The reason why you saw no FPS increase when you used FSR at 4K was because you likely had the resolution scaling at 100%. Using a resolution scaling of 100% will decrease your frames by about 6 or so maybe a little less because it's not decreasing the resolution, instead it's just attempting to enhance the image. You need to use FSR as normally intended and put it to something like 67% resolution which would be about "Quality" preset. You could do something like ultra quality and put it at 75% but keep in mind, the higher the resolution the less FPS gain you get and at 100%, like I said, you'll get an even sharper image at the cost of a few frames.
Ohhh, yeah I see! Thanks for the heads up, at the time I thought that slider was your typical render resolution slider that was separate from any sort of upscaling features. I appreciate that!
@@MrJays No problem. And yes, I would have thought that too but that slider definitely works in conjunction with FSR. It's pretty nice because with it, you have full flexibility of being able to use standard preset resolutions and anything inbetween. I wish more games would actually implement a sliding scale for FSR and DLSS like this.
disabling smt made no difference for me, but turning all the auto overclock (pbo) had the same fps whilst not crashing stuttering as much as i noticed for some reason 1 core would boost to 6Ghz when it shouldnt be possible without ln2 cooling and that was causing issues for me
Honestly the cpu couldn’t be the bottle neck with 5950x. I am getting similar results with the 5950x and 7900xt. I think this game should get serious overhaul so it does not use the cpu the way it does.
U keep telling FSR this FSR that.....dude 4090 top of the line gpu getting 80 fps at 1080p raster is good for u?? Cards like 4070 cant even keep stable 60 fps 1080p.
You can still use FSR on a top of the line GPU, extra performance is still appreciated, but also, I was more comparing the games performance to other games that have come out this year completely broken. And 80 FPS without frame generation IS pretty good; could be better though, I do agree
@@MrJays it’s not lol, right now cyberpunk phantom liberty runs about twice as good as cyberpunk while looking 10x better. I don’t know a single AAA game of 2023 that runs worse, especially with all these load’screens.
Looks like the 5950x is holding back the 4090. On average the dos isn’t changing much between the resolutions even with FSR2. Seems to be a bottleneck on the cpu. Makes sense due to the dense models and older engine of the game.
Yeah I think the game is extremely CPU limited. One of the newer CPUs may give a bit better performance, but overall, the game is just crazy CPU bound for sure
no it's not,you can see the gpu usage in 97%-98%,so no bottleneck, it's the game with native resolution that is really heavy, you can check hardware unboxed channel at the 4k ultra benchmarks,people saying that can they are getting above that are using downscaling technologies ,not running at native rendering resolution
@@canalperolasdanet2103 I do agree, but also, when outside of the city areas I get well over 100 FPS, and with the DLSS 3 mod that gives frame generation it doubles my FPS from ~50 to over 100 in the city. So there definitely is a bit of CPU limitation here it seems
@@MrJays when the gpu usage is close to 100% and fps is low it means that there is a gpu bottleneck,it would be a cpu bottleneck if the gpu usage is lower and fps is low
The game looks like it's from 2018 at best and with getting around 100 fps on 1440p is absolutely dogshit. I didn't buy a 7950x3d and a 4090 to run triple a games, that look this bad at under 144 fps. Like how can you even say, that the game runs well? Big L commentary. So just another triple a game, that has seen no optimization whatsoever.
I don't agree at all about the graphics. I think it's beautiful. And you want MORE than 100 FPS in 1440p? I mean, I can understand wanting more FPS because I also play at 144hz, but 100 FPS in 1440p would be completely acceptable to like, most people.. Plus, as I said in the video, the game runs better than most AAA games that have come out this year. Worst thing is that there's so DLSS 3 or Frame Generation. So yeah, I think it runs pretty good.
@@MrJays The game isn’t optimized at all and looks already dated. I never said that graphics are everything? Stay with the topic, pls. But when a game looks this old on release and runs this bad on 1440p on a 4090, there’s something way off.
@@MrJays runs worse than every game released this year except unoptimized ue5 titles like remnant 2 and immortals of aveum. I watch benchmarks thoroughly so I know. 80fps at 1080p on freakin a 4090 and it's not terrible ? I want to know what you are smoking dude.
