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I think Michael Seneschal might be onto something in that the 8GB RAM might be one of the limiting factors. Furthermore, with the fan spinning all the time it makes me think that the Macbook might need cleaning of the Macbook and reapplication of the thermal paste. I understand not everyone might be tech savvy enough to do a proper thermal paste cleaning / re-pasting but it would NOT be surprising if that (along with 8GB RAM) might be contributing factors for the less than desirable outcome. Just some food for thought.
Fun fact: The performance of the 2018 Air is actually a fair bit worse than the 2017 model as it has to constantly render 2x as many pixels due to the Retina display. My old 2017 Air wasn't great but it wasn't as bad as the one in this vid haha
Been using a 2018 MacBook Pro from work. Constantly running Figma, protopie, adobe CC (mostly indesign, illustrator, photoshop, lightroom and after effects), Final Cut; I’m doing A LOT of creative work. That thing was constantly chugging. Just got an M2 pro and my god what a difference.
Me too, I also do indesign etc, the 2018 one barely can handle anything, it gets worse when external monitor connected, I had to lower resolution to complete works.
For everyone thinking something is wrong with the eBay macbook Air, it is because you haven't tried the M series computer yet. After you get used to new apple Silicon laptops, everything else just feels extremely slow, including the highest end gaming pc you can possibly build. The M series feels so responsive, just like using high-end phone, everything opens fast and responsive. I have a 2019 Macbook Pro i9 32GB Ram,512GB storage and a new Macbook Air M1 13" base model feels so much faster just doing regular tasks
Yeah I had a 2018 air for a few years, felt like it was broken and I thought I got scammed for the first year of ownership before I used a family members 2019 air and it felt the same lol.
Totally understand some of the creativity issues with an "older" laptop - but besides my current M1 Mac mini, I use a 2015 MacBook Pro - for almost all tasks (including sending emails, etc for work) the two computers respond exactly the same with none of the lag you mention. Granted - I could not perform any of the creative tasks you showed were hampered (useless on the intel) on my 2015 MacBook Pro - so I agree with you there. However, for most mundane tasks, a older MacBook is perfectly fine.
Absolutely, on my MacBook Air 2018 everyday tasks run perfectly. But I am on Mojave, plus maybe he running screen recording - it’s overload CPU/GPU massively on Air 2018, but anyone doing this.
Agree with you. As a science student, my Macbook Pro Retina 2015 inch having 16GB ram is more than enough for daily use, even opening many applications (word and excel, mainly, and some statistical software) and hundreds of safari/chrome tabs. Light Photoshop editing is just fine.
it's crazy how maligned they were. Unless you're a serious power user, i don't know anyone who uses the function strip regularly. OTOH I use the touchbar to scrub videos, text prediction, change songs/language totally customizable. I'm going to miss using that. The butterfly, as well (i have a late 2018 model) has not been an issue for me either. I hate how squishy and unstable the scissor switches they reverted to feel in comparison. I don't use any dust covers, and I haven't had any problems with double registers at all. The technology may have needed to mature, but in a few ways, I think my macbook looks and feels newer/nicer than the newer apple silicon models Also, freaking bootcamp. Emulation/virtualization software has not gotten close to what I need and there are simply programs that you just straight up need windows for. No matter how much they tried to push rosetta 2, and the gaming porting kit, it hasn't taken off and most games and programs still need native windows to run properly.
I love the butterfly keyboard, but the sticky keys are an issue. Just hours before typing this comment, I got the space bar stuck, and I had a panic attack, as this is my primary machine.
They really should've kept the Touch Bar a long side the function keys on the newer generation Macs, and also putting them on the non pros to encourage developers to add features for the Touch Bar. While they're not utilized to their full potential, as someone who uses a Touch Bar MBP it's such a nice thing to have in some use cases, especially being able to skip ADs on TH-cam lol
While I'm sure the performance jump between Intel and Apple Silicon is huge, for that laptop it shouldn't be so huge, so I suspect there might be something wrong with that specific machine.
Yeah! It definitely seems that what he wants is to make us use those purchase links for the MacBook Pro M2 and M3. I have been a Mac user since 2000 and I currently have a 2020 MacBook Pro with Intel that works incredibly well for editing video in DaVinci, FinalCut, the Adobe Suite works incredibly well for me, maybe it just doesn't work for gaming, but for that I have a PS5 console (which is made for that and I can still play with RemotePlay from the same macbook) In short, you have to live on something, right? click bait becomes a priority over being objective
the actual difference between m1 air and even the 2020 air was quite noticeable in terms of battery life and ofc the performance, at the time it totally blew me away coz a base m1 MacBook air was able to keep up with the 16 inch MacBook Pro with i9 in most workflows that weren't dependent upon gpu performance
Sadly, though it is, if you have both systems, you can tell how extremely fast M Chip laptops are. Apple M1 laptop works just like high end Phone, apps open quickly, and everything is smooth. After using the new laptop, my regular Windows computer all feel slow
Some of those tasks may be doable on apple silicon MBA's, but there's no way you're going to edit 4k on a 2018 MBA lol. And maybe 2 or 3 apps are okay, but having 5-7 apps running is of course going to slow down a 5 year old computer significantly.
Interesting video! I was kinda surprised by how performance-lacking you found that 2018 MBA to be, although I suspect that Apple intentionally nerfed the performance of the last generation of Intel MacBooks to make their M-series Macs seem a lot faster by comparison. I'm fairly convinced that there is something wrong with that Mac, however, since it shouldn't perform so poorly. I'm still rolling a late-2013 15" MBP i7-4850QH 16GB of RAM with 2GB Nvidia discreet graphics here as my daily driver. Even though this old Mac is no longer supported by Apple, I'm still holding out on moving up to something newer since it still runs the apps I need and has some life left in it thanks to the OCLP project. It sure can't work with 4K video or HDR content but works for my photo editing and online work and isn't a complete slouch -- it even seems much faster than the 18'Air in the video. Of course, I will have to upgrade when Apple finally ditches all Intel support at the end of the transition period. Where it does fall flat on its face is with the very limited battery life, although being able to slap a 2TB NVMe drive in it is still a strong point.
