Some of these I can understand, like Nintendo not wanting their IP over a kart racing event where there’s a good chance someone will die whilst dressed as Mario. But trying to ban people just playing a video game at a tournament is ridiculous. It’s like saying you can buy an album but can’t dance to it…
I guess it's more like, you can buy an album but you can't play it publicly. Except video games don't typically work in the same way as music, especially things like fighting games - watching the game isn't the same thing as actually playing it yourself. If anything, I expect tournaments like that would drive interest in the game and encourage more sales.
@@alexbruce9499 it feels like what Nintendo SHOULD have suggested is that the tournaments can only occur if they also advertise those games and encourage players and other attendees to buy them and other official Nintendo products. Problem solved. Nintendo gets free marketing and everyone still gets to have fun. Right?
@@yuvi3000 its not that simple you would also have to have some type of protection if your trying to run a massive tournament surprise there hasnt been any mass shootings yet from how relaxed rules to those places are
That's always been the catch with Nintendo, they generally make great games but their attitude to actual people is draconian. Shutting down fan games, not making Nintendo music available to listen to on streaming services or just anything general vaguely related to their IP's.
Yeah. Nintendo really takes their copyrights seriously. I feel like most people turn Nintendo into a cruel video game dictator. In truth, they just really don't like people stealing their stuff.
It goes beyond disliking people stealing your stuff when you're shutting down labor of love fan projects that NEVER claim to be anything other than a FAN PROJECT left and right because, shock and horror, when you make good games people are going to love them and be inspired by them It also goes beyond disliking people stealing your stuff when you shut down people trying to PRESERVE the stuff you make and maybe even bring it to new generations because god knows you refuse to It *also* goes beyond disliking people stealing your stuff when you shut down things like game tourneys, who literally aren't even stealing, just because ?? you don't like that people enjoy the fighting game you made the way niches of people have Always enjoyed fighting games ??? If they don't want to be treated like a dictator they should stop acting like one towards the very people who are, more often than not, the ones who love their games the most
Well, that's a problem with karting-on-streets itself though, not with copyright. If they did it without Mario costumes, it would still be as dangerous and chaotic.
Exactly, the part people commonly omit from stories like this is how many of these did have negatives that affected Nintendo in some way. It's like how people try to defend Gary Bowser, saying his sentence was excessive, but he truly did some really scummy things and bricked many player's consoles (like completely and utterly, almost nothing could be done to undo the damage,) in an ironic attempt to protect his pirating software from being pirated
Not to forget there are other go kart companies operating (Monkey Kart for example). The company that was sued used the Nintendo name and issued costumes based off of Nintendo characters. Number of accidents too. Recent one when a straggler driver hit a taxicab and an earlier one when a driver hit a British pub sign.
Pretty sure I agree with that first one too, the Gary's mod was it? I can imagine the sheer amount of characters that nobody at Nintendo would ever want to see share screen time with their stars. And come on... we know how many naughty things people were making those characters do.
I remember Nintendo trying to copyright claim and get the ad revenue for a 3 hour gaming podcast that used 30 seconds of the trailer for a pokemon game
I also remember Nintendo copystriking game reviewers and their channels.... but ONLY if they were even slightly critical of their games. So as long as the games were praised to high hell, 10/10 game, then it'd be allowed to stay up.
Sometimes company have to be strict about their property. The more they let things slide, the less grounds they have someone actually does infringe on their copyright, but even so, Nintendo can be a bit over the top.
@@ghostderazgriz Copyright striking a journalist podcast or a game review is not "not-letting things slide". Nor is Nintendo ever in danger of losing a copyright of an IP they own (or at least, not until it becomes public domain). You're thinking Trademark, and that's an entirely different beast. In my amateur opinion, Nintendo is indirectly but actively practicing "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation" strategies, which are - talking in wide strokes - anti-consumer. Nintendo would love it if they alone could dictate what can be said about their products, and is making the environment hostile for anyone else trying to participate. There's good reasons why there are so many Anti-SLAPP rules and laws put in place, including the _Consumer Review Fairness Act,_ signed by Obama in 2016.
reminds me when Nintendo got rid of an online Super Mario Royale website, and when the 35th anniversary came around, they made their own Mario Royale until it was closed forever.
'Locking away' is a bit extreme, don't you think? Although I've come around to think that video game consoles in general are a big problem with the industry as a whole, it'd also be rather difficult to offer every game ever produced in perpetuity, especially in cases where licensing may be involved.
@@Geminius21Gaming Eh, we've had the gold standard in front of us for decades now: PC. An almost completely modular 'console' whose potential is only limited by available technology rather than what the manufacturer designs. Or more simply, PC master race. If all the console manufacturers dropped the hardware arms race and just focused on making games instead with PC as a universal platform, there'd be far fewer concerns about games being 'lost' on old hardware.
@@qactustick you know that a lot of older games are unplayable (even with emulators) on modern PC's... while there are less of them. Even games that are available on GOG won't always work (even in the GOG loader)
It's not quite the same, but one of the main reasons Undertale exists is because Toby Fox used to do Earthbound remixes and ROM hacks because Nintendo just weren't interested in that series or releasing the music.
Nintendo is like Disney: Everyone has fond nostalgia for them which means people defend these billion dollar corporations that love sending layers after any and everyone.
Yeah I didn't grow up with consoles so my first console was a switch at 25yo 😅 safe to say I have no nostalgia and hate Nintendo as a company (but not their games)
At least Disney stuff is relegated in multimedia via TVs, movies, games, books, streaming, and so on makes sure their best and finest works have more chance of preservation and easy-to-reaccess good times. Nintendo basically doing console exclusives with rare multiplatform awesomeness... now that's a huge pity for PS, Xbox, and PC gamers.
While unfortunately, the lousy toxic complainers will tend to send death threats and want to gun down any developers and employees considering the fact they don't have anything to do with the DMCA legal team or takedowns, The problem is when people blame Nintendo as a whole, They're dragging in its developers and employees.
Despite nintendo's annoying posessive monopoly, the worst part of the company is there inability to let people enjoy their older games, some of which are nearly impossible to find now.
Nintendo does that because there is a remote possibility that Nintendo might someday decide to port that dead, forgotten game to a current gen console. You know it won't happen, I know it won't happen, Nintendo knows it won't happen, but Nintendo won't admit that to anybody.
@@Chris_Sizemore Not only that... If you are playing that dead, forgotten game, you are not thinking of purchasing the latest game. That's lost revenue, they'd make that illegal if they could.
That’s the part that really grinds my gears. I’d somewhat excuse Nintendo’s zealous “protection” of their IP if they continued supporting their older games with remastered editions or something, where there was a legit alternative. But they don’t. There’s a sizable market of fans who WANT to continue appreciating older Nintendo games, but can’t. Because Nintendo. And pretty much any time anything put together by fans starts to get traction, they throw out a cease and desist to shut it down.
The one thankful thing. Aside from the original NES. All of their consoles are pretty easy and inexpensive to clean and maintain. And their storage cartridges are some of the most durable, if properly maintained and stored correctly. I know people seem to like more open space where they live, but most of the tine physical media is the best way to preserve these old games. I'm so thankful the second hand market is as more accessible and available than it has ever been before. Companies don't like it when we keep old things. Companies like it when our things break or we get bored and we buy new things.
