@@Lillstisse661 there is tracks outside DFC which handles double stack containers in state of rajasthan, other than that it's just normal electrified tracks
@@Lillstisse661No, they are increasing the height clearance outside of Dedicated freight corridors too but it's done very slowly and very few states are doing it
It is important to remember that there are two kinds of intermodal traffic. North America excels in long-haul shipping, with many containers going from a port on one ocean to a port on another ocean. Japan, Europe, and especially the British Isles, intermodal is a short-haul operation from port to trucking terminal. The average Japanese freight shipment is about six miles! -- From truck to port, and that's it. That's one reason Freightliner was less successful than Dr. Beeching & Co. promised, and why passenger service dominates the British Isles.
@@tim19962 - I find that hard to believe. The Swiss government seems to be focused on forcing Europe to shift to containerized rail freight in order to lessen truck (lorry) volume on their highways.
@@lws7394 Dr Beeching Era didn't have Channel Tunnel. From what I understand it was actual subsidiaries to focus on. Passenger was more bet on. We could make another Channel tunnel taller for Freight only if we want to.
1:05 "Or lorry, depending on how British your feeling." As someone who's developed a British accent in recent years, don't mind if I do! I've actually been using container trucks in my Thomas videos for quite a while now, and those flatbeds are now the most common modern truck to be featured on my goods train consists.
Intermodals (or pig trains as we like to call em) are also some of the most desirable jobs for railcrews. Because you usually just get on double up the train and ride for a few hours without hardly stopping. Every other train and dispatcher knows you dont stop a pig train because outside other bulk commodity trains those are the ones that make the big money
The long distance of western usa the overhead wires can be knocked out due to weather. A two way locomotive is need diesal with ability run on overhead or third rail when power is out they can run on diesal😊
I’m a bit upset that the well cars replaced the boxcars because it’s my favorite rail car but I’m still glad to see people using Boxcars like on the Grimes Branch
Being able to double stack containers is what makes cargo rail competitive, if you can only have one container high trains the weight is nowhere near the maximum axle load even on low axle load railways like the 22,5 ton railways in Europe. Stora Enso developed the SECU container which is larger and they use it to transport paper on Swedish railways, it utilises the bigger loading gauge "Lastprofil C" and 25 ton axle load to the fullest. P.s. I'm sorry but your Railway is in another castle !
Prob the large loading gauge. When you compare US and European locos and rolling stock, the size difference is massive, even if they use the same gauge.
The US only has a large loading gauge outside the North East. Look at the C3 railcar of the LIRR or the bilevels operating on the NEC, they're 20 cm or 8 inches less tall than typical European bi-level passenger trains. It mostly has to do with the time that the railways (and especially tunnels) were built. The earlier, the smaller the loading gauge. That's why the pioneer in railways, England, has one of the smallest loading gauges.
5:32 double stacks are actually pretty rare in australia. outside of the trans-australian railway between adelaide and perth, there isnt much of any double stacks down here. all of the east coast is run with single stack container trains. although, right now there is a project going on called Inland Rail, where they're upgrading the mainline from melbourne to brisbane (including new sections of track being built across central NSW) which will allow double stacks to run in eastern australia for the first time.
While Its not the same, the Road-rail system deserves a mention. Basically strapping wheels to the containers and then driving off with them. Their days are almost done, but its a unique take on this.
i work in rail intermodal for a class 1 up north coming from trucking & warehouse distro, this was an eye opener in terms of economies of scale those damn trains choo choo at more than 10,000 ft long nowadays a behemoth long line of cool double stacked metal boxes
Railroads first tried to move the trailers of transport trucks on flatcars, then using other methods, but while this worked for moving of cargo from one American land-based site to another, it did not facilitate ship transportation very well, so containers came into use so shipping could be optimized.
3:35 Reminds me of when British Railways built large marshalling yards to have wagon cars to be sorted economically but only to have them mostly empty because of the growing trend of costs on the roads and containerized freight.