While only Apple knows the real answer we can look at the way things stand and speculate. The 2019 Mac Pro is the only remaining product line that is Intel-based. It is expected we will see a new M-Series Mac Pro unveiled at this years WWDC23 event, or, perhaps a Special Event later in the year. It’ll then be on sale before the year is out and the Intel Mac withdrawn from sale at the same time. So late 2023 to early 2024 will see the hardware transition complete. As far as software support goes we can only guess. MacOS 15 (late 2024) will may be the last major revision to run on any Intel Mac with all support for security updates for those supported Intel Macs ending 2 years later in 2026. This will then complete the entire transition.
I have an M1 Mac Mini, and also a 2018 Intel i5 with 16GB of RAM and I bounce between both of them depending on my location. Final Cut, Pixelmator, Capture One, all work fine on both setups. The 2018 MacBook is a little slower, but nothing prohibitive. Note that I definitely single-task… but that’s my preferred way of working regardless of computer (single-task focus). I think the issues you’re having are due to 8GB of RAM and running many apps at the same time.
hello i actually want to buy an intel macbook 2019 i9 2.4 ghz right now but i'm worried because everyone are telling me that's a great laptop but it has heating problem. Are you having this problem with your old laptop? and i know that with Ventura now the problem is more resolvable or not?
@@hmombius2717 Realistically, if there was a heating problem, Apple would have issued a recall. Any references to a heating problem are directly related to the internet being dramatic.
I'm using a 2016 Macbook pro 13" and the performace is still okay. I use it to for large pixel designs, motion graphics and not very much of video editing, mostly 1080p. It still handles tasks quite fairly, except for the battery life and how warm it gets when rendering.
@@JerrySchulze I wish there was a way for us to upgrade the internals in these later model MacBooks such as the SSD & RAM. I purchased a 2012 MacBook Pro recently as a project. Upgraded the internals & it is really fast!
I have an M3 pro 16 and also a 2015 pro with retina display, when I switch for everyday tasks, youtube, safari etc, I don’t see any major difference. I think your specific machine has something wrong, also maybe because you went to an air from m2 max. But believe it or not the late 2015 pro is not laggy at basic tasks and opens the safari web page as expected
my man is editing high quality videos on a macbook air which wasn't even meant to do it in the first place, and now hes doing it 5 years later. a 2020 intel macbook pro would've been a fairer comparison. pointless.
@@JerrySchulze You still didn’t get the point. The MacBook Air wasn’t made for this Pro video editing environment in the first place. What is the point then to use a 5 year old air and trying to struggle it thought such high quality footage, when it clearly isn’t meant for such tasks. Again, If you said you were going to use it for your work flow, you should have maybe tried comparing with a MacBook Pro from that time or something at least. I don’t want to argue with you, because I have watched you other videos and I enjoy them. I was trying to make a point that if you are choosing to switch back to an Intel MacBook for your work flow, atleast try with an Intel MacBook Pro. The air was useless for such tasks in 2018 itself. What was the point of putting it through such misery 5 years later as well and saying it’s not going to work for your work flow.
Personally, I loved the butterfly keyboard, I did not love the issues with it, thought. My typing speed was much higher, over time I have gotten used to the click-clack of the M1 16". You did, most likely, run into slowness due to SSD speed and maybe lack of memory. We have upgraded, in the household, to M1, and I am getting ready for an upgrade to M2 for my work laptop (upgrade from M1 MBPro 13.3" to 16" is going to a game changer for me). These MBAs are great for web browsing and for light work, like for at home, which they were always meant for.
there is 100% something wrong with that MacBook lol my 2013 MacBook Air with unsupported Sonoma opens apps way faster and no lag on docs at all. I don't edit videos but ya my old MacBook Air runs amazing in 2023
I really didn’t understand why did you picked up a base model MacBook Air to compare against your new MacBook Pro? At least you should have picked up a 13” MacBook Pro or the 2019 16” MacBook Pro with i9 that would have been a fair comparison imo.
I have a 2018 MBA same specs just a 256gb and while I don't edit videos, mine is not that slow opening things. I play steam games and while that makes the fan spin all the way up it doesn't lag. idk I think something may have been wrong with yours. mine isn't that slow
This is the base model, of a 6 year old computer. No wonder it’s not fast. My dad still uses one of these for work and personal use with no complaints however.
personally, I have the 16" MacBook Pro with Intel Core I7, and I do love this machine despite the changed motherboard twice not within the warranty period 🥲 800$, but for this money you can't buy something better from Apple in 16-inch size :)
I recently started using my 2016 13" MacBook Pro and it holds up to daily common use with my 13" M1 MacBook Air. There is no comparison when rendering graphics but it doesn't feel as unusable as yours did in the video.
Thanks for the video! I replaced my old MacBook with a Mac Studio last year and I wondered if for these few days a year a laptop would be handy if I could get by with an older model. I guess the answer is no - or at least I should not get this model. 🙂
I have a 2015 model MacBook Pro 15 inch. I agree with your comments on the video editing etc but for everything else i find it perfectly fine, the same for my iMac 2014 model. It’s only 4k video editing that slows it down for me.
hello, I have a question, which Intel-based Macbook Pro can I buy, and like good old days open the back cover and upgrade the RAM and Storage, and maximum how much RAM can I put and also instead of a Hard drive can I put SSD?
how did you do this and is 4k editing still possible withoout issues? looking to buy a refurbished ones for 4k iphone editing, has the heating issue been fixed? i9 thanks
On Mojave my Air 2018 works much much better. For example Google Docs opened up two/three times faster and no lag when typing. Glad, that i am not updated to the newer MacOS! And i dont hearing fan almost 100% of time, only when run Cinebench, when installing programs.
Your machine has some sort of issue for sure, loading pages on my base 2018 air was always fine when I had it, using an external hdd you should leave over 50 percent of your laptop hdd free and that would likely help. Editing 4k video I have done but just shut down your other apps while you do it. I think this machine is better than the video shows it to be.
Hi Jerry, It's great to see how things have evolved over time! I did want to share some feedback, though. I personally prefer a more minimalistic style and found the transitions between shots to be a bit distracting and annoying. Of course, this is just my opinion, and I understand that everyone has different preferences.