The Smash Bros section is the bit that confuses me the most. Almost every other game company that makes fighting games is fine with their titles appearing at places like EVO, mainly because they recognise that people like to play their fighting games, often so much that they're willing to go to these tournaments. So why does Nintendo seemingly hate the idea of people playing Smash Bros competitively?
How I've thought about the whole thing was, Ultimate has an active, official online scene. That would've been just fine for tournament play. When it comes to using Slippi though, it's an emulator and you can't guarantee everyone ripped the iso from a copy of melee, so possibly, their worry was people making money from a tournament using potentially pirated copies of their game.
I almost want to day, perhaps seeing the game in a competitive scene might make it seem less "casual friendly" which is the intended niche? As a game meant for anyone to fool around it, rather than a competitive focused game? But I think the emulator thing might be a thing, also that they are playing an older game and misrepresenting the current smash bros. (And encourage piracy for people to get the old game instead of the new one)
Nintendo is extremely brand-conscious. They don't like that their fighting game is taken seriously; they want it to be viewed as light-hearted family fun like their other games. They just seem to have neglected to tell the actual developers that, and instead let them develop a technically detailed and high-precision fighting game.
@@rudorot65Genuinely, who cares? If the logic is that they might profit from pirates versions of the games, why would those people stop at just pirating? If those people were already breaking the law, they'd just have their tournaments anyways, because that's just another even less serious crime. I believe, hell I'm almost completely certain, that the reason they shut down tournaments and fan games is because they're so greedy and borderline evil that they can't stand the idea of anyone profiting off of their IP, even if that profit is completely legal. A team making a fan game of a Nintendo IP that they don't charge for, is completely legal, but because those teams take donations for their work, Nintendo wants to destroy them. I think it's that simple, they want every penny from every avenue.
Besides what others said, there was also the issue of Project M. You see, Melee fell to the wayside because the Gamecube only has analog outputs and A/D converters cause lag, necessitating tournament hosters to have not just the console, but a CRT TV with analog inputs along. Project M was a mod of Brawl which attempted to emulate Melee mechanics in it and ended up being among the preferred platforms in the competetive scene, due to the Wii having digital outputs (not necessitating the specialized equipment) and because the Project M devs understood how to balance the game. Around 2014, Nintendo decided to scapegoat Project M popularity as the reason why they don't want to interact with the FGC, and people fell for that hollow promise.
Tbh the karts in Tokyo are popular amongst tourists, but locals have detested them for years. There have been calls for them to be flat out banned because of how dangerous they have been.
@@SolKaras I live in an area just outside Yokohama, so I nip into Tokyo a lot. Whenever I go to areas like Akihabra you are guaranteed to see a tourist group speeding about in the karts. Japanese folks are reserved, but they tend to laugh at funny things from time to time. Nobody seems to be amused with the karts. There is an issue with over-tourism right now, and foreigner behaviour is one of the primary focuses of that issue. People treat Japan like a fantasy world with little to no respect for local etiquette. The karts are possibly the most emblematic thing regarding this.
Trust me, with how stupid people are getting, especially "prankster" tourists, it might happen pretty soon. I've heard recently that some historical areas were closed off to tourists because of how ungrateful they were.
Remember: anyone could be a Nintendo lawyer in disguise: Friends, family, your significant other(s), coworkers, random passersby, people who work in the shops you frequent... hell, even your neighbor's dog
@@shadow_blaze2317 forgot about that detail. Will edit that in, but could a parent's children be lawyers in disguise if they're in the post-graduate age range?
The only thing on this list that isn't straight up a dick move is the go-karting thing. Racing go-karts on open roads is going to get someone killed at some point.
@@sdf434-pp8jd Genuinely just want to know, enlighten me. I have a suspicion of what you’re getting at but… maybe there’s more to it? Guessing it has something to do with some people have a tendency to get pyschoticly aggressive when they lose.
If I remember correctly, there was already an incident where one of the go-karts went off the road and crashed into a storefront. Probably another reason Nintendo doesn't want them having anything to do with their IP.
So, my dad worked in the game rental business when I was a kid. The whole Nintendo-not-wanting-people-to-rent is why I grew up with a Sega Genesis. (Side story: his boss once made him go around the U.S. obtaining copies of Sonic the Hedgehog to distribute to rental stores despite my dad trying to tell him the game came with the console. You can guess how that went long-term. Worked out better with Sonic 2, which came out on my birthday 😂)
7:42 to 8:54 | The DMCA needs an overhaul. Nintendo's based in Japan, which doesn't have an equivalent of the US's Fair Use doctrines and leads to a lot of hardass situations such as the fangame crackdown.
The ironic part of this whole situation is how much Japan has straight up ripped off countless other IP from countries around the world. There's an entire era of guitar manufacturing where Japanese companies straight up ripped off USA company designs, even going as far as creating a new version of their logo that more closely represented the USA company logo. The practice still happens today, they just aren't allowed to legally export them for sale outside Japan anymore, but it doesn't fully stop it from happening. The company that was contracted to import Fender Guitars to Japan in the 60's and 70's only agreed to do so after a contractual agreement that they were allowed to copy the product for domestic sale within Japan. They were eventually (decades later) brought into the Fender family umbrella as an official product, but still.
Nintendo will never understand that Gabe Newell has always had it right; "The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." Shutting down all these fan projects just fosters hate when they staunchly refuse to offer any equivalent services - especially in the case of the tournaments and music takedowns.
Another Drawfee fan! Apparently a hand drawn lounging opossum with a mushroom hat could very easily be confused with one of the most recognizable video game characters in the world.
@@winter.nevada I did like Julia's pugnacious comment about really wanting to say "what part of this image is Nintendo property?" Did you notice that Ellen finished this video saying "we're sorry"? Obviously she heard that Drawfee was taking things easier and decided to pick up some of the slack.
I will never understand why Nintendo are so lawsuit heavy. Like yeah I understand that companies have control over their own IPs and they have every right to do what they want with them for better or worse etc, but why does it feel like Nintendo is more... Draconic when it comes to this stuff?
Disney does the same thing. It isn’t just about protecting profits. Third party content can cause damage to the public’s view of an IP. Not only that, but if they DON’T rigorously defend their copyright they could potentially lose their copyright. Which would be a BIG deal. If Nintendo lost the rights to Mario and Zelda it could actually be ruinous for the company. So there are actually good reasons for their actions. It isn’t just being a dystopian mega corp. I feel like they could handle these things better though.
@@עומרשרייבר-ל4ר indeed. Like the Mario Kart company in Tokyo. They could have easily said “if you want to keep doing this you have to pay us $XXX dollars every year for the right to use our IPs.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing No. Just no. Everybody knows Mario and Zelda are owned by Nintendo. There is no danger of them losing the copyrights. N is just a corporate bully, like Disney.
I love your videos that are more critical of video games/video game companies/practices in the industry; it feels like everyday the industry gets worse and worse, and I think it’s cool you guys are using your platform to shine a light on it, especially through this approachable, digestible format that anyone can enjoy Thank you for all you do!
@captainpikle7444 Wait... are you my long-lost uncle that works at Nintendo? All the other kids at the playground never believed me when I told them about you!
To expand on the Pokémon entry; they also made that statement a few years back that ‘nuzelocks’ and other self-imposed challenges were improper ways to play the games and would be perceived in a similar way to the rom hacks.
