Those Corvette C4s were junk. They had 5.7L V8s but were restricted so much as a result of emissions standards in the US. They also had this "crossfire injection" system which was trash. You could easily make 330 horse out of the same platform.
The Alpina B7 S were the fastest cars in 1979 1980, topspeed was 270 km/h when the M1 did 262 km/h and the Porsche 933 turbo did 259 km/h and the acceleration was also similar to 933 turbo the Porsche did about 5,8 sec to 62 miles , the Alpina did 5,7 sec to 62 miles.
you have to see that these 300 SAE hp were measured after the old methods with water cooling from external and with a Kick-starter, so that on a measuring instrument there might be 245hp left. Anyway to get close to such an Alpina you would need at least the 390hp versions from 1969 or a Big Block Corvette. Because the 330hp net match to about 410 hp measured in the way described above.
+Éliphas Lévi If you live in Munich it`s no wonder you never see a E24 M6,they were never sold in Europe. Here they are called M635 csi. The US spec E24 M6 was altso down 30 bhp (256 bhp) on the M635csi`s 286 bhp
Éliphas Lévi They have two different engines,the US M6 had whats called the S38 engine with a catalyzer,the euro spec M635 had the M88 engine without. The euro spec M635 is altso almost a second quicker to 62 mph. And then theres the 5 mph bumpers and other slight differences....
Who says '80s are not cool? In my opinion the 6-series of the '80s is the best looking BMW, hands down. As well as the 7-series from the same area. But the coupe has an edge in the looks department. Today's BMW styling is an insult.
I used to have numerous BMW'S from the '80s. Two of them were e24's, a '85 Red 635csi and a '87 Black L6. Loved the L6. The e28 535i was a great car too! I also agree on the new styling......the '80s had the best classic designs BMW had.
I agree that the 6 is a great looking car but the e28 5-series has much better proportions in my eyes, and is the best looking, to me, from that era. I just can't get over how awkward the e24 looks from the B-pilar back, with its huge quarter windows and downturned trunk, it really ruins the overall look. Shame, considering how amazing the long hood and aggressive shark nose front end looks. Don't even get me started on the 7-series, the designers got that one all wrong.
aliGyo Not in the classic era that the film talks of. Go compare a C2 or B3 2.7 Alpina E30 with an M3 of the same year they were far superior. Still a bargain too at half the price. Not sure for how much longer though :)
I owned a B10 535 Alpina while stationed in Germany in the 1990s. That was a fun car to own over there. It was forest green and was such a beast to drive. I use to cruise down the autobahn and B roads as fast as that car would go for hours. I bought it for 5K sold it for 8K to an officer. I still kick myself for not keeping it somehow.
I'm totally feeling this comment my friend. Several years ago, I sold my 1995 750Il. First generation E38 V12 due to an engine issue that would be totally solvable with today's resources. I truly miss that car.
That's a BMW! Not like the crap you see today....this video shows the 'real' stuff.....back in the 70's, I still remember as a kid this is the shape you spotted from afar as that of a BMW....and the engine sound too!
Joswick Gilmer I got my e28 for $500 so it is definitely rather inexpensive to own. It just needs a little bit of love, which is fine if you know how to work on them :)
I always love when I see older Alpinas since not a lot of people see them as anything other than a BMW, but they're so elegant and beautifully designed and modified
The owner of BMW shop where I worked in the late 90s had a B6 2.8, based on the E-30. It was an absolutely fantastic car to drive. I’ve been a BMW tech for 22 years now and it is still my hands down favorite, and I’ve driven virtually every M car ever built. I had a 1979 Euro spec 635csi with the sport gearbox, while it was no Alpina, it was still an awesome car in it’s own right. I miss the connected feeling of the older BMWs.
I'm an e46 guy...i really like the concept of the alpina it's this lucrative and rare species almost like how saleen makes those few mustang. When you see one it turns your head.
You should check out ALPINA's answer to the M3 e30! They built the B6 3.5, that car was/is much better and faster than the M3!And they also had the B6 s,which was the only ever M car that ALPINA used as a base car. Same 3.5 l straight 6 in it, I believe there where only 62 ever made!
Thing is it's not really a BMW. It's an Alpina. I have a Euro E24 with Alpina rims, which are great. I've never cared for the striped livery, I just think it's ugly.
I really liked this video. Well done ! These 6 E24 series ALPINAs are one of the rarest and most desirable ALPINAs. 👌 I feel very humble with my 'modern' B3 3.0 E36 cabrio ☺
Yes you are right, they are I believe part owner of some vineyards in Hungary, but the majority of wine they sell comes from other vineyards. They actually make as much money with wines as they make with cars. Burkhard Bovensiepen ,the owner of ALPINA made another hobby of him into a business. if you look at pictures taken from above the factory, the building on the left is the "wine cellar"! They are very well known to sell excellent wines from all over the world. Not cheap but very very good. The best cars in the world, combined with the best wines!Savoir vivre:-)!
