Rather hand carve my spoons all day... That's the whole point of making something with your hands is the satisfaction of hand crafting. CNC machines are super awesome I never got a chance to play with one but I would rather put it to different uses
Just found this video even thought it was posted many years ago now. Already started researching for next years Christmas presents and came across this. I prefer the handmade version you made and think I'm going to give that one a shot. Great quality video, thanks for sharing.
nice work.recently bought a band saw and replaced broken belt sander.have about 70 gouges of mixed pedigree.Christmas is coming so in full production mode.people really appreciate well crafted,hand made implements,and if you've wood with a nice grain,all the better.I've a good stock of cherry,and recently acquired some rosewood about 3"beautiful grain and hard as iron.thanks for your video.I generally leave square sides on bowl until I've gouged hollow,the band saw to shape before cabinet scraper,the wire wool.then just soak in good quality olive oil.wood is so wonderful to work with.I do a lot of Celtic network too.keeps my brain busy and creative through the short days and long nights.stay lucky and stay safe.maddog.west cork. republic of Ireland
great job! I've hand carved some spoons out of birch which is more forgiving than oak which tends to really tear out when carving against the grain. liked the idea of CNCing one too.
Hey I'm a Maker I’m not sure exactly but i think overall It was pretty close. The cnc spoon was a double sided carve so that added to the carve time but saved on finishing and sanding time. I wanna say it took about 2 hours to carve on the cnc.
I just read that using a metal spoon on honey can kill an important enzyme in honey, so I thought I'd look around on making a spoon. This video is great. Thanks!
hi, i hope it won't sound bad, but i didn't like either way how u made those spoons. cnc made is just a machine made and the hand made one was not quiet hand made, i mean hand crafted means no power tools, at least for me. anyways it is just my opinion. both spoons looked nice by the way! u should try using green wood and hand tools only, i think that is the way to make these things!
Peet Schultz my brothers and I try to drop and chop a few trees a year up on my parents land, and let that dry for the next winter. This years dry wood happened to be nice oak. And somehow many of those logs happened to wind up in my shop!
Brought here from Tim's channel and subscribed. Very cool side-by-side. Have to say I like the more rounded shape of the handmade one. It's subtle, but gives it that extra "something".
Wood Rocks and Plants and Stuff my wife liked the cnc one better than the handmade. She said the spoon was bigger and the handle was skinnier and easier to use.
The one I used for the cnc was approximately 3/4” thick, by 13” by 2.5” the other one was a little bigger but I’m not sure the exact measurements but probably close to 13”x3”x1” thick.
Blame Tim for the view and sub dude. Hey what you showed there is very relevant and i guess another comparison would be cost to manufacture I suppose, hence the rise of the machines. I like the one made by hand ;)
Scott Turner The thing about the cnc is It runs in the background. So I can crank those out while I'm working on other projects. So as far as productivity goes and value of shop time goes up because more is being done with it. I did like the final look of hand carved. But I can make some adjustments to the cnc design to replicate it pretty close.
kcb3rd yeah this firewood all gets stacked outside to dry for a year. And then it gets stacked undercover for the next winter. So it was pretty dry, and I picked logs that didn’t have any checks or cracks to begin with. And both spoons are still in great shape getting everyday use in my kitchen.
Michael Chipser. Cnc had a little more board prep, but carve time on my machine was about 2 hours, and by hand it probably took me 2 hours start to finish.
Lyda Shop. Cnc had a little more board prep, but carve time on my machine was about 2 hours, and by hand it probably took me 2 hours start to finish, not sure exactly though.
Can any one lkst the equipment needed for the hand made spoon? Also how often to you need to put that protective layer on the spoon? How long did it take to make the hand man spoon?
I prefer to make it by my hands, its easy and fast do it with machine but i think handcraft have more value, sense because you know the time that you use to make it, it doesen't matter if you make it slow or fast, what really cares is you did it by yourself and by your own hands and that make it prowd!!
joaquin acosta I totally agree with you. But there is also something satisfying designing a piece on the computer and then holding that work in your hand.
I really liked the video. And I know, I'm majoring in minors now, but the music was really cool for about 30 seconds. Then it got irritating. Then it got unbearable. Then I remembered the mute button. Ahh, sweet relief. But the video content is awesome. Thanks.
White oak has smaller pores than red oak. And is often used in boat building for that reason. But the other woods you stated would be good options as well.