No. They decide how you play. So the next Mario game won't come with online coop, because it was made with couch coop in mind. (Literaly the reason, why 3d World on WiiU didn't have online)
Ohhhhhhh, I can think of a real big one for the commenter's edition: when the absolute scumbags sued Gary Bowser. The man got 40 months in prison, owes them 14.5 mil AND between 10-15% of any annual salary he gets for basically the remainder of his life. They not only sent a man to jail for emulating some games but have essentially guaranteed that the remainder of his life will be significantly harder. That is cyberpunk corporation level shit: utilising corporate law loopholes in order to guarantee what is practically a life sentence when a "true" life sentence wasn't legally a possibility.
Ah, but why would they allow emulated versions of their games when they can charge you $70 for a 10 year old game? I hate Nintendo's business practices and how they treat their fans. I fully understand stopping people profiting from their IP'S but most of what they do just harms the fans.
@@Zoso14892 I understand protecting IP as well but going as far as possible to destroy a human beings life is perhaps where I draw the line...I might draw the line a scooch before then actually...but only a scooch and no more than a scooch
@@Zoso14892This is why I stopped buying Nintendo games a few years ago. I really don't understand how anyone stomachs their behavior. The crusade they had against fan gatherings and fan made content a few years back was the final nail in the coffin for me. First party Nintendo games, in my opinion, aren't even that good, and especially aren't good enough to excuse their behavior.
@@NottherealLucifer it's legitimately insane. The entire reason I initially considered emulating Switch games was because the hardware and games NEVER reduce in price then their consistent demonic behaviour made me go "Know what? Fuck even emulating your stuff at this point."
@basicjenkins it's a horrific reaction to the apparent crime. Considering a cease and desist would more or less achieve the same thing as far as they are concerned. I only mean that I can understand them stopping the real-life Mario Kart and things of that nature!
You know Gabe Newel saying pirating thrives whan it's more convenient than the legal alternative ? Nintendo's legal team policy is the opposite : make it super inconvenient to enjoy their stuff so pirating is unavoidable, so they're essential to counter it. No layoffs there !
But hiring people means money they have to spend on them. Why give people money when you can earn more through a lawsuit. Nintendo is literally Von Karma with the taser out.
I follow a lot of musicians who makes covers of video game music on youtube, and relatively recently any of them who had created sheet music themselves for music from Nintendo games had to stop offering people the sheet music or risk being in Nintendo's crosshairs. This is one of the ways musicians are able to make money, so it really screwed over anyone who had a mainly Nintendo catalogue of sheet music (which again - they created themselves by ear)
I love music and I love people making video game covers, but come on, you really shouldn't be relying on making money through other peoples' music. Even if they wrote the sheet music themselves by ear, that's still someone else's tunes they're transcribing.
I remember looking up copyright reform, found a Quora discussion, and…oh boy. I was honestly shocked by how many people in that chat actually SUPPORTED Nintendo. A few actually wanted to add more teeth to copyright law.
@@goldenfiberwheat238 - Oh I remember this one! It happened last year after Wizards of the Coast accidentally sent a youtuber some special cards that wasn't meant to be released publically that were unintentionally leaked during an unboxing, so their parent company (Hasbro) sent the pinkertons to his home to retrieve those cards and caused some emotional distress to the youtuber's wife with threats of severe penalties for not handing the stuff over. Y'know, the same pinkertons that are responsible for why america's police force turned out the way it did because of their union-busting nastiness even if they're no longer as powerful or influential as they used to be after the anti-pinkerton act of 1893 WOTC fans (and by extension fans of anything owned by Hasbro) were _not happy_ when the news went public
Lucky for me, I was able to see Mari cart in full action when I was in Tokyo, seeing a Peach, Yoshi and Wario driving through the streets was hilarious on my way back from the Pokemon Centre
Agreed. I was out of work for over a year when my Mom was injured and needed me to help around the house. We rented Tengen’s version of Tetris for like a week straight and then went grocery shopping. It’s amazing how much stuff you can put in a buggy when you’ve been playing Tetris for a week lol😅
Nintendo currently: We're here to make everyone happy! everyone: *Calling Nintendo out on their crappy business tactics, their overly strict policies for various stuff, and the petty things they've done to others* Nintendo in the future: Why does everyone hate us!? WE'RE LEGALLY CORRECT!
I love that the Game Genie section specifically references Battletoads - as using the Game Genie for extra lives with Battletoads actually made every 3rd level unbeatable because a platform would go missing so even using the Game Genie didn't enable you to beat Battletoads.
Am I the only one that didn't think Battletoads was that hard? You had to get the right timing for that one section (anticipating jumping twice quickly) but otherwise it's not like its a Souls game or something.
You forgot to mention the C64 game "Great Giana Sisters". They got pulled off store shelves because Nintendo said the platforming and characters looked too similar to the Mario Bros.
Oh, so THAT'S why rental games always had those weird instruction booklets! Honestly though I hadn't thought about that sort of thing for 30 years, but there's an answer, at least.
I'm looking at Todd (from mario) and like... I don't know anything about the law, but I morally I feel like this should fall under obvious parody? It barely resembles toad and I find it pretty unbelieveable that someone reasonable would be confused.
theres another one nintendo did, they took down the fan made game "100 mario royale" which was some of the craziest and fun mario gameplay, 100 players, first levels, speed run to the end, it was pure chaos and i loved it, shame nintendo took it down then pushed out their half baked version 36 mario game which had a LIMITED shelf life by design so you cant play it after a specific date
Boy... without revealing too much about my age, it really was cool being able to rent games at Blockbuster as a kid. The whole process of going once a week after dinner out with my family, making the selection, gaming and watching our movies together... good times.
On one end I get why they do this, it's IP protection and avoiding the chances that anyone makes money off their creations. But on the other hand, they LITERALLY will not offer an alternative to certain things. Like older games just ceasing to exist and them doing next to nothing to keep them from being forgotten. The only time they'll remember an old game is if you remember it first and tried to bring it back.
Completely off-topic but kudos to Outside Xtra. I thought my phone was ringing during the first segment - but no, you just used the Half Life Closing theme as the background music, the same version I had set as a ringtone for the past 20 years. 👍🏼
Person makes a great, high-quality and beloved fangame. Nintendo: DMCA and pay us you fucks. Sega: Come work for us! Palworld: (Gives Nintendo the middle finger.)
To be fair on the Tetris thing, Elorg didn't sell the rights to console rights for Tetris to MirrorSoft. They sold the rights for IBM and "other kinds of computers", and MirrorSoft tried to use that wording to make consoles count. Elorg was pissed after finding out about the console versions of the game and when MirrorSoft was late on a payment, they included a backdated addition to the contract that defined a computer in a way that excluded modern game consoles.
What makes it amusing is that other game consoles don't have this problem by simply being too difficult to emulate. The answer to your problems is right there Nintendo.
Tbf, they can’t touch emulators. Those are entirely legal. What they can touch is roms, since distributing roms is entirely illegal, so they are within their rights there.
@@justin2308 there is. If you back up your own cartridges or discs or something, that is legally your rom. If you distribute it, it’s piracy, but you can have back-ups
The Game Genie ad montage is some cynical fun. You can see the pop-culture moment when Sega was like, _Sure yeah, credit us when you show Sonic in the commercial, and don't forget to tell the kids which company_ *doesn't* _plan to ban their Christmas list_
Another one I can think of is Pixelmon. A mod that added pokemon mechanics to Minecraft. Of course, after it got DMCA'd, a bunch of players picked up the project and suddenly there were multiple Pixelmon versions out, and now Cobblemon also exists, so it sort of backfired
You joke about the DMCA you'd get for this video, but remember that Did you know gaming got one for talking about canceled games from over 20 years ago.
