James Hetfield does all those warm-ups. It does sound lame, but it will help your voice...take your pick, do embarrassing vocal exercises or blow out your voice.
Your all dead ass wrong saying they weren't friends. Yeah the fame put wedges between them, but Dave saying Kurts handwritten letter to him calling them "brothers" showed they were just strained. Or Kurt apologizing to Dave after almost ODing in Rome. None of us were there, but there's more proof to them being brothers then them hating eachother.
I remember reading a story online in the late 90s by his sister who said that when they would go out to the lake he would start screaming and she asked him what he was doing and he said "stretching out my vocal chords" :) I wish I could find all of those storys again, the internet was a bit smaller back then and you could actually find his relatives and what they wrote about him online.
I read that also. That story was published in a book. Not sure if it was "come as you are" but it was certainly a book published just around/after his death.
Morrison did the same. Instead of taking training vocal, he chose to "train" his vocal chords by screaming his lungs out. I mean, wtf. I guess that they would have lost their voices eventually, but, there is Dave Grohl, another big time screamer. I don't know.
I don't really get why you came to a Kurt related video to comment that, i mean, you know you are a nobody right? The vast majority of people wont give a shit about your "shitty" opinion.
And these biographies I've read. There's no book or biography that i know of saying he *didn't* take vocal lessons at some short point. So that's not a reason. A sited source saying he didn't. Then your right. So you prove your point. Tho not sure what the name calling has to do with any of it. Grow up kid or you'll be swallowed by the ones who actually understand the world. Stop being a key board warrior.
Actually, if Kurt has lived, he 1000% would have needed to start doing vocal warm ups and voice maintenance or else he would have blown out his vocal cords and been done by the age of 35. Facts
Eddie Vedder doesn't sing like he used to in the 90s and I guarantee you this is why. Cobain 100% would have either done a nirvana album that bombed, toned it way back to the acoustic sound he was moving towards, or stopped making music until he could see a professional. I respect what Dave is saying in that it was unique enough that he didn't need a coach at the time, but there is zero sustainability in that. Best evidence? Despite Nirvana's success, I'm positive that Dave Grohl sees a vocal coach for the foo fighters; hence why he's still banging it out in his 40s just fine
I think what helped Cobain was that his voice was really unique, so he only had to have a moderate amount of vocal skill and his signature harsh and ever so slightly nasal sound that he had made up for his lack of training, a unique voice is better than a highly trained one.
I think you're right and I'd like to add that one thing made him so great was that his pitch was very perfect, for the most part live when he was at his best too. Whether it be quite and stripped down on Unplugged or yelling the end of Territorial Pissings, he was always pitch perfect imo with the undertone of that gravel.
The guy was a punk. Listen to Mexican Seafood. Kurt was just not bothered by what anyone thought about his voice. Also an extremely underrated guitarist
I don't think he was getting emotional, his voice just got shaky. That was not something to get emotional about and he was laughing afterwards. Who knows though.
I think it was more of a quiver in anticipation of how funny the story's climax is. The thought of the irony that Kurt would be doing these "me me me"s to warm up.
Rick D He sold out. Sorry for the foo-f fans. But he did. I agree with Buzz from the Melvins, he suddenly didnt knew them anymore. Kurt didnt like him at the end either (i dont think what courtney said was true, like, he was officialy kicked out of the band, but Kurt couldnt stand him anymore for some reason. On the other hand, (and thats the only thing i have against Kurt) Kurt suddenly became a dick about the money issue. Out of the blue, after ALL those years, months before his death he went up to Novoselic and Grohl, and said they had only the right to gain 25% of the money, and he alone 75 because he wrote the lyrics. And for SOME reason (though i cant prove it) this was that bitch talking in his ear... Or maybe kurt turned suddenly into a dick, though i dont think so because otherwise he would have said this way before that.
SimplyLimbo i dont agree with any of that nonsense of kurt not liking krist or dave at the end. Dave was nearly in tears accepting the award that year at mtv awards for nirvana, and just saying he wishes his friend was still here, you dont say that stuff when its come down that someone suddenly hates you. The money thing, very well could be true, courtney = yoko. Kurt just didnt have the passion anymore for the stage, and you can see a broken man in mtv live and loud show, (that show was 3 months before his death btw). Its all speculation. And now, its all history.
I could never imagine kurt doing any form of vocal training, the guy sang from the heart, his music sounded good to him, it was joy that's why it was so easy for him
James Hetfield lost his voice whilst doing the black album and went to see a vocal coach who did the same kind of vocal exercises tape. It helped him. A singer has to take his/her voice seriously and fine tune it. Cobain was a great vocalist nonetheless.
The problem is, that a lot of these singers should've been classically trained from the start and then they could of carried on screaming for years to come with no loss.