The HONDACATS not too much faster with setup time, but I could carve multiple spoons from one board and cut that time down. But while I’m making furniture or what ever the cnc can be making spoons in the background.
You don't need to put a finish on wood spoons or cutting boards for that matter. What ever you put on them will make it's way into your food if you cook with them. If you are still bent on using something you can use vegetable oil or something like that. Either way they will end up plain wood eventually.
ALLxoxoxoxo , you don't want to use vegetable oil as it will go rancid. Mineral oil can be used but will need reapplied because it doesn't dry. It's best in my opinion to use a walnut oil/ beeswax mix as it will dry and last a long time. You can leave it unfinished but best if you burnish it just to close the grain.
@@dennishuff2914 All my wood utensils end up dry anyway because I'm too lazy to recoat them. I went to culinary school and we were told to use vegetable oil and to recoat as needed. We were also told to sand them smooth to get rid of the grooves because bacteria from food will get in the cuts and become rancid. We were also told not to use plastic cutting boards because the bits will get in food.
Make a batch of "spoon butter". In fact, I just made some only 10 minutes ago for my hand carved pocket spoon and kuksa. For a small batch, 2oz beeswax(by weight) to 6oz raw cold pressed flax oil. Melt the wax to a liquid slowly, and slowly mix in the oil. Allow to cool down and apply with cloth. I just wiped down my bare wood cabinets with it as well to condition the wood, and gives a nice shine Old English creators would be envious of.
Food grade mineral oil is also an option. If you just need a small amount of it, Walmart sells it in 16 oz bottles for $1.98 in the pharmacy section. It is listed as a laxative, but it is just pure mineral oil.
I do the same thing with just a hatchet, knife, and bent knife. If You use power tools, You might as well go buy a cheap mass produced wooden spoon at walmart!!!
Why do people continue to use circular saws without a guard and bad saws for taking edges off. Its a wonder you still have all your fingers, or perhaps just luck... Its so easy to become complacent around such dangerous machines in the woodwork shop.
Yep looks like a circular saw/ bench saw at 50 second mark. Always best to use push stick on both the circular saw and band saw. I seen a guy lose part of his thumb on a band saw when I was an apprentice so I learned from an early stage at the expense of someone else's mistake. Wouldn't want anyone else to make that sort of mistake though, so just trying to put some words of wisdom out there....
So many energy and hard electrics tools for f//n wooden spoon/ What happened with you?)) Russian and Swedens hold just one knife in a hand and little axe for this.
check out Dick Proenneke carving a spoon with his ax on "ALONE IN THE WILDERNESS" part 2 on youtube or go to www.aloneinthewilderness.com I think you will find it very entertaining !
Dave Bishop I appreciate the input. I will let you know this is the only split screen video on my channel so if you have the time, check out one of the other ones and see if you like it better.
Timothy Carr thanks for your concern, “handmade” would mean they were made completely by hand rather than a machine. I’m not claiming it was hand made. I am saying “handcrafted” which by definition means it was made my use of hands. And that I did. Sorry for your confusion with words.
Rather hand carve my spoons all day... That's the whole point of making something with your hands is the satisfaction of hand crafting. CNC machines are super awesome I never got a chance to play with one but I would rather put it to different uses
Just found this video even thought it was posted many years ago now. Already started researching for next years Christmas presents and came across this. I prefer the handmade version you made and think I'm going to give that one a shot. Great quality video, thanks for sharing.
nice work.recently bought a band saw and replaced broken belt sander.have about 70 gouges of mixed pedigree.Christmas is coming so in full production mode.people really appreciate well crafted,hand made implements,and if you've wood with a nice grain,all the better.I've a good stock of cherry,and recently acquired some rosewood about 3"beautiful grain and hard as iron.thanks for your video.I generally leave square sides on bowl until I've gouged hollow,the band saw to shape before cabinet scraper,the wire wool.then just soak in good quality olive oil.wood is so wonderful to work with.I do a lot of Celtic network too.keeps my brain busy and creative through the short days and long nights.stay lucky and stay safe.maddog.west cork. republic of Ireland
great job! I've hand carved some spoons out of birch which is more forgiving than oak which tends to really tear out when carving against the grain. liked the idea of CNCing one too.
Vintage Wood Workshop. Nice, I'll have to try it out.
Love the hand crafted spoon! The CNC Spoon is also nice but it doesn't have the same soul.
