Hello, this is a very relevant remark. i wouldn't know if the car handles a bit differently. Even if my time precision would be +- 0.2s max for example, there's still would be a difference.
I have a question. In Hybrid, Dynamic mode is the engine always running and supported by the e motor ? Or is it also shut off when not flooring it ? Thanks !
Hello, I do not remember well as it is a bit old. If not mistaken what will make effect is not the « dynamic » drive mode itself (you also have efficiency, comfort, auto, dynamic) but more the hybrid mode you are in (hybrid auto (battery auto) or hybrid hold (battery hold)). In hybrid hold mode (wether your are in dynamic drive mode or not) the engine will be almost always on, and the EV will assist. (The correct terms are battery not hybrid. I made a mistake in the video)
The acceleration in electric mode seems very weak, considering Audi claiming that the electric drivetrain reaches 105 kW peak power (which is quite much for a phev).
Hello, Indeed, limiting the power output at 50% is a bit annoying. I have tried to explain it in my review. I suspect it is for the driver safety (car would be more reactive by engaging fuel engin sooner if you need to overtake as it is heavy) and fuel engine life (it would not rev as much with engine cold at 50% than at 100% with the button at the end of the pedal). But at least they did not repeat that on the new A3 TFSI e.
Thank you. I agree with you. You cannot really enjoy the full power of the EV engine (which has a nice power). I would find this normal in less powerful engines of other brands. But this is annoying for such an expensive and powerful car. You might engage the ICE by mistake. This would add wear to the engine for nothing.
LOL 24s from 0 - 100 ?!?!!??! Toyota RAV4 make this in 9.2s even Ford Kuga PHEV need 14s. VW German Concern don't know how to make a Hynbrid...LOL An this all for lot more money :P
Thanks for this, I was wondering how much difference there was between all the modes. I normally drive in Efficiency mode, so good to know I can just knock down into S and I'm not missing out on much power. I wish we could set the steering wheel button to jump into dynamic mode!
Hello, i am waiting for my Audi A6 55 TFSIe and i was wondering something. If my battery would be completely discharged, like 0%, will i be able to still use the full 367 hp power, the hybrid system still being able to work, or will i be limited on only 252hp(combustion engine only)?
Hello, As far as I remember you ll still have full power. Maybe at some point it might be limited but for my tests I still had full power. With the A3 e-tron that was not the case as soon as it was depleted. 😊
@AlexD-iu9yf You are welcome. Usually it will still drop slowly, especially during city driving with start & stop situations and usage of heating for example. Years have passed so it might be better now but still :)
hello, I ll try to answer you at the end of the week what was the displayed range. Last time I drove it I was able to drive around 40 KM without air ventilation inside (to save battery). Also outside was cold so it can affect range. The range suffers a bit because the electric motor has some power (and the car is heavy). The new A3 is lighter for a almost similar battery capacity with lower HP, so It should perform better in terms of range.
Hello, So the displayed range was 41 KM after a full charge. If I am not mistaken, the displayed range will get adapted depending on your usual driving style and outside temperature. So it can be also more in summer if you drive eco friendly.
Hello, Aha this is a good question but as i did not try the Q8 60 TFSI-e i will stay to the theory of it. The Q5 55 TFSIe is less good overall than the Q8 60 TFSIe in terms of performance if you look at the engines : 2L Inline 4 vs 3L V6 Fuel engine : 250 HP vs 330 HP / 370 Nm vs 450 Nm Electric engine : 140 HP vs 135 HP / 350 Nm vs 400 Nm Total : 362 HP vs 462 / 500 Nm vs 700 Nm 0-100 : 5.3s for Q5 vs 5.4s for Q8. So actually, officially they are very close in terms of who is faster at the 0-100 KM/H. You don't need to go too far for the explanation of such closeness despite the numbers in favor of the Q8. The Q8 is way heavier than the Q5. Q5 : 2150 KG Q8 : 2515 KG As they have the same battery capacity and almost the same EV torque, the weight is probably more on the car itself and the fuel engine (counting the fuel reservoir which is bigger on the Q8). The basic Q8 is around roughly 250 KG more than the Q5. So that's a tie :)
Hello and thank you 🤗. No I haven’t tested but if it s like the A3 e-tron, it will have a noticeable power loss. I ll see if I can tell you some numbers
Hello, So i was able to do it in 5.6 seconds. I had 0 KM of EV range, EV mode unavailable. I was still able to go at the end of the Boost zone. S mode, Hybrid Hold, Dynamic Drive select So it should have some kind of reserve to allow full acceleration (this was not the case on the 2015 A3 e-tron).
