Is Apple Pie Actually American?
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- In the video today, we're looking at whether or not Apple Pie is actually an American thing, and how the expression "American as Apple Pie" came to be.
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Another Bonus Fact:
In the 1972, CBC Radio host Peter Gzowski held a listener contest to finish the phrase "As Canadian As..."
The winner, a 17 year old student named Heather Scott, finished the phrase with "As Canadian As Possible Under The Circumstances".
Kind of says it all...
You forgot to mention that they tried translating "got milk?" for the Mexican market and failed big time because the translation read to Mexicans as "Are you lactating?".
I laugh about these 'lost in translation' slogans because you would think they would either consult a focus group or linguist for the language in question before launching them.
Um no, should I be!?!?
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James K forreal i love these too ! my favorite was Brazil being the only country that disney had to change the name of the movie Coco for bc cocô means poop in portuguese bahahahah
That's one way to embarazada yourself.
From Apple pie to poo poo training almost with no transition, and from there to got milk.... Oh Simon.
Simon doesn't do transitional material.
It would make sense. You'd want to poop after eating pie and then drink milk to poop again. It's a never-ending cycle.
Alex Mercer lmaoooo😭😭😭
"Is Apple Pie Actually American?" "No, not really. Well, that was over quickly, might as well shove in a bunch of unrelated bonus facts" :p
Apple pie is considered an American staple...Or is it?
USA: "We invented apple pie."
Bronze Age Europe: "I don't remember seeing you on that day."
Proliferated it where? In America? Sure ok.
Sounds like it was pretty common elsewhere before.
Well, that's just your dementia kicking in. 'Merica!
I’ve literally never heard anyone say that Americans invented apple pie. The expression comes from it’s popularity in America. It isn’t rocket science.
@ALSO-RAN ! Apple pie has always been the go to after a Sunday roast in the UK. My mum, gran and great gran all had this tradition as did most of the country.
We didn't invent it but we figured out a way to sell two of 'em for a buck forty-nine and get them served in less time than it takes a basketball team to put up a shot.
I came across a Johnny Appleseed tree once in Ohio. The apples were small and bitter. The problem with apples is that they do not breed true. That is to say, you can plant seeds from a tree you like, and the characteristics of the resulting tree are unpredictable. Growers use grafting.
I'm all for grafting. Oh,apple trees ? Oops,wrong forum. Thought it was the name of a strain.
You may wanna give the script write for the Johnny Appleseed video credit for that. Considering I'm 99% sure that Simon read that from the script in the Johnny Appleseed video.
American as apple pie is a great phrase. It recognize that someone doesn't need to come from America to be distinctly American.
Based on the false premise that apple pie is American, plus why would I want to be American? I am happy with my even split of British and Australian. From a culinary standpoint
I prefer apricots in my pie. Or cherries, and neither of those types are American either.
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"As American as apple pie" i.e. of European descent.
Yep, can't separate America from her euro-anglo roots. That is why she is fading today.
@Topgun God Something about this line sounds... A little racist.
@@DMWayne-ke7fl Throughout history all great empires fall . Look at England , just of husk of its former glory .
@Topgun God no pretty much everything here in the US is made in China, Mexico, Bangladesh, etc.
@Topgun God I hear that racism is a public health crisis, thank you for spreading awareness.
3:09 Perhaps the expression should be, "as British as America and apple pie".
except that most 'american' apple pies have a lattice top, and so are more dutch...
@@SevCaswell that's true, but I still see the apple itself British as it originated from there first.
So In Dutch there is a saying that goes: "having an apple for the thirst."
Which means as much as having a nest egg.
"save an apple for the thirst"
Just saying.
Yes I'm dutch.
@@boterlettersukkel I'm Belgian and you're probably right but I've heard it both ways! Groetjes uit het zuiden
I really love your windmill cookies .........just saying .
@@boterlettersukkel that sounds so strange to my yankie brain/ears.
so it came from all over europe and found a home in the states where it's european ancestry was forgotten and outright denied.... yup that sounds pretty american to me.
Yeah. I recently had a guy claim that pizza was an american dish invented in New York...
There's really some people out there who apparently won't recognize that just because something is really popular and maybe has developed a new style there doesn't mean it got invented there.
