Kevin should make a video on how he figures / establishes a new species in captivity. How he figures to correctly keep them , breed them and anything along those lines. Even talking about how he got in contact with some of the importers he works with.
Back when I used to breed different geckos (cresties, panthers and more), I started breeding lobster roaches and all the geckos just took off! More eggs and way faster growing babys. Nowadays I use it for different inverts and they seem to love them as well. Best feeder roach out there!
I love how you show both feeder and pet species! So it makes sense why some aren't feeders. It seems all can be a good pet but some are better at it. Glad to know some species are far less likely to reproduce which would be great for wanting to only keep a few as pets and not worrying about a colony forming.
Yah I love bugs spiders and all that cool stuff and it's been a mission to desensitize my boyfriend. I'm kinda to the point to where I just bring em home and say... what r u gonna do about it? Can't do shit if their too scared to touch it haha... Mabe only do that if you know your mate isn't going to just up n leave lol like if they have a true phobia to where they can't even look at photos of them without being dramatic. We must continue the good fight to change their perspectives'!! Haha
The big roach you have could be two types. B. Giganteus ( i think they are) or archimandrita tessellata. But I remember mine as more broad and more spotted. Some times I find weird hybrids at least I europe. Took me ages to actually get B. Craniferii. The one you need from Blaberus is discondalis. Smaller than craniferii and giganteus. But faster growing. Not as fast as Dubai but you will get a larger cockroach. I liked to feed with these to my larger animal.
Sometimes B. Discondalis is called ghost cockroach or similar. Because the true one ( Also crazy amount of hybrids here in eu) will get very light almost white wings.
one good technique I have seen for keeping your bins clean is to stack them, but cut out the floor of the upper bin and put a mesh there instead so that all the debris falls into the lower bin
Great vid. I was thinking about restarting a dubia colony after a few years out of the spider hobby, but you've half-convinced me to go with lobsters. I never heard of the isopropyl + talc trick before. That's doable. I have a lot of isopropyl around the place these days, for some reason...
the end is so brutal 'they die' cut x) no more seriously I know nothing about roach so learning about them like this is definetly cool !! love those video !
A few weeks ago a drove all the way to your store to pick up a bunch of hissers since all of mines died off. They’re now breeding like crazy and didn’t expect them to breed that much. Thank you!
Hi. Checking things out. Brian recommend it due to the fact he is in Mexico at the moment. That family over there is amazing with their reptiles. Fatastic crew. Clean and tidy. Safe and best part during viewing. Very entertaining. Curious if you can match. Which I bet you can. What you guys got...(views videos).
I love learning from Kevin so much that I’m even listening to (not watching) this episode...... Not sure if I’m gonna make it through, the whole video cause I can hear them all crawling 😩
Awesome video! I didn't know anything about Lobster Roaches, I have never heard of them before thank you for the info and for the tip about the petroleum jelly!
Really nice video I must say. And I'm pretty sure the roaches at 8:36 are some _Blaberus sp._ but not sure which one. Although, they look quite a lot like _Blaberus giganteus_ .
Such a weird noise lol. I wouldn't mind sticking my hand into a pet container with only a few roaches. It's kinda crazy how he had all kinds of species in one bowl. I thought mixing species was a bad idea.
Always great videos I love watching and learning some new info. Pretty much everything I know already but refreshing since I'm starting other kinds of roach colonies. Watching from Upstate Ny
I use to keep dubia. Problem that i found about dubias is they like to play possum most of the time whenever they feel cornered by any of my Tarantulas, centipedes, or scorpions. So i don't tend to keep them anymore and i have since switched to orange heads and discoid roaches ever since because they don't play dead as much as dubias. In fact, orange heads and discoids tends to stand their ground which is better than playing dead lol I mean I can still use dubias but, I will literally have to crush their heads first in order for my Arachnids and myriapods to get a good feeding response because dubias will in fact twitch and fidget when their heads are crushed. Dubias IMO are only great for reptiles that can actually see the dubia move than a blind predator such as Ts, scorpions, and centipedes. Hissing roaches exoskeleton are way to hard for my pets too btw.. So i don't keep them as feeders as well.
