George Steuart was exchanged and commanded a brigade under George Pickett. He and many of his men were captured on April 1, 1865 at five Forks Virginia.
BG George Steuart commanded a mixed NC/VA brigade in 2nd Corps. MG Edward Johnson was his division commander. Johnson's division was destroyed at the "Bloody Angle".
Hard to imagine the psychological impact treating all the wounded of the Wilderness… Those CSA prisoners of the Mule Shoe had seen more than enough of the elephant(s) of war… yet despite it all the debates of politics held firm. Fascinating times indeed. As to the photo- is AJB wearing a glove? Thanks as always
The eloquence of the words and writings of the men and soldiers of that time is always astounding to me. North and south alike. Almost sounds like poetry the way they wrote and spoke. Learned and stern and forthright. And in almost every case, true. They wrote what they saw, thought, and felt because it impacted them that much. Even decades later they would recount the events as if they had just happened. Something that large couldn’t have affected them in any other way I would imagine. How could they forget? Amazing. Thank you for your work. These videos are the delight of my lunch break. I look forward to more from you and this channel. Thanks again. Back to the heat. Deo Vindice
@@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail appreciate you sir. Immensely. I can never get enough of the Civil War. Ever since I was a kid I’ve been drawn to it like a moth to flame. You help feed my desire for knowledge of that time period. Always interesting. Always informative. Impartial. Telling both sides with respect. Giving perspectives and insights into people and aspects I hadn’t even known about or thought of researching. I will continue to be eager to hear what story or event you speak on next. Thank you again. More more more please. Much appreciation to you and whoever else may be behind the scenes. Can’t wait til tomorrow.
They wrote that way because their minds had not been rotted by idiotic television shows, ridiculous video games, endless online drivel, and a hundred other "advances" of today's world. Also I suspect their education (and their respect for their teachers and other elders) far surpassed anything to be found today.
Hi, Ron, This was yet another very interesting video. Thank you for taking the time to produce it! I was under the impression that Confederate used a tiered officer rank system. In this particular case, colonels wore three stars on their collars while general officers wore three stars surrounded by a wreath. (The confederates general officer insignia did not differentiate between the five general officer ranks.). We all know General Lee wore a colonels uniform most of the time. How would the sanitary commission fellow know the confederate was a general, let alone a brigadier general, since they were the same? I am just quibbling but these possible inconsistencies seem to catch my attention. As always, keep up the great work!!! Karl
Yes, the collar insignia for colonels and brigadiers is exactly as you describe. Bloor writes how it was hard to tell who was an officer and who was not, but that some prisoners had turned their collars to reveal their rank. Bloor does not mention how he became aware of them. It is easy to imagine that word traveled by mouth that captured generals were part of the larger group. It is also easy to imagine they were maybe treated differently due to their high rank, which drew attention to them.
It is interesting that the relationship between prisoners and those that captured them of the Civil War were pretty cordial! The caputers did not abuse their prisoners initually when they were first captured in any way and the prisoners could even have political arguments with their captures without fear of being hurt! This is unlike many other wars where prisoners were abused and prisoners were terrified to even open their mouths to their captures for fear of being punished or worse! I know that once prisoners were placed in the actual prisons conditions were very bad for prisoners within the actual prison!
Black soldiers were not " murdered " at Fort Pillow. They were battle casualties . You can not fire your gun, throw up your hands and shout I give up , then run and pick up another gun and fire it at your opponent possibly killing some of them etc etc etc and claim that you were shot after surrendering. Also , when you commit numerous atrocities against the surrounding citizens and steal all their clothing and livestock so they can not survive the brutal winter you engender animosity that down not help things.
Charles, you are living in a fantasy world. I bet you’re a Trump supporter. Take a look at the three books that I mentioned below and read them and let me know what you think.
@@brycesuderow3576 Lol look in the mirror if you want to see what someone living in fantasy world look like.. The soldiers of fort pillow were surrounded, outnumbered, outgunned, and pinned down, their situation was hopeless, there were offered generous terms of surrender. They refused to surrender and decided to try and fight on... they effed around and found out.
@@brycesuderow3576 well you must be a Biden supporter ! Nothing to brag about there and He is just racist as those your trying to attack ! He was for seragation and ork wirh dem who was a KKK member ! Research before you talk !