To expand of Australia using double stack containers, there is currently a project stretching from Melbourne to Brisbane which one of the things it’s for is to allow for double stack containers for the entire route (as well as being the same gauge)
RoLa trains are also very common at least in europe, instead of loading containers onto flatcrars and then onto flatbed trucks, they sometimes load the entire semi-trailer of a truck onto the train and that can more easily be attached to a semi and driven away without the need for gantry cranes
For me, I’ve been interested more in the TOFC/piggyback side of things for about two years now. So much so, I created a map of over 800 trailers originally owned by the railroads, most of which are in storage. I find it interesting how similar but different the two are.
I’ve seen a few of the original Sealand first generation well cars on CSX trains recently. They’re definitely a nice change of pace from the normal wellcars.
0:48 now yes at a single glance it mightve seemed, cheaper but the true costs were heavy subsidising on roadways aswell as sort of like now labour costs being cut due to literally 30% energy inefficiency compared to steel on steel
Interestingly about the PRR Containers, two of those old containers still survive as storage sheds. Most prominent one I know of is currently in Mingo Junction, Ohio inside the former PRR(Now NS) yard there ironically right next to the old oil house!
I'm not sure if this is true or not but I've heard that in the US some of the containers never get opened here. They just cross the continent due to time or cost constraints at the Panema canal.
I'd just like to point out one very minor thing. On the data you show on the graphic at 06:04, you are correct that 60-footers are in Canada only, but you could have worded the next statement a little differently. Domestic containers don't have to stay within origin country, but they do stay within the continent of North America. This is because North America went ahead with 102" wide (which is the standard for truck-trailer width in North America), while all other countries, and hence, international containers (20, 40, 45) have remained with the older standard of 96" width. However, the spacing for the holes on the containers (where locating or lifting pins fit) is the same, no matter which design will be built. And... Fun fact... You will never see 20' containers on the top row of a stack train. The only way that proper securing can happen, is with 2 - 20's in the bottom of a well car, with a 40' or larger seated and secured on the top. Another fun fact... You COULD potentially ship a 53 (or a 60) internationally, but they could only sit on the very top row and would likely only be placed every second stack with nothing between, due to the overlength and overwidth. Dealing with it would then be another headache to be overcome in the destination country.
Don't forget that the 53.ft boxes are for North America only like the States and Canada because the truckers can stretch there chassis from 40 45 to 53 those 40.ft ones you see on the train are mostly from Asia and Europe
NYC invested heavily in this concept. So heavily that when other railroads did not immediately join in, they ran into financial problems. Which is why they merged with the PRR to form the Penn Central. Which ran into its own problems. The Penn Central Holding Company used the railroad's profits for other ventures - which failed, forcing a bankruptcy and helped the creation of Conrail. NOTE: through all of its existence - including through the BK - The Penn Central Railroad NEVER failed to turn a profit.
Well, my grand-stepdad was a former trucker at the time, but sometimes; my dad told me that he used to haul intermodal from other CSX’s territory railroads, from the harbor of Port of Baltimore; one of our largest port of the East Coast. At first; (Economics) is a banger, although I am displeased and not approval for ‘LONGER TRAINS’ it’s because due to a very specific of a term known ‘PSR’ issued, it was a barbaric decision. While they had to their destinations, connections to port terminals, international harbors, shipping facilities. Surely back in those days, it was a hard time since the Great Recession. Sometimes ‘accidents happen’ with our sweet, rectangular built, colorful, fundamentally loaded of steel containers to get your own country, like (America) is become a popular with financial markets to the Wall Street.
Intermodal is cool and I had no idea it went back so far. Though I have to wonder why it containers didn't take off in the US for so much longer compared to Europe?
(South) Kearny, NJ is pronounced like "carny." I don't know why either. I pass along the edge of that yard on the PATH every day, where Conrail Shared Assets is in the midst of replacing the Point No Point Bridge over the Passaic River. Best-named bridge in the US? Probably.