@@schmoestudy no problem. If you wanna see the video, use a computer and go here : public01.ddns.net:8081/d/f/543176964270243072 User : youtube Pw : youtube :)
That is a good question but I guess this is not a problem that could affect only this car. Some HEV / MHEV / PHEV cars can have the ICE engine off while driving in certains conditions. Therefore the oil technically should stop going through the turbo while still spinning and wearing would happen over time. I would suspect that engineers know better and have taken this problem into account. But your comment is totally legitimate. It reminds me the same situation with start and stop systems and HEV cars that would have some components wearing prematurely but those parts are reinforced.
@@funcarreviews My mom has a GTE (GTE has common turbo problems on cars that are revved cold and hot turndown) and after full throttle it waits around 6 seconds before turning the engine off. With your 55 tfsi e it turns off right away
Is your GTE the first one that came out ? This 6 seconds is happening in every mode the car has ? (For example, gear in D and mode in hybrid hold )? I have driven the first one a couple of times when it came out but never paid attention to it (was not reviewing vehicles at that time ). I reviewed the new A3 e-tron but I didn’t check that aspect. I checked the list of evolutions between the generations. If I remember well on my first A3 e-tron, in sport mode, the engine will not turn off right away. Then the Q5 came out and the electronic handling got different. With the new A3 e-tron, electric might differ once again but not that one which is important as you mentioned. This is my personal opinion, and I don’t know all the models of the world, but Toyota seem the be the best handling 2 engines, it s gear system and it s electronics for best efficiency and probably long life. GTE when it came out, seemed a bit more advanced than the A3. It felt like Audi had to make it fast to stay in the competition and missed some steps. The Q5 got better than the first A3 but is still not good enough compared to some others.
@@funcarreviews GTE does it in every mode as long as it has full throttle. On my chann i have GTE acceleration video, you can see it turn off (and i press throttle to activate engine for the turbo)
Hello, The hybrid hold mode (actually battery hold, I made a mistake), is a mode where the car will try to keep the same level of battery %. 🤗. All the tests were done with flooring the throttle :)
Hello, No you cannot. It could be possible with battery charge mode, but that disappeared for this Q5 and 2017 facelift A3. It was present on the 2015 A3 e-tron.
If the battery is empty, the fuel engine will turn on and it will engage in hybrid mode. When battery is more available, it will switch between electric and fuel engine.
I have not tested this car yet. It is possible that battery charge mode came back, as it is the case with the A3 TFSIe. I would not see any reasons for the Q8 to be any different in how it works. Maybe you can take a look at my A3 TFSIe test drive on my channel if you want some info on how it works 🤗
It is not bad, but the pricing at least in Canada the Q5 55 TFSI e quattro doesn't make sense - it costs $79000 here in one loaded trim only...and that is $4000 MORE than the fully electric Q4 50 e-tron quattro. Unless you live in an area with little charging infrastructure, I have to say I take the Q4 e-tron > Q5 TFSI e any day.
Hello, Well you’ll have different driving experiences between them. It really depends on your needs (and overall preferences) and like you said, the charging infrastructure. This Q5 is really expensive in full trim. I never drove a Q4 so i am not able to relate to the overall driving experience and compare :)
Hello, I do not remember exactly how it is marked for this model as I am testing lots of PHEVs. But hybrid hold would be battery Hold. Hybrid auto stays hybrid auto.
@@funcarreviews Thanks for this video anyway, gives a good understanding. I drive an A6 55 TFSI-e Quattro Wagon, so exactly the same drivetrain and engine(s) I believe. funny and strange thing is: - Audi states the Q5 does 0-100 in 5,2 and the A6 does it in 5,7 (which is really strange cause the Q5 is obviously less aerodynamic). Best I’ve done so far is 5,62 seconds, so 5,7 doesn’t seem too far off. - Doesn’t matter which mode I’m in (even in Efficiency and EV mode combined), the petrol engine ALWAYS kicks in when I floor the pedal
You are welcome. You have my Q5 TFSIe review for detailed explanations on the different modes. For the performance I do agree with you that the A6 should be better as you stated. On the A6 where does the EV power stop ? 50 % too ? I gave MY explanation on that in my test drive review but still find it strange. This is not the case on the A3 where 100% is possible. It will never go into ICE (unless you kick it down to the button at the end).
@@Lafiro hello, you have the drive select button and EV button between the button to start the car and the the ones to control your ventilation. The modes are explained in the test drive video on the channel 🤗
LOL 24s from 0 - 100 ?!?!!??! Toyota RAV4 make this in 9.2s even Ford Kuga PHEV need 14s. VW German Concern don't know how to make a Hynbrid...LOL An this all for lot more money :P
The Q5 is a bit different as they did not give the possibility to have the 100% of the electric power while in EV mode. If they had gave it, the number would have been way lower. That s a choice they made.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Hello,
Thanks to you :)
That's cool - i want it!
