One thing i have to praise this SuperSix Evo is how they treat size small varient. Generally, due to limitation of 700c wheelsize, size S and XS usually have to compromise on the front end geometry. Which result in higher trail value (small bike handle more sluggish than larger size). Just giving two examples for reference: Specialized Tarmac size 52 and up have trail value around 58mm but their size 49 have trail value=63mm. So, smallest size that have uncompromised handling is 52. This is already better than average. Giant TCR XS (~49) has trail value=70mm, size S (~52) has trail value=60mm then all larger size (M and up) have trail value=58mm. Now, SuperSix Evo 2020, All size from 48 and up (44 excluded) has trail value=58mm. They manage this with dedicated high offset fork for small sizes. So, for size around 48, this SS Evo simply handle the best of the bunch.
What make Specialized Tarmac and Allez Sprint sells better than Supersix and CAAD in the recent years was the killer paint job. Limited run of many gorgeous color scheme frame set that is only available while supply last, before they release the new colors again. Now, look at the entire Supersix, CAAD and Systemsix (build or frameset) how many color schemes do you like?
The dollars behind sponsoring Peter Sagan, JA, and other top pros is what makes Specialized a top seller. The Tarmac and Venge are wonderful, but the Specialized race/marketing budget dwarfs that of Cannondale.
@@richardh7774 Haha, right? People don't like the wires/cables wrecking their aero game man. I reckon Force AXS is going to be extremely popular this year. Its what will be on my next ride.
I would also add that I have to drive an hour to find a Cannondale dealer, where Specialized has one just up the road from me. Factor in better-looking paint on the Speshy, better component spec for the price on the Speshy, and guess which one I ended up with?
@Pete is never wrong True... I've been fan of Spesh and Cannondale since couple of decades but after damage those companies doing to the market I've excuse myself with REAL brand like Giant and invest in no fuss and shut free TCR. Shame on you Cannondale.
@Pete is never wrong Yes... for "bang for bucks" I'll go one rim and one disc brake for shirty weather. Still be some money left without headache that I'm cycling inferior machine :).
You forgot to mention that you have to activate the power meter to get the data, unless they have stopped doing that now and it can be used straight away.
I see it as an improvement. In the past, they have been a bit over the top. I had 2013 and I was reluctant to buy it at first because it had so many stickers and colors. I did get accustomed to it and it became a beautiful bike to me. It broke my heart to sell it when I bought my new one early this year.
I love Cannondale bikes and was highly impressed when I rented a CAAD12 for a week, but I'm put off by the BB and headset stories of woe and living with it long term, especially being a rider than easily clears 20,000kms a year.
@@Cortes19882012 But that's the problem, buy a bike and then spend more time and money on it afterwards. Not only the cost of the BB, but buying the tools or taking it to a bike shop. Repairing a new bike because it hasn't been designed properly is well just daft.
Plant Fuelled That’s understandable. Im a bike mechanic myself. I build mine from scratch meaning no BB inside the frame. If Cannondale would have partner up with BBinfinite or Ceramicspeed, this BB problem would have been solved.
This is a disc-brake bike, so not really apples-to-apples comparison. The rim-brake version is at least half a kilo lighter. That said, it does seem weight is not the primary focus for bike industry these days. Thankfully you can still get ultra-light builds with some models.
@@michaltoman2805 "That said, it does seem weight is not the primary focus for bike industry these days" - Draining braindead "too much money" amateurs pockets is
On a climbing bike weight should be the main focus. And is. That's why Team Sky rode non-sponsor-correct Lightweight wheels at this year's Tdf. Michal Toman you're a noob
lots of details I would like to know that you did not cover. I have an older SuperSix and it biggest flaw for me is the lack of tire clearance in the rear stays.. 23mm is about all that fits without risking rubbing on hard efforts. What about this new model? can you run 25mm, 28mm even 30mm tubeless?
Can anybody please explain the difference between all the lineup on the Supersix evo all model? Pleasee i just need to know the differences so that i can purchase the right one :))
Cannot believe you mentioned value at 6500 with Ultegra Di2 without the power meter even connected. Canyon Ultimate with power ready Sram Red AXS for same price.
I think weight is only a small part to consider in a bike this build, for me at 63 kg , it wont matter as much as someone say 75-80 kg. its a factor ,but ride quality, stiffness etc would be more of a concern to me
@@Kaoori97 you missed the point. was trying to say when you buy a bike that costs a lot of money ,there is loads of things to consider and something that weighs half a kg, more than another might not be the right bike for you.