Nathan Bedford forest had 42 black body guard soldiers around him at all times and was in many battles with right by his side !!! He said best damn soldiers he ever rode with !! I think all but one stayed with him after the war!!!! And yes he did join the kkk in the beginning because there was no law of the land after the war but became disenfranchised with them after he seen what they were doing !!!! In later years he actually spoke up for the black man and even spoke at one of their conventions !!!!! And when he died there was over a thousand black folks showed up at his funeral!!!! Need to do you some more research before you go to talking about something you obviously know little about !!!!
Just one more exmaple of lost cause fiction. Forrest was careful in the way he characterized these men. They were not at any time referred to as soldiers. Forrest was paid by the Confederate government for the slaves that rode with him. These black men were impressed enslaved men forced into the CSA army, as property, hired out by Forrest to the confederacy Their legal status never changed from enslaved men to free men during the course of the War of the Rebellion..
Please see the attached link. It's a research paper based on the official records of Forrest' s actions, and other Confederate sources. NBF did have 2 black soldiers in his personal guard. It also says that it was Confederate policy to execute captured black federal soldiers. It took me 5 minutes to find this.
@jimmyanderson2988 Spreading more B/S are you? Where did you get this information can you cite a reference? Sounds like 42 men with no job prospects and maybe in fear of their lives and families surrounded NBF. What or who was he afraid of? Why did he need bodyguards? Did he even pay them? When you heard this story, did logic suggest that there may be more to it than just face value? Or was this merely something that sounded good and went with what you'd like to hear? This man was the biggest thief of the Civil War, a raider who came out of the war 10 times richer than he went in all made in TN and MS. Bragg fired him for acting like "Angel Eyes" from the movie and not doing his true job - recon, but Jeff Davis brought him back as a Corps Commander for the money. Please cite your reference so I may research - Thanks
As far as I know, there is nothing in the Constitution about the right to secede. It is simply assumed by the party that wants to do so. So I guess we just fight it out, as we did with Great Britain, and as the Confederacy did with the United States.... and see who wins.
“As far as I know-“ First, I’m not telling. The Constitution isn’t that long. I suggest that reading it might be in order. One thing that amuses me through the years are the number of rights some people assume are somehow included in the Constitution. I think it’s well over a thousand, and the number increases daily. “-and see who wins.” As with 1865, where it’s hard to say who won the war, my estimate would be “nobody.”
@mencken8 well the way our system is set up, the constitution does not "list rights". It simply lists specific things the government may NOT do. The theory is, if something is not specifically listed in the Constitition, the government may not do it, or it's up to the states.
Well there you go now you know what the war was about two people can read the same thing and come up with two different view points and that’s what happened!!!! Lincoln’s main goal was to save the union and one of his offers to the southern states to try and keep them in the union was called the great compromise which in Lincoln’s own writing said that he would free some all or none of the slaves to keep the union together !!!!! Doesn’t sound to much like that was top priority but holding the union together was !!!!!! And as far as the rebels go they ask them why they were fighting and their answer was cause y’all down here !!!!most didn’t own a slave only the wealthy Democrat, plantation owners did !!!! So what it sounds like is a little more diplomacy on both sides could have prevented this war !!!! Remember everything that was in this country at that time was originally brought here from somewhere else !!!! Wasn’t invented here but was used here and everybody back then were racist black white red brown didn’t matter!!!! No where else in the world did it take a war to end slavery it was on the way out on its own !!!! With the modern revolution and the invention of machines it was just a matter of time !!!!! That’s what happened in the rest of the world !!! Oh but where it all originated from the cradle of Society as they say in Africa it’s still practiced till this day unfortunately!!!!! The great pyramids were built by slaves in Egypt !!!! And no an Egyptian is not a white man but the slaves were Jews who were white so as you can plainly tell there are no innocent races of man kind no where there’s enough blame to go around for all people cause we are all guilty!!!! Like Elon Musk told Don Lemon that we were all slaves at one time are the other it was just a matter of when and I might add by who !!!!! All you had to be was weak and conquer to be a slave !!!! And most were spoils of war !!!! From the Zulus in Africa and the Ivory Coast to the shores of America it was all about power and money that’s all !!!!! We are just indentured servants to the government now the very thing our forefathers fought against back then !!!! They tried to tell us well here we are right back where we started !!!!! How sad you would think we would have learned by now what not to do but I guess not !!!!!