You mention that many species make for good components in a bioactive setup. I breed discoids for my animals. When feeding them off we do a few different things. We’ll either tong feed or we’ll place them within an escape proof dish. I also keep many bioactive enclosures in which we use several different species of isopods as our cleaner crews. We have had discoids escape into bioactives only to learn that they’ll eat any eggs that are present within the setup. Now this could be an exception to the rule or this may be an anomaly or perhaps that’s just what they do. So, when you’re suggesting that species are good for bioactives, are you not worried about them eating eggs? What’s your experience with this (any species of roach)? We keep about 30 groups of crested geckos, about 7 groups of gargoyle geckos, and about 11 groups of mainland and pine island chahoua in enclosures with a bioactive substrate only. We will implement the use of cork slabs/rounds and plastic plants just to give some background info...
Daves little beasties has a great way to keep and feed the roaches that seems to work really well an it helps keep it clean. Everyone should check his channel out.
True story… 6 years ago I put my large colony of Dubias in the back patio of my new home, the container turned over and they all escaped to the neighbors back patio, 1 week later he had his house tented and fumigated! He never found out where the roaches came from.😅
Hey guys! In Kevin's voice " Kevin you are so smart" but on a serious note I'd love to sit down with you and soak all the knowledge in. Love reptitles but, those roaches give me the serious Heebie jeebies! Dude I wouldn't be able to stick my hand in that bowl! And I'm a tough ole gal lol. Another great videos guys!
I am not a pet enthusiast or insect nut or anything along those lines, but I am a organic no till gardener and besides worms I use ivory head roaches to make frass and compost to add chiten and silica etc to my soil. In essence I keep several ivory head roach bins and throw food and garden waste in to feed them and they thrive for weeks without attention and multiply exponentially in warm temps like say a greenhouse or whatever. This is for breeding tho you can keep them and have some breeding at room temp indoors just inna closet. Anyway the point is I know nothing of roaches and reptiles as a hobby but I cannot imagine an easier and better feeder roach to raise than ivory head. Tbh idk why they have not replaced dubias as feeders since they don't climb smell or Wing bite. The only thing I can imagine is ppl wanting to sell them for $$ don't like they burrow because that complicates the matter regarding separating ages, but if you are keeping em for compost or feeders for your own animals be it chickens or reptiles then I assure you you cant beat ivory heads.
Place a piece of cardboard , as tall , but not as wide as the eggcrates between each , they don't collapse together , or get hung up on each other as your pulling one out Cheers
I just spent 18 minutes learning about an animal I never want to even go near, I'd freak right the fuck out if I had just one of those loose in my house, even the little ones. Donny, how long were you filming Kevin playing with roaches for this to be an 18 min video? lol
Awesome video, as always... Could I use roaches to feed my fish when they get bigger ? I love the fact I'll be feeding the roaches nutritional foods to transfer to my fish... Excellent information.!!!
9:55 these are Blaberus xD if you say they're not the gigantic ones from Brazil(Blaberus giganteus) it's most likely Blaberus collosseus from Peru or Ecuador.
I have "only" about 30 + - dubia cockroaches ... and I want more!. I would also like tropical isopods in brown and white + normal isopods, as well as springtails 😬. I don't intend to feed them yet if there are more I'll just sell them 🤔💭.
What’s your opinion on discoid roaches if you have any experience with them? I’ve heard they’re a good alternative to dubias which are illegal in Florida and I’m looking for a good medium size feeder for an adult female Pac-Man frog. But I’m worried about armor/leg spikes and things like that.
I would love to put these in my MB kingsnakes bioactive enclosure but do I need to worry about her ever eating them? Lol that might sound super dumb but they just have such huge appetites lol. Any answers??
Only the male hisses and he does it when he's trying to scare someone or something away or when it's a little stressed lol ...but after having them for a while they get used to you handling them and the males won't hiss at you unless the get a little hissed off then you may hear them you don't want to house to many males together cause you wil start seeing pieces of wings broken off pieces of legs antennas all of that stuff cause they are fighting over who's the boss lol.....I love to hear Kevin teaching us the stuff he knows he's ridiculously smart and he has taught me so much stuff it's insane
Was lucky enough to be sold some cave roach nymphs in error .. sold as Dubia.. sadly I fed half of them off before I realised.. today’s job of the day .. clean my feeder colony’s out 🙂
My leos, all 7 DO NOT like the taste of lobsters. I can get them to take maybe one a piece then they turn up their noses. However, I offer them dubs and they'll each take 3, 4, 5 mediums- larges. They love them. I feed all my roach species the same diet(base is chick starter, with fish flakes, and some organic fruit powder(banana this time)). So the only thing I can think of is that they taste different, maybe something to do with the odor the lobsters produce when agitated? Any ideas or insights guys?