@@robertdaxner7890 for 6500 you can buy a full aero bike like the venge which weight probably the same, and considering this is the second a climbing bike which is not far from the top of the range...
Ya, as a true service to people who will be spending money, they never mentioned wheel alignment issues which was a complaint, headset looseness, creaking seatpost, it's just all to happy with no issues to watch for. How false.
Izlaco max disc 9.7 is way better option. Lighter, more aero, better handling, etc after riding evo was a massive let down. Stack and reach just dont make this aero , unless you like riding in MTB positions
@@DaveCM you're right. For some reason Focus has a very poor distribution for the Izalco. Even in non euro countries where there are dealers, there isn't much promotion of the bike, nor sufficient stock. Cant fathom why they'd make such a great bike but fail on distribution- unless their plan is to focus more on MTBs???
@@carlstatham594 ??? No, did test with my mate who is same weight on his new aero madone £6k , I was significantly faster ... could be wheel /bearings ?
That right. They destroyed the Cannondale supersix heritage and went with the copycat cookie cutter frame that every company been using. They made it into a even more heavier frameset than some other companies, which made no sense as the supersix was the hallmark for lightweight weenies. Last hope is that Trek wont do the same for their prestige Emonda.
No, cannondale exactly copied the crowd with drop stays. They were the last hold out against compact geometry. They can say they did it for a reason but they were against it until they had to give in. It would be better to admit it.
Is anyone else tired of the truncated airfoil shape talks? Before this is was Kammtail shape, aren't they the same? It's safe to assume all bikes will have these shapes going forward until someone "debunks" the shape as inefficient to usher in the latest fad.
The 3:1 ratio for tubes is a UCI ruling for frame design. Bike comapnies changed designs to comply. Many now use a 4:1 ratio but cut "truncate" the last trailing 1/4 of the oval to achieve a 3:1 ratio. This meets the regulation but also creates a more aero shape than a complete 3:1 oval profile.
The cycling community is full of hypocrites, they always want there bikes to be faster, but when one thing works really well and has basically no downside and all the brands start to use it(dropped seat stays) they hate it.
TERRIBLE! You won’t need any device to tell you when to service their bikes because you won’t stop going back to the dealer with creaking problems. In effect, everyday will be a service day!
Stylish Riding / Bought the new 2020 Cannondale Synapse in December. Started off taking back to dealer for a creak no one could fine. I bought a new seat and seat post. My new bike was in the shop all the time for silly stuff like rear now working correctly. The problem was actually the seat clamp. I discovered that in April by accident. The creaking problems have gone away hopefully they stay gone.
The only thing on this bike that's innovative is Di2. Since this channel or any other western based channel wont cover the explosion of innovative companies from China then we are left to assume this bike and its price tag are somehow worth it. You would be completely wrong assuming that, and there are about 5 Chinese brands that will sell you a bike that's similar for under 1,500 bucks. Until the cycling community comes to grips with a T1100 frame is a T1100 frame no matter who makes it then its comical when someone says they purchased a 5 to 10k bike that only cost 1.500 dollars.
How do you two not know that the power meter is total BS? the buyer of this BS bike needs to pay an additional $400-600 just to activate it. Honestly, how do you not know this?
it's not BS - it's been covered ad nauseam - the $500 is roughly what a good meter costs anyway. It's more effective cost wise to include them at a bulk purchase price and charge for activation than go through the current mess of supplying spare cranks to Power meter companies. Put your toys back in the pram ffs.
@@lassefk3171 Most anyone who uses data in their training. Using just GPS isn't going to be as accurate. There will be times when it cuts out momentarily. It is also effected by gradient. I've been grinding up a steep climb and have see my Garmin or Wahoo auto pause because it thinks I'm not moving. Most everyone I ride with has sensors in addition to the GPS
Copy every company's shape and call it the 'new' thing.. Cannondale is 3 years too late into this so call 'new shape' lol... should of stick to their routes and went with a new supersix with lighter material and kept the old shape that everyone loved. The weightweenies could of use the older traditional style with even newer carbon layout for even lighter frameset. This 'new supersix' should of been called something else as a bridge between the synapse/supersix to the all out aero systemsix. So far talking to all the old cannondale lovers all dislike this move and the new supersix. So glad i bought a tarmac sworks instead of waiting for the new supersix. I was about to regret my decision as I bought the sworks first at a good discount then was thinking 'what if my favorite supersix going be new and awesome' but no worries cannondale didnt make that happen and i was happy to get a sworks in a discount haha
One thing i have to praise this SuperSix Evo is how they treat size small varient.
Generally, due to limitation of 700c wheelsize, size S and XS usually have to compromise on the front end geometry. Which result in higher trail value (small bike handle more sluggish than larger size).
