Thanks for all your production work and all of the new information about the NEVS version. I have a working 900 Turbo manual transmission with 247,000 miles (purchased new) and a 2006 9 3 Aero Convertible and love them both! Luckily I have both a private Saab and "dealer " mechanics within driving distance. Both cars can always do what my driving style and transportation needs demands from them.
my father in-law came from Sweden in the 90s he was the head manager of the port of operations in New Jersey. I inherited his production prototype 9000 and I have the 09 93.
I think it will, the NEVS 9-3 is based on the Saab 9-3ePower from 2011, and this was the first Electrical Vehicle which was planned for the production in Trollhättan. So, I think the chances are great.
EuroNCAP requirements change all the time, so if you are basing a new car on an old platform it will be impossible to reach new safety requirements. remember that the SAAB 9-3 platform is of age. it doesn't mean it will not be unsafe but it will not reach 5 stars.
It depends how you are asking the question, areasevenpro. If you are asking if it will equal the safety of the old 9-3, it should as it is the old platform with an electric powertrain. However, it will not have most likely the latest safety technology (automatic braking, automatic braking on cruise control, lane deviation, etc). so it will not be able to get the highest rating. So yes, same safety standards but that is not necessarily best in class.
Long time Saab fan here, love my 9-3 Aero. It's hard not to look at the release pictures without wanting desperately to like it. To be honest, when I stand back and look at them without being swept up in the excitement (as I did at first) I don't think they look particularly nice. Ugly? No, but I'm not overly convinced. It's odd because they are obviously saab-based, but to me it doesn't look quite right. As for the interior, I really do think that is ugly I'm afraid. If you look at the pictures for more than a few seconds I found myself saying, 'hey that doesn't look great does it.'. But I'm sure it will be tweaked and Im happy to be persuaded and obviously, it's very subjective.
What do you think about the Gift from NEVS for the Saab Museum, the 9-3 Turbo with new Incas etc ?? People in Sweden called the car the last real Saab from Trollhättan..
Auto Autopsy id think so aswell, when I took a closer look at the pics the roofline and C pillar seemed to match up closely with other epsilon platform vehicles like my Malibu.
I am questioning some of the bulges and bumps in the exterior, are they there just to avoid GM complaining about the clean cut lines of the NG 9-5? Could do with more aero cleanup since it's all electric now. Curious to see how NEVS do tri-spoke wheels. Yes, it's the details that determine whether NEVS will sink or swim. Need to see what not-top-end trim levels look like, the ones people can afford to buy.
Nevs first cars built on the phoenix platform will be ready for production in 2020 according to Nevs President Mattias Bergman on swedish radio. It will be a bigger car, 7 seater. I agree with lots of comments being made here, like on the chinese design influence. But also lots of details i really like. Overall its not love at first sight. But then again..thats how i felt about the 9-3 many years ago back and now i really like it..
My brother loves his Tesla. I kind of like this new Nev. the range needs to come up a bit to really be something I would be interested in. doesn't get me totally hard, but definitely gives me a semi.
I heard that NEVS made a petrol version of the new 9-3 and they gifted it to the Saab museum. But anyways, I heard that they said that you won't be able to actually own the 9-3. They only are selling them to fleet companies and as a service (ride sharing). It's a pita that they won't actually sell the new electric 9-3 or the petrol version they made for the museum 😔
I think the new saab has too much of the chinese touch and there is no more swedish simplicity, and all those things make it look like a bit like a pokemon.
Regardless folks! Saab is on a level of their own! Right? Didn’t they introduce the first LED technology on the 9-3 back in 2008 before car manufacturers started to over exaggerate on almost all vehicles? And no other news sources can explain the miracles of drivers that survived accidents???
I am also a SAAB fans and I own a 2007 SAAB 9-0 Aero.... yours 2003 - Arc ! ! Man, the side mirror which you claimed you don't like it.... Look, Lexus already developed' a similar kind of side mirror which you can project an imaage that you can view on the wind-shield. This design / device is to lower the cD ( Co-efficiency of Drag ) of air current pass by the car body which is aero-dynamic.... So, don't comment something you just " don't like "... This is the latest technology ! !