I tried the game on my friends computer which is far better than mine and couldn't find a single area that looks better than RDR 2 and than I searched for videos about beauty of starfield in youtube but no it just feels empty. They used mist to hide their laziness.@@MrJays
I've been been getting less performance than others too. I got a 7800x3d and a 4090 and only get 45 or so fps in new Atlantis outside area at 4k max no drs no fsr......I don't understand what's happening...... any ideas for me anyone?
New Atlantis is crazy CPU limited, sadly. So it brings most PCs down to about 45-60 fps in that area. But try downloading one of the DLSS mods that I showcase in my newest video and see if that helps!
i have the same pc with puredark mod and frame generatore i have costant 4k 110-120fps in every situation with all ultra settings and 80gb hdtp 4k textures from nexus mods
It isn't meaningless at all. It shows the top-end performance, and can be extrapolated to help others get an estimate of what theirs would perform like. And also for the people who DO have the top-end hardware, it helps them as well.
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The reason why you saw no FPS increase when you used FSR at 4K was because you likely had the resolution scaling at 100%. Using a resolution scaling of 100% will decrease your frames by about 6 or so maybe a little less because it's not decreasing the resolution, instead it's just attempting to enhance the image. You need to use FSR as normally intended and put it to something like 67% resolution which would be about "Quality" preset. You could do something like ultra quality and put it at 75% but keep in mind, the higher the resolution the less FPS gain you get and at 100%, like I said, you'll get an even sharper image at the cost of a few frames.
Ohhh, yeah I see! Thanks for the heads up, at the time I thought that slider was your typical render resolution slider that was separate from any sort of upscaling features. I appreciate that!
@@MrJays No problem. And yes, I would have thought that too but that slider definitely works in conjunction with FSR. It's pretty nice because with it, you have full flexibility of being able to use standard preset resolutions and anything inbetween. I wish more games would actually implement a sliding scale for FSR and DLSS like this.
I have a 3090FE and 5950X @ 1440p, watching to try guess what I will get. I will use one of the DLSS mod most likely.
I actually have a video on that out soon! Working on it now!
Did you try disabling SMT?
You and a couple others have said this... I could do a new video on it with SMT disabled... Hmmm
disabling smt made no difference for me, but turning all the auto overclock (pbo) had the same fps whilst not crashing stuttering as much as i noticed for some reason 1 core would boost to 6Ghz when it shouldnt be possible without ln2 cooling and that was causing issues for me
You are getting worse performance than me with the same CPU and GPU, and mine is worse than someone else's. Something is seriously up with this.
Yeah it's definitely not quite right. Even though it's smooth, the FPS seems off
Honestly the cpu couldn’t be the bottle neck with 5950x.
I am getting similar results with the 5950x and 7900xt. I think this game should get serious overhaul so it does not use the cpu the way it does.
I definitely agree, it needs some optimization work!
It's optimized like absolute shit let's not beat around the bush here
U keep telling FSR this FSR that.....dude 4090 top of the line gpu getting 80 fps at 1080p raster is good for u?? Cards like 4070 cant even keep stable 60 fps 1080p.
You can still use FSR on a top of the line GPU, extra performance is still appreciated, but also, I was more comparing the games performance to other games that have come out this year completely broken. And 80 FPS without frame generation IS pretty good; could be better though, I do agree
@@MrJays it’s not tho lol. Starfield in 1080p low runs worse than cyberpunk in 1440p ultra.
Compared to other AAA games that have launched this year, yes, 80 FPS is good.
@@MrJays it’s not lol, right now cyberpunk phantom liberty runs about twice as good as cyberpunk while looking 10x better. I don’t know a single AAA game of 2023 that runs worse, especially with all these load’screens.
Looks like the 5950x is holding back the 4090. On average the dos isn’t changing much between the resolutions even with FSR2. Seems to be a bottleneck on the cpu. Makes sense due to the dense models and older engine of the game.
