One important bit of instructions left out by this guide is how to actually scan for the hotspots. I think many people coming here expecting to see a complete How To are not necessarily aware of how to do so. To scan for hotspots, you need to use the Details Surface Scanner and launch a probe, just one, into the rings of the planet. That will then scan them and specific resource hotspots will appear.
@@planexshifter I also wish that the video explained that there are multiple rings and they are called A, B, C, etc. It took me a little to figure that out too. At this point, I have mining down and am making money but it was difficult at the start, even with this video. It left out some key things.
@@JohnVanderbeck no he is right, in your experience if you launched a probe and scanned all the way it means that planet you went to has only one ring.
As a returning Elite player (after 3ish years off) this guide was super helpful. Thank you for breaking down some of the more subtle details, such as exactly how many collector limpets per laser, aiming for the rotation axis of the asteroid, etc. Great vid, subscribed.
After watching your Painite live stream and this video I just did 262t in 65 minutes :) That's a full cargo and full 6-bin refinery in my all-purpose mining Anaconda (does Void and SSD as well). I was about to post that I thought 200-300t per hours was a bit optimistic. I have been mining Painite all last week, but I only had a 5C Prospector, 2 x 5C collectors and 1 x 5A collector. I watched this video, where you again make the point about the 5A Prospector, and thought: "Test it properly first!". I did, and you are of course right :) It is definitely worth the effort of finding a station with "A" rated prospectors and collectors. Thanks :)
I finally went into mining after seeing this video (New Player and a huge Fan - I love your Videos!) and it was a desaster. After finding a Platinum Hotspot I mananged to prospect 100(!) asteroids and there was not one who contained said precious element (reinstanced several times). I went out with my Python and 192 limpets. After all I gathered some gold and some silver but those 2h rewarded me with about 5 million credits - not very much... Maybe I missed something mayor or RNGesus did not like me after all. To be honest this might have been my first and last mining trip. All the best from Switzerland! - Cmdr Brunhilfe von Schaft
Also recommend going ahead and bringing an abrasion blaster and/or a subsurface displacement missile if you have room, for when your prospector finds those deposits. No sense leaving perfectly good Painite sitting on or just below the surface.
Something I don't think you addressed (might have missed it on my first watch, also most players know this by now) is the fact that wing mining is more efficient for two reasons. Not only do rocks drop everyone the same amount of chunks as it would have if you were alone, most importantly the prospecting process is much quicker with a bunch of extra people. Also, if you want to help out a new player make money your collectors will quickly pick up their chunks. So these players can focus on cargo space before having tons of collectors, essentially just increasing the chunk output. It's especially practical if you have a Fleet Carrier to allow you to easily split the loot at the end using your market as proxy for cargo transfer, otherwise you have to wait around for a small amount of collectors to pick up their share.
True, when it comes 2 carriers - I am convinced the best use for a carrier is as a mobile base. You get spotting & prospecting with a small ship with good jump, after you discover a "sweet place" you call in the "mobile base" and you fill your pockets.
Ya know, instead of nerfing mining all the time why don't the devs actually make the other professions pay more than pennies per hour? I guess that is just asking too much from Fdev lol
Mining used to pay next to nothing until core-able asteroids were introduced. It's still the best viable way to make credits. I do wish they would balance core-ables better now. They seem almost impossible to find now. I'd rather them be more common but lower the sell prices on Opals and LTDs.
I was laser mining with my T9 out at Hyades Sector DB-X d1-112 just yesterday; did in excess of 350 mil in one run. Painite laser mining is the perfect "turn brain off and relax" money making activity. If you use a T9 upgrade your FSD or you'll be hating life. Cheers!
That's the spot I have been going in my Cutter, and I agree on the 'turn brain off and relax' comment. That's what I do when I am there, I find it quite relaxing. I would probably find it more frustrating than relaxing in a Type 9 though. My hat's off to you, I used one for hauling Tritium before they borked supply and demand with FCU3, its significantly less maneuverable than the Cutter.
Been playing for a few days, been mining painite and selling to a fleet carrier buying for 716k and already in a fully fit and tanked out mining anaconda. Almost at 2 bill now.
@@SandyCheeks1896 dock at the carrier, go to commodities and if they have orders up you can just click how much you want to sell. One of the systems I found, carriers were named something like, “716k for painite” some are more active than others
@@dyzze9696 ok, I’ve been looking for the opportunity to sell my ltd but haven’t seen any carriers buying. Do you know the best thing to mine right now? I’m only getting like 20 ltd per hour.
@@SandyCheeks1896 my guide has been TH-cam. Have had lots of luck with painite and a few active carriers selling for 700k. Also some recent videos of people mining LTD and selling for 1 to 2 mill per unit. Haven’t dabbled into Ltd mining yet, but if you google or TH-cam it, you’ll find it. Still a lot of active streamers givin out solid info
Even at the current prices for Painite, it is very easy to go from a mining Adder to an Asp and then to an Anaconda in just a couple of runs per ship. Great video! I just started with Zemina Torval yesterday and I can't wait to get my mining lances in a month.
Thanks for the info. I've started out mining and still trying to find my way around. Was able to mine 15t of LTDs and sold them for 615K /t but heard from a friend he was getting over 1Million/t a few months back. Really enjoying the game and seeing all the helpful videos on TH-cam kind of helps to immerse you further into the game.
I've been having pretty good luck with painite. I park my FC real close to the mining spot, pull my cutter out and mine as long as I want to, come back, and dump the load on my FC. Also been mining Platnium along with it just for some residual income, doesn't pay as much but it's nice to have some other stock on hand. Thank you for the video!
I seem to always run out of limpets way before my cargo hold is full. Even when bringing 180 of them to an overlapping hotspot they just melt away, and as far as I know none of them hit the rocks.
I'm fairly new at this and I also tend to run out of limpets, but to fill my refinery. Cargo always get full. Just tried the cutter for the first time today and had to throw away like 150 limpets because I was getting full.cargo and refinery all the time. In the end I left with 2 refinery slots empty
Are you targeting the painite fragments and then launching your collector limpets? If so, then the limpets will bring you only that 1 fragment and then immediately expire. I did that in the start and didn't understand why i ran out of limpets so quickly. make sure you're not targeting any fragments, just keep it on the prospector (or nothing at all) and then launch your collector limpets and they will collect all fragments automatically, make sure to put unwanted material fragments on ignore list, so gathering the material you want goes alot quicker :)
I went mining for the first time today, mostly been grinding federation and empire rank until now. One thing confuses me. In each of the two runs, my first two prospector limpets had no issues. But everyone after that, after the 'programming message', I'd hear "Prospector limpet failed", but it fired and function normally. What gives? Great videos! You're right up there with Exigeous & Hawkes Gaming as my Go-to sources.
Your limpet controller can only handle two limpets at the same time. When you already have two prospector limpets out, sending out another one causes the first one to fail. So it's nothing to worry about.
This guide is very helpfull for a beginner like me, there are guides out there that all tell you to go low tempature diamond mining, but there is only so much i can do with an Adder cargo space wise and with limpets amounts, and I have spend more time travelling and getting interdicted then mining xD. i guess i will give this a try. looking forward to that beginner guide.
You dont really need to engineer anything unless you are playing PvP or really can't handle short jump range...even then you can get by relatively well with nothing engineered at all. I still only routinely only run with my fsd engineered.
You can mine in something like a Cobra if you want. I think a Cobra can fit around 32 tons of cargo with a fuel scoop so you can easily get 20-30 million worth in about 20 minutes. Engineering isn't necessary for mining.