Not all Americans are that foolish, I love my Scot-Irish, and Mediterranean heritage.
Aside from people calling the act of enjoying apple pie "american" a joke, I have never in my life actually heard someone defend the idea that we INVENTED apple pie... kinda like slavery. We just borrowed it from europe
@@shanecarubbi7864 No, not all, but for every american that is proud of their european roots there's 20 who will say "My ancestors came over on the mayflower" and that's as far back as they know.
Then there's those like myself who really don't care one way or the other. Not out of any shame but me personally I just don't see how it pertains to my own life. I am me. My own personal past is all I need to define who I am.
And note: I am not saying anyone is wrong or foolish or bad for loving their ancestry, heritage or culture. You do you. I'm just saying that, like pineapple on pizza, that kind of thing isn't for me.
I completely forgot this video was about apple pie.
Why am I not surprised at all by this? 😂
Actually, mom used to make Crab Apple preserves and jelly. They taste a lot like plumbs when made in to jelly and preserves.
Preserved and candied crab apples are great. I haven't had any in a long time, and I still remember the taste.
They are delicious!
What exactly does a plumb taste like. We had these weird things called plums where I grew up.
I live in an area where John Chapman planted. He's quite the local legend. I can add that in the Colonial and Federalist periods in most places to incorporate as a village there were several requirements. One of those was to have a minimum number of acres dedicated to Apples orchards. For hard cider sure but more importantly for the production of vinegar. Vinegar was indispensable for the preservation of a broad range of food goods as well as for medicinal purposes of disinfecting things.
DON MCLEAN: So bye, bye Ms. American Pie...
ME: Never heard of her.
I used to sleep with her.
Im pretty sure her ex was in a movie
Trivia- the song American Pie by Don McLean is about the paradigm shift in rock n roll during the 60s, starting with the death of Buddy Holly in February 1959. Holly died in a plane crash, on a plane named 'Miss American Pie'
As an European that had apple pie in my childhood... this is a weird saying...
Tiberiu Nicolae we called it bro. No take backs.
@@LloydWaldo The Dutch apple pie existed first so shush it, it's -As Dutch as apple pie' now
@@beu9245 Nope, apple pies were recorded in England long before the Netherlands even existed as a nation.
American also eat Dutch apple pie and Dutch Chocolate Cake.
And we call Australian Shepherds Australian even though they were made in America.
Who cares.
I've eaten crab apple pie also depends on the Crabapple you have I've had pretty good ones
No you definitely haven't.
Whichever variety of 'wild' apple you had was most definitely not crab apple.
It's not a sour fruit but a bitter fruit.
Imagine biting an apple with concentrated vomit inside.
That's a crab apple. 👍
@@taylor2m4rc maybe any Crabapple you've had it but none I've ever had either that or you have a low tendency to throw up with good flavor
@@taylor2m4rc I bet you think Crabapple Taste of crab they do not
Wait until Americans find out where banoffee pie originated.
We are familiar with "an apple a day keeps the doctor away." Earlier, the expression was: "An apple before you go to bed, the doctor will beg for his bread."
When I was a young kid I lived in a town called Wenatchee in Washington state. It's know as the apple growing capital of the world. There were orchards of all sorts of apples and other stone fruits for miles and miles, also more potato's come from the East side of Washington than in all of Idaho.
I remember that from junior high, the orchards & picking potatoes from the ground. Learned that golden delicious were the best apples ever. Nice to meet a fellow Washingtonian.
Wow Simon.....from apples to "got milk"? This one really took a left turn. I liked it anyhow.
Simon, now we need to hear the episode on " How some cultures have their children potty trained by the time they're 9-11 mo. Old." Parents everywhere will thank you. Or at least I think they will. Lol and they're projecting a baby boom in just a few months. 2020 is the year that just keeps on giving. Lol
There's a thing called EC, short for elimination communication, that is essentially potty training but can be done with newborns. Basically, it involves reading signs the baby is about to go and then taking them to the bathroom and holding them over the toilet. Eventually the baby learns to hold it until they are over the toilet.
@@falconerd343 ..... Wow. Thank you. Good to know! It's certainly a novel enough concept. Unfortunately it also show just evil large companies can be manipulating society as they've certainly done a good job at convincing people that 3 is the standard age when it used to be half that before they came along.
