Erose - Apophenia [31edo]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- "We endlessly transmute fragments of sensory chaos into beautiful mosaics, bringing them into order under the affliction of meaning."
some chimecore in 31edo
Apophenia is the implicit, intuitive function of perceiving meaning, order, pattern, symbol, and connection within and between unrelated things. When I am not doing music, writing my thoughts down, or teaching voice, I spend a lot of studying perception from the interior. Lately I have been trying to design giant chaotic sensory spaces which afford multistability of coherence across different scales in respect to any area sampled in order to help illustrate and exemplify the way perception brings together experience into something meaningful. The art in this video feature two of these spaces along with some photographs and videos I took last month.
The phenomena of finding meaning where it's "not", illustrates the way our culture defers primacy of ontology to consensus or, even worse, the view from nowhere. If there is no meaning in a random pattern, what do you call the meaning I feel, see, hear, have, and can enact to change the tangible world around me in respect to such meaning? Real itself is a perceptual category; only accessible through the same process. What is really different between them besides scale of consensus?
Artists live in a process of explicating the implicate. The implicate is given no status as "real" culturally until you extrude it out as a presence. A similar process is unfolding here in music. What is allowed to have meaning? The cultural reaction to microtonality rhymes with this.
#composer #harmony #chimecore - เกม
This is like looking out the window on the train with the scenery moving by so fast you can only focus on one thing a time. And they your ears get tickled again. Very enjoyable, thanks.
i’ve just read it on a train next to window. thanks
a joy to exist in the same timeframe
Says you! The joy is all mine. Maybe soon I'll write another luma playable 31 etude for you?? :O
@@ZheannaErose please :3
mix sounds a little crunchy on the yt version. .wav is available on my discord server now. will upload this and some others to bandcamp sometime. people have been asking me about spotify for a few years now and I have been intending to upload to spotify but their recent policy revision in respect to gen ai copywrite is kind of sketchy. ai has basically no training data on microtonal music (relative to 12) and i'm not trying to train the machine on my style.
I would pay for a bandcamp release! You deserve to be properly compensated for your music and you have every right to not want a spotify release. This is phenomenal work!
Please release more of these singles on bandcamp, I love them
I didn't even know you had a discord.
No doubt, Spotify is intent of destroying musicians.
@@gimpinainteasy the brain located in her skull is a freaking Scientific Claculator and she is willing to teach. Her discord is invaluable and her teaching is the only reason I have to justify using discord.
feels like I’m catching glimpses of another universe in another timeline. simply wonderful. one of my favorites here!
when i was little i loved the song "hands" by four tet. this piece has a lot of that same subdued chaos, warmth, and beauty
plagal cadence at 4:04 like a warm hug yet still kinda bright in its intonation
new Zheanna Erose upload🎉🎉🎉🎉
It feels so much like the flow of internal processes and how thought itself dimensionally undulates all the time, even within the same sentiment. Thanks for sharing this gem!
this is quite directly exactly what ive been trying to express. T_T
beautiful!! your music is like nothing else
listening to your stuff just gets me so excited to create things. I'm an animator, not a muso, so--different things! but I just love how this music can be like, simultaneously really sophisticated and intricate, but also... deeply emotional and intuitive to the ear. this track specifically is super cool haha, I'm loving it.
Bless you.
I love your 31edo music, definitely opened my eyes to microtonality a few years back. Now I'm at a point where I can work on my own microtonal music (including some technical etudes for Lumatone), so thank you for introducing me to all this
This is really something
PHENOMENAL
Sounds like morphing through different spheres, all at the same time 🦠
I kinda feel like I'm younger listening to this. Or rather, it calls up some kind of nostalgic memory of being younger and losing myself in my inner world while walking around the city alone. It's a melancholy nostalgia, because in those moments I was usually at least a little unhappy, but the kind of unhappy that feels meaningful and important, perhaps especially to a young person. Thank you! I love this piece, I'll definitely listen to it again. Your music has a simultaneously soothing and sharpening effect on my thoughts 💜
This makes me feel uplifted but there’s sadness to it too.