Thanks for sharing!
Hey I'm a Maker thanks for the input! I feel the same way!
Do you know what the time difference was?
Hey I'm a Maker I’m not sure exactly but i think overall It was pretty close. The cnc spoon was a double sided carve so that added to the carve time but saved on finishing and sanding time. I wanna say it took about 2 hours to carve on the cnc.
I just read that using a metal spoon on honey can kill an important enzyme in honey, so I thought I'd look around on making a spoon. This video is great. Thanks!
One is perfectly imperfect. The other is, well, machined.
hi,
i hope it won't sound bad, but i didn't like either way how u made those spoons.
cnc made is just a machine made and the hand made one was not quiet hand made, i mean hand crafted means no power tools, at least for me.
anyways it is just my opinion.
both spoons looked nice by the way! u should try using green wood and hand tools only, i think that is the way to make these things!
Laci Ihasz all criticism is constructive in my book. I appreciate the input, maybe I should revisit this in another video!
J. Harmon Design
i am glad u take my comment as a positive criticism, as i meant to be!
Im suscribing just cause the way that you ask for it was so original
The Handcrafted one certainly makes for a much more interesting footage.
Beautiful spoons ( I like the handmade a tad more!) Wish I had a pile of Oak firewood like that!
Peet Schultz my brothers and I try to drop and chop a few trees a year up on my parents land, and let that dry for the next winter. This years dry wood happened to be nice oak. And somehow many of those logs happened to wind up in my shop!
Tim sent me here, super cool idea!
Jackman Works thanks buddy!
I really like it. I will try make it one
I still hand carve my wooden spoons and would prefer that method over CNC any day...!!!
Hand crafted it's always fun, you will have the satisfaction, the sensation of doing something with your hands.
Agreed!!!
this is fantastic! I've had a "CNC vs Handmade" video on my list since I got a CNC. this is exactly what I was thinking.
Oh man, Tim you need to do it!
and did you happen to notice my new jointer sled.
That sled is brilliant. What material is that on top? Shelf liner?
49cfr yeah it's shelf paper. Tim has a video on how he found this simple sled design kind of on accident.
ha ha!
I like the comparison. Both came out great.
Scotland are good at wooden spoons
Brought here from Tim's channel and subscribed. Very cool side-by-side. Have to say I like the more rounded shape of the handmade one. It's subtle, but gives it that extra "something".
Seth Galitzer yeah It's almost a catch 22. I like the hand carved one because it's unique. But I like the cnc because it's a consistent product.
Cool video nice designs have you used either spoon, which is better?
Wood Rocks and Plants and Stuff my wife liked the cnc one better than the handmade. She said the spoon was bigger and the handle was skinnier and easier to use.
Belle démonstration bravo
What size of wood (blank) did you start with after you took the firewood for your spoon???
The one I used for the cnc was approximately 3/4” thick, by 13” by 2.5” the other one was a little bigger but I’m not sure the exact measurements but probably close to 13”x3”x1” thick.
@@jharmondesign many thanks for the reply. 😷⚾
Step 1: buy $10,000 dollars worth of equipment.
Tim sent me. Glad he did! Really cool videos, subscribed. 👍🏻
Richard Martin thanks buddy. I'm glad to hear you like my work!
Blame Tim for the view and sub dude. Hey what you showed there is very relevant and i guess another comparison would be cost to manufacture I suppose, hence the rise of the machines. I like the one made by hand ;)
Scott Turner The thing about the cnc is It runs in the background. So I can crank those out while I'm working on other projects. So as far as productivity goes and value of shop time goes up because more is being done with it. I did like the final look of hand carved. But I can make some adjustments to the cnc design to replicate it pretty close.
@@jharmondesign kllbbobjj
Hey. Prefer the band saw way. Question- was the oak wood seasoned? Did you experience any cracks, splits after time?
kcb3rd yeah this firewood all gets stacked outside to dry for a year. And then it gets stacked undercover for the next winter. So it was pretty dry, and I picked logs that didn’t have any checks or cracks to begin with. And both spoons are still in great shape getting everyday use in my kitchen.
thanks for the help :)
fun video - came here after watching Tim's video
Shogun-Jimi thanks for checking it out! Tims a great guy.
i like the hand made one better but both are cool . god bless
very good! i like spoons, By the way, I have the 3rd and fast way to do it.
what was the time difference on the hand made vs CNC? outside of sanding, since both would need sanding after machining.
