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  • @PerryCuda
    @PerryCuda 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Good advice. Some more advice from a current English teacher.
    1. Training centers - my first job. You typically teach 25 hours a week. No weekends. Monday and Tuesdays are off. This is disorienting. Centers often provide course material. However, you make your own material with 'English Corners' - a themed topic. A lot of times you're teaching adults (some are business leaders) AND small kids in the same room. That doesn't end well. ) Hours usually run from 1PM to 9 or 10PM. Again, disorienting. Salary is something like 17k-19 a month. Classes are 55 mins.
    2. Private school - currently teach at one. Work 20 academic hours a week, office hours 8 - 4:30pm, use their textbooks (not good), use my power points. Pay is excellent. 26k after taxes. Downside - student behavior. We don't give grades and homework, so they misbehave. Private schools also get a lot of 2nd and 3rd chance kids from other schools. I routinely have kids yell out "what the f**" in class or intentionally lose their textbook to get out of working. You need to know how to deal with this. Classes are 35 - 40 mins.
    3. Be efficient at power points. Don't dare show up in China if you don't know how to put together a 40m course in power point. We've fired two older foreign American teachers with a combined 40 years experience teaching who couldn't make a basic power point. The anxiety of technology and not being able adjust got to them.
    4. *Most important* - know your agent. Often times agents have an exclusive contract with the school, meaning your monthly salary doesn't reflect what the school is actually paying for you. We currently have foreign teachers making 15k while the agent pockets 8-10k per month. I make 25k doing the same exact work as the 15k teachers because I was hired directly by the school and did my homework on the agent scheme. All of our agent hires have had issues. Many of them are simply not good teachers and took the job out of desperation and ignorance (didn't do their homework). If you use an agent make sure it's a one time placement fee and not a monthly salary for them.
    5. A lot of men seek out university positions because even though the pay is a lot less, they can date/sleep with their students. Yes, eww, but it's just a fact and entirely acceptable or tolerated in China. I'm surprised this isn't discussed more.
    6. Understand that more pay means more responsibility, or even unforeseen issues. I know a guy who makes more than 30k but he's 20 mins from the nearest grocery store. And an hour from a major city. He also has to sit in a class from 8 to 5 every day.
    7. Office hours. If you live on campus you won't have office hours most likely, particularly at universities. Office hours are typically managed through a check-in app. It's unpleasant, to say the least.
    8. There's *a lot* of downtime, more so than any job I've ever had. Use your downtime to create value - take online courses, take Mandarin, go to the gym, write novels. I use my downtime to enroll in the CFA program and study Mandarin. That downtime is what will define the quality of your experience.
    9. Tutoring - there are always opportunities for tutoring. Wealthy families will pay you a LOT so if you want to supplement your income, go for it.
    10. If you want to save money avoid the big coastal cities like Shanghai. Also, the Shanghai experience is really China-lite. Try for some of the smaller cities.

    • @sucevicpredrag3915
      @sucevicpredrag3915 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much non natives usually make?

    • @PerryCuda
      @PerryCuda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theasianjaywalker4455 I'm head of the English dept and ppt in the 1990s? If you don't know how to work in multimedia you're probably not cut out for teaching in China.

    • @PerryCuda
      @PerryCuda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sucevicpredrag3915 Depends. If just English, 15k+. If a STEM, 25k+.

    • @PerryCuda
      @PerryCuda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theasianjaywalker4455 cool story, boomer.

    • @sucevicpredrag3915
      @sucevicpredrag3915 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PerryCuda well for my first year i will do english. Bit later i can transition to stem if i like it. I graduated wildlife management ( zoology biology

  • @Frank_E_Scialdone
    @Frank_E_Scialdone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have been teaching English in China for the last 16 years. Guangzhou, China. What they are saying is very true. But as far as salary is concerned, 30,000 is the extreme. Don't expect to make that when you come here to teach English. Ever since COVID-19 happened it was training centers have gone out of business. I can only speak for the city of Guangzhou, but I would assume that is the norm around the country. If you're lucky enough to find the training center, you could expect the salary between 15,000 RMB up to a little bit higher. I do know people who are making 30,000 a month. But those people are working 40 hours a week +.. And they are expected to also have office hours. For those wondering about the amount of money and what you can get for it… Just know that the average Chinese worker probably makes about 5000 to 6000 RMB per month. That would be somebody working at McDonald's working at an office. Chinese salaries are very low. There are other people making a lot of money but those people are you working their asses off. I don't wanna work that hard to be honest with you. I don't want office hours. I work at a training center four days a week, and I work at a kindergarten in the morning for only one hour. I also am a host of a trivia night. I make about 22,000 RMB every month. With that amount of money, I am able to pay my rent… 6000 RMB every month. I stashed away 10,000 RMB in cash for savings every month. And the rest I use for my daily life.... food. Entertainment. Taxi cabs, etc.. If you were going to work at a training center or work any private class you should be asking for a minimum of 250 RMB per hour. That is the minimum. You could even make 300 or 350 RMB if negotiated. Honestly… If you make between 16,000 to 20,000 R&B every month, you can live very comfortably and save some money