@@ahuryn19 Yeah, Cobra is 32+6 tons (6 in the refinery) keeping shields and a fuel scoop. The Dolphin can do 48+6 tons for about a 500k higher initial investment. Biggest problem with the Dolphin is it's got only two small hard points, so you're limited to class 1 mining lasers. The Dolphin can run three collector limpets though, the Cobra is limited to a single one.
@@SilentKillerPrince Most people starting with a small ship are beginners at mining; core mining is more advanced, so it's not really recommended for beginners. The small ships are fine for getting started in to earn you enough quickly to move on to bigger and better ships. I do agree small ships are definitely better suited to core and sub-surface mining, maneuverability matters there. They are perfectly fine at laser mining too though. It only takes two asteroids with 50% Painite to fill the cargo hold of a Cobra with laser mining, you get about 1 ton per 3% concentration.
Please do a “all the tips and tricks.” I have copied your “favorite mining ship” python build exactly aside from a few of the engineerings (weight reductions etc, I’ve got the power ones and so on) and I’m no where close to 200T/hour. It’s more like 180T/3hours.
I just did a run in my t9 and got 440t in about 2h15m its alittle harder in the medium ships but still doable. Its just about luck and more so efficiency! U need the best laser build to deplete it as quick as possible but also enough limpits so it finishes as close to the same time as possible, already have ur prospectors out so youb already know where your going next then pips back to engine then boost to the next. Cargo scoop(air break) back down, full reverse . All pips to shields. Crash... preferably at the point of axis of asteroid to make collection safer and quicker then start mining... now repeat. To get the tons they talk about in the vids i find you have to be going full on
Mined my first painite asteroid and wondered why I didn't end up with any in my inventory, or even my refinery. Then I noticed painite was in my collector ignore list, so I had to sit and wait while the collectors grabbed the whole yield, which was just floating around out there.
@@johanndebeer4453 Make sure you are using your surface scanner on the rings and then dropping out at an actual hotspot (and make sure it's Painite too!). You should be able to find Painite in each rock or every second rock at best. The worst streak I've had was about 6 asteroids with no painite.
Hi, I can’t find these smaller ship mining builds. I am using a krait and wanted to get into laser mining for painite. Do I always need to look for dual hotspots? Single hot spots, I find very very little painite asteroids.
I tried a couple of Painite hotspots and I came up with zippo. Never even found 1 rock with a painite percentage. Got my cutter all geared up once I figure out where to mine.
@@iseverynametakenwtf1 Oh yeah. I was able to get enough to buy a fleet carrier. Now my carrier sits in system to buy painite until it’s full then I sell it for profit. Check out Col 285 Sector wp-e c12-17. A great double painite hotspot. Swing by my carrier, Pay-Knight if you’re needing to sell 😃
@@Jeradactile I'm heading there now. 25 jumps from Ray's Station. Hope this is a good spot. Last one only the inner ring had anything. Wasted two hours looking in the "hot spot" to find out it wasn't for laser mining, but deep core mining
Corvette is ranked up there with anaconda for mining. I found it to be excellent for mining so I bought two corvette, one for mining and one for fighting. Check it out sir thank you keep up the good work cheers 🥂
Thanks for the video. So the scan wave is useless for that? (I know it 's for core but I thought it detected also rich asteroid, so i was thinking it could show rich painite asteroid ?! ) I would like to know also if we still "dive" in the overlapped area and if we have to avoid the center of the yellow zone ? thanks again
You should still use overlaps as i gives a bonus amount of rock and material you get. The bonus has been greatly reduced in the latest patch, but it's still bonus
@@C-S-J subsurface painite mining is not that bad. I was filling my python almost as fast as laser mining and using almost half of the limpets. But thats also why I said "if you want something other than aimless click click" I think is a decent alternative. Wouldn't really call it worthless. Once again, in the python. The cutter was a pain to move around.
Also, does it matter if there are a lot of other people mining in a location? I know that for mother lodes, more people deplete a location faster, but does this also apply for laser mining?
Do you have any recommendations on how to balance the number of limpets for each trip, especially when you are only going for a certain percentage of mineral?
A small ship mining guide would certainly be a great idea. Also, just for the record, I've had a COMPLETELY different experience mining out in the black, specifically in the PHROEA BLI region. Tritium seems reasonably plentiful and I did find some low temp diamonds, but I also tried finding minerals in hotspots of Benitoite, Muskgravite, AND Painite. Shot prospector after prospector for roughly 15- 20 minutes each and found ton after ton of garbage minerals but ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of those minerals in their hotspots. Ridiculous...
Literally just visited a Painite hotspot two jumps from Lumastya and went through 50 prospector limpets which turned up zero Painite. Loads of Osmium, Gold, Silver etc etc but no Painite. And yes, It was 100% a Painite hotspot on the ring I surface scanned. Just no Painite after prospecting the shit out of what must have been every asteroid within 5km of the hotspot location marker.
Hey, the mining tool gave me non pristine location, should I make sure I go to a pristine one for this? I'm new so I'm uncertain about all the details.
I have used over 400 limpets prospecting in a hotspot, and have yet to find 1 rock with painite. What am i doing wrong? Because by now i could have made 100mill doing explo
It took me several hours to farm all of the money for the equipment, it then took me a while to get to the proper system and ring... it also took me a while to figure out how to use the fucking scanner and the fact that I had to set up the keys to yaw or whatever when using the drone. Now I know what the hot spot for Painite is, used around 14 prospector drones and found ZERO FUCKING painite on the ring. This game has been such a fucking waste of time, to be honest it has been my biggest waste of time on fucking years... so much shit to learn and some things are a pain in the ass to figure out so I have expended a lot of time watching videos and following tutorial or what not on posts in order to figure shit out. What a game.......
So as I do not know where to better ask this... I currently have access to the Federal Corvette(don’t have one as yet though), while also owning an Anaconda and a Python(the latter currently being stored near Sol), and have not undertaken the Empire ranks yet. Which of those should I use for mining purposes, since I have no access to a Clipper or Cutter yet and I want to make the Anaconda an exploration vessel proper?
The Anaconda or the Python make good miners. The biggest difference is the Anaconda can hold more collectors and prospectors as well as cargo and still maintain a better jump range. The Python makes an excellent miner though and has access to jump to the M pads if those have the best price. I am typically ready to do something else once I have my Python loaded, but the extra loadout options of the Anaconda is how I mine these days.
:( the bindings got fked in the new expansion now it next to impossible to figure out how to rebind everything also now when I bind stuff they active everything else along with it unless you press it specifically directional first then button it's so frustrating that they include the timing of inpute when registering bindings.
Also... I outfitted my cutter to be able to laser/subsurface/core mine. I think I started filling a lot faster as soon as I ran out of sub surface ammo. And that's with only 2 lasers. I guess I'll go for the 4 lasers as well next time. Maybe filling those 512T will be less painful
Don't go 4 lasers, stick with 3. Also, make sure none of your mining lasers are on the nacelles, the latest patch changed where the chunks are ejected from the asteroid. The cutter overheats running 4x 2D Mining Lasers, plus you'll drain the cap before you can finish the asteroid. It's a lot faster than just 2 lasers, but it's not as efficient as 3. You're also short on limpets to run 4 lasers efficiently. 9 limpets is fine for 3 mining lasers, not enough for 4... of course, I am assuming you've got your optional internals loaded up similar to mine: 2x class 8 cargo racks, class 6 shield (using 6C Biweave on mine), class 6 fuel scoop, 3x class 5A collector limpet controllers, class 3 refinery, and a class 3A prospector limpet controller. I had 4x 2D Mining Lasers on my cutter, but I had to disable one because the overheating then waiting on limpets to finish collecting chunks after depleting an asteroid got too annoying for me. 3 lasers and you have basically 0 downtime. No real waiting for collectors to finish to move on, no waiting for your ship to cool down and your capacitor to recharge when the asteroid still has 50% resources remaining in it. (edit to add) Of course if you have your own fleet carrier in the system you are mining in, you don't need to bother with a fuel scoop, so you could ditch the scoop for another collector. You do have to fully engineer your power distributor to handle the load of 4 mining lasers, as well as other engineering for your ship to handle the heat better. I haven't gotten around to finishing the engineering on my Cutter yet.