One big downside of containers (especially on well cars) is how space inefficient they are to load and unload compared to boxcars. Containers (at least the most common ones) can only be unloaded from the ends and often only one so it can only be loaded back to front. So for every container you need a spot on a wall to park it. Boxcars with side doors double that end to end loading, but also can be passed through so instead of a line along one wall you can make a multiple lines with boards in between cars so you can put more cars in one place. This is how the big factories in East Coast cities were so able to move as much product as they could while not being as massive as modern warehouses which need to be to have such a huge wall for trucks to back up to. Now there are side loading containers, but they are uncommon and even then I've never seen a boxcar style one with doors on two sides, just ones that one like a curtainside trailer. But if you did then you could get this same efficiency on a flatcar. There is also a downside that a container adds more weight over a standard van trailer or boxcar, for many products like finished goods this loss in profitable weight is often worth the ease of exchange, but for bulk goods a little bit of weight is a lot of lost profit. This is why stuff like coal, grain and oil is usually still transported in dedicated cars. That and they can be transferred easier either though pipes as a "liquid" like for grain and oil or because you don't have to be as careful with it like coal.
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It's a boxcar, but the box and the car are seprate now
containers are fun, they are cool rectangles
Erm its actually a rectagonal prism
I think they are circles (joke)
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Pretty colors too
Fucking gospel right here
5:36 don't forget that india not just run double stack trains on flatbed but also electrified it
But isn't that only on dedicated freight corridors?
@@Lillstisse661 there is tracks outside DFC which handles double stack containers in state of rajasthan, other than that it's just normal electrified tracks
@@Lillstisse661No, they are increasing the height clearance outside of Dedicated freight corridors too but it's done very slowly and very few states are doing it
Dont they also run triple stacks on highrise overhead lines?
@@polandballrbx9954 no, those triple stack containers are just dwarf containers which are smaller than normal containers
It is important to remember that there are two kinds of intermodal traffic. North America excels in long-haul shipping, with many containers going from a port on one ocean to a port on another ocean. Japan, Europe, and especially the British Isles, intermodal is a short-haul operation from port to trucking terminal. The average Japanese freight shipment is about six miles! -- From truck to port, and that's it. That's one reason Freightliner was less successful than Dr. Beeching & Co. promised, and why passenger service dominates the British Isles.
The reason the uk and europe dont have more container trains is purely track capacity
@@tim19962 - I find that hard to believe. The Swiss government seems to be focused on forcing Europe to shift to containerized rail freight in order to lessen truck (lorry) volume on their highways.
Purely freight legislation
@@gerogyzurkov2259 Tunnels. Tunnel dimensions in Europe are too low for double stack containers. The same for overhead lines.
@@lws7394 Dr Beeching Era didn't have Channel Tunnel. From what I understand it was actual subsidiaries to focus on. Passenger was more bet on. We could make another Channel tunnel taller for Freight only if we want to.
Didn’t know amtrakguy365 was a truck and ship youtuber
He multitasks when theres no content available or news
1:05 "Or lorry, depending on how British your feeling."
As someone who's developed a British accent in recent years, don't mind if I do! I've actually been using container trucks in my Thomas videos for quite a while now, and those flatbeds are now the most common modern truck to be featured on my goods train consists.
I like how we all just agreed on a standard box for shipping things in, it's rather convenient.
5:38 those F40's are awesome looking!
Duuude fun fact: containers were actually developed by
huh who
he knew too much
aliens. It was aliens, wasn't it?
Intermodals (or pig trains as we like to call em) are also some of the most desirable jobs for railcrews. Because you usually just get on double up the train and ride for a few hours without hardly stopping. Every other train and dispatcher knows you dont stop a pig train because outside other bulk commodity trains those are the ones that make the big money
I love your thumbnails
Thank you Dutch Van Der Linde from Red Dead Redemption 2
@@AmtrakGuy365 can you sing poker face as Dutch Van Der Linde from Red Dead Redemption 2?