@@historyandhorseplaying7374Perhaps the name of Gen. George H. Steuart? (Gen. Steuart's father also fought for freedom, only in the Revolutionary War.) He was swapped back to the South.
charlesbelser7249 I must disagree with your questionable claim that black soldiers were not murdered. First, Nathan Bedford Forest is notorious as founder of the Ku Klux Klan. I believe he also owned slaves. To him blacks were just property. Your alleged description of what happened to these soldiers appears to denigrate their performance on the battlefield.
he offered the officer at Fort Pillow to surrender , the commander didn't was killed and 2nd in command faked a second truce when forrest again gave him 30 mins to surrender ! Now it fact Forrest had captured both white Tennessee union troops and even black union troopers and sent them to Prisoner of war camp ! The first and 2nd commander at FT pillow should had surrender ! Period !
you know Forrest told US Congress that he had 40 slaves he took with him to war and called them the finest men that served him , they saved his life 3 times ! 2x at FT pillow and once at battle Selma and after the war 31 went to work for him after war ! When I entered the army I took forty-seven Negroes into the army with me, and forty-five of them were surrendered with me. I said to them at the start: ‘This fight is against slavery; if we lose it, you will be made free; if we whip in the fight, and if you stay with me and be good boys, I will set you free. In either case you will be free. Those boys stayed with me, drove my teams, and better confederates did not live. and you should read on his speech he gave at On July 5, 1875, Forrest gave a speech before the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association ( that was Pre- NAACP).
# 1, it is pretty much suggested amongst thoughtful historians that Ft Pillow was heavily embellished; # 2, Forrest was NOT the founder of the Klan. Do your due diligence.
Well there you go now you know what the war was about two people can read the same thing and come up with two different view points and that’s what happened!!!! Lincoln’s main goal was to save the union and one of his offers to the southern states to try and keep them in the union was called the great compromise which in Lincoln’s own writing said that he would free some all or none of the slaves to keep the union together !!!!! Doesn’t sound to much like that was top priority but holding the union together was !!!!!! And as far as the rebels go they ask them why they were fighting and their answer was cause y’all down here !!!!most didn’t own a slave only the wealthy Democrat, plantation owners did !!!! So what it sounds like is a little more diplomacy on both sides could have prevented this war !!!! Remember everything that was in this country at that time was originally brought here from somewhere else !!!! Wasn’t invented here but was used here and everybody back then were racist black white red brown didn’t matter!!!! No where else in the world did it take a war to end slavery it was on the way out on its own !!!! With the modern revolution and the invention of machines it was just a matter of time !!!!! That’s what happened in the rest of the world !!! Oh but where it all originated from the cradle of Society as they say in Africa it’s still practiced till this day unfortunately!!!!! The great pyramids were built by slaves in Egypt !!!! And no an Egyptian is not a white man but the slaves were Jews who were white so as you can plainly tell there are no innocent races of man kind no where there’s enough blame to go around for all people cause we are all guilty!!!! Like Elon Musk told Don Lemon that we were all slaves at one time are the other it was just a matter of when and I might add by who !!!!! All you had to be was weak and conquer to be a slave !!!! And most were spoils of war !!!! From the Zulus in Africa and the Ivory Coast to the shores of America it was all about power and money that’s all !!!!! We are just indentured servants to the government now the very thing our forefathers fought against back then !!!! They tried to tell us well here we are right back where we started !!!!! How sad you would think we would have learned by now what not to do but I guess not !!!!!
