i don't care what the german fan boys say, but i love this car! and there is a reason why lexus and toyota can cover the engine bay with plastic covers, and it is because the cars are so reliable that people have no need to open the engine bay up at all compared to the german cars. yes maybe the german cars have the badge name and the mercedes is quite nice to be in, but i love this japaneseness of the interior of this car and for me, its better than the german cars.
Sombody You Dont Know Meh. Other Lexuses don't have a plastic shroud covering the entire engine bay, a lot of the stuff is cleanly organized but still exposed. I'm in favor of showing all that stuff.
Yes, I agree a 100% with you on that. That is exactly why I would strongly consider buying one, even though I would have to *"hold my nose"* and do it!
I've had the 450h for 8 years, never had a single problem, the only thing I wasn't so keen on were the looks (though the interior is amazing) this one though look amazing inside and out. Not overly keen on the sound of the cvt when booting it, but the power delivery of the h models is addictive too
Lexus is without a doubt the most reliable car manufacturer. I assume it's because of their excellent quality control and engineering and also because their cars are always overbuilt. If you check their previous engines on LS, LX, toyota land cruisers etc... it's always under powered for the size of the engine. another reliable car is the crown victoria 4.6 V8 @ 210 HP my theory is.. less relative power = less strain on the engine and other moving parts = a more reliable car. with the new LS they are pushing it a bit, and the two turbos mean two extra probable causes of failure. my guess that it will not be as reliable as previous LS models, you won't see 6 Years 1,000,000 KM warranty on it (got it for free from the dealership on 2015 LS 460) *reliable enough* same as german cars but don't expect it to last for your grandchild without major repair expenses. I could be wrong though
Why should it be a "LS350h" ? The same reason that Mercedes engines do not match the model designation like they used to. Is the new S560 a 5.6 liter? NOPE! It's a 4.0 liter. Lexus doesn't want potential customers to think that they are somehow getting "less".
All lexus engine names match their engine displacement. MB uses the number designation to describe the engine size. all 500 series models are v8s, 400 models are v6's and 300 models are turbo 4's. AMG 43's aer twin turbo 6's and AMG 63's are twin turbo 8's and 65's are twin turbo 12's. Its supposed to match since they are the ones who said it should. a lexus 350 always has a 3.5L V6, and the 500's are "supposed" to be 5L V8's. The LX 570 is a 5.7L V8, and the GS 350 is a 3.5L V6...all to say. it to say it does matter
Malik L Griffin . Apparently you haven't watched or heard the news on new Lexus 2018 model. LS500 and LS500h are 3.5L V6 twin turbo. How long this crap will last? First 6-7 years in US and Europe ... after that, they are all going to 3rd world countries (South America and Africa) as inherited from rich men junks!!!
Malik L Griffin u seem to miss point he's not talking about engine size but displacement, back in the day Mercedes-Benz cars had the same displacement as the numbers they carried. My father owned an s 500 back from previous generations and it was a 5.0 litre engine. The same Lexus has done here with the Ls 500 simple. There's nothing to make a fuss about
What's not to like? Sensual design, first class materials, sensibly rapid, with legendary reliability and first class dealer service. Plus, less conspicuous than an S Class. Yes, please.
Anybody poor enough to actually care about the value and badge prestige of a Lexus was just going to buy a Toyota Avalon anyway. Mercedes are for football players and rappers. The ultrarich buy what they want, regardless of the cost or brand, because the value of money is something they've never had to think about. Maybe they want a Lexus LS, maybe they want an S-Class, or maybe they're in the mood for a Dodge Neon, but they're not trying to impress anyone. Their last name is impressive enough. They buy whatever strikes their fancy, and throw it out like a less wealthy person would throw out last season's fashions, when they're in the mood for something else. If Lexus continues to have softer seats than Mercedes, it could have a Chevy badge and people who want the ultimate in ultraluxury soft seats would still pay $100k for one.
in my opinion, there is a lot not to like. I"m not a fan of the design at all. I"m sure it's built well, I"m sure it drives smooth... but to look at it is just a bit cheesy and gimmicky.
Happy to report there is a FIRST DRIVE REVIEW of the car featured in this episode coming up on September 26. That will be followed by another ROUND DA BLOCK REVIEW of the LS500h you see glimpses of in this episode. Then I was able to get some time with the engineers and the Chief Designer. You will see episodes on those at some point after the drive episodes.
Styling is one factor that is obviously subjective. Two things that remain consistent through out other channels reviewing this LS is the high level of attention given to its details and the superb "fit and finish".
I own a 98 LS400 and still think that is the best looking LS. I am obsessed with the LS, S-Class, and 7-Series. I think they did a good job dumping the boring conservative design. I don't think this out-techs the new S560 though. Mercedes will not allow another company to dethrone the S-Class and has made it very hard to compete. This new LS however is definitely a step in the right direction. I'm glad it will have an active suspension to reduce body roll. No idea why the previous LS didn't have it. What I will say is the 2013 LS460 has one of the nicest interior dash I've ever seen. Significant improvement over the ugly 07-2012 interior dashboard.
What an amazing and stunning vehicle. The interior of this car is the best in class for flagships in the region of 100k or slightly more. What an incredible job Lexus has done
I have come to the conclusion that they secretly charge you for their cars reliability on the price tag. Because they are not the faster cars nor the ones with the latest tech. Anyway, the only option is to save....a lot.
This new Ls looks just like a big es 350..look at it wats exciting about it..the grill looks like the mouth on that monster wit Arnold Schwarzenegger..it doesnt have a luxury presence...an there new suvs are ugly ...its ashame they make reliable car but they are ugly...bottom line..Lexus needs to look out for Geniuses..Lexis aint got nothing on the German trio
What I don't like about the current LS model is that it has skinny tires even on the F model, so I hope they've given this car nice fat tires. The other thing is the steering wheel on the LS500 looks huge!! They really need to trim the lower part of it. I'm really glad they put a TTV6, I like the numbers on it, and I hope this engine will end up in the other Lexus models, IS/GS. I don't think the F model needs the 4 wheel steering, that's just added weight and that feature shouldn't be in such cars at all.
