This is really ironic considering that the actor who's playing him is actually gay but the mother seems so disgusted seeing that he committed these crimes this whole episode is just ironic
There are times where getting a conviction no matter how justified would be difficult at best and mostly counterproductive. A mother protecting her child when no one got hurt would probably be one of those situations. Also you can only fit so much on to an hour of television.
That lineup wouldn't be hard to get thrown out on account of the head wound, I think. It's easily visible and makes him stand out in the bunch. Could be argued as prejudicial.
It's hard to watch this show sometimes when you practice law. For instance him being charged on that lineup alone is unrealistic and would never be admissible. There's not only a fresh head wound separating him from the rest of the lineup but it's a high profile case and he was filmed being taken from his home so his image wouldve been everywhere before the ID was made. Still love the suspense and the plot twists. One of my favorite shows of all time.
@@timothyhannon4078 no but you'd have to compile a lineup of that has at least 2-3 people with fresh, visible wounds to even allow the initial ID to stick. Any lawyer could get it thrown out on that alone. Then you'd have to deal with the fact of him being televised causing reasonable doubt in the authenticity of the identification just to even maybe use that in your prosecution.
I agree. Such a lineup would probably be more prejudicial than probative. You can't have one specific individual substantially stick out from the other five individuals. This is also why courts won't allow lineup evidence in in which the suspect was identified by being the lone black guy out of a group of five other white guys.
@@refinedsugar Yes, we all know that. Jacob's point was that IN REAL LIFE things would not happen that way. And I think that was obvious to most of us. Apparently not to all of us.
Did that mom unironically try to hit police detectives with the "he didn du nuthin" line? Also did that dude try to jump out of the second floor window????
Most mother’s in that kind of situation always pull the “he didn’t do nothin’” line. Look at practically anyone that gets arrested or killed by police. It’s the go-to line, even when they convicted felons that have committed tons of crimes and have been caught red-handed even.
Love this episode. Amy Madigan was incredible, this was probably Linus Roache's finest hour on the show and the twist in the episode was unexpected and awesome
@@lildad559 it was an action that could be used against him in court, by showing that he and his parental figure both have shitty personalities. Relating to the character of the individual.
Fight or flight, just mothers instincts - I can only imagine the world in her head being flipped faster than she can comprehend You see your own flesh and blood, the child you raised being pinned and bleeding - regardless of the damage he just did in the house and running Your first act is do SOMETHING Yell scream- of all the things that come to mind that makes sense of the situation, this is the one most clear Would you be able to be so calm? Hindsight makes the “what if” easy for us, but in the moment of shock of falling dominos, would you really stand there and do nothing?
@@mysticdragonwolf89 In this case, her son did something wrong, she is harboring a fugitive. Then when the police are trying to arrest her son, she threw objects at them. No one in their right mind would attempt this. Her son is still going to jail and she is at risk of being charged with assault on an officer. She knows that her child did something wrong, yet still blindly defends him, it isn't "motherly instincts", stop trying to justify the actions of a mother ignoring the faults of a grown person who should take accountability for his own actions.
@@eunhastolemyheart6098 boy didnt do it. find it how ever you want just because we dont like something does not mean we want you dead. the gay guys ex did it.
3:16 Dude may have been on the wrong side of this, but ironically irl he'd be totally right. A line up identification where the suspects arrest was shown on TV, and where the suspect is the only one with identifiable wounds just wouldn't hold up.
This episode just shows that they should do a whole lot more investigation before they arrest and try someone. It seems too easy to get someone convicted on circumstantial evidence.
Too bad in real life this happens all the time look what happen In the rittenhouse case all evidence of self defense and they tried him anyways and lost
Oh man, I grew up watching Law and Order as a kid both original, svu, and criminal intent. It is so fun going back and rewatching and recognizing actors that I’ve seen in recent films. I noticed the name Cheyenne Jackson and immediately thought of Hades and it took me a minute to recognize his voice instead of looking for blue hair. And they got the Penguin from Gotham!!
People like the mother are the worst kind of people. At least be upfront about your hatred and prejudice instead of hiding behind a facade of politeness and "tolerance".
Jumping out of a window worked better for in in season 2, when he was fleeing from Tabitha "Tigress" Galavan ^^ He was a slippery one in that show... gotta love Robin Lord Taylor. He was one of the 2 breakout stars of *Gotham* alongside Cameron Monaghan (who was already kinda famous thanks to *Shameless* , but it did give his career another boost). And like Robin Lord Taylor, he also played in Law & Order: SVU when he was younger...
