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  • @danchadwick1495
    @danchadwick1495 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Special note for mirrors. Two mirrors are needed for a periscope; the first mirror reverses the image, and the second flips it back. Continuing on with curved mirrors, a concentrating mirror converges parallel beams into a cone, then past the focal point, it diverges. To make the beam parallel again, a second mirror is needed to reverse the beam from the cone shape. Advantage here is the choice of placement of the second mirror. This is the secret of the Archimedes Lighthouse, burning ships out to 25 miles away. Coincidentally, these Lighthouses were used for long-range communication and spying on other cities.

    • @CraigLandsberg-lk1ep
      @CraigLandsberg-lk1ep 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So glad to see your comment 😅😅😅

  • @ThomasAndersonbsf
    @ThomasAndersonbsf ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the most useful thing regarding making parabolic shapes I have found, you were the one to share, which was the beam of a light as it is cut in a cross section across something and trace where the edge of the light and shadow is, because you dont even need math or anything for that, and a whole unit made that way, you can quickly find the focal point using something like a stick since it burns so well LOL (just be sure to wear a welding hood or make a pair of polarized goggles with a second set turned 90º from the lenses (I am making a pair of steam punk like goggles that will have a rotatable for variable darkness, lenses using this, and 3 layers of polycarbonate lenses for a friend, and fellow researcher, for arc welding, cutting torch use ect, to protect his eyes, but not using brass making them a pair of brass goggles but rather pure titanium for the eye shields and the main lens rims LOL ) anyway,
    I seriously wanted to thank you for that info, so very useful.
    on the mylar durability, the one thing I can point out to help it last longer, Use a continuity tester like you test fuses with, and a little light comes on if the fuse is good, and test the sides of the mylar to make sure you have the metal coated side facing the sun, if you do, it can last 10 years easily in direct sun every day, but if you have the plastic side facing the sun and the metal facing down, depending on how much heat can build under it, you can have those mirror surfaces blasted off by the sun, in like 4 days or less, (I had a batch of pieces I cut up and hot melt glued down to a tarp, and did not pay attention to which side was facing which, and in 4 days of oklahoma summer sun (brutal) the sections that were facing the wrong way were mostly clear with only some faded mirroring around the edges and directly over the hot melt glue that apparently held the aluminum vaporized coating on the mylar plastic,)...
    one advantage to making sure it is facing toward the sun (the metal side) besides it lasting longer, is the fact that you are blocking all the frequencies that a clear substance will absorb like a sheet of black painted matt finish will absorb all the light making heat, and it blocks by reflecting it so you get a lot of IR and UV that bounces off and back into what you are heating. (or burning, I was thinking 30,000 square foot of them to melt sand and make blocks of quartz glass for glass brick roads that each brick has a solar cell under it, so all that fiddly worry about the vehicles destroying the glass is not a concern as its in say 6 inch cubes with a semi spherical divot behind it and some rounded grooves from that to the edge of the brick for the wiring, and glass does not work well when flexed (large sheet with something pressing down on the middle of it) but it works quite well when being compressed (something just squishing down on top of it not bending or flexing it and instead reinforcing it not being flexed) So that road just needs a good solid flat surface to lay them out on, and if one breaks, you grab it using either a tool that a gap is formed in the bricks to allow removal, or a suction cup shape to pull it out, then slip in a new brick and any components broke under it :) Most of the energy to make everything in that would come from concentrated sunlight from say a desert on the sunny side of a mountain (norther hemisphere as I live in, I would use a south facing slope of a rocky mountain in NM or AZ or something) cutting down on all the energy it normally takes to process the silicon and silica for solar cells and bricks, seems like it would make the whole process even for buildings with solar cells in blocks of glass held in place by the weight or better yet,... glass lego blocks! LOL anyway I have waffled on enough. Thanks again. great info series you got going on lately regarding the psychology behind science and tech, to help people have a more active and healthy attitude toward the work! :)

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that was a nice post mate - thank yo for taking the time - i seriously enjoyed reading it - cheers

  • @colleenforrest7936
    @colleenforrest7936 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An easy way to draw a parabola, to help align your pettals or whatever, is to draw a parabolic envelope. Basically you draw a bunch of tangents around the parabola. This is easier than it sounds, and many of us did this when we were kids.
    If you ever did that thing where you too a peice of paper and drew a bunch of equally spaced marks horizontally and vertically (same number of marks in each direction, all the same width). Then you draw a line from the top vertical mark to the innermost horizontal mark, then you draw another line from the next mark down to the next mark over and so on. That curve that forms is a full parabola.