I still use my 2013 21.5” i5 iMac, 2020 27” Intel i9 iMac, & I use my 2021 16” M1 Max MBP on the go. My MacBook’s better for video editing. My 27” iMac is better for music production. Both seem the same. Performance is still very good. I boot off external NMVe drives with SK Hynix & Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD’s with both. My 21.5” iMac is still great because I put a new SSD drive & added the max amount of RAM but can’t handle heavy, heavy Logic Pro or Final Cut . Intel MacBook Air’s are good for using internet only. Ultimately you should know by now that old Intel MacBook’s suck.
My Windows Laptop that has lower tier CPU (new 11th gen of 2020), same RAM size, bigger SSD Capacity, run just fine with some minor errors. And so far so good or maybe my Laptop is more optimized or what
Still rocking my old 13" MBA that you were using. Happy I'll be upgrading to a M1 Pro 14" MBP in the upcoming days as my first Apple Silicone device, I'm sure it'll be a night and day difference.
Taking a OS from another system no matter what it is always going to come with some issues mostly drivers that at not the same. So bugs is pretty normal.
You are trying a software and hardware which is designed for planned obsolescence. Try with the OS that originally came with old Air you will be happy.
Hey Chris, I used premiere pro for this video and I know you mentioned in yours the other day you use premiere. Overall it was ok but I def prefer fcp.
you know apple slows down their os's to force you to go to the newest one right? like I have my 2015 with Mojve. it's still fast as hell. but of course.. my asus is the fastest machine I have. because intel sucks XD I got amd now.
Fun fact: watching Jerry in this video saying "the fans are going nuts" while my fans are going nuts too😂 I'm still using the 2018 Air; it has been perfect for my needs, but now it has become really annoying: even watching TH-cam videos is pretty laggy! I'm trying to decide whether to buy a 15" Air or go crazier with the 14" Pro. 👋👋
in all due respect, this video is a very awful way to compare intel vs m2. you choose the least powerful intel macbook from the butterfly keyboard era, and compared it to a macbook pro M2... i would like to see how this would be done with say a 2019/2018 macbook pro with at least a core i7 and a bit bigger internal storage, not 128gb!!! I have a 2015 macbook pro with a quad core i7, and even that is more powerful than a 2018 macbook air with a dual core i5.
I will probably use my intel mac (2018) and run it into the ground. Probably anti everything that apple changed on the last gen mbp. Unless you're a serious power user, i don't know anyone who uses the function strip regularly. OTOH I use the touchbar to scrub videos, text prediction, change songs/language totally customizable. I'm going to miss using that. The butterfly, as well (i have a late 2018 model) has not been an issue for me either. I hate how squishy and unstable the scissor switches they reverted to feel in comparison. I don't use any dust covers, and I haven't had any problems with double registers at all. The technology may have needed to mature, but in a few ways, I think my macbook looks and feels newer/nicer than the newer apple silicon models. The new ones feel cheaper and ugly Also, freaking bootcamp. Emulation/virtualization software has not gotten close to what I need and there are simply programs that you just straight up need windows for. No matter how much they tried to push rosetta 2, and the gaming porting kit, it hasn't taken off and most games and programs still need native windows to run properly.
Pointless video. I don't feel this comparison is fair or appropriate in any way: a 14" MacBook Pro can't be compared with an Intel MacBook Air 2019, which was an entry-level device designed for one-core daily tasks (and it's still fine for that, I got one of this besides my MBA M1 2020). A much more interesting comparison would be between a MBP 14" and MBP 15" from 2018 (both of them were conceived for video editors like you). And that argument leads me to my second gripe with this video (with almost 80 % of tech youtubbers, actually): bro, the vast majority of us watcher don't do video-editing and don't care about that. And that doesn't translate into a 'light' use case, whatever that means: I don't do video-editing with my M1 MBA and sometimes this (otherwise amazing) device struggles to keep up with my work.
@@JerrySchulze you’re trying to see if an entry level Intel MBA from 2018 with 128 GB SSD, Intel Core i5, and 8 GB of RAM can handle your workload in comparison to a M2 MAX Mac Pro. C’mon man. You could’ve used a more powerful and speced out Intel MBP from 2018. This video was pointless as the original commenter stated. And please don’t be like other TH-camrs who delete comments that don’t agree with the content of the video.
Definitely something wrong with that machine. I also have a 2019 Macbook Air (16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD) and while it's noticeably worse than my 14" M1 Pro MBP, I've nowhere as bad as I'm seeing in this video. (apps bouncing ad nauseam and not even opening, several seconds lag while typing ? come on.. ). Yes, the fans do pick up quickly, and you can hear them, but this is easily mitigated by running the laptop in "Low Power Mode" which btw. does not nerf the performance at all (e.g. it caps the peak CPU speed from 3.5 GHz to about 2.8, but by doing this, the sustained multicore performance is actually a bit better, as it does not thermal throttle as easily).
p.s.: and to be fair, fan is not even audible like most of the time, during light stuff like watching youtube videos, or browsing the web. Running on the latest updates ./ Ventura.
Hi Jerry, I’m a new subscriber but I’ve watched a number of your videos. I know this video is “2 weeks” old at this point, but I’d appreciate any advice you can give, as I have only a couple of days left to return a Mac to Apple for a full refund. I’m coming from a 2012 13” inch non-retina MacBook Pro hooked up to a Thunderbolt Display, and a 2010 27” iMac. I do graphic and web design work, some screencast video work for clients and a lot of very large spreadsheet work managing e-commerce datasets. After a long deliberation of what new Apple Silicon Mac to buy, and on the strength of two of your videos from last summer, on April 1 (perhaps foolishly 😊) I decided to buy an Apple refurbished 2020 27” Intel iMac, 16GB/2TB, i7, 5500XT with 10GbE, for about a 40% discount. Great machine, but given that it’s 2023, I’m wondering if I made a mistake, and should instead get a refurbished M2 MacBook Air 8C/10G, 24GB/1TB, for $200 less than the iMac, though hooked up to my Thunderbolt Display, with a couple of extra dongles for now, and a monitor mount for Continuity Camera. I’ll need a laptop for remote work this summer, (I painfully used my 2012 for the same work last summer) but I’d want the new one to only be a secondary machine afterwards, and still have desktop, maybe an M2 Max Studio if it comes out. I only have the budget for one machine right now though. Or should I keep the Intel iMac (for 6 or 7 years) and stretch a bit more to get a lower spec M1 MBA as well? 🤷♂️ A bit of FOMO either way. Thanks for your informative videos, and for any advice you can give.
