buyer power) on any kind of product, drugs included. Educate the population with comprehensive information about the effects of drug usage, i was 12 when i made my first school assignment on psychoactive substances. The problem was never the drugs, it is just a tool that organized crime has huge leverage on.
All it does is increase the potential market for the illegal trade. Legal drugs will always be more expensive, not as potent, and frankly, not as "cool". Legalising / decriminalising drugs has not been seen to work anywhere it's been tried, on the contrary.
@@daniel.lopresti where have drugs been legalized lol? the problem is the black market. america showed this clearly with alcohol prohibition, why would hard drugs be any different? although i think they should go a different route and not make it legal and tax it but have a governemt monoply over the whole thing
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excelent answer.!! Belgium narco state
“We need to do more of the thing that hasn’t been working for decades.”
Gotta give to you Belgium, you beat us in this one.
-greetings from the Netherlands
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Mijn broer, wees niet zo blij. Belgium is right there on your border. Dag! 😃
Thanks man, btw i like your bike infrastructure, I wish we could also surpass you guys in that but i guess that isn't happening in the near future
Wij zijn IN, NL is passé
The war on drugs cannot be won as a war.
You need to take the war to the actual front (Mexico and Columbia) it's just like fighting the war on ISIS in Minnesota. It won't work
the politicians etc are winning through their acceptance of bribes.
It can if your government isn't corrupt and if you are willing to take extreme measures.
Isn't Singapore winning it's war on drugs being as ruthless as the traffickers?
@@iotaje1 didn't the philippines had success as well?
Belgium, the country i've been born and live in but feel ashamed by. A country in decay because of corrupted politicians.
Politic . Poli means many. Tic means blood sucker. Nuff said.
Its not only Belgium Miriam, its international, rich people buying off politicians, everyone has their price, i live in Belgium as well
Your beloved multiculturalism is killing that country and whole Europe
Same in the UK
@@spencergregory8049 your beloved multiculturalism 👊🤷♂️😉🤡
Got to admit that this feels a little bit like losing as a Dutchie
Doubt in terms of traffic there's a lot of difference between the harbors of either country.
Big access point, central location, etc.
Dutchies have the laid back attitude (mostly) and coffeeshops. Also some great cannabis breeders.
I usually only stop for tobacco in Belgium but when time permits I like to spend a day or two in NL.
I dropped into Eindhoven (coffeeshop stop) en route from Dublin to Moscow recently. The sun was shining, lots of people on bicycles... I thought to myself "I could live here."
@@pedclarkemobile I agree. As you say it Amsterdam could be my second choice too.
@@pedclarkemobile Myth.
@@ejtattersall156 which part? Cheap BE tobacco? Lots of cyclists in Eindhoven? Dutchies being chilled? Existence of coffeeshops? Or great cannabis breeders?
After having been there for a week, I can see why this article is a thing.
How so?
@@theTutenstien it gets handed out for free in some areas.
@@TheOrlobo ah yes, the first few bumps are always free. that is how they get ya.
Same thing in Amsterdam. Especially around the red light district in De Wallen.
@@khalidalali186 I was there as well. I feel like there was a person every block trying to sell it.
Congrats Belgium with this amazing achievement. Let's hope The Netherlands / Rotterdam will take back it's place soon :)
No, don't you dare touch our coke, srsly, let us have something.
Rotterdam is nog altijd de grootste en meest belangrijke haven van Europa, dus maak je niet druk ;)
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😂😅🤣 stop it right there 😅
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This really just shows that the Belgians take their customs duties more seriously
They say, everybody has a price and I mean everybody... even you. What would you do if 2 guys aproached you and tell you "You have a beautuful family" and offer you a big sum of cash? Silver or lead as they say. You can't go to the cops.
I went to Belgium this summer and went to Ghent Bruges Brussels and Antwerp , it was absolutely beautiful, one of my fav countries I have visited now
Be glad you didn't go to Charleroi, Liège and Zichen-Zussen-Bolder
You clearly haven’t visited many countries.
@@rogierb7577 I’ve visited every country in europe with exception to Russia Ukraine and Moldova , 12 US states , nz/aus, pretty well traveled I’d say
I live in Belgium and can't wait to get out of this corrupt **hole
Like the video said. Belgium is boring. Its not bad in any way just not noteworthy to be called beautiful or someones favorite
Glad to hear that the UN speech of president Petro about the failure of the war on drugs has resonated with the European community. It is time for a new approach, the economic incentive is too big to keep doing things the same way.
As a Belgian, I dont really see this as an absolute win
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You dont see this as a win or you do see this as a win?
I would see it as a win, except for the torture chamber but that was in the Netherlands, not Belgium
They need Miami Vice! Focus on the source, send a strike team to level these narco compounds in Columbia. USA could easily do this as it has done it before.
