So I hate to always be the "Debbie Downer" when these discussions come up, but, based on our current level of technological capabilities - the FASTEST object we've ever sent out from our planet is the Parker Solar Probe (and I'm hesitant to even factor it in, because it's been traveling INTO the gravity well of our star since it left Earth, which greatly assists the craft with acceleration and top speed, and, going AWAY from our star towards Alpha Centauri is going to require a LOT more power/fuel to achieve anywhere near the same velocities...). But just for a thought experiment, that's the speed estimate I'll use. We managed to record speeds of 430,000 mph during it's fastest approach to the Sun. So just to show that I'm not biasing my maths purposely to make it tougher for us - I'll actually overestimate the speed by rounding up to a cool half-million (500,000) mph. Now for the distance: Alpha Centauri is roughly 4LY from our solar system. One light year is equal to approximately 5.879 TRILLION miles - so let's go ahead and round it down to 5.7 TRILLION. Okay so the that puts us traveling 22.8 Trillion miles. Now, in reality we couldn't travel at that speed the entire time, we would have to allow time for acceleration and deceleration - but let's ignore that to make the hypothetical trip quicker. Even with all of these odds stacked in our favor - it'd take us somewhere around 5,205 years to reach the system. IF there's even a habitable rock there for us. It's a really nice goal, and expanding outward is really our best defense against extinction, but ... We just aren't close to being ready to embark on a project like that and I'm not entirely sure that we ever will be.....
Why do we always have the technology but not bother using it ? A solar traveling %10 sail sent to alpha centaury 30 -40 years ago would have made it there by now ! The $$ spent on senseless wars -crime and security could have paid for this ! And all other sci-fi projects !
Technological capabilities? But nuclear pulse propulsion was tested as best could be before international treaties banned it, it's practically good to go if we first set up some fissile material mines on Luna.
What about, let us go to the Moon first and live for three months in inflatable modules inside of lunar lava tubes to avoid space radiation, and then think about the next steps in space exploration?
This 💯. Then, we use what we learned from that to get to Mars. By the time we get there, we'd be able to seriously start looking at one of Jupiter's moons or Saturn's moons.
@@w0nd3r6 At that high partial light speed, one's Spaceship's forward moment would overwhelm any attempt to change course to avoid an object, without slowing down, and slowing down would bend the flight path to falling to the nearest strong attracter, like a Sun.
So a few thousand years from now somebody living at Alpha Centauri will be sitting on their sofa, eating popcorn and watching an episode of Ancient Aliens... and it will be about us?
When talking about space travel they always forget that time slows down the faster you go - stopping completely when you reach the speed of light. This has been measured and proven. So we can travel great distances if we invent space craft that can go fast enough. A craft traveling at 90% of the speed of light might take take fifteen years to get to its destination from our perspective here on Earth but only six months ( or whatever ) for those on board. So space travel will be rather odd. No popping back in six months like in Startrek - but crews turning up years later - but only looking slightly older than when they left. Although the trip will have taken fifteen Earth years the crew will only have consumed six months worth of food and the space craft six months of `wear & tear `. Space travel is going to get REALLY WEIRD !!!!!!!
There are occupants in Alpha or Proxima Centauri B. Infact 4-7 Aliens in Proxima Centauri had visited Earth way back in 1962-67 and met Sps Betty Barney Hill from New Hampshire USA. Proxima is 4.2 Light Year from the Sun.
It would be awesome, but I fear will never came true because: Explanation on other videos of this channel. Is still a fantasy to think we will ever reach another star and even if we would do, the scenario with two civilizations not knowing about each other feels more real than the happier one where the two will still be the same civilization, but with more influence on Milky Way.
We need to start asembling the spacecrafts in space. We need practice.This kind of spaceships need to be big. For start we probably need to build space station-factory for producing space ships.
I would really like to see a video on the potential gravitational effects of this multiple star system and is it even worth considering sending ships or settlers there in the first place.
