Woodturning - How To Reshape a Gouge to a Fingernail Grind
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- In this video I show my method of reshaping a gouge with a straight over grind, to on with a fingernail grind and swept back wings.
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From Neath. Thanks Mike. I am a novice to turning and sharpening tools, only turned them blue so far. Watched this and followed your process wow what a difference. Have 3/8 bowl gouge now that is a pleasure to use. Will do the same to my 1/2 inch bowl gouge. Thanks again.
Glad you found the video useful John.
Very useful Mike. I have the Sorby pro, but it shouldn't too difficult to adapt this method to a belt grinder.
One problem though, TH-cam now insists on recommending for me videos on how to file my fingernails and other ways to make them pretty, it's opened up a whole new world for me :-)
Thanks Mac ... you can never watch enough videos on keeping your nails up to scratch! ;)
For some reason it took watching your video for me to understand the whole process of shaping a spindle gouge in to a detail gouge. Thanks.
Happy to hear that you found the video useful.
Take care
Mike
Featured in the "AAWs Keep Turning Newsletter" August 2019.
You keep getting validation from the American Association of Woodturners-not surprising. Kudos!
All the best,
-- Joe
You and the AAW are too kind Joseph.
Thank you for letting me know, I am honoured.
Cheers
Mike
I destroyed a bowl gouge but after watching and following your tips and advice, I have successfully put my blunder right and now have a sharp bowl gouge again. Big thanks Mike 😊
Really pleased you hear that you found the video useful Roy. Cheers. Mike
Good explanation and demo of a problem that vexes many novice turners, some who have been turning for years.
Hi Mike, and thanks for stopping by, appreciate your comments too :)
Very good demonstration and very clearly explained Mike! This method provides a great reference point with starting from the upside down grind to aim the jig grind towards. Thanks for sharing!
Happy turning,
Kyler
Thank you Ky, I have used this method a long time now, and it always works well.
iI finally found a video that shows me what I have been searching for. Thank you Mike. Cheers from Canada. I moved here from Northern Ireland.
My absolute pleasure glad you found the video useful.
Thanks for the video. I have watched numerous sharpening videos as a new turner but not had great success until yesterday. Thanks again.
Glad you found it useful Ray, and thank you for watching.
Many thanks Mike. Very straightforward présentation and excellent technique. Cant wait to try it. Many thanks. Darragh
Glad you found the video useful and thanks for watching.
As usual Great tutorial and very well explained my friend. Thank you we all need reminders of how it's done professionally.Take care
Thank you Al ... who is this "professional" of which you speak ;)
Not me that is for sure my friend. I am only here to offset the purists LOL
Hello Mike. I have been watching your videos for the last 6 or so months, and i have loved watching seeing all the different things you have done with your beautiful lathe. I especially lived the video on how you clean your work shop, i had a great laugh with that one. keep up the videos and turning mate.
Jared
Hi Jared, and thank you for your very kind words, and support. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the informative video. I have been struggling to get the grind right. With this simple technique it should no longer be a problem. I must have ground 2” off my gouge trying to do this the hard way. Thank you again for clearing this up.
Very happy to hear that you found the video of use Dan. Thanks for watching.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike. So many videos out there but many have steps assumed or left out. Whatever little I didn't get😉 from your video I can work out between me and the grinder!
Glad you found the video useful Tom and thanks for watching. Cheers. Mike
Thanks Mike. I use the same outfit that you use, but I have never started the way you do. I almost always get the "humps" on the wings so I am going to give your way a go and see what happens.
Hope it works for you Alan. Thanks for watching.
Perfect! Thanks mike!! Excellent content and exactly what I was searching for
Glad you found the video useful Scott and thanks for watching.
Hi Mike, Just had to say, I reshaped my bowl gouge to fingernail profile and what a difference it makes. That standard grind is bloody awful! If i even thought about picking it up i'd get a catch, but with the fingernail grind it's like a whole other tool. I'm probably gonna change my spindle gouges too. thanks very much!
Hi James, glad to hear that it is working for you.
Cheers
Mike
Excellent video, Mike. Many new to the craft need to know how to do this. I’ve seen a number of botched attempts that are just ruined tools.
Thank you Graham, it does work very well ... even for me! ;)
Thanks Mike, very easy way to get to the starting point and well appreciated tip.
Glad you liked the video Mike, and thank you.