  • @davidpeckham2405
    @davidpeckham2405 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Using the convex shape and putting the reflective surface on it, you could back it with spray foam and once hardened remove. Light weight and easily replicable! Cheers from Canada

    • @CCoburn3
      @CCoburn3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or form your initial surface and make a plaster mold. The foam will be lighter and easier to make. But the plaster would be more durable. It all depends on how many copies you want to make.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      cheers mate

  • @maxkennedy5073
    @maxkennedy5073 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't forget the mirror paint you've mentioned previously for ease of application

  • @DeeP_BosE
    @DeeP_BosE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mirror silver/copper vinyl is primarily designed for decorative or visual purposes, such as creating mirror-like surfaces or adding reflective accents. While it may have some thermal reflective properties, its primary function is not focused on providing optimal thermal insulation or heat reflectivity.
    Typically made of multiple layers, including a Coating, reflective layer and an adhesive layer. Coatings or treatments can alter the surface properties and affect the material's ability to reflect heat effectively.
    I have tried these with parabolic antennas of dish tv with all materials... and just kitchen Al sheets are massively superior in thermal concentration with nearIR reflectivity at an astonishing 95% . However suntracking still remains elusive with robust, simpler methods.

  • @D-B-Cooper
    @D-B-Cooper ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Tomorrow we make a laser.

  • @johnbelcher7955
    @johnbelcher7955 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cool! Years ago I can remember seeing a guy cooking with a wooden frame covered in plastic (either the plastic had some give in it or stapled on so it wasn't bone tight) he supported this on 4 legs about 6-8 foot high and filled the plastic up with water to make a lens!

    • @bradlafferty
      @bradlafferty ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A homemade Fresnel lens - how neat!

    • @johnbelcher7955
      @johnbelcher7955 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradlafferty I forgot to add that the frame that the plastic was attached to was about 6ft across by the time it was filled with water the lens was about 4-5ft across!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fresnel Lens?

    • @johnbelcher7955
      @johnbelcher7955 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering The weight of the water against the plastic just forms a smooth surface, and the thickness of the lens can be increased by the tension of the plastic, the bit that I can't quite remember is how he had the cooking side of thinking set up! If I am correct a Fresnel lens has ridges the same as a lighthouse!?
      It's cheap and could be made portable!

    • @8ank3r
      @8ank3r ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think they are talking about green power science channel RIP it was a convex lens.

  • @markjacksmarkjacks
    @markjacksmarkjacks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a career commercial sculptor. We have to make all sorts of shapes all of the time. One time I left a fun house mirror lying in a field...it wasn't even a parabola but within minutes there was smoke in the grass! Anyway...If I was going to make one of these cheap and durable, I would find a circular frame and stretch transparent vinyl (which you can find at the dollar stores as shower curtains and table cloths) then inflate it (as opposed to vacuum). That makes a mirror smooth surface that can be fiberglassed or sprayed with hydrocal (or plaster) and fibers. You could do the same by sucking out liquid hydrocal and fiber the way air was sucked out in the video.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i have done it that way too mate - cheers

    • @AtlasReburdened
      @AtlasReburdened ปีที่แล้ว

      We has a storage shed catch fire when I was in Iraq because someone left a sheet of mild steel leaning against a building.

  • @RyanLebeck-td5ft
    @RyanLebeck-td5ft ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Focus that light onto a sand battery and it would heat an charge quite quickly I feel. That's bang on mate! Well done.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      yes it would mate

    • @RyanLebeck-td5ft
      @RyanLebeck-td5ft ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering lovely that so much of applied science is truly timeless eh?

  • @jeremyhorne5252
    @jeremyhorne5252 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just saved me about $300. My microwave went out yesterday, and I have an old wok down in the cupboard. I'll know what I'll be doing tomorrow. THANKS!

  • @kevinleebailey
    @kevinleebailey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found an IKEA plant pot base that was formed in to a parabolic shape. It was made by rolling thin strips of ply wood. Rolled up to make a large disk. Then it must have been placed in a former to produce it's shape and then glued in place. All I did was spray paint it silver and applied strips of reflective mylar tape. I suppose the same thing could be done with strips off cardboard rolled up.

  • @moletrap2640
    @moletrap2640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idea. Use your metal fire pit as a form and do a plastic vacuum seal into it. A small air fitting in the back of the fire to pull a vacuum. Then one could produce limitless plastic parabolas.