The way i view things these days is that we will never have the technology to reach these places in a reasonable amount of time. we will always be stuck in our solar system. I think the problem of light speed travel is unsolvable, definitely for us and even any aliens out there are probably stuck in there neck of the woods as well
It would take 30 years earth time to travel to Alpha Centauri, but for the traveler who is traveling 10% the speed of light, it would take a lot less time. Time slows the faster you travel.
After the Cylons attack the 11 colonies around the Alpha Centurion system planets (including Caprica) the denizens of the Alpha Centurion tri-stellar system will send a lone BATTLESTAR out to try and find...EARTH!
Let's just say that we can get to Alpha Centauri in 30 years. That means the Astronauts that are chosen can't be any older than 25 years old. Then there is the problem of having 30 years of food and water. If we can't get to A.C in 10 years or less, we shouldn't even consider traveling there.
Nothing like this is going to happen any time in the foreseeable future if even at all. I'm convinced we'll never leave the immediate bounds of our solar system. I don't think we'll even set foot on Mars any time soon either.
Build out a lot of rotating space habitats in this solar system, encourage differentiated technological development, such that at least 1% of the rotating space habitat colonies are outputting something of interest to the interstellar enterprise, indefinite life extension, hardcore steady-state economies, and much more, all this stuff will have to be rolled out before we can go to other star systems, best get on with it.
By solving the energy problem, everything will be possible in the futur. The actual technology does not even allow to send humans to mars because it's a heavy energy cosuming mission
But the same question arises assuming there is life on Alpha Centauri... If the universe is populated with intelligent beings, why haven't we met them yet. Why are we always looking for them... or are they looking for us? The same conditions for intelligent life to exist must occur at various "sweet spot" locations around the universe. Many may have had the added advantage of a few years more evolutionary time in which to develop to a modern if not even more advanced technological basis. If its taken us 4.5 billion years to get to where we are with regard to our current level of evolutionary development, can we assume that other civilisations out there may have had considerable longer to get to where they are. It has taken us 70 years from Sputnik to plans to visit Mars within the next 100 years. What if we had had an extra 100,000, 500,000 or even 50million year head start,. Surely we would be close to conquering light speed. If that is so, where are the visitors from within the universe that have had the benefit of a head start of a few million years evolutionary development. They haven't been round our neck of the woods and paid us a visit yet.....
The idea of intelligent life elsewhere is fascinating, and many scientists wonder the same thing. Some theories suggest that the vast distances and timescales involved in traveling between stars might be a major hurdle, even for advanced civilizations. Additionally, they might not have the technology to travel at or near light speed. Another possibility is that they might not be looking for us, or we might not recognize their signals. Furthermore, other civilizations might have different goals or interests that don't include contacting us. In short, the universe is big and complex, and there could be many reasons we haven't met anyone yet. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@newsmonger77 so you say even though humans have been on the planet for at least 250 years, we will probably be on the planet for at least another 250 thousand more years.
Or go extinct. Just for the last century civilisation was very close to extinction at least 3 times. For another 300 centuries it will happen certainly.
If traveling to another start is a 1 way trip, once you leave Earth, for all practical reasoning you'd be considered dead to earth and it solar system. Could someone then make the claim you are dead to collect insurance money? Either way dead or not your never returning to earth. How many insurance companies would go out of business...? Or is there a stipulation in the insurance contract you need to die on earth?
We cant form a civilization on Alpha Centauri (or any other exoplanet). Even at 20% of light speed, the amount of resources it would take to have any meaningful outpost is untenable - let alone civilize the planet. We are designed for Earth and there's no better place suitable for HUMANS to live. Next question
You know, this channel is so unbelievably ridiculous. You make these broad sweeping generalizations about what the future might be like and how technology might advance or stagnate. First, you put out videos that we will never colonize Alpha Centuri or live in space and now you’re putting out an equally ridiculous one about how future humans will. Your agenda as far as I can tell is simply to get people to click and watch your videos. And you have no problems, throwing out completely contradictory videos. Completely absurd. I won’t be back.