Alpina is a brand. It says Alpina on the registration,not BMW Alpina like for example Mercedes AMG. Alpina gets a bare shell from BMW and build the car as an Alpina. And my god they are fu**ing awesome! The E24 especially,damn what a beautiful design,be it a BMW or Alpina
Alpina used to get bare shells from BMW. This isn't the case anymore. Alpinas are now built on BMW's production line, with Alpina parts mounted by BMW (Alpina supplies the parts). Then the almost finished cars are sent to Alpina where they are finished. Concerning registration in North America it says only "BMW" because Alpina is not recognised as a manufacturer there. The North American cars keep their BMW VIN.
+EVILSPAWN1003 not true. all Alpina cars keep their original BMW VIN number and have a second Alpina VIN number added.Just by having a BMW VIN proves they are just tuned/modified/improved upon by Alpina.
Verliebt "Since 1983 Alpina has been recognized by the German Federal Ministry of Transport as an automobile manufacturer, thus Alpina-built cars are branded and registered as Alpina instead of BMW, although an Alpina can be bought and serviced at local BMW dealerships, and covered if there is a warranty issue."
EVILSPAWN1003 that's not true either. they're registered as BMW Alpina, not just Alpina. You can service them at BMW dealers because they share a great deal of parts with regular BMWs. Alpina modifies the engine and interior, plus some cosmetic changes on the outside, other than that, the cars are identical to any other BMW.
Verliebt Yes it fucking is you plonker! No one is disputing that it`s "identical" to other BMW`s,they come off the same assembly line for fuck sake! It`s that the Alpina ones are registered as Alpinas,not BMW`s. The STATE OF GERMANY recognise Alpina as a manufacturer,not a tuner. It`s not like AMG which is "Mercedes AMG",a Alpina is an Alpina B7,not a BMW Alpina B7.
I've loved Alpina's since I discovered them age 10 in 1981, when I was taken to the annual BMW car club by my dad at BMW GB in Bracknell in the UK. I just love Alpina's philosophy of make it faster, make it nicer, but make it also so usable and not track focused like M cars. M cars, the only ones I truly desire are the M635csi and the E34 M5 in 3.8 guise. Alpina's, I just love them all and would love to have an E24 Alpina, but it's probably never going to happen, but, a B3s E46, is a possibility and one I want so badly.
Use to own an 1985 Alpina C2 2.5, was a great feeling driving it when everything was in sync. Would love to ownan E30 B6S, which, in my eyes in the perfect Alpina.
The engine sound. I will miss the pure engine sound in the future when all the cars would be electric. I think that even if it's mandatory to have all electric cars in the future, we should preserve the "old" cars. Because they aren't simple "means of transport". They are part of humanity's history...
Does anybody know what is the soundtrack? :( Plz its beautiful. And great video, its showing how much we love cars, because its not just a piece of metal and engine on wheels...
Hey, outstanding video!!! I'm already very much into the hobby of these vintage BMW's, but after seeing this vid I'm even more into it! Holy smokes what a nice collection you have!!!!!
These classic Alpinas are amazing. Today, the Bovensiepen's have grown desperately fat and lazy on the automotive front and produce cars that are less focussed than the stuff from M-Division. There isn't a single manual gearbox in the current Alpina lineup for a start. Frankly, they should sell the Alpina brand to someone with less wine and ink in their veins and a bit more petrol.
You don't seem to get what Alpina is all about. Alpina has always had more emphasis on luxury, higher torque and overall comfortablity then the M division(which is all about track times and handling)
colin5577 It seems thats BMW doesn't allow them to make outstanding cars anymore like the B7S, B10 BT, B12 or B8 4.6. Currently all Alpinas are slower than M models, that's not a coincidence. I wonder how Alpina managed to get the right to produce the B5 and B6 Edition 50 (with more hp than M models). This is not only my opinion. Something which is my opinion : why Alpina withdrew from GT3 racing the year BMW entered the competition ? Alpina was successful and had been participing in GT3 racing for only 4 years which is clearly not a lot. This is also strange.
spekhugger Well, I get what Alpina is about now. It just doesn't tally with how they got started or with the ethos that motivated the factory when they made the cars that built their brand. Back in the day, had Alpina been let loose on a Z8, they'd have turned up the wick on it and made it a bit more focused. The philosophy that takes something like a Z8 and sticks a relatively low revving V8 into it and adds an automatic gearbox suggests more than a bit of middle-aged spread about the brand. These days, Alpina make, for the most part, a charming variety of slightly better finished BMW diesels. Christ.