@@falconerd343 this is completely false. Babies do not have the neurological development internally to do this before 18 months. The parent is trained not the baby. Quit spreading bs. Signed a pediatric nurse. Citations?
My mom potty trained me by about 11 months. I used to think that was the norm too until I was about a teenager.
I have a question, how did the practice of giving your teacher and apple come to be a tradition?
Is it a tradition? My wife is a teacher and as far as I'm aware she doesn't get loads of free apples...
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Wrong channel
Apple a day keeps doctor away especially when you throw them at there heads
their heads
@@foggyfarm926 Yeah, but their heads have to be there in order to hit them (there). ;) Sorry, couldn't resist.
@@CologneCarter it would have been funny to me if my brain didn't stumble over that. Normally, I'm not a grammar Nazi.
Being ultradeath and 6 ft under ground may achieve the same
An apple a day keeps everyone away if your aim is good enough
Young man, I'm waiting patiently for you to submit your entry in our pie-baking contest!
Let us know when it's ready to serve.....
I saw a version of "Quick Henry, the Flit!" in a political cartoon that featured Jerry Brown as a Mosquito-like pest in the 1960's.
Well that didn't work well did it?
What you failed to find in your research was the add that ran during the late fifties with the jingle, "America loves: baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet." It ran during the Dinah Shore show and was seen and remembered by millions. I don't know how many cars it sold, but everyone that heard it remembered the little rhyme. Her other famous jingle was Dinah singing, "See the USA in your Chevrolet."
@ArmchairWarrior Her main sponsor was General Motors, Chevrolet division. The show would open with the Chevrolet logo on the screen and the announcer would announce, "Chevrolet presents The Dinah Shore Show." Then we would hear her belt out "See the USA in a Chevrolet."
It's as American as dutch apple pie, french fries and danish pastry.
And as German as German Chocolate Cake...
Especially if you live in Pennsylvania.
I want scotch. American scotch. From Scotland! - Barney Stinson
This is why TH-cam needs a laughing vote... 😆
Lol spoiler alert
Like nearly everything else American, it's imported one way or another.
So where were Navajo Tacos imported from?
Yes, so the saying actually works, however ironically.
@@hydrolito I said "nearly everything", not everything.
@@hydrolito Even in that context the statement kind of holds true as "american" in this context is a national indicator rather than a geographical one, and it's generally referring to the United States as a nation founded by the descendents of mostly central and northern european colonists. Whether you are going with a hispanic or native american origin, the Taco has still been imported from Mexico.
In life who does it first is of little consequence. It is who does it best that ultimately counts.
Many apple varieties were developed in the US. Cartland, Empire, and MacIntoshes as well as many more, were bred in NY state. The heirloom apple called the twenty-ounce apple grew on the trees in our neighborhood, which had been an apple orchard. They’re very hard to find now, but they make the best “dutch apple pie” which in NY state means it’s got a crumb crust.
Simon needs to do an all food history channel (I know, I know, not another channel)
🎶"Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet"🎵
Can't help it. Ran through my mind the whole video.
Me too! And I'm not a Chevy fan...
Both Apples and pies existed in Eurasia for centuries before they existed in the Americas. Did anyone actually think apple pie was INVENTED in America?
Not the intelligent people amongst us, we are interested in the origin story of the phrase.
I don't think so. Ok maybe small children and imbeciles believe it was invented in America. I would say about 85% or more of the food here in America is from elsewhere. Maybe altered a bit for the American taste buds but from elsewhere.
apple pie? NEIN!!!! nein ! nein! ITS CALLED APFELSTRUDEL !!! 🧐
That's not a pie, totally different dough and technique. We had apple pie here in Hungary and in the Austro-Hungarian empire, as well as the different strudels.
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Had to pour myself a glass of milk by the end. Proof ads work. Lol!
I have been watching so much business blaze, I expected your time shot at the end of that Michael Bay joke.
Wait but the beginning about apples isn't quite accurate . You see there's no way to choose an apple. Unlike other plants and animals or humans that send a single copy of our dna. Apple trees send the lot and one is picked at random. In short they just kept planting crab apples until one they liked popped up. Ie if you plant any variety of apple you will never get another tree the same. You need to clone the tree you want.