So many declarations in this video and most of them sound false. Like generation ships is how we will do it. That the people on Alpha Centauri will forget about us when we might have colonized a 1000 systems and Alpha Centauri will be the closest one to home. That in 30000 years if we don't do it then we're screwed. Really? I would hope we could do it a lot sooner.
hey wait a minute, what if we came to earth the same way?!, distant ancestors that sent us here as their Plan B!, you know that quote that goes like either we're alone in the universe or we're not, and both are equally terrifying?, I think what is even more terrifying than these is if we're not alone and the other extraterrestrial life forms are actually humans!, especially if they were far less advanced than having the capability of interstellar travel, someone better tell me how the f*ck they got there if we ever found them💀
It's kind of pathetic to think that in 30,000 years we wouldn't have spacecraft that could fly MUCH faster then 10% of the speed of light. Nuclear propulsion is already being worked on now and is being tested in just a few years. So to think that no further advancements beyond that would be made in such a long time is very hard to believe.
and to always have „acceleration-gravity“, you need gargantuan amounts of fuel, problem is that the force of acceleration will vary, due to varying amount of fuel-mass..
Because eventually all civilization on earth will be doomed. The earlier we start to explore the universe and find other habitable planets the better 👍
Disagree with the end. Once space travel is possible, how humans got to other planets will be part of their history lessons at school, so they will always know they came from a planet called Earth 🌍!
Maybe we should go to the moon before we think about alpha centauri. It's questionable of whether we can actually send humans to Mars or not. These are limescales that only mother nature can comprehend. We don't even know if climate change will do us in.
What a nonsense video!! What about developing technologies that increases velocity of space ships along the 30000+ years ahead? Did we forget the history of ancient human civilizations? Why should we forget about our history in the future even if we are light years away from each other?
So I hate to always be the "Debbie Downer" when these discussions come up, but, based on our current level of technological capabilities - the FASTEST object we've ever sent out from our planet is the Parker Solar Probe (and I'm hesitant to even factor it in, because it's been traveling INTO the gravity well of our star since it left Earth, which greatly assists the craft with acceleration and top speed, and, going AWAY from our star towards Alpha Centauri is going to require a LOT more power/fuel to achieve anywhere near the same velocities...). But just for a thought experiment, that's the speed estimate I'll use.
We managed to record speeds of 430,000 mph during it's fastest approach to the Sun. So just to show that I'm not biasing my maths purposely to make it tougher for us - I'll actually overestimate the speed by rounding up to a cool half-million (500,000) mph.
Now for the distance: Alpha Centauri is roughly 4LY from our solar system. One light year is equal to approximately 5.879 TRILLION miles - so let's go ahead and round it down to 5.7 TRILLION. Okay so the that puts us traveling 22.8 Trillion miles. Now, in reality we couldn't travel at that speed the entire time, we would have to allow time for acceleration and deceleration - but let's ignore that to make the hypothetical trip quicker.
Even with all of these odds stacked in our favor - it'd take us somewhere around 5,205 years to reach the system. IF there's even a habitable rock there for us.
It's a really nice goal, and expanding outward is really our best defense against extinction, but ... We just aren't close to being ready to embark on a project like that and I'm not entirely sure that we ever will be.....
I like these kind of posts.
Nice one.👍
how about sharing a text-adventure, played with chatGPT about it?
Why do we always have the technology but not bother using it ? A solar traveling %10 sail sent to alpha centaury 30 -40 years ago would have made it there by now ! The $$ spent on senseless wars -crime and security could have paid for this ! And all other sci-fi projects !
Technological capabilities? But nuclear pulse propulsion was tested as best could be before international treaties banned it, it's practically good to go if we first set up some fissile material mines on Luna.
What about, let us go to the Moon first and live for three months in inflatable modules inside of lunar lava tubes to avoid space radiation, and then think about the next steps in space exploration?
This 💯. Then, we use what we learned from that to get to Mars. By the time we get there, we'd be able to seriously start looking at one of Jupiter's moons or Saturn's moons.