100% I would return and get a refurb M2 or even an M1 MacBook Pro 14 or 16. You will be happier in the long run. For the display, I dont have experience trying to get the old TB display to work so it may be tricky. Honestly, unless you want a separate desktop computer for some reason, the MacBook Pro is probably more than enough. Good luck.
I am a programmer i own macbook pro 2019 i5 8th gen 500 gb variant i have no issues in launching applications like IntelliJ IDEA and npm management console Docker desktop jenkins server Everything runs flawless fans aren’t blasting loud, no lag or heating issues unless you use it on a flat desk I work in Non air conditioned environment so Macbook pro 13 inch i5 16 gb Ram with 500 gb is worth having it after 4 years Battery cycle count on 651 can squeeze the energy for 6 hours
So you love getting new MacBooks do you. Let tell mate so do i but the difference between you and me is, That’s right you guessed it MONEY TH-cam must be a very lucrative business is that why you want us nobodies to subscribe all the time???????
2018 macbook air 8gb ram 128gb ssd (bed) 2022 macbook air 16gb ram 512gb ssd (on the go) i3 12100f 32gb ram rtx 2060 super 1tb m.2 980 pro my m2 laptop is in my bag 5 feet away from me. in bed atm so i. on m. 2018 air the apps what i have open is chrome firefox micosoft remote desktop spoitfly. i also do have photoshop open with a 12k file open atm the min so my fan is going a little but and i seeing a little bit of. alag i think my laptop is downloading a macos update aswell just close photo shop 2 secs a ago so the lag have stop fully i can type as fast i want and it wont lag. i use the 2018 air mainly for You tube twitch google drive (netfliex ....) i do find safrai to be laggy but chrome and firefox is not laggy at all. broke my m2 air last year need a laptop for temp used when. i. got that fix (stud on the screen) so i gotton this one july 2022 since then i just used this laptop in bed would. ireccomend the 2018 air yes and no depends what you trying to used it for just watchen video then yes it handle 4k playback no problemwould i reccomend it for school work yes as a chrome book can do that but with a mac you. get a full desktop os for stuff like office even 4k photoshop works if you dont mind a little bit of lag I did hug up this laptop to a 4k tv to bin watch an anime ran like it would smothly video was not choppy would i reccomend this for stuff what i use my m2 for photo shop 12k project file lightroom classic 30-50 photos no i would not reccomend my m2 for that because all i paid for really with the m2 air was the newdisgn and a little bit faster profomese over the m1 and that would of handle my work flow profect the phone what i using now is the s23+ in raw mode unless i know i dont care about the colours that much on a hoto i posting. if you going do seriose work i would reccomend a pc or a higher end mac. OUTCOME DEPENDS ON YOUR NEEDS BEING NOT DEMANDING THE I WOULD RECCOMEND THIS LAPTOP
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I think Michael Seneschal might be onto something in that the 8GB RAM might be one of the limiting factors. Furthermore, with the fan spinning all the time it makes me think that the Macbook might need cleaning of the Macbook and reapplication of the thermal paste. I understand not everyone might be tech savvy enough to do a proper thermal paste cleaning / re-pasting but it would NOT be surprising if that (along with 8GB RAM) might be contributing factors for the less than desirable outcome. Just some food for thought.
Spoiler alert: No
Thx 😂 you saved me 14 mins
Fun fact: The performance of the 2018 Air is actually a fair bit worse than the 2017 model as it has to constantly render 2x as many pixels due to the Retina display.
My old 2017 Air wasn't great but it wasn't as bad as the one in this vid haha
Ah... Makes sense now.
Been using a 2018 MacBook Pro from work. Constantly running Figma, protopie, adobe CC (mostly indesign, illustrator, photoshop, lightroom and after effects), Final Cut; I’m doing A LOT of creative work. That thing was constantly chugging. Just got an M2 pro and my god what a difference.
Me too, I also do indesign etc, the 2018 one barely can handle anything, it gets worse when external monitor connected, I had to lower resolution to complete works.
For everyone thinking something is wrong with the eBay macbook Air, it is because you haven't tried the M series computer yet. After you get used to new apple Silicon laptops, everything else just feels extremely slow, including the highest end gaming pc you can possibly build. The M series feels so responsive, just like using high-end phone, everything opens fast and responsive. I have a 2019 Macbook Pro i9 32GB Ram,512GB storage and a new Macbook Air M1 13" base model feels so much faster just doing regular tasks
Nah a high end gaming pc feels faster and is faster
Yeah I had a 2018 air for a few years, felt like it was broken and I thought I got scammed for the first year of ownership before I used a family members 2019 air and it felt the same lol.
@@v5k456jh3 mostly that is the graphics card. Not the CPU. apple CPUs are the bomb. apple graphics are poop.
your crazy, my M2 last 18+ hours on battery life and its way way wayyyy faster than my intel MacBook Pro
Totally understand some of the creativity issues with an "older" laptop - but besides my current M1 Mac mini, I use a 2015 MacBook Pro - for almost all tasks (including sending emails, etc for work) the two computers respond exactly the same with none of the lag you mention. Granted - I could not perform any of the creative tasks you showed were hampered (useless on the intel) on my 2015 MacBook Pro - so I agree with you there. However, for most mundane tasks, a older MacBook is perfectly fine.
Absolutely, on my MacBook Air 2018 everyday tasks run perfectly. But I am on Mojave, plus maybe he running screen recording - it’s overload CPU/GPU massively on Air 2018, but anyone doing this.
Agree with you. As a science student, my Macbook Pro Retina 2015 inch having 16GB ram is more than enough for daily use, even opening many applications (word and excel, mainly, and some statistical software) and hundreds of safari/chrome tabs. Light Photoshop editing is just fine.