I did this with my lobster roaches and my colony was thriving until my colony burned up. 1. When the substrate reduces by half, don’t just throw new substrate on top. New and old substrate should be integrated. 2. Mist twice daily. Do not let the substrate to dry out. 3. And do not put your colony in a plastic tub with a heat pad on the outside.
All the good stuff I’ve heard about this guy, seeing how he knows so much, how much he cares, and how he is the reptile whisperer, I’d follow him into the desert if he told me to go.🤦♀️ Lol, no I am just saying that if I was going to listen to anyone it would be Him!
great information video.... wish i could raise a few of these. canada only allowed surinam or australian.... just learning. trying to figure which is the best and way to raise
Lobster roaches vs. red runner roaches? What do u think? I’m rlly considering switch from discoids. They r SO hard to breed and so expensive. Thank you
Kevin should make a video on how he figures / establishes a new species in captivity. How he figures to correctly keep them , breed them and anything along those lines. Even talking about how he got in contact with some of the importers he works with.
I love this video! More like this!!!!!!
Clint's Reptiles thank you buddy!!!!! K
The hobby needs your knowledge!
Slept on topic rewatching 😂
Re watching
Shame this content doesn't get many views
Back when I used to breed different geckos (cresties, panthers and more), I started breeding lobster roaches and all the geckos just took off! More eggs and way faster growing babys. Nowadays I use it for different inverts and they seem to love them as well. Best feeder roach out there!
Paul-Robin Franz yes they really are a good species ! K
Where can I get some?
I love how you show both feeder and pet species! So it makes sense why some aren't feeders. It seems all can be a good pet but some are better at it. Glad to know some species are far less likely to reproduce which would be great for wanting to only keep a few as pets and not worrying about a colony forming.
YAYYYYY, THE ROACH VIDEO!!! Thanks Kevin, I was stoked for this!
My lavender albino retic will be here in 2 hours, I'm LOSING it with excitement!
I just got my girlfriend to accept snakes - next is rats - I don’t think I can push it to roaches haha
Doing the same thing with my husband. It's been 8 months of daily reptile videos and he is now willing to be in the same room as my dubias 😂
Yah I love bugs spiders and all that cool stuff and it's been a mission to desensitize my boyfriend. I'm kinda to the point to where I just bring em home and say... what r u gonna do about it? Can't do shit if their too scared to touch it haha... Mabe only do that if you know your mate isn't going to just up n leave lol like if they have a true phobia to where they can't even look at photos of them without being dramatic. We must continue the good fight to change their perspectives'!! Haha
I had mine to the point of acceptance....then he found a dubia roach in his pants on the way to work....never heard the end of that.
This is freaking awesome. In my research and preparation in getting a snake/lizard, I'm trying to learn and appreciate bugs. This is helping.
Great video, Kevin and Donny! I'd definitely appreciate seeing more practical educational videos like this one in the future!
The big roach you have could be two types. B. Giganteus ( i think they are) or archimandrita tessellata. But I remember mine as more broad and more spotted. Some times I find weird hybrids at least I europe. Took me ages to actually get B. Craniferii.
The one you need from Blaberus is discondalis. Smaller than craniferii and giganteus. But faster growing. Not as fast as Dubai but you will get a larger cockroach. I liked to feed with these to my larger animal.
Sometimes B. Discondalis is called ghost cockroach or similar. Because the true one ( Also crazy amount of hybrids here in eu) will get very light almost white wings.
So this is what it takes to get Kevin in a good mood. Awesome video. Very informative and usefiul
one good technique I have seen for keeping your bins clean is to stack them, but cut out the floor of the upper bin and put a mesh there instead so that all the debris falls into the lower bin
Cool video! A break from the norm but a welcome break. I definitely learned something new and enjoyed this one. Thanks guys, keep it up!
Great vid. I was thinking about restarting a dubia colony after a few years out of the spider hobby, but you've half-convinced me to go with lobsters. I never heard of the isopropyl + talc trick before. That's doable. I have a lot of isopropyl around the place these days, for some reason...
the end is so brutal 'they die' cut x) no more seriously I know nothing about roach so learning about them like this is definetly cool !! love those video !