@@calidude1114 narcos are replaceable, the cycle never stops
the best part is at the end, showing the HSBC bank, where the money finally ends up
The main reason why drugs trafficking is still working because of stake holders in government and police.🎉
Not so much in Europe as in the US I think.
The militarisation of the police in the States is a thing, I think.
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
Over 1000% profit may also have something to do with it.
Nah, it’s because people want drugs.
Super interesting video. I'm belgian and honestly didn't know it was this bad.
Probably because you were too messed up on coke to notice.
your country is so trash and boring and looks disgusting
Have the coke prices been dropping? How much for a key bump?
@@ClaimClam no one buys a key or a bump, you pay €50 for a gram or €25 for 0.5g
as a fellow belgian: van onder welke steen ben jij net gekropen? onze minister van justitie is recentelijk bijna gekidnapped door de drugsmafia en moest ondergedoken leven voor enkele weken, wake up!
the most scary part is belgium is in a continuous state of incompetent politicians, so i wouldn't expect big measures any time soon.
They are part of the globohomo elite
Yeah there was a time around 2020 where we didn't have a proper parliament or whatever for about 2 years straight
Thing is there is way more coke smuggled into Amsterdam , but the authorities just to not catch it. There is a reason Amsterdam has 20 piza shops on a street with no one inside buying pizza and a bunch of mercedes parked outside.
I highly recommend the book “the first and last days on the war on drugs” it’s an extremely well researched book that totally changed my view on what the drug war is, why it exists, how it has never worked. It’s also eye opening on what addiction is in the first place. Did you know that before heroine was illegal, a form of it was commonly enjoyed at fancy high class parties, and yet addiction rates were low. But when desperate poor people turn to it, addiction rates are very high. Hmmm, curious.
Almost like drugs don't just automatically turn people into zombies and the problem is much deeper...
Just in time to numb the pain of the new European reality
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Exactly, addiction is a mental game, a form of trauma escapism.
Agree 100%
Nowadays (and ever since the 1960s!) ALL classes - the rich and wealthy too! - are quite equally susceptible to all kinds of (drug) (ab-)use & addictions. It's this 20th + 21st century "Weltschmerz" we (in the West) are living in - a Sign of the Times...
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The location pointer at 1:03 is not showing Antwerp but Zeebrugge, Antwerp is literally located two provinces to the right at the Schelde river...
(Edit: They fixed it people now it's showing the correct location)
they fused recently. waarom weten zoveel belgen dit niet?
@@finalfan321 Doesnt matter if they fused or not they are located in 2 diffrent places .... even on a map .
Looks like antwerp when I compare it with Google maps. Zeebrugge is on the coast facing the UK, no?
@@lGalaxisl thank you very much for clarifying. I hope you have a fantastic day!
Put 'Wouwse Plantage the Netherlands,' as it says in the video.
Is the video still wrong?
Prohibition doesn’t work. Legalization doesn’t work either. Here in Canada, legalization experiments failed. It is turning the city into a slum. Decriminalization creates a whole wide range of other problems.
which city and legalization experiments exactly?
@@obiwac search for Canadian “safe injection sites”
I live on belgium and this is the first time i heard about this
Great reporting. Great presentation. I wish all news was presented this well, honest, evidence based and careful analysis.
rrrright... a lot of information that needs a lot of checks before you could believe even a half of that, more like duck to me
They wanna make a difference they need to start going after the cops, politicians, and bankers etc that are making this happen just as much as the dealers. They are all complicit but the "legal" guys rarely if ever get arrested.
Trying to solve a health problem with violence has always been ridiculous and wrong. Imagine going to a doctor to talk about your health problem, and the doctor gently placing a gun on the table as you speak.
It ridiculous that this comments gets only 1 like in 9 months. Lots of idiots.
The police uniforms weren’t fake, they were actually stolen from the police station in Haren
why not have some legal avenue to buy drugs so as to lower the market price and therefor killing the profit margin of these traffickers? I don't get our obsession with banning drugs, I get they are bad for people and they can't stop themselves but then why is McDonalds, alcohol and Tabaco legal...
Agree , let people get affordable drugs and all criminals fall down
we would not be productive society if everyone had access to drugs
look at alcohol for example, that is a huge burden on society and health care costs and causes loads of problems
Bro, Stop being logical that's dangerous for you.
@@daliamosesp well we already have access to them, that's why drug traffickers still exist even after century's of criminalization. Didn't you watch the video.
@@daliamosesp then lets apply high sin taxes, greater education and help for drug users and try to curb demand. I also don't want drugs to be widely used but at the end of the day it seems that banning them didn't work.
This pretty much in every capital in the west. It's sad people have just given up on their cities/countries.
