I find it incredible, because for years, violin was one of the worst midi instruments. I've had MuseScore4 for a few days. I dabbled in wiring for string quartet, and downloaded orchestral things, but am going to have to get this from the Classical MIDI Archives immediately, and try this piece. Edit: I'm back. Yeah, tried it in mine and this is a good one. In contrast, the 24th sounds like violin from outer space.
@@wetube6513 It's not the fault of MIDI, rather that sampling is an incredibly taxing and expensive process with limitations. Modeled instruments is the future
Musescore is unbelievable powerful. The woodwinds trill actually makes the clicking noise from the button chattering, brass can actually blat, and the piano sample is insane
So, scalar passages and double stops sound good, but any sound in which the bow adds nuance (ricochet, spiccato, sautille etc.) to the sound, like scratchiness or bounce, is lost. fascinating.
@@benjaminmiller5649 Actually, according to Tantacrul one of the lead developers of MuseScore MuseSounds is not a soundfont but rather a performance AI which can with limited success interpret the music giving a more realistic and musical output. It's more similar to note preformer in this regard.
@@gammafoxlore2981 I was referring only to the performance AI and nothing else. Obviously Note Performer and MuseSounds are very different, but they're similar in that they both use AI to achieve a better and more musical playback.
Getting a solo piece to sound good, a string one at that, is immensely difficult. MuseScore 4 sounds pretty good, barring some articulations and portamento issues here and there.
I noticed that with a horn piece I've been writing, it doesn't play extremely low pedal notes I know are possible because I play them every day warming up and it is a little annoying
@@Hohhot Which C for bass clarinet? I can understand double high C, I've only needed to go above that like twice, but 2 ledger line C would be inexcusable
I'm astonished to see how this software has come so far. I've tested almost every possible instrument they have in store, and I'm speechless, this is a very big change and one-up for the softwafe, and I've been using this since the 2nd version. Salud to them for this great notation software, and for more updates to come.
@@loganarichey4003 Mainly I just completely prefer the piano sound of 2 over 3, that and to upgrade to I think I'd have to reformat everything I've made, which I'm not willing to do
this is actually really good! but what i hate most is the voice midi. i just can't. whenever i write something for vocals, i just put it in as piano because i can't stand the aAahh sound
I dont understand why musescore doesnt add the sounds for those high notes that according to the program itself are part of the instrument range. Almost every instrument is cut off like this now
The gray/green notehead just means it would be a difficult note for the instrument. Red means out of range. Like, a very low A# before the lowest G would be red. There's no real issue with the green notes, if you assume a talented player.
a) sounds really good, compared to earlier program/midi player versions and other score interpreters; however, double stops and cords still sound somewhat like hand-organ and less like violin... b) Does sound quality keep fairly high if you include the original bowing (with four 32nds on the same upstroke/downstroke). c) Guess that it neither can replicate the particular sound of the movement over all four strings with each stroke nor naturally-tuned double stops (rather than 12-tone-equally tuned)
I think this is actually a recording as at measure 18-22, you can clearly hear a difference to the notes as the playing differs from what's on the score
@@loganarichey4003 that’s strange though because i tried recreating this piece on the same exact app for fun and used you as a guide, and i can hear the difference which is making me go insane because i checked a million times and it seemed perfect. also the exact thing i noticed was that some of the notes had a very brief rest after being played
Here’s a video from the head of design of musescore 4 in case any one is interested in the amount of work that went into making this version’s midi, as well as everything else, so much better th-cam.com/video/Qct6LKbneKQ/w-d-xo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
Hi, i am just looking and listening that the MusicScore 4 is a going to be sensational future notation software, I usually have been working with NOTION 6 , which is great also , very intuitive and have the customs rules to work with hundred the libraries of KONTACK by using the Keyswitches of course. Please let me ask you 2 questions: 1.- Is it posible to work with other libraries like KONTACK and how you can handle de articulations and techniques ? 2.- The complete library which comes with MusicScore is taken from recording sessions of real instruments? or they are synthetized , because to be free WOW! , you have to pay all the instrumentists and so on and so for.
I can't get it to play back properly at all. I think M4 can't properly assign cpu space and ends up throttling its self. Was this recorded using an apple device?
This might be ok except for the fact that I hate Paganini. Thanks for the demo. Shows how solo strings sound. If I ever do it, I'm figuring out how to turn down the reverb. It kind of obscures the notes at this point, especially high fast double stop triplets.
I've never used MuseScore before, but in order to hit the higher notes in the arpeggio's does the software allow you to simulate playing a note as a harmonic?