There is one Pokemon fan game that I regret not getting while I had the chance: Pokemon Uranium. Something about a post-apocalyptic Pokemon and a new Nuclear type really had me interested.
I remember a gloriously fraught couple of days when Nintendo declared that they were gonna start DMCA-ing TH-cam videos featuring any of their gameplay. Even a straight-up, no-frills Let's Play or a stream VOD wouldn't be safe. That might've been one of the few instances of Nintendo backing down in the face of overwhelming customer outcry. Well, a combination of outcry and realising that fewer people would buy their games if they never got to see them in action first.
More on the smash topic, special shoutout to Project M. PM unlocked so much more potential smash brawl ever did. To this day my friends and I play PM on my Wii.
TH-cam art channel Drawfee got a weird copyright from Nintendo over a drawing of a possum in a diaper that said “Todd from Mario”. Even though there’s weirder things out there. Also, one of the artists from Drawfee made the game “You Awaken in a Strange Place” which was played on Oxventure.
How about how Nintendo bulldogged Citra from emulating 3DS? You know the system where they pulled the plug on the online store making local flashes the only source for some really good games? Almost certainly because Citra developers also did emulators for Switch (bad move on a live system), a lot of 3DS games may get lost soon. For me, Steam is now the only place I'll buy electronic copies of games, as at least they don't disappear if I upgrade my computer. At least not yet :/
"Nintendo is not offering an alternative." should be Nintendo's new slogan.
Are you sure about that?
thats why its called nintendont
Nintendo: Because you have no choice. (I say literally playing my switch 😂)
@@cmdraftbrn sega in fact does
@@bloodystatic4156 yes, thats why im playing using emulators despite having a Switch.
Some of these I can understand, like Nintendo not wanting their IP over a kart racing event where there’s a good chance someone will die whilst dressed as Mario. But trying to ban people just playing a video game at a tournament is ridiculous. It’s like saying you can buy an album but can’t dance to it…
I guess it's more like, you can buy an album but you can't play it publicly. Except video games don't typically work in the same way as music, especially things like fighting games - watching the game isn't the same thing as actually playing it yourself. If anything, I expect tournaments like that would drive interest in the game and encourage more sales.
There's more behind the smash bros on than this video told. If you dig into it, trust me, you'll understand that one too.
Considering the number of grooming and sexual harassment allegations in that community as recently as two years ago, I fully understand the position.
@@alexbruce9499 it feels like what Nintendo SHOULD have suggested is that the tournaments can only occur if they also advertise those games and encourage players and other attendees to buy them and other official Nintendo products. Problem solved. Nintendo gets free marketing and everyone still gets to have fun. Right?
@@yuvi3000 its not that simple you would also have to have some type of protection if your trying to run a massive tournament surprise there hasnt been any mass shootings yet from how relaxed rules to those places are
Commenting before Nintendo sends a Cease & Desist for this video.
Nintendo said they were sending one for your comment, something bout "against terms and service" or something. They wanna talk with you real quick.
Definitely gonna get a cease & desist from nintendo for commenting.
God, I hope Nintendo isn’t the Ferrari of the gaming industry
@@jordanrcxd 100% they are and have been😂
More like Nintendon't am I right
I don't think I'll ever have the solid brass ones to pick a fight with Nintendo, lose, and then immediately turn around and mad dog Disney. Props.
“Nintendo must’ve been touching a bunch of lawyers then”
I’m glad I have the context to this.
Hopefully somebody will make an out of context clip.
I spit my drink out when I heard that haha
Even with context, my dirty mind had me grinning.
Nintendo touches their lawyers in their happy place.
Their wallets.
Context or no, it's a pretty accurate statement.
That's always been the catch with Nintendo, they generally make great games but their attitude to actual people is draconian. Shutting down fan games, not making Nintendo music available to listen to on streaming services or just anything general vaguely related to their IP's.
Yeah. Nintendo really takes their copyrights seriously. I feel like most people turn Nintendo into a cruel video game dictator. In truth, they just really don't like people stealing their stuff.
It goes beyond disliking people stealing your stuff when you're shutting down labor of love fan projects that NEVER claim to be anything other than a FAN PROJECT left and right because, shock and horror, when you make good games people are going to love them and be inspired by them
It also goes beyond disliking people stealing your stuff when you shut down people trying to PRESERVE the stuff you make and maybe even bring it to new generations because god knows you refuse to
It *also* goes beyond disliking people stealing your stuff when you shut down things like game tourneys, who literally aren't even stealing, just because ?? you don't like that people enjoy the fighting game you made the way niches of people have Always enjoyed fighting games ???
If they don't want to be treated like a dictator they should stop acting like one towards the very people who are, more often than not, the ones who love their games the most
The kart one might be the single good call of the list. Heard that Tokyo residents hate the chaos it causes
Well, that's a problem with karting-on-streets itself though, not with copyright. If they did it without Mario costumes, it would still be as dangerous and chaotic.
Exactly, the part people commonly omit from stories like this is how many of these did have negatives that affected Nintendo in some way. It's like how people try to defend Gary Bowser, saying his sentence was excessive, but he truly did some really scummy things and bricked many player's consoles (like completely and utterly, almost nothing could be done to undo the damage,) in an ironic attempt to protect his pirating software from being pirated
@@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х I mean, that's the point, it was negatively affecting Nintendo's brand image while also causing such problems
Not to forget there are other go kart companies operating (Monkey Kart for example). The company that was sued used the Nintendo name and issued costumes based off of Nintendo characters.
Number of accidents too. Recent one when a straggler driver hit a taxicab and an earlier one when a driver hit a British pub sign.
Pretty sure I agree with that first one too, the Gary's mod was it? I can imagine the sheer amount of characters that nobody at Nintendo would ever want to see share screen time with their stars. And come on... we know how many naughty things people were making those characters do.
Appreciate how you let those old ads play out fully. Boy that is a trip
I remember Nintendo trying to copyright claim and get the ad revenue for a 3 hour gaming podcast that used 30 seconds of the trailer for a pokemon game
I remember that being The Gamestation Podcast. I don't think they covered anything Nintendo ever again because of it.
I also remember Nintendo copystriking game reviewers and their channels.... but ONLY if they were even slightly critical of their games. So as long as the games were praised to high hell, 10/10 game, then it'd be allowed to stay up.
Sometimes company have to be strict about their property. The more they let things slide, the less grounds they have someone actually does infringe on their copyright, but even so, Nintendo can be a bit over the top.
@@ghostderazgriz Copyright striking a journalist podcast or a game review is not "not-letting things slide". Nor is Nintendo ever in danger of losing a copyright of an IP they own (or at least, not until it becomes public domain). You're thinking Trademark, and that's an entirely different beast.
In my amateur opinion, Nintendo is indirectly but actively practicing "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation" strategies, which are - talking in wide strokes - anti-consumer. Nintendo would love it if they alone could dictate what can be said about their products, and is making the environment hostile for anyone else trying to participate.
There's good reasons why there are so many Anti-SLAPP rules and laws put in place, including the _Consumer Review Fairness Act,_ signed by Obama in 2016.