I say let's build a city size permanent settlement on our sea floor or even on Antarctica first.
I'm ready. Let's go. Hope we can avoid objects, like asteroids, at such high speeds.
Well to be fair things in space are so far from each other that it shouldn't be hard to avoid them.
@@w0nd3r6 At that high partial light speed, one's Spaceship's forward moment would overwhelm any attempt to change course to avoid an object, without slowing down, and slowing down would bend the flight path to falling to the nearest strong attracter, like a Sun.
So a few thousand years from now somebody living at Alpha Centauri will be sitting on their sofa, eating popcorn and watching an episode of Ancient Aliens... and it will be about us?
haha maybe, or maybe we are the descendants of people that came from distant stars systems watching ancient aliens about us😄
😅😅😅
في المستقبل البعيد وبفضل التكنولوجيا المتقدمة سوف يتساوى الخيال مع الواقع ويمتلك الإنسان قوى الآلهة ليحول الكون والأكوان المتعددة إلى جنة خالدة ❤
Develop indefinite life extension and build gardener ships. Build city-scale interstellar arkships.
When talking about space travel they always forget that time slows down the faster you go - stopping completely when you reach the speed of light. This has been measured and proven. So we can travel great distances if we invent space craft that can go fast enough. A craft traveling at 90% of the speed of light might take take fifteen years to get to its destination from our perspective here on Earth but only six months ( or whatever ) for those on board. So space travel will be rather odd. No popping back in six months like in Startrek - but crews turning up years later - but only looking slightly older than when they left. Although the trip will have taken fifteen Earth years the crew will only have consumed six months worth of food and the space craft six months of `wear & tear `. Space travel is going to get REALLY WEIRD !!!!!!!
Great video, as always! 👏👏👏
There are occupants in Alpha or Proxima Centauri B. Infact 4-7 Aliens in Proxima Centauri had visited Earth way back in 1962-67 and met Sps Betty Barney Hill from New Hampshire USA. Proxima is 4.2 Light Year from the Sun.
In 30,000 years we will have ships fast enough to travel to that solar system in a few hours
It’s more likely that in thirty thousand years we’ll be extinct.
It would be awesome, but I fear will never came true because: Explanation on other videos of this channel.
Is still a fantasy to think we will ever reach another star and even if we would do, the scenario with two civilizations not knowing about each other feels more real than the happier one where the two will still be the same civilization, but with more influence on Milky Way.
We need to start asembling the spacecrafts in space. We need practice.This kind of spaceships need to be big. For start we probably need to build space station-factory for producing space ships.
I would really like to see a video on the potential gravitational effects of this multiple star system and is it even worth considering sending ships or settlers there in the first place.
I’d get onboard a spaceship to Alpha Centauri today.
The way i view things these days is that we will never have the technology to reach these places in a reasonable amount of time. we will always be stuck in our solar system. I think the problem of light speed travel is unsolvable, definitely for us and even any aliens out there are probably stuck in there neck of the woods as well
It would take 30 years earth time to travel to Alpha Centauri, but for the traveler who is traveling 10% the speed of light, it would take a lot less time. Time slows the faster you travel.
After the Cylons attack the 11 colonies around the Alpha Centurion system planets (including Caprica) the denizens of the Alpha Centurion tri-stellar system will send a lone BATTLESTAR out to try and find...EARTH!
MAYBE PROXIMA CENTAURI TRI-STAR SYSTEM HAS THEIR OWN HUMANS too BUT WE DON'T KNEW HOW IT LOOKS LIKE.... EVEN THOSE NEWLY DISCOVERED 6-STAR SYSTEM
Have the Voyager probes travelled 1 light day yet? In 45 odd years?
Still a heck of jaunt to Alpha Century whether it's 4 light years or 3!!
Great video and amazing information !
Let's just say that we can get to Alpha Centauri in 30 years. That means the Astronauts that are chosen can't be any older than 25 years old. Then there is the problem of having 30 years of food and water. If we can't get to A.C in 10 years or less, we shouldn't even consider traveling there.