Can’t even lie, I miss the touchbar and butterfly keyboard
it's crazy how maligned they were. Unless you're a serious power user, i don't know anyone who uses the function strip regularly. OTOH I use the touchbar to scrub videos, text prediction, change songs/language totally customizable. I'm going to miss using that.
The butterfly, as well (i have a late 2018 model) has not been an issue for me either. I hate how squishy and unstable the scissor switches they reverted to feel in comparison. I don't use any dust covers, and I haven't had any problems with double registers at all. The technology may have needed to mature, but in a few ways, I think my macbook looks and feels newer/nicer than the newer apple silicon models
Also, freaking bootcamp. Emulation/virtualization software has not gotten close to what I need and there are simply programs that you just straight up need windows for. No matter how much they tried to push rosetta 2, and the gaming porting kit, it hasn't taken off and most games and programs still need native windows to run properly.
I love the butterfly keyboard, but the sticky keys are an issue. Just hours before typing this comment, I got the space bar stuck, and I had a panic attack, as this is my primary machine.
They really should've kept the Touch Bar a long side the function keys on the newer generation Macs, and also putting them on the non pros to encourage developers to add features for the Touch Bar. While they're not utilized to their full potential, as someone who uses a Touch Bar MBP it's such a nice thing to have in some use cases, especially being able to skip ADs on TH-cam lol
this is wild
so do i
While I'm sure the performance jump between Intel and Apple Silicon is huge, for that laptop it shouldn't be so huge, so I suspect there might be something wrong with that specific machine.
Yeah! It definitely seems that what he wants is to make us use those purchase links for the MacBook Pro M2 and M3. I have been a Mac user since 2000 and I currently have a 2020 MacBook Pro with Intel that works incredibly well for editing video in DaVinci, FinalCut, the Adobe Suite works incredibly well for me, maybe it just doesn't work for gaming, but for that I have a PS5 console (which is made for that and I can still play with RemotePlay from the same macbook)
In short, you have to live on something, right? click bait becomes a priority over being objective
the actual difference between m1 air and even the 2020 air was quite noticeable in terms of battery life and ofc the performance, at the time it totally blew me away coz a base m1 MacBook air was able to keep up with the 16 inch MacBook Pro with i9 in most workflows that weren't dependent upon gpu performance
Sadly, though it is, if you have both systems, you can tell how extremely fast M Chip laptops are. Apple M1 laptop works just like high end Phone, apps open quickly, and everything is smooth. After using the new laptop, my regular Windows computer all feel slow
Some of those tasks may be doable on apple silicon MBA's, but there's no way you're going to edit 4k on a 2018 MBA lol. And maybe 2 or 3 apps are okay, but having 5-7 apps running is of course going to slow down a 5 year old computer significantly.
Interesting video! I was kinda surprised by how performance-lacking you found that 2018 MBA to be, although I suspect that Apple intentionally nerfed the performance of the last generation of Intel MacBooks to make their M-series Macs seem a lot faster by comparison. I'm fairly convinced that there is something wrong with that Mac, however, since it shouldn't perform so poorly. I'm still rolling a late-2013 15" MBP i7-4850QH 16GB of RAM with 2GB Nvidia discreet graphics here as my daily driver. Even though this old Mac is no longer supported by Apple, I'm still holding out on moving up to something newer since it still runs the apps I need and has some life left in it thanks to the OCLP project. It sure can't work with 4K video or HDR content but works for my photo editing and online work and isn't a complete slouch -- it even seems much faster than the 18'Air in the video. Of course, I will have to upgrade when Apple finally ditches all Intel support at the end of the transition period. Where it does fall flat on its face is with the very limited battery life, although being able to slap a 2TB NVMe drive in it is still a strong point.
When is this transition expected to be over?
While only Apple knows the real answer we can look at the way things stand and speculate.
The 2019 Mac Pro is the only remaining product line that is Intel-based. It is expected we will see a new M-Series Mac Pro unveiled at this years WWDC23 event, or, perhaps a Special Event later in the year. It’ll then be on sale before the year is out and the Intel Mac withdrawn from sale at the same time. So late 2023 to early 2024 will see the hardware transition complete.
As far as software support goes we can only guess. MacOS 15 (late 2024) will may be the last major revision to run on any Intel Mac with all support for security updates for those supported Intel Macs ending 2 years later in 2026. This will then complete the entire transition.
@@Yliannyx then what? I have 2017 macbook pro and it runs amazing with 2tb
This is exactly what´s happened.
I have an M1 Mac Mini, and also a 2018 Intel i5 with 16GB of RAM and I bounce between both of them depending on my location. Final Cut, Pixelmator, Capture One, all work fine on both setups. The 2018 MacBook is a little slower, but nothing prohibitive. Note that I definitely single-task… but that’s my preferred way of working regardless of computer (single-task focus). I think the issues you’re having are due to 8GB of RAM and running many apps at the same time.
hello i actually want to buy an intel macbook 2019 i9 2.4 ghz right now but i'm worried because everyone are telling me that's a great laptop but it has heating problem. Are you having this problem with your old laptop? and i know that with Ventura now the problem is more resolvable or not?
@@hmombius2717 Realistically, if there was a heating problem, Apple would have issued a recall. Any references to a heating problem are directly related to the internet being dramatic.
It sucks, dont buy It. I have that macbook and Yes, It has that kind of problem@@hmombius2717
I'm using a 2016 Macbook pro 13" and the performace is still okay. I use it to for large pixel designs, motion graphics and not very much of video editing, mostly 1080p. It still handles tasks quite fairly, except for the battery life and how warm it gets when rendering.
For what I do professionally, this can work for me. I'm not a video editor or creator, so this can work just fine
I get it. Even for basic stuff, working with just a. Few apps, I was seeing issues.
@@JerrySchulze I wish there was a way for us to upgrade the internals in these later model MacBooks such as the SSD & RAM. I purchased a 2012 MacBook Pro recently as a project. Upgraded the internals & it is really fast!
I have an M3 pro 16 and also a 2015 pro with retina display, when I switch for everyday tasks, youtube, safari etc, I don’t see any major difference. I think your specific machine has something wrong, also maybe because you went to an air from m2 max. But believe it or not the late 2015 pro is not laggy at basic tasks and opens the safari web page as expected
my man is editing high quality videos on a macbook air which wasn't even meant to do it in the first place, and now hes doing it 5 years later. a 2020 intel macbook pro would've been a fairer comparison. pointless.