Liam Watson Billie Joe Armstrong did vocal training when he did the American Idiot musical on Broadway. It helped him tremendously, you can hear the difference in his singing.
I know, right? I’ve been convinced that (due to the modern, texting age) people misspell words so often now that soon they’ll forget how to spell entirely and, eventually, it'll start seeping into elementally-level education of the English language. We all know that language evolves over time, but I believe that official word spelling changes are defiantly on the horizon. That's my prediction.
Kurt’s ancestors passed on the voice. Many Irish have sung for centuries and have beautifully unique voices passed on. We experience with Tim Buckley, Jeff Buckley, Sinead O Connor , Enya, etc. Most no vocal training. They are all other worldly. Kurt could do many things with his voice that he was just born with and sang from his soul. Rest In Peace beautiful Angel.
Damn Kurt Cobain is Irish? I had no clue. Irish are some of the songsmiths of humanity. It is no surprise that Patois from Jamaica and Irish accent speaking the occupier's language called English has similarities. One example is saying ting in lieu of thing but you can see more at the end of this comment. Big up the Irish people, Kurt Cobain and the Greater Jamaican Region: th-cam.com/video/gxOeWpvjKxQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheBigNarstieShow
A great singer. When he wasn’t screaming, he had the voice of a man 20 or 30 years older, who’d lived a life that that voice reflected, and old rock’n’ roller
Guys, as much as certain singers have natural raw talent, even the best eventually need vocal warm-ups. There's no doubt that if Kurt had kept singing the way he did (if he had lived), he would have wrecked it by 33. I myself used to avoid warm-ups and would try belting Nirvana songs and it resulted in vocal fold nodules. Once I started warm-ups, my voice would recover much faster from a belting session. So someone of Kurt's caliber would probably have benefitted from them.
When I was reading everything I could about Kurt as a youth I stumbled upon a quote saying that he was the first one to scream a melody. This quote changed my perspective on rock singing and thus my life. Summer of August 2002 in Portugal all I had was the Nirvana greatest hits and Matrix 2 soundstack on CD. Gave me chills then gives me chills and thrills now.
He was no Michael Jackson, Ronnie James Dio or Freddie Mercury. But those guys were no Kurt Cobain either. Kurt may not of been a flashy powerhouse vocalist to the likes of 80's rock, but he had a 4 octave range and fantastic relative pitch. It's not like he's out of key or anything, but he wasn't a practised and trained pop singer either but he didn't try to be! That's what people don't realise, objectively you can say what you want about him but anybody with a musical background can vouch that he was definitely a competent singer with loads of character and catchy hooks coming out his ears.
And music is all about expression, so there's that too. Kurt is more like a Bob Dylan, Robert Smith or Neil Young, an artist rather than a performer. Not to say you can't be both.
Cornell had a four octave vocal or more, I think you're exaggerating Kurt's range, still, his singing voice was decent, his screams were fuckin dynamite and his howling falsetto on mtv unplugged was incredible. ✌
You can see Dave that he loves to talk about Kurt and the time at Nirvana, but at the same time you can see that it also hurts somehow ... Love you Dave❤😪
I would really really really love listening Dave speaking about Nirvana life's episods lite this. Love you, Dave. And thanks for having been a bro to Kurt❤❤❤
Love his singing, but I'm pretty sure he'd have lost his growl by now. There's no exceptions when it comes to singing. You either practice and do it properly or you lose it after a while.
what that shows is you don't need professional training anyone can be a musician. With the right attiude you can learn and become something you want with enough practice and dedication. I know with quarentine for me I've dedicated it to becoming better on guitar.
There are people who talk shit about Kurt's singing voice, but you don't have to have a lot of technical ability in the classic sense if your singing style is memorably distinctive. Jimi Hendrix wasn't a "great" singer, but no one has ever complained about his voice either. What Kurt lacked in a set of pipes he made up for in spirit.
It takes a fair amount of discipline to keep up with those vocal exercises. And it really helps to know how to work those vocal muscles to avoid long term damage
Yup, and it's apparent he did not get any vocal training. Now, no doubt Cobain had a unique voice, but it was more than his voice- it was the attitude and the music that led him. If he would have been alive today, he probably would not be able to sing at all- because his voice would have been completely ruined. There's no shame in doing vocal exercises- there's no shame in wanting to keep good voice hygene, so you can sing well into your 50's and 60's, and sometimes more. Look at Layne Staley and Chris Cornell- they both had vocal coaches, which only enhanced their amazing natural abillities. *of course, it is also important to get the right training...there are many people out there, calling themselves voice coaches, and know nothing about the voice, or how to develop it.