LOL, I like how Lupo gets right in the geezer's face, like, "Yeah, I know some part of you wants to French me right now.", like he's directly challenging him and his twisted confusion.
I clicked on this one cause I thought it was Robin Taylor very happy I was right also find it ironic they had him playing a homophobe considering his sexuality wish he had more major roles so far he's appeared in a short scene in John wick, this episode, was in the movie would you rather and was a main character one Gotham honestly after Gotham you'd think he would have more major roles
1:52 God damn we were robbed of Lupo in the reboot lol. Such a great detective, someone who I could honestly say displays the same kind of characteristics I love in Briscoe (RIP).
So hol' up, what happened in this episode? Does it end with the gay guy killing his husband with his boyfriend and framing the homophobe? Does the homophobe get released?
Uh nope it ends with Cedric actually being guilty the whole Time and cutter being a total badass dude and threatening to have him sent to prison for back to back life sentences by the federal court system if he he did not plead guilty to the murder and not taking a deal of twenty five years to life in prison after finding out that he was also unfortunately a racist.
@@droganovic6879 ockham's razor. Often true in rl as well. Solid, consistent writing that's relatable is part of what's kept this show running for eternity!😉
@@capthappy8884 But Ockham’s razor is (almost) never true in Agatha Christie, which is why it’s loved so much. If you like mystery/detective, I highly recommend: 1) Death on the Nile (1979) 2) Witness for the Prosecution (1957) 3) Trial by Error episode of Murder She Wrote from season two (similar to 12 Angry Men)
@RLucas3000 yes. It's absence can make for more captivating storytelling. However, storytelling often ventures off the reality path for the sake of itself. This show attempts a realistic look at the process, so often the conclusions have the simplest thru lines. To make the 2nd act more engaging, they will sprinkle in aspects that could complicate the story. Most of the time, those things are shown to be just that, bc showing a wife murdered=the husband did it-story over(which is most often the case in reality) usually isn't the best way to draw viewers in and hold their attn. Therefore many artists try to avoid ockhams razor in storytelling at least on the surface. Your suggestions ARE noted!😊
Yes, it is Robin Lord Taylor. He seems specialize in weird little men with obsessive Mother complex. He make perfect Norman Bates in film remake except doesn't have look
"You're not wasting your time today." That is prejudicing the witness. He is implying that the killer is definitely in the lineup he is about to see. That's a no-no.
@@matthewforsyth284 Hmmmm. Now I'm wondering what made me think it was prejudicing the witness. I mean, they never do a lineup WITHOUT the person they suspect did the crime, right? Thanks for the correction, Matthew.
Someone literally made a comment about remembering that Robin Lord Taylor was in an episode on a video like a week ago and suddenly this gets uploaded. Looks like y'all read the comments 'round here lol
I really liked his mom reaction..when they arrested him🤣🤣🤣 like idk ant mother that would be ok with cops..asking about her kid..breaking into her house and then arresting him...without any solid proof.
I don’t know how I feel about the mother. Like, one might not like her reaction to if her son were actually gay, but the way she reacts when the gavel confirms his guilty verdict-she almost looks exactly like my mother and the timbre of her voice is pretty similar. And given the twist of this episode that Cedric didn’t have quite as much to do with it, it breaks my heart to see the character of the mother just cave into tears, the rush of fear that suddenly comes over you when you have to accept that you’ll now lose time with someone you care about, especially because we as the audience end up getting more context only after the trial. The short wail and the camera changing to show her distraught face was a punch in the gut, cuz (from the perspective of this character) it’s like she feels bad and perhaps guilty that her testimony is what landed her son a guilty verdict. A good mother wants nothing but the best for her child, to give them the best life possible, so for her the despair that washes over when she realizes her testimony essentially ripped away her son’s life; just imagine the guilt you’d feel if you were in her shoes and gave the testimony that the prosecution used to lock up your sibling/cousin/parent/friend/guardian/significant other. You’d probably feel some level of guilt even if it was completely out of your control, but it wouldn’t change how distraught you’d become. Regardless of one’s personal values, the pain of being separated from a dear friend/family member/loved one is a fear that any of us could know, so even though the actress played such a small role (especially given all the episodes of Law Order that exist), for a one off character she played a pretty impactful part imo.
Watching Law and Order court scenes is exhausting on the mind because of how messed up it is sometimes. But i love how it shows the expression or body language used. For instance, the mother is all smiley in hopes to be appear more kinder so people would view her as kind and not part of the fiasco. Personally, in a court room especially for a homicide case, i don't think someone would have the mental stability to genuinely smile, her smiley smile is short lived or to me seem a bit awkward. Hence concluding that... even though she may not be the killer, she is somewhat responsible for the horror.