This is seriously amazing. we 💙 u z!
thanks for being here :D
Gonna listen to this for revision, i love the plink plonk percussives!
Ty!!
Havent heard anything this beautiful in a long time, thank you . ❤❤
Gorgeous work as per usual, thank you
I feel like i am getting an ear massage through unknown dimensions of sound
Wtf amazing
loooving the textures in this
this is pure bliss, thank you for making awesome music!
Beautiful.
Thank you!
Those are some pretty clangs :)
Fantastic 👌
this is unreal.
extra ordinary loveliness.
Always a good day when Zheanna posts new music!
Always a good day when y'all show so much love to my art. Thank you!
@@ZheannaErose Thank you for being an inspiration to so many of us! ^^
amazing as always
Have you stumbled upon a form of mathematics called category theory? Your microtones and descriptions make me think you have a more synthetic categorical mind. So much of math is shoved into stupid numbers, when in reality the vastness of an idea’s true beauty shines through the depths of its synthetic structure.
The creative process of working with categories often feels like some of the more “lost” moments in this rendition. When one finally coheres the vast structure into something representable, it comes together for a second and its like this huge mental release. Its bittersweet because this child-demon which was your idea no longer wishes to wrestle, you pinned it with logic.
Numbers ~ classical scale
Category theory ~ microtone
What an amazing honor. I am grateful for such praise. Yes! I study category theory. That is also how I hope my music is felt (among many ways). I am fixated on the expression of the implicate things which has, over time, led to my own categorical metaphysics. I have always had extreme intuition and perceptual sensitivity. I assume when you say synthetic you are referring to the analytic/synthetic distinction ala Kant? If so, yes very much. I am highly abductive and intuition binds such into inductively emergent worlds of meaning I have to spend years combing through to express for others in a more coherent way. It's something that has taken me many years to understand (still trying). When I was a kid I used to think I could read the future because I would predict social events which were building weeks in advance then they would come true. It made me feel uncomfortable because I was afraid I was causing the events. Rather I understand now I was simply perceiving and intuiting. Category theory came for me many years after organic thinking. I stumbled into the field after essentially reinventing category theory on my own lol (very half baked version found by intuition).
One last thought on the notion synthetic vs analytic; I don't believe in the "apriori". I have suspicion we have causally inverted the whole problem since Kant. Wherein, it is abduction which grounds induction which affords the very possibility of deduction in the first place. Human infants discriminate their limbs and movements from others on paired video presentations before language or verbal concept of “self” is present. We begin perceptual adaptation to stimuli before we are even born. This is fully integrated, interactive, and embedded from the very beginning before we are born. Rationalists want to have something called apriori to absolve themselves of responsibility for knowledge but every logical category was deduced from abduction no matter how, when, where, or what. Since the "apriori" is only ever possibly deduced after a consensus of what is logically necessary, it is quite literally the very opposite of apriori. As an "object" of perception the apriori itself a "thing" or domain is necessarily synthetic.
Stunning
Your best work so far. Love the contrasting timbres, the unexpected sounds.
31 is incredbly versatile and a great place for beginners practicing with Microtonality. Here, we have an esteemed expert demonstrating how broad it's horizons really are.
This could be a soundtrack to my favorite activity, TORTURING the Mind of People under the Influence of substances with Math, lmao.
I was here. ❤️
Your music is oxygen in the breathless void. Thank you for your magic! 💜😻
Dillanesque drums and crazy sound design😊
Okay but I swear you jammed a straight up broken piano sample in the middle there haha.
Seriously though I love that so many of your pieces tell a story through texture and timbre. I feel like id still be captivated by them if they were some equivalent with simple chords and melodies in 12tet. Too many artists want to lean on poly-everything or complexity or atypical tunings as a gimmick, it’s nice when there’s a clear purpose to it that enhance an idea that would already be good without it
that's funny because it's exactly how i feel about the sound design, like the piece would still work great if it was only piano
Música hermosa sacada directamente de la errática cabeza de una criatura tetra-dimensional
what an honor :3
I love this. thank you :)
Lovely video ✨
WHEN THE BEAT DROPS🔥🌟🎇💠
I N S A N E
LOL...I love you Zheanna Erose!
very good
So cool
This album finna be lit
Crazy!