    • @j__.adam69
      @j__.adam69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you apply for the job directly to the school or through agents? Thanks

    • @TJ-cf7ro
      @TJ-cf7ro หลายเดือนก่อน

      actually at the big 5 international schools in GZ its the norm .. but there not wokring at one of those and probaly wouldnt have much of a a chance of getting a job there anywhere

  • @wiser.kinder.calmer.6530
    @wiser.kinder.calmer.6530 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Ive been in China for 5 years. I agree training centers are only a good option if you have no teaching experience. You'll most likely be working long hours and on weekends. Also agree with international schools - work you very hard. Now I work at a UK university in China, much better that a Chinese University (which was described in the video ) The salary at proper UK university the salary is good (around 20 - 30k a month) This has been the best for me but it is teaching EAP (English for academic purposes) not EFL (English as a Foreign Language). Quite different. If you can get a Trinity Certificate in Teaching English for Academic Purposes (TEAP) your opportunities will open up a lot.

    • @tisid4376
      @tisid4376 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, I'm trying to learn all this currently. Is there a difference between TEAP and TESOL? I am in US and don't know if maybe just goes by different accronyms. Thanks

    • @hanban7224
      @hanban7224 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve just learned about EAP - can you tell me how you got your job?

    • @wiser.kinder.calmer.6530
      @wiser.kinder.calmer.6530 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes EAP has the specific focus on academic English whereas tesol is broader I suppose.
      For my job, or similar jobs, try looking at either The university of Nottingham Ningbo China Center for English Language Education or Liverpool Suzhou university.
      The requirements are pretty high though and you'll need EAP teaching experience MA TESOL / DELTA or EAP qualifications

  • @Sherise-Nicola
    @Sherise-Nicola 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Very Informative!! Quick clarification on international schools: most schools have a fixed working schedule, does not require working on the weekends and gives you traditional holidays off( Summer, Winter, etc.)

  • @WeightLossJourney780
    @WeightLossJourney780 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My wife is Chinese, we currently live in the uk (I’m a UK native), however her family are keen for us to relocate, they miss seeing our children grow.
    She has asked me to look at teaching opportunities in China, I am not a teacher by trade, I’m an IT guy, so I started wondering if this life is right for me. This video was really informative, I don’t know if I’m any closer to saying ‘yeah, leats do it’ but I do feel like you offered some good insight.

  • @imdee9024
    @imdee9024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm a new subscriber - Fabulous questions you asked here, thank you. Would love to see a breakdown on cost of living between one of the big cities and apposed to smaller cities where the salaries are less. Thanks again

  • @SoroushTorkian
    @SoroushTorkian ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You don't need the PGCE but it makes you more competitive.

  • @MossNathanReuben
    @MossNathanReuben ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very valuable. Both of you should start uploading videos of classes

  • @pranalight76
    @pranalight76 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! Very informational about the different types of teaching opportunities and their salaries

  • @PlaySports_Unboxed
    @PlaySports_Unboxed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video & Information, thank you!

  • @themediterraneanguy
    @themediterraneanguy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video about teaching, so useful & informative. I'm a teacher myself and I appreciate it. THANKS

  • @LevelUpTrader1
    @LevelUpTrader1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kindly make more videos like this. Highly Appreciated ❤️

  • @RioR0bin
    @RioR0bin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm moving to China real soon and this video has helped me a lot to deal with anxiety haha, I will be working as an Spanish teacher in a University, so thanks for the video!

    • @user-zu4sf8on9e
      @user-zu4sf8on9e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which university? What's going on?

  • @MylesGmail
    @MylesGmail 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow thank u!

  • @zl6800
    @zl6800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the good work.

  • @tc2334
    @tc2334 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve been in China for seven years and I totally co-sign on this. This has been my experience as well.

    • @patrickcutsis9929
      @patrickcutsis9929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi. Would you mind recommending some good private schools I could apply directly to, please?

    • @sirainilawal
      @sirainilawal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patrickcutsis9929I second this request. Please help us. Thank you very much.

  • @keganbennett6582
    @keganbennett6582 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid

  • @studentofphilosophy9251
    @studentofphilosophy9251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Vid, David seems like a cool dude 😎

  • @kellandaniel5581
    @kellandaniel5581 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative video! I’m halfway through completing a bachelors in TESL and was planning on teaching at an international school when I come China. I’ll need to weight my options carefully now after learning some of the cons.