2:15 oh no really?? you sure got defensive there, buddy. 2:53 wtf is the point of the lineup? everyone outside the house seen he had a gash on his face. 6:18 there it is. So whatever happened in the case?
they give you just enough in these clips to get you interested, & then leaving you hanging. I'm not signing up for anymore streaming services. these older episodes should be available for free.
@@samcaraballo6218 that's not true. Linus Roach gives a master class in acting in the near final scene. It seems Cutter's old mentor knew he'd completed the work for his Bachelor's, but never got his degree. The Innocence Project initially gets Cedric off, until Cutter finds out one of their witnesses' testimony was suspect. The mentor goes after Cutter's license, forcing an offer of 20 to life. Which Cutter is forced by Jack to accept, until Cedric calls Connie a "spic." After which Cutter loses his mind, telling his mentor to take his license so that not only can Cutter testify about Cedric's hate speech, he can then have Cedric prosecuted under the Matthew Shephard Act, which meant back-to-back life sentences. "You will die in jail" he tells Cedric, who tries to accept the original deal. "It's 25 or nothing", Cutter literally snarls. After being assured by the mentor that what Cutter says is true, Cedric says, "that guy's nuts, you know that?" And the mentor replies, "I know."
3:24-3:26-3:28-3:30-3:33 Ngl, not to sound sensitive since I've seen Law & Order before when I was both a kid and a pre-teen but that audio imo sure was disturbing-
I don't remember seeing this episode., jus this TH-cam Video Clip. The Plot of this reminds me of an Epiosde I saw recently on Reruns of The Closer which is set in LA. In that episode, a Gay Man is Murdered and his lover who claims he was there at the time of the attack, blames a Gay Basher that the Lover, I believe the Husband claims he was not able to get a good look at. It turned out that his lover- his Husband was planning to leave him for a Younger Man after several years of Marriage and the Husband killed his LOver- His Husband for trying to leave him. Sound like a Similiar Plot.
Loved how they point out the double-standard cis-het men have when it comes to homosexuality. If you pay close attention to many tv shows not specifically geared towards queer people, they always try to claim representation with a wlw couple, which don't get me wrong is definitely representation, but there is always hesitation or outright refusal to include a main mlm couple.
Oh no, he definitely did it. The twist was that he got the Innocence Project to find evidence that initially got the jury verdict set aside, but then Cutter found evidence that the Project's interns bribed a key defense witness, prompting the director to throw the ultimate curveball - that Cutter didn't have his law license because he technically didn't have a bachelor's degree. McCoy urged Cutter to offer a deal, during which the bad guy called Connie a "sp*c," which prompted Cutter to withdraw the manslaughter deal and gave him an ultimatum that he take a 25-year sentence or he would resign his post to testify to the hate speech he spewed in the conference and that he would then walk the case over to the US Attorney's office, where they could try - and likely convict him of hate crimes under the Matthew Shepard Act. The homophobe took the 25-year sentence. Cutter was ultimately reprimanded by the Bar, but kept his license.
Yeah he plays a lot of killers and psychos. I always wondered what it’s like getting type cast as those is like. Is it frustrating or mostly fun. Most actors say the villians are often the better and more enjoyable roles, and some find it cathartic to sort of let loose and be “evil” in productive way. Though shows like this usually go for the more subdued villians unless it’s parody story of a real life case. I can’t think of time he’s played a guy who wasn’t at least suspected of being evil outside of one hallmark Christmas movie I think I caught him in. Okay now I want a hallmark Christmas Romance movie where it’s too villians falling in love
extremely hard to take the IP woman seriously in this case--maybe the husband just had a boyfriend before all this, not shocking he would go to him for comfort or normalcy after the murder. maybe he was THEIR boyfriend. you're statistically more likely to find poly arrangements amongst queer people than cishet people.
I love how the prosecutor led the mother on and his closing sentence "You taught your son well". Brilliant.
Yeah, that was some sweet Kung fu
This is really ironic considering that the actor who's playing him is actually gay but the mother seems so disgusted seeing that he committed these crimes this whole episode is just ironic
Just like Neil Patrick Harris, plays a womanizer on TV but is gay and has a husband.
Thats penguin from the movie series Gotham
@@mikedawolf95 of course I know that Neil Patrick Harris is a lady's man everyone knows that from Harold and Kumar to how I met your mother
The mother wasn’t disgusted at that it was at the thought he son might be gay she was also homophobic
The mother wasn't disgusted by her son's crimes.
really brave of these detectives to arrest the penguin so quickly and not wait for batman to bring him in instead.
