Glad you’re enjoying them man, it’s a lot of gathering info, but also a good outlet to get all this random information out of my mind, and into a video haha.
That 'Orange Pie' device looks to have the d-pad, thumbsticks and buttons all in the right places. With the touchpads being the least used things in games relegated to the bottom. Looks good, they need to be sure the d-pad passes the Contra test, and that it's good for fighting games, quarter circle, half circle and double tapping / dashing inputs. Hall-whatever magnetic thumbsticks and shoulder buttons are a must so you dont have to open the system to repair it, and there needs to be at least 4 paddles on the back. Without the 4 paddles on the back, it's the same exact controller as a PS2, 23 year old input standards.
PSA: AFMF typically disables itself when "fast motion" is detected on screen; it was actually originally designed to go hand-in-hand (pun intended) with Radeon Boost.
tbh it's a bad move to release an ALLY 2, the performance gain will be insignificant if any. Valve is right again... wait for a decent gain until a second gen.
I just want to say that 16 gigs of ram is very small bcz some games uses more vram so we ran short on both and ram and vram so atleast 32 gigs needed and apu should be atleast 45 watts like claw. Thats from my side
It has been a little hit or miss. Currently they seem to be responsive from what I've heard, there was a time where it was a little rough for 3 months or so.
As someone who has been following windows handhelds since the first GPD win, the jump to AMD was the most significant boost forward in these handhelds for me... Not just due to performance but compatibility... I haven't had to tweak more than like 3 games since the 3 new handhelds I've had with amd...Intel was constant, especially for new games.. I'm sure the performance on these new Intel handhelds like the claw will be fine...but I'm betting now that compatibility will be a pain and the Intel devices are gonna be more for the tinkerers and less for mass market.
Was it an official announcement from msi that or it was just reporting from the verge? Because msi previously told verge that they consider it to be a VRR display if you can toggle between fixed 48hz and fixed 120hz. So I'm still a bit skeptical. If what you say it's true it would be awesome for the handheld market since VRR would become kinda the norm.
Praying you can trade the og ally in for a discount. Would love to use the SD card slot for extra storage i haven't touched the SD slot due to people having the thermal stress issues.
A possible PS4-capable handheld is intriguing, though I can't help but expect some irritating decisions by Sony that will make me not want it. Like putting backwards compatibility behind a paywall, or wanting people to buy their proprietary earbuds. I'd be out for sure if the handheld is launched as it's own ecosystem, to where I couldn't play all the PS4 digital games I own.
The decision to not include Bluetooth in the ps portal was the correct one. As it's designed for remote streaming only, Bluetooth would negatively impact performance.
Nice comprehensive video 👍 I have to say I'm quite curious about the Pi Neo, I'd like to switch to a Linux based handheld so I'm looking out for any news in that regard. Probably won't go that way as the 7840U is not a great step forward compared to my OXP2, so I guess I'll still wait until a Deck 2. But I'm interested in the Pi nontheless. On a personal note: leaked BIOS is like the bumbest thing I've ever heard...good call pointing this out for people to stay alert. Cannot believe someone is willing to leak a beta software to gain like 5 seconds of "fame" on the internet... 😑
Dude i hope they put more ram options and storage. 16 and 2tb is not enough and more colors big screen with 165hz and more RGB and the audio put dirac and hi res audio Dolby audio is okay but I can't tell the different in audio
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@@okestgamer yeah I'm hearing all these things and seen some test video but they are using beta drivers, I'm guessing by the time MSI claw is out the drivers will be updated so it can compete with ally. I just want it to have z1 extreme power then I'll be happy.
@@okestgamer if it doesn't MSI claw is doomed since it's the same price as a ally but can't handle a candle, a AMD variant is going to pop out very soon after if the claws performance is still lacking a month after launch. Then Intels back the drawing board. But heres to hoping it'll be fine and at least pull z1 extreme performance. If it does pool Z1 extreme speeds then it's just basically a black rug Ally and you have the option of AMD or Intel. This would have been better a year ago but since a 8840 is basically a 7840 which is basically a z1 extreme the ultra can last this gen with the 8840 out as long as it matches or does a little better than a z1 extreme.
These devices are all about finding the correct settings. I can't speak for rust personally, I would Google rust gameplay on ROG ally or legion Go to get a good idea
Ps5 graphics on a handheld? No such thing. If you plan to play like cyberpunk at the highest settings on rog, it wont be as good looking as it would compared to playing it on consoles. Majoriry of AAA games its good mix of low-mid, tops. Im not saying it doesnt look good but its good enough for the screen size of the ally.