    • @WendyMeng
      @WendyMeng 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hi you we have an international school in Harbin the northeast China, new opening school this fall, would you consider it ?

    • @SG-of6nq
      @SG-of6nq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been in China for almost 8 years now and I have found that international schools (the ones that can only have students with foreign passports) are few and far between. Most schools that do not have international status will lie and twist the truth to convince teachers and parents that they are international when they are not. Ask WendyMeng for the name of the school and see if she even tells you. This distinction is important because true international schools usually only hire qualified teachers and are "more" likely to follow international standards. Many "international" schools that lie about their certification typically pay a decent amount but have low quality in teaching and low quality in staff and leadership. My most recent school was called Beijing World Youth Academy (Private school that also lied and said they were international - the government made them change their sign outside the school because of this), and while students there have good outcomes, many of those students pay top dollar for multiple private tutors to help them with their learning. This means that teachers who do not do well are usually left under the radar at the school.
      If you want to come to China for the purpose of making money, I suggest you work at a school like that. If you come to China because you want to better the lives of others and to give back to society, I suggest you find a school that respects their students and teachers, and aims for high standards (VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND!). Every school says they're good, but the standards here for teaching are extremely low. They're lower than every Western country, and even the Western standards are not very high in my opinion. This is coming from a doctoral student studying a doctorate of education in second language instruction, so I'm not just spouting unfounded opinions. these opinions are based in scientific research and my own experience as a scholar-practitioner in second language teaching.
      As an endnote, I will say that I have yet to meet a foreign teacher here who actually knows anything about linguistics and language teaching theory (this is necessary to teach English, even to young children) or even about the students' culture and language. Most foreign teachers I know do not speak Chinese, and the ones that do believe that using Chinese in English teaching is bad. It's sad that they clearly have no theoretical understanding of second language acquisition, and honestly they don't care because schools will keep telling them how great they are just to keep them.

    • @SG-of6nq
      @SG-of6nq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, based on your comment I'm guessing you're not a native speaker. China changed its policy on allowing foreigners in to teach English and decided to take the unfounded idea that only native speakers can teach English. The only other way I know of is getting an illegal visa to work or if you were here on a work visa teaching English before the policy changed and stayed.

  • @pauljh6478
    @pauljh6478 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advice on this video and in the comments 😊

  • @phlezktravels
    @phlezktravels 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The golden years of being a teacher in China are long gone. Glad I was there when it was amazing!

    • @sucevicpredrag3915
      @sucevicpredrag3915 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello. I am supposed to go to china next month middle october changchun city.
      Salary 10000 rmb 22 teaching hours per week. Housing covered. Utility not ( its like 50 $ month).
      What i want to know is it ok deal?
      Note i mostly go for experience and to live in china and it is my first contract ever.
      I go legally

    • @sirainilawal
      @sirainilawal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sucevicpredrag3915 Hello, I am guessing you are in a University. Did you eventually go? How is the experience like?

    • @sucevicpredrag3915
      @sucevicpredrag3915 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirainilawal i didnt go yet. I am waiting for my work permit. Mid january i get it

    • @regikeyz
      @regikeyz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sucevicpredrag3915 Hi did you go and how did you get on?

    • @sucevicpredrag3915
      @sucevicpredrag3915 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@regikeyz i go soon. End of april i will book a flight.
      There is an agency in my home country which operates with employers in china.

  • @anythingartificial
    @anythingartificial หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best video ever super helpful

  • @penhdog2207
    @penhdog2207 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see an update video on info on this conversation. Are salary expectations and requirements generally the same in 2024?

  • @olivervinnicombe7953
    @olivervinnicombe7953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesme video guys. Ive accepted a job in Beijing and the salary was pretty high. Staying that in my contract it says that 7000rmb of my salary is actually living allowance. Either way something that i adopted to get a feel for the schools i was interviewing for was to ask if they could arrange for me to have a chat with one of their current teachers. I've found that really helped me get an idea for where I was going. One thing im still not sire about is holidays for a kindergarten teacher. I think it might only be two weeks a year.

    • @sydneysid8162
      @sydneysid8162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey mate can i ask how did u apply for this Bejing job in first place??

    • @olivervinnicombe7953
      @olivervinnicombe7953 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sydneysid8162 I can put you in touch with a few agents if you like?

  • @scottgresham6759
    @scottgresham6759 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Working in a good private school can give you the best overall package, set of privileges, etc. I worked in public schools too, and enjoyed the freedom to deploy myself, my way. Training centres can develop you some good experience, including marketing your education, but often have a cold mechanical business feel to them Teaching english in China is actually a good starting place for a career in education, or even a career/life transition. Expect to have a very good degree, Masters and 3-5 years well integrated experience to get the 30k+RMB/month salary. Some people will make good connections, develop themselves well and land great salaries.