Hey there, the crossover/suv remind s me of a Mitsubishi Outlander The sedan s rear taillight s /rearend looks like ur car lol. These cars r probably gonna be fairly pricy that they probably price themselves out of the market? Lol nothing is better then petro 😀
I'm not sure what to make of it. You can still see the 2003+ Saab 9-3 body on the side panels, the back-end looks a little weird because of the lights, and the front-end reminds me of the 2010 Kia Optima. All in all, "weird" is the best way I can describe it, although that's probably because I own a 2005 Saab 9-3, so this thing looks a bit like an Asian Abomination. Either way, the interior is nice, and hopefully it'll shape out to be a really good electric car; who knows, might even buy one one day. :P
so is that the new sabb's? they look alright I guess I haven't seen any on the road yet but it doesn't look bad dig that a car that drives it self I like it 😆😂I get to just lay back and talk on the phone and twist up pour a drink and just ride 😆😂
It looks like a cheap Chinese trinket GM might sell. 186 mile range? Probably half that in winter? No thanks. When the range improves to compete with existing gasoline engines, I might reconsider. Until then, I'm very happy searching for cheap gas in SAAB 9-3. Good video thanks.
I hink if you take a test-drive in one of those, you might get the general "Landwind" China idea... The general quality of Chinese cars is... oh... I guess you already know...
I think you had better not bet on it. probably it has a lot of look-a-like-semi-Swedish-badly-copied-Chinese crud... There might be an electric engine in it, but likely a starter motor from an old Chinese tractor. Look at your used-car reviews... see if there's anything remotely Chinese in it... Heheheh... I think you know.
I dont know how to feel about this. I love Saab and would love for it to stay alove but i hate these chinese electric cars. Nothing will be the same as an old Sonett or 900
Auto Autopsy In the real life to mantain profitable a premium car maker is necesary to produce 3,000,000 Cars per year. i think nevs only is using the image of SAAB technology for financial or for other purposes
It looks nice, but I don't think it's a Saab. If the people who designed the latest 9-5 (please give me one), it would've looked a lot better. For a sedan, it's way to high on it's wheels. It's great that they bring back Saab heritage, but it's too Chinese. I honestly want them to just update the latest 9-5 and produce that
That's your opinion, other's certainly enjoy it. I'll find vlaidilty in your opinion when you have something to back it :) Thanks for your input still, I appreciate it
Mate, I enjoyed the video as well and like to watch your channel. This is clearly no hate. But a little more effort into the lighting, maybe a proper set to shoot your videos would be a really great deal to the quality of your videos..
You probably don't have to invest too much, bust just get a warm light and a white wall. The warm light should shine on you from an angel and then you got a way more professional looking set. You could stand then when talking as well wich would make i even better.
I don't think you would buy this vehicle u love your Saab to much that car's your baby so stop looking at that car I don't think you would get rid of your Saab
This is delusional. Even if this is mainly a electrified 9-3 it is not a Saab. No real designer would destroy the clean lines of the back with unnecessary bulky asian type rear lights, and some generic "electrical car" type front and unnecessarily rob the car of its Saabness when they could just have built on that. Its so stupid and tasteless.
I know you didn't say it was a Saab, But it seems like they were trying to capture that magic and just failed. Why even call it a 93. unless they are trying to draw in the diehard Saab fan base. SHAME ! SHAME ON THEM! I CONDEMN THEIR BLASPHEME ! ;D
Mark Newman India pledged to only sell electric cars by 2025, even if they're late that's the goal, easy to believe some EU nations and some NA nations will say the same thing in the next several years
Yeah I'm not saying this is something that will happen in the next five years, but within the next few decades, I'm sure almost all cars will be electric. Just my take on the topic
***** i will admit that the instantaneous torque is quite fun, but however, it's still nothing to an enthusiast. No engine sound, no gears to shift, no turbo to tune, it's basically... nothing besides a gas pedal at that point.
Next time... Make more video with the car, and less with your face... Its possible to listen to what you say without to see your face. Why do we have to see...you?
It's surprisingly beautiful than I thought. Well done NEVS.
I like the looks as well :)
Thanks for all your production work and all of the new information about the NEVS version. I have a working 900 Turbo manual transmission with 247,000 miles (purchased new) and a 2006 9 3 Aero Convertible and love them both! Luckily I have both a private Saab and "dealer " mechanics within driving distance. Both cars can always do what my driving style and transportation needs demands from them.
Awesome! Two great cars for sure
my father in-law came from Sweden in the 90s he was the head manager of the port of operations in New Jersey. I inherited his production prototype 9000 and I have the 09 93.
Awesome!
Will these cars meet the same safety standards of past Saabs?
Great question. I hope that's a high priority for NEVS, although I'm not sure if they have the same safety standards Saab did
It would be embarrassing if these NEVS cars don't get a 5-star rating from Euro NCAP.
I think it will, the NEVS 9-3 is based on the Saab 9-3ePower from 2011, and this was the first Electrical Vehicle which was planned for the production in Trollhättan. So, I think the chances are great.