Very well done video! Keep ´em coming!
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Lol. What has this to do with the EU? Lol
Can never be stopped. As long as there is a desire for it.
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Now I know why Lukaku missed those shots
"We would like to congratulate DRUGS, for winning the war on drugs" 😏
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
-The war on drugs brought in more drugs
-The war on terrorism brought in more terrorism
...
Maybe it's time for ...for example a war on justice.
@@blanckieification it just appeared to bring in more drugs because some countries did a total crackdown and drug traffickers search new areas
Perhaps the problem is that we're declaring WAR.
Surely we could balance out and create something that makes people feel better than drugs. For instance reasonable jobs with high wages and affordable standard of living so people spend their time working a decent amount and living happily.
@@peeryoutube Name a country that succesfully cracked down on drug trafficking and succesfully eradicated drug crime
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The last time I drove through Antwerp port (about 2 weeks ago in car) the amount of lorry traffic would make it impossible to make any meaningful search of these vehicles, so it certainly won't be stopped at this point.
Talking about Balkan mafia and not mention Serbia is ridiculous.
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Might want to mark it 'Belgium'.
do that right after you work on your grammar
Criminal organizations love to get into businesses that are in high demand,
illegal, and profitable. Only to resolve this would be to legalize it with certain rules and regulations.
How about lowering the demand? I think most sane people wouldn't take these drugs if theiy weren't desperate.
Ya
This is what happens when crime organisations have more competent people than the government itself. Belgian politicians are barely capable of forming a government and running the country, you can't really expect them to take down organised crime any time soon.
nah the most competent ppl run pharmaceutical business that makes legal opioids and amphetamines. Govs just pretend they do stuff - guess who is funding those gov officials elections?
Touché. Well-said.
Representatives from my country (Croatia) in Brussels say that there are no normal politicians there.
It is concerning to hear authorities promoting the war on drugs, very costly and largely ineffective, as well as legalization which don't solve the root causes of ever increasing drug consumption. Primary focus should be given to population's mental health, addressing issues such as trauma, anxiety and depression.
I believe, or rather I have witnessed, how people who consume drugs are disconnected from the consequences of their little moment of fun (not even talking about addicts). Heck I've seen Mexicans doing coke at a party while condemning how their country is destroyed by cartels, as if it happened in a vacuum.
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Excellent work 🙌🏼
The Portuguese model of legalisation and government control of distribution of drugs makes a lot of sense. For the Portuguese, the money saved on not having to fight drug trade was invested in treatment and the use of drugs has dropped along with the existence of a black market. Food for thought
Your talking about Antwerp but you point at Zeebrugge
another Belgian who doesnt know they fused. leest geen enkele Belg het nieuws fozo
Thanks. I was wondering where to make my next trip, but Belgium it is.
Very informative.Thank you Economist !!!
Thank you ? You say thank you for this left magazine. The left is part of all these problems with drugs that Europe and US has.
Instead of spending Billions a year, on an expensive game of whack-a-mole, put the money into rehab programs and try to actually lower drug use. If there's much less demand, it wouldn't be profitable anymore for traffickers.
Or just legalize it.. and all criminal activity would seize to exist.
@@o.mulders2584 Or stop blaming each other and fix fundamental economic problems (starting with the lack of a real economic science).
i dont use drugs of any kind my self but, the amount of drugs that Europeans and US citizens consume or need to go with their lifes makes me think about how socially stable those countries can be
there wouldn't be offer if there was no demand
It’s also sad to think when they (meaning law enforcement and local officials) are so lenient with open air drug sale and drug usage like they are in say Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, New York, and Philadelphia it just makes it harder to fight the cartels and criminal organizations in their native countries which is causing a full blown war in those developing nations it’s a disgusting American trait we have to not mind or care for the problems we cause around the world just for our pleasure
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Very simple! Big number if Albanians from Kosovo staying there
What can be boring about sitting in a brasserie sipping a Duvel and eating a nice dish of steak entrecôte with pomme frite. It's always had a history of diamonds and precious stones trade plus the EU. Quite a entertaining place. And let's not forget it's the birthplace of Hercule Poirot.
The golden years in Belgium are finally Back 🎉
Not a Golden Century but a Snow White Century...
@@dutchman7623 a line a day keeps the docteur away 🥳
You can never trust anyone that’s associated with this drug
Does not matter if you take it or sell it the drug eventually changes the way the person thinks
Like any drug it's abusing them that's the problem. Your blanket statement is just ignorance.
@@liammorris1018 reads more like experience to me
@@liammorris1018 not ignorant, just the hard reality. I don’t think you’d like it if I were to send you to a heart surgery performed by a surgeon who’s a crackhead. I’d take off those rose-tinted glasses if I were you
Dear Economist.. may I humbly ask for a wee bit more focus whilst editing your youtube episodes?