Michael Chipser. Cnc had a little more board prep, but carve time on my machine was about 2 hours, and by hand it probably took me 2 hours start to finish.
It was cool to see side-by-side but how long did it take you to make the spoon. How long does it take to C&C to make it
Lyda Shop. Cnc had a little more board prep, but carve time on my machine was about 2 hours, and by hand it probably took me 2 hours start to finish, not sure exactly though.
Hi
can you suggest which CnC machine shall be used for cutlery making in bulk quantities
Can any one lkst the equipment needed for the hand made spoon? Also how often to you need to put that protective layer on the spoon? How long did it take to make the hand man spoon?
Thank you for this 😍
Love the music! Who is the artist?
I prefer to make it by my hands, its easy and fast do it with machine but i think handcraft have more value, sense because you know the time that you use to make it, it doesen't matter if you make it slow or fast, what really cares is you did it by yourself and by your own hands and that make it prowd!!
joaquin acosta I totally agree with you. But there is also something satisfying designing a piece on the computer and then holding that work in your hand.
I prefer the handcarved over machined!
I agree. I can buy a thousand spoons at the dollar store, but I only need one. I prefer it to be a nice one.
in my opinion a lot of work for a small result ,but it is beautiful ...handmade all the same .
That the music is playing tell me ?
Shop sent me here
Both are nice but I like the hand crafted better.
Coming on over from Tim's channel... great project (and I subbed) 🤓👍🏼
Live Free and DIY thanks for the support! Plenty of new videos in the works!
Cool video! Great concept and good music. Found you from Tim.
Awesome vid keep up the hard work!
Nice-looking implements, but a CNC-machined wooden spoon is just somehow not right.
Love this going to invade husbands shed and attempt this art
.Both spoons look great ...Im here cause Tim sent me .....think i,ll stay a little long (new sub)
Ficou top show de bola super laik
How thick did you put it through the planer?
I really liked the video. And I know, I'm majoring in minors now, but the music was really cool for about 30 seconds. Then it got irritating. Then it got unbearable. Then I remembered the mute button. Ahh, sweet relief.
But the video content is awesome. Thanks.
I think your hand made one beats your machine, but both are nice.
is it difficult to make a spoon with a CNC machine. I'd like to learn how it's done
I guess my firewood bottle opener wasn't as crazy as I thought. I still have enough left for a spoon or two.
bluebarnworkshop do it up!
What oil you use in the end?
denisa marku it’s a standard food grade butcher block oil from the big box stores. But any food grade oil will work. Even a coconut oil could work.
Hand crafted
Super!
Oak is porous and holds food and liquid particles. It is not suitable for kitchen utensils. Maple, beech, and birch are some of the better ones.
White oak has smaller pores than red oak. And is often used in boat building for that reason. But the other woods you stated would be good options as well.
What type of wood was that you used?
I believe red oak, as that was what was in the wood pile at the time. But white oak is less porous and would work better for a spoon in my opinion.
@@jharmondesign good because I have plenty of white oak, it's every where down here now because of the hurricanes
how much faster is the machine then by hand
The HONDACATS not too much faster with setup time, but I could carve multiple spoons from one board and cut that time down. But while I’m making furniture or what ever the cnc can be making spoons in the background.
You don't need to put a finish on wood spoons or cutting boards for that matter. What ever you put on them will make it's way into your food if you cook with them. If you are still bent on using something you can use vegetable oil or something like that. Either way they will end up plain wood eventually.
ALLxoxoxoxo , you don't want to use vegetable oil as it will go rancid. Mineral oil can be used but will need reapplied because it doesn't dry. It's best in my opinion to use a walnut oil/ beeswax mix as it will dry and last a long time. You can leave it unfinished but best if you burnish it just to close the grain.
@@dennishuff2914 All my wood utensils end up dry anyway because I'm too lazy to recoat them. I went to culinary school and we were told to use vegetable oil and to recoat as needed. We were also told to sand them smooth to get rid of the grooves because bacteria from food will get in the cuts and become rancid. We were also told not to use plastic cutting boards because the bits will get in food.
