My daughter has severe scoliosis. She loves to shoot but her condition limits how much recoil she can handle. A scoped Hi Point 9mm carbine is her deer rifle. She does wonders with it. She is a 22lr sharpshooter. She has practiced to the point that she hits gallon jugs usually by the 2nd or 3rd shot at 200 yards with 24 zoomies. She has dedicated her daily shooting to her Ruger American Rimfire.10 inch steel plates at 50, 75,100, 150 yards. She just uses mil dot and holdovers. I can't wait to show her this video. 22lr target practice is her favorite activity in life. Thank you Sir!
That's awesome that y'all were able to find a way to accommodate her. It's also awesome that she has an interest in the shooting sports. We need more young people in all aspects of the shooting world.
17hmr would be a nice option if we want to do some longrange shooting with rimmfires. Practically same recoil as 22lr but caliber itself is like laser compared to 22lr. 250 meters half liter sodacan is pretty easy target with hawke scopes where it have hold over marks for distances.
Interesting presentation, but as someone who shoot a lot of 22Lr in competition and hunting I would like too recomend you to keep zero at 50m (55 yards). 22Lr is made to be under 100 m round and if you have zero at 100m this mean every time when you shoot something at 30, 40, 50m you will need to aim bellow the target and that is not so practical at all.
i agree, for hunting, a 100 yard zero is not a very point and shoot choice. i choose 75M, 1" high at 50 4" low at 100. usually set up hunting on small properties with max 75M range.
I see the cci stingers through the scope when I shoot at my 100 Meter stand, was a cool feeling the first time I could see it with my own eyes😅 I think to myself, is it possible to see say a 308 or some other rifle round, if the recoil wouldn’t be there?
@@riclindsey329 Indeed, Mr. Lindsey. When I was shooting NRA High Powered Rifle on a local Marine Corps Team, we had M14 rifles (without the full auto switch). On most targets past 200 yards, one could see 'vapor trails'. I think. One had to be behind the shooter, looking down the trajectory to get best results. Using a spotting scope recommended, bare eyes would sometimes work. Better in summer with some humidity in the air.
I am a bit older and to hear the words "22 long rifle" was refreshing. Dad once told me about his uncle and my grandfather with a 22 short. They were kids and saw the neighbors boar hog in the distance. The words " let's shoot next to him and scare him'' The story ended with a dead pig...
I used to shoot at jackrabbits from the back deck of our house down in Brownsville TX. There was a long flat piece of ground between us and the gulf. Rabbits would come out of an evening and browse around. To keep it fair, we used .22's. It was like dropping in artillery at long ranges. We found that you couldn't find scopes with enough adjustment to sight one in at those ranges. This was back in the 80's so scopes weren't what they are now.. But, with practice, you get good at holdover.
FYI - bullet drop vs. time is constant regardless of the projectile’s weight. It will drop at exactly the same rate if you just hold it in your fingers and let go. Galileo figured out that objects fall at the same speed regardless of how much they weigh, according to the tales, by dropping different things off the tower of Piza. The main factor for projectile drop is how long it takes for it to get from the muzzle to the target. Obviously, higher velocity ammo gets to the target faster, and so has less time to drop. The bullet weight, shape, BC, and powder charge all affect the velocity. If you could accurately measure the flight time you could very accurately predict the drop.
A very long time ago, i figured out that a half-furlong is just about the end of the practical application of the .22 long rifle cartridge. I found it to be accurate on the 107 yard ram in the .22 long rifle silhouette game and that I could estimate range out that far. Beyond that, it is a crap shoot. The clincher came many years later at the range where I do most of my shooting now. I saw someone else shooting the 200 yard target with a 22. Through the spotting scope I could see the bullets arching down almost like a home run hit after passing over the centre fielder's head. Range estimation errors of only ten yards each way would produce a wide miss. This video bears all of that out.
