Let's take a look at the new HPI Maverick Quantum 2 XT RC Basher Truggy! Can it beat the Traxxas Ruster and Arrma Vorteks while still being cheaper? Let's find out!
Watching this makes me feel like my time on TH-cam is done and my presence no longer needed. How you manage to unbox, do a tare-down, 2 run videos and upgrade a truck in under 15min is mind blowing to me. Not to mention do a mini review at the end. It's just... how?? I'm supposed to be getting this truck as well and installing a bunch of upgrades on it, but I honestly don't think it's worth my time when you put out content like this. And you haven't even cracked 20k subs yet, which is absolutely insane!! I've got 3 times the subs, get half the views you get and 1/3 the comments. Well done man!! Really, well done. You've taken RC content to a whole new level and I can't keep up with this. In fact, I don't know too many others that can either. Bravo, sir. 👏
Thanks man I'm glad you enjoy! That being said whereas there are definitely people who enjoy my style of editing there are also a lot of people out there that enjoy a more laid-back relaxed style of video. I think you'll enjoy the truck. I was hoping to get upgrades for it as well but wasn't going to be able to get them in time to make the video. Looking forward to seeing your opinion on it! It's definitely not perfect but it's a heck of a lot better than the first version.
@@DoRCmaybe you missed it, but I've had the MT version for months now and it's a tank. No doubt the ST will be equally as tough and the bonus is I do love the look of it a lot. 😎 Thanks for the compliments about what I do, but my style is dated now and after 12 years of evolving my content to what it is today, it doesn't hold a candle to what you're doing. I'll keep chugging along for a while yet, but it's clear you've taken top spot when it comes to RC reviews. At least for me, anyway... 😊
@AussieRCPlayground Yeah I saw the other version I was mostly talking about the upgrades. I'm really curious to see how they hold up as I haven't really experienced Maverick upgrades before. Thanks again for the awesome compliments! I'm glad you enjoy as I've watched your videos for many years and I've always enjoyed them!
@@AussieRCPlayground awesome fair play attitude! 👌👏👏👏 I also like @DoRC 's content a lot and believe he's unique in some aspects. That being said, everyone's unique... I'm sure a lot of people prefer your style and the way you do your stuff. If you enjoy it, keep doing it!!! 💪 I believe I've seen some of your as well. :)
I love this style of video man. Not many people have a thorough breakdown like you do. It really shows the build quality and finer details between different vehicles. Keep it up dude.
2:19 sliding adjustable motor mount is great for race-ready pro kits. But for beginners, it's better to be safe and not allow them to overgear. I vote for preset mesh cos I don't really care about racing and finding that sweet balance spot between acceleration and top speed vs max temperatures. Thanks for the reviews. An in-depth review helps to choose wisely A LOT.
Having a sliding mount doesn't necessarily mean you can over gear as long as they limit the range of motion. Personally I like the adjustability cuz I want to get my mesh exactly right but I see the appeal of the fixed position
Weird. I've had primarily adjustable mounts most of the last 20 years I've been in the hobby and whereas I have had motors shift occasionally it's not something I would say is a common occurrence.
Opening a receiver and a servo to check for o-rings and conformal coating??! Where have you been all my life???? 😍😍😍😍😍 😂😂😂 I get 85% of my RC enjoyment from wrenching so this level of rig-gutting and exploring is really my cup of tea! Keep it coming! 🙏 Have seen some good reviews on this Quantum and strong opinions stating how much it's a good option considering price/quality. I haven't added a basher to my collection yet, but I'll go with something like this when I do. Cheers!
Looks like a good beginner option. But at $275 (on Amain) I would probably spend $325 for the Vorteks. If you stick to 3S the Vorteks is way faster, has better aftermarket support, and judging solely by your footage handles significantly better. But having said all that...I would not be disappointed to add the Maverick to my stable.
Not sure how much faster the Vorteks actually would be. With proper gearing this thing almost certainly can go quite a bit faster on the stock system and it has a very similar amount of power to the vortex. Handling Yeah I think this truck sacrifices some handling for some ground clearance and the shocks probably aren't tuned perfectly. I'd say the vortex is probably the safer option though options are good!
@@DoRC Straight out of the box the Vorteks runs 55mph on pavement and 49 on my gravel rd. Both verified with my GNSS. I have never felt the need to install the included speed pinion. I'm not trying to put the Maverick down...just pointing out that is not really in the same class as the Vorteks. Great beginner truck though.
@@ThEtEcHnOsAm I guess i'm lucky. I have had no issues with my diffs or slipper (yet) in the year or so I have owned my Vorteks. I know other folks have not been so lucky.
It looks awesome and the design tickles my brain, just like the Kagama! Looks to be a solid choice. It would be nice to see a center diff, considering it probably wouldn’t cost too much more. You know what would be an interesting video? A video/summary of all the RCs you end up keeping after reviewing and playing around with them. It would show which RCs really hold up over time… maybe an update video on every RC you kept from 2023 and how it’s doing?
To be fair that would be a pretty short video. I'm not sure I have any cars from 2023. It is very rare I keep something longer than 6 months. It's just hard to justify with all the new stuff I have to buy for videos.