@@thesopranosdynasty dafuq it has to do with how Cobain sang? And beside the point- there are many people who can sing very good naturally without vocal training (and many of them, if deciding to make a career out of it will train their voices daily to keep it in good shape- usually with a singing teacher that might guide them more accurately). Nirvana was my favourite band growing up, and I always loved Kurt’s voice and expression, but I was strictly talking from the technique place- It doesn’t matter how good your voice is, if you use it every day for singing and shouting for a couple of hours on stage, if you don’t use it correctly, you will put it at risk of injuries, and possibly permanent damage.
Same thing happened to Hetfield around the same exact time. Blew his voice out, saw a vocal coach, got the same tape, but Hetfield uses it. And still warms up to that tape.
Funny video....however, for young singers out there, I was losing my voice at band rehearsal and started vocal lessons from an opera singing coach. My voice got very strong and I learned how to sing powerfully without straining. But you do feel and sound like a dork when you are doing warmups against the tapes they are describing in this video. The vocal coaching DID help.
One of Kurt Cobain's biggest lies - and it's something I think Dave Grohl has taken from him - is this kinda "aw, shucks, I didn't ever really practice or take lessons.." I guarantee you Kurt Cobain practiced singing and playing the guitar a lot. Maybe he didn't have formal training, but from the time he was a teenager, he's playing in bands, writing songs, touring, recording. Dave Grohl and Kurt Cobain both really studied their craft. They both like to present it as, "I just sit down at my drum kit or pick-up my guitar, and this just how it sounds." You can tell from the way Kurt Cobain sings that he has a very good idea of what he's doing. Had he lived, he probably would have benefited from a little more technique. But you can't tell me Kurt Cobain didn't know anything about how to use his voice or play his guitar. Maybe he wasn't going to win a scholarship to Berklee the way he played and sang, but you can tell he worked a lot at what he did.
you’re totally right! it bugs me to no end when people say “eh, he was sloppy with his guitar playing & his screaming is not right, he was just lazy and didn’t care”. like yeah, he wasn’t the most technical player or singer but he for sure knew what he was doing and what suited him the best. Cobain was a lot better than he was letting on and actually took his time to study his craft.
@nadyavishnyakova8297 maybe he just didn't care to make artistic maturity a forefront to explain his creative process? Like, of course the car mechanic knows everything about your car, that doesn't mean he has to sit there and explain how he knows and what he does specifically to get the job done. He's there to fix your car. Your happy. Kurt's there to make songs, your happy. It's not that deep.
You mean Kurt didn't have vocal training...like that's a shocker. If he had, I'm guessing he would have sounded totally different and we would never would have had that awesome voice of his!
There are those of us who approach Voice differently. Don't throw out the "Mi Mi Mi MIiiiisss" and the others, because they actually do work....especially if you find the right VOICE/BODY teacher. Your Voice is your Instrument, and that instrument resides In Your BODY. And the Motor is Your Breath. Yeah, you might be a natural force, with a voice to surprise thousands.....but eventually, the road and the stress and the range are gonna collectively call for help. Know your body "tics", Get to know your challenges in body & voice, and you will know your best voice. Become your own best Teacher. I'm not saying it's me....it's YOU. YOU should become your best teacher. So now when you think I'm going to push me or my method, I simply say, "Alexander Technique". Find a very good MAVERICK teacher, rote training in any method is not good. Vocal training is great for any singer, you just have to find the right approach for YOU.
I used to torture my rock back with super broadway musical theater warm ups. They HATED those things, which always made me do them more. "Gina lo lah bridge i-tuh" scales being a particular loathsome one for them.
I mean he must have learnt some how, if not the traditional method than simply singing alone to the sings he liked until he started hitting the right notes (after learning that's a way to practice)
Dave Grohl to Kurt Cobain is like Chuck Norris was to Bruce Lee. Both absolute legends in their own right and both were very fortunate to have intimate time with those heroes. What a blessing those guys are. If I could meet 2 people (outside my family history) I would pick Kurt Cobain and Bruce Lee....maybe George Washington lol
On the other hand great singers like Robert Plant and Mick Jagger said if they could change anything they'd have learned some warm-up exercises. And even The Beatles said they learned a thing or two about vocal strain, etc. during their pre-fame stint in Germany.
James Hetfeild blew his voice out at the same time for the Metallica Black album and also went to a voice coach and get the same cassette. But took it seriously and did it for years
I'm a huge Nirvana fan And Kurt had a fucking insane voice. More so in the higher shouting/screaming sense. It's like he couldn't sing as high as say, Freddie, but he could shout as high and in it would be in key. Dave Grohl is pretty similar funnily enough. The only songs I felt Kurt couldn't sound as good at live was the Nevermind stuff. Probably from all the vocal fx Vig used in production. It just never sounded right live. But live performances of the other 2 main albums (Bleach and In Utero) Kurt seemed to replicate very well.