All objects fall at the same rate regardless of thier mass. Therefore, bullet drop is equal according to time in flight to target. Doesn't matter if it a 350grain 375 magnum or a 20 gr rimfire, the trajectory is identical
I've been shooting the 22lr at 200 yards for about 5 or more years now. I did the same thing you did and figured out the drop and determined 5.3 mils with Winchester bulk 333 ammo was my sweet spot. I found it to be a great way to practice trigger control and also a pretty good replication of shooting 308 at 500 yards but at a fraction of the cost. I do it in the winter and used to put 4" shotgun clays on the berm at 200 yards and use the holes in the snow to correct my windage. Thanks for the video, I am now going to try and reach out to 500 yards. Your chart helped me save at least 500 rounds. Cheers.
Last year I got a Ruger Precision rimfire in 22 long. I went 100 yard zero drop at 200 was give or take 38 inches. The Precision rimfire is sweet little trainer rifle.
I remember as a kid doing this. Your standard 22LR cartridge they really started to drop and loose energy after 100 yards. Now put in CCI Stinger? That was a huge improvement over the standard velocity 22.
@@knokname6466 sorry not the case. That comment defies basic physics. 2 like objects as far as weight and size the one traveling faster will go further hit harder and drop less. I did a lot of shooting with 22 and would shot out to 400 yards or more. The Stingers would hit about 3’ higher at those distances than standard velocity 22.
These bullet drop comparisons are both entertaining and really good value. I have learned a whole lot and all of this without actually trying - Keep them coming 👍👍👍
You can adjust by putting your scope on the target. Take one shot then adjust your scope to the bullet . Then go back to shooting the bulleye. You should be spot on.
Go back a few issues in Field and Stream ,there was a gentleman who shot great distances and taught his young daughter to shoot the same with a .22 . Incredible distance way beyond what I thought a rimfire was capable of.
Nice video. I love the 22LR for pushing the range boundary, it's very fun. Last year I did a competition in 22LR up to about 290-300m and some consecutive test afterwards. What I noticed is that dialing the scope for 290-300 meters for the 22LR almost coincides as dialing my .308 @ 800m. Since I was swapping the same chassis and scope between the 22LR and .308 it was a nice reference point for the scope. I was using RWS R100 ammo for the 22LR and factory Hornady ELDM 168gr for the .308. On the 22LR I've also noticed that it prefers slower bullets for long range, since faster bullets get trans-sonic very quickly and destabilize more right around 100m. Another fun thing is observing the 22LR bullet with the naked eye lobbing itself like an artillery shell to the target @ 300m.
Sight mine in at 60 yards dead on...and hold over 2in after that every 20 yard past 60...works for me.. Kentucky windage is a great skill!!! Past 120 yards the drop is really fast so the real limits of the 22RF are about a 100 yards or closer for hunting!
It’s funny when you said what you were shooting and distance I reach and got my old 1975 gun data book and the old old data said 36” but that’s with a 1.5 center to center and your 2” or more. Good shooting for a 22 at 200yard 👍
We had a coworker telling us that he's killing prairie dogs at a 1000 yards with a 22. We said we would meet him on our day off because we have to see this. The next day he says he's having trigger problems and had to take it to a gunsmith and it's all dismantled. 😂🤣
This man is the reason I changed my dream gun from a Henry to a Marlin 1895 for the 4570. I’m currently working with a Glenfield 60 so I’m excited to see what comes of! Not only to learn a bit more but because I love these videos!
Very good educational video. Thank you. I had similar trajectory with my suppressed 10/22 using CCI standard velocity 40 g. @ 1080 fps. Because of the drop I have had to zero the rifle at 50 yards to use it for squirrel hunting.
Thanks for the shift in content. I’m getting tired of the shooting random crap and making noise on steel with guns Chanels. It’s a nice change of pace. Keep up the good work
Thanks for watching Klent. However unfortunately it is the "random stuff" that gets the big views 🤦♂️🤣. Wish it weren't the case. A majority of people want to be entertained, not educated
My local range has a 6 inch steel plate at 200 yards. I can hit it pretty much all day long with my (inherited from Dad and first gun I ever fired) Remington 582 with a 4x Bushnell scope (rifle and scope date to 1968). I do so off a bag rest and I was luckily able to find a consistent point of aim/hold over to hit at that range. It impresses the hell out of others, except my wife (who has to hold a bit lower and also found her own point of aim) and a few buddies who I let in on the secret of where to hold. Then it is kinda routine.