@@ghostderazgriz +100 Social Credits have been added to your account!
reminds me when Nintendo got rid of an online Super Mario Royale website, and when the 35th anniversary came around, they made their own Mario Royale until it was closed forever.
I wish that was still a thing that was such a good game
Don't forget about them locking away games on old consoles and never bringing them to new consoles.
Except the ones that nobody remembers and then they pretend they care about nostalgia.
'Locking away' is a bit extreme, don't you think? Although I've come around to think that video game consoles in general are a big problem with the industry as a whole, it'd also be rather difficult to offer every game ever produced in perpetuity, especially in cases where licensing may be involved.
@@qactustick you're not wrong. But killing every old system for a system that's glitchier isn't worthit.
@@Geminius21Gaming Eh, we've had the gold standard in front of us for decades now: PC. An almost completely modular 'console' whose potential is only limited by available technology rather than what the manufacturer designs. Or more simply, PC master race.
If all the console manufacturers dropped the hardware arms race and just focused on making games instead with PC as a universal platform, there'd be far fewer concerns about games being 'lost' on old hardware.
@@qactustick you know that a lot of older games are unplayable (even with emulators) on modern PC's... while there are less of them. Even games that are available on GOG won't always work (even in the GOG loader)
It's not quite the same, but one of the main reasons Undertale exists is because Toby Fox used to do Earthbound remixes and ROM hacks because Nintendo just weren't interested in that series or releasing the music.
that game genie ad was so 90s, it's hella radical.
Totally gnarly & tubular!
Bodacious
@@spacechannelfiver Ch'yah! Fer sher. 😎🤙
Execpt "hella" is so 2000s
That blockbuster ad was too
Nintendo is like Disney: Everyone has fond nostalgia for them which means people defend these billion dollar corporations that love sending layers after any and everyone.
Yeah I didn't grow up with consoles so my first console was a switch at 25yo 😅 safe to say I have no nostalgia and hate Nintendo as a company (but not their games)
@@Natsukashii1111 i feel that way about EA. as a company they are the worst. that said i really do enjoy their games
At least Disney stuff is relegated in multimedia via TVs, movies, games, books, streaming, and so on makes sure their best and finest works have more chance of preservation and easy-to-reaccess good times.
Nintendo basically doing console exclusives with rare multiplatform awesomeness... now that's a huge pity for PS, Xbox, and PC gamers.
Heh. Layers.
While unfortunately, the lousy toxic complainers will tend to send death threats and want to gun down any developers and employees considering the fact they don't have anything to do with the DMCA legal team or takedowns, The problem is when people blame Nintendo as a whole, They're dragging in its developers and employees.
Despite nintendo's annoying posessive monopoly, the worst part of the company is there inability to let people enjoy their older games, some of which are nearly impossible to find now.
Nintendo does that because there is a remote possibility that Nintendo might someday decide to port that dead, forgotten game to a current gen console. You know it won't happen, I know it won't happen, Nintendo knows it won't happen, but Nintendo won't admit that to anybody.
Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 not being available in the digital store pains my soul
@@Chris_Sizemore Not only that... If you are playing that dead, forgotten game, you are not thinking of purchasing the latest game. That's lost revenue, they'd make that illegal if they could.
That’s the part that really grinds my gears. I’d somewhat excuse Nintendo’s zealous “protection” of their IP if they continued supporting their older games with remastered editions or something, where there was a legit alternative. But they don’t.
There’s a sizable market of fans who WANT to continue appreciating older Nintendo games, but can’t. Because Nintendo. And pretty much any time anything put together by fans starts to get traction, they throw out a cease and desist to shut it down.
The one thankful thing. Aside from the original NES. All of their consoles are pretty easy and inexpensive to clean and maintain. And their storage cartridges are some of the most durable, if properly maintained and stored correctly. I know people seem to like more open space where they live, but most of the tine physical media is the best way to preserve these old games. I'm so thankful the second hand market is as more accessible and available than it has ever been before.
Companies don't like it when we keep old things. Companies like it when our things break or we get bored and we buy new things.
The Bill & Ted inspired Game Genie ad is 90s gold! 😂
i had forgotten all about it
The only way it could be more 90's is if it were actually the year 1995.
Nintendo didn't listen to them though. Be Excellent to each other, and PARTY ON DUDES!
The Smash Bros section is the bit that confuses me the most. Almost every other game company that makes fighting games is fine with their titles appearing at places like EVO, mainly because they recognise that people like to play their fighting games, often so much that they're willing to go to these tournaments. So why does Nintendo seemingly hate the idea of people playing Smash Bros competitively?
How I've thought about the whole thing was, Ultimate has an active, official online scene. That would've been just fine for tournament play. When it comes to using Slippi though, it's an emulator and you can't guarantee everyone ripped the iso from a copy of melee, so possibly, their worry was people making money from a tournament using potentially pirated copies of their game.
I almost want to day, perhaps seeing the game in a competitive scene might make it seem less "casual friendly" which is the intended niche? As a game meant for anyone to fool around it, rather than a competitive focused game? But I think the emulator thing might be a thing, also that they are playing an older game and misrepresenting the current smash bros. (And encourage piracy for people to get the old game instead of the new one)
Nintendo is extremely brand-conscious. They don't like that their fighting game is taken seriously; they want it to be viewed as light-hearted family fun like their other games.
They just seem to have neglected to tell the actual developers that, and instead let them develop a technically detailed and high-precision fighting game.
@@rudorot65Genuinely, who cares? If the logic is that they might profit from pirates versions of the games, why would those people stop at just pirating? If those people were already breaking the law, they'd just have their tournaments anyways, because that's just another even less serious crime.
I believe, hell I'm almost completely certain, that the reason they shut down tournaments and fan games is because they're so greedy and borderline evil that they can't stand the idea of anyone profiting off of their IP, even if that profit is completely legal. A team making a fan game of a Nintendo IP that they don't charge for, is completely legal, but because those teams take donations for their work, Nintendo wants to destroy them. I think it's that simple, they want every penny from every avenue.
Besides what others said, there was also the issue of Project M. You see, Melee fell to the wayside because the Gamecube only has analog outputs and A/D converters cause lag, necessitating tournament hosters to have not just the console, but a CRT TV with analog inputs along. Project M was a mod of Brawl which attempted to emulate Melee mechanics in it and ended up being among the preferred platforms in the competetive scene, due to the Wii having digital outputs (not necessitating the specialized equipment) and because the Project M devs understood how to balance the game. Around 2014, Nintendo decided to scapegoat Project M popularity as the reason why they don't want to interact with the FGC, and people fell for that hollow promise.
Let’s not forget the time Nintendo removed a video about the history of a cancelled legend of Zelda.
Who made the vid? I wanna see if I recognize them
Wait, the movie they were initially partnered with Netflix to make? It's like Konami trying to delete P.T. from people's PS4 hard drives
I looked it up, It seems that it was by DYKG on a cancelled retro studios zelda game
@@lightningninja6905 yeah that was the video that got taken down.
@lightningninja6905 well EXUUUUSE ME, princess
Tbh the karts in Tokyo are popular amongst tourists, but locals have detested them for years. There have been calls for them to be flat out banned because of how dangerous they have been.
Yeah, I remember an Abroad in Japan video about them. It does sound pretty dangerous to have karts outside of a track.