  • @pippajennings5856
    @pippajennings5856 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so helpful, thanks so much guys. Most of the adverts in the uk are for international or training schools. Can you offer any advice on finding a private school job? Is it best to turn up in china and find a job or find a job in the uk? Also on daves esl cafe today, thete are not many jobs offering 30k. Have saleries gone down?

  • @hey_bebop
    @hey_bebop ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, I had no idea salaries were that high for teachers in China

  • @Mike-mo1gq
    @Mike-mo1gq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi! Im thinking of moving to China to teach Spanish. I hope it works!!

  • @davidalexanderarnavat
    @davidalexanderarnavat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As someone who also worked in a training center and an international school, I'd like to point out two things that were incorrect. First, training centers do provide PTO by contract. However, if you don't negotiate for it, that's on you. Second, as per the notion that international school's don't give a lot of time off, that's utterly not true. They give months of time off (Ex. summer and winter break) which is paid (again, if you didn't negotiate for it, that's on you). Will you be working during that time preparing lessons for the next term? Sure, but how is that different from any school around the world?

    • @patrickcutsis9929
      @patrickcutsis9929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi David. Would you mind recommending some good schools I could apply directly to, please?

    • @davidalexanderarnavat
      @davidalexanderarnavat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@patrickcutsis9929Unfortunately, I've been so out of the loop with ESL jobs and schools (as well which ones have survived the educational changes and the pandemic) that I can't give you an honest nor informed answer. Go to forums, social media groups, and etc. for countries/cities you're interested in, and check review sites (Ex Glassdoor and/or YT reviews by former staff) to narrow down the search. I know it's not the answer you're looking for, though best of luck all the same.

    • @patrickcutsis9929
      @patrickcutsis9929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No worries, thanks pal. Appreciate your response.@@davidalexanderarnavat

  • @what_Love_Drew_forth
    @what_Love_Drew_forth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you provide a helpful list or resource to point us towards private school teaching in China.

  • @user-yh4fp7yp5e
    @user-yh4fp7yp5e ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello!Andre. Could you share some videos of your full teaching lesson in the future?I want to learn 地道的课堂英语。哈哈哈~
    Thanks a lot.

  • @martyzzee3487
    @martyzzee3487 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video as always Adre. Thanks to David for sharing some valuable insights.
    I would like to know,
    1) When you talk Base salary of 30k, does that include those qualified but with no working experience teaching, the first time teachers.
    2) Also, something I haven't come across is, if you're earning 30K before tax as an example, what do you actually take home after tax?
    3) Lastly, what are the options would you recommend for sending money back to your country? their pros and cons
    Thanks

    • @andre5095
      @andre5095  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi, thanks for your support.
      1) Yes, absolutely. Experience or no experience that should be the absolute minimum. Also make sure it's a 12 month contract. Some schools try and do you a dirty by giving you a 10-month contract so they don't need to pay you on the holidays.
      2) The amounts we talk about in this video are all after tax amounts. The school or the agent will make it clear if it's pretax or after tax salary.
      3) I've used Bank of China and Paypal, and honestly they charge about the same. Because if you do a wire transfer with a Chinese bank then they charge quite a hefty currency conversion fee so in the end you don't really save any money that way. Also, if you use a bank then you need to fill in some paperwork before you can send money back in order to prove you paid tax on that money. So I would just use Paypal to avoid all that.

  • @clivekingshott4323
    @clivekingshott4323 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been in China since 2015, in an international private school, weekends off, good salary, nothing quite like what beers mentioned here. But there are horror stories I can share. I’ve had some time in a training center, that’s a slog but good money. There are still many opportunities in China, if you get a chance to come here, grab it!

    • @patrickcutsis9929
      @patrickcutsis9929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Clive. Would you mind recommending some good private schools I could apply directly to, please?

  • @GmodForDays
    @GmodForDays 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Currently working as an English teacher at a private academy (kindergarten) in South Korea. Not the best experience given it’s a brand new school and very unorganized. After this contract, with 1 year experience teaching could I expect 30,000 in China? I’m native English from the US. It sounds like a much better deal than what I have now.