@@DoRCinteresting! I wasn’t expecting that. How big is your collection (not counting mini/amazon bashers)? Off the top of my head, the ones I see in recurring videos are usually the MT410 1.0, the Hobao Hyper MTX, maybe the Kagama… Also, a while back I think you offered to make me a bash bumper with your laser machine, in a T bone style- well now I finally have the perfect car for it! If the offer is still open, I will measure my LC racing LC12B1 chassis tomorrow :) Keep up the great work! My favorite RC TH-camr by far
The old original Quantum would have broken a dozen times over, I have the original Quantum & this new Quantum2. Night & day difference between the 2 versions. Quantum2 is great value for the money & pretty durable, HPI/Maverick has done a good job with this new truck. Even the radio is a nice uprade over the old alien looking radio lol.
Yeah to be honest with you I almost feel like they shouldn't have even named it quantum. It's a completely different vehicle and I feel like keeping that name kind of carries over the stigma of the first generation vehicles
We have the MT Monster Truck, and we agree that this is an awesome car, on pair with Rustler and Vorteks but a much lower price. It does surprise us that you doesn't mention the great stock servo - it's the best servo we have seen in a RTR car 👍
Slipper clutches on big wheeled 1 /10 vehicles are becoming a thing of the past the amount of power being thrown into these new vehicles is increasing with every new release
Yeah I guess it depends on the brand. Traxxas and Arrma still have them but it seems like most new models coming out don't have them anymore. This is a pretty light car so on 3S I don't think it's too bad though I do wish they had designed it in such a way that you could install a center differential as an option. I think that's a great thing to do. They can save the money by doing a slipper clutch but give you the option to spend that money afterward
Nice looking truck, love how you mentioned the hardware because that is a huge deal when working on RC’s. Looks like a lot of fun!! Looks pretty tough too!! Again another great video!!! Price seems great also. Stay awesome 🤘🏻
@DoRC thank you for taking the extra time to film it i like all your videos and i wanted to let you know i appreciate the time and work you do to show everyone
Love the deep dives you do in reviews. You pointed this but when it comes to bashers, there are things that were perceived as negatives I actually prefer for ease of maintenance and/or longevity. In other words, I think some of the negatives are really, really small. Grease in the diff. Okay so it was a sealed diff so they probably should have put fluid but so long as the diff grease is thick (one can always pack in more thicken it up even more) and the feeling isn't wide open & free? It's fine. You'll never have a leaky diff with grease. ;) Also I really prefer plastic links. They flex and are tougher than adjustable links IMO. If nothing else, they're by far cheaper to replace than a high dollar metal link. Unless someone is competitive racing where they're altering toe, camber, etc, 99% of bashers don't need adjustable links for bashing. Many wouldn't notice the difference anyways, between a degree or two. They're just looking for "can it survive big jumps when I send it."
I agree about the reality of deficiencies versus the perception. The grease and the differentials in a car like this really isn't a problem other than if someone wants to tune them with oil and has to deal with removing it. That being said when you're selling something perception is everything because people don't actually get it until they've already paid for it. The perception of grease in a differential is "cheap" and thats definitely something that should be avoided at all costs especially if that cost is a penny or two.
Always enjoy how thorough your reviews are but still to the point. And running footage is good. I rarely consider an overseas product but with HPI pedigree and support through Amain, this makes a compelling argument 👍
I hope they make a xt+. Centre diff and all HD hardware. I have the original xt+ and with a bit of tuning and slight upgrades, it's actually a very fun truggy. And hopefully they have learnt from the past. I guess time will tell. Good review.
Been really tempted by one of these! Would love to see you gear it up and see what the stock electrics can actually do though? Glad to see the reciver box could be removed for a longer motor too!
I'll have to leave that to someone else as I probably could not make another video out of just that. They're definitely feels like there's plenty left on the table though so I don't think 45 off-road is out of the question.
@@DoRC I went up to a 15t or 16t pinion ( whatever the largest pinion it will take ) cant remember off hand what it was. It did wake the truck up some, not that it wasnt bad stock for off road bashing.
On small head countersunk screws like that, you end up with a tiny hex driver size. Something like 1.5mm Hex which can be too small and snap driver tips.
you hit the ball out of the park again. Or you pulled the trigger out of the BMX track again. either way... nice video. and very well done by your CEO, Chief of Operation and videographer. lol. I didnt see or didnt look hard enough but have you done a video on the typhon grom? Duperbash just did one at a skatepark and looks awesome, upgrades and seem to be a good car. have fun.
Thanks I'll let the videographer CEO COO editor producer and publisher know! Coincidentally they're all right here in the same room with me at the moment. Yes I have a few videos on the Typhon Grom.
Looks like a decent car but ask yourself this question. The Rustler and Vorteks have much more option parts and upgrades plus part supply is better. And to be fair your now getting the heavy duty kit for the same price as the older one. So is it really worth it? Great video as always man!
Yeah that's always going to be an individual thing. I think if someone were to ask me what they should buy as a first car or an only basher or something like that I'd recommend going with Arrma or Traxxas simply because they are very well known quantities and your guaranteed to be able to get parts and upgrades for them. That being said if you've been in the hobby for a while and have some cars already and are just interested in trying something new this is a pretty sweet ride and I would definitely recommend giving it a try.
I love my vorteks 3s, just like all arrmas its a great running car and easy to work on and upgrade, this car looks like a great car on its own merit but the vorteks is a better option in my opinion.
Yeah I think it just depends on what you're looking for. This is significantly cheaper and has some bits that the vortex lacks but of course you're going to get better parts support more upgrades etc from the arrma
The only place they exist in the car are the differentials so it's a little bit less of a big deal then if the entire car were covered in them but it still seems silly.
