2016 TaylorMade M2 and the R580xd with upgraded shaft has been the longest so far for me. Still waiting for the new one to come out that makes me spend money. Great video.
They have the Qi10 for use at my driving range. They are all noticeably scuffed along the crown. They look very shabby. I assume because of the full carbon crown as opposed to the titanium crown on the Stealth 2.
Can you explain why? Also what shaft stiffness? I'm genuinely just curious because I am actively going to be hitting these clubs and want others opinions as well.
I also had all 3. I have just purchased the Stealth 2. I had the Qi10. I wasn't impressed, the head was too big for me. I like the original Stealth at the moment. We will see how I feel about the Stealth 2 when it arrives. I have hit it in a demo but wasn't too impressed. We'll see, at least I'll have a great backup club.
Need help. Was using my old TaylorMade R7 Limited edition 12+ years, hitting around 270. Finally invested in a new club, the QI10 standard, now max I can get is 250. Can anyone help me understand this?
Way too much variance in this guy's delivery and strike to draw any meaningful conclusion, especially with range balls. His first ball with the stealth was 158 bs with 109 chs, and then 114 chs with 168 bs with the QI10, which is all due to his variance. The reality is that the carbon face was a marketing gimmick (visual tech) because the MOI of the OG stealth and Stealth 2 was lower than the SIM2. The QI10 because it has more carbon than the SIM2 is more forgiving in terms of MOI. We are at the point where it takes 5 or more years to see meaningful differences if you were actually fit for a driver rather than bought one off the rack because your favorite tour pro plays one.
I'm about to buy a driver and I have been using my dad's 16 year old TaylorMade Burner Superspeed from I think 2008 lmao. It's a 10.5 degree stiff and I hit it well! (Well is subjective but it ranges from 240 to 275) Butttttttt I did just go for my first fitting. My spin rate was average from 3000 to 3800 with a club speed of 115 to 124 with that club. I had NO IDEA that spin rate translated to distance (embarrassing LOL). So again back to my fitting -- I tried out a Titleist and Ping and the spin rate for a 9.0 and 9.5 degree extra stiff went all the way down to 1800 to 2400. Then I went for the fitters demo of even newer drivers and tried out a Ping (the one with the cool grooves on the top, and the Titleist, i dont remember the name sorry), I hit like 20 balls each and they were just alright. Some hooked left, some hit the heel and went skyhook to the right, and some straight. The pro handed me the 9 degree TaylorMade Qi10 LS and I completely smashed it with a straight to slight draw around 275ish in air. Prior to 2nd hit, he altered the club to a 9.5 degree but draw face and it went ever further with a very slight push to draw. His literal response was "Yeah okay I've seen enough, this is it" -- I don't think that was a salesman pitch because this guy helped me customize my irons for very very very cheap. So I think this Qi10 is the real deal. It felt like I was hitting butter lol. As someone who SHOULD golf more (I probably go 3 times a year and am around an 82 stroke) that Qi10 was easily the best feeling driver I've ever hit in me life. Not even bullshitting lol. It's so clean and smooth. Granted, it was only 2 shots but they were insane. He can give me a $100 discount to get it for $500, but I'm about to try out my buddies Stealth Plus, literally today at the range to see what the differences are, because money.
Love the multi-year comparison series. They’re always great.
Gaming the Qi10 and it’s been my favorite driver in recent memory.
Love to hear it!!
2016 TaylorMade M2 and the R580xd with upgraded shaft has been the longest so far for me.
Still waiting for the new one to come out that makes me spend money.
Great video.
Hey John, what shaft did you upgrade to?
@@Anthony-bx5yk TaylorMade M2 or the older R540-580s ?
@@johnnewcomb5162 the older R580s
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@@2ndswing knew you guys over there would be on top of it!
They have the Qi10 for use at my driving range. They are all noticeably scuffed along the crown. They look very shabby. I assume because of the full carbon crown as opposed to the titanium crown on the Stealth 2.
The crown on the Stealth 2 is also carbon, just has a glossy finish as compared to the matte finish on the original Stealth
If random people are hitting them on a driving range yiu can bet there are hitting that cruel with balls
It’s because it’s used on driveing range. Hacks hitting it more than anything
I have a stealth a stealth 2 and a qi10 Max and I like the original stealth the best
Can you explain why? Also what shaft stiffness? I'm genuinely just curious because I am actively going to be hitting these clubs and want others opinions as well.
I also had all 3. I have just purchased the Stealth 2. I had the Qi10. I wasn't impressed, the head was too big for me. I like the original Stealth at the moment. We will see how I feel about the Stealth 2 when it arrives. I have hit it in a demo but wasn't too impressed. We'll see, at least I'll have a great backup club.
Really does not look like 110 club head speed?
Need help. Was using my old TaylorMade R7 Limited edition 12+ years, hitting around 270. Finally invested in a new club, the QI10 standard, now max I can get is 250. Can anyone help me understand this?
Also fairways are not hit anymore either.
This is quite surprising. Do you have loft and shaft specs from each driver?
Should have hit the monitor, almost every shop has one before you buy the club.
It's hard to say too many variables.
Which is more draw bias?
The problem, I sent back 2 stealth 2 plus drivers because of the carbon face coming unglued.
wow, you're the second person that I know of. I heard there were few problems with Stealth drivers, I will stay away from the Carbon Face.
My stealth 1 just had this same issue.
Way too much variance in this guy's delivery and strike to draw any meaningful conclusion, especially with range balls. His first ball with the stealth was 158 bs with 109 chs, and then 114 chs with 168 bs with the QI10, which is all due to his variance. The reality is that the carbon face was a marketing gimmick (visual tech) because the MOI of the OG stealth and Stealth 2 was lower than the SIM2. The QI10 because it has more carbon than the SIM2 is more forgiving in terms of MOI. We are at the point where it takes 5 or more years to see meaningful differences if you were actually fit for a driver rather than bought one off the rack because your favorite tour pro plays one.
I'm about to buy a driver and I have been using my dad's 16 year old TaylorMade Burner Superspeed from I think 2008 lmao. It's a 10.5 degree stiff and I hit it well! (Well is subjective but it ranges from 240 to 275) Butttttttt I did just go for my first fitting. My spin rate was average from 3000 to 3800 with a club speed of 115 to 124 with that club. I had NO IDEA that spin rate translated to distance (embarrassing LOL).
So again back to my fitting -- I tried out a Titleist and Ping and the spin rate for a 9.0 and 9.5 degree extra stiff went all the way down to 1800 to 2400. Then I went for the fitters demo of even newer drivers and tried out a Ping (the one with the cool grooves on the top, and the Titleist, i dont remember the name sorry), I hit like 20 balls each and they were just alright. Some hooked left, some hit the heel and went skyhook to the right, and some straight. The pro handed me the 9 degree TaylorMade Qi10 LS and I completely smashed it with a straight to slight draw around 275ish in air. Prior to 2nd hit, he altered the club to a 9.5 degree but draw face and it went ever further with a very slight push to draw. His literal response was "Yeah okay I've seen enough, this is it" -- I don't think that was a salesman pitch because this guy helped me customize my irons for very very very cheap. So I think this Qi10 is the real deal.
It felt like I was hitting butter lol. As someone who SHOULD golf more (I probably go 3 times a year and am around an 82 stroke) that Qi10 was easily the best feeling driver I've ever hit in me life. Not even bullshitting lol. It's so clean and smooth. Granted, it was only 2 shots but they were insane. He can give me a $100 discount to get it for $500, but I'm about to try out my buddies Stealth Plus, literally today at the range to see what the differences are, because money.
Range balls create more spin
Same clubs. No differences