  • @toddhildebrand
    @toddhildebrand 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andre and David, very informative video and thanx! David u mentioned living tin a bubble if teach at a (pseudo) international school.... I know u said the salaries were very high, could u elaborate on what u meant by. "living in a bubble" please. I'm also assuming there are no taxes on your income yes? Also cost of living....very simple and clean, and cost of food, not western food. Any thoughts about Kunming as far as living/teaching. I know it's the most beautiful city in China and pays less than Beijing and Shanghai....but that's fine, I'm after quality of life...not freezing cold and clean air please! Thanx again, Todd

    • @shanewall9092
      @shanewall9092 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      People live in a bubble if they want to. I’ve worked in international schools in Hangzhou the last 8 years. I certainly don’t live in a ‘bubble’. I also would not recommend working in private Chinese schools AT ALL if you are serious about your career and aren’t simply here for ‘the experience’ of living in China. We most certainly are taxed though. It’s the Middle East where you won’t be taxed. Beijing does pay high, Shanghai not so high in most schools. I live in Hangzhou which is an hour from Shanghai and the salaries are much higher here. Shanghai doesn’t need to offer higher salaries because they can easily replace you the very next day.

  • @benderunit44
    @benderunit44 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is more informative than 10,000 youtube vlog on China

  • @MpumiNdhlovu
    @MpumiNdhlovu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for an informative video, recruiters aren’t offering 30k at the moment though, someone told me I am worth 10-13k

    • @jessehorstman
      @jessehorstman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think you should hold out for a job that will pay you properly. If they think you are only worth 13k, then they don't respect you or value you.

  • @jelenamilosevic9222
    @jelenamilosevic9222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi :) can you tell us what is the situation like for non-native teachers?

  • @learnandtravelannushka
    @learnandtravelannushka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely agree with what you have mentioned. I am going to a small city in Henan to work for the university as a Teacher of Russian and English as a foreign language but the salary will be 10K only

    • @sucevicpredrag3915
      @sucevicpredrag3915 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well in smaller cities are less expensive

    • @j__.adam69
      @j__.adam69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello. Did you apply to the university directly by yourself or through an agency ?

    • @annushkasinger
      @annushkasinger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Directly to the institute

  • @jinjurbreadman
    @jinjurbreadman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at 8:20 when you speak about salaries, are you talking about pre or post tax?

  • @Catalonia
    @Catalonia หลายเดือนก่อน

    In terms of landing jobs, i have a subject matter offer at a university in Shanghai, it's in a suburb, so cost of living is lower, but pay is average. Rent flight and healthcare are included. Does it make sense to take it even though pay is closer to 15000 rmb per month, and just start out there?

  • @evebrown7977
    @evebrown7977 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Public schools are missing!?

  • @davidfrank5227
    @davidfrank5227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 years here. Some valid points but also sounds like some poor choices on his part with who to work for. Every place I worked at gave us holidays with plenty of time to travel and do things. We got 4th of July, Christmas, NYE's, along with the Chinese Golden Week as well as 2 1/2 weeks in both summer and winter vacations +/- needing to teach summer/winter camps. The pay is good. The working is bearable and a lot better than what I'm currently seeing while looking for jobs in Japan. The most annoying part is working for schools who fill your time with "office" hours instead of just requiring you to show up 30 minutes before classes, prep, and then go home when you're done. I've seen and worked at schools who had all the teaching materials prepared but because they required office hours you pretty much sat around BS'ing for a few hours before classes during the workdays. Weekends were always busy so that was never anything to complain about and you got to end your work week at 5 PM on Sunday and didn't have to come back until early Wednesday. Plenty of time to go and do stuff if you wanted. Chinese employers are slick. One reason to keep you and a hundred to let you go. $$ is king. If you make them $$ they're happy, if you're a "yes man" they're happy, if you screw up one time it's goodbye. You also didn't mention the education reform of 2021. Private teaching schools/training centers in China virtually no longer exist. You either have public like kindergartens, middle schools, high schools, or universities. Or you have international schools Now very very rarely will you actually find a private school. This is because all private schools needed to declare as non-profit. They were no longer allowed to teach English with the intent on making $$. They could offer dance, music, art classes as their core and find a way to include English into those but it can't just be English.

    • @penname.
      @penname. ปีที่แล้ว

      100 to 1, is it really that cut throat there? I figure once hired, basically show up and try. You paint a different picture.

    • @patrickcutsis9929
      @patrickcutsis9929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Would you mind recommending some good schools I could apply directly to, please?

  • @user-xs6rb3me5t
    @user-xs6rb3me5t 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Очень интересное видео 😊

  • @ztreddedb2949
    @ztreddedb2949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what website can i find these private schools at?

  • @patrickcutsis9929
    @patrickcutsis9929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Andre. Would you mind recommending some good schools I could apply directly to, please?

  • @Coglitics
    @Coglitics 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have to speak mandarin just a little bit?

  • @madefresh4044
    @madefresh4044 ปีที่แล้ว

    coming to China this year in September ( Changzhou)

    • @j__.adam69
      @j__.adam69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I assume you’re there already;)

    • @madefresh4044
      @madefresh4044 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@j__.adam69 been enjoying Changzhou for 4 months now

  • @penname.
    @penname. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s all about supply and demand. Now that China is open, there might be more competition that may potentially drive the teacher wages lower.