Great channel man. I have the original "upgraded" XT Flux and really like it a lot. I haven't any problems at all, although I'm not bashing extremely hard. I haven't seen this one in person yet, but it appears to be very similar, minus only a few things. Have you used the upgraded V1 at all?
They do look somewhat similar but the quantum two and the original quantum don't really share much in common. The quantum two is a almost completely new platform. Yes I did have one of the originals and it was pretty weak. A lot of people had a lot of problems with them.
Yeah the suspension definitely needs a little bit of tweaking. I'm not sure the shock oil needs to go thicker though it feels pretty decent already but I'm definitely not the best suspension tuner.
Looks good (prefer the black wheels) get a lot for your money.. But the handling seemed off, though in saying that it's easy to misjudge how demanding terrain is without being there. Wouldnt mind getting my hands on one! But I suspect my preference would be my very mildly modded Vorteks BLX.
I'd say the handling isn't quite as good as some of the competition but what you saw in the videos is pretty much it running on the most challenging terrain because bouncing in sliding around is what makes for the best footage. It's reasonably stable when driven reasonably :-)
@marcus1970 Yeah it's the same reason why I occasionally I get comments by people saying I don't know how to drive. At least for me watching a vehicle drive smoothly and land perfectly is boring and also doesn't really show what it can actually handle.
Not sure id replace my rustler with this , i get it , that Traxxas are expensive. But they are quality . IMO. I just bought the MT. Maverick 2 ,i think its ok but i wouldnt put it on the same level as my rustler or my Vorteks . In fact may be sentimental but i like my rustler over over the vorteks 😊
There's definitely plenty to be sentimental about with the rustler. It's basically been the same car for the last 15 years I think :-) and yeah I wouldn't quite put this on the same quality level as the Traxxas in most respects but it's also a heck of a lot cheaper and you don't have to immediately replace the servo which is nice :-)
I really wish traxxas would do two things with the vxls. 1) give ALL of them the 2400kv motor and 2) give all of them the 6780 and discontinue 6780A. I refuse to believe they couldn’t because they did that with the hoss/stampede 4x4 with the exception of the 6780A diff, which the only difference is the 6781 diff casing. Their 4x4 3s models would be far more compelling if they did so. I love my second hand slash ultimate and rustler 4x4, but I can’t in good conscience recommend either new out of the box. I usually say go for the stampede and if you end up hating HCG like I do, a rustler chassis swap is easier and far cheaper than starting with a rustler and upgrading the motor, center diff and tires. Oh, and if you’re a slash diehard, just look for a used one.
Yeah there are definitely some parts on those cars that need to go. The 3S systems have been overworked for a long time and there's no excuse for that servo in today's day and age.
@@DoRC traxxas has a huge servo problem. They currently have TWELVE different standard size servos alone. Realistically, they could take the 2270 servo, use that in everything with a lower tier servo, and then if more power is required than that, use the 2275 in everything else. Axe the 2250 as well and just offer two brushless upgrade servos. Or axe the 2255 as well, it’s not a good servo anyway. Same goes for all the other servos. Any variant with plastic gears needs to be axed like 5 years ago.
@@dylanwhite6539 I completely agree. Obviously they can make good servos but there is not a single vehicle that they make that has a good servo out of the box.
@@DoRC it’s also baffling to me that they’re so bad when servos from Hobbystar aren’t even half the place of equal spec traxxas servos. I’ve basically switched all my cars to them I could. I still have the odd 2075x or R somewhere but they’re by no means good, just acceptable.
A center differential definitely is better but keep in mind that this is basically completely unrelated to the original quantums. They did a total redesign for the 2
I used to have the previous version which was the most unreliable car I've ever touched, but it was more powerful and MUCH better handling than these new gen ones. Those seem to be sluggish on 3s and they handle like bricks. Also the MT version looks like a generic kid's toy. At least this one looks cool.
Yeah definitely will say that handling is not this vehicle's strongest suit. Personally that doesn't really bother me as I'm mostly just jumping and smashing these cars up anyway but if you want to really good handling RC this probably isn't the way to go.
You shouldn't be allowed to do the very first review video on a new truck, no one will be able to compete. The best and most through overview, running, disassembly, mod and review in 15min 😂
Yeah it's about time for a refreshed 3S line though I don't expect a revolutionary upgrade. It'll probably be fairly small changes. The biggest? For me is whether or not it will have the center differential.
I will agree with that and going with a theme maybe a smaller version like the Mojave and stuff. We shall see. I do have the quantum in my cart at amain though. lol
What's the easiest way to tighten the slipper? Mine seems to be too lose out of the box and constantly kicks in now whilst on 3S. I've tried to get the back end off in the same way as you can with the Quantum 1 but it's not playing ball... I don't want to pry the shaft out of the cup too hard in case I need to do it in a different way. Thanks in advance!
Easiest thing to do is to grab the nut with a pair of needle nose pliers to hold it still and then roll the car forward to tighten the screw inside the nut.
Yeah the original quantums were not very good. This is a complete redesign though and basically only shares the quantum name. It might be worth another look.
Unfortunately from factory, grub screws come loose and strip drive train components for a lot of reviewers. Also front half of vehicle on this one is only held on by two screws on bottom of chassis which under bashing and stress would break right off. I think Omni terminator for price although not true 1/10 size is better built…. We’ll see how it works out for ya….
I wouldn't feel too bad. I think the Vorteks is a great car on a good platform and whereas there's always going to be cheaper stuff and always going to be more fancy stuff as long as you're happy with what you have that's all that matters.