When I first began learning all this 'stuff', I loaded the chronograph, four rifles and many (perhaps 10 boxes) different brands of ammo into the truck and spent a few days at the range. Simply chronoing all the ammo in each rifle was time consuming. After getting the speed down, and recorded in each rifle's DOPE book, they were zeroed (at 25 yds) with each type to find the most accurate. This was recorded in the rifle's DOPE book. Second day was the "Range" day. I had targets (full size silhouette B22s) arranged in pairs from fifty to 200 yards. Utilizing the free download of Strelok on my phone, I didn't leave the bench until I was done shooting each rifle. surprisingly, the Strelok was correct with each come-up. The secret was having the correct velocity, Strelok did the rest. For free. Oh... my point being, from 25 to 50 yards, my come-up was three MOA clicks... at 75 it is 15 clicks... at 100, the come-up is 30 clicks-- all together, 30.3 clicks, and 7,95 MOA from 25 to 100 yards. At 200 yards, the come-up is 101 clicks, or 52.9 MOA. I've shot it out to 300 with Strelok dope and it's always been right on, or too close to call.
Love my .22lr but not for long distance. Yeah, there are some people that have all sorts of calculations and rifles and gizmos for their .22lr but for the average shooter it's best to keep it a lot closer. Great stuff brother. Thank you.
Great video and pretty educational. Wouldn't mind to see a comparison between those rounds and some hot rounds at the same distances. Thanks for doing these!!
The long barrel on the trainer is probably working against you, 16" is about all you need from the .22lr, anything after that is just applying drag to the bullet so your velocities are probably less than you would get out of a shorter barrel thus applying more drop. Love the CZ rimfires.
@@bertfromnz9069 with all due respect, your 45 years of experience should have taught you how to spell barrel… 😉😉🤣🤣. Just givin you a hard time Sir, cheers 🍻
@@bertfromnz9069 just a thought, and I'm not trying to discredit your experience. But I do have a question. Is most of your shooting from a rested rifle, or off hand? Because when shooting off hand, a longer barrel will add a little more forward weight, thus making it easier to hold "steady" on your target. That's just been my experience. When I bought my latest Ruger 10-22 it came with a 16" barrel and I was concerned about accuracy at my normal target range of 100 yards. I can keep several 2" spinning targets spinning till my magazine is empty from a bench and movable bi pod.
I’m glad to see an appreciation and resurgence of the 22 Long Rifle. 22’s are near and dear to my heart as my father taught be first to shoot as many fathers did. He left me with a ‘41 Remington Field Master Pump and a Smith and Wesson 22 wheel gun ( Kit Gun) Of course everyone has to have a Ruger 10/22. Thanks for letting us see some of your fun shooting. That CZ is sweet.
Another good video, thanks. Feedback: A 40gr 1240fps bullet drops about 61-62" @ 200yds through my CZ 455 w/20" barrel. A formula for you: RANGE X DIALED ELEVATION X CONSTANT(.0147). ex: 200yds X 21(my scope setting at 200yds) X .0417 = 61.74".
Nice video. I would love to see someone try to shoot 1000 (actual) yards with a 22lr. All the test I have performed have the bullet destabilizing between 600 and 800 yards. Because of the lost stability they tumble and fall out of the sky around 850 yards. It would be cool to see someone respectable do a 1000 yard test on camera.