Overall, the car does not work at all for me. The exterior and interior is an overwrought, gaudy, incohesive mess. The exterior design language with its exaggerated surfacing, creases, pinches etc. will age terribly and looks bizarre to my eyes. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I don't want my $100K flagship luxury sedan to look like an alien space ship. Aside from it's size and road presence (due to its polarizing styling), the car does not look premium and could just as easily be mistaken for a Korean manufacturer. Inside is a little more successful, though the mix of materials create a chaotic and frantic climate. Some of the innovation with it's craftsmanship and materials are certainly to be applauded, but there's still an abundance of plastics that just isn't present in the S Class where brightwork is more generously used. While the interior arguably has a more "organic" atmosphere than say the upcoming Audi A8, the design lacks cohesion and purpose and comes off as jarring and gimmicky. The LFA inspired gauges are a nice touch, but the infotainment is still a generation behind it's competitors. I'm really unsure who this car appeals to outside of die hard brand loyalists who were dying for something (anything it would seem) more distinctive and exciting from Lexus. Would you really buy this over a Mercedes S Class?
Mr A Calm yourself, sport. I'm a fan of the channel and he implicitly asked the opinions of his viewership. If you can't handle an opinion different from your own, maybe you should gtfo of the comment section until your balls drop.
Tony Bland - I tend to be less scathing about the styling but agree with a lot of what you say. If by 'premium' you mean expensive, I actually look at the surfacing, creases and pinches thinking "that can't be cheap". I agree the detailing is probably too gaudy for the car's traditional market, but the important luxury car markets are increasingly China and the Middle East, which it would seem to suit well. A brief glance at the latest 7 Series, A8, revised S Class (especially the V12s) and even to an extent the new Phantom suggest to me subtlety and restraint are no longer the order of the day now that China is these cars' biggest marketplace. Yes I would still choose the Mercedes over the LS, but the Lexus is ahead of the new A8 and 7 Series in terms of styling in my opinion and will almost certainly be less expensive, more reliable and only really lag behind the Germans in terms of technology.
I honestly don't know if you're trolling and just writing bizarre comments to get attention. This car blew car enthusiasts away on its presentation day. This car is Lexus, a beautiful design language with a killer looking interior. The S-class looks like an E-class, The BMW 7 series looks like the new 5-series, The Lexus LS500 looks like a Lexus LS500.
Some of us are die-hard brand loyalists for one and only one reason: RELIABILITY, DURABILITY AND QUALITY. While I do agree with most of your assessment of this vehicle, if the German manufacturers could even come somewhere close to Lexus in this aspect, I would be running away from this as fast as I could and buy them. But their reliability and quality is a billion times worse, so much so that one feels literally scammed buying one of them!
Van Romondt - numerous people appreciate the simplicity in design. for them, it's disappointing to see lexus moving the LS away from the confident yet calm elegance it was always about. you may not agree with that sentiment but no need to call someone with a different view a 'troll'.
That's the opinion on all Toyotas but the reality is that Android and Apple may be gone or change completely long before this car expires. That's why Toyota is not buying into it. They still have cd players cause former owners may still use cd's as well. But you will always be able to stream via bluetooth.
I found the V8 lag of my LS cars unacceptable. Can't get out of a tight intersection quickly enough from 0 mph. Looking forward to the LS500 which has much lower lag.
well its not cheap but the upside is that its got good resale value when compared to other luxury cars... and parts is cheaper and its more reliable....
I must say - it looks good despite of the "predator" front. It clearly copies the Panamera lines on the outside. Inside looks great. The idea of cutting down two cyl and adding two turbos is great, this should have been adopted by Honda like 5 years ago already (ah, well).
The most detailed car review ever I've seen on TH-cam. Reminds me maths class when I understood nothing of what the teacher said. This guy knows his stuff.
The best-looking Flagship luxury sedan. Always admire carmakers that take risks and make bold & intriguing designs. Kudos to Lexus for being bold and unique and finally stop trying to be "German" esp. with the new LS. The grille is polarizing yes but can't deny it effectively gave Lexus much needed identity.
I like the interior design changes. However, I think the exterior is a bit boring But I think that luxury flagships in general, whether 7-series, G90, A8, S-class, etc., are largely boring in design. I am VERY curious as to how you take to the redesigned infotainment. I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T Limited as well as a 2017 Lexus RC 350 FSport (previous gen Remote Touch Interface). Despite being a D-segment car and two years older, the Sonata's infotainment is light years better than the RC's. I've also been lucky to have experienced practically every major manufacturer's infotainment and it's my opinion that Lexus's Remote Touch Interface is the absolute worst in the business, all things considered. The new GUI in the LS has me hoping that the system is easier to use, but seeing the touchpad still in the cabin diminishes that faith.
The interior is this cars style star. The exterior looks good but the b pillar aft, I see Toyota Avalon. Anyway, good thing Lexus got out of trying to "out German the Germans" !. Be your own brand. Lexus is known for quiet, RELIABLE cars that won't drain your wallet with repairs, even well into 200,000 miles. A more powerful V6 over a V8, cool. Honestly, how many Lexus owners are going to use half of the power and/or tech features this car has !?
for that amount of $ I wouldn't choose a LS 500 it's just too much, too many lines. The LS looks like it's trying do too much with all those lines ugh and that grill! I'm taking CT6, XJ or S-Class everyday of the week & twice on Sunday! Detroit,MI
As for the design paths that Lexus chose....the interior hands down harbors the most creative choices I've seen in any automaker, save Bentley and RR. The exterior was almost a triple. It instead is a ground rule double, to me. The front is aggressive and stylish, the rear is ok. But where the LS falls short is aft of the b pillar. The way the belt line rises is super hideous! Not organic, like dare i say, the new BUICK LACROSSE. THE LEXUS belt line looks like it rises in stages. Outside of that, great job LEXUS, going in your own direction to an extent. Let's see if S Class and 7 Series owners stay loyal.....
