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The teams were taking multiple delay of games/false starts because the clock keeps running. Had nothing to do with field position on either of them. Belichick was too stubborn to take a timeout because his old player (Vrabel) was getting the better of him. The rule was changed recently
It’s also to drain clock. Why not shave a minute if you can. Obviously the field positioning is a bigger part but I’m sure these teams having the lead and doing this for clock has something to do with it at least. What a wild time in the NFL tho lol
I'm a Pats fan but that was brilliant by Vrabel. He got Bill on that one.
I'm a Pats fan and I literally sat watching the game wondering why Bill didn't call a time-out to put an end to it. Def a bit of an oversight by someone as good as him
They were doing it to drain the clock, but the field position is important because their location on the field is what enables them to give up 5 or 10 or 15 yards without negatively impacting their defensive field position after the punt. If they were punting from their own 20 they wouldn't be willing to give up those extra yards to kill an extra minute, but doing it from the opponents 40 means those extra yards don't matter, the punter can reach the endzone from 40 or 50 yards out all the same.
So funny seeing him grinning like a little shit when he was playing against the Jets, only to see him rage out against the Titans as they did it against him. MASTER play.
4:50 I watched that live. The reason no one got to the punter was because everyone on offense was holding like crazy. That's why all the flags were thrown. But because the time ran out and the play resulted in a safety, the flags didn't matter. And yes, I was pissed as hell^^
That's odd. I figured they would be able to accept the holding penalties and replay the down. Ya learn something every day🤷♂️
@@RealDiehl99 They cant because the game was over after the play.
Also because most of the players on the receiving team werent rushing the punter, they were blocking.
The game can’t end on a defensive penalty, but the Ravens were still offense
@@NetProphet76 This is the key point: The game can't end on a defensive penalty, there will be one more play allowed even though time has expired. However, the game can end with an offensive penalty, so the offensive linemen all committed holding and allowed the clock to run out.
You guys really described the situations perfectly. Well done blokes. American Football experts you are.
The reason they were holding in the first example is that that the game cannot end on a defense penalty but can end on an offensive penalty. Two points were awarded (safety)because the offensive team committed the penalty while the ball was in the end zone. Similarly if say Holding on the offense is called while the QB still has the in the end zone that is also a safety
Also, the reason why the defensive players(receiving team) were not trying that hard to rush the punter, is because generally only one or two players will actually go for the punter. The rest are trying to block the offensive players for the return, because the offense will be the ones trying to tackle the returner. Obviously they didnt have to, because the punter never kicked the ball. The few defensive/receiving players who DID try to get to the punter were grabbed and held by the punting team.
For the safety play at 9:34. The Patriots were losing by 1 and punting would give the Broncos the ball with great field position. So they took a safety, gave the Broncos 2 points, but were allowed to punt 30 yards further up the field. The Patriots defense stopped the Broncos after the safety punt, got the ball back, and then scored the game-winning touchdown. Genius move by Bill Belichick
I’m still waiting on that One Pound Fithee jacket for this winter season.
Indeed 😂
The benefit of having a foot out of bounds when you receive a kickoff is because a kickoff that goes out of bounds automatically gives the receiving team the ball at the 40. During a kickoff the kicking team has to kick the ball in play or kick it through the end zone (touchback). A kickoff out of bounds (not through the endzone) is a penalty. Because he had 1 foot in a 1 foot out, the rule considers that a kickoff that went out of bounds.
Very impressed with Daz's ball knowledge
Daz should just be the official translate for everything American
The the play where the punter ran the clock out and stepped out the back of the end zone with smart for multiple reasons it also kept them from losing possession with good field position for the defensive team to score potentially before the game ends he ran the clock out very high IQ play
I’m a valid NFL fan and daz explained the punting thing perfectly
The whole point of the intentional penalties was to run clock off, not gain some kind of field position.