Theres 2 in Albania just to inform you...i guess is fun to drive you feel more unique on classics, as for power i guess not really, my cls amg 570 bhp, but i like more my e30 convertible 325i, its just classy, my next one should be bmw 2002 turbo but its very hard to find them now days...by the way you have some great cars there
These take me back, spent time as an technician in a BMW dealer in 87/88 when these cars were new.... they were special cars back then, still are. That B7s tho 😯😯
Neat cars from a great time to own a BMW product - I used to pull 2002 motors in my garage -- tear them completely down and rebuilt them in two weeks -- everything was simple -- no magic and computers. The B7 Alpina is nice but it certainly won't take anything on the road these days (as stated in the video) -- my Grand Cherokee SRT would eat it.
Alpina's are absolutely gorgeous! - They have more torque than M cars. More time is spent on the luxury and quality than just making a sports car. End result is you have a sports car with high quality luxury and something which s not common. You will turn heads for sure when you're on the road in a Alpina than a standard M car!
"Auto Motor & Sport", a german car magazine had a test and gathered some B7s and B7 coupes many years ago. (E28 and E24) All turbo-models, and most of them had outputs over 400bhp... :D Up northwest a E28 with four men onboard owned a guy on a Honda CBR900RR; On the straights! 290km/h... :D This was in the mid 90's. Those were the days. We were young and a bit mad, and had loads of fun! ;)
I'm Sick FREAKIN' AWESOME Rides... I Have A Restored '73 2002 (Red) & "HAD" A '85 Euro Spec 635csi That Was Crunched :( And I Tell Ya' I Haven't Been The Same Since. I Want To Get My Hands / My Butt Into A "Euro M6" If It Kills Me (No Pun Intended :-)
I had a new 1972 2002 for 200k miles. (1) 2002 had the best driver vision, like being in a glass dome. (2) They were made for cornering (3) You could work on them yourself and there was a great aftermarket network to soup up performance.
I know of one other E24 B10 in the states. Came out of Wyoming and was sold on BaT a few years back. Pierburg mechanical fuel injection. Nightmare. A late B10 with motronic is where it's at.
I don't have anywhere near the collection you do, but by accident I happen to pick up a dream come true. I contacted an east coast collector, while looking for parts and he told me to do everything I could to restore my e30 back to factory conditions,...or to call him and he would buy it so that it can be restored. I have a white 325i convertible, with an automatic and cardinal red interior. The collector I spoke with said the color combination was a lot more popular in Europe and that blackstock at American dealerships are the whole reason that color combination is here. BMW never sent one of these directly to the states from the factory. He also said that there were only 3 thousand automatic convertibles sold in 1989. According to him, because she also has the cardinal red interior, WITH THE FACTORY RED CARPET. Then she's one of a 120. Can you confirm this?
The secret to Alpina was the chassis and suspension tuning! My ex-girlfriend had a 323 turbo Alpina and it came across to the US via gray market and was equipped with Scheel racing seats, bilstein shocks, camber kits, extra large sway bars and was lowered for track use. This thing blew away M cars at the road race tracks ...which were mainly focused on engine tuning. BMW made a big mistake when the only bought Motorsport and not Alpina. I don't believe that BMW ever brought over 323 turbos in the 1st generation 3 series. The power plant was from the 633 turbo euro car. People at the race track had never seen a Bimmer handle like that Alpina! Beautiful car and a pleasure to drive. I don't believe that it had dog cut gears in it... like this owner mentioned.
i had BMW 528i 1986 i both that car after guy get in accident there was no nose parts none.i tow this car 180 miles to my town and friend of mine (from 4th grade,)teach me how to rebuild that car.he say if u don't wanna spend money (which i have none at that time) learn how to fix.so spend 6 month after work, repaint half of the car and get occupation,i learn how to paint fix cars. start my own business buy cars fix the repaint them and sell for profit it was best time of my life.long story short i have huge hangar which was my UNCLE at peace god bless his soul,and enlightenment was incredible its like show room and car was look amazing and newer forget the images of that car.ITS JUST slipped OF MY HANDS.
I have (2) Solex side drafts with the cast aluminum Alpina "silencer" ., from a 1977 3 series Alpina . Plus the steering wheel from the same car . Willing to sell them both . I wrecked the car in Germany back in the late 80s, while in the AirForce . That car was a blast , had a huge rear end ratio . The acceleration was amazing.
I used to own an Alpina BMW until a couple of years ago... a C2 2.7 E30 - great car. Huge difference between it an a regular E30 in everything from power to handling. Unfortunately I had to let it go to a better home, since I couldn't afford to maintain it anymore... Parts for alpina cars are very rare and extremely expensive... something as simple as a rear spring can be a huge pain in the ass to source. I do miss it tough...
