Good video Chris. I always thought time of year helps to. Summer time it's a lot harder to keep shad alive. Winter time seems a lot easier. The amount of bait your trying to keep alive factors in also. I would say in your tank on larger shad 2 to 3 dozen would be the number. I'm sure you could get by with more but I think 2 or 3 dozen would keep the bait more hearty. When I'm using shad as cut bait I have always preferred to have them alive when I cut them. Just my preference.
Thanks Buddy and yep your absolutely right time of year and size of baits always plays a big factor in it. I normally suggest and stick to the one shad per gal on normal conditions and then less than that in hot months
Love the videos Chris! I have a 16 boat and have been looking to use more shad. Is there a size tank you would recommend for a boat that size? I have little experience with shad tanks. Really appreciate the information you are willing to share!
Thanks River Certified I appreciate that. Xtreme Bait Systems makes a 20 gal that would probably work great for your situation. Give them a call 317-402-7277 and they will get you taken care of. Also make sure to let them know I sent you PLEASE!!!
SS earl in a dam setting Im going to figure your trying to fish some sort of seam. Some times you will have to move just a little bit to one side or the other to get the boat set up right on the seam. But as swift as the current is at dams I wouldn’t recommend you use a drift sock but if you did a very small one just because of the dangers that can arise so quickly. Be very careful in those dams. The fishing can be good but the dangers are multiplied greatly.
How do you keep the bait tank pump running all night...separate battery hookup while day time battery is charging???? Or do you just put it on the charger with pump running?????
Great Video Chris. One question, should I add a little extra salt and chemicals in summer time to allow for the chlorine in the ice I add. In summer it gets mighty hot around here and I like to add ice ever so often. Thanks
Maybe I silly question but how many thread finshad or gizzard shad per gallon of tank you are using . To fish in 24hr will that tank will keep alive. Thanks for your information 👍
Normally I recommend 1 per gal if they are large (10-12 inches). 2 per gallon if they are 8 inches. 3 per gallon if they are 5 to 7 inches. And if they are smaller 4
I have oval shaped livewells in my Champion to keep them out of the corners. I wonder if constant recirculated lake water would be better than using treated water with the circulated lake water turned off like when the lake water temps are in the 70s ?
Hey James Barron if you are only going to catch them that day and use them that day then that would work but they will do much better starting with treated water. Thanks for watching
Hey Chris I haven’t started using shad yet but have minnow and chub live well tanks. Question is what does the salt do? And do people use salt in home bait tanks for other fresh water bait?
Hey Tom Beckett it helps harden scales and rejuvenate the baits slime coat and reduces the effects of stress on shad. Shad can be very difficult to keep alive for very long they get stressed very easy. Creek Chubs and Bluegills the salt is not needed, they are very hardy! Now with that being said salt won’t hurt other bait either. I keep other bait in with my shad and also add some salt to the water even if I’m not using shad just to help condition the water. Hope this helps and thank you for watching.
Hey Chris, I am keeping shad alive a little better every trip. I put them in a big treated tube of well water to poo. Then after about 25 shad for 15 min I put them in my treated live well water with my minnow net. My problem is that my pump filter gets clogged up so easy. I have a clap on battery type with the spray bar and suckencups and filter in the bottom. Any suggestions????
If it has the filter on the bottom you could make it bigger or you could do a little diy project out of pvc pipe that it could sit in and have filters on top of it that way you would have more surface area to filter. Let me know if that helps. Thanks for watching
Great video, how often do I need to add chemicals to my bait tank? I have 2 tanks, one for the boat and one in my garage to keep bait fish for a week or more at a time.
Great Question Kevin and I normally only add them when I put fresh water in the tank. Or start the tank up. Now I’ll add things like the Slunger Cat Outdoors foam off as need to keep the foam off the top.
After I catch my bait I usually pump about half the water out and clean the scales of the pump sock at least twice depending on number of baitfish caught. Is that a waist of time?