Well sharpened tool and works well. Good Luck Mike!
Thanks Aleksey.
Thanks MIke that makes it clear and logical to me. Will give it shot this weekend.
Glad you found it useful Paul. Let me know what you think of the method when you've tried it.
Nicely done Mike. Really enjoy your videos, very clear explanations, I'll be trying this today wish me luck 😂
Thanks Daniel and good luck.
Thanks Mike, just what I am trying to accomplish. I appreciate your knowledge. I'll give it a try.
Glad you found the video useful Robert and thanks for watching.
Very timely for me as I just set up the one-way system with the CBN wheels in my shop. Thanks for the tutorial Mike!
Hi Jimmie, glad you found it of some use, and thanks for stopping by.
Super video Mike. Good, sensible, straightforward instruction. I am looking at those CBN wheels and getting a strange feeling of desire coming over me... I think there's only one cure!
Best Wishes, Brendan.
Hi Brendan, and thank you. I love mine, but there is one thing you should know ... they didn't improve my turning at all, I just get catches with crisper edges!!! ;)
Cheers
Mike
HAHAHA
Good info Mike, I really must do this. Nice to hear Robbie mentioned, I hope he reappears onTH-cam, one day.
Thank you Mark, and I agree with you about Robbie, he is greatly missed by the TH-cam community.
Nice, Mike - so clear and detailed. Thanks for this. Cheers!
Thank you Stewart, I appreciate that coming from you.
Great tutorial, Mike! You make it look so easy. But then, you always do, my friend!
Take care,
…..Gord
Thank you Gord, you are too kind my friend.
Take care
Mike
Great refresher video at the least Mike. I've a couple of Ashley Iles spindle gouges on the way, so I suspect I will need to do this to those. Saved me a bit of searching to remind me of the easiest process.
Thanks Paul, please let me know how you get on.
Excellent video and you made a difficult sounding job an easy one
Thanks for sharing Mike, I have wondered how to change the grind and now I know
glad you found it useful John, and thanks for watching.
A good well explained, easy to follow, video.
Thanks
James
Thank you James, hope you and your good lady are keeping well.
Mike Waldt Not sure about good lol
Thanks
Hi Mike. Thanks for the reminder of "How to do it properly". 73 de MTG
Thanks for watching Mike.
Thanks for the video Mike! I've just started turning and I find your videos very helpful!
Glad you find some use in my videos Terry.
Excellent video Mike. I see you did not use a secondary angle or profile to lessen the the potential of a catch or burnishing of the wood. Do see any benefit of a secondary bevel?
Hi Mike
Great instructional video
Easy to follow as usual
Keep them coming
Work safe
Shaun
Thank you Shaun, much appreciated mate.
Thanks Mike very informative video for them starting and them of us that forgot,all the best
Lol ... thanks Barry, always appreciate you stopping by mate.
Amazing Mike, so easy to follow. Thanks again
Thanks Kyle, appreciate it.
Thank you, Mike, for a great refresher. May I just remind you that Bastille Day in France is on Saturday and I look forward to seeing you in the Legionnaire's full dress uniform. Our numbers are getting fewer by the year.
Vive la France!!!
You Alan. Apologies for the late reply. I was at the event on Saturday, but couldn't seem to find you ... and it wasn't for the lack of trying.
Take care
Mike
Great job Mike. Bring back Robbie he has some great Videos. All the best Al
Thanks Alan, and I'm with you on the Robbie revival :)
Great video 👍🏻
Thank you Sam.
Hi Mike, I guess that your Axminster grinder is the low speed model, and are you running 40mm CBN wheels on it, which if so I was under the impression that they wouldn’t fit. Great videos by the way.
Hi Steve, they did fit OK, but I have sold that system and now use the Sorby Pro Edge. Stay safe.
Mike do you ever put a relief/secondary bevel on the spindle gouge. Something like Cindy Drozda does
I do now Lorraine but didn't when this video was made. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Mike
Hi Mike
I'm a newbie and have a question or two. I hope you can help.
What is the advantage of this grind? Is it to avoid catches?
Do you do the same for both bowl gouges and spindle gouges.
Thanks for your help
Hi Jase.
the grind is one I prefer as it allows me to make more aggressive cuts if needed.
The wings are similar on both my bowl gouges abd spindle gouges ... but the angles are very different ...45° for the SG and 55° for the bowl gouge.