Would love to see a video on the "Aussie" Meat Pie, and maybe also Lamingtons (NZ desert 'borrowed' by Australia) And perhaps Anzac Biscuits.
I am from central Massachusetts all I can tell you is the #1 Apple consumed there is the Macintosh. Before I moved away from Massachusetts every fall we would head to the Brookfield Apple Orchards to pick apples and to stand in a rather long line to get fresh baked Apple Dumplings. Oh how I miss those Apple Dumplings. Now I live in GA the Peach State but I have yet to see a Peach Tree here yet back in Massachusetts I use to see Peach Trees but not in the Peach State.
peach trees can grow in MA? that surprises me. every time they get a cold snap, the peach growers put out smudge pots
That was one of my favorite commercials as a kid.
That potty training bit is really interesting
I told my wife we can do it in less than a year. It will only be our first child. How hard can it be?
Can we get a video just on the potty training part?
@@paulname5483 It's not that hard to potty train kids. 3 years old is unacceptable I think. Both my kids were potty trained well before 2. Use positive reinforcement. Spend time with them. Avoid the TV being the baby-sitter. They will let you know when they need to go. They will walk sooner. They will talk sooner. Attention is the key really. Good Luck 👍✌
You have to use cloth. With diapers these days, they don't even know they're wet. Cloth has come a long way, even since I used it on mine. They're formed like a diaper with different sizes, and I know here in Indiana, there's a group that gives them away. I had the old, rectangle type. After they were done, I sewed it into a rather odd shaped blanket. It's still the favorite, softest blanket in the house, but it's definitely showing its age.
Anyway...A lot of people say to wait until they're ready. HARD NO! They don't know they're ready. When they're little, all they do is try to please mommies and/or daddies. By the time they're 2, they're soooooo independent. They just want to do fun things, and everything is fun. It's funny to NOT do what mommies/daddies want. Makes mommies/daddies frustrated and that's funny. They don't care if grownups say not to, they've got the whole world. Twos are nothing compared to threes. Threes are more. I don't know how else to describe it.
2 of my sister's kids weren't trained til they were 4, and her third was almost 5. Unless there's an actual bedtime medical problem, no child that old should be in diapers.
They're not difficult. They're not gross. Projectile vomiting, now that's gross.
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A suggestion for a video: What is the history of the church being exempt from taxes, and how much money would the US get if they suddenly forced religious organizations to pay taxes?
You materialistic people make me laugh...there is more to this world than money... spirituality is one of them...
That's rooted in the Dark Ages, like Christianity itself.
@Shaun Saju I’m not being materialistic, I’m asking a question. Never did I suggest that this should happen.
Shaun Saju Lol if there’s more to this world than money then surely churches should have no problem paying taxes? Unless they’re also just “‘materialistic people” 🤔
They need to be exempt from taxes, it's essential for money laundering.
I find it funny this came out the same day Answers With Joe released a video about Johnny Appleseed
Crab apple jelly and apple cider are two things I can think of that crab apples are used for . Smack talking crab apples is so unseemly and should be considered beneath this channel .
In terms of tshirt colors who are Heather (grey) and Kelly (green)?
Meanwhile, us in Britain got the "Brilliant!!!" fella from The Fast Show, coining the phrase "In't Milk Brilliant?"... :P
I loved Crabapples when I was a kid, I lived right opposite the Festival Gardens in Stoke-on-Trent (which is/was in Etruria, not Stoke, Stoke is several miles away) and the security were always watching me because I'd always grab a load of them and eat them all 🤣
PREACH!
I remember Flit insect spray! We used it in Kenya in the 1960s.
Michael Bay, I definitely laughed out loud at that one. You learn something new every day it seems.
For many years, I've told people the only thing directed by Michael Bay that I've enjoyed is that got milk? commercial.
Okay... usually your snarky jokes don't work but the Michael Bay explosion remark genuinely cracked me up, for once. Well played, sir.
crab apples are frikkin AMAZING, and go great with salty things, like salted caramel. the sour salty sweet combo is EPIC!