@CSJ thanks again. I just read this but I ended up going with 3 lasers anyway when I realized the mount placement. We do have the same internals. Dunno why I think that my refinery was class 4 but I'm not in the pc atm. Should be the best one I could fit with 10 bins anyway. I just got the game a couple of weeks ago and didn't get horizons at the time, so sadly no engineering, no fleet and no nothing... but I'm waiting for the next sale to get it. Damn, I didn't know how much I was gonna miss when I got it. But well, I also didn't know I was gonna get that hooked to this game. I was testing it last night and was mid cargo when my connection timed out and now I'm afraid to log in again xD Should I wait for a scan and try to outrun them? Or spawn and boost right away... or just give up and jump to the sell asap. My top speed i think was something around 340.
@@jgomezmoreu Actually, your refinery will be class 4 if it has 10 bins. For some reason I was thinking the cutter had two class 3 internals, but it has 1 class 3 and 1 class 4, putting the prospector limpet in the class 3 and refinery in the class 4 makes more sense. The cutter is one of the few ships out there that using a class 4 refinery makes sense, because the amount of bins the refinery has only goes up by 2 per class where cargo racks double per class upgrade. A 1A Refinery has 4 bins vs. 2 ton capacity of a 1E Cargo Rack. 4A Refinery has 10 bins, while a 4E Cargo Rack can hold 16 tons. Class 3 is where the refinery and cargo racks hold the same amount (8 bins/8 tons). There was a sever hiccup last night, I got booted when I was mining too. I logged back in right after and boosted out of the rings then made my way to my selling station. What I would suggest would be to boost out of the rings and jump to supercruise. Wait a second after you're in supercruise then dethrottle and drop back out of supercruise, plot a course to your selling location then start jumping. I recommend dropping back out of supercruise because it'll buy you time to plot your route without worrying about being initerdicted before you can get your route plotted. Because you don't have engineering, you won't be able to outrun the pirates if you get scanned, so they will follow you out of the rings. You can do that before the pirates will be able to drop on your low wake, they also cant interdict you in normal space. Unfortunately, the price on Painite has dropped to the usual sub 800k/ton now, so you won't be able to get as much for whatever you've currently got than you could have gotten yesterday. You'll definitely want to pick up Horizons as soon as you can, because you're really hindered in the game right now as it sits without it.
You have to be in dual overlapping spots. Go in about halfway between the two spots, but drop into a part of the ring that is dark (not lit up by the hotspot glow from the surface scanner). Hyades Sector DB-X d1-112 planet 2 is the spot I go to and I always drop into the unlit part of the rings. The gap between the rings isn't really a gap, in terms of Painite, it's where the higher concentrations are. Keep the outer hotspot targeted and travel along the ring keeping yourself oriented so that the planet is just on the right (or left) side of your screen. It's definitely not nerfed. It hasn't changed much at all since the FC update 3. I was just in there earlier today and mining at a rate of over 200 tons per hour, and I'm not a fast laser miner. The very first rock I shot a prospector limpet into was 45% Painite and net 15 tons refined. While I didn't hit any rocks that were over 60% today, I hit a lot more in the high 40's and low 50's than I normally do, so it worked out to about the same as pre FC update 4.
the overlaps got "Readjusted", i think all the way across the board, even painite. I'm still trying to find out if single hotspots are faster than overlaps.. In single spot tritium, i'm able to find more rocks than in overlaps at the moment, so it seems like FDev has gimped Overlaps.
@@ChrisFaulkner I was just mining Painite earlier in a dual overlap, and it was going same speed I was going before the last patch at over 200 tons per hour, and I am not a fast miner. Painite overlap mining was working fine post FC Update 3, and hasn't changed with FC Update 4. Like I said, if FC Update 3 did impact Painite mining, it did so little as to be not noticeable.
Make a diamondback explorer and make it with high jump range. Then jump to the nearest station to the overlap area and pay transport your miner to the local station. While you wait for it to come you can do some exploring with the diamondback
Same happened to me the other day. It wasn't a dual hot spot though. I only went through about 30 limpets though. So I jumped over to a platinum "hot spot" nearby and guess what, and no platinum. Going to look for a better spot. Waste of time though.
No... no... no... engineer those guns into a PvE configuration. At that point, pirates become in-flight entertainment on the way back to the sell station. Especially in a cutter.
Unless they hit you with a hatch breaker and you poop out a few million credits worth of ore during your "entertainment". I would advise avoiding them.
Ive got my Vette fitted with 2 sub surface, 3 lasers, 1 seismic and 1 abrasion. This was my LTD ship.. before.. you know.. So my question is. With Painite mining is it not worth the sub surface and asteroid cracking? Or is it simply better to lob Prospectors out at any random roid till i find decent painite percentages?
Great vid as ever thanks D2EA. I do really hope some solid balancing will happen soon though. Elite is about nothing but mining these days, everything else has little point towards any type of advancement (engineering not withstanding). so many other types of gameplay seem oddly ignored by FDev? Oh well, heres hoping.
One thing that I never can really grasp is how many prospector and collector limpets I should be bringing with me to a hotspot overlap? I'm in a Python right now. Thanks to anyone that can help
As far as collector controllers, I was told you would be looking to bring 1x 3A rated collector per Large mining laser on your ship. I usually fill half my cargo bay with limpets on the way out, and start tossing them as my bay fills up.
TH-camrs mining..."Oh painite on our first asteroid" Reality.... "Indite, okay. On to the next one, Indite again. Next.....fucking Indite again" I spend more time restocking my limpets than actual mining
I've tried mining 3 different times and I NEVER find anything that's supposed to be in the hot spot. I've tried diamonds once and painite twice now. I've used hundreds of prospector 3a limpets and never once found a single asteroid with diamonds in the ltd hotspots or painite in any of the 4 different painite hot spots. Any idea what is up with this? I'm about to completely give up on it. I've watched probably over a dozen videos from different people with different approaches and read a novella's worth of info and still can't get anything.
It means you are getting fucked by this game. Just find a different game to play, after watching this(along with several other tutorials) and having 0 success with mining I'm done with this fucking game. I'm pretty much on the same spot than you just that I'm fucking done man.
during my last couple of runs, I found a painite core and painite SSD. I decomm'd all of my non-laser hardpoints after the various nerfs so I had no way of extracting either. I still carry the pulsewave though, in case core/SSD becomes profitable again. Core and SSD is way more interesting than laser/surface :/
I built a Dolphin mining ship as per this channel, went to where the EDTOOLS miners tool recommended (GCRV 1568) and spent hours and hours firing prospector limpets at the Painite hotspot central area asteroids. After about 4 hours of this I gave up. I tried all the Painite areas the scan showed, but found nothing but rubbish, not one bit of Painite. Maybe the chance of finding this has been really lowered (Sat Nov 2020), but based on what I tried I wouldn't bother. Only having had the game a week I find the mining a massive disappointment and a waste of about 8 hours of game play to just lose money.