I think I mentioned that this was not representative of regular users, but the video was asking if I could use it for MY work.
@@JerrySchulze You still didn’t get the point. The MacBook Air wasn’t made for this Pro video editing environment in the first place. What is the point then to use a 5 year old air and trying to struggle it thought such high quality footage, when it clearly isn’t meant for such tasks. Again, If you said you were going to use it for your work flow, you should have maybe tried comparing with a MacBook Pro from that time or something at least. I don’t want to argue with you, because I have watched you other videos and I enjoy them. I was trying to make a point that if you are choosing to switch back to an Intel MacBook for your work flow, atleast try with an Intel MacBook Pro. The air was useless for such tasks in 2018 itself. What was the point of putting it through such misery 5 years later as well and saying it’s not going to work for your work flow.
These lags etc seem excessive. Did you try and open it to check if it was caked in dust?
Personally, I loved the butterfly keyboard, I did not love the issues with it, thought. My typing speed was much higher, over time I have gotten used to the click-clack of the M1 16". You did, most likely, run into slowness due to SSD speed and maybe lack of memory. We have upgraded, in the household, to M1, and I am getting ready for an upgrade to M2 for my work laptop (upgrade from M1 MBPro 13.3" to 16" is going to a game changer for me). These MBAs are great for web browsing and for light work, like for at home, which they were always meant for.
probably the reason why it was an ebay special… seems like a hardware issue to me
there is 100% something wrong with that MacBook lol my 2013 MacBook Air with unsupported Sonoma opens apps way faster and no lag on docs at all. I don't edit videos but ya my old MacBook Air runs amazing in 2023
Yep the biggest issues is that these were bad cpus and running retina on them.
Your issues look like they are caused more by lack of ram rather than CPU issues. An Intel MacBook with 16 or 32gb ram would do a lot better.
hes a mac user, you have to define what ram or cpu is to him lol. just go windows
I sold my 2018 Air and bought the M2 Air mid tier and would never go back :)
I really didn’t understand why did you picked up a base model MacBook Air to compare against your new MacBook Pro? At least you should have picked up a 13” MacBook Pro or the 2019 16” MacBook Pro with i9 that would have been a fair comparison imo.
I have a 2018 MBA same specs just a 256gb and while I don't edit videos, mine is not that slow opening things. I play steam games and while that makes the fan spin all the way up it doesn't lag. idk I think something may have been wrong with yours. mine isn't that slow
Thanks for the comment. Curious about this machine.
somethign definitely wrong with his. Thats why he got it cheap lol
Oh.. i never had Intel Mac, but that looks like any other windows ever i usted. Thanks crack
It has now become clear to me they’ve been sitting on old designs for a while because they were waiting to jump
This is the base model, of a 6 year old computer. No wonder it’s not fast. My dad still uses one of these for work and personal use with no complaints however.
What fan? I thought this was a MacBook Air for 2018.
personally, I have the 16" MacBook Pro with Intel Core I7, and I do love this machine despite the changed motherboard twice not within the warranty period 🥲 800$, but for this money you can't buy something better from Apple in 16-inch size :)
yeah i have the 13” MBP 10th gen intel cpu, my motherboard failed as well had to get it replaced, idk whats wrong with Apples 2020 computers
I recently started using my 2016 13" MacBook Pro and it holds up to daily common use with my 13" M1 MacBook Air. There is no comparison when rendering graphics but it doesn't feel as unusable as yours did in the video.
9:46 Not even my 2011 15 inch was that slow and laggy with google docs, when I switched to the M1 Pro 16 inch the change was just insane.
Thanks for the video! I replaced my old MacBook with a Mac Studio last year and I wondered if for these few days a year a laptop would be handy if I could get by with an older model. I guess the answer is no - or at least I should not get this model. 🙂
I have a 2015 model MacBook Pro 15 inch. I agree with your comments on the video editing etc but for everything else i find it perfectly fine, the same for my iMac 2014 model. It’s only 4k video editing that slows it down for me.
I had a 2018 MBP 15' the butterfly keyboard was the worst thing ever. It broke down on me and I was able to get a replacement where I have my 2019 16'
LONG AND VERY BORING VIDEO
Hashtag sadface.
hello, I have a question, which Intel-based Macbook Pro can I buy, and like good old days open the back cover and upgrade the RAM and Storage, and maximum how much RAM can I put and also instead of a Hard drive can I put SSD?
None that would be worth your money. An 2020 intel iMac might still have good performance and upgradable but that’s it. Or maybe a 2019 MacBook Pro.
"I do not have many applications open"
Proceeds to list the whole App Store
my 2018 macbook air is not laggy like yours,i think yourshave a hardware problem !
Spoiler: yes
silicon macs spoiled us BIG TIME. They are like iphones vs pigeon post
how did you do this and is 4k editing still possible withoout issues? looking to buy a refurbished ones for 4k iphone editing, has the heating issue been fixed? i9 thanks
On Mojave my Air 2018 works much much better. For example Google Docs opened up two/three times faster and no lag when typing. Glad, that i am not updated to the newer MacOS! And i dont hearing fan almost 100% of time, only when run Cinebench, when installing programs.
Your machine has some sort of issue for sure, loading pages on my base 2018 air was always fine when I had it, using an external hdd you should leave over 50 percent of your laptop hdd free and that would likely help. Editing 4k video I have done but just shut down your other apps while you do it. I think this machine is better than the video shows it to be.
Hi Jerry, It's great to see how things have evolved over time! I did want to share some feedback, though. I personally prefer a more minimalistic style and found the transitions between shots to be a bit distracting and annoying. Of course, this is just my opinion, and I understand that everyone has different preferences.
Thanks really appreciate the feedback. I tried something different this time just to see if I liked it. Do my other videos fit you preferred
Style?
Why do you store so much on your actual machine? Surely some of that could be offloaded to a NAS?
I think ou would've had a much smoother experience if you used the OS the Air was shipped with.
I still use my 2013 21.5” i5 iMac,
2020 27” Intel i9 iMac,
& I use my 2021 16” M1 Max MBP on the go.