Just giving two examples for reference:
Specialized Tarmac size 52 and up have trail value around 58mm but their size 49 have trail value=63mm. So, smallest size that have uncompromised handling is 52. This is already better than average.
Giant TCR XS (~49) has trail value=70mm, size S (~52) has trail value=60mm then all larger size (M and up) have trail value=58mm.
Now, SuperSix Evo 2020,
All size from 48 and up (44 excluded) has trail value=58mm. They manage this with dedicated high offset fork for small sizes. So, for size around 48, this SS Evo simply handle the best of the bunch.
Most complete all round road bike now. And more than anything it is the best handling bike ever. Always has been. Still is.
What make Specialized Tarmac and Allez Sprint sells better than Supersix and CAAD in the recent years was the killer paint job. Limited run of many gorgeous color scheme frame set that is only available while supply last, before they release the new colors again.
Now, look at the entire Supersix, CAAD and Systemsix (build or frameset) how many color schemes do you like?
@RakeRocter Agreed. They have all the visual appeal of a Soviet apartment block.
The Force AXS build, it’s on backorder ;(
The dollars behind sponsoring Peter Sagan, JA, and other top pros is what makes Specialized a top seller. The Tarmac and Venge are wonderful, but the Specialized race/marketing budget dwarfs that of Cannondale.
@@richardh7774 Haha, right? People don't like the wires/cables wrecking their aero game man. I reckon Force AXS is going to be extremely popular this year. Its what will be on my next ride.
I would also add that I have to drive an hour to find a Cannondale dealer, where Specialized has one just up the road from me. Factor in better-looking paint on the Speshy, better component spec for the price on the Speshy, and guess which one I ended up with?
Lads, you really earned the commission with this one 😅🤣🤣
@Pete is never wrong He is right and you seems to be poor man here.
@Pete is never wrong Done and dusted :).
@Pete is never wrong True... I've been fan of Spesh and Cannondale since couple of decades but after damage those companies doing to the market I've excuse myself with REAL brand like Giant and invest in no fuss and shut free TCR. Shame on you Cannondale.
@Pete is never wrong Yes... for "bang for bucks" I'll go one rim and one disc brake for shirty weather. Still be some money left without headache that I'm cycling inferior machine :).
@Pete is never wrong If you're Pete I know that you're never wrong so have to agree :)
You forgot to mention that you have to activate the power meter to get the data, unless they have stopped doing that now and it can be used straight away.
want to buy the hi mod as frame only, but only available in the trade team colour. come on cannondale.
They make it in a "champagne" color too. Although I'm not a big fan of that one either.
The paint job and graphics need improving tho
I see it as an improvement. In the past, they have been a bit over the top. I had 2013 and I was reluctant to buy it at first because it had so many stickers and colors. I did get accustomed to it and it became a beautiful bike to me. It broke my heart to sell it when I bought my new one early this year.
It is indeed improved, your taste might be just 1% of the population
Definitely. Looks like it belongs in a harbour
Finally!! Lol......I've been waiting on a review on this bike..Now where is my wine🚴🍷?
Evo went Emo the black and gray will make you stay with these razor sharp looks.., all you need is a diary to record your daily routines..
I love Cannondale bikes and was highly impressed when I rented a CAAD12 for a week, but I'm put off by the BB and headset stories of woe and living with it long term, especially being a rider than easily clears 20,000kms a year.
Plant Fuelled I have The CAAD12. The BB can easily be replaced with a BBinfinite bottom bracket. I never had problems with the headset.
@@Cortes19882012 But that's the problem, buy a bike and then spend more time and money on it afterwards. Not only the cost of the BB, but buying the tools or taking it to a bike shop. Repairing a new bike because it hasn't been designed properly is well just daft.
Plant Fuelled That’s understandable. Im a bike mechanic myself. I build mine from scratch meaning no BB inside the frame. If Cannondale would have partner up with BBinfinite or Ceramicspeed, this BB problem would have been solved.
I have a caad12 nd a supersix evo 2017, none of these problems yet
What's the difference between the Supersix Evo and the Supersix Evo Hi-Mod? Are they two different bikes?
@@travo621 Nope, it's the type of carbon fiber used
209 g
James Bracey - slick as ever son
Nice but 1kg heavier than my 2014 Supersix Evo Hi Mod!. How much aero gain going up a 15% gradient?, think I prefer to save 1kg.
This is a disc-brake bike, so not really apples-to-apples comparison. The rim-brake version is at least half a kilo lighter. That said, it does seem weight is not the primary focus for bike industry these days. Thankfully you can still get ultra-light builds with some models.