No, turbocharge the existing engine instead. Things like the manifold, intake etc can be custom made or maybe sourced from some wrecked Alpina car. BMW straight sixes are sturdy. But please, don't molest a 635csi, they are kinda rare.
William Gson yeah I know they are rare. I was just curious. It be easy to turbo them myself but I wanted a OEM turbo engine just so I can do a project on other beamers
My dad had a friend with a wrecked Alpina e21. I remember as a kid playing in the car, pretending to be racing or robbing a bank. I drive an e46 m3 now and have always owned a BMW. Life goal is ALPINA.
my dad owned a bmw 2002 and a datsun 510 and I make sure to give him shit everyday for getting rid of them and having children instead
best comment ever, hehehehehehe
One of the things I love about these videos is it's just the owner. No "experts", no dramatic voice overs or cynical journalists. Just the owner
Lavaman3682 I think it also needs more dramatic, loud dubstep music and sound effects that distract you from the car.
Stephen Stone spot on comment. What is with that?
@@stocksxbondage All the ruined videos with that awful music.
Funny how he says that a lot of people don't know what an Alpina is. Drive one of those in western Europe and any car enthousiast will start drooling!
Not a many people in the states*
@DC Williams we aren't though
Exactly
There is an unloved Hartge E30 on the streets of L.A. that I have tried to buy from the owner with no success.
@@davidparker9676 I have a e30 alpina in Los Angeles are there others ❤️
333hp in 1983 in an Era where a "sportscar" had only 150-200hp. As I recall my dad's 1984 corvette had 205hp.
Those Corvette C4s were junk. They had 5.7L V8s but were restricted so much as a result of emissions standards in the US. They also had this "crossfire injection" system which was trash. You could easily make 330 horse out of the same platform.
The base model C3 (1968, predecessor to C4) made 300 horse
The Alpina B7 S were the fastest cars in 1979 1980, topspeed was 270 km/h when the M1 did 262 km/h and the Porsche 933 turbo did 259 km/h and the acceleration was also similar to 933 turbo the Porsche did about 5,8 sec to 62 miles , the Alpina did 5,7 sec to 62 miles.
you have to see that these 300 SAE hp were measured after the old methods with water cooling from external and with a Kick-starter, so that on a measuring instrument there might be 245hp left. Anyway to get close to such an Alpina you would need at least the 390hp versions from 1969 or a Big Block Corvette. Because the 330hp net match to about 410 hp measured in the way described above.
Chad Singleton European engineering was always years ahead of America from the start
god dammit those six series from the '80s were just amazing
*****
woow so jealous!! i live in munich (the home of BMW) and i hardly ever see E24's and NEVER see the E24 M6
Éliphas Lévi I doubt you will ever find an E24 M6 in Europe :) it's highly unlikely, as in Europe it was the M635 CSi
+Éliphas Lévi If you live in Munich it`s no wonder you never see a E24 M6,they were never sold in Europe. Here they are called M635 csi. The US spec E24 M6 was altso down 30 bhp (256 bhp) on the M635csi`s 286 bhp
EVILSPAWN1003
i always thought M6 was just another way of calling the M635 CSi
Éliphas Lévi They have two different engines,the US M6 had whats called the S38 engine with a catalyzer,the euro spec M635 had the M88 engine without. The euro spec M635 is altso almost a second quicker to 62 mph. And then theres the 5 mph bumpers and other slight differences....
That guy is the secret BMW collecter
Exactly!!!
His head shape gave the identity away lol
Who says '80s are not cool? In my opinion the 6-series of the '80s is the best looking BMW, hands down. As well as the 7-series from the same area. But the coupe has an edge in the looks department. Today's BMW styling is an insult.
Couldn't agree more.
E23 + S38 = dream come true.
I used to have numerous BMW'S from the '80s. Two of them were e24's, a '85 Red 635csi and a '87 Black L6. Loved the L6. The e28 535i was a great car too! I also agree on the new styling......the '80s had the best classic designs BMW had.
At least, the current m6 grand coupe is so hot
I agree that the 6 is a great looking car but the e28 5-series has much better proportions in my eyes, and is the best looking, to me, from that era. I just can't get over how awkward the e24 looks from the B-pilar back, with its huge quarter windows and downturned trunk, it really ruins the overall look. Shame, considering how amazing the long hood and aggressive shark nose front end looks.
Don't even get me started on the 7-series, the designers got that one all wrong.
Nothing, nothing, beats an old BMW.
Yes, an old Mercedes-Benz! lol
Nothing, nothing, nothing beats ALPINA!!!