You use "TAP WATER"? Are you on "CITY WATER" or a "WELL"? HUGE difference. City water is treated with chlorine. Well water comes right out of the ground. Also, water temperature between the river where you caught the shad and the tank. Is there a dangerous difference if the tank is warmer or cooler than the water they just came out of when you caught them?
Great question James. I start with tap water. Then I make sure not to overload the tank keeping it to 1 big shad per gal of water. I try to make sure to keep them out of direct sun light if possible and at times add ice to the filter side But keep in mind fluctuating the water temp up and down is just as hard on them as hot water.
Hey Chris, I build a 100gal. tank for the house, its got circulation, filter, and aeration. If I'm keeping bait long term(weeks/months), how often should I treat the water?
Unfortunately as far as now I’ve not been ask so I don’t believe so. But there is going to be some very good seminars this year. I will be there both days working sponsors booths and talking to everyone sonhope to see you there.
yeah I got a question. I know this is an old video but.... why do you take a freshwater fish out of the lake and then stick them in a tank full of salt water, I don't get it. I have a friend who's a lake striper guide he tells me the same thing and he has no earthly idea why he just does it. As a saltwater fishing guide myself I never take a saltwater fish and stick it in tap water. I use menhaden, the toughest fish in all of saltwater to keep alive, and kickin, but at the same time we don't try to keep them in a tank for days. No one adds anything. We use recycled bait tanks, water on water out. Don't understand why you guys just don't do that. Other than trying to keep these bait fish alive for days.
I take a big plastic laundry tube just for that. keep all the same water temp about 72 -80 and move them with the net after about 15 min. and about 25 at a time. Same tub water.
Made my own bait tank after seeing the price on the tank youre recommneding. Not alot of us fisherman especially with todays cost can justify the price of these bait tanks. Even 1400 dollars is to much for us fisherman on a budget. My bait tank i built out of a 120 quart ice chest and i can keep my shad alive all day. Im sorry sir like i said most of us budget fisherman are on strict budgets and cant justify the $1400-$3500 cost of these tanks
Depending on the boat often times a baitwell in a boat will have corners and the shad will swim into the corner and drown, bait tanks are made round or oval so there are no corners so the shad continuously swim
Rob Fife not really I just try to keep the water as clean as I can. Also while I’m not on the water I’ll keep it in the shade to help with the temperature but that’s about it. Now if I notice the water conditions getting bad I will do a water change. Thanks for watching
Thank you for providing “real” life explanations. They are very helpful.
Another great and informative video Chris. 👍
Thanks Matt
Good video Chris. I always thought time of year helps to. Summer time it's a lot harder to keep shad alive. Winter time seems a lot easier. The amount of bait your trying to keep alive factors in also. I would say in your tank on larger shad 2 to 3 dozen would be the number. I'm sure you could get by with more but I think 2 or 3 dozen would keep the bait more hearty. When I'm using shad as cut bait I have always preferred to have them alive when I cut them. Just my preference.
Thanks Buddy and yep your absolutely right time of year and size of baits always plays a big factor in it. I normally suggest and stick to the one shad per gal on normal conditions and then less than that in hot months
Great info Chris keep the videos coming
Thanks Junior Proctor blue dog fishing
Great video, and very detailed and informative. Question: Can you use salt in a 30 gallon minnow tank?
Awesome video buddy, Thanks for all the information!
Your very welcome and thank you for watching
Love the videos Chris! I have a 16 boat and have been looking to use more shad. Is there a size tank you would recommend for a boat that size? I have little experience with shad tanks. Really appreciate the information you are willing to share!
Thanks River Certified I appreciate that. Xtreme Bait Systems makes a 20 gal that would probably work great for your situation. Give them a call 317-402-7277 and they will get you taken care of. Also make sure to let them know I sent you PLEASE!!!
If I go that route I'll definitely let them know where I got the suggestions. Hope the fish keep treating you right!
Sounds good thank yea
On my 2nd x-treme bait Systems tank best on the market and customer service
Absolutely agree Leonard Coalson
Thanks Chris
Your welcome SS earl. Thanks for watching
Hey Chris what size drift sock could a guy use at a dam where the water is very swift
SS earl if you don’t mind me asking what is your reason for wanting to use one in that kind of water?