Ha!
he showed up again on Law and Order: Organized Crime as a master hacker.
I always thought it was make-up but I guess he just looks like that.
@@bored1caSebastian McClain.
😂😂
No "assault on a police officer" charges for the mother throwing the lamp?
There are times where getting a conviction no matter how justified would be difficult at best and mostly counterproductive. A mother protecting her child when no one got hurt would probably be one of those situations.
Also you can only fit so much on to an hour of television.
Waste of time.
The lamp missed. You can go with 'attempt of assault' but without cameras watching her, it would be hearsay and difficult to convict.
it was attempted
The lamp was a made guy and there was nothing they could do about it.
That lineup wouldn't be hard to get thrown out on account of the head wound, I think. It's easily visible and makes him stand out in the bunch. Could be argued as prejudicial.
Not to mention he was filmed and photographed being dragged out his house by the cops surrounded by a mob calling him gaybasher.
Just give everyone bandages 😆
"Could be argued" are weasel words. Your argument is pure speculation.
@@shane99ca Thats how the Law works dude.
@@ArmchairRizzard No, that is how shysters work.
I loved that he pissed Cutter off so much that he decided to make the deal from 20 to 25 😂😂
Cheyenne Jackson as Hades from the Descendants franchise and Robin Lord Taylor as the Penguin in Gotham are both In this scene!
Thank you. I could not figure out where Id seen the blonde kid before
There is a BOATLOAD of special guest stars!!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@@carinacelestia Was also briefly in The Walking Dead
@@JamieDabrowiecki I’ve never seen walking dead but if I do I’ll keep an eye out for him.
And they’re both gay in real life
It's hard to watch this show sometimes when you practice law. For instance him being charged on that lineup alone is unrealistic and would never be admissible. There's not only a fresh head wound separating him from the rest of the lineup but it's a high profile case and he was filmed being taken from his home so his image wouldve been everywhere before the ID was made. Still love the suspense and the plot twists. One of my favorite shows of all time.
To be fair the cut was caused by the window, so that itself wouldn’t be a good indicator.
@@timothyhannon4078 no but you'd have to compile a lineup of that has at least 2-3 people with fresh, visible wounds to even allow the initial ID to stick. Any lawyer could get it thrown out on that alone. Then you'd have to deal with the fact of him being televised causing reasonable doubt in the authenticity of the identification just to even maybe use that in your prosecution.
I agree. Such a lineup would probably be more prejudicial than probative.
You can't have one specific individual substantially stick out from the other five individuals.
This is also why courts won't allow lineup evidence in in which the suspect was identified by being the lone black guy out of a group of five other white guys.
I appreciate your comment but you know as well as I do movies and tv are entertainment. L&O aims for a sense of realism, but it's not reality.
@@refinedsugar Yes, we all know that. Jacob's point was that IN REAL LIFE things would not happen that way.
And I think that was obvious to most of us. Apparently not to all of us.
Did that mom unironically try to hit police detectives with the "he didn du nuthin" line? Also did that dude try to jump out of the second floor window????
3rd floor i think they said xD
@@Hatecrewdethrol ...not the sharpest tool in the shed...
Wondering if mom gets arrested for assaulting the detectives?
@@grss1982 nah. She didn't hit them and she was in hysterics.
Most mother’s in that kind of situation always pull the “he didn’t do nothin’” line. Look at practically anyone that gets arrested or killed by police. It’s the go-to line, even when they convicted felons that have committed tons of crimes and have been caught red-handed even.
Poor Mom... she walked right into that one. "Hi there! Can you stand on that bullseye over there, under that suspended safe?"
Love this episode. Amy Madigan was incredible, this was probably Linus Roache's finest hour on the show and the twist in the episode was unexpected and awesome
I love it when they stumble into the teams trap to get them to confess
but he didnt even do it
It wasnt even a confession lmao
@@lildad559 it was an action that could be used against him in court, by showing that he and his parental figure both have shitty personalities. Relating to the character of the individual.
Ah yes, the hang thyself tactic. Yes, that is the actual name for those moments.
It's funny that the mother considers herself a good role model for her son, even though she literally attacked a detective 💀💀
Fight or flight, just mothers instincts -
I can only imagine the world in her head being flipped faster than she can comprehend
You see your own flesh and blood, the child you raised being pinned and bleeding - regardless of the damage he just did in the house and running
Your first act is do SOMETHING
Yell scream- of all the things that come to mind that makes sense of the situation, this is the one most clear
Would you be able to be so calm?
Hindsight makes the “what if” easy for us, but in the moment of shock of falling dominos, would you really stand there and do nothing?