Rc Shott
an old brabus does :P
Rc Shott Yes, ///M does.
aliGyo
Not in the classic era that the film talks of. Go compare a C2 or B3 2.7 Alpina E30 with an M3 of the same year they were far superior. Still a bargain too at half the price. Not sure for how much longer though :)
fantastic cars, i love ALPINA cars so much, greetings from Germany
I owned a B10 535 Alpina while stationed in Germany in the 1990s. That was a fun car to own over there. It was forest green and was such a beast to drive. I use to cruise down the autobahn and B roads as fast as that car would go for hours. I bought it for 5K sold it for 8K to an officer. I still kick myself for not keeping it somehow.
Noah was your a 3.5NA or Biturbo?
I have a 87 635 acres schnitzer l6 it will outcorner a targa
I'm totally feeling this comment my friend. Several years ago, I sold my 1995 750Il. First generation E38 V12 due to an engine issue that would be totally solvable with today's resources. I truly miss that car.
That's a BMW! Not like the crap you see today....this video shows the 'real' stuff.....back in the 70's, I still remember as a kid this is the shape you spotted from afar as that of a BMW....and the engine sound too!
Actually not a BMW, has absolutely nothing to do with a BMW. BMW builds the shell, that is it.
When I'll earn more money, I'd like to own a 80s BMW next to my SAAB
+Joswick Gilmer my words =D
I read that you'd like to own 80 BMWs. That'd be cool too
Joswick Gilmer I got my e28 for $500 so it is definitely rather inexpensive to own. It just needs a little bit of love, which is fine if you know how to work on them :)
Wow the engine bay is hella clean!
Picking up my brand new Alpina B3 tomorrow. The vintage ones are definitely more precious. Respect for this guys collection!
An E46 B3s is defintely on my wish list..
I always love when I see older Alpinas since not a lot of people see them as anything other than a BMW, but they're so elegant and beautifully designed and modified
The owner of BMW shop where I worked in the late 90s had a B6 2.8, based on the E-30. It was an absolutely fantastic car to drive. I’ve been a BMW tech for 22 years now and it is still my hands down favorite, and I’ve driven virtually every M car ever built. I had a 1979 Euro spec 635csi with the sport gearbox, while it was no Alpina, it was still an awesome car in it’s own right. I miss the connected feeling of the older BMWs.
Proud owner of an E24 ;)
You have taste and ethos my friend. Take good care of you and your beautiful cars...
A timeless design that always brings a smile to my face. Thank you for sharing.
We own a 1970s 3.3L in Australia. Very rare.
Seriously, a dog leg transmission? That's a sweet touch.
Rolling works of art! Love old bmw's dream is to have an old e34 alpina b10 bi-turbo with the narrow kidney's (before 93), in Alpinablau.
Alpina's are so cool, I wish they would import the 3 series variants, and not just the big boat that the B7 is.
There are 3 seres alpinas in USA
You just gotta find them :)
William Seroyer You can get the B6 Gran Coupé, but that's not exactly small either.
I'am talking about OldSchool ALPINA's ! :)
I'm an e46 guy...i really like the concept of the alpina it's this lucrative and rare species almost like how saleen makes those few mustang. When you see one it turns your head.
best looking bmw on the roads :) amazing condition!
Wow......alpina is the perfect car ever, the size, machine, the body compact and all in there is perfect, I have no words, Amazing bro...
"We're here for a resource, any way we can help people in the hobby would be great." ❤️👍
I like how he said that too
I absolutely love your videos, even more when I saw this video of my favorite cars. :)
damn, took me 4 pairs of pants to get through this video....
I thought that there can't be better BMW than E30 M3 but man that B10. I just realized how little i know still...
You should check out the BMW South African / BMW ALpina E30 333i :)
Zah Kam Thanks :)
You should check out ALPINA's answer to the M3 e30! They built the B6 3.5, that car was/is much better and faster than the M3!And they also had the B6 s,which was the only ever M car that ALPINA used as a base car. Same 3.5 l straight 6 in it, I believe there where only 62 ever made!
vk3kvk Ok, will do, thanks a lot ;)
Thing is it's not really a BMW. It's an Alpina. I have a Euro E24 with Alpina rims, which are great. I've never cared for the striped livery, I just think it's ugly.
YOU KNOW :D :D :D
I really liked this video. Well done ! These 6 E24 series ALPINAs are one of the rarest and most desirable ALPINAs. 👌
I feel very humble with my 'modern' B3 3.0 E36 cabrio ☺
Just let you guys know Alpina have vineyards they are into wine check it out .