Thing is. He makes light of it, but Cobain blew his voice out during the In Utero tour as well which culminated in the band cancelling a bunch of shows and taking a break which led to 'the Rome incident' which in turn led to Cobains death
If I were the vocal coach in question, I would be briefly bummed, but then remember that Kurt PAID ME prior to throwing away my suggestions (and his money).
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Can you imagine Kurt doing his me me me me me me meeeeee's.
He did Do Re Mi
Don't Rape Me-He!!!!
James Hetfield does all those warm-ups. It does sound lame, but it will help your voice...take your pick, do embarrassing vocal exercises or blow out your voice.
@@nickcharles6530 It's not even that embarrassing. It's just singing a major chord up and down.
Dino No, they are singing major chord in root position...
My dear Dave looks emotional when he talks about Kurt. I love you Dave.
They were really good friends. Three of them. The best friends.
lol no friendship here, just business.
Michael Serrano that not make sanse
Towards the end of nirvana they werent friends
Your all dead ass wrong saying they weren't friends. Yeah the fame put wedges between them, but Dave saying Kurts handwritten letter to him calling them "brothers" showed they were just strained. Or Kurt apologizing to Dave after almost ODing in Rome. None of us were there, but there's more proof to them being brothers then them hating eachother.
I remember reading a story online in the late 90s by his sister who said that when they would go out to the lake he would start screaming and she asked him what he was doing and he said "stretching out my vocal chords" :) I wish I could find all of those storys again, the internet was a bit smaller back then and you could actually find his relatives and what they wrote about him online.
I read that also. That story was published in a book. Not sure if it was "come as you are" but it was certainly a book published just around/after his death.
I think that's from Michael Azzerad's "Come As You Are" or another biography but I definitely read that somewhere too.
“Stretching out my chords” hehe awesome :)
@@danejurus69 Yep, its in that book.
Morrison did the same. Instead of taking training vocal, he chose to "train" his vocal chords by screaming his lungs out. I mean, wtf. I guess that they would have lost their voices eventually, but, there is Dave Grohl, another big time screamer. I don't know.
Rest in Peace to a great vocalist
Joshua Stephens Amen
Shitty**
I don't really get why you came to a Kurt related video to comment that, i mean, you know you are a nobody right? The vast majority of people wont give a shit about your "shitty" opinion.
Jaime David okay? Doesn't mean I can't comment about it lol I don't care if no one cares about my opinion 😂
Jaime David his music was great but he couldnt sing for shit layne and cornell blow him out of the water
Love this clip. U can see a fond memory when he tells it.
Choking While Phucking He made it up ya fool.
Revolver okay thanks for the noble wisdom. You have something to back that up? Or u just going to prove to me you are a troll?
And these biographies I've read. There's no book or biography that i know of saying he *didn't* take vocal lessons at some short point. So that's not a reason. A sited source saying he didn't. Then your right. So you prove your point. Tho not sure what the name calling has to do with any of it. Grow up kid or you'll be swallowed by the ones who actually understand the world. Stop being a key board warrior.
that dude has a problem, lol, he looks for every comment like this just to say that, sad human being.
kurts voice was amazing.
Actually, if Kurt has lived, he 1000% would have needed to start doing vocal warm ups and voice maintenance or else he would have blown out his vocal cords and been done by the age of 35. Facts
Eddie Vedder doesn't sing like he used to in the 90s and I guarantee you this is why. Cobain 100% would have either done a nirvana album that bombed, toned it way back to the acoustic sound he was moving towards, or stopped making music until he could see a professional. I respect what Dave is saying in that it was unique enough that he didn't need a coach at the time, but there is zero sustainability in that.
Best evidence? Despite Nirvana's success, I'm positive that Dave Grohl sees a vocal coach for the foo fighters; hence why he's still banging it out in his 40s just fine
@I Used To Be An Octopus yeah
@@cavemanzach9475 Nothing Kurt touched bombed. He was gonna go acoustic anyway. Would have been epic
Most extreme vocalists nowadays have some training and do at least some warm ups. Check out Melissa Cross's stuff, it's a game changer.
Yeah well he did end up blowing out his vocal chords in the end...
I think what helped Cobain was that his voice was really unique, so he only had to have a moderate amount of vocal skill and his signature harsh and ever so slightly nasal sound that he had made up for his lack of training, a unique voice is better than a highly trained one.
This is so stupid, of course everyone on Earth has a unique voice😂🤦
@@curfimo9793 LOL! :D
Unless your voice doesn't last long because you're blowing it out. You could develop nodules and ruin and/or lose your voice like that.