  • @basiedp
    @basiedp ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, just of the subject. Used mylar vacuum system on my diy telescope to adjust focus. Works a charm...😁👌

  • @Buzzhumma
    @Buzzhumma ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Send it down to electro plater and turn it into chrome finish . Probably 20 pounds or so . I wonder how much better it would be with a polished chrome compared with foil?

    • @guineapigzed
      @guineapigzed ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the idea.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      as i said mate - there are a million ways to do it and it all depends on what you do it for, what equipment, skill and budget - but sure electroplating is a nice idea

  • @SG-js2qn
    @SG-js2qn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems to me the thing to do would be to have a couple of these simple mirrors - could be plastic covered with mylar, IDK - with a bit of framing that allows them to heat blackened "heat bricks" in the morning hours that you then place in an outdoor oven that you use for the cooking ... something like a tandoori oven, pizza / bread oven, a warming oven, or a base to use as a stove. Maybe focus light on an iron pot you can fill with river stones ... would the stones be ideal for controlling temperature? IDK. Seems to me this would keep cooking mess away from your reflector, and allow you to better control the heating in the oven(s) by adding and removing what amounts to "re-usable coals." Just be sure to start the oven in the morning and have all your cooking done by sundown. 🧐

  • @gee3883
    @gee3883 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fresnel lens is another approach RMS. Build a 1 meter square frame from say 3 x2 timber. cover it in clear polythene, elevate it on a tower, say 2 meters, fill it with water and that will create a fresnel lens. Then focus it like a magnifying glass = fire from water. I'm gonna build one this year to act as a pool heater for the kids pool.

  • @willmosley6739
    @willmosley6739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Robert , you've given me some new ideas...

  • @mikaelfransson3658
    @mikaelfransson3658 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I story I heard in school then I was 13 years old was the race between Stephenson's Rocket and Novelty, how was an early steam locomotive built by John Ericsson and John Braithwaite to take part in the Rainhill Trials in 1829. Why this cut story here. John Ericsson looses get him to run away too America And he build around year 1876 a heat air from sun/stirling variante! The solution for make sun to a energy source is a bit older then people in general know! As always I love your film Rob! keep up your great work! 🥸/Mikael

    • @johnmcfadden9336
      @johnmcfadden9336 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are so many technologies decades old even centuries lying unused that could play a major part in our energy requirements it’s scandalous really but robs videos are showing us some

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the ericsson engine is a landmark solar engine mate

  • @boblewis5558
    @boblewis5558 ปีที่แล้ว

    The trick with mylar to keep it in shape without the continuous vacuum is to reverse the process i.e. use pressure to form the parabolic curve outwards, not inwards.
    Ensure the most reflective surface is on the inside of the curve, maintain pressure for the duration required to pour casting resin over the outside curve and set. Now you have a solid backed mylar mirror. Simples!

  • @izzyfury8126
    @izzyfury8126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. That was more practical instead of a 3D printer of plastic

  • @st33ldi9ital
    @st33ldi9ital ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the idea of vacuum... then maybe use that as a cast or form for some sort of resin or such that could then be painted with reflective paint or material that could be polished.

  • @forestfishburne7900
    @forestfishburne7900 ปีที่แล้ว

    The polished bottom of a soda can was an old boy scout hack.

  • @CCoburn3
    @CCoburn3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. While you were talking, I thought about 3D printing petal parts. But the fire pit is so much quicker that I abandoned the idea.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      lol - oddly enough mate - i like your idea better lol

    • @CCoburn3
      @CCoburn3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering It’s a time thing with me. But I can see advantages because you can make a printed version any size you want. And you can fine tune the shape. All you have to do is design a set of shapes that can be assembled into petals. Then assemble the petals into your reflector. If I had a faster printer, I might go that way.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CCoburn3 that's what i was thinking mate

    • @CCoburn3
      @CCoburn3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering About 10 years ago, you made moldable silicone by mixing cornstarch with cheap builder's silicone. (Some people do the same by adding dishwashing liquid. I don't know which way is better.) In this thread, we were talking about making petal parts for a reflector using 3D printing. But to build a reflector with a 3D printer would take an inordinate amount of time. On the other hand, you could print off the parts from one petal and then use your homemade silicone to make molds. After you've made molds, you can then mold parts out of urethane. As far as I can tell, you've never done a video on urethane molding. But this would be an excellent project for such a video. I just thought I'd mention it since I know you're always looking for useful video topics.