EuroNCAP requirements change all the time, so if you are basing a new car on an old platform it will be impossible to reach new safety requirements. remember that the SAAB 9-3 platform is of age. it doesn't mean it will not be unsafe but it will not reach 5 stars.
It depends how you are asking the question, areasevenpro. If you are asking if it will equal the safety of the old 9-3, it should as it is the old platform with an electric powertrain. However, it will not have most likely the latest safety technology (automatic braking, automatic braking on cruise control, lane deviation, etc). so it will not be able to get the highest rating. So yes, same safety standards but that is not necessarily best in class.
Long time Saab fan here, love my 9-3 Aero. It's hard not to look at the release pictures without wanting desperately to like it. To be honest, when I stand back and look at them without being swept up in the excitement (as I did at first) I don't think they look particularly nice. Ugly? No, but I'm not overly convinced. It's odd because they are obviously saab-based, but to me it doesn't look quite right. As for the interior, I really do think that is ugly I'm afraid. If you look at the pictures for more than a few seconds I found myself saying, 'hey that doesn't look great does it.'. But I'm sure it will be tweaked and Im happy to be persuaded and obviously, it's very subjective.
Yes, it's all subjective.
What do you think about the Gift from NEVS for the Saab Museum, the 9-3 Turbo with new Incas etc ?? People in Sweden called the car the last real Saab from Trollhättan..
It's okay imo. Not a fan of the looks really, but I like what it symbolizes
I wonder, is it known if it still sits on the Epsilon platform? if so i'd love a front end conversion off that thing
I think it does, or it's at least heavily based off of it
Auto Autopsy id think so aswell, when I took a closer look at the pics the roofline and C pillar seemed to match up closely with other epsilon platform vehicles like my Malibu.
@autoautopsy my brother in-law ordered the model 3 referring to your tesla mention. has range of 220 miles over nevs 186 range also it's 35k loaded
The model 3 starts at 35k, with options it'll cost a lot more. My guess is the 9-3 will cost a little less, maybe 30k-ish base price
I am questioning some of the bulges and bumps in the exterior, are they there just to avoid GM complaining about the clean cut lines of the NG 9-5? Could do with more aero cleanup since it's all electric now. Curious to see how NEVS do tri-spoke wheels.
Yes, it's the details that determine whether NEVS will sink or swim. Need to see what not-top-end trim levels look like, the ones people can afford to buy.
Tri-spoke wheels would be a great touch!
Wow, gorgeous interior X)
I know right!
I love that 9-3!
Me too!
Nevs first cars built on the phoenix platform will be ready for production in 2020 according to Nevs President Mattias Bergman on swedish radio. It will be a bigger car, 7 seater. I agree with lots of comments being made here, like on the chinese design influence. But also lots of details i really like. Overall its not love at first sight. But then again..thats how i felt about the 9-3 many years ago back and now i really like it..
Very true. These cars are designed to look good in the future, not now. You eventually learn to love it
I actually saw an interview, on their website i think. It was said that the design will change more than just a little bit.
Interesting.
Can't find it now though.
I miss the old Saab from 2011-14 :( t made me feel like home
You should buy another one ;)
Auto Autopsy no I mean I miss those model years because it looked cool.
They died in like 2012 they didn’t breathe until 2014.
My brother loves his Tesla. I kind of like this new Nev. the range needs to come up a bit to really be something I would be interested in. doesn't get me totally hard, but definitely gives me a semi.
I love Teslas as well, lol
A beautifully styled 9-3 and better looking than many executive cars in the UK. Hybrid cars are increasing the UK.
Same with America! It will be interesting to see where things go
I heard that NEVS made a petrol version of the new 9-3 and they gifted it to the Saab museum. But anyways, I heard that they said that you won't be able to actually own the 9-3. They only are selling them to fleet companies and as a service (ride sharing). It's a pita that they won't actually sell the new electric 9-3 or the petrol version they made for the museum 😔
Wonder if parts would at least be available though, i'd love to get myself that whole front clip and the interior
Yeah I saw, I liked it for the most part
I think the new saab has too much of the chinese touch and there is no more swedish simplicity, and all those things make it look like a bit like a pokemon.
Good point, it's not really the same.
Mx5Wagon They are designed for the chinese market. That's why they look a bit chinese.
Nevs is like that relative that shows up after a funeral.
lol oof
Regardless folks! Saab is on a level of their own! Right? Didn’t they introduce the first LED technology on the 9-3 back in 2008 before car manufacturers started to over exaggerate on almost all vehicles? And no other news sources can explain the miracles of drivers that survived accidents???