@@politie_jip112 That's really hard to estimate simply because everybody's bashing style is different. You should get around 20 minutes with general casual bashing. If you're in grass it's going to be less if you're doing speed runs it's going to be less if you're bashing with a bunch of friends and your truck's just sitting there half the time it's going to be more etc.
All metal Drivetrain meaning metal outer driveshafts? Traxxas is all metal up to the driveshafts. And those maxx duty shafts are arguably more durable than metal. Mine have taken 4s abuse and don’t show the same wear dogbones do.
Well it means metal everything. I do agree that the most modern classic driveshafts are very strong though some people prefer metal just because they want metal so That's why I mentioned it. I think plastic can be pretty amazing these days
@@DoRC I guess when I think of metal drivetrain I mainly think of gears. I remember ARRMA advertising “tough metal gears” on the 3s line only to find out they meant just the diff internals. Shattered the input gears very easily.
@@dylanwhite6539 Yeah they're always a little creative with their descriptions. To me all metal means everything from the motor to the wheels is metal. I give a pass for the spur gear because especially not that long ago most spur gears on smaller vehicles were plastic regardless of the rest of the drivetrain.
@@dylanwhite6539 pretty much. I think this gear would have been fine with the stock system which honestly has plenty of power for this car especially if you geared it up a little bit. The Cobra 10 on 4S was kind of unfair to it though I am very impressed with how the whole thing held up. There were some nasty hits that I fully expected to break something.
Well for a small light 3S car like this a plastic spur gear really isn't that big of a deal. It would probably hold up just fine. The grease and the differentials? Yeah that's a head scratcher. I mean it's fine it's not like It doesn't work but it does kind of feel a little tone deaf to the current state of the hobby.
Yeah either way I don't think you'll be too disappointed. It's definitely not the most refined thing in the world as in not the best handling but its pretty tough dead simple to work on and I think represents decent value for money
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Watching this makes me feel like my time on TH-cam is done and my presence no longer needed. How you manage to unbox, do a tare-down, 2 run videos and upgrade a truck in under 15min is mind blowing to me. Not to mention do a mini review at the end. It's just... how??
I'm supposed to be getting this truck as well and installing a bunch of upgrades on it, but I honestly don't think it's worth my time when you put out content like this. And you haven't even cracked 20k subs yet, which is absolutely insane!! I've got 3 times the subs, get half the views you get and 1/3 the comments. Well done man!! Really, well done. You've taken RC content to a whole new level and I can't keep up with this. In fact, I don't know too many others that can either. Bravo, sir. 👏
Thanks man I'm glad you enjoy! That being said whereas there are definitely people who enjoy my style of editing there are also a lot of people out there that enjoy a more laid-back relaxed style of video.
I think you'll enjoy the truck. I was hoping to get upgrades for it as well but wasn't going to be able to get them in time to make the video. Looking forward to seeing your opinion on it! It's definitely not perfect but it's a heck of a lot better than the first version.
@@DoRCmaybe you missed it, but I've had the MT version for months now and it's a tank. No doubt the ST will be equally as tough and the bonus is I do love the look of it a lot. 😎
Thanks for the compliments about what I do, but my style is dated now and after 12 years of evolving my content to what it is today, it doesn't hold a candle to what you're doing. I'll keep chugging along for a while yet, but it's clear you've taken top spot when it comes to RC reviews. At least for me, anyway... 😊
@AussieRCPlayground Yeah I saw the other version I was mostly talking about the upgrades. I'm really curious to see how they hold up as I haven't really experienced Maverick upgrades before. Thanks again for the awesome compliments! I'm glad you enjoy as I've watched your videos for many years and I've always enjoyed them!
@@AussieRCPlayground awesome fair play attitude! 👌👏👏👏
I also like @DoRC 's content a lot and believe he's unique in some aspects. That being said, everyone's unique... I'm sure a lot of people prefer your style and the way you do your stuff. If you enjoy it, keep doing it!!! 💪
I believe I've seen some of your as well. :)
@just.jose.youtube I agree!
I love this style of video man. Not many people have a thorough breakdown like you do. It really shows the build quality and finer details between different vehicles. Keep it up dude.
Will do. Like I said in the video I'd be doing this anyway I'm just glad people want me to share it with them!
@@DoRC 💯
2:19 sliding adjustable motor mount is great for race-ready pro kits. But for beginners, it's better to be safe and not allow them to overgear. I vote for preset mesh cos I don't really care about racing and finding that sweet balance spot between acceleration and top speed vs max temperatures. Thanks for the reviews. An in-depth review helps to choose wisely A LOT.
As a shop the fixed mesh is so much better, motors nearly always move on adjustable ones
Having a sliding mount doesn't necessarily mean you can over gear as long as they limit the range of motion. Personally I like the adjustability cuz I want to get my mesh exactly right but I see the appeal of the fixed position
Weird. I've had primarily adjustable mounts most of the last 20 years I've been in the hobby and whereas I have had motors shift occasionally it's not something I would say is a common occurrence.
@@DoRC it would be nice if cars came with fixed but either have an adjustable mount in the box or available as an option
@@DoRC same amount of time as my shop and yeah it's a very common issue that and pinion gears coming loose where companies don't thread lock them
Opening a receiver and a servo to check for o-rings and conformal coating??! Where have you been all my life???? 😍😍😍😍😍 😂😂😂
I get 85% of my RC enjoyment from wrenching so this level of rig-gutting and exploring is really my cup of tea! Keep it coming! 🙏
Have seen some good reviews on this Quantum and strong opinions stating how much it's a good option considering price/quality.