Why is "Dynamic, Hybrid Hold" faster than "Dynamic, Hybrid"?
Hello, this is a very relevant remark. i wouldn't know if the car handles a bit differently. Even if my time precision would be +- 0.2s max for example, there's still would be a difference.
I have a question. In Hybrid, Dynamic mode is the engine always running and supported by the e motor ? Or is it also shut off when not flooring it ? Thanks !
Hello,
I do not remember well as it is a bit old.
If not mistaken what will make effect is not the « dynamic » drive mode itself (you also have efficiency, comfort, auto, dynamic) but more the hybrid mode you are in (hybrid auto (battery auto) or hybrid hold (battery hold)).
In hybrid hold mode (wether your are in dynamic drive mode or not) the engine will be almost always on, and the EV will assist.
(The correct terms are battery not hybrid. I made a mistake in the video)
The acceleration in electric mode seems very weak, considering Audi claiming that the electric drivetrain reaches 105 kW peak power (which is quite much for a phev).
Hello,
Indeed, limiting the power output at 50% is a bit annoying. I have tried to explain it in my review. I suspect it is for the driver safety (car would be more reactive by engaging fuel engin sooner if you need to overtake as it is heavy) and fuel engine life (it would not rev as much with engine cold at 50% than at 100% with the button at the end of the pedal).
But at least they did not repeat that on the new A3 TFSI e.
@@funcarreviews Thanks! Both of your explanations make sense. But nevertheless that's not a good solution by Audi.
Thank you. I agree with you. You cannot really enjoy the full power of the EV engine (which has a nice power). I would find this normal in less powerful engines of other brands. But this is annoying for such an expensive and powerful car. You might engage the ICE by mistake. This would add wear to the engine for nothing.
LOL 24s from 0 - 100 ?!?!!??! Toyota RAV4 make this in 9.2s even Ford Kuga PHEV need 14s. VW German Concern don't know how to make a Hynbrid...LOL An this all for lot more money :P
@@TWARDOWSKY.😂 Enjoy your Ford fiesta
Thanks for this, I was wondering how much difference there was between all the modes. I normally drive in Efficiency mode, so good to know I can just knock down into S and I'm not missing out on much power. I wish we could set the steering wheel button to jump into dynamic mode!
You are welcome :)
This vehicle is sweet. What sort of litre per 100km would you get out of this ? The regular petrol is around 8-11 litres per 100/km
I would not remember. Sorry 😅
12 l per 100km
@@leonardodacapris302 that’s a lot of
@bilalahmed2123 it's a rocket
Hello, i am waiting for my Audi A6 55 TFSIe and i was wondering something. If my battery would be completely discharged, like 0%, will i be able to still use the full 367 hp power, the hybrid system still being able to work, or will i be limited on only 252hp(combustion engine only)?
Hello,
As far as I remember you ll still have full power. Maybe at some point it might be limited but for my tests I still had full power. With the A3 e-tron that was not the case as soon as it was depleted.
😊
@@funcarreviewsThank you, and for the hybrid hold mode will the battery actually remain the same, or just decrease slower over time?
@AlexD-iu9yf
You are welcome. Usually it will still drop slowly, especially during city driving with start & stop situations and usage of heating for example.
Years have passed so it might be better now but still :)
@@funcarreviewsand how many km have you managed to do on ev mode only from full to 0?
@AlexD-iu9yf it might have been
between 40-50 KM
What is pure ev range with fully charged battery ( from Your observations)?
hello, I ll try to answer you at the end of the week what was the displayed range.
Last time I drove it I was able to drive around 40 KM without air ventilation inside (to save battery). Also outside was cold so it can affect range.
The range suffers a bit because the electric motor has some power (and the car is heavy).
The new A3 is lighter for a almost similar battery capacity with lower HP, so It should perform better in terms of range.
@@funcarreviews i own 2017 A3 e-tron, looking forward to but A3 45 TFSIe in the future. Thx for reply ;)
@@TheHammondPL you are welcome.
I think our A3 e tron is better finished and comfortable than the new one. But the hybrid system is better.
Hello,
So the displayed range was 41 KM after a full charge. If I am not mistaken, the displayed range will get adapted depending on your usual driving style and outside temperature. So it can be also more in summer if you drive eco friendly.