@jimmyanderson2988 You mentioned several points with what seems to be much emotion but no facts. I would like to compare some of your points with actual facts. This war was inevitable from the country's concept because all settled for a disagreement on slavery and way of life. Secession had been discussed or threatened back when Pres. Zachary Taylor wouldn't allow California to enter the union as a slave state. Taylor threatened to hang them if they even tried beginning with his son-in-law Jeff Davis. First, you cite Elon Musk as SME on slaves and yes it seems most, if not all, peoples were slaves at one time or another but I think you could have found a better reference for your point. Because, though so many peoples have been enslaved, NONE were ever enslaved by folks that called themselves CHRISTIANS. By teachings, Christians aren't allowed to have slaves or treat others as less than themselves, This slavery practice breaks all tenets of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ teaches that we are all the same thus the church had to find some way to declare peoples as "enemies of Christ" and therefore could be held into perpetuity, and this was all done for money, which is one of the reasons catholicism and individual popes became so wealthy. There were clergy on every ship to the New World to keep account of the pope's share of the booty. So usually when people complained about slavery it was due to reasons of immorality and not love for the slaves. The adage goes: "the church went to the people with only the bible and said close your eyes and let us pray, when the people opened their eyes the church had their land and the people only had the bible." Secondly, the USA is sovereign over all its' territories EXCEPT the original 13 states. This means that when the other states seceded, those states ( i.e. Alabama Territory, Florida Territory, etc.) reverted back to the original territories, the jurisdiction of the US Marshall Service and always the property of the people of the USA . Those southern people either willingly or though trickery were bamboozled by their southern lords into giving up their US citizenship, state's right and property rights. Imagine Bill Gates buys Montana and declares it his own separate country? It don't work like that. Therefore FL, AL, MS, TN. LA, AR and TX CANNOT just take US land and become another country, the main issue of the war was that the CSA was stealing US land and slavery was just an incidental consequence. Those folks (former citizens) who's answer was "cause y’all down here !!!!" had no rights (land or otherwise) through their own actions or lack of actions and were trying to steal US land just as Texas had done to Mexico not even a generation prior. So do your own research to get the facts and not rely on flippant comments made by some arrogant someone with their own agenda
Ron: I really appreciate the fact that in most of your videos you cite the souces you're reading from. Respectfully, W.S.
George Steuart was exchanged and commanded a brigade under George Pickett. He and many of his men were captured on April 1, 1865 at five Forks Virginia.
So he was captured twice during the war
Thank you!!! Very informative and interesting!
I enjoy your channel very much, thank you.
BG George Steuart commanded a mixed NC/VA brigade in 2nd Corps. MG Edward Johnson was his division commander. Johnson's division was destroyed at the "Bloody Angle".
Hard to imagine the psychological impact treating all the wounded of the Wilderness…
Those CSA prisoners of the Mule Shoe had seen more than enough of the elephant(s) of war… yet despite it all the debates of politics held firm.
Fascinating times indeed.
As to the photo- is AJB wearing a glove?
Thanks as always
The eloquence of the words and writings of the men and soldiers of that time is always astounding to me. North and south alike. Almost sounds like poetry the way they wrote and spoke. Learned and stern and forthright. And in almost every case, true. They wrote what they saw, thought, and felt because it impacted them that much. Even decades later they would recount the events as if they had just happened. Something that large couldn’t have affected them in any other way I would imagine. How could they forget? Amazing. Thank you for your work. These videos are the delight of my lunch break. I look forward to more from you and this channel. Thanks again. Back to the heat.
Deo Vindice
Appreciate the kind words!
@@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail appreciate you sir. Immensely. I can never get enough of the Civil War. Ever since I was a kid I’ve been drawn to it like a moth to flame. You help feed my desire for knowledge of that time period. Always interesting. Always informative. Impartial. Telling both sides with respect. Giving perspectives and insights into people and aspects I hadn’t even known about or thought of researching. I will continue to be eager to hear what story or event you speak on next. Thank you again. More more more please. Much appreciation to you and whoever else may be behind the scenes. Can’t wait til tomorrow.
They wrote that way because their minds had not been rotted by idiotic television shows, ridiculous video games, endless online drivel, and a hundred other "advances" of today's world. Also I suspect their education (and their respect for their teachers and other elders) far surpassed anything to be found today.
How do I contact you? Have some interesting stuff on ssheridan, Beauregard and my great, Great grandfather
Best is email: militaryimages@gmail.com
Hi, Ron, This was yet another very interesting video. Thank you for taking the time to produce it!
I was under the impression that Confederate used a tiered officer rank system. In this particular case, colonels wore three stars on their collars while general officers wore three stars surrounded by a wreath. (The confederates general officer insignia did not differentiate between the five general officer ranks.). We all know General Lee wore a colonels uniform most of the time. How would the sanitary commission fellow know the confederate was a general, let alone a brigadier general, since they were the same?
I am just quibbling but these possible inconsistencies seem to catch my attention.
As always, keep up the great work!!!