I haven't added a basher to my collection yet, but I'll go with something like this when I do.
Cheers!
Yeah this is the stuff I would be doing even if I wasn't recording it so I'm glad people enjoy!
I have a couple of mavericks rc’s and they have been very durable so far. Fast enough to keep me smiling and fun enough for some bashing. Great video
Yeah the original monster truck and truggy had some pretty serious issues with durability but the new generation seems a lot better.
I know right ? That super flexible plastic is pretty sweet.
The goat 👍. “Let’s throw a 4s esc in and see what it can take “ nice 👏
Always got to push the limit!
Looks like a good beginner option. But at $275 (on Amain) I would probably spend $325 for the Vorteks. If you stick to 3S the Vorteks is way faster, has better aftermarket support, and judging solely by your footage handles significantly better. But having said all that...I would not be disappointed to add the Maverick to my stable.
My sentiments exactly.
Not sure how much faster the Vorteks actually would be. With proper gearing this thing almost certainly can go quite a bit faster on the stock system and it has a very similar amount of power to the vortex. Handling Yeah I think this truck sacrifices some handling for some ground clearance and the shocks probably aren't tuned perfectly. I'd say the vortex is probably the safer option though options are good!
@@DoRC Straight out of the box the Vorteks runs 55mph on pavement and 49 on my gravel rd. Both verified with my GNSS. I have never felt the need to install the included speed pinion. I'm not trying to put the Maverick down...just pointing out that is not really in the same class as the Vorteks. Great beginner truck though.
Remembrrthe cost of the metal diffs for the Vorteks. If I was to buy a smaller basher again it would be this or a 4S Arrma instead
@@ThEtEcHnOsAm I guess i'm lucky. I have had no issues with my diffs or slipper (yet) in the year or so I have owned my Vorteks. I know other folks have not been so lucky.
It looks awesome and the design tickles my brain, just like the Kagama! Looks to be a solid choice. It would be nice to see a center diff, considering it probably wouldn’t cost too much more.
You know what would be an interesting video? A video/summary of all the RCs you end up keeping after reviewing and playing around with them. It would show which RCs really hold up over time… maybe an update video on every RC you kept from 2023 and how it’s doing?
To be fair that would be a pretty short video. I'm not sure I have any cars from 2023. It is very rare I keep something longer than 6 months. It's just hard to justify with all the new stuff I have to buy for videos.
@@DoRCinteresting! I wasn’t expecting that. How big is your collection (not counting mini/amazon bashers)? Off the top of my head, the ones I see in recurring videos are usually the MT410 1.0, the Hobao Hyper MTX, maybe the Kagama…
Also, a while back I think you offered to make me a bash bumper with your laser machine, in a T bone style- well now I finally have the perfect car for it! If the offer is still open, I will measure my LC racing LC12B1 chassis tomorrow :)
Keep up the great work! My favorite RC TH-camr by far
The old original Quantum would have broken a dozen times over, I have the original Quantum & this new Quantum2. Night & day difference between the 2 versions. Quantum2 is great value for the money & pretty durable, HPI/Maverick has done a good job with this new truck. Even the radio is a nice uprade over the old alien looking radio lol.
Yeah to be honest with you I almost feel like they shouldn't have even named it quantum. It's a completely different vehicle and I feel like keeping that name kind of carries over the stigma of the first generation vehicles
Great break down and review on this truck. Thanks👍
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching :-)
We have the MT Monster Truck, and we agree that this is an awesome car, on pair with Rustler and Vorteks but a much lower price. It does surprise us that you doesn't mention the great stock servo - it's the best servo we have seen in a RTR car 👍
I think the fact that I didn't say anything about it is probably the best compliment. To me a servo is usually only noticeable when it sucks :-)
Slipper clutches on big wheeled 1 /10 vehicles are becoming a thing of the past the amount of power being thrown into these new vehicles is increasing with every new release
Yeah I guess it depends on the brand. Traxxas and Arrma still have them but it seems like most new models coming out don't have them anymore. This is a pretty light car so on 3S I don't think it's too bad though I do wish they had designed it in such a way that you could install a center differential as an option. I think that's a great thing to do. They can save the money by doing a slipper clutch but give you the option to spend that money afterward
Nice showcase of this rc!
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
Nice looking truck, love how you mentioned the hardware because that is a huge deal when working on RC’s. Looks like a lot of fun!! Looks pretty tough too!! Again another great video!!! Price seems great also. Stay awesome 🤘🏻
Absolutely. Cheap fasteners can ruin repairability on a car.
I like how much you go into on showing us everything in these vehicles
Glad you enjoy. Honestly I would be doing it anyway so it's awesome that people share the interest!
@DoRC thank you for taking the extra time to film it i like all your videos and i wanted to let you know i appreciate the time and work you do to show everyone
@@Crawlingrc3903 Glad you enjoy!
Great quality video as always!
Thanks Glad you've enjoyed!
Love your vids! Thanks for covering this rc
Thanks for watching!
Love the deep dives you do in reviews. You pointed this but when it comes to bashers, there are things that were perceived as negatives I actually prefer for ease of maintenance and/or longevity. In other words, I think some of the negatives are really, really small. Grease in the diff. Okay so it was a sealed diff so they probably should have put fluid but so long as the diff grease is thick (one can always pack in more thicken it up even more) and the feeling isn't wide open & free? It's fine. You'll never have a leaky diff with grease. ;) Also I really prefer plastic links. They flex and are tougher than adjustable links IMO. If nothing else, they're by far cheaper to replace than a high dollar metal link. Unless someone is competitive racing where they're altering toe, camber, etc, 99% of bashers don't need adjustable links for bashing. Many wouldn't notice the difference anyways, between a degree or two. They're just looking for "can it survive big jumps when I send it."