Ok, but i'm dropping into painite hotspots, also tried overlapping ones from the same website, and i havent seen a single asteroid that contained painite. I found a gold mine, literally, while trying an ltd hotspot cuse i always found painite there before the nerf, but nothing. I wish i did the engineering grind before now, I JUST NEED 10T OF PAINITE!
Just my opinion but I think anything less that 100 T for cargo isnt worth it considering the time you will spend doing it. Of course if you are starting out in the game then its not possible to get a big enough ship yet . Im currently using my Krait mk2 with 140 T of space Its fine for now . Python would be a bit better but Ive got this now and Ive used it for a variety of things .
I have a question that I can’t find the answer to: I tried this yesterday and got really good results in a double overlap hotspot, are there any triple overlapping hotspots for pianote and if so where are they. (Maybe mot and I’m just so used to LtDs lol)
I don't really know because I think if there are it would be all over Reddit on the elite miners group and of course in TH-cam but this is just my opinion and I don't really know.
Hey bud I have went to the same location you where talked about as it says on the miners guide its the place to go but there is no planet like the one in this video plus there is no double resources and the colour of the plants are different from the colour of the plant your mining at and your mining in hr and its hip where I am can you help me out here as I am completely confused now lol 😂
Last Painite run encountered interesting bug. Have 4x 2 grade mining lasers, after draining all power two of lasers switched off two kept going without power. And it kept mining.
I don't think it's a bug, the rate of recharge via the power distributor is only good enough to keep the two lasers running. I've done it multiple of times now whenever I exhaust the energy capacitors.
Probably not a bug. Next time you're out, turn off two of your mining lasers at the start and see if your capacitor energy drains. Your power distributor has probably just enough charging capacity to keep two of your lasers powered indefinitely, so when your capacitor charge drains two of your lasers shut down but the distributor can still keep firing the other two.
I have gone to the planet on the website. It said A6 ring A for the system I'm in. Not sure what ring A is as there is nothing called that. I assume it means the inner or outer ring. I have fired about 50 prospectors and haven't found any panite. What am I doing wrong? I know I'm in the right system and at the right planet in the rings. At the high resource site even in that time.
What you are most likely doing wrong is what this "guide" completely left out which is how to scan for the hotspots. You don't want to use the pre-marked Resource Extraction Sites, but instead use the Detailed Surface Scanner to scan the rings which will show specific resource hotspots.
@@JohnVanderbeck I already figured it out. That was exactly it. TY. I appreciate people who make videos. But hate when the creator doesnt take the time to think about it from the eyes of the student. I don't care how much someone knows if they can't translate that into a good lesson. Thanks John V.
It seems that they have also nerfed painite mining, a couple weeks ago it was easy to find stations buying painite for 800k/ton within 50 light-years of the overlapping hotspots, today the mining tool showed the nearest good sell location was 150ly away and it was only for 650k/ton. The supply wasn't even that good either
I feel like painite prices vary HEAVILY. I think you have to be really quick with selling because I was too late and ended up selling my full cargo for 300k
There is still too much RNG is involved such as in first half of hour i couldn't find much Painite only could collect 50 of them so i was literally getting mad then my luck changed i collected 320 in a hour which makes sense i guess but it is much lower than before, i even doubted if i entered a Painite hotspot several times...
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One important bit of instructions left out by this guide is how to actually scan for the hotspots. I think many people coming here expecting to see a complete How To are not necessarily aware of how to do so. To scan for hotspots, you need to use the Details Surface Scanner and launch a probe, just one, into the rings of the planet. That will then scan them and specific resource hotspots will appear.
I learned that myself after some trial and error and wasting some time and money.
If the planet has multiple rings A B C ect- u need a probe in each ring
@@planexshifter I also wish that the video explained that there are multiple rings and they are called A, B, C, etc. It took me a little to figure that out too. At this point, I have mining down and am making money but it was difficult at the start, even with this video. It left out some key things.
@@planexshifter No you don't. Or at least, I never have had to. One probe does them all in my experience.
@@JohnVanderbeck no he is right, in your experience if you launched a probe and scanned all the way it means that planet you went to has only one ring.
This channel is absolutely the most factual one. No bullshit for entertainment, just plain good info. Exactly what I want. Thank you :)
As a returning Elite player (after 3ish years off) this guide was super helpful. Thank you for breaking down some of the more subtle details, such as exactly how many collector limpets per laser, aiming for the rotation axis of the asteroid, etc. Great vid, subscribed.
After watching your Painite live stream and this video I just did 262t in 65 minutes :) That's a full cargo and full 6-bin refinery in my all-purpose mining Anaconda (does Void and SSD as well). I was about to post that I thought 200-300t per hours was a bit optimistic. I have been mining Painite all last week, but I only had a 5C Prospector, 2 x 5C collectors and 1 x 5A collector. I watched this video, where you again make the point about the 5A Prospector, and thought: "Test it properly first!". I did, and you are of course right :)
It is definitely worth the effort of finding a station with "A" rated prospectors and collectors.
Thanks :)
I was kinda skeptical of using more than one collection limpet controller but holy cow does it make it so much more enjoyable. Thanks for the guide!
A dolphin! Well yes why not mine in style and in supreme comfort as you relax and are fed grapes and wine 🍷
I could seriously go for that right now. Wine and grapes sound good as long as the grapes are good.
Posh and pretty, yet effective. Why not? : )
FYI, never buy on sale grapes. They are usually bad.
When I started mining, 2 weeks ago, I got a Dolphin.
Then, I upgraded to a Beluga.
Can't beat mining on a luxury cruise vessel
Don't hate on dolphins. Orca's are decent mining ships as well. They also run cool af, so you're not a huge target to NPC pirates.
I finally went into mining after seeing this video (New Player and a huge Fan - I love your Videos!) and it was a desaster. After finding a Platinum Hotspot I mananged to prospect 100(!) asteroids and there was not one who contained said precious element (reinstanced several times). I went out with my Python and 192 limpets. After all I gathered some gold and some silver but those 2h rewarded me with about 5 million credits - not very much... Maybe I missed something mayor or RNGesus did not like me after all. To be honest this might have been my first and last mining trip. All the best from Switzerland! - Cmdr Brunhilfe von Schaft
Also recommend going ahead and bringing an abrasion blaster and/or a subsurface displacement missile if you have room, for when your prospector finds those deposits. No sense leaving perfectly good Painite sitting on or just below the surface.
one reason the cutter excels at surface mining. 4 med lasers one abrasion, subsurface and seismic launchers
Something I don't think you addressed (might have missed it on my first watch, also most players know this by now) is the fact that wing mining is more efficient for two reasons. Not only do rocks drop everyone the same amount of chunks as it would have if you were alone, most importantly the prospecting process is much quicker with a bunch of extra people. Also, if you want to help out a new player make money your collectors will quickly pick up their chunks. So these players can focus on cargo space before having tons of collectors, essentially just increasing the chunk output. It's especially practical if you have a Fleet Carrier to allow you to easily split the loot at the end using your market as proxy for cargo transfer, otherwise you have to wait around for a small amount of collectors to pick up their share.
True, when it comes 2 carriers - I am convinced the best use for a carrier is as a mobile base. You get spotting & prospecting with a small ship with good jump, after you discover a "sweet place" you call in the "mobile base" and you fill your pockets.
of all the others channels you're my go to guy when i need serious answers. keep up the good work. much appreciated.
Ya know, instead of nerfing mining all the time why don't the devs actually make the other professions pay more than pennies per hour? I guess that is just asking too much from Fdev lol
fucking right?
ive been saying this since getting into the game.
I've been saying that for years upon years.