  • @safffff1000
    @safffff1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way a spiral was cut in a piece of round tin and pulled tight and the 1" wide cut would tilt inward concentrating the sun and the thing was still flat. spiral solar concentrater

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the recent "chrome" spray paints are pretty good for this too. Looks like he had it on the desk, but forgot to give it a mention. It's probably one of the easiest things to apply once getting the dish part worked out. A lot easier than trying to cut up bits of film or tape and getting that to adhere to a surface.
    Also the method for the mylar dish can be copied with a plastic garbage bag instead, and that shape can be plastered over to make a release form for making non-reflective dishes that way. And then those can be further covered to make a reflective dish.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i mentioned it in the previous vid mate

    • @DeeP_BosE
      @DeeP_BosE ปีที่แล้ว

      reflecting light and reflecting heat are 2 different subjects. mylar does the 2nd part better and paint does the 1st.

  • @stevanskeels9549
    @stevanskeels9549 ปีที่แล้ว

    Edmund Scientific used to sell large (approx. 1’ square) Fresnel lenses in a sheet of clear plastic that easily rolled up.

  • @12thsonofisrael
    @12thsonofisrael ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if we use a large wax coated wok / parable to make a mold out of ~ plaster, foam, paper mache', etc.
    Secure & seal the surface of the negative parable, then using mold release wax to coat the mold followed by application of a mirror surface then a light layer of flexible reinforcement so that the new parable can be peeled off of the mold?
    Just a thought from experience making boats as a teenager.

  • @Otras_cosas_de_Jorgito
    @Otras_cosas_de_Jorgito ปีที่แล้ว

    Muchas gracias por sus ideas.

  • @NewHampshireJack
    @NewHampshireJack ปีที่แล้ว

    Many great projects may be constructed for education and everyday use. Typhoon season here in the Philippines certainly puts a damper on all the fun. We do not have bad weather the entire storm season so there are days you can still play. Our backups are in place so it is time to get on with it. One of the easiest finds is old satellite dishes. All we need to do is grab one from our roof as the "retirement project" house was pre-equipped. Thank you for the ideas and motivation.

  • @WilliamTythas
    @WilliamTythas ปีที่แล้ว

    with that fire pit .. might have been able to get some metal polish and mirror that

  • @mkaz3997
    @mkaz3997 ปีที่แล้ว

    An umbrella might work as a 'former'.

  • @justinw1765
    @justinw1765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look up Solar Funnel Cooker by Steven E. Jones. It is far safer than parabolic because it doesn't concentrate the Solar energy to a point, but to a more diffuse line. You can also make them foldable, so that it is more easy to transport. It's also easier to make.

  • @TheWingnut58
    @TheWingnut58 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking of trying some of the chrome spray paint on a Sat TV dish....

  • @andysparks63
    @andysparks63 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about a solar powered flash steam generator 😁👍👍

  • @bartronicsecurity
    @bartronicsecurity ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and does work. Just don't try a 1.8 meter satalite dish covered with kitchen foil and then use an aluminum pan. It nearly melted the aluminum pan. Believe me I know. Maybe I had it too focused in the hot point. Haha