I agree about the reality of deficiencies versus the perception. The grease and the differentials in a car like this really isn't a problem other than if someone wants to tune them with oil and has to deal with removing it. That being said when you're selling something perception is everything because people don't actually get it until they've already paid for it. The perception of grease in a differential is "cheap" and thats definitely something that should be avoided at all costs especially if that cost is a penny or two.
Always enjoy how thorough your reviews are but still to the point. And running footage is good. I rarely consider an overseas product but with HPI pedigree and support through Amain, this makes a compelling argument 👍
Having the support of a major distributor like a main definitely increases its legitimacy
I hope they make a xt+. Centre diff and all HD hardware. I have the original xt+ and with a bit of tuning and slight upgrades, it's actually a very fun truggy. And hopefully they have learnt from the past. I guess time will tell. Good review.
An option with a center differential would be awesome
Great videos as always, thank u! Would love to see a comparison between this and the MT version.
I'm sure other channels will do it though I don't suspect I will end up getting the mt. They're going to be pretty similar though
Been really tempted by one of these!
Would love to see you gear it up and see what the stock electrics can actually do though?
Glad to see the reciver box could be removed for a longer motor too!
I'll have to leave that to someone else as I probably could not make another video out of just that. They're definitely feels like there's plenty left on the table though so I don't think 45 off-road is out of the question.
@@DoRC I went up to a 15t or 16t pinion ( whatever the largest pinion it will take ) cant remember off hand what it was. It did wake the truck up some, not that it wasnt bad stock for off road bashing.
Only RC channel I need. Awesome video like always
Thanks man Glad you enjoyed :-)
I enjoyed the MT version so I'll be ordering this !
Do you have the quantum 2 MT?
good review..i have the MT and it is a great value for the 💰
Yeah it's not the most sophisticated truck in the world but it's definitely a good one!
I love the way you talk Brother your voice is awesome.why you’re not extremely famous is beyond me
Thanks I'm glad you enjoy!
There's a couple of things coming out that I think might be a tick better at the price point shortly. I'm going to hold off.
Such as?
On small head countersunk screws like that, you end up with a tiny hex driver size. Something like 1.5mm Hex which can be too small and snap driver tips.
True but this isn't a small diff. Plenty of other manufacturers have made diffs of similar size and managed to use larger Allen head screws.
Diff looks to be very similar to the redcat shredder diffs. That's pretty good size wise for a truck that small.
These are actually quite a bit bigger than the shredder differentials. They're identical to the machete diffs
@@DoRC that's incredible
you hit the ball out of the park again. Or you pulled the trigger out of the BMX track again. either way... nice video. and very well done by your CEO, Chief of Operation and videographer. lol. I didnt see or didnt look hard enough but have you done a video on the typhon grom? Duperbash just did one at a skatepark and looks awesome, upgrades and seem to be a good car. have fun.
Thanks I'll let the videographer CEO COO editor producer and publisher know! Coincidentally they're all right here in the same room with me at the moment.
Yes I have a few videos on the Typhon Grom.
great video I was between this one and the Hyper go 10208 but I already bought the Hyper go I'm still waiting for it
I think you'll like it. It's not exactly the most refined vehicle in the world but it's pretty fun for sure!
This would have been way better!
Looks like a decent car but ask yourself this question. The Rustler and Vorteks have much more option parts and upgrades plus part supply is better. And to be fair your now getting the heavy duty kit for the same price as the older one. So is it really worth it? Great video as always man!
Yeah that's always going to be an individual thing. I think if someone were to ask me what they should buy as a first car or an only basher or something like that I'd recommend going with Arrma or Traxxas simply because they are very well known quantities and your guaranteed to be able to get parts and upgrades for them. That being said if you've been in the hobby for a while and have some cars already and are just interested in trying something new this is a pretty sweet ride and I would definitely recommend giving it a try.
I love my vorteks 3s, just like all arrmas its a great running car and easy to work on and upgrade, this car looks like a great car on its own merit but the vorteks is a better option in my opinion.
Yeah I think it just depends on what you're looking for. This is significantly cheaper and has some bits that the vortex lacks but of course you're going to get better parts support more upgrades etc from the arrma
Great video Nice RC car definitely better than the 2 Wheel Drive rustler Definitely gonna get me one
Yeah this would compare more closely to the four-wheel drive version but it definitely represents decent value for money.
Phillips self tapping screw's is a huge deal breaker for me. I won't deal with that.
The only place they exist in the car are the differentials so it's a little bit less of a big deal then if the entire car were covered in them but it still seems silly.
Those are some large outdrive cups for this size 👍.
Yeah the entire driveline is very stout Not only for the size but for how light this car is. It really is a featherweight
Great channel man. I have the original "upgraded" XT Flux and really like it a lot. I haven't any problems at all, although I'm not bashing extremely hard. I haven't seen this one in person yet, but it appears to be very similar, minus only a few things. Have you used the upgraded V1 at all?
They do look somewhat similar but the quantum two and the original quantum don't really share much in common. The quantum two is a almost completely new platform. Yes I did have one of the originals and it was pretty weak. A lot of people had a lot of problems with them.