Thankkkk youuuuu!!!! Somebody fucken said it 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 these idiots out here are giving out these pre-release updates they're going to destroy your device and I said that once I'm like I don't do betta crap like that I'm not a Dev to mess with that I left comments before saying that and I had people that would leave me common saying oh no they work and all this bullshit when really you don't know if it's going to work and destroy your device and I even had the people that are making a videos tell me that oh it's works and this time the third and I'm like dude I don't care what you do nothing in the world is going to have me download some crap that's all buggy and would probably mess up my device so no I'm not an idiot but thank you so much for finally saying that man 👍👍👍👏👏👏😎😎😎 also on a side note I have the legion go and I have the Rog Ally I don't think I'm going to get me another handheld PC for a while I'm good with those devices and the batteries are great on them if you know how to tweak your computer if you don't know how to do it then yeah you're going to be one of those people talking about battery this battery that lmao 🤣 😂 smfh 🤦🤦🤦 once again thanks for the video man 👍😎✌️
No problem for the video, I think its always best to get the software from the company, but more importantly bios updates should be official if passing on to the public. If it's not, then a lot of disclaimers need to be present so people know what they are getting into. In then legion Go situation, the beta testing group is limited to find issues quickly, so having random people have issues in forums and social groups isn't easy for the company to track, plus a lot of folks don't identify that they are on a beta version so it makes it appear that the stable release also has an issue even if it does not.
@okestgamer your absolutely correct that's why I don't pay attention what most of these videos say or do when they talk about beta or download this software from this other website or whatever the case may be I rather just hold it off and wait for a stable update to come out for anything whether it's bios or anything else other than that 👍😎✌️
@@melloman999 that would be nice but I wouldn't expect to see anything significantly bigger crammed in there. Valve had to redesign the entire deck internals and go with an APU built on a smaller nm process just to fit a battery with like 7wh more in the shell.
Unless advancements in battery tech happen, a better battery isn’t possible unless the device is heavier and/or bigger. If the ROG Ally has an APU based on the 8840u APU then performance will be nearly identical.
Asus rog ally the worst device evr I hopefully msi do better I bought 3 rog ally problem battery 2 SanDisk 3 joystic rgb buttons now I'm back on steam oled
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these update videos are the best on youtube!!! thank you
Glad you’re enjoying them man, it’s a lot of gathering info, but also a good outlet to get all this random information out of my mind, and into a video haha.
That 'Orange Pie' device looks to have the d-pad, thumbsticks and buttons all in the right places. With the touchpads being the least used things in games relegated to the bottom. Looks good, they need to be sure the d-pad passes the Contra test, and that it's good for fighting games, quarter circle, half circle and double tapping / dashing inputs. Hall-whatever magnetic thumbsticks and shoulder buttons are a must so you dont have to open the system to repair it, and there needs to be at least 4 paddles on the back. Without the 4 paddles on the back, it's the same exact controller as a PS2, 23 year old input standards.
Yeah that would be great if they take it through the paces before releasing. I'm also hoping they actually bring it to market
Great to see another update video! Another informative one! Thanks as always for the information and thoroughness you bring to these!
Not a problem man, thanks for the kind words
PSA: AFMF typically disables itself when "fast motion" is detected on screen; it was actually originally designed to go hand-in-hand (pun intended) with Radeon Boost.
This is good to know, I haven't experimented enough to run into this yet
tbh it's a bad move to release an ALLY 2, the performance gain will be insignificant if any. Valve is right again... wait for a decent gain until a second gen.
Most likely you're right about it being a modest gain
At least they can move internals for micro sd maybe better sticks buttons but same performance I'm ok with.
@@jklaro101 Even if you already have the original version? at least they shouldn't call it Ally 2
Got my wife an Ally. I would be interested in an Ally 2. Waiting to see what it looks like in terms of specs, cost, and features.
Same here, hopefully it's not based off the 8840 that seems to have the same igpu.
I just want to say that 16 gigs of ram is very small bcz some games uses more vram so we ran short on both and ram and vram so atleast 32 gigs needed and apu should be atleast 45 watts like claw. Thats from my side
Would be nice if 32 was the new standard. Many of my other brand handhelds have 32gb
I love the handheld pc market now.its starting to get interesting.
Yeah it's seems like it's only just beginning.
I hope more handhelds do legion go mouse fps mode i am saving up yo buy a legion go to go with my asus rog ally
It's a pretty cool feature to have added I agree.
If you have any issue with AOKZOE handheld? how is their customer care like? That’s my worry
It has been a little hit or miss. Currently they seem to be responsive from what I've heard, there was a time where it was a little rough for 3 months or so.
As someone who has been following windows handhelds since the first GPD win, the jump to AMD was the most significant boost forward in these handhelds for me... Not just due to performance but compatibility... I haven't had to tweak more than like 3 games since the 3 new handhelds I've had with amd...Intel was constant, especially for new games.. I'm sure the performance on these new Intel handhelds like the claw will be fine...but I'm betting now that compatibility will be a pain and the Intel devices are gonna be more for the tinkerers and less for mass market.