Nice video, keep my 22LR CZ 457 sight in 50, and then hold over on my Vortex 6-24-50 FFP for longer gongs, e.g I hold over 8 MOA and ring the gongs at 150 yards shot by shot... it gets that simple since 22lr is pretty much sight in for maximum point blank range which in reality is 75yards :) so for more precise application sight in for 75, for shooting at gongs 6 inches or so wide 50yards sight in zero is way better since your shots under 50 yards are going to be hitting plates as well without needing aiming low... just keep target in crosshair and you are set... enjoy :) our children certainly do enjoy it too
Cool. My favorite guns to shoot are my two Marlin bolt guns. One (Model 25) I use only 22 short. A real tack driver at 15 to 30 yards. For LR bullets, I use the Model 781. Extremely good at 50 to 100 yards. A little tip for 22LR shooters wanting to zero in a new gun/scope. Zero it in at 25 yards. It will be close at 100 yards (due to the trajectory of the bullet) and then you can fine tune it at 100 yards. Saves bullets that way. (Unless you know it's already on paper at 100 yards) A note on those figures at 1000 yds. You were showing 18 ft lb energy at 1000 yards and blowing it off as a whiff. 18 ft lbs will kill small game. British use half that energy in pellet guns to take rats, squirrels, and rabbits. It's probably less because they are rating muzzle energy, which means it'll be a good bit less at the target. My 25 ft lb muzzle energy pellet gun takes them at 65 yards. Just saying. Really good video and information. Thanks for sharing.
Well, about 12 ft/lbs in .22 cal is enough to penetrate temple part of human adult scull. I think that figure is for 15 grain pellet. Don't know how the things stand with .22 LR 40 grain bullet
Thanks for sharing Who tee. I saw a CZ 22 lr in a local pawn shop ( don t remember the model ) and was thinking about purchasing it to do some target shooting. I ve got 200 yards out back and thought it would be interesting, fun and affordable to shoot.
i have a 455 with the long barrel an adjustible iron sights , the rear is adjustible , just fits me perfect my favorite g , acurate quiet high quality , ps would think about getting in the future the 22 and 17 hmr combo rifle .
I'm 14, and I got my MARK II GXP Savage 22LR. I used some Blazer ammo and hit a 4-inch target at 300 yards. I was crouching on the floor and used a Field Pod Max to hold my rifle. I had maxed out my scope turrets in elevation, so I had to do some Kentucky windage and aim a bit high over the target. It took me about 10 tries, but then I heard a ding, and it fell over. My scope has no mil dots or hash marks, just a plain old X reticle. I had my gun sighted in at 40 yards.
9.8 meters per second squared... that is the rate of gravitational acceleration. Whether you drop a bullet from your fingers or shoot it out of a barrel (level orientation) they both drop at the same speed. The faster the bullet the further it will travel in that amount of the time, but the time remains the same. Until you start pointing the barrel upward.
@joal incontrol That is precisely correct. Those snappy little rounds like the .220 Swift doing 4000 or even 4500 feet per second cover a lot of distance in a short amount of time and they cover the near distances so fast that they may only drop a couple inches at 200-300 yards. But those light bullets bleed off energy quickly and after 300 yards they start to drop off. That's why you don't see anyone shooting long range competition with .220 Swift or cartridges like it. I'd love to have one but they burn barrels so fast that you need change barrels after less than a thousand rounds and that's kind of an expensive proposition.
LOL the 200-yard target is like throwing a dirt clod at Twenty Yards you just kind of lob them in there, good info though thanks for your time. Hey to Paul Jr. 🤘🤟✌
22 lr drop from the chart is about 3000 inches (250 ft) @ 1000 yds. Therefore the shooting angle (theta of the right triangle) is about 4.8 degrees. Here’s the math: base = (1000 X 3) or 3000 ft. height = 250 ft. hypotenuse = 3010 ft. The sin of theta is about .083. Using a scientific calculator theta is 4.8
We shoot longer range often (200-300 yards) and have done 500 yards with .22. The best ammo you can use and sort by rim thickness. Obviously a good condition day with minimal wind. Lapua Center X, Midas and Eley Yellow is what has worked best for my rifle. Your BC is high IMO on that ammo.
For a practical zero, POA at 20-25 yards., back on POA at about 65 yards and 5"low at 100.... and for practical purposes that's about it for the little .22RF...