  • @jasonstokes5469
    @jasonstokes5469 ปีที่แล้ว

    MIT
    Why doesn’t a plain, white piece of paper reflect light, but a mirror does?
    Almost everything reflects light - it’s how it reflects it that makes a difference…
    By Sajan Saini
    “I used to have a red car, when I worked at General Electric,” Department of Materials Science and Engineering Senior Lecturer Emeritus James Livingston recalls. One evening, walking back to the company parking lot, he was surprised to discover that his car had changed color. In fact, the street lighting in the lot had been switched to mercury lamps - which, Livingston explains, have almost no red in their light. His car thus appeared as black, with a touch of blue. After driving out onto the city street, with its conventional streetlights, the car’s color changed back to red.
    Livingston’s color-changing car highlights the fact that light sources, such as the Sun and tungsten filaments, emit a spectrum, or collection, of colors. When this spectrum of light falls on a surface, some colors are absorbed by its molecules or atoms. The remaining colors penetrate to within a few wavelengths, Livingston says, and partially reflect back.
    White surfaces are composed of molecules or atoms that don’t absorb any of the visible colors of light; our eyes perceive this reflected combination as the color white. But doesn’t a mirror also reflect all the colors of light? Why doesn’t the surface of a mirror appear white, rather than reflecting images into our eyes?
    The answer, Livingston explains, rests in part on the penetration by light. A mirror is essentially a plate of glass coated with a thin film of metal, such as silver. At the atomic scale, metals are a crystal network of atoms whose outermost electrons dissociate and wander with high mobility through the network. These mobile “conduction” electrons are the source of electrical conductivity in metals, and when light attempts to penetrate a metal, they “vibrate in such a way” that an opposing electrical field is created, canceling the electric field of light and prohibiting any of its colors from entering beyond a few atomic layers. When that occurs, the light has been effectively reflected from the surface of the metal.
    In addition, the smoothness of a mirror’s glass and metal coating ensure that this surface reflection is specular, says Livingston. As a result, rays of light bounce “like tennis balls,”, always maintaining an angle of reflection to the mirror’s surface, that matches in value the rays’ angle of incidence. Rays of light originating from a person’s ear, nose, and eyebrow, will “reflect with the same angle” off a smooth mirror surface and maintain their relative orientation, thus preserving the image that our eyes will perceive.
    White surfaces can reflect a considerable amount of light, but without the mobile electrons to oppose the electric field of light, white surfaces allow light to penetrate up to several wavelengths. This allows them to experience multiple reflections from crystal grains and other irregularities within the structure of the surface. Some multiple-reflected light can reemerge from the material surface, but without the same orientation, as that which reflects off a mirror.
    Surface roughness, Livingston says, also contributes “diffuse reflection,” causing the rays of light from different parts of a potential image to “bounce back at different angles.” Multiple and diffuse reflections scatter the reflecting rays, and all information about the image is lost. White paint or a piece of paper are classic examples of light scattering, he notes, as are clouds, the foam in your glass of beer, and snow. These latter examples are turbulent or irregular structures, containing “lots of air,” which causes “light [to] reflect off internal and external surfaces” and scatters the rays of an image.
    It is striking to consider, Livingston adds, how a still pool of water may serve as a poor mirror. Yet, when the same water crystallizes into irregularly packed snow flakes, multiple and diffuse light reflection results in a white surface.
    Posted: February 21, 2012

    • @jasonstokes5469
      @jasonstokes5469 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it boils down to smoothness a lot too

  • @happygardener28
    @happygardener28 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was (not sure if it is still active) a website that had designs for parabolic cookers that I saw years ago. Solar cookers take a fragment of the parabolic idea and use a covered box to manage the heat. It does take an effort to plan your cooking ahead which is why solar cookers aren't as common in northern or rainy climates

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      seriously mate - there are a lot of ways to do this

    • @happygardener28
      @happygardener28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThinkingandTinkering indeed, and I know that everyone here deeply appreciates the information and ideas you've shared. What I'll be interested to see are the different and improved ways this group will expand on the concepts you've highlighted

  • @PhilR0gers
    @PhilR0gers ปีที่แล้ว

    If you were to use this for continuous use - for heating water, for example - you'd need it to track the sun.

  • @Dionysios_Skoularikis
    @Dionysios_Skoularikis ปีที่แล้ว

    You will take a large satellite dish, and you will rub it very well with graphite powder. It will become like a mirror.

  • @lanchesternaanyane
    @lanchesternaanyane ปีที่แล้ว

    I made one yesterday with an old satellite dish. I’ve been having so much fun. Want to heat water with it.

  • @uscitizen5656
    @uscitizen5656 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try a used Satellite antenna. I have a 1.2 meter that I'm going to paint with Rust-Oleum Gold. I have the arms that came with and just need to flip them to the top to make a hook to run water through to heat the pool

  • @UFZ7482
    @UFZ7482 ปีที่แล้ว

    An old satellite dish as former, of course if you have the LNB arm you know where the focal point is.

  • @chrissscottt
    @chrissscottt ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a 2.4m diameter satellite dish under the house that I picked up off the side of the road that I intend to do something with....

  • @gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
    @gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool. You could cut small sqares out of old cds and glue to any dish shape.

  • @julianmarsh7993
    @julianmarsh7993 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob on your wind turbines, could you show us what is available to get the power into the home, is there a storage system and components that could get it to 240volts......In essence what do we do with the energy coming out of a wind turbine.....Brilliant channel thanks.