My MacBook’s better for video editing.
My 27” iMac is better for music production.
Both seem the same.
Performance is still very good.
I boot off external NMVe drives with SK Hynix & Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD’s with both.
My 21.5” iMac is still great because I put a new SSD drive & added the max amount of RAM but can’t handle heavy, heavy Logic Pro or Final Cut .
Intel MacBook Air’s are good for using internet only.
Ultimately you should know by now that old Intel MacBook’s suck.
Jerry, maybe it lags because you run screen recording? This overload CPU and GPU massively. On everyday use anyone run screen recording.
My 2020 Macbook Air 13" Retina display (1.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i3) LAGS! And the battery dies quick!
My Windows Laptop that has lower tier CPU (new 11th gen of 2020), same RAM size, bigger SSD Capacity, run just fine with some minor errors. And so far so good
or maybe my Laptop is more optimized or what
Fan on Macbook Air? Doesn't it a fan less design?
Not before the M1
Still rocking my old 13" MBA that you were using.
Happy I'll be upgrading to a M1 Pro 14" MBP in the upcoming days as my first Apple Silicone device, I'm sure it'll be a night and day difference.
Taking a OS from another system no matter what it is always going to come with some issues mostly drivers that at not the same. So bugs is pretty normal.
OS doesn’t migrate.
You are trying a software and hardware which is designed for planned obsolescence.
Try with the OS that originally came with old Air you will be happy.
RIP battery life
Hey Chris, I used premiere pro for this video and I know you mentioned in yours the other day you use premiere. Overall it was ok but I def prefer fcp.
you know apple slows down their os's to force you to go to the newest one right? like I have my 2015 with Mojve. it's still fast as hell. but of course.. my asus is the fastest machine I have. because intel sucks XD I got amd now.
Comparing a Macbook Air with a budget cpu to a Macbook Pro with a M2 Max is certainly a very very equal comparison......
lmaoo right i would have expected him to expalin is with a m1 air
Fun fact: watching Jerry in this video saying "the fans are going nuts" while my fans are going nuts too😂
I'm still using the 2018 Air; it has been perfect for my needs, but now it has become really annoying: even watching TH-cam videos is pretty laggy!
I'm trying to decide whether to buy a 15" Air or go crazier with the 14" Pro. 👋👋
bro had 8gb of trash lol
in all due respect, this video is a very awful way to compare intel vs m2. you choose the least powerful intel macbook from the butterfly keyboard era, and compared it to a macbook pro M2... i would like to see how this would be done with say a 2019/2018 macbook pro with at least a core i7 and a bit bigger internal storage, not 128gb!!! I have a 2015 macbook pro with a quad core i7, and even that is more powerful than a 2018 macbook air with a dual core i5.
Thanks, the point was asking if I do my work on a 2018 MBA, not comparing it directly to a M2 Max.
maybe if you had low power mode on it would last roughly 30 more minutes!
Good video
Possibly!
how about the 2019 MBP 16” i7-9
I will probably use my intel mac (2018) and run it into the ground. Probably anti everything that apple changed on the last gen mbp. Unless you're a serious power user, i don't know anyone who uses the function strip regularly. OTOH I use the touchbar to scrub videos, text prediction, change songs/language totally customizable. I'm going to miss using that.
The butterfly, as well (i have a late 2018 model) has not been an issue for me either. I hate how squishy and unstable the scissor switches they reverted to feel in comparison. I don't use any dust covers, and I haven't had any problems with double registers at all. The technology may have needed to mature, but in a few ways, I think my macbook looks and feels newer/nicer than the newer apple silicon models. The new ones feel cheaper and ugly
Also, freaking bootcamp. Emulation/virtualization software has not gotten close to what I need and there are simply programs that you just straight up need windows for. No matter how much they tried to push rosetta 2, and the gaming porting kit, it hasn't taken off and most games and programs still need native windows to run properly.
sooo refreshing, seeing a macbook without! the notch
With all the problems in the world people worrying about a notch is laughable.
a lot of the bad performance of the intel macs is due to low power graphics...
I install Linux on my old Macbook Air. It runs fast and it's updated
Sounds like they swapped the ssd for hdd😀 Even 2012 Macs perform better than that😂
Pointless video. I don't feel this comparison is fair or appropriate in any way: a 14" MacBook Pro can't be compared with an Intel MacBook Air 2019, which was an entry-level device designed for one-core daily tasks (and it's still fine for that, I got one of this besides my MBA M1 2020). A much more interesting comparison would be between a MBP 14" and MBP 15" from 2018 (both of them were conceived for video editors like you). And that argument leads me to my second gripe with this video (with almost 80 % of tech youtubbers, actually): bro, the vast majority of us watcher don't do video-editing and don't care about that. And that doesn't translate into a 'light' use case, whatever that means: I don't do video-editing with my M1 MBA and sometimes this (otherwise amazing) device struggles to keep up with my work.
Thanks for watching. It’s not a direct comparison video. It’s asking the question if I can use an old laptop for my current work load.
@@JerrySchulze you’re trying to see if an entry level Intel MBA from 2018 with 128 GB SSD, Intel Core i5, and 8 GB of RAM can handle your workload in comparison to a M2 MAX Mac Pro. C’mon man. You could’ve used a more powerful and speced out Intel MBP from 2018. This video was pointless as the original commenter stated. And please don’t be like other TH-camrs who delete comments that don’t agree with the content of the video.
@@harrywilliams4309 what commend did I delete? And yes, I did this video as a challenge to see if I could do it. Thanks for watching.
Yup, I agree. A Pro vs Pro would've been a fair comparison.
I completely agree with you, this is no fair comparison. Pro vs Pro MB would have been a better comparison.
Using expose with the intel gpu it is so slow and lagging, since macos catalina
I still use dual core i3 1.1ghz perfectly fine
Definitely something wrong with that machine. I also have a 2019 Macbook Air (16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD) and while it's noticeably worse than my 14" M1 Pro MBP, I've nowhere as bad as I'm seeing in this video. (apps bouncing ad nauseam and not even opening, several seconds lag while typing ? come on.. ). Yes, the fans do pick up quickly, and you can hear them, but this is easily mitigated by running the laptop in "Low Power Mode" which btw. does not nerf the performance at all (e.g. it caps the peak CPU speed from 3.5 GHz to about 2.8, but by doing this, the sustained multicore performance is actually a bit better, as it does not thermal throttle as easily).
p.s.: and to be fair, fan is not even audible like most of the time, during light stuff like watching youtube videos, or browsing the web. Running on the latest updates ./ Ventura.