Thanks for watching
Cheers
Mike
Thank you for the sharpening demo. Question 1: How much tool do you have sticking out of the Vari-Grind and do you have same stick out on your bowl gouges. Question 2: The set up of the Vari-Grind angle would you explain the location and do you keep the same angle for your bowl gouges. Thanks
Hi Bryan.
1: I have about 2" of "stick out", and that remains the same for what ever tool I sharpen. It's not so much the measurement, it is the same amount of protrusion each time that is the key to consistency.
2: The set up of the Vari Grind holder again is personal preference, a bit of experimentation is needed to achieve the "sweep" you are looking for with your gouges.I have never moved mine since I had it and was happy with the result. i use the same set up for all my gouges, the only variable is the baket distance for the wheel, I made some wood spacers that allow me to locate the same distance for each type of gouge I sharpen.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Mike
Excellent demo mate ! Cheers Mike, Bram
thanks Bram, much appreciated mate.
❤Nice tips thank you we just mounted a 180grit ceramic grinding wheel on our 2800 rpm single fase bench grinder and feels that it rotate a bit to fast question: do you use some kind off speed control on your grinder ❓
No Sven ... but it is a slow speed grinder. Cheers. Mike
@@MikeWaldt We bought two Axmister 8”x1-1/4x40 wide CBN wheels and had to send one off them back to the dealer here 🇸🇪it was not balanced well and did not run true i really wonder why Axmister makes their wheels in Steel and not in Aluminum we have a Swedish 200x 50 mm“Reki”wheel on left side and a 40 mm Axmister Evolution on the right it takes around 15 min to get stopped 🛑😝
@@MikeWaldt As you know ❤We already have a bench grinder 2800 rpm with a 50mm Reki and a Axminster 40mm CBN wheel and find it running a bit to fast and thinking off a Axminster Professional AP200SRG 1450 rpm Grinder i want to know the C/C between the wheels the grider i have has 360mm with our own rest setup on the bench Thank You
Looks good, Mike. But Hopewood has quit accepting orders from the US and Canada (we’re Commonwealth, I thought). What’s a good alternative?
Thank you Mr. Rod, I would recommend Easy Wood Tools in the US.
I'll look forward to watching that this evening, it's a job I need to do.
Good tips 👍👍
Which notch on the Varigrind do you use for all your swept back sharpening I have the same system as you and find it works well especially when just resharpening . Excellent video very easy to follow well done.
Hi David, I always use the second notch up from the leg, seems to work fine for me :)
Thanks Chris.
Hope you enjoy it Mr. Murphy.
Mike it appears that you are reshaping a 3/8" spindle gouge. What is the jig setting, the projection length of the arm and are you using the tool projection suggested by Oneway
The projection is the Oneway suggested measurement, the jig setting will vary depending on the type of grind you require.
thanks
Thanks for the tip! Did I hear you correctly that you grind your bowl gouge and spindle gouge the same angles? I have trouble with my oneway system as they recommend a different setting and my spindle gouges have never come out great.
Hi Steven, I was referring to the leg angle on the jig ... not the bevel angle of the gouges. Sorry for the confusion.
Cheers
Mike
Do you prefer the vari grind 1 (original) or the vari grind 2
I only ever had the 2nd model, and it was very good.
Very good. I use the oneway system also. I do have one question however, do you hone your chisels after grinding? I suppose you really don't need to with the type of wheels you use. Thanks for the tips. I did learn something! You can teach an old dog new tricks!!
Hi Alan, and thank you. I actually have never honed my chisels, even when I used oxide wheels. I do however strop my skew chisels sometimes, just because I can ;)
Thank you, Mike. What is the grit of the wheel you used? Dan
Now I use 80 grit for reshaping and 180 grit to freshen the edge Dan. Cheers. Mike
Hi Mike. What ever happened to Robbie? I really enjoyed his videos also. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Dale, I really don't know about Robbie ... his presence is sorely missed.
Was wondering myself what happened to Robbie perhaps someone out their knows of him like you was very good at explaining technique and had a calming presence.
I've been having a rumage around and it seems like all his internet presence disappeared around 3 years ago. Hope he is ok.
Hi Mike, love all your videos I’m inspired, I wanna ast where you got the adjustable robo rest ? Neil
Thanks Neil, I got from Reed Gray aka RoboHippy. Google his name and it will give you his website address. Stay safe.