10:15 The return man (Cobb) intentionally had one foot out of bounds because the rules state (only on kickoffs, not punts) that if the ball or the returner is out of bounds when receiving the kick, the kicking team will receive a penalty that would move possession for the return team to the 40 yard line (which is superb for the return team)
I remember when that happened and how happy my father and I were at the brilliant play - though we are self admitted Packer’s homers.
I love the inflection in the referee's voice when he said false start OFFENSE
It's important to note that the Titans/Patriots game happened the same season of the Patriots/Jets game. Belicheck and the Pats did it to the Jets early in the season and then had their own medicine handed to them later the same season.
Also really impressed with how you picked up on the delay of game when punting to give yourself some extra room to kick. Little things like that that not even seasoned football fans know much about.
Edit: Wanted to also note that the rule was changed after that year because of how it was being abused.
And the last play the penalty is called "Illegal Procedure" and the receiving team will get the ball at the 40 yard line. It's called when the kicking team kicks the ball out of bounds in play (not in the endzone). Since the receiver was "out of bounds" when he touched the ball, the ball is considered to have gone out of bounds without anyone touching it and therefore a flag. It's why you see most kickoffs go through the back of the end zone or in the middle of the field. Don't want to give the other team any unnecessary yardage.
35 yard line, no?
@@williamjordan5554 Sorry, I think you might be correct. I'm thinking of my kids leagues who move it up a bit further. But same concept. Still further than the touchback.
The first one was a punt. That was the Ravens' punter with the ball. The Bengals (team in white) sent most of their players deep to set up blocks for a good punt return figuring that was their only chance to score a touchdown with 11 seconds left. So you had only a few guys rushing the punter and the Ravens were committing "holds" (grabbing jerseys, pulling guys down, etc.) all over the place to prevent those guys from getting near the punter knowing the holding penalties wouldn't matter.
In that last clip... the rule is that if a team kicks the ball out of bounds, the receiving team gets the ball on the 40 yard line. That's different from a touchback, which puts the ball on the 25 yard line. The quirk in this rule is that the kick didn't go out of bounds, but the player was standing out of bounds when he "received" it. That counts as the same as the kick going out of bounds.
I have watched this game forever and never saw this rule ever.
You blokes are doing a great job learning the rules of American football.
The way ball control, field position, and clock management works in American football has a fair amount of similarity to some of the defensive plays in Football (soccer). The sense of sacrificing small things to gain big manifests in each game differently, but there is a similar game within a game always happening beneath the surface.
The Bengals had no pressure on the punter because they were setting up for the return.
On A punt the defense can either set up for a block by bringing pressure or set up for a return by falling back and then blocking.
It didn't have the strangest rule of them all: If you fair catch a punt as time expires, you get a free kick, against no defense.
Seriously? So if team A is punting from their own end zone and team B fair catches at the opponents 40 (bad kick) team B can kick a field goal still?
@@ethanpost9774 Yes, and from MUCH further away than normal, due to no pass rush. Where it's caught doesn't matter though. The kick is from the 50 yard line.
The difference between Belichick and Vrabel exploiting that loophole was the motivation behind it. Bill did it not for hubris but because it wouldnt impact the outcome of that game. He wanted to expose bad rules to get them fixed, and did it when it would matter as little as possible, rather than use it in a major game with playoff implications. Once he did that its on the NFL to get it fixed.
One thing about NFL commentators is they obsessively explain the strategy and rules behind everything. So if you’ve watched football for 5+ years, usually you know the majority of these extreme nuances. That’s half the fun of the sport (and one of the reasons Americans love football even though Europeans insist there’s too much stoppage). All of that time where you think “nothing” is going on Americans are passionately debating the strategy of every single play.
Came to see if the comments explained the reason no one got close to the punter in the first one and the even deeper level genius of that. Good job internet.
In the Cincy/Baltimore game, every player on the Ravens held which resulted in penalties. By rule, the game can only be extended by a defensive penalty. So, by holding until time expired, then having the punter step out of the end zone ends the game, even though there's probably 7 or 8 holds on the play.