I feel this so much. my favorite thing to do that paid decent was pve piracy.... and we all know thats just fucking broken
Mining used to pay next to nothing until core-able asteroids were introduced. It's still the best viable way to make credits. I do wish they would balance core-ables better now. They seem almost impossible to find now. I'd rather them be more common but lower the sell prices on Opals and LTDs.
I was laser mining with my T9 out at Hyades Sector DB-X d1-112 just yesterday; did in excess of 350 mil in one run. Painite laser mining is the perfect "turn brain off and relax" money making activity. If you use a T9 upgrade your FSD or you'll be hating life. Cheers!
That's the spot I have been going in my Cutter, and I agree on the 'turn brain off and relax' comment. That's what I do when I am there, I find it quite relaxing. I would probably find it more frustrating than relaxing in a Type 9 though. My hat's off to you, I used one for hauling Tritium before they borked supply and demand with FCU3, its significantly less maneuverable than the Cutter.
Been playing for a few days, been mining painite and selling to a fleet carrier buying for 716k and already in a fully fit and tanked out mining anaconda. Almost at 2 bill now.
...how do you sell to carriers?
@@SandyCheeks1896 dock at the carrier, go to commodities and if they have orders up you can just click how much you want to sell. One of the systems I found, carriers were named something like, “716k for painite” some are more active than others
@@dyzze9696 ok, I’ve been looking for the opportunity to sell my ltd but haven’t seen any carriers buying. Do you know the best thing to mine right now? I’m only getting like 20 ltd per hour.
@@SandyCheeks1896 my guide has been TH-cam. Have had lots of luck with painite and a few active carriers selling for 700k. Also some recent videos of people mining LTD and selling for 1 to 2 mill per unit. Haven’t dabbled into Ltd mining yet, but if you google or TH-cam it, you’ll find it. Still a lot of active streamers givin out solid info
@@dyzze9696 gotcha, I’m going to switch to painite. I keep getting dud “hot spots” with Ltd and waste my time and get 20 per hour.
Even at the current prices for Painite, it is very easy to go from a mining Adder to an Asp and then to an Anaconda in just a couple of runs per ship. Great video! I just started with Zemina Torval yesterday and I can't wait to get my mining lances in a month.
2020 is bad year so we go back to 2019 lifestyle
Thanks for the info. I've started out mining and still trying to find my way around. Was able to mine 15t of LTDs and sold them for 615K /t but heard from a friend he was getting over 1Million/t a few months back. Really enjoying the game and seeing all the helpful videos on TH-cam kind of helps to immerse you further into the game.
i go for 20% and more rocks and its really great. Filling cargo very fast.
@Space Man i used to do that as well but then i tried 20% and up and its not bad.
I've been having pretty good luck with painite. I park my FC real close to the mining spot, pull my cutter out and mine as long as I want to, come back, and dump the load on my FC. Also been mining Platnium along with it just for some residual income, doesn't pay as much but it's nice to have some other stock on hand. Thank you for the video!
I seem to always run out of limpets way before my cargo hold is full. Even when bringing 180 of them to an overlapping hotspot they just melt away, and as far as I know none of them hit the rocks.
I usually fill up to 325 limpets in my 512 ton cargo capacity Cutter and end up having to jettison a few near the end.
I'm fairly new at this and I also tend to run out of limpets, but to fill my refinery. Cargo always get full.
Just tried the cutter for the first time today and had to throw away like 150 limpets because I was getting full.cargo and refinery all the time. In the end I left with 2 refinery slots empty
I also use to do tht so i just figured limpets are cheap fill up and jettison as you need space
@@C-S-J I started with 450 so the math checks out.
Are you targeting the painite fragments and then launching your collector limpets? If so, then the limpets will bring you only that 1 fragment and then immediately expire. I did that in the start and didn't understand why i ran out of limpets so quickly.
make sure you're not targeting any fragments, just keep it on the prospector (or nothing at all) and then launch your collector limpets and they will collect all fragments automatically, make sure to put unwanted material fragments on ignore list, so gathering the material you want goes alot quicker :)
I went mining for the first time today, mostly been grinding federation and empire rank until now. One thing confuses me. In each of the two runs, my first two prospector limpets had no issues. But everyone after that, after the 'programming message', I'd hear "Prospector limpet failed", but it fired and function normally. What gives?
Great videos! You're right up there with Exigeous & Hawkes Gaming as my Go-to sources.
Your limpet controller can only handle two limpets at the same time. When you already have two prospector limpets out, sending out another one causes the first one to fail. So it's nothing to worry about.
@@Anoburn Thank you!
can u help me? i went to a hotspot but i never found any painite. what i need to do?
This guide is very helpfull for a beginner like me, there are guides out there that all tell you to go low tempature diamond mining, but there is only so much i can do with an Adder cargo space wise and with limpets amounts, and I have spend more time travelling and getting interdicted then mining xD. i guess i will give this a try. looking forward to that beginner guide.
Great video very interesting as i have never tried mining, would be interesting to see a small ship built for the purpose without engineering.
You dont really need to engineer anything unless you are playing PvP or really can't handle short jump range...even then you can get by relatively well with nothing engineered at all. I still only routinely only run with my fsd engineered.
You can mine in something like a Cobra if you want. I think a Cobra can fit around 32 tons of cargo with a fuel scoop so you can easily get 20-30 million worth in about 20 minutes. Engineering isn't necessary for mining.
@@ahuryn19 Yeah, Cobra is 32+6 tons (6 in the refinery) keeping shields and a fuel scoop. The Dolphin can do 48+6 tons for about a 500k higher initial investment. Biggest problem with the Dolphin is it's got only two small hard points, so you're limited to class 1 mining lasers. The Dolphin can run three collector limpets though, the Cobra is limited to a single one.
@@C-S-J For my taste, smaller ships should be dedicated to deep core mining instead of laser mining
@@SilentKillerPrince Most people starting with a small ship are beginners at mining; core mining is more advanced, so it's not really recommended for beginners. The small ships are fine for getting started in to earn you enough quickly to move on to bigger and better ships.
I do agree small ships are definitely better suited to core and sub-surface mining, maneuverability matters there. They are perfectly fine at laser mining too though. It only takes two asteroids with 50% Painite to fill the cargo hold of a Cobra with laser mining, you get about 1 ton per 3% concentration.
this channel is a blessing. thank you sir
He helping me a lot for real
Down to earth astronomy got me into E:D and made sure i don't suck at it : )
Ive been doing this for the past week and ive been racking in the space bucks like a champ. Thanks for the extra help I didn't know I needed o7
Please do a “all the tips and tricks.” I have copied your “favorite mining ship” python build exactly aside from a few of the engineerings (weight reductions etc, I’ve got the power ones and so on) and I’m no where close to 200T/hour. It’s more like 180T/3hours.
Yeah, me too maybe i need to be more selective and only mine the high percentage rocks...
I just did a run in my t9 and got 440t in about 2h15m its alittle harder in the medium ships but still doable. Its just about luck and more so efficiency! U need the best laser build to deplete it as quick as possible but also enough limpits so it finishes as close to the same time as possible, already have ur prospectors out so youb already know where your going next then pips back to engine then boost to the next. Cargo scoop(air break) back down, full reverse . All pips to shields. Crash... preferably at the point of axis of asteroid to make collection safer and quicker then start mining... now repeat. To get the tons they talk about in the vids i find you have to be going full on
Same we’re missing something, or fumbling somewhere idk
Mined my first painite asteroid and wondered why I didn't end up with any in my inventory, or even my refinery. Then I noticed painite was in my collector ignore list, so I had to sit and wait while the collectors grabbed the whole yield, which was just floating around out there.