@@mysticdragonwolf89 In this case, her son did something wrong, she is harboring a fugitive. Then when the police are trying to arrest her son, she threw objects at them. No one in their right mind would attempt this. Her son is still going to jail and she is at risk of being charged with assault on an officer. She knows that her child did something wrong, yet still blindly defends him, it isn't "motherly instincts", stop trying to justify the actions of a mother ignoring the faults of a grown person who should take accountability for his own actions.
@@mysticdragonwolf89 translation: she’s a thug just like him and because she’s a woman and Caucasian we give her a pass.
just wait till your a mom there is a reason they are compaired to moma bears.
@@eunhastolemyheart6098 boy didnt do it. find it how ever you want just because we dont like something does not mean we want you dead. the gay guys ex did it.
I lived across the street from where the opening scene was shot, 176th Street by the Hudson River... November 2009... watched the entire scene filmed
He was later found to be in possession of several unlicensed umbrellas. Wah wah wah.
And later on during a Zombie Apocalypse he got hit in the head and bled like a pig....
Clearly a reference to the iconic Dc hero, Detective Chimp
Oh, very cute and appropriate about unlicensed umbrella😃😅🤣
3:16
Dude may have been on the wrong side of this, but ironically irl he'd be totally right. A line up identification where the suspects arrest was shown on TV, and where the suspect is the only one with identifiable wounds just wouldn't hold up.
That ending scene between Michael Cutter and the defendant gave me chills, easily one of the best episode in season 20
So what happened at the end of the episode? Was he really guilty???
@@lovablelillypup2499 oh he's guilty, absolutely guilty.
@@mitawidyastuti6181 Then what happened with the husband at the end??? Was he cheating and his husband happened to die? What’s all that about?
This episode just shows that they should do a whole lot more investigation before they arrest and try someone. It seems too easy to get someone convicted on circumstantial evidence.
Too bad in real life this happens all the time look what happen In the rittenhouse case all evidence of self defense and they tried him anyways and lost
What happens?
did he not do it?
Coming from a woman that is something
@@Erika-ox3tq he did do it as a matter of fact cutter has one of the best scenes in this episode
Oh man, I grew up watching Law and Order as a kid both original, svu, and criminal intent. It is so fun going back and rewatching and recognizing actors that I’ve seen in recent films. I noticed the name Cheyenne Jackson and immediately thought of Hades and it took me a minute to recognize his voice instead of looking for blue hair. And they got the Penguin from Gotham!!
They should add more courtroom scenes from this season. Michael Cutter was going crazy in the courtroom
His college mentor Professor Ryan made his life a living hell.
Ooh, I didn't know he paid rent and bought groceries. Not guilty then!
People like the mother are the worst kind of people. At least be upfront about your hatred and prejudice instead of hiding behind a facade of politeness and "tolerance".
Hell, that's most of people in USA, so that part very believable. I work with certain people daily who I know hate my guts
@@paulhunter6742 and they all vote Democrat
she is just following the christian playbook
When you are forced into tolerance. This is generally the outcome.
She protecting her kid
I love rewatching old L&O episodes and recognizing actors from more recent shows.
I love Cedric’s face after his mom just revealed she was the one who influenced him to be homophobic.
He’s like “you just screwed me over”.
The mom: saying she didn’t raise a son to be homophobic
Also the mom: ‘he’s not a sissy’
Those remarks don't contradict each other.
@@Nepthu yes they do, she wants to instil values of respect yet uses a slur? That’s not how you raise a child to not be homophobic
@@Nepthu yes they do. Youre just homophobic AND upset today's society is isolating you instead of "the gays" :)
@Elly H huh I remember when Sissy just meant you were weak or a wuss now it's a slur for gay.
@@ellyh2247 since when does being called a sissy have anything to do with being gay. It means to be a wuss🙄.
Wait... the fella that try to jump through the window is Pengiun from the series GOTHAM?yes its him
It gets better when you realize Jeremy Sisto once voiced Batman.
Jumping out of a window worked better for in in season 2, when he was fleeing from Tabitha "Tigress" Galavan ^^
He was a slippery one in that show... gotta love Robin Lord Taylor.
He was one of the 2 breakout stars of *Gotham* alongside Cameron Monaghan (who was already kinda famous thanks to *Shameless* , but it did give his career another boost).
And like Robin Lord Taylor, he also played in Law & Order: SVU when he was younger...
Just after they arrested him the TH-cam adverts started and I was like
“Oh that’s quite a short and simple episode!”
The way she says "how dare you", such a NY accent, so good
I need this episode 😫 The writing seems good gives me old L&O vibes.