I think you're right and I'd like to add that one thing made him so great was that his pitch was very perfect, for the most part live when he was at his best too. Whether it be quite and stripped down on Unplugged or yelling the end of Territorial Pissings, he was always pitch perfect imo with the undertone of that gravel.
The guy was a punk. Listen to Mexican Seafood. Kurt was just not bothered by what anyone thought about his voice. Also an extremely underrated guitarist
0:29 the way his voice shakes 😢
I don't think he was getting emotional, his voice just got shaky. That was not something to get emotional about and he was laughing afterwards. Who knows though.
@@danmeme7740 lol
You no agree or no disagree?
I think it was more of a quiver in anticipation of how funny the story's climax is. The thought of the irony that Kurt would be doing these "me me me"s to warm up.
I wish he'd just talk stories and stories of kurt.
Rick D He sold out. Sorry for the foo-f fans. But he did. I agree with Buzz from the Melvins, he suddenly didnt knew them anymore.
Kurt didnt like him at the end either (i dont think what courtney said was true, like, he was officialy kicked out of the band, but Kurt couldnt stand him anymore for some reason.
On the other hand, (and thats the only thing i have against Kurt) Kurt suddenly became a dick about the money issue. Out of the blue, after ALL those years, months before his death he went up to Novoselic and Grohl, and said they had only the right to gain 25% of the money, and he alone 75 because he wrote the lyrics.
And for SOME reason (though i cant prove it) this was that bitch talking in his ear...
Or maybe kurt turned suddenly into a dick, though i dont think so because otherwise he would have said this way before that.
SimplyLimbo
I can't argue against a single thing you typed there, it's 💯%, I totally agree with you 👍✌🤘
SimplyLimbo i dont agree with any of that nonsense of kurt not liking krist or dave at the end. Dave was nearly in tears accepting the award that year at mtv awards for nirvana, and just saying he wishes his friend was still here, you dont say that stuff when its come down that someone suddenly hates you. The money thing, very well could be true, courtney = yoko. Kurt just didnt have the passion anymore for the stage, and you can see a broken man in mtv live and loud show, (that show was 3 months before his death btw). Its all speculation. And now, its all history.
Rick D agree ? Its a fact ! Its not about agreeing or not, its a fact !
SimplyLimbo, Please provide evidence for your "facts".
I could never imagine kurt doing any form of vocal training, the guy sang from the heart, his music sounded good to him, it was joy that's why it was so easy for him
Listen to Kurt's vocals on Lounge Act.
Exactly
Territorial pissings and milk it his vocals are crazy
@@jreamwilson97 and Scentless Apprentice
Definitely sounds like something he would do.
Jared Richard No pal. It sounds like Dave Grohl made this up.
Revolver believe what you want
you say that is if you knew him personally
Captain Stabbin Dave was always envious of Kurt in the Nirvana days.
Captain Stabbin maybe I do 😉
i thought it was gonna be a pack of cigarettes
DT Hellland I Fucking love you
I don't get it..
Smoke a pack and come back
I was thinking more of a cart
@@giisellegaalvan1996 He's implying that cigarettes are what gave him his voice.
James Hetfield lost his voice whilst doing the black album and went to see a vocal coach who did the same kind of vocal exercises tape. It helped him. A singer has to take his/her voice seriously and fine tune it. Cobain was a great vocalist nonetheless.
Liam Watson well James hetfield sucks soo...
BassistAar Whatever makes you feel sexy.
BassistAar well someone clearly missed the point
The problem is, that a lot of these singers should've been classically trained from the start and then they could of carried on screaming for years to come with no loss.
Liam Watson Billie Joe Armstrong did vocal training when he did the American Idiot musical on Broadway. It helped him tremendously, you can hear the difference in his singing.
Boi boi boi boi boi boi
Boy. Not Boi. FFS
I know, right? I’ve been convinced that (due to the modern, texting age) people misspell words so often now that soon they’ll forget how to spell entirely and, eventually, it'll start seeping into elementally-level education of the English language. We all know that language evolves over time, but I believe that official word spelling changes are defiantly on the horizon. That's my prediction.
@@pacnick11 Dude chill out, its just a comment.
@@cockroach5717 No, it's not just a comment. It's a worldwide tragedy that finally needs to be brought to light.
@@pacnick11 Nice troll.
No recess.
Good human be happy You're in high school AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN!!!!
Won't you believe it? It's just my luck.
Kurt’s ancestors passed on the voice. Many Irish have sung for centuries and have beautifully unique voices passed on. We experience with Tim Buckley, Jeff Buckley, Sinead O Connor , Enya, etc. Most no vocal training. They are all other worldly. Kurt could do many things with his voice that he was just born with and sang from his soul. Rest In Peace beautiful Angel.