You could be forgiven for saying ‘this is Antwerp’ while you actually show Zeebruges on the map. But featuring footage from the DUTCH police and presenting it as Belgian is well below the standards of your outlet. Standards that you were and indeed are respected for.
I agree. They were talking about the economies of western balkans countries being destroyed while showing a photo of Bosniaks in a concentration camp... disgusting 🤮🇧🇦
they didnt say they where Belgian though, and if you look in the bottom right corner you see that they even specify the location as the Netherlands.
Dear Economist Bauke BALJEU, what did they get wrong with that footage?
It says in the 'Wouwse Plantage the Netherlands' in the video.
Where is 'Wouwse Plantage - the Netherlands?'
Does it match the map in the video?
Didn't they say in the video, "just outside the Belgian Port of Antwerp?"
Is 'Wouwse Plantage the Netherlands' "just outside the Belgian Port of Antwerp?"
I'd say that about 30km is "just outside the Belgian Port of Antwerp?"
Did they say it was in Belgium?
Did they say it was Belgian police?
Just because it wasn't in Belgium doesn't mean that the activities aren't associated with the Port of Antwerp.
Very interesting and informative video.
If you go to Brussels recently- it speaks for itself . I was shocked when I visited a few years back .
I come from Berlin and even I was shocked how bad Brussels situation is in comparison.
@@nel5518 Really? Even in the 90's I was shocked that even in a small town like Wuppertall I got approached by drug dealers the moment I stepped out of the train. The police box there closed at 10 P.M., so business was booming after that. Now compare it to a capital city like Brussels ... but to be fair, things have gone down the drain the last few decades for sure.
I dimiss this characterization of South America and the Western Balkans as intrinsically barbaric and somehow “with a higher tolerance for violence”. People are not inately more violent than others but pushed to be so because of factors beyond their control, including extreme poverty. If “Europeans”, i.e. Belgians, are so much more civilized, then how come uneducated, “violent” people are outsmarting politicians and officials left and right?
Because of the correct skin color and faith!
unfortunately we live in a world full of hypocrisy where the mainstream media constantly lies to us. People from the Balkans and South America are only the perpetrators and those who die in police actions, while the main dealers are in suits, respectable gentlemen from "civilized Europe". Therefore, no police action has any impact on supply chains. Governments of Western Europe and America should stop dealing drugs if they don't want drugs
The economist doesn't even know where antwerp is
To be fair, neither do the French.
How so?
What they don't say is that around 75% of police in Belgium is corrupt in this buisness
What a BS
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so they spent less than a minute in the end of the video to explain the actual viable solution, given the rest are only growing spendings and corruption.
Can increase the customs/police budgets endlessly - the corruption will only grow. The legalization and proper medical treatment is the key.
Before, it was Rotterdam (Netherlands) that was considered the main entry-point of all drugs. Now, finally, Belgium is on top of the Netherlands in something
Aaah yes, Belgium, my favorite city.
Let them in with open arms, protect them, make sure they bring quality products only, give them warehouse facilities, but just tax them 6% VAT tax ... it will solve Belgium's debt within two years. Ah, before I forget, give them citizenship since they have invested and have rights to obtain a gold visa.
They all repeat like a parrot the politically correct statement “war on drugs cannot be won as a war.” That’s only because the West doesn’t have the guts to win that war. We don’t want to have a police state. We are very compassionate and tolerate crime. It is a trade off. We believe that we are better off living in a free and tolerant society instead of a crime free society that is oppressive. We tolerate crime in order to have a free and compassionate society. The war on drugs can be won. Look at places like China and Singapore. Because of their sad history with drugs, in Asia, there are countries that do not tolerate drug trafficking and drug dealing and go after them seriously and punish them severely. It works. In the West, we don’t want to be a society that punishes crime severely, and, as a result we have to live with the consequences. In the USA, most of the homeless are people whose brains have been permanently damaged by drugs. The impact on the society is enormous. And it is a consequence of the choices we make as a society. We will see in the next 50 years which approach will win: free, tolerant, compassionate Western societies that tolerate lawlessness or totalitarian police states that do not tolerate crime and punish criminals and lawlessness severely with little compassion. To be honest, it is hard to predict the winner. It can go either way.
U are quite the mentally ill liberal arent u?
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The criminals , the politicians in Belgium and European Union bureaucrats in Brussels have it the way they want and profit the most , it suits them the way things are , why should they change anything ?
Why should they pay Belgium's debt with their own money when they have the tax payers to do it ?
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Drug trafficking is a problem in every continent, different continent different kinds of illegal drugs.
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Dus gij sossnuiver gaat het zo dan wel oplossen?
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bart de weever is echt een idioot.
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