A few weeks ago a drove all the way to your store to pick up a bunch of hissers since all of mines died off. They’re now breeding like crazy and didn’t expect them to breed that much. Thank you!
Hi. Checking things out. Brian recommend it due to the fact he is in Mexico at the moment. That family over there is amazing with their reptiles. Fatastic crew. Clean and tidy. Safe and best part during viewing. Very entertaining. Curious if you can match. Which I bet you can. What you guys got...(views videos).
Love how he even knows about roaches. And is excited too. You all have info on rats? Breeding enrichment husbandry?
Im pretty sure Kevin doesn't breed rats. In one of his podcasts he mentioned it was depressing to breed rats only to feed them to his snakes.
As a roach enthusiast. This video was incredibly helpful! Y'all at NERD are amazing!
Hey guys, Bryan sent me and to show you some love! 😎
I love learning from Kevin so much that I’m even listening to (not watching) this episode......
Not sure if I’m gonna make it through, the whole video cause I can hear them all crawling 😩
Highly educational video, Thank you!
This is great content. You have an amazing collection of EVERYTHING there and your knowledge is crazy cool
Man!! I really appreciate all yous guys creating great content, the information is quite informative and detailed..
just got a centipede not getting a colony roaches, but learning different types in this vid helps
an awful lot, thanks so much
for this info
i have a madagascar hissing roach colony with my best friend!! thank you for putting out a video about them! they’re great!
Awesome video! I didn't know anything about Lobster Roaches, I have never heard of them before thank you for the info and for the tip about the petroleum jelly!
Seriously apprciate this video, love your educational style vid's Kevin, keep em coming!
Ive been waiting for mr. Brians visit to ur place always, love ur animals
Really nice video I must say. And I'm pretty sure the roaches at 8:36 are some _Blaberus sp._ but not sure which one. Although, they look quite a lot like _Blaberus giganteus_ .
Kevin is my favorite person!!!! I absolutely love watching because he is so informative. SO AMAZING!
Really informative and interesting video! I didn't know it but Roaches are fascinating lol. Nice job Kevin.
Perfect timing. I need to start a colony or two of roaches. Thank you for all you do!💜
I love watching Kevin🐍
My favorite NERD video's are Kevin's teaching video's.
Pumpkin. I can't believe how crazy everything goes for pumpkin. I've been getting the small pie pumpkins. It lasts a long time as well.
I could not put my hand in that bowl. I would have to tweezer feed. YUCK!! Love reptiles hate the bugs lol
Such a weird noise lol. I wouldn't mind sticking my hand into a pet container with only a few roaches. It's kinda crazy how he had all kinds of species in one bowl. I thought mixing species was a bad idea.
I would've used Godzilla's atomic breath all in that room
Always great videos I love watching and learning some new info. Pretty much everything I know already but refreshing since I'm starting other kinds of roach colonies. Watching from Upstate Ny
Your roach collection is amazing! I'd love to get something other than dubias.
The giant cave roaches were my favorite, that and the Cuban banana roaches. They weren't great feeders but they were decently prolific.
I use to keep dubia. Problem that i found about dubias is they like to play possum most of the time whenever they feel cornered by any of my Tarantulas, centipedes, or scorpions. So i don't tend to keep them anymore and i have since switched to orange heads and discoid roaches ever since because they don't play dead as much as dubias. In fact, orange heads and discoids tends to stand their ground which is better than playing dead lol I mean I can still use dubias but, I will literally have to crush their heads first in order for my Arachnids and myriapods to get a good feeding response because dubias will in fact twitch and fidget when their heads are crushed. Dubias IMO are only great for reptiles that can actually see the dubia move than a blind predator such as Ts, scorpions, and centipedes. Hissing roaches exoskeleton are way to hard for my pets too btw.. So i don't keep them as feeders as well.
lots of Varanus niloticus on the market now . Have Keven do a video .
Omg Kevin smiled in a pic other then that grade school pic on the wall in one of the reptile rooms .
Dubias are illegal in my country, so I've just started a Surinam colony. I'm just glad to be done with crickets - those things are a pain.