Best mining ship for newbie players is AspExploer, I have got 300Mil in 4 hours, after that you can move to Type9Heavy and mine load of painite.
I am not having any luck with this 0_0 I have my asp explorer kitted out for mining, but found no Painite astroids exactly where he was. Any ideas?
@@johanndebeer4453 Make sure you are using your surface scanner on the rings and then dropping out at an actual hotspot (and make sure it's Painite too!). You should be able to find Painite in each rock or every second rock at best. The worst streak I've had was about 6 asteroids with no painite.
@@asd1o1 i trying this and i ran out of prospectors. Not 1 asteroid had it.
First :) Watched your Painite mining stream last night. Will try it. Haven't mined for ages. Grats on 60k subs.
Do you hope that being first will bring your absent father back?
@@Skylingale Say what?
Hi i was wondering what does the (M) and (L) stand for next to the sell stations?
I'm a italian guy and i not understand well english languages but, i want tell you thx for this guide.
Hi, I can’t find these smaller ship mining builds. I am using a krait and wanted to get into laser mining for painite. Do I always need to look for dual hotspots? Single hot spots, I find very very little painite asteroids.
just want to thank you for all your hard work
I like to use an asp explorer for my mining ship; 72T cargo and 2x2D mining lasers.
I tried a couple of Painite hotspots and I came up with zippo. Never even found 1 rock with a painite percentage. Got my cutter all geared up once I figure out where to mine.
Same here, any luck yet?
@@iseverynametakenwtf1 Oh yeah. I was able to get enough to buy a fleet carrier. Now my carrier sits in system to buy painite until it’s full then I sell it for profit. Check out Col 285 Sector wp-e c12-17. A great double painite hotspot. Swing by my carrier, Pay-Knight if you’re needing to sell 😃
@@Jeradactile hell yeah commander. I'll sell it all to you. Just tell me you provide limpits
@@iseverynametakenwtf1 oh absolutely!! I just don’t do shipyards, but refueling, repairs, limpets. All the necessities 😁
@@Jeradactile I'm heading there now. 25 jumps from Ray's Station. Hope this is a good spot. Last one only the inner ring had anything. Wasted two hours looking in the "hot spot" to find out it wasn't for laser mining, but deep core mining
You’re not a dish, you’re a miner.. no wait.
How exactly do you find the spots listed on the site?
9:03 definetly python for medium size ships
If you find a new over lapping system whats the best way to report system, i found some out in the black
Thank you for all your hard work. Liked and subbed.
Corvette is ranked up there with anaconda for mining. I found it to be excellent for mining so I bought two corvette, one for mining and one for fighting. Check it out sir thank you keep up the good work cheers 🥂
Thanks for the video. So the scan wave is useless for that? (I know it 's for core but I thought it detected also rich asteroid, so i was thinking it could show rich painite asteroid ?! ) I would like to know also if we still "dive" in the overlapped area and if we have to avoid the center of the yellow zone ? thanks again
You should still use overlaps as i gives a bonus amount of rock and material you get. The bonus has been greatly reduced in the latest patch, but it's still bonus
The Pulse Wave Scanner does nothing for detecting higher concentrations of ores, so for straight laser mining it's worthless.
But you can find sub surface deposits with it if you want something more than aimless click click click.
@@jgomezmoreu Not of anything useful in Painite hotspots. It's worthless when you're mining Painite.
@@C-S-J subsurface painite mining is not that bad. I was filling my python almost as fast as laser mining and using almost half of the limpets.
But thats also why I said "if you want something other than aimless click click"
I think is a decent alternative. Wouldn't really call it worthless.
Once again, in the python. The cutter was a pain to move around.
Also, does it matter if there are a lot of other people mining in a location? I know that for mother lodes, more people deplete a location faster, but does this also apply for laser mining?
Do you have any recommendations on how to balance the number of limpets for each trip, especially when you are only going for a certain percentage of mineral?
Just fill the hold. You can always sell the extras for no loss when you have the materials you went for. Always better to have too many than too few.
Fill the hold you will go through them quick. And you can always jettison some if you need space. It's better to have too many limpets than too little
A small ship mining guide would certainly be a great idea.
Also, just for the record, I've had a COMPLETELY different experience mining out in the black, specifically in the PHROEA BLI region. Tritium seems reasonably plentiful and I did find some low temp diamonds, but I also tried finding minerals in hotspots of Benitoite, Muskgravite, AND Painite. Shot prospector after prospector for roughly 15- 20 minutes each and found ton after ton of garbage minerals but ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of those minerals in their hotspots. Ridiculous...
Literally just visited a Painite hotspot two jumps from Lumastya and went through 50 prospector limpets which turned up zero Painite. Loads of Osmium, Gold, Silver etc etc but no Painite. And yes, It was 100% a Painite hotspot on the ring I surface scanned. Just no Painite after prospecting the shit out of what must have been every asteroid within 5km of the hotspot location marker.
I have been to 32 three different painite hotspots and haven't found any painite
Find a painite hotspot in a metallic ring (NOT metal rich), with pristine reserves.
I would be most interested in a small ship mining build! Thanks for the vid.
The same rules apply to any ship size
Hey, the mining tool gave me non pristine location, should I make sure I go to a pristine one for this? I'm new so I'm uncertain about all the details.
Just something I wonder can I mine void opals with lasers and where do I find a triple hotspot for void opals?
I have used over 400 limpets prospecting in a hotspot, and have yet to find 1 rock with painite. What am i doing wrong? Because by now i could have made 100mill doing explo
Nice simple explanation for mining ⚒ so thanks and I would like to see a build for the cutler if you can with no engineering and love your videos
That is one beautiful ship! 1:58
Is void opal diamonds still a good money making option?
great guide as usual. thanks man appreciate your videos
It took me several hours to farm all of the money for the equipment, it then took me a while to get to the proper system and ring... it also took me a while to figure out how to use the fucking scanner and the fact that I had to set up the keys to yaw or whatever when using the drone.
Now I know what the hot spot for Painite is, used around 14 prospector drones and found ZERO FUCKING painite on the ring.
This game has been such a fucking waste of time, to be honest it has been my biggest waste of time on fucking years... so much shit to learn and some things are a pain in the ass to figure out so I have expended a lot of time watching videos and following tutorial or what not on posts in order to figure shit out.
What a game.......
So as I do not know where to better ask this... I currently have access to the Federal Corvette(don’t have one as yet though), while also owning an Anaconda and a Python(the latter currently being stored near Sol), and have not undertaken the Empire ranks yet. Which of those should I use for mining purposes, since I have no access to a Clipper or Cutter yet and I want to make the Anaconda an exploration vessel proper?
The Anaconda or the Python make good miners. The biggest difference is the Anaconda can hold more collectors and prospectors as well as cargo and still maintain a better jump range. The Python makes an excellent miner though and has access to jump to the M pads if those have the best price. I am typically ready to do something else once I have my Python loaded, but the extra loadout options of the Anaconda is how I mine these days.
Im rather new to the game but what ship(Golddigger) are you using?
:( the bindings got fked in the new expansion now it next to impossible to figure out how to rebind everything also now when I bind stuff they active everything else along with it unless you press it specifically directional first then button it's so frustrating that they include the timing of inpute when registering bindings.
does having more mining lasers do anything or is it ok if i have 1 2d mining laser?
your build is not in desciption
Great video for beginners , great Chanel to follow, keep up the good job!
Good guide. The prices on eddb and tools are mostly wrong though.
Really nice guide. I've got a mineaconda kitted out to try. How many limpets do you typically carry for an hour of mining?