  • @miniac60
    @miniac60 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:48 you mention a "Pennsylvanian" fire pit, lived in PA (that's what we call it, lol) since 1976. This is a new name to me, we just call them fire pits. Lmao

  • @rifattarkyararbas4058
    @rifattarkyararbas4058 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot....

  • @KronosGodwisen
    @KronosGodwisen ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are pretty enough.
    There are some non-imaging reflectors that are somewhat cone shape that I thought would be nice to try because the focal point is at the bottom of the cone, so you don't have to figure a way to hang stuff in front of the mirror. No doubt uses more material per square meter though.

  • @silverpc4611
    @silverpc4611 ปีที่แล้ว

    while its not going to be as big. you could 3d print a parabolic dish and use your mirror effect paint.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      nice idea mate - i was mulling it over lol

    • @Nikosi9
      @Nikosi9 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could just print the interlocking petals that could form the dish. Then cover it with whatever reflective material at hand.

  • @wayne7521
    @wayne7521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey love your video s Roberto , so how about , plastic dustbin lid , yeah ,
    A vacuum
    So first secure mylar sheet around bin lid edge ,
    Use vacuum pump ,or such to pull to shape ,
    Jold pressure , then make a 4 inch card wall of sorts ...
    Weigh down mylar sheet , carefully , so if you release vac , it stays
    Then replace vacuum with spray foam ..
    Yeah ti's expensive poss..
    And would take a knack , buy the pure mirror like quality should be worthy ...
    Oh amd aslong as the spray foam don't eat the mylar 😂

  • @MarcMallary
    @MarcMallary ปีที่แล้ว

    So how close would the ancient Greeks had to have been to burn their enemies ships?

  • @leighmurrell5494
    @leighmurrell5494 ปีที่แล้ว

    Find an old satellite dish at the tip.

  • @justtinkering6713
    @justtinkering6713 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First.
    Use a space blanket.

  • @ingebrigt8143
    @ingebrigt8143 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:40
    What if you put a liquid epoxy resin or some similar in to the container before evacuating it and then put it with its face down and let it cure?

  • @timphillips3275
    @timphillips3275 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you put them in a line ; hot spots to another dish, to another, etc.? to be a super laser?

  • @KaliFissure
    @KaliFissure ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting thing though.....
    That illustration is incorrect in that no two regular lenses can ever focus BOTH their light on the same place, without a mirror to deflect.

  • @lindap8157
    @lindap8157 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you pair one of these with a stirling engine?

  • @originsdecoded3508
    @originsdecoded3508 ปีที่แล้ว

    would all materials for the mirroring have the same reflective quality?

    • @originsdecoded3508
      @originsdecoded3508 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kensmith5694 Ultimately wouldnt mirrored glass be the best option?

  • @johnransom1146
    @johnransom1146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Inside of an umbrella?

  • @appiebrule
    @appiebrule ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever seen those two guys discovery who made a giant paella pan
    on solar with a big mirror?? It was a great video

  • @newlinerealboi3434
    @newlinerealboi3434 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yeah!

  • @TheGathumpus
    @TheGathumpus ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a look at this cheap way of making a mirror very inventive (and cheap) "How To Make Parabolic Mirrors From Space Blankets - NightHawkInLight"

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      seen and referenced it in this video - it is a mylar sheet curved with pressure - it's a challenge to actually do - but looks cool

    • @TheGathumpus
      @TheGathumpus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering ok thanks

  • @CanuckHam
    @CanuckHam ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not a parabolic photography unbrella?

  • @strongforce8466
    @strongforce8466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those things look pretty dangerous lol, handle with care.. perhaps you could look into making one that's connected to a steam engine somehow, that could be a fun project !

  • @jlivings2010
    @jlivings2010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Robert, could you focus that through a lens to create a concentrated beam? Could a series of lenses be used to further focus a concentrated beam of light to a distance? Thanks for all you do.

  • @brianknowles7130
    @brianknowles7130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use a dustbin lid eh !

  • @zipperdeedooha
    @zipperdeedooha ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not heat input for a stirling engine?

  • @davidprocter3578
    @davidprocter3578 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dick Strawbridge did something similar on telly years ago anyone interested should look it up.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      cheers

    • @davidprocter3578
      @davidprocter3578 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering Sorry it was not my intention to undermine your excellent video, I just thought those interested might like to check it out

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidprocter3578 no worries mate - different views and different ways of doing stuff are always good to see

  • @Theeoldmann
    @Theeoldmann ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's selling a 'Pennsylvania Firepit'? Because that's not a thing in the states, especially in Pennsylvania. Was it a 'Pittsburgh Steel' Inc./Co. product? They do have a firepit product.

