SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI V Vengeance a Nahobino one turn kill idea

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this reddit post gave a good suggestion so im testing it out and it smacks. Could probably get the one turn if baal got hit with a debuff or if satan was -2. [This was done on hard mode]

[@crutun]

if you keep using this tactic you could use yoshitsune and have him use a random gem that satan nulls in order to get an extra full icon

[@LotsoOP]

Very nice! I did something similar just a bit ago with Paraselene blur. With about 250str, you CAN one-turn-kill him on normal mode. You do need to have him eat one of his demons that is weak to light, tho (like Kaiwan).
My set up was Blur, Mirage, light pleroma, high light pleroma, murderous glee, bloody glee, intercalation, and enduring soul.
With him at -2 all stats, weak to light, and me +2 all stats, you can actually do a one-turn-kill. It does require a bit of RNG with crits, perhaps, and I don't have a way to record on my PS5, but I was able to pull it off on I believe the last or second to last paraselene blur that actually hits him.

[@elysisolnoxvarix2183]

I did it with 500 str or so on Hard +1/-1 iirc. It doesn't even require a weakness to Light at that point, just getting some luck with crits

[@Kerem-mf9oy]

​@@elysisolnoxvarix2183... There's a BIG difference between 250 STR and 500 STR.

[@elysisolnoxvarix2183]

@@Kerem-mf9oy yeah i'm just saying you can do it though

[@kaiserkreuz2110]

Okay, now that's a shot I can get behind of. Too bad he ate Hariti in the end (I can only imagine how the next turn went...)

[@KoriKitsune]

Was experimenting with something similar, but using masakado and strategize, on godborn on hard difficulty. But man. Critting everyone consistently no problem, except satan now with Masakados aoe murakumo. Hitting his summons for 26k damage, but satan only says nope and takes 10k from the crit. And then suddenly not critting twice in a row, despite maxing Masakados crit rate, and, with the latter attempt, even summoning lucifer to passively grant even more crit rate, but to no avail. Maybe I too should try a figment slash build. Didnt know that figment slash has 100% hit rate when foes are maximally debilitated while oneself is maximally buffed.

[@fitfitter95]

I don't think that is the case. You def need dragon eye (or is it beast eye? Or both?) to pull off consistent figment slashes.

[@ils4844]

@@fitfitter95 It's generally been thought that the 20%+ increases that the base auto skills give like the early pleromas and stuff like poison adept aren't worth it, lategame at least unless you're into insane minmaxing on your damage. I've been mainly running dragon eye only and while yes, miss chance is still present, it's significantly less and wiffing a hit isn't too common unlike when you're running basic figment slash with nothing helping with hit chance. Beast eye is basically extra padding for the extremely concerned.
Then again I still haven't gotten to godborn so we'll see how bad that goes when I get there.

[@homerlol9058]

Damn

[@crabmayo]

How much agility do you need to land every single figment slash?

[@elysisolnoxvarix2183]

Agility has no real effect on hit rate. You need Beast Eye, Dragon Eye, max buffs and max debuffs and you'll always hit