So here's why this ending is important as initially, we have the start of this episode in a timeline where Roger is left to run amok due to the broken fairy circle that is supposed to bind and prevent him from his reign as PM through nuclear warfare. We call this timeline A, where Fairy Circle is gone and Roger runs amok as Mad Jack since the circle has been disrespected and can no longer do its job. Then we are brought to timeline B which is where The Fairy circle traps Ruby in the moment she reads out the sealing scroll "Rest in peace, Mad Jack", and removes the existence of the Doctor and the functioning Tardis as punishment. Ruby is forced to pay, with her suffering now as penance for reading the scroll that is meant to seal Mad Jack, and the Doctor's existence is removed for his fault of stepping. For Ruby, her punishment is in a way that the fairies chose to be the best way of Targeting Ruby's fears, abandonment (i.e everyone hating and abandoning her after trying to help her(the willing and able to care for her) by interacting with the lady that is semper distans). However, Ruby does pay her penance by defeating Mad Jack, while also living out her whole life and coming to terms with her fear of abandonment in life. And for that lifetime of penance for Ruby, she is given the chance to teleport back to Timeline C (or rather A but given the opportunity to make it become the diverging timeline C), and convince the duo of young her and The Doctor to not step on the sealing fairy circle which is not respected and functioning to remove the existence of Mad Jack (notice how the only possible mentioning of Jack here now are that he is the worst PM, but nothing about the nuclear warfare stuff). Thus no punishment and everything is restored.
I rewatched this scene through this youtube video and saw the scene with different eyes then when I watched it during the weekend. We see Marti Bridges 3 times. The first time is shortly after the interview. She lookes happy, wearing colorful clothes and makeup. She seems happy. That's when she meets Roger ap Gwilliam. The second time is shortly after Roger wins the elections. She's sitting in a corner of the Albion place where they're celebrating his victory. She wears dark clothes, except from the promotional t-shirt she's wearing. The makeup on her face is replaced by dark circles underneath her eyes. She seems miserable, troubled. I'd imagine she lays awake at night. There were some theories that this was all hinting towards SA. While I support this theory, it might also be possible this all just hints towards Marti despising Roger, though if it was just that, that wouldn't explain why she switched sides, so to speak. Think of it what you will, but I assume the SA theory holds truth. The third time we see Marti is this scene. Just before Ruby walks onto the pitch, she apologizes to Marti. She says she's sorry for not helping sooner because she had to be sure. It breaks my heart because Ruby saw the damage Roger was doing, she knew how much it hurt Marti to see Roger winning the elections and rising to power, but she couldn't interfere just yet because she had to be sure. All I can do is hope that Marti in the fixed timeline does not also come across Roger ap Gwilliam, at least not in this form.
It took a while for this to hit me, but you know the racism bomb dropped at the end of the dot and bubble episode? Marti was the MeToo equivalent. Roger might have been stopped before it ever got to this point if a single person in his campaign and staff had listened to Marti, or wondered what was going on with her.
so this episode tells about the time loop or warning of the character to past self or trying to rewrite the past. this episode was quite of mystery because the doctor wasn't there to explain everything. can someone enlightenment me?
This season is all about the effects of the Toymaker’s demise had on the universe, so this Fae are probably offsprings of him and are able to create alternative timelines, erase the Doctor from existence as a punishment for disrupting their circle etc.
Okay, so at the end of the episode, when everything resets and the whole episode essentially never happened - does Roger ap Gwilliam rise to power and nuke the world, since he doesn't get stopped in that timeline?
They stop him in the timeline in which he was going to win and use nuclear weapons, but that does not happen in the "normal" timeline in which the series takes place, although Ruby appears to have kept some "memories" of the line time in which this happens.
What I don´t quite get is why are they making such a fuss about Ruby walking on the field? I mean the guards were ready to shoot her if she wouldn´t comply.
Could be wrong but think anybody holding a device towards the prime minister, then ignoring people shouting at them to stop probably made them paranoid
@@hazmat7949 They seemingly knew it was a smartphone because they said "No filming" but you have a good point, as they didn´t know what Ruby was trying to do.