I need it too!!!
LOL, I like how Lupo gets right in the geezer's face, like, "Yeah, I know some part of you wants to French me right now.", like he's directly challenging him and his twisted confusion.
Do you know what geezer means?
Yeah geezer like a old man.
Batman's father is trying the Penguin for a hate crime.
😂
Didn't 12 Angry Men talk about how most people can barely remember what they did a week ago?
Even as I was watching this I thought, "Wow. They're sure rushing this through! And all on ONE witness?"
Ah Penguin,what did you do this time?
Waddling while avian?
I clicked on this one cause I thought it was Robin Taylor very happy I was right also find it ironic they had him playing a homophobe considering his sexuality wish he had more major roles so far he's appeared in a short scene in John wick, this episode, was in the movie would you rather and was a main character one Gotham honestly after Gotham you'd think he would have more major roles
Was also in that Justin Long movie I think the title was Unaccepted
@@brookswilliams5239 that’s what I saw him in
6:11 people who are as bigoted and homophobic as the mother, that’s disgusting.
Robin Lord Taylor's a really good actor. I remember him being in this episode. He's also on L&O Organised Crime as Seb Maclane
this episode was really fucked up. It was the episode that made me respect Cutter as an ADA.
Yes his scene where he goes off on the defendant is his best one personally I liked cutter gets too much hate same with Anthony Anderson’s character
Cheyenne Jackson and Robin Lord Taylor would both play iconic DC characters years later.
Indeed. It seems anytime an actor portrays somebody in Law and Order they eventually go to DC Comics. I actually like that to be honest.
Who
1:52 God damn we were robbed of Lupo in the reboot lol. Such a great detective, someone who I could honestly say displays the same kind of characteristics I love in Briscoe (RIP).
Not to mention a sight for the eyes😅 well at least mine
Bro they were legit breathing on this guys neck when they were interrogating him 😂
Penguin finally get lock up.. lmfao
So hol' up, what happened in this episode?
Does it end with the gay guy killing his husband with his boyfriend and framing the homophobe? Does the homophobe get released?
Uh nope it ends with Cedric actually being guilty the whole Time and cutter being a total badass dude and threatening to have him sent to prison for back to back life sentences by the federal court system if he he did not plead guilty to the murder and not taking a deal of twenty five years to life in prison after finding out that he was also unfortunately a racist.
@@matthewforsyth284 thank you for the synopsis! Sometimes the simplest conclusion to these things turns out to be the actual answer!
@@droganovic6879 ockham's razor. Often true in rl as well. Solid, consistent writing that's relatable is part of what's kept this show running for eternity!😉
@@capthappy8884 But Ockham’s razor is (almost) never true in Agatha Christie, which is why it’s loved so much.
If you like mystery/detective, I highly recommend:
1) Death on the Nile (1979)
2) Witness for the Prosecution (1957)
3) Trial by Error episode of Murder She Wrote from season two (similar to 12 Angry Men)
@RLucas3000 yes. It's absence can make for more captivating storytelling. However, storytelling often ventures off the reality path for the sake of itself.
This show attempts a realistic look at the process, so often the conclusions have the simplest thru lines. To make the 2nd act more engaging, they will sprinkle in aspects that could complicate the story. Most of the time, those things are shown to be just that, bc showing a wife murdered=the husband did it-story over(which is most often the case in reality) usually isn't the best way to draw viewers in and hold their attn. Therefore many artists try to avoid ockhams razor in storytelling at least on the surface.
Your suggestions ARE noted!😊
They absolutely CANNOT push past you on your private residence like that unless they have an arrest warrant!
I love Robin Lord Taylor; he's what sold me on Gotham when he played my second favorite version of the Penguin (behind Danny, of course).
Isn't that the Penguin from Gotham? I really like him as an actor.
It's him.
Yes, it is Robin Lord Taylor. He seems specialize in weird little men with obsessive Mother complex. He make perfect Norman Bates in film remake except doesn't have look
5:25 this shot made me think that the blond guy looked like the penguin from the Gotham show.
It is him
Hey it’s The Penguin, we’re saved!!!!
"You're not wasting your time today."
That is prejudicing the witness. He is implying that the killer is definitely in the lineup he is about to see. That's a no-no.
Uh no it’s not serrentino was there at the crime scene and cutter didn’t mention cedrics name or face you do know that right!?
@@matthewforsyth284 Hmmmm. Now I'm wondering what made me think it was prejudicing the witness. I mean, they never do a lineup WITHOUT the person they suspect did the crime, right?
Thanks for the correction, Matthew.