  • @user-vp6fh8gx7z
    @user-vp6fh8gx7z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, I heard that foreign piano teachers make a lot of money in China.
    I believe that, for the development of China, professionals should work in fields related to their majors.

  • @stevetheteacher4947
    @stevetheteacher4947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the Dress Code for University teachers? I am guessing that long sleeve or short sleeve button ups with khaki pants are fine? Obviously shorts, hoodie sweatshirts, flip flop etc are probably not acceptable.

  • @Cheesecakejibs
    @Cheesecakejibs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would highly recommend that you take this with a pinch of salt. I am an IGCSE and A Level English teacher - their message about teaching English in international school is not accurate.
    The international schools often do have active links with UK schools - mine does, and we work with them from curriculum to delivery.
    This sounds to me like language ESL teachers with little experience of top flight international schools.

    • @Cheesecakejibs
      @Cheesecakejibs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also - this guys views of ‘garbage’ schools is also curious. International schools are garbage? But he recommends private local schools. Crazy nonsense.

    • @JalomMatia
      @JalomMatia หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cheesecakejibs yeah, just based on his experience.

  • @TonyMontana-pe6vf
    @TonyMontana-pe6vf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a really good video, very informative. But I have one question. I thought private schools and language centers are no longer allowed to operate in China. Because of the new law passed about 2 years ago. I thought the government said that educational services should not be a private business. Can someone help me clarify that?

    • @aisensif5731
      @aisensif5731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      对不符合新规则的培训中心进行了规范,不包括艺术类及体育类

    • @TonyMontana-pe6vf
      @TonyMontana-pe6vf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aisensif5731 i can read no chinese.

    • @user-ir9rd7sg3g
      @user-ir9rd7sg3g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i guess that means out-of-school classes are not allowed,which doesn't means private schools are banned

  • @chtibareda
    @chtibareda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Andrew, thank you for the nice informative content, I appreciate it. I wonder if you have any information on how or where I can apply for a Maths or science teaching position in a private school in china? Also, do you reckon if knowing some chinese language ( and mentioning it in the cv ) would it add any value salary wise ? As a non-native speaker, but someone who graduated with a Bsc and a Master in a european university ( the programs being taught in english), with such background, do I have the right to expect a high salary ? or would the fact that I am a non anative english speaker still mitigate it ? Thank you very much again.

    • @WendyMeng
      @WendyMeng 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hi I am a recruiter work for BFSU,it's a better choice for you become a subject teachers, a subject teachers can get work visa as long as your major and work experience is related to the subject you teach.

    • @chtibareda
      @chtibareda 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WendyMeng Hi Wendy, do you have any available maths teaching position? For this August/september ?

    • @WendyMeng
      @WendyMeng 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chtibareda yes our Harbin international school are hiring subject teachers for this September.

    • @chtibareda
      @chtibareda 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WendyMeng How can I can I contact you directly?

    • @WendyMeng
      @WendyMeng 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chtibareda you can find my contact from "For business inquiries".

  • @dahur
    @dahur ปีที่แล้ว

    The video's I enjoy most are the ones speaking Chinese with a native speaker.

  • @ReturnOfWilderness
    @ReturnOfWilderness 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    does he have a contact?

  • @ammarseadon6786
    @ammarseadon6786 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found this very informative, thank you. So I'm probably going to be teaching at a primary school in Zhongshan in September. I would like to know if there are language schools to study Chinese from zero and whether it is possible to study after working hours. Also, how common are (weightlifting) gyms in china?

    • @andre5095
      @andre5095  ปีที่แล้ว

      In your case it's best to get an online tutor. Many Chinese teachers specialize in teaching foreigners and it's not expensive at all, maybe 100RMB per hour. You can also download the super chinese app and hellotalk (two of my favourite apps when I started learning Chinese). Proper weightlifting gyms as in crossfit gyms etc? I think those are hard to find, I've seen some in Shanghai, but then again Shanghai has everything. Weightlifting is not really that popular in China, neither is going to the gym, it's definitely on the rise but what you will find is that most gyms in China might not be up to your standards.

    • @Danknight403
      @Danknight403 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@andre5095 Can non-natives speakers teach english in China?

    • @WendyMeng
      @WendyMeng 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Danknight403 for non natives the better choice is teaching some STEM subjects

  • @KonyaTribun
    @KonyaTribun ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I wanna ask how the weather conditions affect your daily life in China? Does it rain a lot or is it mostly cloudy? When I researched about the weather quality, I found out air pollution is an important problem. Cheers!