Yeah amd seems to have brought a lot of stability. Let’s hope Intel does better now
Was it an official announcement from msi that or it was just reporting from the verge? Because msi previously told verge that they consider it to be a VRR display if you can toggle between fixed 48hz and fixed 120hz. So I'm still a bit skeptical. If what you say it's true it would be awesome for the handheld market since VRR would become kinda the norm.
Supposedly was a conversation the verge had with them. Honestly I am surprised they wouldn't market it if it was a vrr display
@@okestgamer it's all so strange... I bei believe it when it finally comes out
Praying you can trade the og ally in for a discount. Would love to use the SD card slot for extra storage i haven't touched the SD slot due to people having the thermal stress issues.
Yeah that’s an interesting idea, I have no idea if they would entertain that or not
Yeah i sure hope so otherwise ill probably not upgrade if it's close to the same price lol@@okestgamer
I have a feeling Ally 2 will be coming around late 2024 before the holidays, to make a lot of sales. I just know it.
Yeah I feel like October or November
I'll be getting it for sure I love my rog ally extreme
A possible PS4-capable handheld is intriguing, though I can't help but expect some irritating decisions by Sony that will make me not want it. Like putting backwards compatibility behind a paywall, or wanting people to buy their proprietary earbuds. I'd be out for sure if the handheld is launched as it's own ecosystem, to where I couldn't play all the PS4 digital games I own.
It's a ps4/ps5 and possibly ps6 capable device per the leaks/reports/rumors.
The decision to not include Bluetooth in the ps portal was the correct one. As it's designed for remote streaming only, Bluetooth would negatively impact performance.
I'm curious what they would do. Would be cool to play your current library on it.
Eyyy looks like the claw got ya 😂 ❤❤❤ good fun! Very happy to see it has vrr none the less
Same here, a bet I am happy to lose
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Nice comprehensive video 👍
I have to say I'm quite curious about the Pi Neo, I'd like to switch to a Linux based handheld so I'm looking out for any news in that regard. Probably won't go that way as the 7840U is not a great step forward compared to my OXP2, so I guess I'll still wait until a Deck 2. But I'm interested in the Pi nontheless.
On a personal note: leaked BIOS is like the bumbest thing I've ever heard...good call pointing this out for people to stay alert.
Cannot believe someone is willing to leak a beta software to gain like 5 seconds of "fame" on the internet... 😑
Yeah I hear ya man, not sure why they did it. I'm also curious about the pi neo, hopefully they actually release it this time.
Dude i hope they put more ram options and storage. 16 and 2tb is not enough and more colors big screen with 165hz and more RGB and the audio put dirac and hi res audio Dolby audio is okay but I can't tell the different in audio
I have a feeling the next devices will be 32gb. That will probably be their main selling feature.
@@okestgamer well we will have to see what they giving us when it launch they better don't miss up
Dang I was ready to get a leigon go but now want to wait for Ally 2 😅
Might be late in the year if I was to guess. Legion Go is also a solid choice if you decide to go with it.
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Yeah I backed it as well, looking forward to testing it out
@@okestgamer yeah I'm hearing all these things and seen some test video but they are using beta drivers, I'm guessing by the time MSI claw is out the drivers will be updated so it can compete with ally. I just want it to have z1 extreme power then I'll be happy.
@@Cerealkiller824 I’m planning to do a bunch of testing to get familiar. I’m hoping it can keep pace as well
@@okestgamer if it doesn't MSI claw is doomed since it's the same price as a ally but can't handle a candle, a AMD variant is going to pop out very soon after if the claws performance is still lacking a month after launch. Then Intels back the drawing board. But heres to hoping it'll be fine and at least pull z1 extreme performance. If it does pool Z1 extreme speeds then it's just basically a black rug Ally and you have the option of AMD or Intel. This would have been better a year ago but since a 8840 is basically a 7840 which is basically a z1 extreme the ultra can last this gen with the 8840 out as long as it matches or does a little better than a z1 extreme.
Is that a phone in the video and if so which? Looks like a Samsung ultra
It’s a redmagic 9 pro, great phone
I will buy of one these products if I can run Rust and get 70-80 fps mini.
These devices are all about finding the correct settings. I can't speak for rust personally, I would Google rust gameplay on ROG ally or legion Go to get a good idea
Random question but how are you using that phone as a monitor at the start?
I was playing through Xbox remote play from my series x
I want to buy ps5 but it overheat and crashes i want ps5 graphics on handled what will be good Rog ally or Steam deck???
go with Rog Ally, but i u want a bigger screen choose Lenogo Go!