Damn Kurt Cobain is Irish? I had no clue. Irish are some of the songsmiths of humanity. It is no surprise that Patois from Jamaica and Irish accent speaking the occupier's language called English has similarities. One example is saying ting in lieu of thing but you can see more at the end of this comment. Big up the Irish people, Kurt Cobain and the Greater Jamaican Region:
th-cam.com/video/gxOeWpvjKxQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheBigNarstieShow
Punks have raw attitude so who needs technique when you've got that
A great singer. When he wasn’t screaming, he had the voice of a man 20 or 30 years older, who’d lived a life that that voice reflected, and old rock’n’ roller
Can you imagine if that tape still existed.... that'd be the holy grail of all obscure Kurt artifacts
im sure they got rid of it
Kurt's voice and singing was perfect. For me the best voice I've ever heard
Do
Re
Mi
......
Exactly what I was thinking! One of my favorites.
It's one of the last recorded songs too
Do Re Mi Mi Mi Mi Mi Mi Mi Mi
uuueeiii iiiiii
if i may
if i might
lay me down weeping
"One baby to another says I'm lucky to have met you"
No baby has ever said that.
I don't care what you think unless it is about me.
she was a punk, he did ballet, what more can I say?
Rup Tratin Drain you
Kid In Africa
Back at ya, bud.
Guys, as much as certain singers have natural raw talent, even the best eventually need vocal warm-ups. There's no doubt that if Kurt had kept singing the way he did (if he had lived), he would have wrecked it by 33. I myself used to avoid warm-ups and would try belting Nirvana songs and it resulted in vocal fold nodules. Once I started warm-ups, my voice would recover much faster from a belting session. So someone of Kurt's caliber would probably have benefitted from them.
When I was reading everything I could about Kurt as a youth I stumbled upon a quote saying that he was the first one to scream a melody. This quote changed my perspective on rock singing and thus my life. Summer of August 2002 in Portugal all I had was the Nirvana greatest hits and Matrix 2 soundstack on CD. Gave me chills then gives me chills and thrills now.
That's bollocks.
I think this kind of information is cool and all, but could interviewers quit reminding him of his dead friend every day?
impossible. Nirvana is the most important band of the past 30 years and they’re journalists
@@SonikJesus yeah, Nirvana is literally tits. Very few bands leave behind a legacy like they did
@@icecreampimpdeux and to do that with only 3 dudes...legendary
He was no Michael Jackson, Ronnie James Dio or Freddie Mercury. But those guys were no Kurt Cobain either. Kurt may not of been a flashy powerhouse vocalist to the likes of 80's rock, but he had a 4 octave range and fantastic relative pitch. It's not like he's out of key or anything, but he wasn't a practised and trained pop singer either but he didn't try to be! That's what people don't realise, objectively you can say what you want about him but anybody with a musical background can vouch that he was definitely a competent singer with loads of character and catchy hooks coming out his ears.
And music is all about expression, so there's that too. Kurt is more like a Bob Dylan, Robert Smith or Neil Young, an artist rather than a performer. Not to say you can't be both.
Cornell had a four octave vocal or more, I think you're exaggerating Kurt's range, still, his singing voice was decent, his screams were fuckin dynamite and his howling falsetto on mtv unplugged was incredible. ✌
Yup, I always saw Kurt as a more talented artist than a singer. And that still says alot!
No one has a 4 octave range unless you include M0/vocal fry and M3/flageolet, which of course, no one with ears does.
mrbouncelol
Axl Rose has a 5 octave range! ☺☺👎
You can see Dave that he loves to talk about Kurt and the time at Nirvana, but at the same time you can see that it also hurts somehow ...
Love you Dave❤😪
I would really really really love listening Dave speaking about Nirvana life's episods lite this. Love you, Dave. And thanks for having been a bro to Kurt❤❤❤
Love his singing, but I'm pretty sure he'd have lost his growl by now. There's no exceptions when it comes to singing. You either practice and do it properly or you lose it after a while.
what that shows is you don't need professional training anyone can be a musician. With the right attiude you can learn and become something you want with enough practice and dedication. I know with quarentine for me I've dedicated it to becoming better on guitar.
0:09 I died - this guy made my day
Kurt may not have had formal training but he was in church choir and had been singing to the Beatles since he was a kid.
Kurt Cobain was a huge Foo Fighters fan.
Chris Cornell, Layne Staley, Ann Wilson, and many, many others had voice lessons/coaches.
Dave is a great guy
Charles Jones I was drunk when I posted this. Honest to god
I like him too
There are people who talk shit about Kurt's singing voice, but you don't have to have a lot of technical ability in the classic sense if your singing style is memorably distinctive. Jimi Hendrix wasn't a "great" singer, but no one has ever complained about his voice either. What Kurt lacked in a set of pipes he made up for in spirit.