Yeah I think the game is extremely CPU limited. One of the newer CPUs may give a bit better performance, but overall, the game is just crazy CPU bound for sure
yeah on my 4090 i get 90's-100's but thats on a new gen amd. I'll upload a benchmark soon. Just a bit tied up
no it's not,you can see the gpu usage in 97%-98%,so no bottleneck, it's the game with native resolution that is really heavy, you can check hardware unboxed channel at the 4k ultra benchmarks,people saying that can they are getting above that are using downscaling technologies ,not running at native rendering resolution
@@canalperolasdanet2103 I do agree, but also, when outside of the city areas I get well over 100 FPS, and with the DLSS 3 mod that gives frame generation it doubles my FPS from ~50 to over 100 in the city. So there definitely is a bit of CPU limitation here it seems
@@MrJays when the gpu usage is close to 100% and fps is low it means that there is a gpu bottleneck,it would be a cpu bottleneck if the gpu usage is lower and fps is low
The game looks like it's from 2018 at best and with getting around 100 fps on 1440p is absolutely dogshit.
I didn't buy a 7950x3d and a 4090 to run triple a games, that look this bad at under 144 fps.
Like how can you even say, that the game runs well? Big L commentary.
So just another triple a game, that has seen no optimization whatsoever.
I don't agree at all about the graphics. I think it's beautiful. And you want MORE than 100 FPS in 1440p? I mean, I can understand wanting more FPS because I also play at 144hz, but 100 FPS in 1440p would be completely acceptable to like, most people.. Plus, as I said in the video, the game runs better than most AAA games that have come out this year. Worst thing is that there's so DLSS 3 or Frame Generation. So yeah, I think it runs pretty good.
@@MrJays The game isn’t optimized at all and looks already dated.
I never said that graphics are everything? Stay with the topic, pls. But when a game looks this old on release and runs this bad on 1440p on a 4090, there’s something way off.
Get your eyes checked.
@@MrJays runs worse than every game released this year except unoptimized ue5 titles like remnant 2 and immortals of aveum. I watch benchmarks thoroughly so I know. 80fps at 1080p on freakin a 4090 and it's not terrible ? I want to know what you are smoking dude.
@@IDontKnowMuchAtAll I guess your username closed this argument, before it even began.
Damn, this is way better looking than I expected after looking at Fallout 4 or Fallout 76!! Great little analysis, I can't wait to pick this game up!
I think theres a black level crush and its a nogo, that brightnesd contrast sliders and HDR are not there to adjust
The brightness seems fine for me, but I do agree some kind of brightness, gamma, or HDR features would be great to see
They just didn't optimize the game. Visuals are not as good as rdr 2.
I think this game has elements that are better looking than RDR2, and some that are equal. But I do agree that the optimization needs work.
I tried the game on my friends computer which is far better than mine and couldn't find a single area that looks better than RDR 2 and than I searched for videos about beauty of starfield in youtube but no it just feels empty. They used mist to hide their laziness.@@MrJays
Exactly, RDR2 and Days Gone look better and run very efficiently
fsr only works on amd gpu isnt it?
Nah, FSR doesn't care what GPU you have, it's non-proprietary
I've been been getting less performance than others too. I got a 7800x3d and a 4090 and only get 45 or so fps in new Atlantis outside area at 4k max no drs no fsr......I don't understand what's happening...... any ideas for me anyone?
New Atlantis is crazy CPU limited, sadly. So it brings most PCs down to about 45-60 fps in that area. But try downloading one of the DLSS mods that I showcase in my newest video and see if that helps!
It won't cause resolution decreasing internally won't help at all with your CPU bottleneck, they just need to fix their busted fucking game!@@MrJays
i have the same pc with puredark mod and frame generatore i have costant 4k 110-120fps in every situation with all ultra settings and 80gb hdtp 4k textures from nexus mods
Heck yeah! Frame generation mod is a must for this game!
Im not Trying without Fsr and I have 9 5900x and 6900XT get some 70-80 Fps on max wqhd Settings
Hopefully soon they bring FSR 3 support and we can all benefit from the fluid motion frames with it!
5950x + 4090, DISABLE SMT for HUGE fps improvements !!!
You're not the first person to say this, I may have to give it a shot in a new video!
So poor result from 4090
Interesting how the game runs on a top hardware. But most gamers probably play on good midrange systems. This test is so meaningless.
It isn't meaningless at all. It shows the top-end performance, and can be extrapolated to help others get an estimate of what theirs would perform like. And also for the people who DO have the top-end hardware, it helps them as well.