@@AmtrakGuy365 Your welcome remember the camp gets its share
Wtf @@Alawo-
@@AbelG8781 don’t go dissing a good idea
They don't mean we still can't electrify the American mainline. Just build the wires higher up!
The long distance of western usa the overhead wires can be knocked out due to weather. A two way locomotive is need diesal with ability run on overhead or third rail when power is out they can run on diesal😊
@@richardhetrick4770 ever heard of the Milwaukee Road?
Intermodal containers are greatly efficient. They're quite convenient too. Thanks for documenting the intermodal part of railways.
Every day I always see a Pacific national freight train passing by my hometown in Australia
Same they are so long
Same here,
but in my case they right behind my back fence,
1:06 or “Horrid Lorry” more like
Wish he had mention the upchallenger catch with the intermodal train
I’m a bit upset that the well cars replaced the boxcars because it’s my favorite rail car but I’m still glad to see people using Boxcars like on the Grimes Branch
They are used for different purposes. Containers are used for intermodal. Boxcars for monomodal. Paper factories use boxcars a lot.
These timeline and explanation videos are fantastic, I love your simple easy-to-follow editing.
Being able to double stack containers is what makes cargo rail competitive, if you can only have one container high trains the weight is nowhere near the maximum axle load even on low axle load railways like the 22,5 ton railways in Europe.
Stora Enso developed the SECU container which is larger and they use it to transport paper on Swedish railways, it utilises the bigger loading gauge "Lastprofil C" and 25 ton axle load to the fullest.
P.s. I'm sorry but your Railway is in another castle !
Norfolk Southern.
What's your function
Hooking up the country helping business run
Hookin Up the Country
Screwing up our country with our business run
Hold on you know cargo moving people from N&w well I have a NS version
Thank you for the subject of containers. It does raise the question on why did the USA have very high height restrictions compared to Europe.
Prob the large loading gauge. When you compare US and European locos and rolling stock, the size difference is massive, even if they use the same gauge.
The US only has a large loading gauge outside the North East. Look at the C3 railcar of the LIRR or the bilevels operating on the NEC, they're 20 cm or 8 inches less tall than typical European bi-level passenger trains.
It mostly has to do with the time that the railways (and especially tunnels) were built. The earlier, the smaller the loading gauge. That's why the pioneer in railways, England, has one of the smallest loading gauges.
As an Italian, I can confirm intermodal trains are pretty much everywhere. (Even on my local line before a landslide struck)
5:30 OLE in of itself isn’t prohibitive of double-stacked containers and India clearly demonstrates.
I always see a lot of these at ebj Union station at Dallas as well as on the cpkc and Wylie and occasionally in Plano for detours
That is the most detailed thumbnail I've ever seen for a train related video. Excellent job!
5:32 double stacks are actually pretty rare in australia. outside of the trans-australian railway between adelaide and perth, there isnt much of any double stacks down here. all of the east coast is run with single stack container trains. although, right now there is a project going on called Inland Rail, where they're upgrading the mainline from melbourne to brisbane (including new sections of track being built across central NSW) which will allow double stacks to run in eastern australia for the first time.
These containers have traveled more than me
Early Locomotives: Nah, I’d Win
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While Its not the same, the Road-rail system deserves a mention. Basically strapping wheels to the containers and then driving off with them. Their days are almost done, but its a unique take on this.
The Box: How the Shipping Container....... by Marc Levinson. Great book. Explains it all.
Nice share friend
@AmtrakGuy365 this is one of my new favorite video that you have made!!!
6:11
Liver
Just recently did I see a couple CN intermodals run through the prairie towns of Saskatchewan, it seemingly happens every while
OUTSTANDING VIDEO! One of my favorite type trains🔥🔥🔥🙏👍👍
1:05 I feel British enough to even say: "Cargo carrying diesel-powered motor vehicle".. or "Lorry"
This video single handedly made me start liking container cars! I gotta get some for my layout!
i work in rail intermodal for a class 1 up north
coming from trucking & warehouse distro, this was an eye opener in terms of economies of scale
those damn trains choo choo at more than 10,000 ft long nowadays
a behemoth long line of cool double stacked metal boxes
I work at Chelmsford Railway Station in the UK and every day I see container trains going to and from Felixstowe Port.