Very Tim Hecker (This is high praise)
this makes my brain tingle :)
💚💚💚
your music is so cool reminds me of a more heavily microtonal Amon Tobin! its so good
0:33 interdimensional Bill Evans vibes
all we could ever hope 4
What an amazing production. Congratulations, sounds awesome. What software do you use to manipulate the microtonal pieces? I tried Musescore, but it seems impossible to export microtonal details from it. Thanks.
Nice
0:09 Windows95 startup sound!
🔥🔥
Zhea you’re a true inspiration. I hope to someday work with you
It's funny that it's 4:32 long, feels like a pun on people who don't understand tuning theory.
❤
Oh no im 38 seconds late
Too late
A word I use to myself when I hear you play is psychedelic. But is that the right word? Is it more that a raw emotional experience is being teased out of me rather than going through a rollercoaster of emotions? Regardless, I love your work, your aesthetic, and your talent.
What an honor! The right word I’ll reserve for you to find. I, however, feel similar about my own works. I create what I need to bring into the world. most of what I create doesn’t feel like mine besides namesake. It feels like it comes from the continuous immanent interaction and presence with the experience of sound or harmonic of sorts. There is a presence beyond me and I wish to display it for others. My music ends up sounding psychedelic because I’m basically tripping on sound in consciousness.❤
@@ZheannaErose That's such a poignant way to understand and describe your artistic process! How inspiring! Thanks for sharing that with us! 💜
Vrutal
Woow
i wanna make stuff like this so bad, how do ye do it? what daws do ye use?
i can imagine a dystopian internet culture where people live on layers of platforms seeking what is and isn't AI. maybe spotify becomes a wasteland of AI music while bandcamp remains a place without desecration. people may settle for music that sounds like music or seek the art itself.
this music touches some weird grey area as the "implicate" seems to come into view slowly, around the peripheral, only with blips of it in front of us. it is like existing ambiently in a busy subway and letting the colossal truths of society settle in rather than seeking them out in books. i hope AI doesn't learn to do what artists have done in "explicating the implicate," although i don't think it can because it doesn't have perception. i hope people can distinguish or seek out art which captures the fullness and many-sidedness of the human experience
future music
未来を感じる
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OMG It's JOHN CENA!!!!
Damn
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brug when I try to make shit in 31 it sounds like either something that was made in 12 and needlessly ported to 31, or random vaguely tonal noises
I totally agree with you
but one can make 31 edo tonal but not sound like 12. I double it to 62 and then I have the 12 edo tritone but now it resolves by contrary motion to things like a perfect fourth or fifth that is out of the 12 edo "key". It is tonal microtonality.
is this the heaven? or i am just dreaming about a mastepiece, this is amazing
SONG WITH MAXIPOO WHEN WHEN WHEN???? ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Very Tsung !!! (Shang Tsung)
@@ZheannaErose never did I think microtonal music and mk would collide
You are beautiful.
Wheres your discord link?
This isn’t Mr. Bill…
I dunno Miss Erose. I got over fifty posts and no one even knows I exist. I guess I just suck.
We live in a world full of information. Parsing that information to construct a working model of reality is the function of the human brain, alongside the construction of strategies for affecting that perceived reality through action. The process by which we understand the world is primarily pattern recognition. Many patterns are observable in our environment, such as the distribution of moss on a rock, or the pattern of wave-like ripples on a beach’s sand at the water’s edge. In each pattern we see, information is encoded that can be understood by a pattern recognition engine such as ourselves: the wind and light exposure of the rock, or the frequency and amplitude of the waves that sculpt the sand into a reflection of their influence. This information in itself is known in the form of patterns, the interaction of which informs our constructs about the system.