Chris Souders to keep the boat from swaying
SS earl in a dam setting Im going to figure your trying to fish some sort of seam. Some times you will have to move just a little bit to one side or the other to get the boat set up right on the seam. But as swift as the current is at dams I wouldn’t recommend you use a drift sock but if you did a very small one just because of the dangers that can arise so quickly. Be very careful in those dams. The fishing can be good but the dangers are multiplied greatly.
Great info bud 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Douglas lake
How do you keep the bait tank pump running all night...separate battery hookup while day time battery is charging???? Or do you just put it on the charger with pump running?????
Great Video Chris. One question, should I add a little extra salt and chemicals in summer time to allow for the chlorine in the ice I add. In summer it gets mighty hot around here and I like to add ice ever so often. Thanks
Thank you and no I don’t think so. But I’d be careful adding ice to the water anytime I’ve ever done it it’s caused more issues than good.
What should the temperature of the water be at during the summer for bait tank?
Great video!!! Did you add those knobs to the lids, or is that an option? I like that, but wasn’t seeing it on their website as an option? Thanks…
At the time of this video they were an option but have been done away with since then
Maybe I silly question but how many thread finshad or gizzard shad per gallon of tank you are using . To fish in 24hr will that tank will keep alive. Thanks for your information 👍
Normally I recommend 1 per gal if they are large (10-12 inches). 2 per gallon if they are 8 inches. 3 per gallon if they are 5 to 7 inches. And if they are smaller 4
I have oval shaped livewells in my Champion to keep them out of the corners. I wonder if constant recirculated lake water would be better than using treated water with the circulated lake water turned off like when the lake water temps are in the 70s ?
Hey James Barron if you are only going to catch them that day and use them that day then that would work but they will do much better starting with treated water. Thanks for watching
Can you use salt for creek chubs and blue Gil?
Hey Chris I haven’t started using shad yet but have minnow and chub live well tanks. Question is what does the salt do? And do people use salt in home bait tanks for other fresh water bait?
Hey Tom Beckett it helps harden scales and rejuvenate the baits slime coat and reduces the effects of stress on shad. Shad can be very difficult to keep alive for very long they get stressed very easy. Creek Chubs and Bluegills the salt is not needed, they are very hardy! Now with that being said salt won’t hurt other bait either. I keep other bait in with my shad and also add some salt to the water even if I’m not using shad just to help condition the water. Hope this helps and thank you for watching.
Hey Chris, I am keeping shad alive a little better every trip. I put them in a big treated tube of well water to poo. Then after about 25 shad for 15 min I put them in my treated live well water with my minnow net. My problem is that my pump filter gets clogged up so easy. I have a clap on battery type with the spray bar and suckencups and filter in the bottom. Any suggestions????
If it has the filter on the bottom you could make it bigger or you could do a little diy project out of pvc pipe that it could sit in and have filters on top of it that way you would have more surface area to filter. Let me know if that helps. Thanks for watching
Great video, how often do I need to add chemicals to my bait tank? I have 2 tanks, one for the boat and one in my garage to keep bait fish for a week or more at a time.
Great Question Kevin and I normally only add them when I put fresh water in the tank. Or start the tank up. Now I’ll add things like the Slunger Cat Outdoors foam off as need to keep the foam off the top.
When are you going to do a video on loading and throwing a net
Real soon it’s coming up on the list now that it’s starting to warm up some!!
After I catch my bait I usually pump about half the water out and clean the scales of the pump sock at least twice depending on number of baitfish caught. Is that a waist of time?
No anything you do to get that water clean is good!!! Just remember to do it with good water.
I also use peroxide for oxygenation. Is that true as my papaw said?
I have herd that but not a 100% sure!!
Do you drain the tank in the boat even though it has salt in it? I know aluminum doesn’t rust but it will pit and corrode correct?
Normally no but sometimes. Most times I’ll use a hose or bucket.
Do you use ice to keep the water temp cool??