Make a batch of "spoon butter". In fact, I just made some only 10 minutes ago for my hand carved pocket spoon and kuksa. For a small batch, 2oz beeswax(by weight) to 6oz raw cold pressed flax oil. Melt the wax to a liquid slowly, and slowly mix in the oil. Allow to cool down and apply with cloth. I just wiped down my bare wood cabinets with it as well to condition the wood, and gives a nice shine Old English creators would be envious of.
The hand power
Hand crafted.
The right way and the lazy way.
with what you lubricate the spoon?
arben limani butcherblock oil.
Food grade mineral oil is also an option. If you just need a small amount of it, Walmart sells it in 16 oz bottles for $1.98 in the pharmacy section. It is listed as a laxative, but it is just pure mineral oil.
Does a nice spoon what kind of oil you use for the finish
butcher block
Reckon i could do it with axe and slotd and hook knife justcas fast as your mistly machined one
I do the same thing with just a hatchet, knife, and bent knife. If You use power tools, You might as well go buy a cheap mass produced wooden spoon at walmart!!!
Nice
Tim sent me. 👍🏻
very cool! I cam from tim sways channel.
Duuuuuuuuuh. Hey look at me, I'm da waterboy. I got a wooden spoon. duhhhhhhhhh.
whats the cheapest and smallest cnc machine for wood you can get?anyone knows?
ivan sivic I not really sure. I bought mine second hand for $400
@@jharmondesign just 400$ i tought it was a 20k$ machine lol ty gonna do some research
Go John Henry Go !!!
I would've never bought a cnc machined lol
Functionally, It’s my wife’s favorite spoon.
1st job .... make a push stick whilst you still have all your fingers.
Thanks for the tip, I’ve since began using one. Check out my other videos to see!
@@jharmondesign I am so pleased.
I get the impression you are from Maine..............?
Shane Clark you bet!
I am in Cornville. The bustling hub of central nowhere Maine.
Would you sell any?
Why do people continue to use circular saws without a guard and bad saws for taking edges off. Its a wonder you still have all your fingers, or perhaps just luck... Its so easy to become complacent around such dangerous machines in the woodwork shop.
Elfin4 I don't recall using a circular saw on this project. But I probably should have used a push stick on the table saw.
Yep looks like a circular saw/ bench saw at 50 second mark. Always best to use push stick on both the circular saw and band saw. I seen a guy lose part of his thumb on a band saw when I was an apprentice so I learned from an early stage at the expense of someone else's mistake. Wouldn't want anyone else to make that sort of mistake though, so just trying to put some words of wisdom out there....
There are many similar projects in Woodglut's plans.
Hand for me
So many energy and hard electrics tools for f//n wooden spoon/ What happened with you?)) Russian and Swedens hold just one knife in a hand and little axe for this.
By hand is ok but instead of CNC I go to the Chinese store.
I dont have a single power tool lol
Really enjoy it. Let's check woodprix plans also.
check out Dick Proenneke carving a spoon with his ax on "ALONE IN THE WILDERNESS" part 2 on youtube or go to www.aloneinthewilderness.com I think you will find it very entertaining !
Puts hand near table saw blade , very dangerous!
Firstname Lastname is familiar with saw and keep eye on blade, very safe!
I made it by myself. I used woodprix scripts for that.
Garzon Laperle nope
Had listen on silence because the music is horrible but the spoons are nice
In the first minute you lost a potential subscriber. Don’t you like your hands or fingers?!?! PUSH-STICK!!!!!!!
Love my fingers. And have since begun using push sticks. If you subscribe you will see my other videos where I use better safety precautions.
That's it. Make a wooden spoon with thousands of dollars worth of equipment. A sign of our society. What a joke.
I'm sure you can find awesome woodworking plans on woodprix website
hand crafted is better
The split screen and music are very distracting I will not be subscribing
Dave Bishop I appreciate the input. I will let you know this is the only split screen video on my channel so if you have the time, check out one of the other ones and see if you like it better.
lol "handcrafted"
very detailed plans for that I found on stodoys.
Starr Stewart liar
Interesting...just leave out the music
What I can derive from this video is that you're someone with way too many possessions, judging by the amount of wood you can choose from.
Not really "hand crafted" are they when you use power tools, but OK, knock yourself out.
Timothy Carr thanks for your concern, “handmade” would mean they were made completely by hand rather than a machine. I’m not claiming it was hand made. I am saying “handcrafted” which by definition means it was made my use of hands. And that I did. Sorry for your confusion with words.
Pointless video if you don't have thousands of dollars in equipment.
GAY