@@SolKaras I live in an area just outside Yokohama, so I nip into Tokyo a lot. Whenever I go to areas like Akihabra you are guaranteed to see a tourist group speeding about in the karts. Japanese folks are reserved, but they tend to laugh at funny things from time to time. Nobody seems to be amused with the karts.
There is an issue with over-tourism right now, and foreigner behaviour is one of the primary focuses of that issue. People treat Japan like a fantasy world with little to no respect for local etiquette. The karts are possibly the most emblematic thing regarding this.
@@nescumzwei Why are they legal? I would think Tokyo would ban them just purely from a safety aspect of interacting with traffic.
Trust me, with how stupid people are getting, especially "prankster" tourists, it might happen pretty soon. I've heard recently that some historical areas were closed off to tourists because of how ungrateful they were.
Irrelevant to why they sued
if only Nintendo put as much effort into their online play as they did into suing people
Nah, Nintendo wants you to play local coop, not online. But don't make it a tournament.
So funny that at 10:30 TH-cam played a advert for Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pass. Perfect.
I'm "I remember those commercials when they were on tv" years old. Thanks for the blast from the past 😂
Remember: anyone could be a Nintendo lawyer in disguise: Friends, family, your significant other(s), coworkers, random passersby, people who work in the shops you frequent... hell, even your neighbor's dog
You forgot about family members.
@@shadow_blaze2317 forgot about that detail. Will edit that in, but could a parent's children be lawyers in disguise if they're in the post-graduate age range?
They could be in THIS very comment section! They could be YOU, they could be ME, they could even be-
@@acidrain6178It was obvious, He's the Red Lawyer
@@acidrain6178come on, it was obvious! See? Lawyer! Oh wait that’s money…
To go with a recent Oxventure: Pokemon 5e. Can't work out if it was Nintendo, but it was pulled due to a takedown request.
The only thing on this list that isn't straight up a dick move is the go-karting thing. Racing go-karts on open roads is going to get someone killed at some point.
Yeah that has been a thing people in Japan tend to complain about for plenty of reasons beyond driving accidents
You saying that's the only thing, tells me you don't know the smash competitive community very well...
Nintendo also banned unofficial controllers which prevents people with disabilities from playing you ableist. @@sdf434-pp8jd
@@sdf434-pp8jd Genuinely just want to know, enlighten me. I have a suspicion of what you’re getting at but… maybe there’s more to it? Guessing it has something to do with some people have a tendency to get pyschoticly aggressive when they lose.
If I remember correctly, there was already an incident where one of the go-karts went off the road and crashed into a storefront. Probably another reason Nintendo doesn't want them having anything to do with their IP.
So, my dad worked in the game rental business when I was a kid. The whole Nintendo-not-wanting-people-to-rent is why I grew up with a Sega Genesis. (Side story: his boss once made him go around the U.S. obtaining copies of Sonic the Hedgehog to distribute to rental stores despite my dad trying to tell him the game came with the console. You can guess how that went long-term. Worked out better with Sonic 2, which came out on my birthday 😂)
Nintendo must have hated that US copyright laws outright permit rental. First Sale doctrine and all that.
@@filanfyretracker they did!
I mean...it didn't ALWAYS come with the console. Originally, the Genesis came with a copy of "Altered Beast".
@@Bluesit32 interesting, I didn't remember that being the case in the U.S.! But also I was like, four 😂
@@candybeans I mean, Genesis was released prior to Sonic coming out.
This is going to be a 50 part series easy.
welcome to my TED TALK
hearing the triple jump music under all of entry 7 was such a mind destroying moment 😅
I’d love a Pun Victim selection graphic in the TripleJump style. We all know who the Pun Master is.
I thought I was hearing songs that Triple Jump uses. I'm guessing it's just TH-cam Studio stock music.
God I love 90s ads for things, they are always insane
7:42 to 8:54 | The DMCA needs an overhaul. Nintendo's based in Japan, which doesn't have an equivalent of the US's Fair Use doctrines and leads to a lot of hardass situations such as the fangame crackdown.
The ironic part of this whole situation is how much Japan has straight up ripped off countless other IP from countries around the world. There's an entire era of guitar manufacturing where Japanese companies straight up ripped off USA company designs, even going as far as creating a new version of their logo that more closely represented the USA company logo. The practice still happens today, they just aren't allowed to legally export them for sale outside Japan anymore, but it doesn't fully stop it from happening.
The company that was contracted to import Fender Guitars to Japan in the 60's and 70's only agreed to do so after a contractual agreement that they were allowed to copy the product for domestic sale within Japan. They were eventually (decades later) brought into the Fender family umbrella as an official product, but still.
NoA is based in the US
Wow, having no friends and money I can host Smash Brothers tournament , too! Nintendo really cares about us
Nintendo will never understand that Gabe Newell has always had it right; "The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." Shutting down all these fan projects just fosters hate when they staunchly refuse to offer any equivalent services - especially in the case of the tournaments and music takedowns.
The real life Mario Kart basically terrorizes the city of Tokyo and its residents
The amount of times I’ve seen those karts almost hit or get run over is astounding.
We also have Drawfee's joke t-shirt "Todd from Mario" 😁
Another Drawfee fan! Apparently a hand drawn lounging opossum with a mushroom hat could very easily be confused with one of the most recognizable video game characters in the world.
@@winter.nevada I did like Julia's pugnacious comment about really wanting to say "what part of this image is Nintendo property?"
Did you notice that Ellen finished this video saying "we're sorry"? Obviously she heard that Drawfee was taking things easier and decided to pick up some of the slack.
@@Patrick-PhelanI said this elsewhere here, but if Todd (from mario) doesn't fall under parody, the law isn't just broken, it's nonsensical
I will never understand why Nintendo are so lawsuit heavy. Like yeah I understand that companies have control over their own IPs and they have every right to do what they want with them for better or worse etc, but why does it feel like Nintendo is more... Draconic when it comes to this stuff?
Disney does the same thing. It isn’t just about protecting profits. Third party content can cause damage to the public’s view of an IP. Not only that, but if they DON’T rigorously defend their copyright they could potentially lose their copyright. Which would be a BIG deal. If Nintendo lost the rights to Mario and Zelda it could actually be ruinous for the company. So there are actually good reasons for their actions. It isn’t just being a dystopian mega corp.
I feel like they could handle these things better though.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing oh. Fair enoghu I guess. Still like you said it can be handled way better.
Moon Channel has a great video on why they're so overprotective of their IPs.
@@עומרשרייבר-ל4ר indeed. Like the Mario Kart company in Tokyo. They could have easily said “if you want to keep doing this you have to pay us $XXX dollars every year for the right to use our IPs.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing No. Just no. Everybody knows Mario and Zelda are owned by Nintendo. There is no danger of them losing the copyrights. N is just a corporate bully, like Disney.
I love your videos that are more critical of video games/video game companies/practices in the industry; it feels like everyday the industry gets worse and worse, and I think it’s cool you guys are using your platform to shine a light on it, especially through this approachable, digestible format that anyone can enjoy
Thank you for all you do!
"Please take down this video, it paints us in a bad light that we probably weren't in before. And also, don't use our music or we will destroy you."
Nope, this is way too reasonable for Nintendo. They would have started with a 2 trillion dollar fine and ninja assassins sent at the entire channel.
@@sapphireweapon12345 Oh we already sent those, just trying to distract the enemy.
@captainpikle7444 Wait... are you my long-lost uncle that works at Nintendo?