Quite cool how many little things they pioneered!
how much are they going for? a hundred thousand?
Lol probably not. My guess is 30-40k
I respect them about Saab
Me too!
Love your 93 sedan 😀
Thank you :)
Do a reaction to the video
"SAAB Festival 2017 - NEVS present to the SAAB Museum
" Awesome project by Nevs! :-)
I'll look into it :)
I am also a SAAB fans and I own a 2007 SAAB 9-0 Aero.... yours 2003 - Arc ! !
Man, the side mirror which you claimed you don't like it.... Look, Lexus already developed'
a similar kind of side mirror which you can project an imaage that you can view on the wind-shield. This design / device is to lower the cD ( Co-efficiency of Drag ) of air current pass by
the car body which is aero-dynamic.... So, don't comment something you just " don't like "... This is the latest technology ! !
Very interesting. If they can utilize the mirror technology, it'd be super cool
That is a beautiful car
i agree!
Night Panel?!!!
we can only hope
Thanks for the video. The orginal Saab 93 is nicer! :)
its not half bad haha
i have a 9 3 look similar in the back his right.
Awesome!
The front looks like a current Accord IMO
It does share some similarities in looks!
Hey there, the crossover/suv remind s me of a Mitsubishi Outlander
The sedan s rear taillight s /rearend looks like ur car lol. These cars r probably gonna be fairly pricy that they probably price themselves out of the market? Lol nothing is better then petro 😀
I think they'll start somewhere between 30-40k. Just my guess
In love with the interior design.
But,personal opinion, im really not down for that exterior. I think it's absolutely HIDEOUS!!!
Thanks for the opinion!
I like it a lot. Engine will be in the front (under the hood).
I guess they won't be putting the batteries underneath like tesla does then
I'm not sure what to make of it. You can still see the 2003+ Saab 9-3 body on the side panels, the back-end looks a little weird because of the lights, and the front-end reminds me of the 2010 Kia Optima. All in all, "weird" is the best way I can describe it, although that's probably because I own a 2005 Saab 9-3, so this thing looks a bit like an Asian Abomination. Either way, the interior is nice, and hopefully it'll shape out to be a really good electric car; who knows, might even buy one one day. :P
It's all opinion from the looks :) I definitely see here you're coming from
I need dis car
:)
so is that the new sabb's? they look alright I guess I haven't seen any on the road yet but it doesn't look bad dig that a car that drives it self I like it 😆😂I get to just lay back and talk on the phone and twist up pour a drink and just ride 😆😂
Yeah they aren't in production yet lol
Auto Autopsy I'll bet they are going to be expensive
It looks like a cheap Chinese trinket GM might sell. 186 mile range? Probably half that in winter? No thanks. When the range improves to compete with existing gasoline engines, I might reconsider. Until then, I'm very happy searching for cheap gas in SAAB 9-3. Good video thanks.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Give me the seats and instrument cluster for my 9-3 but those side skirts and headlights gotta go.
The headlights are alright, still not sure if I really like them. Taillights are a big improvement tho imo!
Not a Saab.
If only I had a few millions I would buy Saab in a heartbeat and hire the best engineers from all over the world
So would I! I wish I had the funds for that honestly
The Nevs 9-3 looks like a Neomorph from aliens, its ok but no where near as cool as a Xenomorph. If any of that made sense..
Not in the slightest
I wonder what the engine specs are like🤔😂😂
Well it doesn't technically have an entire, but electric batteries instead
Auto Autopsy well yea but anyway would be interested in acceleration values for example anyway
All the way from *Norway* not a huge diference but Not Sweden ;)
But no problem bro! 😏
Can't wait to put it on :)
So nice
:)
I hink if you take a test-drive in one of those, you might get the general "Landwind" China idea...
The general quality of Chinese cars is... oh... I guess you already know...
Yeah, not the best. This has a lot of swedish intervention still, so I think it'll be solid
I think you had better not bet on it. probably it has a lot of look-a-like-semi-Swedish-badly-copied-Chinese crud...
There might be an electric engine in it, but likely a starter motor from an old Chinese tractor.
Look at your used-car reviews... see if there's anything remotely Chinese in it... Heheheh... I think you know.
Not enough range
I dont know how to feel about this. I love Saab and would love for it to stay alove but i hate these chinese electric cars. Nothing will be the same as an old Sonett or 900
I agree, unfortunately times are changing :(
Not a fan of the front, i hope they bring back the SAAB vents and the interior, especially the infotainment part looks a little bit too chinese.