Yes you are right, they are I believe part owner of some vineyards in Hungary, but the majority of wine they sell comes from other vineyards. They actually make as much money with wines as they make with cars. Burkhard Bovensiepen ,the owner of ALPINA made another hobby of him into a business. if you look at pictures taken from above the factory, the building on the left is the "wine cellar"! They are very well known to sell excellent wines from all over the world. Not cheap but very very good. The best cars in the world, combined with the best wines!Savoir vivre:-)!
I fell in love with the E30 in the 80's during the Group A Touring Car era... wonderful looking motor vehicles.
THE SECRET BMW COLLECTOR!!!!!!!!!!
The Collector. I would love to take a tour of his garage!
My god, how those thing look ! I NEEED IT !
BMW The Secret BMW collector.....? :D ;)
yea
+E246ixer nope it is not
exactly my first thought when he came one screen.
i use to have a 1973 BMW 3.0si bavaria wish i shill had it :(
I'm just looking at my 2014 F30 and realising I don't want it at all...I want that B10
It is one of those utterly perfect things ever. Love the music btw! Who is that!❤️☀️
Alpina is a brand. It says Alpina on the registration,not BMW Alpina like for example Mercedes AMG. Alpina gets a bare shell from BMW and build the car as an Alpina. And my god they are fu**ing awesome! The E24 especially,damn what a beautiful design,be it a BMW or Alpina
Alpina used to get bare shells from BMW. This isn't the case anymore. Alpinas are now built on BMW's production line, with Alpina parts mounted by BMW (Alpina supplies the parts). Then the almost finished cars are sent to Alpina where they are finished.
Concerning registration in North America it says only "BMW" because Alpina is not recognised as a manufacturer there. The North American cars keep their BMW VIN.
+EVILSPAWN1003 not true. all Alpina cars keep their original BMW VIN number and have a second Alpina VIN number added.Just by having a BMW VIN proves they are just tuned/modified/improved upon by Alpina.
Verliebt "Since 1983 Alpina has been recognized by the German Federal Ministry of Transport as an automobile manufacturer, thus Alpina-built cars are branded and registered as Alpina instead of BMW, although an Alpina can be bought and serviced at local BMW dealerships, and covered if there is a warranty issue."
EVILSPAWN1003 that's not true either. they're registered as BMW Alpina, not just Alpina. You can service them at BMW dealers because they share a great deal of parts with regular BMWs. Alpina modifies the engine and interior, plus some cosmetic changes on the outside, other than that, the cars are identical to any other BMW.
Verliebt Yes it fucking is you plonker!
No one is disputing that it`s "identical" to other BMW`s,they come off the same assembly line for fuck sake!
It`s that the Alpina ones are registered as
Alpinas,not BMW`s. The STATE OF GERMANY recognise Alpina as a manufacturer,not a tuner. It`s not like AMG
which is "Mercedes AMG",a Alpina is
an Alpina B7,not a BMW Alpina B7.
Me and a mate have just brought a3.5 b10 coupe should be on the road in the next 6 months
100% amazing, no words for this! Enjoy and keep running
Hello Petrolicious! What is that Song in the beginning of the Video?
Would love to hear from you!
This is but one example of why I've loved cars my whole life. Great video, 2 of the most beautiful BMWs you will never see.
acesneights1130 very true
Monday.. I probably choose B7S.. weekend?? the rest of his collections.. haha
This is one fortunate man to have so many old BMWs.
The 1980s BMW 6- series has always been a favorite of mine but, to see these Alpinas in absolutely cherry condition is just so very cool!
I've loved Alpina's since I discovered them age 10 in 1981, when I was taken to the annual BMW car club by my dad at BMW GB in Bracknell in the UK. I just love Alpina's philosophy of make it faster, make it nicer, but make it also so usable and not track focused like M cars. M cars, the only ones I truly desire are the M635csi and the E34 M5 in 3.8 guise. Alpina's, I just love them all and would love to have an E24 Alpina, but it's probably never going to happen, but, a B3s E46, is a possibility and one I want so badly.
I was never a BMW fan........until I drove an ALPINA.
Use to own an 1985 Alpina C2 2.5, was a great feeling driving it when everything was in sync. Would love to ownan E30 B6S, which, in my eyes in the perfect Alpina.
these are kicking up in value bc you can barely find em in germany let alone somewhere else
I like your cars and i love your alpinas, I owned a b8 touring. Still sad it had to go 😭
The engine sound. I will miss the pure engine sound in the future when all the cars would be electric. I think that even if it's mandatory to have all electric cars in the future, we should preserve the "old" cars. Because they aren't simple "means of transport". They are part of humanity's history...
Does anybody know what is the soundtrack? :( Plz its beautiful. And great video, its showing how much we love cars, because its not just a piece of metal and engine on wheels...
what is that song / riff on in the background?