@@loganarichey4003 I use Sibelius and Sibelius 7 sounds aren't this impressive- don't have the other two but I'd expect NotePerformer to be really high quality too
Truly impressive. In a few years, we will no longer be able to distinguish between real and virtual performances. What will happen to violinists, pianists and other musicians?
Lmao thats like saying what will happen to classical performances when we can watch them on TH-cam. I'm in a city of 250,000 and Brahms 1st symphony was sold out the other night. Despite how good musescore sounds
It’s come so far, but it’s a shame that it will likely never become the standard if only for workflow and brand loyalty reasons. Just like Adobe, Sibelius and Finale have a firm grip on the market.
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u know you can add slurs and musescore 4 will interpret as ricochet
@@huailiulin thanks for the tip!
@@loganarichey4003 Hi, does this have muse sounds??
I need everyone watching this from the future to understand: Free violin VSTI’s have NEVER sounded this good.
Even many paid ones
I find it incredible, because for years, violin was one of the worst midi instruments. I've had MuseScore4 for a few days. I dabbled in wiring for string quartet, and downloaded orchestral things, but am going to have to get this from the Classical MIDI Archives immediately, and try this piece. Edit: I'm back. Yeah, tried it in mine and this is a good one. In contrast, the 24th sounds like violin from outer space.
It's always the same: short sounds like spiccato are easy to record, but sustained just sounds terrible. Had the same with EWQLSO
Because midi is so fucking shit we need a new format like MC or music file.
@@wetube6513 It's not the fault of MIDI, rather that sampling is an incredibly taxing and expensive process with limitations. Modeled instruments is the future
@@douwemusic EWQL is over a decade old. There are many better more modern violin sample libraries
I think trombone midi is also pretty terrible
Musescore is unbelievable powerful. The woodwinds trill actually makes the clicking noise from the button chattering, brass can actually blat, and the piano sample is insane
for a “notation software”, pretty impressive. imaging what they will release in future versions.
And a free one as well!
So, scalar passages and double stops sound good, but any sound in which the bow adds nuance (ricochet, spiccato, sautille etc.) to the sound, like scratchiness or bounce, is lost. fascinating.
@@jellyfrogfish soundfonts are not made with ai. ai has nothing to do with this
@@benjaminmiller5649 oh well thanks for informing me. How are they made? I don’t really know much about this 😅
@@benjaminmiller5649 Actually, according to Tantacrul one of the lead developers of MuseScore MuseSounds is not a soundfont but rather a performance AI which can with limited success interpret the music giving a more realistic and musical output. It's more similar to note preformer in this regard.
@@Ineptune Noteperformer has a synth component though.... this is only samples.
@@gammafoxlore2981 I was referring only to the performance AI and nothing else. Obviously Note Performer and MuseSounds are very different, but they're similar in that they both use AI to achieve a better and more musical playback.
Getting a solo piece to sound good, a string one at that, is immensely difficult. MuseScore 4 sounds pretty good, barring some articulations and portamento issues here and there.
Missing out difficult though possible notes towards the high and low ends of instrument ranges is one of M4's more noticeable issues.
Yeah I noticed that the cello caps off almost 5 notes before it’s highest stopped note (excluding false harmonics)
I noticed that with a horn piece I've been writing, it doesn't play extremely low pedal notes I know are possible because I play them every day warming up and it is a little annoying
Bass clarinet stops at C and soprano stops at F
I've noticed the trumpet stops at high C for instance.
@@Hohhot Which C for bass clarinet? I can understand double high C, I've only needed to go above that like twice, but 2 ledger line C would be inexcusable
I'm astonished to see how this software has come so far. I've tested almost every possible instrument they have in store, and I'm speechless, this is a very big change and one-up for the softwafe, and I've been using this since the 2nd version. Salud to them for this great notation software, and for more updates to come.
Dude that's incredible
As someone who's played violin for a little over a decade, this isn't quite 100% there, but much closer than musescore 3 ever was.
Me who still Prefers Musescore 2 for various reasons.
@@loganarichey4003 Mainly I just completely prefer the piano sound of 2 over 3, that and to upgrade to I think I'd have to reformat everything I've made, which I'm not willing to do
this is actually really good! but what i hate most is the voice midi. i just can't. whenever i write something for vocals, i just put it in as piano because i can't stand the aAahh sound
@@loganarichey4003 ooh thank you sm
Alright you've convinced me, imma download the thing.
This will take me my whole life to practice
You will also need to practice a bit in heaven to get it right
@@Dylonely_9274 😩
@@KlsoNl just joking, don’t take it bad ;)
IT SOUNDS SO REAL IM SCARED
I dont understand why musescore doesnt add the sounds for those high notes that according to the program itself are part of the instrument range. Almost every instrument is cut off like this now
The gray/green notehead just means it would be a difficult note for the instrument. Red means out of range. Like, a very low A# before the lowest G would be red. There's no real issue with the green notes, if you assume a talented player.