@@michaltoman2805 unfortunately there isn't a HiMod - non disc version available to the public.
@@michaltoman2805 "That said, it does seem weight is not the primary focus for bike industry these days"
- Draining braindead "too much money" amateurs pockets is
On a climbing bike weight should be the main focus. And is. That's why Team Sky rode non-sponsor-correct Lightweight wheels at this year's Tdf. Michal Toman you're a noob
you'd make that 1kg saving up on the descent.
lots of details I would like to know that you did not cover. I have an older SuperSix and it biggest flaw for me is the lack of tire clearance in the rear stays.. 23mm is about all that fits without risking rubbing on hard efforts. What about this new model? can you run 25mm, 28mm even 30mm tubeless?
I have one, comes stock with 28mm Vittoria Corsas
He mentioned they all come with a power meter crank but failed to mention you have to pay to unlock it to use it. Very dumb idea. Cannondale you suck.
So they made it more aero but shortened it and increased the stack height yeah.
Higher stack is a good thing
How fast would i be able to go with this compared to a standard MTB?
Twice as fast
it's amazing how many people have an opinion having never ridden one...
You don`t need to ride it and have PhD in marketing to tell how absurd all that stuff in bike industry become.
Does the bike have a kickstand?
why in this model there isn't specific showing that the frame is hi-mod?
I have this bike, all I can say is really good for a newbie like me. Race bike performance but comfortable at the same time .
Yh newbies should spend £6500 on a bike.... Lol.
Well done review.
Can anybody please explain the difference between all the lineup on the Supersix evo all model? Pleasee i just need to know the differences so that i can purchase the right one :))
Best review on TH-cam of this model 👍
Stop advertising, you troll.
Cannot believe you mentioned value at 6500 with Ultegra Di2 without the power meter even connected. Canyon Ultimate with power ready Sram Red AXS for same price.
There is nothing like "carpet ride" on any carbon bikes, besides TIME bikes : )
Time are total noodles.
Aero is more hype than anything.
super nice! ring the bell
Should we be concerned that there are no chairs?
Not a patch on a TCR.
That's a lot of quality bike for $6500!!!
Weight?
7.6kg
I think weight is only a small part to consider in a bike this build, for me at 63 kg , it wont matter as much as someone say 75-80 kg. its a factor ,but ride quality, stiffness etc would be more of a concern to me
@@robertdaxner7890 so lets ride 10kg bikes which cost 10k
@@Kaoori97 you missed the point. was trying to say when you buy a bike that costs a lot of money ,there is loads of things to consider and something that weighs half a kg, more than another might not be the right bike for you.
@@robertdaxner7890 for 6500 you can buy a full aero bike like the venge which weight probably the same, and considering this is the second a climbing bike which is not far from the top of the range...
They're absolutely gushing about the bike, like they were paid.
This video is a joke. Zero constructive criticism, just reading off the manufacturer's ads
Ya, as a true service to people who will be spending money, they never mentioned wheel alignment issues which was a complaint, headset looseness, creaking seatpost, it's just all to happy with no issues to watch for. How false.
Izlaco max disc 9.7 is way better option. Lighter, more aero, better handling, etc after riding evo was a massive let down. Stack and reach just dont make this aero , unless you like riding in MTB positions
I love the look of the Izalco Max! I haven't ridden one nor seen one in person though. Unfortunately, there are no Focus dealers near me.
@@DaveCM you're right. For some reason Focus has a very poor distribution for the Izalco. Even in non euro countries where there are dealers, there isn't much promotion of the bike, nor sufficient stock. Cant fathom why they'd make such a great bike but fail on distribution- unless their plan is to focus more on MTBs???
I've got a one , the basic model and its speed downhill is amazing . Can't work it out but rediculous
you've put on weight?
Haha, I do test with buddy ,same weight as me on trek Malone aero , I'm faster by quite a margin . I've got 5 bikes , none go downhill like evo
@@carlstatham594 ??? No, did test with my mate who is same weight on his new aero madone £6k , I was significantly faster ... could be wheel /bearings ?
It's the uphill speed that matters.
@@Phaidrus it goes uphill good ,not as good as principia gho .but nothing responds like prince .
its 700$ to activate the power meter...
Wait, you think America has smooth roads, do you Brits even know what winter is? ;p
They should have just called it something else
That right. They destroyed the Cannondale supersix heritage and went with the copycat cookie cutter frame that every company been using. They made it into a even more heavier frameset than some other companies, which made no sense as the supersix was the hallmark for lightweight weenies. Last hope is that Trek wont do the same for their prestige Emonda.