Not to mention the miracles for your health from 30 years of radiation and weightlessness...
Nothing like this is going to happen any time in the foreseeable future if even at all. I'm convinced we'll never leave the immediate bounds of our solar system. I don't think we'll even set foot on Mars any time soon either.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Build out a lot of rotating space habitats in this solar system, encourage differentiated technological development, such that at least 1% of the rotating space habitat colonies are outputting something of interest to the interstellar enterprise, indefinite life extension, hardcore steady-state economies, and much more, all this stuff will have to be rolled out before we can go to other star systems, best get on with it.
By solving the energy problem, everything will be possible in the futur. The actual technology does not even allow to send humans to mars because it's a heavy energy cosuming mission
I just love you damn pipe dreamers. This ain't ever going to happen and we're never going to get to Mars by the end of 10 generations
But the same question arises assuming there is life on Alpha Centauri... If the universe is populated with intelligent beings, why haven't we met them yet. Why are we always looking for them... or are they looking for us? The same conditions for intelligent life to exist must occur at various "sweet spot" locations around the universe. Many may have had the added advantage of a few years more evolutionary time in which to develop to a modern if not even more advanced technological basis. If its taken us 4.5 billion years to get to where we are with regard to our current level of evolutionary development, can we assume that other civilisations out there may have had considerable longer to get to where they are. It has taken us 70 years from Sputnik to plans to visit Mars within the next 100 years. What if we had had an extra 100,000, 500,000 or even 50million year head start,. Surely we would be close to conquering light speed. If that is so, where are the visitors from within the universe that have had the benefit of a head start of a few million years evolutionary development. They haven't been round our neck of the woods and paid us a visit yet.....
The idea of intelligent life elsewhere is fascinating, and many scientists wonder the same thing. Some theories suggest that the vast distances and timescales involved in traveling between stars might be a major hurdle, even for advanced civilizations. Additionally, they might not have the technology to travel at or near light speed. Another possibility is that they might not be looking for us, or we might not recognize their signals. Furthermore, other civilizations might have different goals or interests that don't include contacting us. In short, the universe is big and complex, and there could be many reasons we haven't met anyone yet. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Better find a StarGate
NEVER HAPPEN..we wont even be on this ball long enough to overcome space travel..we'll all be toast
Let's hope mankind doesn't destroy itself in 100 years. Our innate human nature is what prevents us from colonizing space.
Yeah. I would sign up for a trip to Alpha Centauri.
I'm only 71 years old.
It's seems awfully optimistic to think that we'll still be around in 30,000 years!😄
Maybe not around this sun _👀_
Before the year 32000 humans will have developed the warp drive to make that journey in a month.
😂😂😂
@@newsmonger77 The electronic age is less than a century old, imagine 29900 more years of development? Become a visionary my friend.
@@rogermartinez78 Humans will be long gone before then!
@@newsmonger77 so you say even though humans have been on the planet for at least 250 years, we will probably be on the planet for at least another 250 thousand more years.
Or go extinct. Just for the last century civilisation was very close to extinction at least 3 times. For another 300 centuries it will happen certainly.
What if we came thousands of years ago from another solar system 🤔
We're going Nowhere if humanity failed to invent faster than light travel..
Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks for watching!
If traveling to another start is a 1 way trip, once you leave Earth, for all practical reasoning you'd be considered dead to earth and it solar system. Could someone then make the claim you are dead to collect insurance money? Either way dead or not your never returning to earth.
How many insurance companies would go out of business...?
Or is there a stipulation in the insurance contract you need to die on earth?
We cant form a civilization on Alpha Centauri (or any other exoplanet). Even at 20% of light speed, the amount of resources it would take to have any meaningful outpost is untenable - let alone civilize the planet. We are designed for Earth and there's no better place suitable for HUMANS to live. Next question
@@christianporter3638 we are destined to leave Earth.
There's plenty of metal & Uranium on Mars.
Maybe the adventure calls for it.
You know, this channel is so unbelievably ridiculous. You make these broad sweeping generalizations about what the future might be like and how technology might advance or stagnate.