@@funcarreviews Thanks
I guess we gotta drive it in S Hybrid Hold Dynamic permanently :D
For maximum fun ? Yes 😄🤣
Hello . The Q8 60 TFSI-e ,is faster than 55 ? Regards
Hello,
Aha this is a good question but as i did not try the Q8 60 TFSI-e i will stay to the theory of it.
The Q5 55 TFSIe is less good overall than the Q8 60 TFSIe in terms of performance if you look at the engines :
2L Inline 4 vs 3L V6
Fuel engine : 250 HP vs 330 HP / 370 Nm vs 450 Nm
Electric engine : 140 HP vs 135 HP / 350 Nm vs 400 Nm
Total : 362 HP vs 462 / 500 Nm vs 700 Nm
0-100 : 5.3s for Q5 vs 5.4s for Q8.
So actually, officially they are very close in terms of who is faster at the 0-100 KM/H.
You don't need to go too far for the explanation of such closeness despite the numbers in favor of the Q8.
The Q8 is way heavier than the Q5.
Q5 : 2150 KG
Q8 : 2515 KG
As they have the same battery capacity and almost the same EV torque, the weight is probably more on the car itself and the fuel engine (counting the fuel reservoir which is bigger on the Q8).
The basic Q8 is around roughly 250 KG more than the Q5.
So that's a tie :)
@@funcarreviews Thanks for your answer. You are the best. Regards from Greece
@@sp13kaipar you are welcome and thanks to you. Regards from Switzerland 🤗
Great video. Have you tested 0-100 once the battery range says 0? How is performance affected?
Hello and thank you 🤗.
No I haven’t tested but if it s like the A3 e-tron, it will have a noticeable power loss. I ll see if I can tell you some numbers
@@funcarreviews that would be great! Thanks
Hello,
So i was able to do it in 5.6 seconds.
I had 0 KM of EV range, EV mode unavailable.
I was still able to go at the end of the Boost zone.
S mode, Hybrid Hold, Dynamic Drive select
So it should have some kind of reserve to allow full acceleration (this was not the case on the 2015 A3 e-tron).
@@funcarreviews wow that’s really nice of the EV system over the A3. Thanks for finding out
@@schmoestudy no problem. If you wanna see the video, use a computer and go here :
public01.ddns.net:8081/d/f/543176964270243072
User : youtube
Pw : youtube
:)
What means the power after the boost? The cursor don't go there after boost. 😊
Hello,
It is jus to indicate that what is presented in front of you is the « power » gage. Like it would be for RPM for example :)
I hope the turbo is electricly cooled?
That is a good question but I guess this is not a problem that could affect only this car. Some HEV / MHEV / PHEV cars can have the ICE engine off while driving in certains conditions. Therefore the oil technically should stop going through the turbo while still spinning and wearing would happen over time. I would suspect that engineers know better and have taken this problem into account.
But your comment is totally legitimate.
It reminds me the same situation with start and stop systems and HEV cars that would have some components wearing prematurely but those parts are reinforced.
@@funcarreviews My mom has a GTE (GTE has common turbo problems on cars that are revved cold and hot turndown) and after full throttle it waits around 6 seconds before turning the engine off. With your 55 tfsi e it turns off right away
Is your GTE the first one that came out ? This 6 seconds is happening in every mode the car has ? (For example, gear in D and mode in hybrid hold )?
I have driven the first one a couple of times when it came out but never paid attention to it (was not reviewing vehicles at that time ).
I reviewed the new A3 e-tron but I didn’t check that aspect. I checked the list of evolutions between the generations.
If I remember well on my first A3 e-tron, in sport mode, the engine will not turn off right away. Then the Q5 came out and the electronic handling got different. With the new A3 e-tron, electric might differ once again but not that one which is important as you mentioned.
This is my personal opinion, and I don’t know all the models of the world, but Toyota seem the be the best handling 2 engines, it s gear system and it s electronics for best efficiency and probably long life.
GTE when it came out, seemed a bit more advanced than the A3. It felt like Audi had to make it fast to stay in the competition and missed some steps.
The Q5 got better than the first A3 but is still not good enough compared to some others.
@@funcarreviews GTE does it in every mode as long as it has full throttle. On my chann i have GTE acceleration video, you can see it turn off (and i press throttle to activate engine for the turbo)
Indeed I have seen it. At least we can see it in GTE mode :)
What do you mean with „hybrid hold“? Like holding the brake while flooring the throttle and releasing the brake? Thanks for the video!
Hello,
The hybrid hold mode (actually battery hold, I made a mistake), is a mode where the car will try to keep the same level of battery %. 🤗.