Will a detuned version of the turbo engine make its way to the Lexus IS350? Infiniti ditched its 3.7L for a 3.0L twin turbo V6 and power output has finally started to compare to the Germans.
@motomanTV From what I understand, they call it the equivalent engine size. Like they named the LS 600HL because it had a comparable output to a 6.0 L Engine at the time. Like the LS 500 is powered by a 3.5 but makes similar power to 5L of displacement of this current era.
I like those little interior details you highlighted (such as the new Bentley Continental GT and 'Citroën' DS 7 Crossback) but mostly the front 3/4.That design looks dang good. Those who buy a Mercedes to customize it... Look no further than this Lexus LS.
The last Lexus LS came out in 2006, so it only took them 11 years to get around to updating their flagship sedan. I feel like LS buyers are now used to driving other cars like the S-Class or 7 Series. I'm sure that the new LS will be safe, reliable, comfortable, and have an amazing technology package. However, I really do not like the styling of the LS inside or out. I really don't like the spindle grille, and feel like the headlight design is busy. On the inside I think the door handles look like a horn, and everything feels aggressive and not relaxing.
i dont like that its lowered compared to the previous modell... they should raise the LS line. this should be not about sportperformance looks.... this should be about comfort + luxury.
Well likes - very different own approach, design is subjective. I prefer previous one. Not likes - too low and long nose. Luxury is about presence, not about how low and fast it can go. In the end, it should have retained something from previous one. I don't see beauty of extra pane window after rear door and useless ( cameras are getting better ). So, overall, driving RX would feel better, because you seat higher ( re-member Rolls R ? ).
personally, I'm thrilled to see Lexus finally embrace their Japanese heritage, rather than, as you said, trying to out-German the Germans. This is the first LS I've cared about since the Original LS set such a high bar. Also, great meeting you and shooting with you!
Beautiful. Very emotional and highly sculpted design. It looks like nothing else on the road the design is very Japanese. Lexus really have found their own path in this world of copy cats. That interior even in the dark finish you can tell it takes a back seat to no other luxury cars. Between the new LC500 and this new LS500 Lexus is doing a commendable job. This LS looks like it's a car for people who care about design aesthetic's and the small details.
All I can think about when watching a review of this car is : It's a Toyota at heart so everything will still be working great 10 years and 150K+ miles down the line. Unlike it's German counterparts which are beautiful but... an older German car meaning anything after 75K at the most and 5 years scares the shit out of me as far as reliability is concerned and the cost to fix them. If your not leasing a new German car than your on your own while this Japanese beast I would Love to pick up used say 3/4 years old-let someone else take the depreciation hit and I ride off into the sunset 🌅 with a great bang for the buck bargain.
I actually like the lines a lot. Very sleek, immaculate detail and a nice amount of horsepower and torque for a 6 cylinder. 10-speed transmission is amazing and for a two-ton-plus car, a 5.2 0-60 is good. I do know that a lot of previous F-Sport Lexus models have been ultra-stiff - so much so that salesmen were providing warnings when I went to take a look. I am curious if that is still the case or if the changes from comfort, sport, and sport+ handle it better than in the past?
I'm not impressed with the exterior design. I know it's subjective, but to me it looks too much like the Infiniti from side profile. But obviously it's a great car. I am the proud owner of the LS430 which you can see in my channel. I love it, it only has a little north of 100k miles and I hope to drive it north of 300k. I still get compliments on it, as a matter of fact I had it at the car wash just a couple days ago and someone jokingly asked if I wanted to trade cars. He said "man that is beautiful"
Interesting how Lexus seems to be making sure that the LS does not compete directly with the S-Class. Do they have a hole card coming for that battle, or have they given up, and this is their fold? This will stay in the mid-$70's base price range
They shouldn't call it a "500" if it isn't displacing 5.0 liters. All this time the number represented the displacement by one tenth. I.e. ls400 was a 4.0, ls430 was a 4.3, etc.
I love the headlights. They are completely unique. I also love the interior outside of the 2 knobs on either side of the IP. Reminds me of Shrek, or something from the 80's.
Two things I don't like. 1. Lack of headroom for taller people. A flagship should be long but also give some space up top. Needs another inch or two. Form shouldn't impede on function. 2. The long and low front end looks like it's going to scrape on more than a few curbs.
I love the new side look, slightly similar to Tesla. Rear is almost the same as the old and still great! Where I have a problem is with the front, for now I don't like the grill, it's just too much. It's like a photo of a woman sitting on a couch wearing a mini skirt, the knees draw all the attention away from rest of the pic. Here IMHO I think the grill could be better. The performance is impressive but the stitching on the seats lol just way too much. As expected the dash is sort of in line with other manufacturers this includes rear seat comforts. Would I buy one? Yes of course! In about a year from now I guess the grill will grow on me.
Photos and videos of this new Lexus look good to my eyes. The new LS500 appears to have a lowered beltline with better balance between the car body and the greenhouse. From some angles it reminds me of the Porsche Panamera highlighted by lots of little busy Lexus styling touches that I guess some people like. Car styling is best featured on the street surrounded by other cars. That's the best way to appreciate overall design.
My thoughts and one of the reasons that put me off Lexus, is the look, feel and functionality of the infotainment screen. It looks outdated, feels sluggish, and just not that intuitive. Lexus really needs to do something about the visuals and the graphics. I know it's Japanese but they can have an elegance to to it, doesn't necessarily have to look like we just turned on PlayStation 3. 😜
I love that Lexus is doing their own thing and I think this a great evolution of the LS, BUT I really wish they kept with the heritage of the V8. The LC has a amazing 5.0, why could we not have that here?