You should try switching back to power PC lol or maybe 6040
Only solution for ya -> Get a MAC Pro (x64)
Try Linux on this MacBook Air. Your experience will be totally different.
Welcome to Apple Planned obsolescence! Iam sure when this macbook air was launched was a lot more snappy
I can’t stand this ridiculous looking notch Apple has on their MacBook and iPhone screens.
You own one? After owning one u do not notice it after a week…..my experience.
mac air dual-core Intel Core i5 processor is slow
Short answer: Just don't!
Hi Jerry, I’m a new subscriber but I’ve watched a number of your videos. I know this video is “2 weeks” old at this point, but I’d appreciate any advice you can give, as I have only a couple of days left to return a Mac to Apple for a full refund.
I’m coming from a 2012 13” inch non-retina MacBook Pro hooked up to a Thunderbolt Display, and a 2010 27” iMac. I do graphic and web design work, some screencast video work for clients and a lot of very large spreadsheet work managing e-commerce datasets.
After a long deliberation of what new Apple Silicon Mac to buy, and on the strength of two of your videos from last summer, on April 1 (perhaps foolishly 😊) I decided to buy an Apple refurbished 2020 27” Intel iMac, 16GB/2TB, i7, 5500XT with 10GbE, for about a 40% discount. Great machine, but given that it’s 2023, I’m wondering if I made a mistake, and should instead get a refurbished M2 MacBook Air 8C/10G, 24GB/1TB, for $200 less than the iMac, though hooked up to my Thunderbolt Display, with a couple of extra dongles for now, and a monitor mount for Continuity Camera. I’ll need a laptop for remote work this summer, (I painfully used my 2012 for the same work last summer) but I’d want the new one to only be a secondary machine afterwards, and still have desktop, maybe an M2 Max Studio if it comes out. I only have the budget for one machine right now though. Or should I keep the Intel iMac (for 6 or 7 years) and stretch a bit more to get a lower spec M1 MBA as well? 🤷♂️ A bit of FOMO either way.
Thanks for your informative videos, and for any advice you can give.
100% I would return and get a refurb M2 or even an M1 MacBook Pro 14 or 16. You will be happier in the long run. For the display, I dont have experience trying to get the old TB display to work so it may be tricky. Honestly, unless you want a separate desktop computer for some reason, the MacBook Pro is probably more than enough. Good luck.
the AIR is an odd choice for your comparison, there's NO reason ANYONE should be interested in this . illocical model choices . . .
I am a programmer i own macbook pro 2019 i5 8th gen 500 gb variant
i have no issues in launching applications like IntelliJ IDEA and npm management console
Docker desktop jenkins server
Everything runs flawless
fans aren’t blasting loud, no lag or heating issues unless you use it on a flat desk
I work in Non air conditioned environment so
Macbook pro 13 inch i5 16 gb Ram with 500 gb is worth having it after 4 years
Battery cycle count on 651 can squeeze the energy for 6 hours
intel chips are better than m2 chips
Mac book air 2018 ,not mac book pro 2018
Pro 2018 +i7+ 16 ram
Is good pc
Not m1-2 lavel but good
Air 2018 is garbage
What do you expect. This is nothing more than a crap on Intel Mac video.
apple for rich people i got pc $500 lot cheaper it was on sell few years ago i can all play games . i have bought use 2011 mac book year ago
Wtf, why would you use MacBook air to edit videos 🙈
Because someone, somewhere wants to start editing videos but only has an old laptop or can only afford an air. Gotta start somewhere.
Intel is not a slow CPU.
So you love getting new MacBooks do you. Let tell mate so do i but the difference between you and me is, That’s right you guessed it MONEY TH-cam must be a very lucrative business is that why you want us nobodies to subscribe all the time???????
Hellooooooo
I hate this type of video on TH-cam
Good for you.
2018 macbook air 8gb ram 128gb ssd (bed)
2022 macbook air 16gb ram 512gb ssd (on the go)
i3 12100f 32gb ram rtx 2060 super 1tb m.2 980 pro
my m2 laptop is in my bag 5 feet away from me. in bed atm so i. on m. 2018 air the apps what i have open is chrome firefox micosoft remote desktop spoitfly.
i also do have photoshop open with a 12k file open atm the min so my fan is going a little but and i seeing a little bit of. alag i think my laptop is downloading a macos update aswell just close photo shop 2 secs a ago so the lag have stop fully i can type as fast i want and it wont lag.
i use the 2018 air mainly for You tube twitch google drive (netfliex ....)
i do find safrai to be laggy but chrome and firefox is not laggy at all.
broke my m2 air last year need a laptop for temp used when. i. got that fix (stud on the screen) so i gotton this one july 2022 since then i just used this laptop in bed
would. ireccomend the 2018 air yes and no depends what you trying to used it for just watchen video then yes it handle 4k playback no problemwould i reccomend it for school work yes as a chrome book can do that but with a mac you. get a full desktop os for stuff like office even 4k photoshop works if you dont mind a little bit of lag
I did hug up this laptop to a 4k tv to bin watch an anime ran like it would smothly video was not choppy
would i reccomend this for stuff what i use my m2 for photo shop 12k project file lightroom classic 30-50 photos no i would not reccomend my m2 for that because all i paid for really with the m2 air was the newdisgn and a little bit faster profomese over the m1 and that would of handle my work flow profect the phone what i using now is the s23+ in raw mode unless i know i dont care about the colours that much on a hoto i posting. if you going do seriose work i would reccomend a pc or a higher end mac.
OUTCOME DEPENDS ON YOUR NEEDS BEING NOT DEMANDING THE I WOULD RECCOMEND THIS LAPTOP
Summary: maybe keep MacBooks til they dead 💀
M2 MacBook Air 💻 looks like the win.. can’t beat maxed out for $1500 👍😎