Karl
Yes, the collar insignia for colonels and brigadiers is exactly as you describe. Bloor writes how it was hard to tell who was an officer and who was not, but that some prisoners had turned their collars to reveal their rank. Bloor does not mention how he became aware of them. It is easy to imagine that word traveled by mouth that captured generals were part of the larger group. It is also easy to imagine they were maybe treated differently due to their high rank, which drew attention to them.
Makes perfect sense that word of captured generals traveled fast. Thanks Ron!
It is interesting that the relationship between prisoners and those that captured them of the Civil War were pretty cordial! The caputers did not abuse their prisoners initually when they were first captured in any way and the prisoners could even have political arguments with their captures without fear of being hurt! This is unlike many other wars where prisoners were abused and prisoners were terrified to even open their mouths to their captures for fear of being punished or worse! I know that once prisoners were placed in the actual prisons conditions were very bad for prisoners within the actual prison!
Black soldiers were not " murdered " at Fort Pillow. They were battle casualties . You can not fire your gun, throw up your hands and shout I give up , then run and pick up another gun and fire it at your opponent possibly killing some of them etc etc etc and claim that you were shot after surrendering. Also , when you commit numerous atrocities against the surrounding citizens and steal all their clothing and livestock so they can not survive the brutal winter you engender animosity that down not help things.
Charles, you are living in a fantasy world. I bet you’re a Trump supporter. Take a look at the three books that I mentioned below and read them and let me know what you think.
@@brycesuderow3576TDS rears it's ugly head. So childish.
@@brycesuderow3576 Lol look in the mirror if you want to see what someone living in fantasy world look like.. The soldiers of fort pillow were surrounded, outnumbered, outgunned, and pinned down, their situation was hopeless, there were offered generous terms of surrender. They refused to surrender and decided to try and fight on... they effed around and found out.
@@brycesuderow3576 well you must be a Biden supporter ! Nothing to brag about there and He is just racist as those your trying to attack ! He was for seragation and ork wirh dem who was a KKK member ! Research before you talk !
@@brycesuderow3576haha! I knew you were a lousy democrat! Facts matter not to you fools!
Your Wrong on The Murder of Soldiers at Fort Pillow.. Popular Victor History.
IMHO
Nathan Bedford forest had 42 black body guard soldiers around him at all times and was in many battles with right by his side !!! He said best damn soldiers he ever rode with !! I think all but one stayed with him after the war!!!! And yes he did join the kkk in the beginning because there was no law of the land after the war but became disenfranchised with them after he seen what they were doing !!!! In later years he actually spoke up for the black man and even spoke at one of their conventions !!!!! And when he died there was over a thousand black folks showed up at his funeral!!!! Need to do you some more research before you go to talking about something you obviously know little about !!!!
Correct, sir. Much misinformation about Forrest.
Just one more exmaple of lost cause fiction. Forrest was careful in the way he characterized these men. They were not at any time referred to as soldiers. Forrest was paid by the Confederate government for the slaves that rode with him. These black men were impressed enslaved men forced into the CSA army, as property, hired out by Forrest to the confederacy Their legal status never changed from enslaved men to free men during the course of the War of the Rebellion..
U can’t argue with a ignorant Yankee
Please see the attached link. It's a research paper based on the official records of Forrest' s actions, and other Confederate sources. NBF did have 2 black soldiers in his personal guard. It also says that it was Confederate policy to execute captured black federal soldiers. It took me 5 minutes to find this.
@jimmyanderson2988 Spreading more B/S are you? Where did you get this information can you cite a reference? Sounds like 42 men with no job prospects and maybe in fear of their lives and families surrounded NBF. What or who was he afraid of? Why did he need bodyguards? Did he even pay them? When you heard this story, did logic suggest that there may be more to it than just face value? Or was this merely something that sounded good and went with what you'd like to hear? This man was the biggest thief of the Civil War, a raider who came out of the war 10 times richer than he went in all made in TN and MS. Bragg fired him for acting like "Angel Eyes" from the movie and not doing his true job - recon, but Jeff Davis brought him back as a Corps Commander for the money. Please cite your reference so I may research - Thanks
As far as I know, there is nothing in the Constitution about the right to secede. It is simply assumed by the party that wants to do so. So I guess we just fight it out, as we did with Great Britain, and as the Confederacy did with the United States.... and see who wins.