What I like is that I believe that this car drives and rides more comfortably and effortlessly than the previous generation car . What I don’t like is that I guess they’ve scraped out a few luxury options like the cooler box and folding tray tables in the executive rear seats and also would have loved to see a better UI for the infotainment system along with Apple Carplay and android auto .
I don't know if there is enough differentiation in terms of power train or performance from the competition. I think Lexus loyalists and anyone who wants a reliable car will stick with Lexus. For everyone else, the three year lease crowd, the German alternatives are probably far better choices.
why not just buy a jag f-type? its cheaper, it has more horses, more heritage, and more fun. after all, thats what a sport car ought to be - fun. enough of this responsible, glorified hyundai nonsense.
I admit when Lexus changed the spindle grille I was meh. Seemed like they were just riveted on without much thought. But here it makes sense. The entire exterior looks 'whole'. The interior is intriguing too. When the local dealer gets them in I'll go take a look-see.
I love the front end ... the rear end is quite beautiful as well ... I don't like there rear quarter panels / window section ... I am simply in love with the interior ... that glass detail and origami suede treatment is gorgeous and so Japanese ... I am glad they are highlighting their Japanese roots here for sure
I couldn't help but pause over and over on the engine shots. No belts, nothing but chains and gears.... assuming no lube issues that is going to be a 200K+ engine with almost no service.
i like the competence of the chassis, still to see how superior it would be against s class and 7 series, jaguar xj etc.. wheels and body looks very attractive, the ls is kinda special. i don't like how it looks too modern in the front. maybe in the back too.. never saw it in person, won't even know how it feels in the interior, tht looks very modern too.
I LOVE THE DESIGN, IT TRULY FLOWS...THE INTERIOR WILL TAKE SOME GETTING USE TOO, AS I'M A BMW 5 SERIES GUY. I LIKE THE WHEELS, I LOVE THE CHROME ACCENTS AND GRILL DESIGN, WHICH I WASN'T A BIG FAN OF WITH OTHER MODELS. I CERTAINLY HOPE THEY HAVE BETTER COLOR SELECTION AND INTERIOR COLOR COMBINATIONS. I WOULD DEFINITELY LEASE THIS CAR, NO DOUBT, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO TEST DRIVE IT FIRST. RGEE
Stick a 5.0l v8 in it and it'd be the perfect car, hate all these small displacement forced induction engines that seem to find their way in to modern luxury cars
The only thing I wish is that we saw some of the tech in what the car offers to the driver. I understand you have a drive video coming up for it so hopefully you'll cover the infotainment as well
At some angles the car does look a little weird, but i have seen it in person and the car looks amazing. It has understated presence. This is a for real, competitor to the likes, S class or 7 series.
do not like the knobs on the top sides of the drivers instrument panel. Looks like horns or something, seems out of place. Any reason why the designers put them there?
the car is nice, the details about it are interesting, one thing though. you could put the specs on the screen each time you talk about them, it just makes it easier to follow.
The interior is just beautiful The exterior looks nice but a little weird muby with time it will grow on me But the real star here is the interior its just staning in every regard
it is a really good looking car but I would have to sit in it to say what I like or don't like but as for now I will say the floor mat is what I like :P
Said it and will say it again: He is THE most underrated car reviewer on youtube
Marc AD ikr!! One of the best out there
i don't care what the german fan boys say, but i love this car! and there is a reason why lexus and toyota can cover the engine bay with plastic covers, and it is because the cars are so reliable that people have no need to open the engine bay up at all compared to the german cars. yes maybe the german cars have the badge name and the mercedes is quite nice to be in, but i love this japaneseness of the interior of this car and for me, its better than the german cars.
Sombody You Dont Know Meh. Other Lexuses don't have a plastic shroud covering the entire engine bay, a lot of the stuff is cleanly organized but still exposed. I'm in favor of showing all that stuff.
well ,
i like the reliability and
i like the reliability and
for the third time i like the reliability
save ur time by buying lexus
Yes, I agree a 100% with you on that. That is exactly why I would strongly consider buying one, even though I would have to *"hold my nose"* and do it!
I've had the 450h for 8 years, never had a single problem, the only thing I wasn't so keen on were the looks (though the interior is amazing) this one though look amazing inside and out. Not overly keen on the sound of the cvt when booting it, but the power delivery of the h models is addictive too
Lexus is without a doubt the most reliable car manufacturer. I assume it's because of their excellent quality control and engineering
and also because their cars are always overbuilt. If you check their previous engines on LS, LX, toyota land cruisers etc... it's always under powered for the size of the engine.
another reliable car is the crown victoria 4.6 V8 @ 210 HP
my theory is.. less relative power = less strain on the engine and other moving parts = a more reliable car.
with the new LS they are pushing it a bit, and the two turbos mean two extra probable causes of failure.
my guess that it will not be as reliable as previous LS models, you won't see 6 Years 1,000,000 KM warranty on it (got it for free from the dealership on 2015 LS 460)
*reliable enough* same as german cars but don't expect it to last for your grandchild without major repair expenses.
I could be wrong though
Say no more!!!
So what are you saying ;D
Lexus have released another winner. Beautiful interior, great mpg figures, epic reliability.
Why should it be a "LS350h" ? The same reason that Mercedes engines do not match the model designation like they used to. Is the new S560 a 5.6 liter? NOPE! It's a 4.0 liter. Lexus doesn't want potential customers to think that they are somehow getting "less".