All the tests were done with flooring the throttle :)
@Ilija Lončarević indeed I did not use the launch control. I don’t remember why 😂😂
@@funcarreviews Sooo, it would be .2-.3s faster then :)
@@IDOLIKIofficial Aha yeah probably
Can you Drive only with the Benzin motor? Or just hybrid
Hello,
No you cannot. It could be possible with battery charge mode, but that disappeared for this Q5 and 2017 facelift A3. It was present on the 2015 A3 e-tron.
What when the battery is empty, couldnt you Drive them anymore?
If the battery is empty, the fuel engine will turn on and it will engage in hybrid mode. When battery is more available, it will switch between electric and fuel engine.
I mean for the q8 55 tfsi e 2021 Model
I have not tested this car yet. It is possible that battery charge mode came back, as it is the case with the A3 TFSIe. I would not see any reasons for the Q8 to be any different in how it works. Maybe you can take a look at my A3 TFSIe test drive on my channel if you want some info on how it works 🤗
It is not bad, but the pricing at least in Canada the Q5 55 TFSI e quattro doesn't make sense - it costs $79000 here in one loaded trim only...and that is $4000 MORE than the fully electric Q4 50 e-tron quattro. Unless you live in an area with little charging infrastructure, I have to say I take the Q4 e-tron > Q5 TFSI e any day.
Hello,
Well you’ll have different driving experiences between them. It really depends on your needs (and overall preferences) and like you said, the charging infrastructure. This Q5 is really expensive in full trim. I never drove a Q4 so i am not able to relate to the overall driving experience and compare :)
60k tell me where to send it
How do I get that normal circular tachometer here in the US? Mine is a stupid little line at the bottom of the power gague.
Hello,
Are you talking about the small RPM on the left ?
@@funcarreviews yes, it's just a small straight line on mine, maybe they changed the US version.
@@MoneyShot702 ok so that is weird. I never saw what you are describing.
@@funcarreviews will do.
I dont have rpm meter on my 2022 60 tfsie , is there is way to put it on ?
S, Dynamic, Hybrid Hold = only petrol TFSI ?
Hello,
In this mode, both engines are used so you can have the full power of the car :)
I thought the modes where:
- EV
- Auto Hybrid
- Battery Hold
What are the modes “auto hybrid” and “Hybrid Hold”?
Hello,
I do not remember exactly how it is marked for this model as I am testing lots of PHEVs. But hybrid hold would be battery Hold. Hybrid auto stays hybrid auto.
@@funcarreviews
Thanks for this video anyway, gives a good understanding.
I drive an A6 55 TFSI-e Quattro Wagon, so exactly the same drivetrain and engine(s) I believe. funny and strange thing is:
- Audi states the Q5 does 0-100 in 5,2 and the A6 does it in 5,7 (which is really strange cause the Q5 is obviously less aerodynamic). Best I’ve done so far is 5,62 seconds, so 5,7 doesn’t seem too far off.
- Doesn’t matter which mode I’m in (even in Efficiency and EV mode combined), the petrol engine ALWAYS kicks in when I floor the pedal
You are welcome. You have my Q5 TFSIe review for detailed explanations on the different modes.
For the performance I do agree with you that the A6 should be better as you stated.
On the A6 where does the EV power stop ?
50 % too ? I gave MY explanation on that in my test drive review but still find it strange.
This is not the case on the A3 where 100% is possible. It will never go into ICE (unless you kick it down to the button at the end).
Just got this car and I only see those 3 modes as well. How would I change this?
@@Lafiro hello, you have the drive select button and EV button between the button to start the car and the the ones to control your ventilation. The modes are explained in the test drive video on the channel 🤗
Hi can you say audi q7 60 tfsı e 0 100 kmh ( the fastest mode please) thanks
Hello,
I do not know anyone with that car yet unfortunately. But if i can one day, i will :)
@@funcarreviews thanks
Test the 0-100 of A3 40 tfsi e
Hello,
As I don’t have the A3 anymore, I don’t know when it ll be possible 😖
A chart on the first comment would be nice
it sucks! my audi TTS from 2009, a 2.0 tfsi from 272 does ke 0-100 in 4.7 sc 😂😂
Aha yeah but don't forget there is a huuuuge weight difference ;)
4.7s with 272hp hahahahha
LOL 24s from 0 - 100 ?!?!!??! Toyota RAV4 make this in 9.2s even Ford Kuga PHEV need 14s. VW German Concern don't know how to make a Hynbrid...LOL An this all for lot more money :P
The Q5 is a bit different as they did not give the possibility to have the 100% of the electric power while in EV mode. If they had gave it, the number would have been way lower. That s a choice they made.
And you could see the A3 e-tron 0-100 video. It s not the same behavior and better 🤗