Well, this is a world with Alien Invasions every third Friday. She might have been doing any number of things, with any sort of alien technology that’s not been cleaned up by UNIT. Now, the Doctor and the Tardis being out of play ‘Froze the Timeline’ or however Kate put it, but that’s just preventing new things from happening. Not that people know that, but its still a nightmare for security. The response would be ‘Excuse You, Put that Down’ “Does Not Comply, and Continues.” ‘Arms Ready’
They were in a closed off area getting ready for a live speech from the soon to be prime minister. It's a high security situation, that's how guards are supposed to act, if anything it's unrealistic that she wasn't immediately tackled or shot.
Given that Roger ap Gwilliam made the decision to pull the UK out of N.A.T.O. and acquired Pakistan's nukes. This would've definitely angered the United States of America
"Independent from NATO." NATO isn't some governing body. It's a club. This is like saying I'm intendent from my D&D group because I chose to go on a date instead of going to the game.
So here's why this ending is important as initially, we have the start of this episode in a timeline where Roger is left to run amok due to the broken fairy circle that is supposed to bind and prevent him from his reign as PM through nuclear warfare. We call this timeline A, where Fairy Circle is gone and Roger runs amok as Mad Jack since the circle has been disrespected and can no longer do its job.
Then we are brought to timeline B which is where The Fairy circle traps Ruby in the moment she reads out the sealing scroll "Rest in peace, Mad Jack", and removes the existence of the Doctor and the functioning Tardis as punishment. Ruby is forced to pay, with her suffering now as penance for reading the scroll that is meant to seal Mad Jack, and the Doctor's existence is removed for his fault of stepping. For Ruby, her punishment is in a way that the fairies chose to be the best way of Targeting Ruby's fears, abandonment (i.e everyone hating and abandoning her after trying to help her(the willing and able to care for her) by interacting with the lady that is semper distans). However, Ruby does pay her penance by defeating Mad Jack, while also living out her whole life and coming to terms with her fear of abandonment in life.
And for that lifetime of penance for Ruby, she is given the chance to teleport back to Timeline C (or rather A but given the opportunity to make it become the diverging timeline C), and convince the duo of young her and The Doctor to not step on the sealing fairy circle which is not respected and functioning to remove the existence of Mad Jack (notice how the only possible mentioning of Jack here now are that he is the worst PM, but nothing about the nuclear warfare stuff). Thus no punishment and everything is restored.
I maintain Ruby is still an important piece of the puzzle. She could make it snow, after all.
My only complaint with this episode is Rudy does not look 40 here. They did what they could but it obvious she didn’t look 30 or 40 in these scenes
She lives in the future. It's safe to say beauty technology improves a lot.
shes got that mum glasses
@@JohnPasay right like look at her phone, the flying cars and holograms outside her window
just noticed their party logo is the same one the master used when he took charge in season 3
no its not, vote saxon had an X while this was an A?
I rewatched this scene through this youtube video and saw the scene with different eyes then when I watched it during the weekend.
We see Marti Bridges 3 times. The first time is shortly after the interview. She lookes happy, wearing colorful clothes and makeup. She seems happy. That's when she meets Roger ap Gwilliam.
The second time is shortly after Roger wins the elections. She's sitting in a corner of the Albion place where they're celebrating his victory. She wears dark clothes, except from the promotional t-shirt she's wearing. The makeup on her face is replaced by dark circles underneath her eyes. She seems miserable, troubled. I'd imagine she lays awake at night.
There were some theories that this was all hinting towards SA. While I support this theory, it might also be possible this all just hints towards Marti despising Roger, though if it was just that, that wouldn't explain why she switched sides, so to speak. Think of it what you will, but I assume the SA theory holds truth.
The third time we see Marti is this scene. Just before Ruby walks onto the pitch, she apologizes to Marti. She says she's sorry for not helping sooner because she had to be sure. It breaks my heart because Ruby saw the damage Roger was doing, she knew how much it hurt Marti to see Roger winning the elections and rising to power, but she couldn't interfere just yet because she had to be sure. All I can do is hope that Marti in the fixed timeline does not also come across Roger ap Gwilliam, at least not in this form.