Awe your welcome man.
Someone literally made a comment about remembering that Robin Lord Taylor was in an episode on a video like a week ago and suddenly this gets uploaded. Looks like y'all read the comments 'round here lol
I was pretty sure this video was already uploaded. I only watch L&O through this TH-cam channel. So I’m confused. Lol
I really liked his mom reaction..when they arrested him🤣🤣🤣 like idk ant mother that would be ok with cops..asking about her kid..breaking into her house and then arresting him...without any solid proof.
😂😂The penguin from Gotham
Is Ana Chlumsky, from the movie, My Girl, with a young McCauley Culkin playing the part of the mom?
Robin Lord Taylor did great playing as Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepot in the show GOTHAM.
I don’t know how I feel about the mother. Like, one might not like her reaction to if her son were actually gay, but the way she reacts when the gavel confirms his guilty verdict-she almost looks exactly like my mother and the timbre of her voice is pretty similar. And given the twist of this episode that Cedric didn’t have quite as much to do with it, it breaks my heart to see the character of the mother just cave into tears, the rush of fear that suddenly comes over you when you have to accept that you’ll now lose time with someone you care about, especially because we as the audience end up getting more context only after the trial. The short wail and the camera changing to show her distraught face was a punch in the gut, cuz (from the perspective of this character) it’s like she feels bad and perhaps guilty that her testimony is what landed her son a guilty verdict. A good mother wants nothing but the best for her child, to give them the best life possible, so for her the despair that washes over when she realizes her testimony essentially ripped away her son’s life; just imagine the guilt you’d feel if you were in her shoes and gave the testimony that the prosecution used to lock up your sibling/cousin/parent/friend/guardian/significant other. You’d probably feel some level of guilt even if it was completely out of your control, but it wouldn’t change how distraught you’d become.
Regardless of one’s personal values, the pain of being separated from a dear friend/family member/loved one is a fear that any of us could know, so even though the actress played such a small role (especially given all the episodes of Law Order that exist), for a one off character she played a pretty impactful part imo.
Wait, is Cedric the same actor from the show 'Gotham' (the Penguin)?
What do you think? ^^' Gee, if only we could google these things...
@@randallflagg3700 Stephen King hates you, BTW. ;)
@@MrUndersolo - He does? :'(
Thomas Wayne was a hell of a lawyer 😂
robin lord taylor plays someone on organized crime as well
Is that the guy who plays The Penguin in Gotham? It's bugging me watching this entire thing
It is him Robin Lord Taylor
THANK GOD ROBIN FINALLY GOT ON THIS SHOW (I lowkey wish it was SVU)
He was on an episode of SVU.
He also appeared on Organized Crime.
He usually plays as the vigilante in all his rolls.
what would've been interesting is if the culprit was the guy who accused Stuber and only tried to push the blame just for an agenda
Where's the next one, I'm always trying to look for the next video
Watching Law and Order court scenes is exhausting on the mind because of how messed up it is sometimes. But i love how it shows the expression or body language used. For instance, the mother is all smiley in hopes to be appear more kinder so people would view her as kind and not part of the fiasco. Personally, in a court room especially for a homicide case, i don't think someone would have the mental stability to genuinely smile, her smiley smile is short lived or to me seem a bit awkward. Hence concluding that... even though she may not be the killer, she is somewhat responsible for the horror.
Anyone notice this? The guy who played Cedric would go on to play Oswald in Gotham. Recognized his face almost immediately.
2:15 oh no really?? you sure got defensive there, buddy. 2:53 wtf is the point of the lineup? everyone outside the house seen he had a gash on his face. 6:18 there it is. So whatever happened in the case?
The Blonde guy in the green hoodie. Does he play Penguin in the Gotham series?
Yes
@@andycavanaugh1219 😄Thought so.
She DID fill his head with that nonsense. Where else would he get it?. Homophobia is TAUGHT.
Can someone please explain what happened in this episode!
they give you just enough in these clips to get you interested, & then leaving you hanging. I'm not signing up for anymore streaming services. these older episodes should be available for free.
the guy murdered his husband the kid is innocent he's released
@@samcaraballo6218 that's not true. Linus Roach gives a master class in acting in the near final scene. It seems Cutter's old mentor knew he'd completed the work for his Bachelor's, but never got his degree. The Innocence Project initially gets Cedric off, until Cutter finds out one of their witnesses' testimony was suspect. The mentor goes after Cutter's license, forcing an offer of 20 to life. Which Cutter is forced by Jack to accept, until Cedric calls Connie a "spic." After which Cutter loses his mind, telling his mentor to take his license so that not only can Cutter testify about Cedric's hate speech, he can then have Cedric prosecuted under the Matthew Shephard Act, which meant back-to-back life sentences. "You will die in jail" he tells Cedric, who tries to accept the original deal. "It's 25 or nothing", Cutter literally snarls. After being assured by the mentor that what Cutter says is true, Cedric says, "that guy's nuts, you know that?" And the mentor replies, "I know."