Hey, outstanding video!!! I'm already very much into the hobby of these vintage BMW's, but after seeing this vid I'm even more into it! Holy smokes what a nice collection you have!!!!!
I still remember a German relative of mine having a 3.0 CSL. What a car! That B10 is something else though. Fantastic.
and I'm on the same in GTA 4 excellent drift
These classic Alpinas are amazing. Today, the Bovensiepen's have grown desperately fat and lazy on the automotive front and produce cars that are less focussed than the stuff from M-Division. There isn't a single manual gearbox in the current Alpina lineup for a start. Frankly, they should sell the Alpina brand to someone with less wine and ink in their veins and a bit more petrol.
Agreed. It seems to be a common tone in the world today.. :/
Fortunately for this gentleman, he seems to have both.
You don't seem to get what Alpina is all about. Alpina has always had more emphasis on luxury, higher torque and overall comfortablity then the M division(which is all about track times and handling)
colin5577 It seems thats BMW doesn't allow them to make outstanding cars anymore like the B7S, B10 BT, B12 or B8 4.6. Currently all Alpinas are slower than M models, that's not a coincidence. I wonder how Alpina managed to get the right to produce the B5 and B6 Edition 50 (with more hp than M models). This is not only my opinion.
Something which is my opinion : why Alpina withdrew from GT3 racing the year BMW entered the competition ? Alpina was successful and had been participing in GT3 racing for only 4 years which is clearly not a lot. This is also strange.
spekhugger Well, I get what Alpina is about now. It just doesn't tally with how they got started or with the ethos that motivated the factory when they made the cars that built their brand. Back in the day, had Alpina been let loose on a Z8, they'd have turned up the wick on it and made it a bit more focused. The philosophy that takes something like a Z8 and sticks a relatively low revving V8 into it and adds an automatic gearbox suggests more than a bit of middle-aged spread about the brand. These days, Alpina make, for the most part, a charming variety of slightly better finished BMW diesels. Christ.
oh man those recaro seats....
this is the guy from the bmw channel with the amazing car collection
BMW❤️❤️❤️ BMW e34 m5 is my dream car
So much for a secret collector 😂😂😂😂
Theres 2 in Albania just to inform you...i guess is fun to drive you feel more unique on classics, as for power i guess not really, my cls amg 570 bhp, but i like more my e30 convertible 325i, its just classy, my next one should be bmw 2002 turbo but its very hard to find them now days...by the way you have some great cars there
I think you don't have a car.. or perhaps a 1/24 scale ... kiss your bike!
tano man jealous its very bad think you get nothing in life. Go and cut your tomatoes as you do one one of your videos!!!
In the 80's as a kid in Puerto Rico i always admired my neighbor Alpina. Loved the sound!
I had a classic BMW it is a money pit
there is one for sale on mobile.de for 9.900€
Just love these earlier Alpinas
I have a BMW 85' M635csi Euro!
I live in Miami, Fl
Where are you guys based?
Santiago Stockton hey still have m635csi ? Am also in miami with a euro635csi
These take me back, spent time as an technician in a BMW dealer in 87/88 when these cars were new.... they were special cars back then, still are. That B7s tho 😯😯
Buchloe power !
Neat cars from a great time to own a BMW product - I used to pull 2002 motors in my garage -- tear them completely down and rebuilt them in two weeks -- everything was simple -- no magic and computers. The B7 Alpina is nice but it certainly won't take anything on the road these days (as stated in the video) -- my Grand Cherokee SRT would eat it.
I could buy a 635 Csi for a really low price...but I don´t know if I should do it.
If you're looking at it, you'll get a fever for it... drive it... you'll buy it... it's love at first sight...
Alpina's are absolutely gorgeous! - They have more torque than M cars. More time is spent on the luxury and quality than just making a sports car. End result is you have a sports car with high quality luxury and something which s not common. You will turn heads for sure when you're on the road in a Alpina than a standard M car!
beautiful... i have an e23 euro spec
Absolutely gorgeous. Alpinas were my boyhood fantasy. I still have the very latest Alpina B7 as my desktop wallpaer!
Love them all lol I enjoy driving my old e34 more than my bosses new e class or Porsche
Такие Красавцы!Обе машины СУПЕР!Хозяину РЕСПЕКТ!Молодец мужик!Такой гараж РАРИТЕТОВ собрал!СКАЗКА!Но Е23 и Е24,это самые красивые из БМВ!
You have inspired me sir
Thank you for the video. What a bunch of pure and beautiful cars!
So few of those left and yet he drives them, huge respect from a young German E21-owner!
omg i love BMW so much, i have BMW e34 525tds and i love this car
"Auto Motor & Sport", a german car magazine had a test and gathered some B7s and B7 coupes many years ago. (E28 and E24)
All turbo-models, and most of them had outputs over 400bhp... :D
Up northwest a E28 with four men onboard owned a guy on a Honda CBR900RR; On the straights! 290km/h... :D
This was in the mid 90's.