What is a good battery to run this tank on? I just bought a 20 and didn’t think I should probably hook it into my troller batteries
Jacob I would recommend a 29-31 series marine battery. Those will normally run a tank for up to 24 hrs depending on the size tank you have.
You use "TAP WATER"? Are you on "CITY WATER" or a "WELL"? HUGE difference. City water is treated with chlorine. Well water comes right out of the ground. Also, water temperature between the river where you caught the shad and the tank. Is there a dangerous difference if the tank is warmer or cooler than the water they just came out of when you caught them?
That’s over 300 lbs added to your boat. How much bait do you need? Here the bag limit for black bass is 5.
How do you keep your bait at temperature in the summer
Great question James. I start with tap water. Then I make sure not to overload the tank keeping it to 1 big shad per gal of water. I try to make sure to keep them out of direct sun light if possible and at times add ice to the filter side But keep in mind fluctuating the water temp up and down is just as hard on them as hot water.
Hey Chris, I build a 100gal. tank for the house, its got circulation, filter, and aeration. If I'm keeping bait long term(weeks/months), how often should I treat the water?
Honestly once you get it rolling and do you start up you shouldn’t have to treat it unless you empty it.
@@slungercatoutdoors OK cool. Thanks for getting back at me
Chris will you be giving a seminar at the catfish conference this coming year ? Ty
Unfortunately as far as now I’ve not been ask so I don’t believe so. But there is going to be some very good seminars this year. I will be there both days working sponsors booths and talking to everyone sonhope to see you there.
@@slungercatoutdoors yes absolutely I will be there. Would like to speak to you and pick your brain. I will def be there I am only 40 miles away
Sounds good!!
Is the river ever gonna get down and stay down lol where are you headed to get on some flatheads?
I sure wish it would!! This up and down stuff is driving me crazy lol. Good luck
@@slungercatoutdoors hopefully it makes for some monster bluecats this winter
I sure hope so cause I’m ready for some!!!
How long will they be in your salted tank????
What temperature do you maintain?
I try to keep it below 80 if I can
Do these chemicals off set the chlorine in tap water .
Yes sir. There is a link in the description box for you that way you know your buying the correct stuff. Thanks for watching
yeah I got a question. I know this is an old video but.... why do you take a freshwater fish out of the lake and then stick them in a tank full of salt water, I don't get it. I have a friend who's a lake striper guide he tells me the same thing and he has no earthly idea why he just does it. As a saltwater fishing guide myself I never take a saltwater fish and stick it in tap water. I use menhaden, the toughest fish in all of saltwater to keep alive, and kickin, but at the same time we don't try to keep them in a tank for days. No one adds anything. We use recycled bait tanks, water on water out. Don't understand why you guys just don't do that. Other than trying to keep these bait fish alive for days.
When you first net the Shad do they do right in the tank or in a holding tank to shed and poop ? If so how long
I take a big plastic laundry tube just for that. keep all the same water temp about 72 -80 and move them with the net after about 15 min. and about 25 at a time. Same tub water.
Made my own bait tank after seeing the price on the tank youre recommneding. Not alot of us fisherman especially with todays cost can justify the price of these bait tanks. Even 1400 dollars is to much for us fisherman on a budget. My bait tank i built out of a 120 quart ice chest and i can keep my shad alive all day. Im sorry sir like i said most of us budget fisherman are on strict budgets and cant justify the $1400-$3500 cost of these tanks
Why not just use the bait well in your boat ?
Unfortunately they don’t do as well in there as they do in an actual bait tank like Xtreme Bait Systems.
Depending on the boat often times a baitwell in a boat will have corners and the shad will swim into the corner and drown, bait tanks are made round or oval so there are no corners so the shad continuously swim
Any certain temperature you like to keep it at
Rob Fife not really I just try to keep the water as clean as I can. Also while I’m not on the water I’ll keep it in the shade to help with the temperature but that’s about it. Now if I notice the water conditions getting bad I will do a water change. Thanks for watching
It's extremely hard to try and maintain a temp, if you change temp drastically it will affect shad health as they don't like drastic changes