Railroads first tried to move the trailers of transport trucks on flatcars, then using other methods, but while this worked for moving of cargo from one American land-based site to another, it did not facilitate ship transportation very well, so containers came into use so shipping could be optimized.
So this is why every single day a stack train passes through
Container trains are the best! So proud of its popularity. Glad they're so popular I mean.
Those trains are relaxin' & geometric & oh they're for clearing.
I like how Flowey is in the video
3:35 Reminds me of when British Railways built large marshalling yards to have wagon cars to be sorted economically but only to have them mostly empty because of the growing trend of costs on the roads and containerized freight.
To expand of Australia using double stack containers, there is currently a project stretching from Melbourne to Brisbane which one of the things it’s for is to allow for double stack containers for the entire route (as well as being the same gauge)
HEY . GT/CN had use Well cars for Piggyback Trailer. Because St.Cair Tunnel. Wasn't Tall for Standard TOFC Flat Cars & AutoRakes & Big Tall Boxcars
RoLa trains are also very common at least in europe, instead of loading containers onto flatcrars and then onto flatbed trucks, they sometimes load the entire semi-trailer of a truck onto the train and that can more easily be attached to a semi and driven away without the need for gantry cranes
6:43 Sadly UP 6706 shown here is sadly going to be Rebuilt and loose her aging CNW Colors.
Container trains or something like this are serene and cubic type trains !
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For me, I’ve been interested more in the TOFC/piggyback side of things for about two years now. So much so, I created a map of over 800 trailers originally owned by the railroads, most of which are in storage. I find it interesting how similar but different the two are.
I’ve seen a few of the original Sealand first generation well cars on CSX trains recently. They’re definitely a nice change of pace from the normal wellcars.
Did engie get included with my sentry gun?
CSX has a special decorative container that says ONE COMMUNITY ONE PURPOSE. I saw it on CSX I157 on the end of that train.
Behold the container express!
I'll never forget the time UP 3985 hauled that long container train
Now I know why container trains are so common.
Can you do DMUS next
0:48 now yes at a single glance it mightve seemed, cheaper but the true costs were heavy subsidising on roadways aswell as sort of like now labour costs being cut due to literally 30% energy inefficiency compared to steel on steel
Interestingly about the PRR Containers, two of those old containers still survive as storage sheds. Most prominent one I know of is currently in Mingo Junction, Ohio inside the former PRR(Now NS) yard there ironically right next to the old oil house!
Love the content also ur close to hitting 100k subs.Keep up the work man!
5:25 hey wait a second...
I'm not sure if this is true or not but I've heard that in the US some of the containers never get opened here. They just cross the continent due to time or cost constraints at the Panema canal.
Intermodal brought back color to the railway.
I'd love to see a video on how those trains that go from the UK all the way to China would work. They sound both really cool and really complicated.
Excellent production!
awesome vid like always
Double stack well cars as a concept date back to the mid 60s but no one wanted to be the first to make them.
I'd just like to point out one very minor thing. On the data you show on the graphic at 06:04, you are correct that 60-footers are in Canada only, but you could have worded the next statement a little differently. Domestic containers don't have to stay within origin country, but they do stay within the continent of North America.
This is because North America went ahead with 102" wide (which is the standard for truck-trailer width in North America), while all other countries, and hence, international containers (20, 40, 45) have remained with the older standard of 96" width. However, the spacing for the holes on the containers (where locating or lifting pins fit) is the same, no matter which design will be built.
And... Fun fact... You will never see 20' containers on the top row of a stack train. The only way that proper securing can happen, is with 2 - 20's in the bottom of a well car, with a 40' or larger seated and secured on the top.
Another fun fact... You COULD potentially ship a 53 (or a 60) internationally, but they could only sit on the very top row and would likely only be placed every second stack with nothing between, due to the overlength and overwidth. Dealing with it would then be another headache to be overcome in the destination country.