Or we could just divorce amicably.
“As far as I know-“ First, I’m not telling. The Constitution isn’t that long. I suggest that reading it might be in order. One thing that amuses me through the years are the number of rights some people assume are somehow included in the Constitution. I think it’s well over a thousand, and the number increases daily.
“-and see who wins.” As with 1865, where it’s hard to say who won the war, my estimate would be “nobody.”
@mencken8 well the way our system is set up, the constitution does not "list rights". It simply lists specific things the government may NOT do. The theory is, if something is not specifically listed in the Constitition, the government may not do it, or it's up to the states.
If a State votes to join the union , it can vote out ! In constitution it states no power listed in it is forever in power of state !
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 you are 100% correct !
Well there you go now you know what the war was about two people can read the same thing and come up with two different view points and that’s what happened!!!! Lincoln’s main goal was to save the union and one of his offers to the southern states to try and keep them in the union was called the great compromise which in Lincoln’s own writing said that he would free some all or none of the slaves to keep the union together !!!!! Doesn’t sound to much like that was top priority but holding the union together was !!!!!! And as far as the rebels go they ask them why they were fighting and their answer was cause y’all down here !!!!most didn’t own a slave only the wealthy Democrat, plantation owners did !!!! So what it sounds like is a little more diplomacy on both sides could have prevented this war !!!! Remember everything that was in this country at that time was originally brought here from somewhere else !!!! Wasn’t invented here but was used here and everybody back then were racist black white red brown didn’t matter!!!! No where else in the world did it take a war to end slavery it was on the way out on its own !!!! With the modern revolution and the invention of machines it was just a matter of time !!!!! That’s what happened in the rest of the world !!! Oh but where it all originated from the cradle of Society as they say in Africa it’s still practiced till this day unfortunately!!!!! The great pyramids were built by slaves in Egypt !!!! And no an Egyptian is not a white man but the slaves were Jews who were white so as you can plainly tell there are no innocent races of man kind no where there’s enough blame to go around for all people cause we are all guilty!!!! Like Elon Musk told Don Lemon that we were all slaves at one time are the other it was just a matter of when and I might add by who !!!!! All you had to be was weak and conquer to be a slave !!!! And most were spoils of war !!!! From the Zulus in Africa and the Ivory Coast to the shores of America it was all about power and money that’s all !!!!! We are just indentured servants to the government now the very thing our forefathers fought against back then !!!! They tried to tell us well here we are right back where we started !!!!! How sad you would think we would have learned by now what not to do but I guess not !!!!!
A disgrace to the great state of Maryland. Will not repeat his name. Thanks for the videos!
Whose name?
maybe your a disgrace to state of maryland !
@@philmccracken7520 most in my family and others would agree with you sir but I'm loyal to the union 🇺🇸 unlike the captured general from Maryland.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 the captured confederate general from Maryland
@@historyandhorseplaying7374Perhaps the name of Gen. George H. Steuart? (Gen. Steuart's father also fought for freedom, only in the Revolutionary War.) He was swapped back to the South.
charlesbelser7249 I must disagree with your questionable claim that black soldiers were not murdered. First, Nathan Bedford Forest is notorious as founder of the Ku Klux Klan. I believe he also owned slaves. To him blacks were just property. Your alleged description of what happened to these soldiers appears to denigrate their performance on the battlefield.
he offered the officer at Fort Pillow to surrender , the commander didn't was killed and 2nd in command faked a second truce when forrest again gave him 30 mins to surrender ! Now it fact Forrest had captured both white Tennessee union troops and even black union troopers and sent them to Prisoner of war camp ! The first and 2nd commander at FT pillow should had surrender ! Period !
you know Forrest told US Congress that he had 40 slaves he took with him to war and called them the finest men that served him , they saved his life 3 times ! 2x at FT pillow and once at battle Selma and after the war 31 went to work for him after war !
When I entered the army I took forty-seven Negroes into the army with me, and forty-five of them were surrendered with me. I said to them at the start: ‘This fight is against slavery; if we lose it, you will be made free; if we whip in the fight, and if you stay with me and be good boys, I will set you free. In either case you will be free. Those boys stayed with me, drove my teams, and better confederates did not live.
and you should read on his speech he gave at On July 5, 1875, Forrest gave a speech before the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association ( that was Pre- NAACP).