All lexus engine names match their engine displacement. MB uses the number designation to describe the engine size. all 500 series models are v8s, 400 models are v6's and 300 models are turbo 4's. AMG 43's aer twin turbo 6's and AMG 63's are twin turbo 8's and 65's are twin turbo 12's. Its supposed to match since they are the ones who said it should. a lexus 350 always has a 3.5L V6, and the 500's are "supposed" to be 5L V8's. The LX 570 is a 5.7L V8, and the GS 350 is a 3.5L V6...all to say. it to say it does matter
Malik L Griffin . Apparently you haven't watched or heard the news on new Lexus 2018 model. LS500 and LS500h are 3.5L V6 twin turbo. How long this crap will last? First 6-7 years in US and Europe ... after that, they are all going to 3rd world countries (South America and Africa) as inherited from rich men junks!!!
Malik L Griffin u seem to miss point he's not talking about engine size but displacement, back in the day Mercedes-Benz cars had the same displacement as the numbers they carried. My father owned an s 500 back from previous generations and it was a 5.0 litre engine. The same Lexus has done here with the Ls 500 simple. There's nothing to make a fuss about
Mercedes now has S680. Very soon it'll be S1000 with four cylinders.
Brian D. In that case modern 2 liter turbo can be named as a 1970s V8-s 👍😀
What's not to like? Sensual design, first class materials, sensibly rapid, with legendary reliability and first class dealer service. Plus, less conspicuous than an S Class. Yes, please.
The front air intakes looks too similar to the new Camry's. This is a 100,000 car and if I were to buy it, just for that reason I wouldn't
Anybody poor enough to actually care about the value and badge prestige of a Lexus was just going to buy a Toyota Avalon anyway. Mercedes are for football players and rappers. The ultrarich buy what they want, regardless of the cost or brand, because the value of money is something they've never had to think about. Maybe they want a Lexus LS, maybe they want an S-Class, or maybe they're in the mood for a Dodge Neon, but they're not trying to impress anyone. Their last name is impressive enough. They buy whatever strikes their fancy, and throw it out like a less wealthy person would throw out last season's fashions, when they're in the mood for something else. If Lexus continues to have softer seats than Mercedes, it could have a Chevy badge and people who want the ultimate in ultraluxury soft seats would still pay $100k for one.
in my opinion, there is a lot not to like. I"m not a fan of the design at all. I"m sure it's built well, I"m sure it drives smooth... but to look at it is just a bit cheesy and gimmicky.
Dont tell me you like the stupid Lexus infotainment controller
J J Funny. I have 18 Rx350 and I hate it more than I hate my 16 E400 command. You must be a simpleton.
Video too short MotoMan. You had me wanting more.
It's 1 of 3 parts. There's plenty more :-)
Happy to report there is a FIRST DRIVE REVIEW of the car featured in this episode coming up on September 26. That will be followed by another ROUND DA BLOCK REVIEW of the LS500h you see glimpses of in this episode. Then I was able to get some time with the engineers and the Chief Designer. You will see episodes on those at some point after the drive episodes.
Styling is one factor that is obviously subjective. Two things that remain consistent through out other channels reviewing this LS is the high level of attention given to its details and the superb "fit and finish".
That's a beauty.
I own a 98 LS400 and still think that is the best looking LS. I am obsessed with the LS, S-Class, and 7-Series. I think they did a good job dumping the boring conservative design. I don't think this out-techs the new S560 though. Mercedes will not allow another company to dethrone the S-Class and has made it very hard to compete. This new LS however is definitely a step in the right direction. I'm glad it will have an active suspension to reduce body roll. No idea why the previous LS didn't have it. What I will say is the 2013 LS460 has one of the nicest interior dash I've ever seen. Significant improvement over the ugly 07-2012 interior dashboard.
What an amazing and stunning vehicle. The interior of this car is the best in class for flagships in the region of 100k or slightly more. What an incredible job Lexus has done
I like everything on this car.
That interior is amazing. And do you know the chrome piece near the end side panel is supposed to look like a Japanese katana
I like the design, love the interior, just wish they had added a V8
man i love lexus
why do they have to be so expensive :(
I have come to the conclusion that they secretly charge you for their cars reliability on the price tag. Because they are not the faster cars nor the ones with the latest tech. Anyway, the only option is to save....a lot.
Beautiful in every aspect, from the super clean engine bay, those wheels, and that little knob next to the steering wheel.
this car is absolutely stunning!!!!!
I think the car is georgeous!
I don't care for it. The shape seems rushed. It seemed as if they stretched the car and not much effort to anything else.
This Lexus somewhat shaped and look like a Tesla at a angle
Rashawn Turner I was looking for this comment. I'm surprised nobody else really sees this because it's obvious.
you need to get your eyes checked... it looks nothing like a Tesla...
This car is BEAUTIFUL! Interior and exterior.
Interior & exterior love it !!! I don't care for the F sport tho
This new Ls looks just like a big es 350..look at it wats exciting about it..the grill looks like the mouth on that monster wit Arnold Schwarzenegger..it doesnt have a luxury presence...an there new suvs are ugly ...its ashame they make reliable car but they are ugly...bottom line..Lexus needs to look out for Geniuses..Lexis aint got nothing on the German trio
What I don't like about the current LS model is that it has skinny tires even on the F model, so I hope they've given this car nice fat tires. The other thing is the steering wheel on the LS500 looks huge!! They really need to trim the lower part of it. I'm really glad they put a TTV6, I like the numbers on it, and I hope this engine will end up in the other Lexus models, IS/GS. I don't think the F model needs the 4 wheel steering, that's just added weight and that feature shouldn't be in such cars at all.
Alright, I'm sold on this beauty! The LC500 will be my weekend car, and the LS500 will be for family trips.
Lmao, do you have a money tree in your backyard?!
The wildly futuristic and progressive design is growing on me!