You mention that many species make for good components in a bioactive setup. I breed discoids for my animals. When feeding them off we do a few different things. We’ll either tong feed or we’ll place them within an escape proof dish. I also keep many bioactive enclosures in which we use several different species of isopods as our cleaner crews. We have had discoids escape into bioactives only to learn that they’ll eat any eggs that are present within the setup. Now this could be an exception to the rule or this may be an anomaly or perhaps that’s just what they do. So, when you’re suggesting that species are good for bioactives, are you not worried about them eating eggs? What’s your experience with this (any species of roach)? We keep about 30 groups of crested geckos, about 7 groups of gargoyle geckos, and about 11 groups of mainland and pine island chahoua in enclosures with a bioactive substrate only. We will implement the use of cork slabs/rounds and plastic plants just to give some background info...
Daves little beasties has a great way to keep and feed the roaches that seems to work really well an it helps keep it clean. Everyone should check his channel out.
True story… 6 years ago I put my large colony of Dubias in the back patio of my new home, the container turned over and they all escaped to the neighbors back patio, 1 week later he had his house tented and fumigated! He never found out where the roaches came from.😅
Anyone else having allergies ? When messing with their roach colony
Great coverage of the care of feeder roaches!
Thanx for the breakdown of different feeder roaches
Hey guys! In Kevin's voice " Kevin you are so smart" but on a serious note I'd love to sit down with you and soak all the knowledge in. Love reptitles but, those roaches give me the serious Heebie jeebies! Dude I wouldn't be able to stick my hand in that bowl! And I'm a tough ole gal lol. Another great videos guys!
I feel the same exact way lol
Thank you so very much for this information. I do have getckos. I need to get me a colony of dubia roaches.
Thank you that was very educational.
Please do more videos like this..
Great topic- thanks,Kevin
I am not a pet enthusiast or insect nut or anything along those lines, but I am a organic no till gardener and besides worms I use ivory head roaches to make frass and compost to add chiten and silica etc to my soil. In essence I keep several ivory head roach bins and throw food and garden waste in to feed them and they thrive for weeks without attention and multiply exponentially in warm temps like say a greenhouse or whatever. This is for breeding tho you can keep them and have some breeding at room temp indoors just inna closet. Anyway the point is I know nothing of roaches and reptiles as a hobby but I cannot imagine an easier and better feeder roach to raise than ivory head. Tbh idk why they have not replaced dubias as feeders since they don't climb smell or Wing bite. The only thing I can imagine is ppl wanting to sell them for $$ don't like they burrow because that complicates the matter regarding separating ages, but if you are keeping em for compost or feeders for your own animals be it chickens or reptiles then I assure you you cant beat ivory heads.
That was super informative!! Very cool!!!
Keep up the good work Donny you 💪🏽
I have 14 species of cockroach as pets I love this video amazing to watch and so informative ❤
Place a piece of cardboard , as tall , but not as wide as the eggcrates between each , they don't collapse together , or get hung up on each other as your pulling one out
Cheers
Man those roaches eat way better than I do. Interesting video for sure, would love to see a video on the Death feigning beetle if you guys keep them.
eddie julian I have never kept them. K
I just spent 18 minutes learning about an animal I never want to even go near, I'd freak right the fuck out if I had just one of those loose in my house, even the little ones. Donny, how long were you filming Kevin playing with roaches for this to be an 18 min video? lol
Best informative video ive seen on cockroach breeding! NERD is badass!
dang i just got a dubia roaches colony now i have to convince my mom later to get lobster roaches.
can you please do a video on cleaning lopster roach setups
Awesome video, as always... Could I use roaches to feed my fish when they get bigger ? I love the fact I'll be feeding the roaches nutritional foods to transfer to my fish... Excellent information.!!!
Ray Cooper i think it would be a great idea! Fish love bugs and i used to feed pieces of mealworms to my barb
Ray Cooper yes!!!! Lobsters are great for that. K
@@GuilhermeOliveira-vs7uh , thank you, I have a tank full of Barb's, and three other tanks.
Cant have reached where I live it's a real shame cause our winters kill all
This is super helpful!! Thanks, Kevin!!
9:55 these are Blaberus xD if you say they're not the gigantic ones from Brazil(Blaberus giganteus) it's most likely Blaberus collosseus from Peru or Ecuador.