1:13 the thing i sit on while i ponder the rws lore
1:14 GIVE ME THAT THOMAS COACH!
1:15
I don't think I would want a piano trying to eat me
5:33 NR29 currently is in the Indian Pacific livery
Very nice video!
Wait, you have HO scale Grand Trunk Locomotive? COOL.
Nice i loove them good job Jared
6:30 I saw a mere lot of Chinese shipping containers whilst passing Ferencváros railyard in Budapest, Hungary.
You forgot the old German “von haus zu haus” containers.
Don't forget that the 53.ft boxes are for North America only like the States and Canada because the truckers can stretch there chassis from 40 45 to 53 those 40.ft ones you see on the train are mostly from Asia and Europe
very interesting and well done learned a lot
F height restrictions who needs highway overpasses anyways, we need triple stacks... make it quad stacks!
NYC invested heavily in this concept. So heavily that when other railroads did not immediately join in, they ran into financial problems. Which is why they merged with the PRR to form the Penn Central. Which ran into its own problems. The Penn Central Holding Company used the railroad's profits for other ventures - which failed, forcing a bankruptcy and helped the creation of Conrail. NOTE: through all of its existence - including through the BK - The Penn Central Railroad NEVER failed to turn a profit.
Great video,
Me as a brazilian, some parts here are just with single stack load due to the eletrefication on some lines of CPTM railway
Great video
Well, my grand-stepdad was a former trucker at the time, but sometimes; my dad told me that he used to haul intermodal from other CSX’s territory railroads, from the harbor of Port of Baltimore; one of our largest port of the East Coast.
At first; (Economics) is a banger, although I am displeased and not approval for ‘LONGER TRAINS’ it’s because due to a very specific of a term known ‘PSR’ issued, it was a barbaric decision. While they had to their destinations, connections to port terminals, international harbors, shipping facilities. Surely back in those days, it was a hard time since the Great Recession.
Sometimes ‘accidents happen’ with our sweet, rectangular built, colorful, fundamentally loaded of steel containers to get your own country, like (America) is become a popular with financial markets to the Wall Street.
I love your video you made.
Intermodal is cool and I had no idea it went back so far. Though I have to wonder why it containers didn't take off in the US for so much longer compared to Europe?
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Virgin Intermodal Container train vs. Chad Tobacco Hogshead Train.
very nice!
Love your thumbnail!
Fun fact: Freightliner is approaching 10 years (in 2025) as a Genesee and Wyoming company (bought 2015).
I love your videos!!!
(South) Kearny, NJ is pronounced like "carny." I don't know why either. I pass along the edge of that yard on the PATH every day, where Conrail Shared Assets is in the midst of replacing the Point No Point Bridge over the Passaic River. Best-named bridge in the US? Probably.
Love the thumbnail!
One big downside of containers (especially on well cars) is how space inefficient they are to load and unload compared to boxcars. Containers (at least the most common ones) can only be unloaded from the ends and often only one so it can only be loaded back to front. So for every container you need a spot on a wall to park it. Boxcars with side doors double that end to end loading, but also can be passed through so instead of a line along one wall you can make a multiple lines with boards in between cars so you can put more cars in one place.
This is how the big factories in East Coast cities were so able to move as much product as they could while not being as massive as modern warehouses which need to be to have such a huge wall for trucks to back up to.
Now there are side loading containers, but they are uncommon and even then I've never seen a boxcar style one with doors on two sides, just ones that one like a curtainside trailer. But if you did then you could get this same efficiency on a flatcar.
There is also a downside that a container adds more weight over a standard van trailer or boxcar, for many products like finished goods this loss in profitable weight is often worth the ease of exchange, but for bulk goods a little bit of weight is a lot of lost profit. This is why stuff like coal, grain and oil is usually still transported in dedicated cars. That and they can be transferred easier either though pipes as a "liquid" like for grain and oil or because you don't have to be as careful with it like coal.
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