Just fill up your cargo. Limpets are almost free and you can always jettison some if you have too many
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy rgr, tyvm
Also... I outfitted my cutter to be able to laser/subsurface/core mine.
I think I started filling a lot faster as soon as I ran out of sub surface ammo. And that's with only 2 lasers.
I guess I'll go for the 4 lasers as well next time. Maybe filling those 512T will be less painful
Don't go 4 lasers, stick with 3. Also, make sure none of your mining lasers are on the nacelles, the latest patch changed where the chunks are ejected from the asteroid. The cutter overheats running 4x 2D Mining Lasers, plus you'll drain the cap before you can finish the asteroid. It's a lot faster than just 2 lasers, but it's not as efficient as 3. You're also short on limpets to run 4 lasers efficiently. 9 limpets is fine for 3 mining lasers, not enough for 4... of course, I am assuming you've got your optional internals loaded up similar to mine: 2x class 8 cargo racks, class 6 shield (using 6C Biweave on mine), class 6 fuel scoop, 3x class 5A collector limpet controllers, class 3 refinery, and a class 3A prospector limpet controller.
I had 4x 2D Mining Lasers on my cutter, but I had to disable one because the overheating then waiting on limpets to finish collecting chunks after depleting an asteroid got too annoying for me. 3 lasers and you have basically 0 downtime. No real waiting for collectors to finish to move on, no waiting for your ship to cool down and your capacitor to recharge when the asteroid still has 50% resources remaining in it.
(edit to add) Of course if you have your own fleet carrier in the system you are mining in, you don't need to bother with a fuel scoop, so you could ditch the scoop for another collector. You do have to fully engineer your power distributor to handle the load of 4 mining lasers, as well as other engineering for your ship to handle the heat better. I haven't gotten around to finishing the engineering on my Cutter yet.
@CSJ thanks again.
I just read this but I ended up going with 3 lasers anyway when I realized the mount placement. We do have the same internals. Dunno why I think that my refinery was class 4 but I'm not in the pc atm. Should be the best one I could fit with 10 bins anyway.
I just got the game a couple of weeks ago and didn't get horizons at the time, so sadly no engineering, no fleet and no nothing... but I'm waiting for the next sale to get it.
Damn, I didn't know how much I was gonna miss when I got it. But well, I also didn't know I was gonna get that hooked to this game.
I was testing it last night and was mid cargo when my connection timed out and now I'm afraid to log in again xD
Should I wait for a scan and try to outrun them? Or spawn and boost right away... or just give up and jump to the sell asap.
My top speed i think was something around 340.
@@jgomezmoreu Actually, your refinery will be class 4 if it has 10 bins. For some reason I was thinking the cutter had two class 3 internals, but it has 1 class 3 and 1 class 4, putting the prospector limpet in the class 3 and refinery in the class 4 makes more sense. The cutter is one of the few ships out there that using a class 4 refinery makes sense, because the amount of bins the refinery has only goes up by 2 per class where cargo racks double per class upgrade. A 1A Refinery has 4 bins vs. 2 ton capacity of a 1E Cargo Rack. 4A Refinery has 10 bins, while a 4E Cargo Rack can hold 16 tons. Class 3 is where the refinery and cargo racks hold the same amount (8 bins/8 tons).
There was a sever hiccup last night, I got booted when I was mining too. I logged back in right after and boosted out of the rings then made my way to my selling station. What I would suggest would be to boost out of the rings and jump to supercruise. Wait a second after you're in supercruise then dethrottle and drop back out of supercruise, plot a course to your selling location then start jumping. I recommend dropping back out of supercruise because it'll buy you time to plot your route without worrying about being initerdicted before you can get your route plotted. Because you don't have engineering, you won't be able to outrun the pirates if you get scanned, so they will follow you out of the rings. You can do that before the pirates will be able to drop on your low wake, they also cant interdict you in normal space. Unfortunately, the price on Painite has dropped to the usual sub 800k/ton now, so you won't be able to get as much for whatever you've currently got than you could have gotten yesterday.
You'll definitely want to pick up Horizons as soon as you can, because you're really hindered in the game right now as it sits without it.
Will do. At least I'll get enough pocket money to go pirate hunting and not worry about repair/rebuy/restock costs for a while.
I've tried multiple hotspots in the past few days and never found even one ton of painite so either its already nerfed or I'm doing something wrong
Try dropping exactly in the middle of the hotspot
the same ;/
You have to be in dual overlapping spots. Go in about halfway between the two spots, but drop into a part of the ring that is dark (not lit up by the hotspot glow from the surface scanner). Hyades Sector DB-X d1-112 planet 2 is the spot I go to and I always drop into the unlit part of the rings. The gap between the rings isn't really a gap, in terms of Painite, it's where the higher concentrations are. Keep the outer hotspot targeted and travel along the ring keeping yourself oriented so that the planet is just on the right (or left) side of your screen.
It's definitely not nerfed. It hasn't changed much at all since the FC update 3. I was just in there earlier today and mining at a rate of over 200 tons per hour, and I'm not a fast laser miner. The very first rock I shot a prospector limpet into was 45% Painite and net 15 tons refined. While I didn't hit any rocks that were over 60% today, I hit a lot more in the high 40's and low 50's than I normally do, so it worked out to about the same as pre FC update 4.
@@C-S-J Hmm, Hawkes Gaming mining guides recommends going to a bright yellow ring segment to mine, but you go to the dark one's?
@@alexanderaxglimt3945 For Painite, yes, you want the bright part of the rings for LTD.
I thought the overlapping hotspots got killed?
The patch that altered LTD hotspots did nothing to Painite, or if it did, it did _very_ little.
the overlaps got "Readjusted", i think all the way across the board, even painite. I'm still trying to find out if single hotspots are faster than overlaps.. In single spot tritium, i'm able to find more rocks than in overlaps at the moment, so it seems like FDev has gimped Overlaps.
@@ChrisFaulkner I was just mining Painite earlier in a dual overlap, and it was going same speed I was going before the last patch at over 200 tons per hour, and I am not a fast miner. Painite overlap mining was working fine post FC Update 3, and hasn't changed with FC Update 4. Like I said, if FC Update 3 did impact Painite mining, it did so little as to be not noticeable.
I am not having any luck with this 0_0 I have my asp explorer kitted out for mining, but found no Painite astroids exactly where he was. Any ideas?
I perfer panite mining since the systems with hot spots are much more common than those with LTD, meaning I dont have to jump 300Ly every time 😂
Make a diamondback explorer and make it with high jump range. Then jump to the nearest station to the overlap area and pay transport your miner to the local station. While you wait for it to come you can do some exploring with the diamondback
Everyone hates on the Type-7 but I enjoy mining away in a ring system with it.
I went to Panite hotspot and didn't find any rock containing Panite, used over 100 limpets and still didn't find anything.
Same happened to me the other day. It wasn't a dual hot spot though. I only went through about 30 limpets though. So I jumped over to a platinum "hot spot" nearby and guess what, and no platinum. Going to look for a better spot. Waste of time though.
What is different between ltd and painite minign builds?
Brain
Great video, but So Sad for us Core Miners!
Nerfed to Death...
And the Stations not meeting Recent Updated Prices - half even!
If i have active limpits i mine any value, better in the bin than left behind
MASSIVE DOUBLE PAINITE HOTSPOT: *HYADES SECTOR DB-X D1-112* (second planet from sun)
Yep, that's where i'm mining rn. Good prices within 120 ly too
If you dont have fleet carrier, instead of 5a limpet controller use a fuel scoop.
No... no... no... engineer those guns into a PvE configuration. At that point, pirates become in-flight entertainment on the way back to the sell station. Especially in a cutter.