Good input, I certainly see where you're coming from!
ugly car, they Will show only for marketing purpose and never Will considering for industrial production.....
They are being made, about 150,000 like I said. I'm not sure how much changes between this and the production car
Auto Autopsy In the real life to mantain profitable a premium car maker is necesary to produce 3,000,000 Cars per year. i think nevs only is using the image of SAAB technology for financial or for other purposes
Good point, we will see how they sell!
Ugly, electric, and not a Saab.
It looks nice, but I don't think it's a Saab. If the people who designed the latest 9-5 (please give me one), it would've looked a lot better. For a sedan, it's way to high on it's wheels. It's great that they bring back Saab heritage, but it's too Chinese. I honestly want them to just update the latest 9-5 and produce that
The NG 9-5, if it was released sooner, could have saved Saab according to a lot of people. They are such beautiful cars!
I love the real saabs this looks nothing like it
It's sort of a modern take on it. Like I said in the video, you can see a lot of similar features between this and the last 9-3
You should definitlely step up your quality man! This video set up was straight up junky today.
That's your opinion, other's certainly enjoy it. I'll find vlaidilty in your opinion when you have something to back it :) Thanks for your input still, I appreciate it
Mate, I enjoyed the video as well and like to watch your channel. This is clearly no hate. But a little more effort into the lighting, maybe a proper set to shoot your videos would be a really great deal to the quality of your videos..
Good ideas. Do you have any specific suggestions to help with that?
You probably don't have to invest too much, bust just get a warm light and a white wall. The warm light should shine on you from an angel and then you got a way more professional looking set.
You could stand then when talking as well wich would make i even better.
I own a 2007 SAAB 9-3 Aero ( NOT 9-0.... typo ) !
Awesome! lol
looks like a kia
lol good point
oh I believe u
Maybe just the Asian design lol
If we're talking Tiger Nose Kia years, then that's a good thing right?
I don't think you would buy this vehicle u love your Saab to much that car's your baby so stop looking at that car I don't think you would get rid of your Saab
Probably not, especially since they aren't being sold in the states
Auto Autopsy 🤣😆if they were u wouldn't give up your Saab u done so much for the car well from what I've seen u wouldn't give up your Saab for that car
I gotta be honest, I prefer my 06, and my 9-5 however old is my 'house' - this is just too Asian, not for me.
Totally understandable!
This is delusional. Even if this is mainly a electrified 9-3 it is not a Saab. No real designer would destroy the clean lines of the back with unnecessary bulky asian type rear lights, and some generic "electrical car" type front and unnecessarily rob the car of its Saabness when they could just have built on that. Its so stupid and tasteless.
Well I never said it's a Saab, it's just the closest thing to a Saab that's being made today since it shares some similarities with it :)
They took a perfect design and "China-fied" it. I loved the clam shell front that was distinctly Saab.
I don't like the design. It got rid of everything cool about a Saab.
:(
@@AutoAutopsy Also, the NEVS 9-3 that was supposed to go into production looks more like a Geely Emgrand EV than a Saab 9-3.
Looks like shit , please do not call it a 93
I didn't, NEVS owns the rights to the naming, so they did
Looks ugly well at least the front. , will be produced it china complete crap. If i ever buy a EV it would probably be a tesla. RIP saab
I love Teslas, and totally get where you're coming from :)
Sorry, not a Saab. Looks like a middle 2000 boring bubble car.
Well I never said it was a Saab
I know you didn't say it was a Saab, But it seems like they were trying to capture that magic and just failed.
Why even call it a 93. unless they are trying to draw in the diehard Saab fan base.
SHAME ! SHAME ON THEM! I CONDEMN THEIR BLASPHEME ! ;D
HA Electric cars aren't going to take over, calm down there buddy.
Sadly, at their current rate of growth, it's inevitable :/
Mark Newman India pledged to only sell electric cars by 2025, even if they're late that's the goal, easy to believe some EU nations and some NA nations will say the same thing in the next several years
Yeah I'm not saying this is something that will happen in the next five years, but within the next few decades, I'm sure almost all cars will be electric. Just my take on the topic
Sadly? Drive one! They're fantastic.
***** i will admit that the instantaneous torque is quite fun, but however, it's still nothing to an enthusiast. No engine sound, no gears to shift, no turbo to tune, it's basically... nothing besides a gas pedal at that point.
Ugly name and fugly design!
All opinion based
Next time...
Make more video with the car, and less with your face...
Its possible to listen to what you say without to see your face.
Why do we have to see...you?
Seriously? This is a brand new car, so there is very limited pictures and video of it. I can only do so much