  • @travismoore7849
    @travismoore7849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought you were going to polish a wok. Though chrome and polish the inside of the wok may be better.

  • @captdinglehopper
    @captdinglehopper ปีที่แล้ว

    Solomons temple speaks of "shields" of silver and gold mounted from the other posts of wood he got from the north in trade, which reflects lights to the inner chamber where burnt sacrifice according to solar cycles.

  • @Derek_Garnham
    @Derek_Garnham ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrezium should be a word, period.

  • @seamuscharles9028
    @seamuscharles9028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob are the nano petals you spoke of in a video the best for collecting energy from the sun With one of these petal mirrors

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      i don't understand what you mean by best mate - best depends on you and what you have in materials, tools, skills, time, space and what you want to do with it

  • @physicsbystanprisajny6284
    @physicsbystanprisajny6284 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a wheel reinvented?

  • @InfoSponge101
    @InfoSponge101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this what they are using in Canada?

  • @Clever_Motel
    @Clever_Motel ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not 3D print a grid similar to the JWST and mount mirrors to it? Design the model so the mirror faces are adjustable by fractions of a millimeter.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว

      no reason at all - go for it - i did it this way just to show how easy it can be

  • @ryanhorvath5816
    @ryanhorvath5816 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stirling engine fuel?

  • @brettmciver432
    @brettmciver432 ปีที่แล้ว

    sand battery heater

  • @BillDeWitt
    @BillDeWitt ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Also - Get a wide bucket or pan, fill it with a material that sets up, like plaster or cement, then spin it at a constant speed while it sets up. The centrifugal force causes it to form itself into a mathematically correct parabola, with a focus dependent on the speed of rotation. Then just layer on your reflective material. You could use it as a form to heat bend some stiffer material and go into production.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that sounds challenging mate - spinning a weight like that while it sets isn't an easy task - the change in viscosity as it sets will also mean spin speed will have to change or it will just be a lump - i amnot sure that is a particulalrly easy solution - have you tried it?

    • @BillDeWitt
      @BillDeWitt ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ThinkingandTinkering yes. I did it with plaster of paris on a potter's wheel and it set up long before I got tired. And once it gets up to speed, it takes the shape and doesn't change with viscosity. I was just making decorations, but it makes a true parabola. It doesn't take a lot of RPMs and once it's moving it doesn't take much to keep it moving. I suspect a small motor with a belt around the bucket would do a good job.Just hang the bucket from a hook in a bearing if you don't have a potter's wheel. A variable speed motor would give you a variable focal length. You can find the formula online.

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like an interesting use for one of those kiddie pools you can find being tossed out somewhere in the neighborhood. I suppose the tricky part would be building the turntable to put it on for doing this.

    • @BillDeWitt
      @BillDeWitt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pauljs75 to be sure, doing it with a larger size would be challenging. I was looking at his samples and remembering my efforts in a 5 gallon bucket. At about a meter in radius it would certainly start to be an engineering problem.

    • @whatelseison8970
      @whatelseison8970 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BillDeWitt Indeed it does become challenging, but it turns out at least one group (at the University of British Colombia IIRC) figured the challenge was worth it to build an 8 m telescope mirror using liquid mercury. Apparently the optical quality is superb and the cost is significantly less than grinding a mirror that size to similar precision. One major limitation is that you're limited to targets directly overhead.

  • @docink6175
    @docink6175 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really like that copper mirror effect! back in the day I carried a solar cigarette lighter, it was a conversation starter but not practical if you wanted to smoke at night or a cloudy/rainy day. That said I have a couple stashed away in different camp bags.. mostly as conversation starters..lol.. you can pick them up for a couple dollars or even make one by polishing the bottom of an aluminum can... I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned it but mylar glued to the bottom of a can would work and a LOT of folks carry those mylar space blankets... hhmmm food for thought...

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for sure mate

    • @StrumHollow
      @StrumHollow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not solar but back in the day I carried a permanent match. Fuel was inside, unscrew a flint and strike it on the side. It had two geese pictured on it 'doing it' on the wing and the words "fly united" :)

    • @docink6175
      @docink6175 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StrumHollow HA I remember those! I had a helmet sticker like that and one with 2 bigs makin bacon..