@@ENCELADUSCompositions yeah but for many instruments the green part doesn't have playback and sometimes even a part of the normal range doesn't
a) sounds really good, compared to earlier program/midi player versions and other score interpreters; however, double stops and cords still sound somewhat like hand-organ and less like violin...
b) Does sound quality keep fairly high if you include the original bowing (with four 32nds on the same upstroke/downstroke).
c) Guess that it neither can replicate the particular sound of the movement over all four strings with each stroke nor naturally-tuned double stops (rather than 12-tone-equally tuned)
I think this is actually a recording as at measure 18-22, you can clearly hear a difference to the notes as the playing differs from what's on the score
@@loganarichey4003 that’s strange though because i tried recreating this piece on the same exact app for fun and used you as a guide, and i can hear the difference which is making me go insane because i checked a million times and it seemed perfect. also the exact thing i noticed was that some of the notes had a very brief rest after being played
I'm a violinist. It has improved, I'll give you that.
Why can’t MIDI saxophones sounds this good
Here’s a video from the head of design of musescore 4 in case any one is interested in the amount of work that went into making this version’s midi, as well as everything else, so much better
th-cam.com/video/Qct6LKbneKQ/w-d-xo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
Bars 50 et 56, hight notes were lost in the process :/
Sounds very good with the Muse Violin Solo!
I got a request: Can you do the 1st movement from Handel's Harp Concerto using Muse Sounds?
@@loganarichey4003 Also, you should notice that there are updates to the Harp and Percussion if you look in the Muse Hub.
Musecore is giving Spitfire Audio a run for their money 🤣
why it doenst reproduce the high notes?
wwow sounds like live performed .....
Don't know how to download it if Musehub only gives errors and doesn't connect
sounds very human, which violin sample did you usae violin solo 1 or violin solo 2
Hi, i am just looking and listening that the MusicScore 4 is a going to be sensational future notation software, I usually have been working with NOTION 6 , which is great also , very intuitive and have the customs rules to work with hundred the libraries of KONTACK by using the Keyswitches of course. Please let me ask you 2 questions:
1.- Is it posible to work with other libraries like KONTACK and how you can handle de articulations and techniques ?
2.- The complete library which comes with MusicScore is taken from recording sessions of real instruments? or they are synthetized , because to be free WOW! , you have to pay all the instrumentists and so on and so for.
Why does it give up on the notes that are "out of range"? I thought MuseScore just played them anyway?
Torture for Solo Violin 😂
I can't get it to play back properly at all. I think M4 can't properly assign cpu space and ends up throttling its self. Was this recorded using an apple device?
This might be ok except for the fact that I hate Paganini. Thanks for the demo. Shows how solo strings sound. If I ever do it, I'm figuring out how to turn down the reverb. It kind of obscures the notes at this point, especially high fast double stop triplets.
I've never used MuseScore before, but in order to hit the higher notes in the arpeggio's does the software allow you to simulate playing a note as a harmonic?
excellent. is the score available for download?
It's in public domain i imagine, since its over 100 years old
Have you tried this with Dorico or (heaven forbid Sibelius) to see how they compare?
Dorico handles it equally well.
@@loganarichey4003 I use Sibelius and Sibelius 7 sounds aren't this impressive- don't have the other two but I'd expect NotePerformer to be really high quality too
Truly impressive. In a few years, we will no longer be able to distinguish between real and virtual performances. What will happen to violinists, pianists and other musicians?
Lmao thats like saying what will happen to classical performances when we can watch them on TH-cam. I'm in a city of 250,000 and Brahms 1st symphony was sold out the other night. Despite how good musescore sounds
why is it slightly flat 💀
solo violin has tuning issues, I can't get my head around it for legato playing, it's terrible for that, sounds like shit and is driving me insane
Unfortunately, low brass instruments sound atrocious in Musescore.
It’s come so far, but it’s a shame that it will likely never become the standard if only for workflow and brand loyalty reasons. Just like Adobe, Sibelius and Finale have a firm grip on the market.
There are real people who can play this????
Oh yes sure it does! Just search Paganini Caprice 1 on YT! Roman Kim had the most craziest rendition 😂
This is a pretty standard piece of violin repertoire
@@awsickler people are amazing sometimes i guess
I'm not the best violinist in the world but I think if you can get the bow articulation then it's just some shifting and some tough hand frames
@@davedonnie6425 i think this is one of the most difficult paganini's caprice
Torture for solo violin haha
hell nah i aint playing allat
Wat