    • @luisanthonychau
      @luisanthonychau ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It really depends on where you are going. China is too big to generalize its weather conditions.

    • @KonyaTribun
      @KonyaTribun ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I'm asking this question about Chengdu city because I got job offer from there. Do you know what is the exact situation in this city? And which city do you live in right now?

    • @luisanthonychau
      @luisanthonychau ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ah, the home of pandas. It's cloudy and rainy like 80% of the time with average temperature of 14 to 23 degrees Celsius. The air quality ranks 297 out of 387 cities. The funniest thing is the rank 1 city is right next to Chengdu at the Panda Reserve, so the industries in the city are probably responsible for the poor air quality.
      The air quality in Chinese cities is generally worst than anywhere you know of if you came from a western country. But don't let it be a deal breaker. I live in Macau, a coastal city in the south. It has worst air quality than Los Angeles. My Australian manager thought she would die choking when she got off the plane. Somehow the city poses a 85+ years in terms of life expectancy. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger perhaps.

  • @cabitsuchild9700
    @cabitsuchild9700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What should I expect pay wise with no work experience?

    • @JalomMatia
      @JalomMatia หลายเดือนก่อน

      depends on many factors, your other qualifications, age, country, appearance, and where you will teach.

  • @jjh2920
    @jjh2920 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where would you look for one of these 30k jobs? I have one year of in classroom tefl experience and a CELTA. I'm considering a year in china to mse bank and get a PGCE. But I can't find these so called 30k jobs. 22k seems to be the norm in most places.

    • @jessehorstman
      @jessehorstman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perhaps they are low balling you and hoping that you don't realize youbare worth more now since half of the foreigners left a couple years ago.

    • @jjh2920
      @jjh2920 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jessehorstman i'm looking online. These 30k jobs don't really seem to exist. Have you found any?

    • @jessehorstman
      @jessehorstman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jjh2920 Of course they will advertise a low number. I have an interview tomorrow, and I told them in the first interview that I would like 26k after tax. That will be near 30k before tax and it will be my first teaching job. If they aren't willing to pay then I have a mind to keep looking for a better offer. If you look at the budget these schools are working with I think you will find that there isn't any reason for them not to compensate us for moving to a place where we have no roots. If all the applicants roll over and accept low offers then it will ruin the market for everyone.

    • @jjh2920
      @jjh2920 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jessehorstman where did you look for jobs?

    • @jessehorstman
      @jessehorstman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jjh2920 echinacities. Where have you been looking? I'm sure there are better places that I don't know about. In any case, advocate for yourself. Negotiate.

  • @lucidlivingJ
    @lucidlivingJ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need help. Why some schools offer me a stable salary.
    And other schools offer a salary before tax, and then, when my salary gets deducted for taxes, the deduction increases each month.
    So let's say my salary is 25k, then next month it is 24 then 23 and so on.... is it a scam? Should I accept the offers ? It seems fishy to me

    • @samu999
      @samu999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's fishy af, ask for a net salary guaranteed every month, no tax shit

  • @pdeneke
    @pdeneke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was offered 17k but after tax and rent I was only going to get 10k .

  • @BlakeHaskins-tv8fj
    @BlakeHaskins-tv8fj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You get 2 weeks off. That's a good time

  • @BenJones1127
    @BenJones1127 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With training centers dead and the borders open, 30K is a stretch unless you mean before tax

  • @humanspecies5137
    @humanspecies5137 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honest real question. As a foreigner with a desire to work in China, where and how can we apply for jobs? How can we increase the odds of finding a job that is legitimate? Massive thanks in advance.

    • @Hi-Nikola
      @Hi-Nikola 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It depends on what kind of work you want to do.

    • @Hi-Nikola
      @Hi-Nikola 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Be a teacher? Or other else?

    • @humanspecies5137
      @humanspecies5137 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Teaching. My apologies for the delayed response.

  • @trisoil
    @trisoil ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All teachers get the whole summer off and there is a winter break around Chinese new year.
    So it is not true that you work all year long. Teachers have more holidays than any other people.

    • @johannhartzenberg6277
      @johannhartzenberg6277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed, we only work 188 days a year and our holidays are fully paid. We also get 2000usd travel allowance per year.

  • @senzikal
    @senzikal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm curious since this is the first video of yours I've seen. Clearly you (used to) have an Australian accent, but why is it turning American? Your oral English is rhotic. It's the case for both you and the interviewee, more noticeable with you though.

  • @jinjurbreadman
    @jinjurbreadman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where do you find these jobs?

    • @abdelhakenglishfarm
      @abdelhakenglishfarm หลายเดือนก่อน

      On wechat groups

    • @jinjurbreadman
      @jinjurbreadman หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abdelhakenglishfarm would you mind sending me the group names?