Luv Kurt ..luv Nirvanna...miss everything about them and him!!!
kurt is the king of grunge for a reason He has that idgaf rebellious punk attitude which is what makes him speciallll
It takes a fair amount of discipline to keep up with those vocal exercises. And it really helps to know how to work those vocal muscles to avoid long term damage
Thanks 🙏 for sharing .
I need that cassette tape!!!
I don't know -- Dave did that octave exercise pretty well...
Yup, and it's apparent he did not get any vocal training.
Now, no doubt Cobain had a unique voice, but it was more than his voice- it was the attitude and the music that led him.
If he would have been alive today, he probably would not be able to sing at all- because his voice would have been completely ruined.
There's no shame in doing vocal exercises- there's no shame in wanting to keep good voice hygene, so you can sing well into your 50's and 60's, and sometimes more.
Look at Layne Staley and Chris Cornell- they both had vocal coaches, which only enhanced their amazing natural abillities.
*of course, it is also important to get the right training...there are many people out there, calling themselves voice coaches, and know nothing about the voice, or how to develop it.
There's nothing better than raw vocals. Don't care
U think the millions of slaves that were sold around the world had vocal training whilst they sang working for the white man?
@@thesopranosdynasty dafuq it has to do with how Cobain sang?
And beside the point- there are many people who can sing very good naturally without vocal training (and many of them, if deciding to make a career out of it will train their voices daily to keep it in good shape- usually with a singing teacher that might guide them more accurately).
Nirvana was my favourite band growing up, and I always loved Kurt’s voice and expression, but I was strictly talking from the technique place- It doesn’t matter how good your voice is, if you use it every day for singing and shouting for a couple of hours on stage, if you don’t use it correctly, you will put it at risk of injuries, and possibly permanent damage.
Same thing happened to Hetfield around the same exact time. Blew his voice out, saw a vocal coach, got the same tape, but Hetfield uses it. And still warms up to that tape.
Cause Hetfield is a professional musician. Professionals don't laught at exercises, they use them to improve skills. Cobain was just a famous amateur
To be fair it IS goofy sounding. It’s embarrassing to do. But the payoff is great
That is the true positive memory of Kurt! We miss you Kurt! :D 💖
Crazy it's been as long as it's been!
The funny thing is that Dave Grohl probably does these types of vocal warm ups nowadays
I imagine his “me me me” sounding like his “heyyy waitttt” from Heart Shaped Box lmao. Meeee!Meeee!
Dave a good guy! Kurt is miss by all his fans thanks for the music mann!
Funny video....however, for young singers out there, I was losing my voice at band rehearsal and started vocal lessons from an opera singing coach. My voice got very strong and I learned how to sing powerfully without straining. But you do feel and sound like a dork when you are doing warmups against the tapes they are describing in this video. The vocal coaching DID help.
I need this cassette NOW
One of Kurt Cobain's biggest lies - and it's something I think Dave Grohl has taken from him - is this kinda "aw, shucks, I didn't ever really practice or take lessons.."
I guarantee you Kurt Cobain practiced singing and playing the guitar a lot. Maybe he didn't have formal training, but from the time he was a teenager, he's playing in bands, writing songs, touring, recording.
Dave Grohl and Kurt Cobain both really studied their craft. They both like to present it as, "I just sit down at my drum kit or pick-up my guitar, and this just how it sounds."
You can tell from the way Kurt Cobain sings that he has a very good idea of what he's doing. Had he lived, he probably would have benefited from a little more technique. But you can't tell me Kurt Cobain didn't know anything about how to use his voice or play his guitar. Maybe he wasn't going to win a scholarship to Berklee the way he played and sang, but you can tell he worked a lot at what he did.
you’re totally right! it bugs me to no end when people say “eh, he was sloppy with his guitar playing & his screaming is not right, he was just lazy and didn’t care”. like yeah, he wasn’t the most technical player or singer but he for sure knew what he was doing and what suited him the best. Cobain was a lot better than he was letting on and actually took his time to study his craft.
@nadyavishnyakova8297 maybe he just didn't care to make artistic maturity a forefront to explain his creative process? Like, of course the car mechanic knows everything about your car, that doesn't mean he has to sit there and explain how he knows and what he does specifically to get the job done. He's there to fix your car. Your happy. Kurt's there to make songs, your happy. It's not that deep.
I love these type of stories
3 Best Screams in Rock Music (no particular order) : Jim Morrison. Iggy Pop. Kurt Cobain.
NoCity Arts&Film John Lennon. Paul McCartney.
Prince
Neither Saint Nor Sinner Prince was great at it indeed.
@sabbracadabra you might have me with that hand, its a tight draw.