Enormously helpful Mike, thanks so much :)
Glad you enjoyed the video Matt, and thanks for watching.
Hi Mike, another great video and I enjoy every new one that comes my way being a subscriber. I'm fairly new to turning and have done all carbide until recently. I just bought bought some Thompson Tools traditional tools: 5/8" & 1/2" bowl gouges along with a 1/2" spindle gouge & a 3/8" detail spindle gouge. I bought the Wolverine & Verigrind like you have along with the Raptor set up jigs which go from 35, 40, 45, 50 & 60 degrees. Raptor said to use 2" and set the Verigrind leg at 23 degrees or about the second notch on the Verigrind. I see you have your Verigrind leg set at about the 4th notch (similar to Doug Thompson's recommendation). You mentioned in an answer to another question that you used 2 sticks to reset the "basket" length away from the wheel when you wanted to regrind your tools. Can I assume this distance sets the nose angle such as 60 degrees that you mentioned you like for your bowl gouges? Could you please measure those various sticks for length and let me know what they are for the various different nose angles you have set up. Also please advise where you have the Verigrind leg set as it was kind of hard to tell for sure from the video. Also, it seems like you achieve a longer swept back grind by a "deeper" roll over of the Verigrind and a more "traditional grind using less rollover ...correct? Would it be possible to regrind a tool or for that matter grind a totally unground tool by setting the Wolverine basket with your stick to the nose angle required. Then use the Verigrind until you get what ever profile desired vs grinding the nose & the top first? I suppose having the top ground ahead of time it gives you a reference of where to stop your Verigrind rolling motion...I think?
Please advise and Thanks for your help!! Myles
Hi Myles and thank you.
Not wanting to appear to be avoiding your question, but you have answered them with your assumptions.
Once I achieved what I was looking for on the bevels the leg has never been moved,
I have to add I no longer have this set up, as I have recently gone with the Sorby Pro Edge :)
Take care
Mike
Nice one Mike,works well on the Sorby Pro Edge aswell
Thanks Chris, that's handy to know, should I ever get asked that question.
Thanks for the share mike. Cheers mate.
Thank YOU for watching Stelios.
Thanks for sharing mate, nicely demonstrated and explained.👍🍺
Thanks Dave, and thanks for stopping by mate.
Great video, Mike. Ive just got some of the Hope double ended gouges and the finger nail end needs sharpening. Are. there any specific measurements I need to consider when using the vari-grind method as I noticed that you only had a short amount of the gouge through the vari-grind and the stop bar was already set to a specific distance. Am new to wood turning so I apologise if my question appears a stupid question. Keep up the great work though. Love your videos and work.
Hi Duncan ... there is no such thing as a stupid question in my view :)
I use the recommended 2" (25mm) for the blade protrusion, this gives me consistent results every time. Also I use the same angle on the vari grind jig for all my gouges for the same reason. Once you are happy with what you achieve, keep everything the same for all gouges, that's a personal opinion of course. Then I make wooden stops for the basket arm, which gives me my preferred bevel angle on each tool.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks for the clarification, Mike.
Very informative as always Mike. thanks for this :-)
Thank you Stephen.
Thanks! I was looking for this!
Is it possible or practical to do this without a sharpenting jig?
If you have the ability to free hand sharpen (which I don't) I see no reason why it wouldn't work just as well.
Mike Waldt that seems to be the case. I have tried nad sharpending and it's sketchy at best. I will research a jig.
Thanks Mike. Very helpful. Is there a particular angle you aim for from the top of the flute down to the nose? My prior point of reference is Stuart batty’ 40/40/40 grind where that angle from the top of the flute to the nose is also 40 degrees. Thanks. Russell
Hi Russell, I have always set the bevel angle I want and place the gouge in the jig and "sweep". To be honest I have no idea what the wing angle is, I have never thought about it :)
Thanks Mike. Russell
Good info video Mike thanks for showing
Thank you Nick.
Such a useful video Mike! Thanks so much!
Glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching.
At the beginning of the video I thought you were going to try "driving" your lathe again. Then I was relieved to see your hands move. :-)
LOL ... pleased to hear that you are relieved! ;)
Hi Mike could I ask you a few questions in your sharpening system!. I've seen you have the pro edge and the CBN wheels. I'm new to wood turning and looking at a sharpening system and my head keeps getting turned by one system or other. Any enlightenment would be very much appreciated. Thank you
It is a very personal choice. Both systems are very good, I have just decided that I prefer the CBN set up.