Those were the days.
We were young and a bit mad, and had loads of fun! ;)
Oooooh my word...i get goosebumps when watching this😂
I'm Sick FREAKIN' AWESOME Rides... I Have A Restored '73 2002 (Red) & "HAD" A '85 Euro Spec 635csi That Was Crunched :( And I Tell Ya' I Haven't Been The Same Since. I Want To Get My Hands / My Butt Into A "Euro M6" If It Kills Me (No Pun Intended :-)
I had a new 1972 2002 for 200k miles.
(1) 2002 had the best driver vision, like being in a glass dome. (2) They were made for cornering (3) You could work on them yourself and there was a great aftermarket network to soup up performance.
I know of one other E24 B10 in the states. Came out of Wyoming and was sold on BaT a few years back. Pierburg mechanical fuel injection. Nightmare. A late B10 with motronic is where it's at.
I don't have anywhere near the collection you do, but by accident I happen to pick up a dream come true.
I contacted an east coast collector, while looking for parts and he told me to do everything I could to restore my e30 back to factory conditions,...or to call him and he would buy it so that it can be restored.
I have a white 325i convertible, with an automatic and cardinal red interior.
The collector I spoke with said the color combination was a lot more popular in Europe and that blackstock at American dealerships are the whole reason that color combination is here.
BMW never sent one of these directly to the states from the factory.
He also said that there were only 3 thousand automatic convertibles sold in 1989.
According to him, because she also has the cardinal red interior, WITH THE FACTORY RED CARPET.
Then she's one of a 120.
Can you confirm this?
The secret to Alpina was the chassis and suspension tuning! My ex-girlfriend had a 323 turbo Alpina and it came across to the US via gray market and was equipped with Scheel racing seats, bilstein shocks, camber kits, extra large sway bars and was lowered for track use. This thing blew away M cars at the road race tracks ...which were mainly focused on engine tuning. BMW made a big mistake when the only bought Motorsport and not Alpina. I don't believe that BMW ever brought over 323 turbos in the 1st generation 3 series. The power plant was from the 633 turbo euro car. People at the race track had never seen a Bimmer handle like that Alpina! Beautiful car and a pleasure to drive. I don't believe that it had dog cut gears in it... like this owner mentioned.
i had BMW 528i 1986 i both that car after guy get in accident there was no nose parts none.i tow this car 180 miles to my town and friend of mine (from 4th grade,)teach me how to rebuild that car.he say if u don't wanna spend money (which i have none at that time) learn how to fix.so spend 6 month after work, repaint half of the car and get occupation,i learn how to paint fix cars. start my own business buy cars fix the repaint them and sell for profit it was best time of my life.long story short i have huge hangar which was my UNCLE at peace god bless his soul,and enlightenment was incredible its like show room and car was look amazing and newer forget the images of that car.ITS JUST slipped OF MY HANDS.
I have (2) Solex side drafts with the cast aluminum Alpina "silencer" ., from a 1977 3 series Alpina . Plus the steering wheel from the same car . Willing to sell them both . I wrecked the car in Germany back in the late 80s, while in the AirForce . That car was a blast , had a huge rear end ratio . The acceleration was amazing.
I thought I knew everything holy shit this is amazing
My Ascot Grey e12 B7 Turbo was stolen by Hysmith Auto Body, 002 Restorations, and ultimately Endless Summer Customs in Eugene Oregon. It still hurts.
I used to own an Alpina BMW until a couple of years ago... a C2 2.7 E30 - great car. Huge difference between it an a regular E30 in everything from power to handling. Unfortunately I had to let it go to a better home, since I couldn't afford to maintain it anymore... Parts for alpina cars are very rare and extremely expensive... something as simple as a rear spring can be a huge pain in the ass to source. I do miss it tough...
I’m salivating
I just figured it out. Those Alpinas are like the Buick GNX and Grand National of Germany. The BMW is obviously the superior...
Is there anyway to get a b7s turbo engine for a e24 635csi?
No, turbocharge the existing engine instead. Things like the manifold, intake etc can be custom made or maybe sourced from some wrecked Alpina car. BMW straight sixes are sturdy. But please, don't molest a 635csi, they are kinda rare.
William Gson yeah I know they are rare. I was just curious. It be easy to turbo them myself but I wanted a OEM turbo engine just so I can do a project on other beamers
My dad had a friend with a wrecked Alpina e21. I remember as a kid playing in the car, pretending to be racing or robbing a bank. I drive an e46 m3 now and have always owned a BMW. Life goal is ALPINA.