Alyssa Bresnahan as Moira Stuber is looking VERY good here IMO. Kudos.
What is this episode called??
LOL penguin got so mad ed rejected him so he tried to kill ed but killed the wrong dude
OMG THATS PENGUIN from Gotham, Robin Lord Taylor
Wow he's been on law & order twice.
Its the Penguin from Gotham!
3:24-3:26-3:28-3:30-3:33
Ngl, not to sound sensitive since I've seen Law & Order before when I was both a kid and a pre-teen but that audio imo sure was disturbing-
I don't remember seeing this episode., jus this TH-cam Video Clip. The Plot of this reminds me of an Epiosde I saw recently on Reruns of The Closer which is set in LA. In that episode, a Gay Man is Murdered and his lover who claims he was there at the time of the attack, blames a Gay Basher that the Lover, I believe the Husband claims he was not able to get a good look at. It turned out that his lover- his Husband was planning to leave him for a Younger Man after several years of Marriage and the Husband killed his LOver- His Husband for trying to leave him. Sound like a Similiar Plot.
Loved how they point out the double-standard cis-het men have when it comes to homosexuality. If you pay close attention to many tv shows not specifically geared towards queer people, they always try to claim representation with a wlw couple, which don't get me wrong is definitely representation, but there is always hesitation or outright refusal to include a main mlm couple.
is that Abernathy Darwin Dunlap?
Wasn't the realtor a coroner in the dogfight finger episode?
What episode is this called?
And what season is it?
Its in the description
Yeah, he's quick to answer he's lying
I thought this was a NBC show 😭😭😭 he literally say "f@g" uncensored
Ooh, so the twist here is the homophobe didn't do the crime!
...or is it?
Oh no, he definitely did it. The twist was that he got the Innocence Project to find evidence that initially got the jury verdict set aside, but then Cutter found evidence that the Project's interns bribed a key defense witness, prompting the director to throw the ultimate curveball - that Cutter didn't have his law license because he technically didn't have a bachelor's degree. McCoy urged Cutter to offer a deal, during which the bad guy called Connie a "sp*c," which prompted Cutter to withdraw the manslaughter deal and gave him an ultimatum that he take a 25-year sentence or he would resign his post to testify to the hate speech he spewed in the conference and that he would then walk the case over to the US Attorney's office, where they could try - and likely convict him of hate crimes under the Matthew Shepard Act. The homophobe took the 25-year sentence. Cutter was ultimately reprimanded by the Bar, but kept his license.
Nope, he did.
@@aaronburgin1442 Daaannng... man, I missed *out* on old Law and Order.
@@aaronburgin1442 and by that he means cutter threatened Cedric with back to back life sentencesif he didn’t take the deal.
This show is so great. How can this be called shitty.
There were few things O @ L cast did which in reality would gotten case thrown out of court.
Cheyenne also played Hades mals dad on the descendents
6:30 -- Way to go mom...
Is that the dude from law and order organized crime
1:26 My Girl!
3:03 There's the real killer. He's got the face of a killer.
Yeah he plays a lot of killers and psychos. I always wondered what it’s like getting type cast as those is like. Is it frustrating or mostly fun. Most actors say the villians are often the better and more enjoyable roles, and some find it cathartic to sort of let loose and be “evil” in productive way. Though shows like this usually go for the more subdued villians unless it’s parody story of a real life case. I can’t think of time he’s played a guy who wasn’t at least suspected of being evil outside of one hallmark Christmas movie I think I caught him in. Okay now I want a hallmark Christmas Romance movie where it’s too villians falling in love
i get the feeling that the son and mother are more than just normal family if you know what i mean
I come here for the comments lol
Nice video
No lo podes subtitular. Seria mejor gracias
extremely hard to take the IP woman seriously in this case--maybe the husband just had a boyfriend before all this, not shocking he would go to him for comfort or normalcy after the murder. maybe he was THEIR boyfriend. you're statistically more likely to find poly arrangements amongst queer people than cishet people.
Poor penquin, can never find himself on the right side of the law. 😂
he looks like he did before when he was on the walking dead
Who was the real killer?
Poor Oswald
The guy who is the criminal was even on one order SVU involved in some sort of party problem and he played penguin in Gotham