First, you put out videos that we will never colonize Alpha Centuri or live in space and now you’re putting out an equally ridiculous one about how future humans will.
Your agenda as far as I can tell is simply to get people to click and watch your videos. And you have no problems, throwing out completely contradictory videos.
Completely absurd. I won’t be back.
It's like the serie foundation
Imagine how in 1000 years we went from using horse to landing on the moon 🤗
Move cautiously. The sun T people are there 😂. P.s. 3 body problem movie 🍿🎥
If we can develop generational ships we’ll have no need to find habitable planets or do any terraforming. We can just stay on the ship forever.
With today's latest technology it would only take us 300,000 years to get there. So keep dreaming!
We use a Star Cruiser.
far in the future when sun begins to die.
So many declarations in this video and most of them sound false. Like generation ships is how we will do it. That the people on Alpha Centauri will forget about us when we might have colonized a 1000 systems and Alpha Centauri will be the closest one to home. That in 30000 years if we don't do it then we're screwed. Really? I would hope we could do it a lot sooner.
I now have the urge to play Mass Effect: Andromeda 😅
hey wait a minute, what if we came to earth the same way?!, distant ancestors that sent us here as their Plan B!, you know that quote that goes like either we're alone in the universe or we're not, and both are equally terrifying?, I think what is even more terrifying than these is if we're not alone and the other extraterrestrial life forms are actually humans!, especially if they were far less advanced than having the capability of interstellar travel, someone better tell me how the f*ck they got there if we ever found them💀
The only problem is aging
You could go at 30 mile an hour and get there eventually
Since Alpha Centauri would 3.5 light years from Earth in 30,000 years!! How close would that Porxma Centauri in 30,000 years?
The three stars are locked in gravitational orbits, so they will travel the cosmos together.
Hey NASA Space X and others build the ship Send to Alpha Centauri and Examine the Area get information
What happened to the soothing AI chatbot?
It's kind of pathetic to think that in 30,000 years we wouldn't have spacecraft that could fly MUCH faster then 10% of the speed of light. Nuclear propulsion is already being worked on now and is being tested in just a few years. So to think that no further advancements beyond that would be made in such a long time is very hard to believe.
yeah, especially since a fusion-powered starship ought to reach at least 20% light speed
but the main problem lies in the acceleration-induced gravity.. and during cruise-mode you have no „acceleration-gravity“
and to always have „acceleration-gravity“, you need gargantuan amounts of fuel, problem is that the force of acceleration will vary, due to varying amount of fuel-mass..
..it‘s a really tough problem for our future engineers
..maybe AGI can solve it.
How about worrying about continuing a civilization on Earth instead of a star group that is 4 light years away?
Because eventually all civilization on earth will be doomed. The earlier we start to explore the universe and find other habitable planets the better 👍
No!!!
Humans will never live there since that place is most likely uninhabitable
Disagree with the end. Once space travel is possible, how humans got to other planets will be part of their history lessons at school, so they will always know they came from a planet called Earth 🌍!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Maybe we should go to the moon before we think about alpha centauri. It's questionable of whether we can actually send humans to Mars or not. These are limescales that only mother nature can comprehend. We don't even know if climate change will do us in.
Dream on.
ha ha ha humans wont be here in 30 000 years
Probabile never gonna happen
lol lets get there first something we humans wont in god only knows how long.
If we don't invest in the future we are doomed to live in the past.
You can't.
It is a planet which look like mars or venus full in radiation,so don't waste time with these planet.
Unlikely, we have enough trouble forming one on Earth. What a load of rubbish!
Alpha Centauri is sun. No civilization could be formed, much less survive on Alpha Centauri
What a nonsense video!! What about developing technologies that increases velocity of space ships along the 30000+ years ahead? Did we forget the history of ancient human civilizations? Why should we forget about our history in the future even if we are light years away from each other?
bS bs .video
This is just a bunch of non-sense...
Insane curiosity do you know Jesus if do not know we can about it no judgment