These plays are a kin to all the tricks soccer players use to kill time. These were ways to continually keep the clock running by using self inflicted penalties in order to replay the down over while keeping the clock running/ and or run the entire clock out.
Ah football 🏈 what a beautiful game. I absolutely love football season.
On the delay of game, Daz was right.
4:04 These next two clips are linked. Here we see Bill Belichick, the head coach of the Patriots, purposefully take penalties for delay of game and offsides. The reason is that the clock runs after each penalty when the quarter has over 5 minutes remaining. Belichick was refreshing his play clock (time an offense has to start a play before being penalized) while also taking time off the game clock that the Jets really needed. This was during a blow-out regular season game, and was Belichick essentially rubbing salt in the wounds of his division rival.
The clip after that is from the same season. Titans head coach Mike Vrabel used the same tactic against Belichick to run the clock down to 5 minutes during a playoff game. The Titans would ultimately win. I never get tired of seeing Belichick throw a fit on the sideline for getting a taste of his own medicine.
On the first play, it wasn't that the receiving team wasn't trying to get to the punter... it's that they were all being held illegally by the punting team's line. That's why there were flags flying all over the place. Ordinarily the receiving team would have another chance to receive the punt even after time expires, but the fact the game ended in a score in their favor took that option away from them.
In the second one was for field position like Daz was speculating for the third one. But the third was was more about clock managemet.
For the first one, even though he stepped out anyway, the penalty for holding while in your own endzone is a safety. So, either way, the holding doesn't matter hence the loophole.
The delay of game thing was all about burning time off the clock. Daz' punting description is accurate to why you don't kick, but what they're really doing here is burning clock. Mike Vrabel (TN coach) played for Bellichick for years. That was the student outdoing the teacher with his own tactics.
Hell, some players don't know rules, sometimes. Remember when Donavan McNabb didn't know you could tie?
6:18. This Titans coach used to play for Belichick (and Tom Brady).
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Wow I didn’t expect Daz to know so much
In highschool my team did a trick play called where's the tee. Even though it was set up as a field goal attempt.. where the ball is snapped to a holder. Before the snap , a guy in the backfield yelled "where's the tee" and started walking around . The opposing team started to stand up and look around.. we then snapped and tosses a td. They were called for encroachment, we declined, and got the td
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@@blakerh did so.. naner naner Naner.. lol. But yes.. it actually did
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The clock is a big part of football strategy.
The 1st clip, the Ravens werd holding every defensive player, which is a penalty, but since they were the offensive team there is no additional play and the game ended. If they were defensive team with a penalty, then there would be one additional play added on. So they committed like 7 holding penalties and the game ended.
Daz is right, looking to give the punter more room to kick to try and avoid a touchback
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Bill belicheck did it to put the kicker in a better position. The other guy did it to kill time that’s why bill was mad lol
In the first clip, the defense expected the offense to punt, which would have given them the ball back at around mid field with a chance to score. The defense was falling back to receive the punt which is why they didn't rush the punter. This gave the punter the time to run out the clock and then run out of bounds. He could have just as easily run out the clock, come out of the endzone and ended it at the one yard line which would have also ended the game but because her was will to give up two points, it changed the possession turn over from one in which the other team got the ball where it went down to one in which the other team would have had to receive a punt from the 20 yard line. It woudl have run out the clock anywya which is why the game ends by rule with a safety.
on the first play, taking the safety isn't the crazy part, it's that the entire offense was assigned a target and held them so that they couldn't get to the ball before time ran out. every single offense member committed the foul of holding, that was the strange loophole because none of those penalties matter because the game is over after that play.
This video is edited so that the commentators explanation of the loopholes are not clear.
In the first play, there was too much time left to be able to run a play and kill the clock so the Ravens lined up for a punt. However, instead of punting, all the blockers just illegally grabbed the receiving team players so they couldn't get to the punter. That's why it didn't look like the defense wasn't rushing the punter because they were basically being tackled by the blockers. This drew penalties for holding, but since time had expired, the game was over. A penalty on the defense, with no time left, extends the game for one untimed down, but a penalty on the offense doesn't.