Patterns exist not only in our environment, but within ourselves. Our thoughts form patterns, our emotions and our actions. The very nature of our being is a pattern of information, when viewed through the lens of introspective pattern recognition. One such pattern in the human mind’s behaviour is the state of heightened pattern recognition, termed Apophenia.
Beyond the ordinary scope of daily problem-solving consciousness, more abstract (or perhaps more primary) patterns can be observed. These tend to form the basis of spiritual and mystical philosophies, acting as patterns for the patterns we observe within our lifetimes. Concepts such as duality- the union of opposites, and the internal/external dichotomy, the subject and object of logic and relation and many others are wider patterns that themselves fall into the pattern known as duality. The successive creation of abstractions is a process of representation. As a pattern is recognized, it can be represented (perhaps named as in linguistic process) for further observation of its interrelation to other concepts (abstracted patterns). This gives rise to categorization, where an observed pattern is subsumed into an abstracted pattern, by the forming of conceptual links between those patterns.
Link forming is a pattern that is widespread in nature. We form links between ideas just as a mycelial network forms links between trees. The brain acts to recognize patterns through a process of link forming, known as neuroplasticity. Neuroplasticity is the term given to the process by which a brain adapts to new information: by strengthening or weakening, forming or breaking connections, thereby creating a pattern of interconnection that represents the pattern of information that it processes. As new information is perceived, it is categorized into the constructed patterns of concepts, forming an interconnected framework by which we understand and interpret the world. This pattern of links is the reality we live in day-to-day.
However, to see the interconnection between categories is itself a breaking of those boundaries, or more accurately a process of forming links across them. This integration of concepts is the fundamental action by which a conceptual construct is made more accurate to perceived reality, a plasticity of categories in response to new information. The formation of links between patterns creates a single wider pattern, which may differ in form to the received information but ultimately more closely reflects the pattern of that information, albeit interpreted from a certain perspective.
We form a concept of the self by recognizing the interrelationship of our own perceptual field with the construct of our reality. The self and the world are categorized as separate, but each relies on its relationship with the other to exist. The self and the world are stabilized by the filtering of incoming information through categorization- only that which fits the model is incorporated, unless the construct is in a state of sufficient plasticity, such as Apophenia.
The recognition of patterns within the nature of pattern recognition is interesting, as it is both an abstraction and a push towards the source of information. Introspection and extrospection are equivalent in this, as the patterns inside are a reflection of the patterns outside, while simultaneously determining those external patterns. The interrelation of internal and external forms a pattern of pattern forming, interdependency of subject and object leading to interrelation itself. This higher order abstract pattern serves to explain all patterns that can be observed and categorized, and yet is not observable in itself- as a system cannot encompass itself except through representation.
The true nature of reality therefore, is not relational. The patterns we see are a function of the self, which is in turn a function of pattern recognition. That which exists cannot be encompassed within relation, but we know it must exist for the relation to occur for us to perceive and recognize as a pattern. A closed system of representation can be manipulated and any number of valid abstractions and patterns can be observed from that manipulation, but if all things are representations of interrelation, no conclusions can be drawn about the nature of that which is represented.
The duality of subject and object tells us nothing about underlying Truth, as it is a closed system. No matter how coherent, all relation is inherently limited to its own domain, whereas Truth is objective, i.e. it is independent of relation, independent of perspective. That which can be known is not true except within the known, and that which is True is unknowable.
The categorization that gives rise to the self is responsible for that limitation of perspective. Perhaps the Truth can be perceived if the self is removed, but necessarily not by any individual person. This understanding is itself merely a pattern that has been abstracted from the process of pattern recognition however, and so it is not True. The unknown is known through the unknowing of the known and the known is unknown through knowing. Isn’t that a pretty pattern?
II like the way in which you arrive at a commitment to a kind of aestheticism, even if I would no longer take it myself as a path via Kantianism, which has been criticized more than enough, with a subsequent flight into a mysticist way out. But it was fun to follow these thoughts. Thank you for the addition to the auditory enjoyment of the video's unique music. Greetings from germany.
Wrong video lol
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