@@DoRC Yeah the original seemed terribly weak. Did you have the original V1 or the upgrade with the HD parts and 80a esc? Thanks for the info!
hey, it's the Ultimate Rustler. And for reasons unknown, I paid $519 for it.
Yeah I realized that when I was editing it. I think I was watching videos on the Platinum Revo a couple days ago and that got stuck in my head
Those are the same shocks style from the 1st version. Heavier shock oil and they are fine. Definitely better after tune.
Yeah the suspension definitely needs a little bit of tweaking. I'm not sure the shock oil needs to go thicker though it feels pretty decent already but I'm definitely not the best suspension tuner.
Good positive review. I just put an order in for one at Modelsport uk.
Sweet let me know how you like it!
Looks good (prefer the black wheels) get a lot for your money.. But the handling seemed off, though in saying that it's easy to misjudge how demanding terrain is without being there.
Wouldnt mind getting my hands on one! But I suspect my preference would be my very mildly modded Vorteks BLX.
I'd say the handling isn't quite as good as some of the competition but what you saw in the videos is pretty much it running on the most challenging terrain because bouncing in sliding around is what makes for the best footage. It's reasonably stable when driven reasonably :-)
@@DoRC sure, has to look dynamic for the content... and you don't disappoint 👍🏻
@marcus1970 Yeah it's the same reason why I occasionally I get comments by people saying I don't know how to drive. At least for me watching a vehicle drive smoothly and land perfectly is boring and also doesn't really show what it can actually handle.
Not sure id replace my rustler with this , i get it , that Traxxas are expensive. But they are quality . IMO. I just bought the MT. Maverick 2 ,i think its ok but i wouldnt put it on the same level as my rustler or my Vorteks .
In fact may be sentimental but i like my rustler over over the vorteks 😊
There's definitely plenty to be sentimental about with the rustler. It's basically been the same car for the last 15 years I think :-) and yeah I wouldn't quite put this on the same quality level as the Traxxas in most respects but it's also a heck of a lot cheaper and you don't have to immediately replace the servo which is nice :-)
@@DoRC
Lolz i must be very Lucky Ive not changed the Stock electronics in either my Slash or my Rustler . 🤫🤐 dont speak too soon.
I really wish traxxas would do two things with the vxls. 1) give ALL of them the 2400kv motor and 2) give all of them the 6780 and discontinue 6780A. I refuse to believe they couldn’t because they did that with the hoss/stampede 4x4 with the exception of the 6780A diff, which the only difference is the 6781 diff casing. Their 4x4 3s models would be far more compelling if they did so. I love my second hand slash ultimate and rustler 4x4, but I can’t in good conscience recommend either new out of the box. I usually say go for the stampede and if you end up hating HCG like I do, a rustler chassis swap is easier and far cheaper than starting with a rustler and upgrading the motor, center diff and tires. Oh, and if you’re a slash diehard, just look for a used one.
Yeah there are definitely some parts on those cars that need to go. The 3S systems have been overworked for a long time and there's no excuse for that servo in today's day and age.
@@DoRC traxxas has a huge servo problem. They currently have TWELVE different standard size servos alone. Realistically, they could take the 2270 servo, use that in everything with a lower tier servo, and then if more power is required than that, use the 2275 in everything else. Axe the 2250 as well and just offer two brushless upgrade servos. Or axe the 2255 as well, it’s not a good servo anyway. Same goes for all the other servos. Any variant with plastic gears needs to be axed like 5 years ago.
@@dylanwhite6539 I completely agree. Obviously they can make good servos but there is not a single vehicle that they make that has a good servo out of the box.
@@DoRC it’s also baffling to me that they’re so bad when servos from Hobbystar aren’t even half the place of equal spec traxxas servos. I’ve basically switched all my cars to them I could. I still have the odd 2075x or R somewhere but they’re by no means good, just acceptable.
I want one immediately
Do it!
@@DoRC I’ll have to save up some monies I got an MT10 last month
For me the biggest con is the slipper. I need me a center diff, and I haven’t heard good things about the quantum+ model
A center differential definitely is better but keep in mind that this is basically completely unrelated to the original quantums. They did a total redesign for the 2
Just not a fan of slipper clutches. If it had a center diff I wouldn’t even have to think about it
I agree but it keeps the price down, I would keep it 3s if you want a 4s you have Corally's and Arrma's
Yeah they're not my favorite either.
For sure. This is a 3S truck. I only put 4S in it because I wanted to see what it could take.
Has a good look 👌
Yeah it's definitely a good looking truck!
@@DoRC 💯
I used to have the previous version which was the most unreliable car I've ever touched, but it was more powerful and MUCH better handling than these new gen ones. Those seem to be sluggish on 3s and they handle like bricks. Also the MT version looks like a generic kid's toy. At least this one looks cool.
Yeah definitely will say that handling is not this vehicle's strongest suit. Personally that doesn't really bother me as I'm mostly just jumping and smashing these cars up anyway but if you want to really good handling RC this probably isn't the way to go.
yes these look really good!
Overall for the price it seems decent.
@@DoRC absolutely mate, hoping to pick one up. Once parts supply is good here i think my son will love one.
You shouldn't be allowed to do the very first review video on a new truck, no one will be able to compete. The best and most through overview, running, disassembly, mod and review in 15min 😂
I'm glad you enjoyed it! It is just one man's opinion though. I'm sure people will be interested to hear what others have to say about it.
EXCELLENT REVIEW.!! 👍 👍 👍
Thanks :-)
£180 for the brushed version in the UK... That's the way I'll be going.! 😉
Nice!