Overall, the car does not work at all for me. The exterior and interior is an overwrought, gaudy, incohesive mess. The exterior design language with its exaggerated surfacing, creases, pinches etc. will age terribly and looks bizarre to my eyes. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I don't want my $100K flagship luxury sedan to look like an alien space ship. Aside from it's size and road presence (due to its polarizing styling), the car does not look premium and could just as easily be mistaken for a Korean manufacturer. Inside is a little more successful, though the mix of materials create a chaotic and frantic climate. Some of the innovation with it's craftsmanship and materials are certainly to be applauded, but there's still an abundance of plastics that just isn't present in the S Class where brightwork is more generously used. While the interior arguably has a more "organic" atmosphere than say the upcoming Audi A8, the design lacks cohesion and purpose and comes off as jarring and gimmicky. The LFA inspired gauges are a nice touch, but the infotainment is still a generation behind it's competitors. I'm really unsure who this car appeals to outside of die hard brand loyalists who were dying for something (anything it would seem) more distinctive and exciting from Lexus. Would you really buy this over a Mercedes S Class?
Mr A Calm yourself, sport. I'm a fan of the channel and he implicitly asked the opinions of his viewership. If you can't handle an opinion different from your own, maybe you should gtfo of the comment section until your balls drop.
Tony Bland - I tend to be less scathing about the styling but agree with a lot of what you say. If by 'premium' you mean expensive, I actually look at the surfacing, creases and pinches thinking "that can't be cheap". I agree the detailing is probably too gaudy for the car's traditional market, but the important luxury car markets are increasingly China and the Middle East, which it would seem to suit well. A brief glance at the latest 7 Series, A8, revised S Class (especially the V12s) and even to an extent the new Phantom suggest to me subtlety and restraint are no longer the order of the day now that China is these cars' biggest marketplace. Yes I would still choose the Mercedes over the LS, but the Lexus is ahead of the new A8 and 7 Series in terms of styling in my opinion and will almost certainly be less expensive, more reliable and only really lag behind the Germans in terms of technology.
I honestly don't know if you're trolling and just writing bizarre comments to get attention. This car blew car enthusiasts away on its presentation day. This car is Lexus, a beautiful design language with a killer looking interior. The S-class looks like an E-class, The BMW 7 series looks like the new 5-series, The Lexus LS500 looks like a Lexus LS500.
Some of us are die-hard brand loyalists for one and only one reason: RELIABILITY, DURABILITY AND QUALITY. While I do agree with most of your assessment of this vehicle, if the German manufacturers could even come somewhere close to Lexus in this aspect, I would be running away from this as fast as I could and buy them. But their reliability and quality is a billion times worse, so much so that one feels literally scammed buying one of them!
Van Romondt - numerous people appreciate the simplicity in design. for them, it's disappointing to see lexus moving the LS away from the confident yet calm elegance it was always about. you may not agree with that sentiment but no need to call someone with a different view a 'troll'.
This man deserve 1 million subscribers!!!!!!!! The detail of this Car review it's just AMAZING. Salute!
I'd take this over an A8 but still needs car play
The exterior maybe but the A8's interior shits on this
That's the opinion on all Toyotas but the reality is that Android and Apple may be gone or change completely long before this car expires. That's why Toyota is not buying into it. They still have cd players cause former owners may still use cd's as well. But you will always be able to stream via bluetooth.
Yon Yonson no, the front resembles the Camry on this Lexus. The A8 wins in design overall but just loses in reliability
I wish they would put a v8 on F sport models...
I found the V8 lag of my LS cars unacceptable. Can't get out of a tight intersection quickly enough from 0 mph. Looking forward to the LS500 which has much lower lag.
The engines relatively low tech compared to S500
the best looking in the secmant
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the second home run for Lexus. the second " affordable " Lexus i would actually consider owning... it is a lovely thing.
Shannon Stjulien close to 100k and more affordable???
as compaired to the LFA @ 400K .
well its not cheap but the upside is that its got good resale value when compared to other luxury cars... and parts is cheaper and its more reliable....
spyder61man Yes definitely affordable, but I'm guessing you and I know very different people.
imdevonur if you are in this market and affordable is the question, I believe it is more about do you pull the trigger or not!!
I must say - it looks good despite of the "predator" front. It clearly copies the Panamera lines on the outside. Inside looks great. The idea of cutting down two cyl and adding two turbos is great, this should have been adopted by Honda like 5 years ago already (ah, well).
The most detailed car review ever I've seen on TH-cam. Reminds me maths class when I understood nothing of what the teacher said. This guy knows his stuff.
The best-looking Flagship luxury sedan. Always admire carmakers that take risks and make bold & intriguing designs. Kudos to Lexus for being bold and unique and finally stop trying to be "German" esp. with the new LS. The grille is polarizing yes but can't deny it effectively gave Lexus much needed identity.
Quality review as always, U deserve more view than that !!!!
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
What a sexy boat...
Is the Pano Roof an option on these? I have yet to see it on any of the reviews. Would be a shame if it wasn't for that price point.
I like the design in and out because it's unique. A lot of cars look the same besides the headlights and tail lights. Not this car
I like the interior design changes. However, I think the exterior is a bit boring But I think that luxury flagships in general, whether 7-series, G90, A8, S-class, etc., are largely boring in design.
I am VERY curious as to how you take to the redesigned infotainment. I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T Limited as well as a 2017 Lexus RC 350 FSport (previous gen Remote Touch Interface). Despite being a D-segment car and two years older, the Sonata's infotainment is light years better than the RC's. I've also been lucky to have experienced practically every major manufacturer's infotainment and it's my opinion that Lexus's Remote Touch Interface is the absolute worst in the business, all things considered. The new GUI in the LS has me hoping that the system is easier to use, but seeing the touchpad still in the cabin diminishes that faith.