The part you didn't mention, Simon is that the man in that 'got milk' advertisement is the one and only Thomas Dolby who was "Blinded by Science"
That's not true. It was a guy named sean whalen. The DJ was voiced by Rob Paulsen.
Today I learned apple pie is Dutch, babies can potty train from 9 to 12 months, and Michael Bay directed the first Got Milk ad.
That, got milk?, commercial is almost certainly way the play Hamilton exists.
*Why
The got milk?, Hamilton commercial!
It's a fun little coincidence, but Lin-Manuel Miranda who wrote it says it was inspired by a biography of Hamilton.
I know that. He likely read it because he, like all of us, grew up with intrinsic knowledge based on the commercial. (Please don't make me use the word 'zeitgeist'.)
Dramatically explodes! 😂 That's a good one!
The "got milk?" Aaron Burr commercial is good, but my favorite was the one with Mr. Miller, who doesn't drink milk. When his arms explode off he just says, " Oh, that's not good"
Cracks me up every time
have you seen the Leslie Odom Jr., who plays Aaron Burr in the Broadway musical "Hamilton" parody? th-cam.com/video/Z-KoAi3Nl9Q/w-d-xo.html
My grandmother started my potty training, when I was 9 months old. She & my mom only allowed cloth diapers used on me. And, she thought diapers were unnecessary extra work, since they had to be constantly washed.
I laughed a little too hard at the house blowing up joke.
I'm hungry now. imma grab some some apple pie
Rally's Restaurants have two small apple or cherry pies for a Dollar plus tax.
@@hydrolito lol good to know. Thanks
And wash it down with a big glass of milk.
Cool video
Simon: 'Early apple pie recipes are different from today's in that they rarely called for sugar, an expensive and hard to get item at the time.'
Also Simon: 'The first recorded recipe for apple pie.... called for saffron...'
I feel like I saw this last week. Maybe I'm confusing it
I used cloth. My kids were born in '92 & '95. I see it as they can't feel it with diapers these days, and if they can't feel it, how will they know it's a lot better when their pants are dry. My son was done, day and night, by 18 months, my daughter by 2. She was a late walker (14 months) and I didn't start training until they were walking.
Thank you .
Apis mellifera literally translates to "honey-carrying bee". I've always wondered why they didn't call them mellifex, but I guess they considered the sugar water as being the major part, and skipped over the unique... Enhancements the bees add to the mix.
Was that got milk add actor the same guy that was the crazy artist restorer from Ghostbusters 2?
I never realised Americans thought apple pie was American (because apples are all over the world, and pastry is too) until I saw American Pie as a teen, and then finally realised it wasn’t just called that because of *that scene*.... I guess it was about my mid 20s?? lol I couldn’t believe that they were claiming nobody else was known for apple pies?? Like... they have never been to Europe?? Each country has its own version of fruit pie (tatin, strudel etc sorry if spelled wrong!)... although, to be fair, the audacity is SO American.
We also claim pizza (chicago or new york style), and just about everything else because 'Merika.
You'd be surprised of how many folks in the US believe that Henry Ford invented the automobile, Albert Einstein was a born US citizen and how many believe that cars, computers and microwave ovens were unknown in other countries.
Everybody knows the world didn't exist before America
@@NKA23 ...and only the microwave oven could be truly claimed as an American invention, at least initially, though the cavity magnetron used in more modern versions that approached a reasonable size and cost wete born out of British radar developments. The rest definitely came from a range of other countries.
Is this a reissued episode?
Man, this channel is sometimes a direct segue from what I read on Reddit, and I'm complete ok with that. It's sort of like hearing your drunk friend ramble on about some weird event, then you turn on the news just to find out he was right.
TIFO: Is apple pie actually American?
America: It is now. You got a problem?
Laughing in Mandarin at the presumption of Americans, given China grows half the world's supply.
@@shebbs1 Laughing in Texan. Pulls apple of my grandmother's tree.
as an american, i like pecan pie better. also i knew it wasn't american this country is a big mish mash of culture and its beautiful that way.
@ArmchairWarrior Ill eat pretty much all pie, especially the meat ones
I want to like these videos but for some reason the music in the background is always too distracting. It's not backgroundy enough. Maybe it's just a me problem lol
Thanks a lot Simon it's 1.20am i live in the middle of nowhere and now i want Apple Bloody Pie...and custard.