How do you know it's half priced compared to the rustler???? I can't find any shops that sells it
Amain sells them. That's where I bought mine
Considering all the vorteks are on back order a new version is likely on its way.
Yeah it's about time for a refreshed 3S line though I don't expect a revolutionary upgrade. It'll probably be fairly small changes. The biggest? For me is whether or not it will have the center differential.
I will agree with that and going with a theme maybe a smaller version like the Mojave and stuff. We shall see. I do have the quantum in my cart at amain though. lol
Awesome
Yeah it's a pretty cool truck!
I think it’s £250 hear but if I pick one up I’ll clean and fill the diff and buy the steal spur gear
Yeah I think if you're going to stay on the stock plastic spur is probably fine but it certainly did not last long on Cobra 10 power!
Plastic is fine for 3s it's quieter as well
Where we gonna buy these ? I want it - I got the truck
I bought mine on a main
What's the easiest way to tighten the slipper? Mine seems to be too lose out of the box and constantly kicks in now whilst on 3S. I've tried to get the back end off in the same way as you can with the Quantum 1 but it's not playing ball... I don't want to pry the shaft out of the cup too hard in case I need to do it in a different way. Thanks in advance!
Easiest thing to do is to grab the nut with a pair of needle nose pliers to hold it still and then roll the car forward to tighten the screw inside the nut.
@@DoRC Thanks for the quick response! I just tried it and the wheels just locked and slid, nothing would budge :(
It cool man
Agreed :-)
I bought one earlier model of this brand. It was total junk. Even with upgrades. NEVER again.
Yeah the original quantums were not very good. This is a complete redesign though and basically only shares the quantum name. It might be worth another look.
@@DoRC Nah. I got burned. It's all good though. I have enough with my Traxxas and Arrma rigs 👍
Understandable. Especially in monster truck form the original platform was pretty weak.
Unfortunately from factory, grub screws come loose and strip drive train components for a lot of reviewers. Also front half of vehicle on this one is only held on by two screws on bottom of chassis which under bashing and stress would break right off. I think Omni terminator for price although not true 1/10 size is better built…. We’ll see how it works out for ya….
Haven't had that happen yet on mine. Which grub screws?
How many chassis have you seen break?
I must say you are great at fixing and upgrading but - bad driver lol
Most of those crashes are on purpose. Can't really see how durable a car is if you never wreck it :-)
I feel horrible spending 500$ on my vorteks😂
I wouldn't feel too bad. I think the Vorteks is a great car on a good platform and whereas there's always going to be cheaper stuff and always going to be more fancy stuff as long as you're happy with what you have that's all that matters.
Could of got a traxxas maxx for that sort of money 😅😅
i hope they are going to brink parts to the netherlands we dont have that for maverick besides the ion line and atom
that's surprising with them coming from Denmark
Hopefully they do!
@@DoRC do you know how long the stock battery from the arrma mojave grom lastst?
@@politie_jip112 That's really hard to estimate simply because everybody's bashing style is different. You should get around 20 minutes with general casual bashing. If you're in grass it's going to be less if you're doing speed runs it's going to be less if you're bashing with a bunch of friends and your truck's just sitting there half the time it's going to be more etc.
@@DoRC okey thx 20 mins is a combined use
same as a car with city and highway use
All metal Drivetrain meaning metal outer driveshafts? Traxxas is all metal up to the driveshafts. And those maxx duty shafts are arguably more durable than metal. Mine have taken 4s abuse and don’t show the same wear dogbones do.
Well it means metal everything. I do agree that the most modern classic driveshafts are very strong though some people prefer metal just because they want metal so That's why I mentioned it. I think plastic can be pretty amazing these days
@@DoRC I guess when I think of metal drivetrain I mainly think of gears. I remember ARRMA advertising “tough metal gears” on the 3s line only to find out they meant just the diff internals. Shattered the input gears very easily.
@@dylanwhite6539 Yeah they're always a little creative with their descriptions. To me all metal means everything from the motor to the wheels is metal. I give a pass for the spur gear because especially not that long ago most spur gears on smaller vehicles were plastic regardless of the rest of the drivetrain.
@@DoRC yea plastic spur gears were relatively normal until the 8s Xmaxx. Then metal spurs trickled down to everything over 3s
@@dylanwhite6539 pretty much. I think this gear would have been fine with the stock system which honestly has plenty of power for this car especially if you geared it up a little bit. The Cobra 10 on 4S was kind of unfair to it though I am very impressed with how the whole thing held up. There were some nasty hits that I fully expected to break something.
Grease in the diffs and a plastic spur gear??? I don’t understand.
Well for a small light 3S car like this a plastic spur gear really isn't that big of a deal. It would probably hold up just fine. The grease and the differentials? Yeah that's a head scratcher. I mean it's fine it's not like It doesn't work but it does kind of feel a little tone deaf to the current state of the hobby.
Not a chance this os better than either the traxxas or arrma.
Why not?
It’s just a rebadged JLB cheetah
I don't think so. They look nothing alike.
esc is just general look for cheap Chinese rc 😂
You might be right. I assumed it was hobbywing but maybe it's not.
I just wanna hawk tua on that thang. It's marvelous and i want one. Will order one but i think i will go with the truck version.
Yeah either way I don't think you'll be too disappointed. It's definitely not the most refined thing in the world as in not the best handling but its pretty tough dead simple to work on and I think represents decent value for money
@@DoRC spot on brother