  • @StrumHollow
    @StrumHollow ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I built a cardboard & kitchen foil solar cooker from plans in Mother Earth News magazine back in the 70s. It barely fit in the back of my station wagon for transport and it was necessary to chase the sun around the yard just to tan a couple of hot dogs. Sun glasses were a must. The cooker had an adjustable curtain rod in the center to mark the focal length where a grill was put for the cook surface. Sure would have been better if it was a fold up design.

  • @HeatherNaturaly
    @HeatherNaturaly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not technically minded, but I have this idea in my head.. Could you use concentrated solar thermal.. like the following
    Have a pressurized water container that was heated via the CST that when heated would behave like a steam engine to push pistons that would produce electricity. While the steam from the engine would be recirculated via a 'still' type set up so you could just keep using the same water, thus removing the need to constantly refuel the 'generator? Electricity stored in batteries, of course.

  • @nickbaylander6320
    @nickbaylander6320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your good man. I wonder if you could use a stainless bowl. The restaurant style are very reflective. Also on your last video. I wonder if you used different color tubing if it would make the spectrum different. It would open up whole new door right?

  • @slrnuttall
    @slrnuttall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant mate! Would your mirror paint give enough reflectivity? If so, then that is even easier than any kind of foil/mylar application. Just a thought. Cheers!

  • @themeek351
    @themeek351 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just had an idea earlier today about using a solar powered XY carriage that can use a magnifying glass to burn images into paper or anything else!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oh - i like that - thanks for sharing mate

    • @christianeaton
      @christianeaton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Search for the Sun Cutter by Markus Kayser from 2011, using a spherical lens. He also sintered sand using the sun. Quite incredible.

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You didn't remember to warn people to not leave it laying about in the garden when they've finished with it, those morning rays the next day could set their street on fire if they hit the dish at 'the wrong angle'!

  • @joohop
    @joohop ปีที่แล้ว

    Spray Paint The Sky Dish With Mirror Paint?
    Bless Up Fella

  • @dr.354
    @dr.354 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Murray, once again a great video. I have seen a documentary where they tried to burn ships in some hundred meters distance like the ancient Greek. It did not work, but they also just used several flat mirrors (each person holding one). I think it did not work due to human error (not all people could hold the mirror stable) and no focus. Can you manage this historic experiment with some improvements?

  • @the_other_apg
    @the_other_apg ปีที่แล้ว

    Briiiant prgramme yet again! Is the spray flexible when administered because, what about a converted umbrella!!! Just a crazy thought LoL!

  • @caseyvillemodelrailroad3877
    @caseyvillemodelrailroad3877 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vidio, like the idea for making the dish. Had plastic sheet miorr 1.5'×3' leaning against the house, plastic got hot and bent then the sun burnt a black make across a post 6' away. Thanks for the morning coffee...

  • @toddburgess6792
    @toddburgess6792 ปีที่แล้ว

    For we Yanks, those radius measurements are as follows: golf ball, baseball, grapefruit and finally, bowling ball, because millimeters are not our thing. 🙂

  • @NeoShameMan
    @NeoShameMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! this will shorten making it so much!
    Still struggling on the stirling, all I have is empty 2.5 kg nido milk can and empty 200g of can of vegetable. Most example use membrane I can't get around this so far.

  • @justtinkering6713
    @justtinkering6713 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only you could use that expanding foam to back the mylar, it would be ridgid.

  • @wayne7521
    @wayne7521 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have a wood lathe , suppose you could , rim a bowl out , to required shape ,
    Drill hundreds of vac holes , spray glue , and stretch mylar again, vacuum form it ??

  • @n3qxc
    @n3qxc ปีที่แล้ว

    go big or go home....! let's try a trampoline covered in Mylar! add a heavy weight to the center to pull down the material to produce the focal point! I dont want to cook a steak.. I wanna cook the entire cow!

  • @donaldburkhard7932
    @donaldburkhard7932 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a 3D printer, use it to make parabolic shape. Then you can decide the focal point.

  • @stewartpalmer2456
    @stewartpalmer2456 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget to make the f-stop. A piece of cardboard with a cutout circle would do nicely.

  • @Jeff-gt2xu
    @Jeff-gt2xu ปีที่แล้ว

    something like an umbrella that is more parabolic rather than bowl shaped.

  • @8ank3r
    @8ank3r ปีที่แล้ว

    I came across an old video from 3 years ago entitled "The Future of the Channel" or something like that. It mentioned selling shares in your company. Do you still do that?