The "apple pie" slogan that sticks with me is H Rap Brown saying, "Violence is as American as Apple Pie."
Yup, as American as Baseball, Hot Dogs and Apple Pie
As with all foods, the only thing american about it is the copious amount of sugar.
Riesenfriese it’s as American as diabetes.
I'm sure our portion sizes are also bigger, because 'Merika.
@Apple Tek Support Like what?
Riesenfriese
Buffalo wings
Reubens
Pecan pie
Chocolate chip cookies
S'mores
Lobster roll
Corn dogs
I just pulled these off a list, a lot make sense but there some debate about some of them
@@rstriker21 why did i think riesenfriese was a food in that list
I got a milk advertisement in the middle of the bonus facts. Rather amused me
So, nobody is sure where the phrase originated. But in the 1960s marketing departments discovered its power. Nothing is more American than marketing.
My mom's little sister was born when my mom was 9. Because of this, she remembers my aunt being potty trained as an infant. She was so little, she had to be held up and supported on the edge of the toilet. Grandma would tell her to potty and she would. If I recall what my mom said about her age, she was somewhere between 6 - 9 months old.
Back in the day, the phrase was " As American as blueberry pie". See "Mr.Blandings builds his dream house"
"If you ain't eating Wham, You ain't eating ham". Name that movie. LOL One hint. Cary Grant played Mr Blandings an adman.;)
As British as Apple pie!
Pretty sure we didn't invent it either, though it may have been British recipess that went to the Americas and hecame popular there. There were also Dutch, German and other versions too, though the most common type in the US is more British in style.
Should be as American as Cranberry (insert cranberry derivative as Cranberries are native to north america)
Came for apple pie and I... got milk?
Johnny Appleseed didn't plant eating-apples. (he actually used planting of orchards as a means of claiming land, which he was very prolific at) everyone made cider, as beer ingredients were hard to get on the frontier, and nobody in their right mind drank water at the time. or else it was coffee or tea. if he did plant seeds, they would most likely be unpalatable, unless they were used as rootstock to graft eating-apple varieties onto.
Nice bonus fact! Though I recall the Guy in what he thinks is heaven with chocolate chips cookies and a fridge full of milk.
The main difference (I am British) that I have noticed between British and American apple pies. Is Americans tend to eat apple pie highly processed filling and crust, in the UK we are more likely to eat apple pie homemade as part of apple season.
All of American cuisine is a highly processed version of European cuisine for example; Hot Dogs (German), Donuts (French), Apple Pie (English), Pizza (Italian), Mac and Cheese (Italian) ECT. ...
While watching the milk segment of this video it was interrupted by a milk commercial...
The irony is that i got an ad for some fake plant based "milk" in the middle of this. 😆
Dutch apple pie is what German (Deutsch) pies were called in the U.S. and Canada. The recipe calls for sour cream over the apple slices, as my Nan (a German descendant) used to do. Deeeee-licious!
Similar foods tends to differ in presentation and taste a bit from country to country. Meatballs aren’t originally swedish, but many of us still call them Swedish meatballs. They tend to bit different than in other parts of the world, We eat them with other sauces.
People need to get over themselves. Some aspects of interacting cultures Will branch and evolve into something different, doesn’t matter if you try to police it.
Is there any truth to the story that Granny Smith apples were first grown, quite by accident, by an old lady in Sydney the locals called Granny Smith? Would love to hear you tell that story - or the true one - in a video some time.
Just how many channels this dude has???
Yep I know the terror of running out of milk. The other day my work offered free milk we had unopened bottles about to expire. I declined since I knew I had some back home. Upon my return home I not only discovered the half drunk cup of coffee I'd abandoned while rushing out the door I also discovered that nearly full bottle of milk left sat in the warm sun light all day. 🤦🏻♂️
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I have a suggestion: Where and when did the term "Hair of the dog" originate from?
Some stores sell Dutch apple pies could be different than whatever is considered American apple pie. Is Dutch apple pie really Dutch?
In America our Dutch Apple pies are apple pies with a crumbly streussel topping. In the Netherlands, their apple pies have apples, raisins, cream, and almond paste in them (or at least the ones I've had did). So good question!