The interior is this cars style star. The exterior looks good but the b pillar aft, I see Toyota Avalon. Anyway, good thing Lexus got out of trying to "out German the Germans" !. Be your own brand. Lexus is known for quiet, RELIABLE cars that won't drain your wallet with repairs, even well into 200,000 miles. A more powerful V6 over a V8, cool. Honestly, how many Lexus owners are going to use half of the power and/or tech features this car has !?
for that amount of $ I wouldn't choose a LS 500 it's just too much, too many lines. The LS looks like it's trying do too much with all those lines ugh and that grill! I'm taking CT6, XJ or S-Class everyday of the week & twice on Sunday! Detroit,MI
As for the design paths that Lexus chose....the interior hands down harbors the most creative choices I've seen in any automaker, save Bentley and RR. The exterior was almost a triple. It instead is a ground rule double, to me. The front is aggressive and stylish, the rear is ok. But where the LS falls short is aft of the b pillar. The way the belt line rises is super hideous! Not organic, like dare i say, the new BUICK LACROSSE. THE LEXUS belt line looks like it rises in stages. Outside of that, great job LEXUS, going in your own direction to an extent. Let's see if S Class and 7 Series owners stay loyal.....
Will a detuned version of the turbo engine make its way to the Lexus IS350? Infiniti ditched its 3.7L for a 3.0L twin turbo V6 and power output has finally started to compare to the Germans.
@motomanTV From what I understand, they call it the equivalent engine size. Like they named the LS 600HL because it had a comparable output to a 6.0 L Engine at the time. Like the LS 500 is powered by a 3.5 but makes similar power to 5L of displacement of this current era.
I like those little interior details you highlighted (such as the new Bentley Continental GT and 'Citroën' DS 7 Crossback) but mostly the front 3/4.That design looks dang good. Those who buy a Mercedes to customize it... Look no further than this Lexus LS.
The last Lexus LS came out in 2006, so it only took them 11 years to get around to updating their flagship sedan. I feel like LS buyers are now used to driving other cars like the S-Class or 7 Series. I'm sure that the new LS will be safe, reliable, comfortable, and have an amazing technology package. However, I really do not like the styling of the LS inside or out. I really don't like the spindle grille, and feel like the headlight design is busy. On the inside I think the door handles look like a horn, and everything feels aggressive and not relaxing.
i dont like that its lowered compared to the previous modell... they should raise the LS line. this should be not about sportperformance looks.... this should be about comfort + luxury.
Well likes - very different own approach, design is subjective. I prefer previous one. Not likes - too low and long nose. Luxury is about presence, not about how low and fast it can go. In the end, it should have retained something from previous one. I don't see beauty of extra pane window after rear door and useless ( cameras are getting better ). So, overall, driving RX would feel better, because you seat higher ( re-member Rolls R ? ).
personally, I'm thrilled to see Lexus finally embrace their Japanese heritage, rather than, as you said, trying to out-German the Germans. This is the first LS I've cared about since the Original LS set such a high bar.
Also, great meeting you and shooting with you!
Beautiful.
Very emotional and highly sculpted design. It looks like nothing else on the road the design is very Japanese. Lexus really have found their own path in this world of copy cats. That interior even in the dark finish you can tell it takes a back seat to no other luxury cars. Between the new LC500 and this new LS500 Lexus is doing a commendable job. This LS looks like it's a car for people who care about design aesthetic's and the small details.
All I can think about when watching a review of this car is : It's a Toyota at heart so everything will still be working great 10 years and 150K+ miles down the line. Unlike it's German counterparts which are beautiful but... an older German car meaning anything after 75K at the most and 5 years scares the shit out of me as far as reliability is concerned and the cost to fix them. If your not leasing a new German car than your on your own while this Japanese beast I would Love to pick up used say 3/4 years old-let someone else take the depreciation hit and I ride off into the sunset 🌅 with a great bang for the buck bargain.
You know what I'm going for the LS 460 F sport Midnight Edition I asked and I'm looking at around $92,000 but it's so damn beautiful
I actually like the lines a lot. Very sleek, immaculate detail and a nice amount of horsepower and torque for a 6 cylinder. 10-speed transmission is amazing and for a two-ton-plus car, a 5.2 0-60 is good. I do know that a lot of previous F-Sport Lexus models have been ultra-stiff - so much so that salesmen were providing warnings when I went to take a look. I am curious if that is still the case or if the changes from comfort, sport, and sport+ handle it better than in the past?
Comparing it with Porsche Panamera because it almost looks like it , its reliability and cheeping cost of services...
I'm not impressed with the exterior design. I know it's subjective, but to me it looks too much like the Infiniti from side profile. But obviously it's a great car. I am the proud owner of the LS430 which you can see in my channel. I love it, it only has a little north of 100k miles and I hope to drive it north of 300k. I still get compliments on it, as a matter of fact I had it at the car wash just a couple days ago and someone jokingly asked if I wanted to trade cars. He said "man that is beautiful"
Interesting how Lexus seems to be making sure that the LS does not compete directly with the S-Class.
Do they have a hole card coming for that battle, or have they given up, and this is their fold?
This will stay in the mid-$70's base price range
They shouldn't call it a "500" if it isn't displacing 5.0 liters. All this time the number represented the displacement by one tenth. I.e. ls400 was a 4.0, ls430 was a 4.3, etc.
I love the headlights. They are completely unique. I also love the interior outside of the 2 knobs on either side of the IP. Reminds me of Shrek, or something from the 80's.
Two things I don't like. 1. Lack of headroom for taller people. A flagship should be long but also give some space up top. Needs another inch or two. Form shouldn't impede on function. 2. The long and low front end looks like it's going to scrape on more than a few curbs.
I love the new side look, slightly similar to Tesla. Rear is almost the same as the old and still great! Where I have a problem is with the front, for now I don't like the grill, it's just too much. It's like a photo of a woman sitting on a couch wearing a mini skirt, the knees draw all the attention away from rest of the pic. Here IMHO I think the grill could be better. The performance is impressive but the stitching on the seats lol just way too much. As expected the dash is sort of in line with other manufacturers this includes rear seat comforts. Would I buy one? Yes of course! In about a year from now I guess the grill will grow on me.