# 1, it is pretty much suggested amongst thoughtful historians that Ft Pillow was heavily embellished; # 2, Forrest was NOT the founder of the Klan. Do your due diligence.
Politically in correct. 😅
Well there you go now you know what the war was about two people can read the same thing and come up with two different view points and that’s what happened!!!! Lincoln’s main goal was to save the union and one of his offers to the southern states to try and keep them in the union was called the great compromise which in Lincoln’s own writing said that he would free some all or none of the slaves to keep the union together !!!!! Doesn’t sound to much like that was top priority but holding the union together was !!!!!! And as far as the rebels go they ask them why they were fighting and their answer was cause y’all down here !!!!most didn’t own a slave only the wealthy Democrat, plantation owners did !!!! So what it sounds like is a little more diplomacy on both sides could have prevented this war !!!! Remember everything that was in this country at that time was originally brought here from somewhere else !!!! Wasn’t invented here but was used here and everybody back then were racist black white red brown didn’t matter!!!! No where else in the world did it take a war to end slavery it was on the way out on its own !!!! With the modern revolution and the invention of machines it was just a matter of time !!!!! That’s what happened in the rest of the world !!! Oh but where it all originated from the cradle of Society as they say in Africa it’s still practiced till this day unfortunately!!!!! The great pyramids were built by slaves in Egypt !!!! And no an Egyptian is not a white man but the slaves were Jews who were white so as you can plainly tell there are no innocent races of man kind no where there’s enough blame to go around for all people cause we are all guilty!!!! Like Elon Musk told Don Lemon that we were all slaves at one time are the other it was just a matter of when and I might add by who !!!!! All you had to be was weak and conquer to be a slave !!!! And most were spoils of war !!!! From the Zulus in Africa and the Ivory Coast to the shores of America it was all about power and money that’s all !!!!! We are just indentured servants to the government now the very thing our forefathers fought against back then !!!! They tried to tell us well here we are right back where we started !!!!! How sad you would think we would have learned by now what not to do but I guess not !!!!!
@jimmyanderson2988 You mentioned several points with what seems to be much emotion but no facts. I would like to compare some of your points with actual facts. This war was inevitable from the country's concept because all settled for a disagreement on slavery and way of life. Secession had been discussed or threatened back when Pres. Zachary Taylor wouldn't allow California to enter the union as a slave state. Taylor threatened to hang them if they even tried beginning with his son-in-law Jeff Davis.
First, you cite Elon Musk as SME on slaves and yes it seems most, if not all, peoples were slaves at one time or another but I think you could have found a better reference for your point. Because, though so many peoples have been enslaved, NONE were ever enslaved by folks that called themselves CHRISTIANS. By teachings, Christians aren't allowed to have slaves or treat others as less than themselves, This slavery practice breaks all tenets of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ teaches that we are all the same thus the church had to find some way to declare peoples as "enemies of Christ" and therefore could be held into perpetuity, and this was all done for money, which is one of the reasons catholicism and individual popes became so wealthy. There were clergy on every ship to the New World to keep account of the pope's share of the booty. So usually when people complained about slavery it was due to reasons of immorality and not love for the slaves. The adage goes: "the church went to the people with only the bible and said close your eyes and let us pray, when the people opened their eyes the church had their land and the people only had the bible."
Secondly, the USA is sovereign over all its' territories EXCEPT the original 13 states. This means that when the other states seceded, those states ( i.e. Alabama Territory, Florida Territory, etc.) reverted back to the original territories, the jurisdiction of the US Marshall Service and always the property of the people of the USA . Those southern people either willingly or though trickery were bamboozled by their southern lords into giving up their US citizenship, state's right and property rights. Imagine Bill Gates buys Montana and declares it his own separate country? It don't work like that. Therefore FL, AL, MS, TN. LA, AR and TX CANNOT just take US land and become another country, the main issue of the war was that the CSA was stealing US land and slavery was just an incidental consequence. Those folks (former citizens) who's answer was "cause y’all down here !!!!" had no rights (land or otherwise) through their own actions or lack of actions and were trying to steal US land just as Texas had done to Mexico not even a generation prior.
So do your own research to get the facts and not rely on flippant comments made by some arrogant someone with their own agenda