It took a while for this to hit me, but you know the racism bomb dropped at the end of the dot and bubble episode? Marti was the MeToo equivalent. Roger might have been stopped before it ever got to this point if a single person in his campaign and staff had listened to Marti, or wondered what was going on with her.
This episode is confusing with many things, but I'm quite sure that people might agree how clever written this scene was. What a script, what a music.
“Can you leave me alone now”
This is how you use a SCP
Don't you think he looks tired?
Interesting reference but I don't think that would work the same on a man as it did on a woman.
So if this thing is always 73 years away from her, why did she move forward to move backwards? Why wasn’t the woman in the middle of he pitch already?
so this episode tells about the time loop or warning of the character to past self or trying to rewrite the past. this episode was quite of mystery because the doctor wasn't there to explain everything. can someone enlightenment me?
This season is all about the effects of the Toymaker’s demise had on the universe, so this Fae are probably offsprings of him and are able to create alternative timelines, erase the Doctor from existence as a punishment for disrupting their circle etc.
Okay, so at the end of the episode, when everything resets and the whole episode essentially never happened - does Roger ap Gwilliam rise to power and nuke the world, since he doesn't get stopped in that timeline?
They stop him in the timeline in which he was going to win and use nuclear weapons, but that does not happen in the "normal" timeline in which the series takes place, although Ruby appears to have kept some "memories" of the line time in which this happens.
I think the Doctor mentioned he helped remove him from power in the main timeline, hence why Ruby had to do it in this one
What I don´t quite get is why are they making such a fuss about Ruby walking on the field? I mean the guards were ready to shoot her if she wouldn´t comply.
It's some stupid tension building thing. I also disliked it. It doesn't make sense as standing in the stands would give you line of sight to the PM.
Could be wrong but think anybody holding a device towards the prime minister, then ignoring people shouting at them to stop probably made them paranoid
@@hazmat7949 They seemingly knew it was a smartphone because they said "No filming" but you have a good point, as they didn´t know what Ruby was trying to do.
Well, this is a world with Alien Invasions every third Friday. She might have been doing any number of things, with any sort of alien technology that’s not been cleaned up by UNIT.
Now, the Doctor and the Tardis being out of play ‘Froze the Timeline’ or however Kate put it, but that’s just preventing new things from happening. Not that people know that, but its still a nightmare for security.
The response would be ‘Excuse You, Put that Down’ “Does Not Comply, and Continues.” ‘Arms Ready’
They were in a closed off area getting ready for a live speech from the soon to be prime minister. It's a high security situation, that's how guards are supposed to act, if anything it's unrealistic that she wasn't immediately tackled or shot.
He's the Minister of War.
I think the minister of war is the master (my opinion tho).
So this means that in the proper timeline Roger does cause a nuclear war because Ruby isn’t there to stop him right?
Or maybe since the Doctor didn't step on the circle, things could change.
I mean, we saw Ruby step on a butterfly and change everything.
@@Courage-In-All lol i like how he just has a button in the Tardis to prevent the specific butterfly issue and just forgot to turn it on
That means..The Time War didn’t exist?
@Lemuel928 The time war does since that happened years before.
In Empire of Death, it’s revealed that the Doctor did stop him.
Given that Roger ap Gwilliam made the decision to pull the UK out of N.A.T.O. and acquired Pakistan's nukes.
This would've definitely angered the United States of America
If only she could do this to our current government 😅
We got BBC News crossovwe in Doctor Who!
does anyone know the name of the score from 2:45 onwards?
I still want to know what the people see/hear when that woman stands near them, and why they freak out and get pissed off with Ruby afterward.
I can't believe you're the only person in this comment section acknowledging one of the biggest plot holes of many in this episode.
if ruby is a god, i been thinking it since this ep came out, the laugh and time wibbling stuff. i think she def will be of some sort
Mad Max is literally like a future Trump and Farrage, except he succeeded as an independent. This season was clever and funny!
Will Murray Gold release this soundtrack? Probably not. The fucking gobling songs is all we'll get. What a sick joke.
If that’s ruby as an old woman what the hell happened when people where near her
"Independent from NATO."
NATO isn't some governing body. It's a club. This is like saying I'm intendent from my D&D group because I chose to go on a date instead of going to the game.