Unless they hit you with a hatch breaker and you poop out a few million credits worth of ore during your "entertainment". I would advise avoiding them.
@@25xxfrostxx ecm and point defense turret could easily deal with that
Ive got my Vette fitted with 2 sub surface, 3 lasers, 1 seismic and 1 abrasion. This was my LTD ship.. before.. you know.. So my question is. With Painite mining is it not worth the sub surface and asteroid cracking? Or is it simply better to lob Prospectors out at any random roid till i find decent painite percentages?
Just mine laser
Great vid as ever thanks D2EA. I do really hope some solid balancing will happen soon though. Elite is about nothing but mining these days, everything else has little point towards any type of advancement (engineering not withstanding). so many other types of gameplay seem oddly ignored by FDev? Oh well, heres hoping.
One thing that I never can really grasp is how many prospector and collector limpets I should be bringing with me to a hotspot overlap? I'm in a Python right now. Thanks to anyone that can help
As far as collector controllers, I was told you would be looking to bring 1x 3A rated collector per Large mining laser on your ship. I usually fill half my cargo bay with limpets on the way out, and start tossing them as my bay fills up.
TH-camrs mining..."Oh painite on our first asteroid"
Reality.... "Indite, okay. On to the next one, Indite again. Next.....fucking Indite again"
I spend more time restocking my limpets than actual mining
Remember that many nerfs happened after this video went live. (And I do mean when you posted, not just when I posted)
I've tried mining 3 different times and I NEVER find anything that's supposed to be in the hot spot. I've tried diamonds once and painite twice now. I've used hundreds of prospector 3a limpets and never once found a single asteroid with diamonds in the ltd hotspots or painite in any of the 4 different painite hot spots. Any idea what is up with this? I'm about to completely give up on it. I've watched probably over a dozen videos from different people with different approaches and read a novella's worth of info and still can't get anything.
It means you are getting fucked by this game.
Just find a different game to play, after watching this(along with several other tutorials) and having 0 success with mining I'm done with this fucking game.
I'm pretty much on the same spot than you just that I'm fucking done man.
On my mining Cutter, I still take a pulse wave scanner and a surface abrasion blaster, cos why the hell not?
during my last couple of runs, I found a painite core and painite SSD. I decomm'd all of my non-laser hardpoints after the various nerfs so I had no way of extracting either.
I still carry the pulsewave though, in case core/SSD becomes profitable again. Core and SSD is way more interesting than laser/surface :/
I built a Dolphin mining ship as per this channel, went to where the EDTOOLS miners tool recommended (GCRV 1568) and spent hours and hours firing prospector limpets at the Painite hotspot central area asteroids. After about 4 hours of this I gave up. I tried all the Painite areas the scan showed, but found nothing but rubbish, not one bit of Painite. Maybe the chance of finding this has been really lowered (Sat Nov 2020), but based on what I tried I wouldn't bother. Only having had the game a week I find the mining a massive disappointment and a waste of about 8 hours of game play to just lose money.
Ok, but i'm dropping into painite hotspots, also tried overlapping ones from the same website, and i havent seen a single asteroid that contained painite. I found a gold mine, literally, while trying an ltd hotspot cuse i always found painite there before the nerf, but nothing. I wish i did the engineering grind before now, I JUST NEED 10T OF PAINITE!
Go to the inner darker ring
Nice vid, helped me allot!
Just my opinion but I think anything less that 100 T for cargo isnt worth it considering the time you will spend doing it. Of course if you are starting out in the game then its not possible to get a big enough ship yet . Im currently using my Krait mk2 with 140 T of space Its fine for now . Python would be a bit better but Ive got this now and Ive used it for a variety of things .
I have a question that I can’t find the answer to: I tried this yesterday and got really good results in a double overlap hotspot, are there any triple overlapping hotspots for pianote and if so where are they. (Maybe mot and I’m just so used to LtDs lol)
I don't really know because I think if there are it would be all over Reddit on the elite miners group and of course in TH-cam but this is just my opinion and I don't really know.
Quick question, are the overlapping hot spots mandatory after they patched it?
nop, you get almost the same now for single hot-spots - drop at 100-150km distance and you will get nice rewards.
thanks man im new player and i need to know what ship i can use for mining i have like 9 M now so that will help thanks for help
Python
Thank you for the great info. I am interested in a build for a asp explorer if possible. New player so could use the extra credit income.
Where's the link to this Commander's Toolbox?
cmdrs-toolbox.com/ship-builds/mining
Hey bud I have went to the same location you where talked about as it says on the miners guide its the place to go but there is no planet like the one in this video plus there is no double resources and the colour of the plants are different from the colour of the plant your mining at and your mining in hr and its hip where I am can you help me out here as I am completely confused now lol 😂
Last Painite run encountered interesting bug. Have 4x 2 grade mining lasers, after draining all power two of lasers switched off two kept going without power. And it kept mining.
I don't think it's a bug, the rate of recharge via the power distributor is only good enough to keep the two lasers running. I've done it multiple of times now whenever I exhaust the energy capacitors.
Probably not a bug. Next time you're out, turn off two of your mining lasers at the start and see if your capacitor energy drains. Your power distributor has probably just enough charging capacity to keep two of your lasers powered indefinitely, so when your capacitor charge drains two of your lasers shut down but the distributor can still keep firing the other two.
I have gone to the planet on the website. It said A6 ring A for the system I'm in. Not sure what ring A is as there is nothing called that. I assume it means the inner or outer ring. I have fired about 50 prospectors and haven't found any panite. What am I doing wrong? I know I'm in the right system and at the right planet in the rings. At the high resource site even in that time.
What you are most likely doing wrong is what this "guide" completely left out which is how to scan for the hotspots. You don't want to use the pre-marked Resource Extraction Sites, but instead use the Detailed Surface Scanner to scan the rings which will show specific resource hotspots.
@@JohnVanderbeck I already figured it out. That was exactly it. TY. I appreciate people who make videos. But hate when the creator doesnt take the time to think about it from the eyes of the student. I don't care how much someone knows if they can't translate that into a good lesson.
Thanks John V.
@@xoxslimxoxslimnation3290 It can be hard remembering what something was like when you didn't know it, after you already know it.
It seems that they have also nerfed painite mining, a couple weeks ago it was easy to find stations buying painite for 800k/ton within 50 light-years of the overlapping hotspots, today the mining tool showed the nearest good sell location was 150ly away and it was only for 650k/ton. The supply wasn't even that good either
They have nerfed the mining rocks too
I guess the joke is on me because using the mining tool, there’s not a single station or carrier buying painite anywhere near Colonia.
Alexander Cotman Inara showing more up to date market price. I’m in colonia doing painite runs as well
How much money will this get you comparing it to Borann days?
Slightly less than Borann but not much. On a good day this can match Borann I think.
I feel like painite prices vary HEAVILY. I think you have to be really quick with selling because I was too late and ended up selling my full cargo for 300k
I’ve spent 3 hours at GCRV 1568 in hot spots and haven’t found ANY painite. Not sure what is going on.
Inner dark ring.
@@gamingshowplay Got it. thanks. Did 2 runs and finally upgraded to my mining Python.
There is still too much RNG is involved such as in first half of hour i couldn't find much Painite only could collect 50 of them so i was literally getting mad then my luck changed i collected 320 in a hour which makes sense i guess but it is much lower than before, i even doubted if i entered a Painite hotspot several times...
Ggoddkkiller mining in space should be highly rng
You can find for Painite map on reddit and follow that map. Hit 40-50% painite every time, just take a while to learn the map though