Chino moreno
It would've been hilarious if Kurt had done that me me me me me me meee with a raw grunge screaming voice
You mean Kurt didn't have vocal training...like that's a shocker. If he had, I'm guessing he would have sounded totally different and we would never would have had that awesome voice of his!
The tape eventually became a Foo Fighters album.
No couch in the world can get you to scream with that much passion and angry like Kurt does on Drain You (live)
Sure it can, if you stub your toe on it.
"It sounded like he was boiling nails in there"
-Dave Grohl on Kurt's scream
There are those of us who approach Voice differently. Don't throw out the "Mi Mi Mi MIiiiisss" and the others, because they actually do work....especially if you find the right VOICE/BODY teacher. Your Voice is your Instrument, and that instrument resides In Your BODY. And the Motor is Your Breath. Yeah, you might be a natural force, with a voice to surprise thousands.....but eventually, the road and the stress and the range are gonna collectively call for help. Know your body "tics", Get to know your challenges in body & voice, and you will know your best voice. Become your own best Teacher. I'm not saying it's me....it's YOU. YOU should become your best teacher. So now when you think I'm going to push me or my method, I simply say, "Alexander Technique". Find a very good MAVERICK teacher, rote training in any method is not good. Vocal training is great for any singer, you just have to find the right approach for YOU.
I used to torture my rock back with super broadway musical theater warm ups. They HATED those things, which always made me do them more. "Gina lo lah bridge i-tuh" scales being a particular loathsome one for them.
Kurt was in choir as a kid. Cmon....
I miss Kurt.
I mean he must have learnt some how, if not the traditional method than simply singing alone to the sings he liked until he started hitting the right notes (after learning that's a way to practice)
We need to find that cassette
Dave Grohl to Kurt Cobain is like Chuck Norris was to Bruce Lee. Both absolute legends in their own right and both were very fortunate to have intimate time with those heroes. What a blessing those guys are. If I could meet 2 people (outside my family history) I would pick Kurt Cobain and Bruce Lee....maybe George Washington lol
On the other hand great singers like Robert Plant and Mick Jagger said if they could change anything they'd have learned some warm-up exercises. And even The Beatles said they learned a thing or two about vocal strain, etc. during their pre-fame stint in Germany.
Every time I see Dave I instantly feel happy.
That's exactly how James Hetfield learned to sing/maintain his voice though! It definitely works.
0:28 That scared the shit out of me. I didn't expect him to look like that.
Miss you Kurt.
Gregory Porter looks like a Goomba from Mario.
What a life and memories he has.
Hey he looks like that drummer guy from Nirvana
old joke
It's amazing just what people think is funny and clever...smh
Kinda I guess
+gigisdad I know😂
I think he looks more like Louis Armstrong.
James Hetfeild blew his voice out at the same time for the Metallica Black album and also went to a voice coach and get the same cassette. But took it seriously and did it for years
Love you Dave! ❤️🥀
I'm a huge Nirvana fan
And Kurt had a fucking insane voice. More so in the higher shouting/screaming sense. It's like he couldn't sing as high as say, Freddie, but he could shout as high and in it would be in key. Dave Grohl is pretty similar funnily enough. The only songs I felt Kurt couldn't sound as good at live was the Nevermind stuff. Probably from all the vocal fx Vig used in production. It just never sounded right live. But live performances of the other 2 main albums (Bleach and In Utero) Kurt seemed to replicate very well.
WTF is the interviewer wearing? Why?
All these years later. Nirvana still holds up. 🎶
Thing is. He makes light of it, but Cobain blew his voice out during the In Utero tour as well which culminated in the band cancelling a bunch of shows and taking a break which led to 'the Rome incident' which in turn led to Cobains death
So fucking rock n roll man. Love it.
Miss him ... :(
That's why Kurt would have probably lost half of his vocal range by his early 30s, with all the singing, screaming and smoking.
theres a Peruvian guy called ramiro
he makes a really danm good impression of kurt
all i want is dave to meet him
That cassette woul d be gold today
That is so grunge. I'm in awe.
Kurt's voice was awesome
Dave: No it didn't really
Interviewer: It did yeah
Dave: No
I really wanna hear that tape. Too bad.
Could it be the same couch that helped James Hetfield during the "Black Album" session when he blew-up his voice singing "So What"?
Heart always trumps technique in music.
the length of the video says it all
James Hetfield and his cassette find this offensive
I would pay a million to just be with Dave while he told me storys of NIrvana and Foo Fighters
OMG can u imagine if we had a tape of Kurt saying: "Me,Me,Me,Me,Me,Meeeee!" 😆
If I were the vocal coach in question, I would be briefly bummed, but then remember that Kurt PAID ME prior to throwing away my suggestions (and his money).
Kurts vocals = the grunge era, rest in peace kurt
I've been starving em, teasing em, singing off key.