Cannondale has a System for naming their bikes.
Ok guys... Now tell me what this bike do what my SS Evo Hi-Mod 2016 won`t. C`mon you can do it.
no disc pfff
enrique carrion They have a rim break option.
No, cannondale exactly copied the crowd with drop stays. They were the last hold out against compact geometry. They can say they did it for a reason but they were against it until they had to give in. It would be better to admit it.
Is anyone else tired of the truncated airfoil shape talks? Before this is was Kammtail shape, aren't they the same? It's safe to assume all bikes will have these shapes going forward until someone "debunks" the shape as inefficient to usher in the latest fad.
The 3:1 ratio for tubes is a UCI ruling for frame design. Bike comapnies changed designs to comply. Many now use a 4:1 ratio but cut "truncate" the last trailing 1/4 of the oval to achieve a 3:1 ratio. This meets the regulation but also creates a more aero shape than a complete 3:1 oval profile.
They changed the geometry to agree with more Dentists.
2:29 30% faster...right. Okay then.
30% more aerodynamic.. Pay attention!
@@denmae1971 Show us the receipts, Cannondale.
I disagree with every review I’ve heard of this bike. It rides and rides super harsh- Buzzy and twitchy.
The cycling community is full of hypocrites, they always want there bikes to be faster, but when one thing works really well and has basically no downside and all the brands start to use it(dropped seat stays) they hate it.
This 100%
It reminds me all that Audiophiles "I pay 2k dollars for RCA cables to make sound much better" community idiots as well.
Yet another BMC SLR01 copy, but with a shittier bb standard
If someone look at your blogs they would see Cannondale in 90% of your videos, why is that? But then other bikes do a greater job on the road.
Great handling bike, really? That must be why half of Team EF Education First crashed out of La Vuelta under strange circumstances 😏🤷🏻♂️
TERRIBLE! You won’t need any device to tell you when to service their bikes because you won’t stop going back to the dealer with creaking problems. In effect, everyday will be a service day!
Stylish Riding / Bought the new 2020 Cannondale Synapse in December. Started off taking back to dealer for a creak no one could fine. I bought a new seat and seat post. My new bike was in the shop all the time for silly stuff like rear now working correctly.
The problem was actually the seat clamp. I discovered that in April by accident. The creaking problems have gone away hopefully they stay gone.
@@teddylovesfrench how did you fix that seat clamp problem?
Still, a pig to look at good or not
The only thing on this bike that's innovative is Di2. Since this channel or any other western based channel wont cover the explosion of innovative companies from China then we are left to assume this bike and its price tag are somehow worth it. You would be completely wrong assuming that, and there are about 5 Chinese brands that will sell you a bike that's similar for under 1,500 bucks. Until the cycling community comes to grips with a T1100 frame is a T1100 frame no matter who makes it then its comical when someone says they purchased a 5 to 10k bike that only cost 1.500 dollars.
Hate it
How do you two not know that the power meter is total BS? the buyer of this BS bike needs to pay an additional $400-600 just to activate it. Honestly, how do you not know this?
They choose not to tell, that's how .
It is still cheaper than buying a bike and adding a power meter to it.
it's not BS - it's been covered ad nauseam - the $500 is roughly what a good meter costs anyway. It's more effective cost wise to include them at a bulk purchase price and charge for activation than go through the current mess of supplying spare cranks to Power meter companies. Put your toys back in the pram ffs.
Another thing - who cares about a speed sensor ?!?!?!
@@lassefk3171 Most anyone who uses data in their training. Using just GPS isn't going to be as accurate. There will be times when it cuts out momentarily. It is also effected by gradient. I've been grinding up a steep climb and have see my Garmin or Wahoo auto pause because it thinks I'm not moving. Most everyone I ride with has sensors in addition to the GPS
Copy every company's shape and call it the 'new' thing.. Cannondale is 3 years too late into this so call 'new shape' lol... should of stick to their routes and went with a new supersix with lighter material and kept the old shape that everyone loved. The weightweenies could of use the older traditional style with even newer carbon layout for even lighter frameset. This 'new supersix' should of been called something else as a bridge between the synapse/supersix to the all out aero systemsix. So far talking to all the old cannondale lovers all dislike this move and the new supersix. So glad i bought a tarmac sworks instead of waiting for the new supersix. I was about to regret my decision as I bought the sworks first at a good discount then was thinking 'what if my favorite supersix going be new and awesome' but no worries cannondale didnt make that happen and i was happy to get a sworks in a discount haha
That is pure advertisement.