  • @TeslaSoCal
    @TeslaSoCal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you also need to speak Chinese for these teaching English occupations?

    • @JalomMatia
      @JalomMatia หลายเดือนก่อน

      no

  • @miroslavkretija680
    @miroslavkretija680 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im already 1 year in China, and i still didnt find any english teaching jobs.....

    • @abdelhakenglishfarm
      @abdelhakenglishfarm หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are ur qualifications?

    • @JalomMatia
      @JalomMatia หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's because you are under-qualified.

  • @kimphilander4689
    @kimphilander4689 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, i'm a native speaker from South Africa with a BCom degree and currently doing a TEFL level 5 (168 hours).
    I have 2 questions:
    Are there any government/private institutions that offer a "Teach in China" program similar to Epik for Korea? Or do you have personal recommendations on where to apply? My fear is being scammed by a recruiter.
    Second, what sort of salary range do you think i can expect in Nanjing or Hangzhou regions?

  • @aisensif5731
    @aisensif5731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    相信对30k月收入的外籍教师,未来用人企业会对他们提出更高的要求,例如更高的学位证明或相关经验

    • @aisensif5731
      @aisensif5731 ปีที่แล้ว

      不过,中国值得大家来看看

  • @youtubetebie7799
    @youtubetebie7799 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    false and wrong info given here, search Sabrina in China, Aleese Lightyear, Because I'm Lizzy they are teaching in China right now with plentiful enjoyable holidays

    • @andre5095
      @andre5095  ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are they teaching? What info is false?

    • @youtubetebie7799
      @youtubetebie7799 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@andre5095 "work to death"

    • @andre5095
      @andre5095  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youtubetebie7799 你的话没有道理,你可以再看一遍视频。大伟说了国际学假期正常但是工作时间很长,而且周末得值班。在国际学校这个很正常。

    • @evebrown7977
      @evebrown7977 ปีที่แล้ว

      Training centers and international schools, they said!

    • @phlezktravels
      @phlezktravels 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andre5095么么哒加油

  • @Braveplantt
    @Braveplantt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yk what?
    nice one, you got a good chinese name to make you strong hehe
    btw, thanks for using traditional chinese XD

  • @iGeekozoid
    @iGeekozoid ปีที่แล้ว

    30k is quite a high salary to have as a base minimum based on what I am seeing.

    • @jmpompey1
      @jmpompey1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you teaching in China or looking at positions on Daves ESL?

    • @iGeekozoid
      @iGeekozoid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmpompey1 Closer to the later.

    • @jmpompey1
      @jmpompey1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iGeekozoid I am in GZ right now, i am not teaching myself but with a degree and TEFL and no teaching experience I could easily get 26k per month with a 4k per month accomodation allowance. The ads are posted by agents who want a cut your job is to reduce their cut to a minimum

    • @iGeekozoid
      @iGeekozoid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmpompey1 Oh yeah, 26k in Guangzhou looks easily doable. 30k in Chengdu though? Doesn't look easy without some sort of specialisation.

    • @andre5095
      @andre5095  ปีที่แล้ว

      Chengdu might be an outlier because it's quite popular among foreigners.

  • @johannhartzenberg6277
    @johannhartzenberg6277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude, love your video, but clearly, he does know what he is talking about when it comes to teaching at International schools. You need a teacher's licence to start off like the iPGCE he mentioned. We are only working only 188 days a year, and we get 2000usd travel allowance per year. And if you are a real teacher, teacher at a Chinese school will never help you going forward. International schools, the real once with foreign kids are the way to go, stay away from bilingual schools. Also, my salary goes up every year.

    • @johannhartzenberg6277
      @johannhartzenberg6277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry, I do not want to be negative but do not believe in working at a private school. If you are real teacher find a good International school. I am glad he mentioned it, I teach at an IB school, and we get a lot of personal development, we do not pay for housing, electricity, water, internet and transport.

    • @johannhartzenberg6277
      @johannhartzenberg6277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Falsify grades, the international school is a joke, common dude. 70% of our graduates this year got accepted into the top 50 Universities in the world.

    • @patrickcutsis9929
      @patrickcutsis9929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Johann. Would you mind recommending some good schools I could apply directly to, please?

  • @gman007
    @gman007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serious comment … if you’re not white what are your chances of getting a teaching job there?

    • @phlezktravels
      @phlezktravels 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if your qualifications are high, it can happen.

  • @scottpilgram696
    @scottpilgram696 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couldnt you have put that money in usd lol

  • @scottpilgram696
    @scottpilgram696 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya we wanna teach eanglish because nost of us dont want to be teachers at all, its just an way in to a country you have no skills for.

  • @Woodardray
    @Woodardray 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh forgot to mention if you’re white. Haha