All the other kids at the playground never believed me when I told them about you!
To expand on the Pokémon entry; they also made that statement a few years back that ‘nuzelocks’ and other self-imposed challenges were improper ways to play the games and would be perceived in a similar way to the rom hacks.
That's messed up! Let people make their own fun of it's not messing with the code!😮
No. They decide how you play. So the next Mario game won't come with online coop, because it was made with couch coop in mind. (Literaly the reason, why 3d World on WiiU didn't have online)
Hmm, i see speedrunning being attacked here as well
Ohhhhhhh, I can think of a real big one for the commenter's edition: when the absolute scumbags sued Gary Bowser. The man got 40 months in prison, owes them 14.5 mil AND between 10-15% of any annual salary he gets for basically the remainder of his life. They not only sent a man to jail for emulating some games but have essentially guaranteed that the remainder of his life will be significantly harder. That is cyberpunk corporation level shit: utilising corporate law loopholes in order to guarantee what is practically a life sentence when a "true" life sentence wasn't legally a possibility.
Ah, but why would they allow emulated versions of their games when they can charge you $70 for a 10 year old game? I hate Nintendo's business practices and how they treat their fans. I fully understand stopping people profiting from their IP'S but most of what they do just harms the fans.
@@Zoso14892 I understand protecting IP as well but going as far as possible to destroy a human beings life is perhaps where I draw the line...I might draw the line a scooch before then actually...but only a scooch and no more than a scooch
@@Zoso14892This is why I stopped buying Nintendo games a few years ago. I really don't understand how anyone stomachs their behavior. The crusade they had against fan gatherings and fan made content a few years back was the final nail in the coffin for me. First party Nintendo games, in my opinion, aren't even that good, and especially aren't good enough to excuse their behavior.
@@NottherealLucifer it's legitimately insane. The entire reason I initially considered emulating Switch games was because the hardware and games NEVER reduce in price then their consistent demonic behaviour made me go "Know what? Fuck even emulating your stuff at this point."
@basicjenkins it's a horrific reaction to the apparent crime. Considering a cease and desist would more or less achieve the same thing as far as they are concerned. I only mean that I can understand them stopping the real-life Mario Kart and things of that nature!
We'd be here all day if this video contained every time that Nintendo lawyers ruined everything.
all week, tbh
You know Gabe Newel saying pirating thrives whan it's more convenient than the legal alternative ?
Nintendo's legal team policy is the opposite : make it super inconvenient to enjoy their stuff so pirating is unavoidable, so they're essential to counter it. No layoffs there !
I wonder which of this items was discussed as "It's too good to be left out, we'll make it a top 8"
The Game Genie one?
*Nintendo's lawyers currently viewing this video*
“What a cheap shot! George!”
“I’m sueing, im sueing”
Yes. Yes they are.
Imagine if Nintendo had just hired the creatives instead of going all Phoenix Wright every single time. 😄
Phoenix wright? Nah man they go the Von karma route.
Don't compare nintendo to mr Wright he brings the innocent to justice think of manfred von karma instead
Phoenix would never
But hiring people means money they have to spend on them.
Why give people money when you can earn more through a lawsuit.
Nintendo is literally Von Karma with the taser out.
IIRC, they did that with Pokemon Prism. And that still lives on anyway.
At least Capcom allows people to upload their models to GMOD
Capcom's villain arc is mostly focused around Denuvo DRM.
Dmca against mods wasn't nice.
@@FhargaZ and the incest controversy, really makes you question a few things in their games.
@@LeonS.kennedyswife Wait, there was an incest controversy? Explain.
@@sacrificiallamb4568 yeah, an entire resident evil toy line got cancelled because it apparently insinuated incest
I follow a lot of musicians who makes covers of video game music on youtube, and relatively recently any of them who had created sheet music themselves for music from Nintendo games had to stop offering people the sheet music or risk being in Nintendo's crosshairs. This is one of the ways musicians are able to make money, so it really screwed over anyone who had a mainly Nintendo catalogue of sheet music (which again - they created themselves by ear)
I love music and I love people making video game covers, but come on, you really shouldn't be relying on making money through other peoples' music. Even if they wrote the sheet music themselves by ear, that's still someone else's tunes they're transcribing.
I feel like people need to be reminded every month that Nintendo does as much shady stuff as the rest of the gaming space.
Nintendo: Or why we need copyright reform.
And Disney
I remember looking up copyright reform, found a Quora discussion, and…oh boy. I was honestly shocked by how many people in that chat actually SUPPORTED Nintendo. A few actually wanted to add more teeth to copyright law.
RIP Pokemon Omega, it got the ol' C&D when OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire released. 😔
I would not be surprised if Nintendo put a hit out on someone at this point
Agent 47 is currently too busy working for Boeing
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Fair enough
especially now that there's precedent for a games company sending Pinkertons after people, when Hasbro sent the literal Pinkertons after someone.
@@PanEtRosa hasbro did what?
@@goldenfiberwheat238 - Oh I remember this one! It happened last year after Wizards of the Coast accidentally sent a youtuber some special cards that wasn't meant to be released publically that were unintentionally leaked during an unboxing, so their parent company (Hasbro) sent the pinkertons to his home to retrieve those cards and caused some emotional distress to the youtuber's wife with threats of severe penalties for not handing the stuff over. Y'know, the same pinkertons that are responsible for why america's police force turned out the way it did because of their union-busting nastiness even if they're no longer as powerful or influential as they used to be after the anti-pinkerton act of 1893
WOTC fans (and by extension fans of anything owned by Hasbro) were _not happy_ when the news went public
Lucky for me, I was able to see Mari cart in full action when I was in Tokyo, seeing a Peach, Yoshi and Wario driving through the streets was hilarious on my way back from the Pokemon Centre
I played Tengen's Tetris and absolutely loved the dancers as well as playing 2 player mode with my brother. It was truly better
Agreed. I was out of work for over a year when my Mom was injured and needed me to help around the house. We rented Tengen’s version of Tetris for like a week straight and then went grocery shopping. It’s amazing how much stuff you can put in a buggy when you’ve been playing Tetris for a week lol😅
yeah i grew up with the tengen version. only version i knew until i was almost an adult. think i still have an old 8bit cartridge with it on somewhere
Nintendo currently: We're here to make everyone happy!
everyone: *Calling Nintendo out on their crappy business tactics, their overly strict policies for various stuff, and the petty things they've done to others*
Nintendo in the future: Why does everyone hate us!? WE'RE LEGALLY CORRECT!
Yeah nintendo, you objectively ruined my fun with the TTYD remake
Props for using capture from Relic Castle (the game area) in the entry about Relic Castle (the website)
I love that the Game Genie section specifically references Battletoads - as using the Game Genie for extra lives with Battletoads actually made every 3rd level unbeatable because a platform would go missing so even using the Game Genie didn't enable you to beat Battletoads.
Am I the only one that didn't think Battletoads was that hard? You had to get the right timing for that one section (anticipating jumping twice quickly) but otherwise it's not like its a Souls game or something.
That Game Genie advert was so 90's i thought i was a kid again!
The many ROMs that Nintendo squashed are incredibly distressing since a lot of older games are not maintained very well.
I didn't expect to laugh so hard on the audio-platforms joke
You forgot to mention the C64 game "Great Giana Sisters".
They got pulled off store shelves because Nintendo said the platforming and characters looked too similar to the Mario Bros.