On the second and third plays, if there is a presnap penalty while the clock is running, the clock keeps running after the penalty yardage is assessed. You have to snap the ball within 40 seconds or it is a penalty. The teams took that penalty which reset the play clock to 25 seconds, I believe. Then before that 25 seconds was up, the teams intentionally took a false start penalty, which reset the 25 second play clock. Basically, they were able to burn an additional 50 seconds off the game clock in exchange for losing 10 yards which doesn't matter because they are punting anyway.
The fourth play is that by punting from their own end zone, the opposing team will likely get the ball very close to field goal range which would put them up by four requiring the kicking team to score a touchdown with very little time. By snapping it over the punters head, they give up two points but get to punt from the 20-yard line so the opposing team will be farther from field goal range making a stop more likely. If the Patriots do get the stop, they only have to get to field goal range to force overtime where they hope to win.
The fifth play was explained well in that kicking the ball out of bounds on a kickoff is a penalty that puts the ball at the 40-yard line.
Ha ha ha, no way do us fans not know the rules. NFL fans know the rules, pretty much all of them, because we play the game from youth up in to adulthood.
in the first one the punting team were all holding,. they knew the holding penalty wouldn't help their opponents but would give them the time to run the clock out
Daz has it right again! Lol. He's correct.
It is a penalty for the kickoff to go out of bounds so when he picked it up out of bounds he forced the penalty on the other team and when a kick is out of bounds the ball is place much further up the field.
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Mike Vrabel I installed his central air condition when he was playing for the Pats
Every body has a job. Quit bragging and get back to work
@@phronze1 lol
Is that why they call you “AIR” Jordan
@ the 8:30 minute mark. The punt gives the ball to the other team. Should they give the ball to the other team with 6 minutes on the clock or 5 minutes on the clock? The less time on the clock the less time to score.
Should do "NBA smartest plays"
8:00 that's true, but that's not a loophole. The loophole is the intentional delay of games to keep the clock moving without having to run plays.
The first clip you ran concerns penalties on the last down of a half or the game. The safety was not the important part, at least on this play. The half or game can not end on with a defensive penalty on the last play. It can end with an offensive penalty on the last play. The Ravens were setup to punt the ball but did not want to take the chance that the punt could be run back for a game tying touchdown and extra point. So they put the ball in play and were prepared to take the safety. The safety could have been awarded for two rules infractions. Firstly, an offensive penalty that occurs while the ball is in your own endzone results in a safety. Secondly, if the ball carrier steps out of bounds in the endzone a safety is awarded. Both happened on this play.
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Football is time and position.
The delay of games is to try and give the opponent bad field possession.
I lost $15,000 on a Super Bowl bet when Belichek took an intentional safety for the Patriots with only a few seconds left in the game
Liar
Day 50 of asking y’all to watch college football highlights from this season
you got to really know the rules
4:11 your missing the main point here. All 10 ravens players just held and mauled the other team. They essentially took 10 penalties for 100 yds but the game is over so it doesn't matter. They were just tackling everyone while the punter is safe 😂🤣😂🤣😂
as a titans fan that patriots game was amazing killed the dynasty vrabs dialed it up
Meh. These aren't loopholes. Its clock management and field position strategies.
You're not allowed to do what the Ravens did in the first clip anymore
It looks dodgy if you don't know strategy. Their job is to prepare for a deep ball and try to return it, not to rush the guy.
I feel like to truly understand at what's happening in all of these clips, you have to be very familiar with the rules already and the game itself. Other than Daz you guys are still fairly new
The punting distance thing is for shitty punters who can't angle their punts out of bounds.
Guys in the first play he’s a punter. 🤦♂️
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Why do you guys even bother with a video like this unless you watch with an actual football fan. All 3 of you were just clueless the entire video
Instead of being an asshole, why don’t you contribute and tell them what’s going on in the video. At least they’re trying to learn.
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