Yuck. Not a fan of the Asian design. Just way overdone and still doesn't look premium. Just like a glossed up Avelon.
The side reminds me of an older model Fat Infinity.. The inside reminds me of an older model Toyota Avalon 2003... Not impressed at all.
Photos and videos of this new Lexus look good to my eyes. The new LS500 appears to have a lowered beltline with better balance between the car body and the greenhouse. From some angles it reminds me of the Porsche Panamera highlighted by lots of little busy Lexus styling touches that I guess some people like. Car styling is best featured on the street surrounded by other cars. That's the best way to appreciate overall design.
My thoughts and one of the reasons that put me off Lexus, is the look, feel and functionality of the infotainment screen. It looks outdated, feels sluggish, and just not that intuitive. Lexus really needs to do something about the visuals and the graphics. I know it's Japanese but they can have an elegance to to it, doesn't necessarily have to look like we just turned on PlayStation 3. 😜
Finally! Lexus goes it's own way! I rather like what I see here inside this car! Hopefully, Lexus stays true to it's own designs for the LS.
Love the color actually...no car gets my consideration until the Moto Man has reviewed it...period!
I love that Lexus is doing their own thing and I think this a great evolution of the LS, BUT I really wish they kept with the heritage of the V8. The LC has a amazing 5.0, why could we not have that here?
What I like is that I believe that this car drives and rides more comfortably and effortlessly than the previous generation car . What I don’t like is that I guess they’ve scraped out a few luxury options like the cooler box and folding tray tables in the executive rear seats and also would have loved to see a better UI for the infotainment system along with Apple Carplay and android auto .
I don't know if there is enough differentiation in terms of power train or performance from the competition. I think Lexus loyalists and anyone who wants a reliable car will stick with Lexus. For everyone else, the three year lease crowd, the German alternatives are probably far better choices.
why not just buy a jag f-type? its cheaper, it has more horses, more heritage, and more fun. after all, thats what a sport car ought to be - fun. enough of this responsible, glorified hyundai nonsense.
I admit when Lexus changed the spindle grille I was meh. Seemed like they were just riveted on without much thought. But here it makes sense. The entire exterior looks 'whole'. The interior is intriguing too. When the local dealer gets them in I'll go take a look-see.
I love the front end ... the rear end is quite beautiful as well ... I don't like there rear quarter panels / window section ... I am simply in love with the interior ... that glass detail and origami suede treatment is gorgeous and so Japanese ... I am glad they are highlighting their Japanese roots here for sure
I couldn't help but pause over and over on the engine shots. No belts, nothing but chains and gears.... assuming no lube issues that is going to be a 200K+ engine with almost no service.
i like the competence of the chassis, still to see how superior it would be against s class and 7 series, jaguar xj etc.. wheels and body looks very attractive, the ls is kinda special. i don't like how it looks too modern in the front. maybe in the back too.. never saw it in person, won't even know how it feels in the interior, tht looks very modern too.
previous generation long wheelbase version was available in both the standard V8 engine and the hybrid, not just the hybrid.
I LOVE THE DESIGN, IT TRULY FLOWS...THE INTERIOR WILL TAKE SOME GETTING USE TOO, AS I'M A BMW 5 SERIES GUY. I LIKE THE WHEELS, I LOVE THE CHROME ACCENTS AND GRILL DESIGN, WHICH I WASN'T A BIG FAN OF WITH OTHER MODELS. I CERTAINLY HOPE THEY HAVE BETTER COLOR SELECTION AND INTERIOR COLOR COMBINATIONS. I WOULD DEFINITELY LEASE THIS CAR, NO DOUBT, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO TEST DRIVE IT FIRST. RGEE
Stick a 5.0l v8 in it and it'd be the perfect car, hate all these small displacement forced induction engines that seem to find their way in to modern luxury cars
Seen the F Sport it looks so much better. And it's that not big of a change visually... Funny ?
I really don't like that it's a V6. People shopping in this class of car prefer a V8 engine. The design of the car inside and out is a winner imo.
I love the interior (its a work of art)! but I could not own one because the exterior looks like three vehicles glued together to make one. BAD!
The only thing I wish is that we saw some of the tech in what the car offers to the driver. I understand you have a drive video coming up for it so hopefully you'll cover the infotainment as well
It looks odd with the wide angle lens you are using. It will probably look better with normal/telephoto lens.
At some angles the car does look a little weird, but i have seen it in person and the car looks amazing. It has understated presence. This is a for real, competitor to the likes, S class or 7 series.
do not like the knobs on the top sides of the drivers instrument panel. Looks like horns or something, seems out of place. Any reason why the designers put them there?
My mom had a 1990 LS400. What amazes me is that I can see that car in this one. I can't quite make it out why I do.
the car is nice, the details about it are interesting, one thing though. you could put the specs on the screen each time you talk about them, it just makes it easier to follow.
Looks, i think overall a pleasing design, but not crazy about the front face.
I'm I the only one that is discussed by the fact that you can't even see the engine cuz all the igky plastic covering it
I don't like how the back how it flows like a hunchback , I hate the rims , I hate that it became 6 cylinders
The interior is just beautiful
The exterior looks nice but a little weird muby with time it will grow on me
But the real star here is the interior its just staning in every regard
I'm telling y all Lexus and Ford are working together behind the scenes
I like how you opened the hood but you still can't really see anything because it's all covered up
it is a really good looking car but I would have to sit in it to say what I like or don't like but as for now I will say the floor mat is what I like :P
Wonderful design; the only thing not to like is the 350tt thing instead of 500 like in the lc500.
This guys at Toyota/Lexus build their cars with passion, period
A Lexus is a Lexus. Period. Japanese Technology at its finest.
and another thing - the footage is great, too bad it's only 1080p 30 fps.
the genesis G90 has a 124 inch wheelbase, while the BMW 7 series has a 126 inch wheelbase.