Thank you for the video
I have "only" about 30 + - dubia cockroaches ... and I want more!. I would also like tropical isopods in brown and white + normal isopods, as well as springtails 😬. I don't intend to feed them yet if there are more I'll just sell them 🤔💭.
What’s your opinion on discoid roaches if you have any experience with them? I’ve heard they’re a good alternative to dubias which are illegal in Florida and I’m looking for a good medium size feeder for an adult female Pac-Man frog. But I’m worried about armor/leg spikes and things like that.
I WISH SOMEONE WOULD DO VIDEOS ON DISCOIDS in Florida we can't have any of the others like Dubia so I have a hard time finding info on discoids
Thinking of getting into the breeding side of roaches and this video was awesome. You got a new subscriber.
Camera man heckle was a great start.
As someone trying to get over their fear of roaches, I would probably have blacked tf out at the very first frame a month ago 😂😂😂
I would love to put these in my MB kingsnakes bioactive enclosure but do I need to worry about her ever eating them? Lol that might sound super dumb but they just have such huge appetites lol. Any answers??
Doggy Mama no your snake will not eat them !!! K
Only the male hisses and he does it when he's trying to scare someone or something away or when it's a little stressed lol ...but after having them for a while they get used to you handling them and the males won't hiss at you unless the get a little hissed off then you may hear them you don't want to house to many males together cause you wil start seeing pieces of wings broken off pieces of legs antennas all of that stuff cause they are fighting over who's the boss lol.....I love to hear Kevin teaching us the stuff he knows he's ridiculously smart and he has taught me so much stuff it's insane
Kevin please kamoto dragon and boelens python you guys are doing an amazing job bty! Keep it up!
Was lucky enough to be sold some cave roach nymphs in error .. sold as Dubia.. sadly I fed half of them off before I realised..
today’s job of the day .. clean my feeder colony’s out 🙂
What is the best cockroaches to feed that do not dig or Berry them selfs
A C lobsters. Dubias. K
My leos, all 7 DO NOT like the taste of lobsters. I can get them to take maybe one a piece then they turn up their noses. However, I offer them dubs and they'll each take 3, 4, 5 mediums- larges. They love them. I feed all my roach species the same diet(base is chick starter, with fish flakes, and some organic fruit powder(banana this time)).
So the only thing I can think of is that they taste different, maybe something to do with the odor the lobsters produce when agitated?
Any ideas or insights guys?
Great vid! Would lobsters work in any kind of screen enclosures?
Good Video , those big roaches .. are they Poppa Roaches lol
This is off topic but what's your opinion on keeping venomous animals as pets but with out handling them?
Drake Ducker not good pets!!!! K
I did this with my lobster roaches and my colony was thriving until my colony burned up.
1. When the substrate reduces by half, don’t just throw new substrate on top. New and old substrate should be integrated.
2. Mist twice daily. Do not let the substrate to dry out.
3. And do not put your colony in a plastic tub with a heat pad on the outside.
All the good stuff I’ve heard about this guy, seeing how he knows so much, how much he cares, and how he is the reptile whisperer, I’d follow him into the desert if he told me to go.🤦♀️ Lol, no I am just saying that if I was going to listen to anyone it would be Him!
I looked on your website and don't see roaches. Do you sell them or only use them for yourself (reptiles)?
Are there any concerns with feeding roaches fruits, such as oranges if your feeding them to your reptiles ?
Some of those giants were bigger than minnows I can only imagine that a bass would enjoy eating those
Love my Madagascar I got from you, he’s great!
Always good info!!
How many lobster roaches can I fit into a 50 gallon tote to breed with egg crates? Great roach video by the way!
is it ok to feed them citrus even though you are going to feed them to your reptile or should they be away from the citrus for a set period of time?
LOL Been waiting for this
I still have problems keeping lobster roaches in..
So I had a decent amount of Dubias escape my colony because of an accident. Should I be worried? I don't live in a tropical area.
great information video.... wish i could raise a few of these. canada only allowed surinam or australian.... just learning. trying to figure which is the best and way to raise
How have I missed this !
Lobster roaches vs. red runner roaches? What do u think? I’m rlly considering switch from discoids. They r SO hard to breed and so expensive. Thank you
What fruit and veg do u recommend for Madagascar hissing cockroaches
Didn't mention buffalo beetles, one of the most important parts, for preventing mold/waste/smell...