Technically didn't actually involve any legal action.
And given the INSANE amount of C64 games that came out based on just about anything under the sun, that's saying something.
Ahh, I miss renting games from Blockbuster. Those are some fond childhood memories.
90's commercials hit so different.
The "Bill and Ted" inspired Game Genie commercial was the most 90s thing I've ever witnessed.
Oh so that's why Smash Bro's not in EVO anymore. I was wondering why it stopped being in the line up for EVO. That sux.
Nintendo ruins fun so much that they got you guys to make a list of more than 7 items.
Oh, so THAT'S why rental games always had those weird instruction booklets! Honestly though I hadn't thought about that sort of thing for 30 years, but there's an answer, at least.
Any Drawfee fans here that remember the cease and desist they got from Ninendo for Todd (from Mario) ?
😂
Rest in peace our favourite lounging fellow, Todd (from Mario)
Yeah, they really didn't need to do Todd (from Mario) dirty like that.
I'm looking at Todd (from mario) and like... I don't know anything about the law, but I morally I feel like this should fall under obvious parody? It barely resembles toad and I find it pretty unbelieveable that someone reasonable would be confused.
@lightningninja6905 Unfortunately, it can take a lot of time and effort to fight stuff like Nintendo claiming an obvious parody.
theres another one nintendo did, they took down the fan made game "100 mario royale" which was some of the craziest and fun mario gameplay, 100 players, first levels, speed run to the end, it was pure chaos and i loved it, shame nintendo took it down then pushed out their half baked version 36 mario game which had a LIMITED shelf life by design so you cant play it after a specific date
Boy... without revealing too much about my age, it really was cool being able to rent games at Blockbuster as a kid. The whole process of going once a week after dinner out with my family, making the selection, gaming and watching our movies together... good times.
I always wanted to play Hyrule Total War, a Rome Total War mod. Not sure if nintendo stopped it, but I don't think it ever released.
7:53 with the words of pokemon radical red maker soupercell "if you paid for this in any way you got scammed lmao"
On one end I get why they do this, it's IP protection and avoiding the chances that anyone makes money off their creations. But on the other hand, they LITERALLY will not offer an alternative to certain things. Like older games just ceasing to exist and them doing next to nothing to keep them from being forgotten. The only time they'll remember an old game is if you remember it first and tried to bring it back.
If Nintendo made dark souls they'd have a boss named "Ceaseless desist charge"
Lol, and yet when I point this out elsewhere, I get called out! This is a big reason as to why I stopped buying from Nintendo almost entirely!
Completely off-topic but kudos to Outside Xtra. I thought my phone was ringing during the first segment - but no, you just used the Half Life Closing theme as the background music, the same version I had set as a ringtone for the past 20 years. 👍🏼
Game genie is the only way I could actually play through games as a kid.
People: *Have fun with Mario unofficially*
Nintendo: “No fun allowed!!”
I was half expecting an entry for "Nintendo sues Nintendo"
Person makes a great, high-quality and beloved fangame.
Nintendo: DMCA and pay us you fucks.
Sega: Come work for us!
Palworld: (Gives Nintendo the middle finger.)
Indie's a future i want
Nothing is more scary than '8' than a '7' in the title
I saw those go-karts in Akihabara before they had to change it. Seeing Luigi suddenly drive past me was pretty surreal. 😂
To be fair on the Tetris thing, Elorg didn't sell the rights to console rights for Tetris to MirrorSoft. They sold the rights for IBM and "other kinds of computers", and MirrorSoft tried to use that wording to make consoles count. Elorg was pissed after finding out about the console versions of the game and when MirrorSoft was late on a payment, they included a backdated addition to the contract that defined a computer in a way that excluded modern game consoles.
A somewhat entertaining, slightly boring movie was even made about it in 2023.
May I just say....thank you for playing those insane 90's commercials in their entirety. That was a horrifying gift.
The concept of emulators: exists
Nintendo: Hyper angry
Noooo you can’t pirate our games!
Haha Emulator go Beep Boop~
What makes it amusing is that other game consoles don't have this problem by simply being too difficult to emulate. The answer to your problems is right there Nintendo.
Tbf, they can’t touch emulators. Those are entirely legal. What they can touch is roms, since distributing roms is entirely illegal, so they are within their rights there.
@@tagon2381 If only there was a legal way to ROM, at least for personal use.
@@justin2308 there is. If you back up your own cartridges or discs or something, that is legally your rom. If you distribute it, it’s piracy, but you can have back-ups
The Game Genie ad montage is some cynical fun. You can see the pop-culture moment when Sega was like, _Sure yeah, credit us when you show Sonic in the commercial, and don't forget to tell the kids which company_ *doesn't* _plan to ban their Christmas list_
You know it's serious when there's 8 entries instead of 7!
Another one I can think of is Pixelmon. A mod that added pokemon mechanics to Minecraft. Of course, after it got DMCA'd, a bunch of players picked up the project and suddenly there were multiple Pixelmon versions out, and now Cobblemon also exists, so it sort of backfired
Missing Luke and the Miyamoto phone call joke that would have been in this if he was here.
Heck with “the legal equivalent of a red shell.”
That is a Blue shell if I ever heard.
You joke about the DMCA you'd get for this video, but remember that Did you know gaming got one for talking about canceled games from over 20 years ago.
I love how the Game Genie advert takes inspiration from Wayne’s World
There is one Pokemon fan game that I regret not getting while I had the chance: Pokemon Uranium. Something about a post-apocalyptic Pokemon and a new Nuclear type really had me interested.
Didn't it also get taken down for references to Fallout?
I remember a gloriously fraught couple of days when Nintendo declared that they were gonna start DMCA-ing TH-cam videos featuring any of their gameplay. Even a straight-up, no-frills Let's Play or a stream VOD wouldn't be safe.
That might've been one of the few instances of Nintendo backing down in the face of overwhelming customer outcry. Well, a combination of outcry and realising that fewer people would buy their games if they never got to see them in action first.
wasn't drawfee's "todd from mario" taken down at one point
More on the smash topic, special shoutout to Project M. PM unlocked so much more potential smash brawl ever did. To this day my friends and I play PM on my Wii.
As someone who grew up on Nintendo... I fucking HATE Nintendo now.
TH-cam art channel Drawfee got a weird copyright from Nintendo over a drawing of a possum in a diaper that said “Todd from Mario”. Even though there’s weirder things out there.
Also, one of the artists from Drawfee made the game “You Awaken in a Strange Place” which was played on Oxventure.
Thank you for playing the full "Game Genie" commercial! I miss when ads were at least fun if they were going to be obnoxious
That’s probably the nostalgia talking
that ad made me want to throw my monitor out the window tf you talking about
The foreshadowing with Battletoads' theme during the Game Genie segment is 💯
How about how Nintendo bulldogged Citra from emulating 3DS? You know the system where they pulled the plug on the online store making local flashes the only source for some really good games? Almost certainly because Citra developers also did emulators for Switch (bad move on a live system), a lot of 3DS games may get lost soon. For me, Steam is now the only place I'll buy electronic copies of games, as at least they don't disappear if I upgrade my computer. At least not yet :/
Yuzu's devs gatekeeped some of Yuzu's features with money, so...
Good Old Games is another great repository and retail outlet for video games that won't screw you over.
Best trailer for Super Andy-o Bros ever! I'm fully on the hype train!!