Thanks Mike. I liked the idea of longevity of the CBN when and the wolf system looks user friendly. The only thing I have a concern with is that there doesn't seem a way to set the wolf system up to a set angle eg 45 degrees or 55 degrees. You always need to use a gouge and a sharpie of something pre existing of that angle, if that makes sense
Any way thanks again great review
mike do you use or prefer a 35 degree angle on both the bowl gouge and spindle gouge
Hi Mike thanks for that I also wondered how to get that profile. What make grinder do you use it looks ok for cbn wheels
Hi Ian, I'm happy to hear that you found the video useful. The grinder is the 1HP Axminster Trade model.
Great video Mike thats how I do mine Doug Thompson has a vid on his website showing the same way, good work mate
Thanks Dave ... if you do it the same way ... it must be right! ;)
I love your videos. Extremely informational. Do you have the same grind and angle on both your bowl and spindle gouges?
Thanks Adam, I use the same setting on the fingernail attachment, but the bevel angles are different. 35° for the spindle gouge, and about 60° for the bowl gouges.
Well explained Mike, many thanks.
Regards
Geof
thanks Geof, very much appreciated.
Well explained Mike . Cheers take care .
Thanks Glen.
Great video and its a technique Il use but as I understand you dont quench HSS - which is what most modern tools are made of as it damages the steel. Carbon steel is different from memory.
Thanks for watching and your input.
thank you mike great channel and very good info thank you
Thank you Sir!
Very interesting and informative, mate 👍
Cheers.
Thank you Bill, much appreciated.
Love your videos, thanks for the information download!
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words.
Thank you. That was awesome!
Pleasure Tim, and thanks for watching.
I was told that you do not need to cool HSS as it might make them brittle. What is the correct procedure re cooling?
Is there a definite ruling?
You may be right, but I have always done it when reshaping. I have to say in the early days of my turning journey, I did manage to "blue" two HSS gouges .. but they didn't perform an worse after :)
Thank you for sharing great tips 👍🏼
Thank you for watching Tomas.
Thanks Mike
I have only been woodturning for a short time & find your video's extremely helpful, keep up the good work Mike many thanks
Thank you Graham and enjoy your turning journey.
Cheers
Mike
Muy bien explicado como siempre ..gracias
Thanks for watching Andres.
Mike is that the Axminster bench grinder your using? It’s very quiet and smooth running.
Hi Derek, yes it is, and I am very pleased with how it performs.
Great video......can I ask what wheels you use and where you got them from?
Thanks Matthew, the wheels are 200mm x 40mm CBNs from the Toolpost
www.toolpost.co.uk/pages/Grinding_Systems/O_Donnell/Grinding_Wheels/grinding_wheels.html
Hope this helps
Cheers
Mike
Sorry lots of questions and if I am going to invest would like to understand from an expert. Would you go for a standard and fine? Rim and face or just rim?
Also I notice you use the Axminster grinder, they do not appear to have the 18mm bushings?
@@matthewfunnell139 Hi Matthew, I am not "dodging" the question, but I would strongly advice speaking to Peter Helmsley (The Boss) at the Toolpost. He is very easy to talk to, and will give you unbiased recommendations ... that's what I did all those years ago :)
Take care
Mike
No problem at all, I have emailed them. Thank hou
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 good clear explanation Mike 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hi Alan, and thank you.
Can you regrind a roughing gouge to a bowl gouge with a fingernail grind with this method?
I've never actually done that Bill, but I don't see why not.
Cheers
Miller
Thanks for the info!
My pleasure Carol, and thank you for watching.
Great job
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Jerry.
I am confused...you said you set the distance from the grinder..with what or what distance..explain..with a rapture?
Hi Terry, I say the correct distance from the wheel to replicate the angle of the gouge I already have ground to that angle. Merely offer the correctly ground gouge to the wheel and set the basket distance, then grind the "new" gouge to the same shape and angle.
Thanks for the question and watching.
Cheers
Mike
Good tutorial Mike! I use the varigrind also and even as an amateur, I have produced some impressive (to me anyway) edges that cut really well! WhY lathe do you have there? That's a beast of a machine!
Thanks Jeff. The lathe is the Stratos FU230.
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