@@puus6218 can rog ally deliever 30 fps on high settings on warzone
Ps5 graphics on a handheld? No such thing. If you plan to play like cyberpunk at the highest settings on rog, it wont be as good looking as it would compared to playing it on consoles. Majoriry of AAA games its good mix of low-mid, tops. Im not saying it doesnt look good but its good enough for the screen size of the ally.
The ally will be more powerful than the steak deck, but is more complicated to setup if you're new to PC.
Ill prob go for rog ally 2 if ram is increased to 32g, but id Def go for it if they make it thunderbolt 4 or occulink and not just overpriced xgmobile
I wish they would do that as well, but I’m guessing they want to keep the ports as their own so people have to buy their specific egpu
Legion GO is still the King 👑 no competition what so ever .
Glad you're enjoying it man, it's a solid device 💪
Because it's always a good Idea to release something like this on April 1st.
Wait. It's not. 😁
Yeah that was super confusing for the Ally at first.
If it’s just OLED screen then big deal. Graphics are over rated it’s more about playing modern games at a stable frame rate
No idea what to expect, not sure of any major apu updates around the immediate corner that offer any benefits.
Yes 1080p@120Hz is my absolute minimum for a handheld. I won't go below that even for OLED
Msi Claw is DOA
I'll be curious to see how it shapes up. I have a onexplayer X1 coming soon, so I'll be testing the Apu ahead of time.
Thankkkk youuuuu!!!! Somebody fucken said it 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 these idiots out here are giving out these pre-release updates they're going to destroy your device and I said that once I'm like I don't do betta crap like that I'm not a Dev to mess with that I left comments before saying that and I had people that would leave me common saying oh no they work and all this bullshit when really you don't know if it's going to work and destroy your device and I even had the people that are making a videos tell me that oh it's works and this time the third and I'm like dude I don't care what you do nothing in the world is going to have me download some crap that's all buggy and would probably mess up my device so no I'm not an idiot but thank you so much for finally saying that man 👍👍👍👏👏👏😎😎😎 also on a side note I have the legion go and I have the Rog Ally I don't think I'm going to get me another handheld PC for a while I'm good with those devices and the batteries are great on them if you know how to tweak your computer if you don't know how to do it then yeah you're going to be one of those people talking about battery this battery that lmao 🤣 😂 smfh 🤦🤦🤦 once again thanks for the video man 👍😎✌️
No problem for the video, I think its always best to get the software from the company, but more importantly bios updates should be official if passing on to the public. If it's not, then a lot of disclaimers need to be present so people know what they are getting into.
In then legion Go situation, the beta testing group is limited to find issues quickly, so having random people have issues in forums and social groups isn't easy for the company to track, plus a lot of folks don't identify that they are on a beta version so it makes it appear that the stable release also has an issue even if it does not.
@okestgamer your absolutely correct that's why I don't pay attention what most of these videos say or do when they talk about beta or download this software from this other website or whatever the case may be I rather just hold it off and wait for a stable update to come out for anything whether it's bios or anything else other than that 👍😎✌️
If you're expecting better performance or significantly better battery life from an ROG Ally 2 in 2024 you're absolutely dreaming.
I'm waiting for the better battery. Cross my fingers
@@melloman999 that would be nice but I wouldn't expect to see anything significantly bigger crammed in there. Valve had to redesign the entire deck internals and go with an APU built on a smaller nm process just to fit a battery with like 7wh more in the shell.
Unless advancements in battery tech happen, a better battery isn’t possible unless the device is heavier and/or bigger. If the ROG Ally has an APU based on the 8840u APU then performance will be nearly identical.
The one thing they can't take...our dreams lol
That's would also be great
Lolol MSI. If that's VRR then every monitor with multiple fixed refresh rates (literally all of them) is a VRR display. 👍🤡
Let's see what the official specs ends up being, but I do hope it's the same display as the ROG Ally.
Asus rog ally the worst device evr I hopefully msi do better I bought 3 rog ally problem battery 2 SanDisk 3 joystic rgb buttons now I'm back on steam oled
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. I had some challenges with mine, but it was all the SD card slot.
Is it good? Yes, its good AF, MF.
I've mostly been using the FSR3 mod and my God is it a game changer. I had an ayaneo air pro (5825u);running cyberpunk at 60fps
2 weeks and no videos? WTF?
I work two jobs, one of which has been extra busy this last month. so getting time to put together a video has been tough. I am working on a pretty sweet mod video for the legion Go though. It doubles the joystick tension.
So they'll be abandoning rog ally owners like they do with the phones. Asus doesn't deserve any thrust
Let's hope not, but I get the fear of it. The SD slot situation was not handled well
Steam deck 2 2025?😢
Honestly, probably 2025
So is this an April fools thing here?
Let’s hope not, but looks like that may be the launch window