Greetings, from Go Big Red. As always you are one of my very best to watch on the tube. Very informative material here with 22 LR being one of the top 5 caliber’s. Stay safe down in TN.
Funny, you buy any other ammo, .416 .456 .300WM etc, no warning how many mile(s) it will travel (Laughing) BUT BOY, YOU BETTER LOOK OUT FOR THAT .22LR MILE TRAVEL!
This is the coolest video I will watch today...we are plinkers with lever Rossi and Henry...used Norma to sight at 50 yards, and blow up lots of any brand high velocity bulk at 100 yards...nowhere near your accuracy but hitting golf balls at 100 yards with flunky ammo entertains the sh_t out of us...😀
My 'standard' .22 lr is CCI Standard velocity or CCI AR for my rifle. The AR ammo (just advertising, folks) is advertised at 1250 or thereabouts. I'll have to chronograph it and share. I do know the drop from 50 yds to 100 yards is less than eight inches. I have a Zastava rifle, made like a grown up rifle (as the CZ is) and is old enough to be marked "Yugoslavia".
I often shoot .22 Long Rifle out to 100 yards with iron sights. My Remington 512, with most ammo, I have it sighted in at 50 yards, and can hold just at the top of a 3 inch plate and hit it every time. Out of my guns, I've found that the Norma Tac 22 performs rather poor at 100 yards, even compared to most cheap bulk ammo. Which is funny, because the Tac 22 seems to outperform everything at 50 yards.
It is really good ammo to sight with, we used it at 50 yards also...at 100 yards we prefer mini-mags, but normally plink with similar high velocity cheaper bulk of any brand...we don't really bother being uber precise, we figure when we hit a golf ball at 100 yards (that can take 1-10 shots with bulk ammo), we aren't doing terrible out of a rossi and a henry lever actions...
I get a 1 inch group at 100 yards in the shoulder (no butt rest) using a modified no grip flat surface tripod at least 2 inches wider than a completely flat forestock support and sub sonic Lapua Centre-X 1073fps from a single shot 1963 Anschutz 1413 by comparison, the bullet drop from 25 yards to 50 metres is about 1 MOA, and from 25 yards to 100 yards is about 8 MOA. I don't undertake rimfire Competition here beyond 100 yards (not found one).
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR POSTING THIS VIDEO AND 22LR BULLET DROP CHART...... I ACTUALLY RELOADED 22LR DURING THE AMMO SHORTAGE JUST TO GO PLINKING..... I HAVE BEEN SHOOTING 50YDS 100YDS 200YDS AND 300YDS AND MY BULLET DROP IS VERY SIMILAR..... I HAVE NOT FOUND DROP CHARTS THAT GO OUT AS FAR SO WE ARE BOTH VERY CLOSE EVEN DIFFERENT AMMO... FEDERAL AND WINCHESTER MUZZLE VELOCITY ARE BOTH AROUND 1200FPS ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU AGAIN
My daughter has severe scoliosis. She loves to shoot but her condition limits how much recoil she can handle. A scoped Hi Point 9mm carbine is her deer rifle. She does wonders with it. She is a 22lr sharpshooter. She has practiced to the point that she hits gallon jugs usually by the 2nd or 3rd shot at 200 yards with 24 zoomies. She has dedicated her daily shooting to her Ruger American Rimfire.10 inch steel plates at 50, 75,100, 150 yards. She just uses mil dot and holdovers. I can't wait to show her this video. 22lr target practice is her favorite activity in life. Thank you Sir!
That's awesome 👍
How does the 9mm perform on a deer? Its not legal in my state, but I've always thought it would be capable at reasonable distances
Try the 350 legend for deer rifle . I just got it in a ruger ranch and a ar-15.
That's awesome that y'all were able to find a way to accommodate her. It's also awesome that she has an interest in the shooting sports. We need more young people in all aspects of the shooting world.
17hmr would be a nice option if we want to do some longrange shooting with rimmfires. Practically same recoil as 22lr but caliber itself is like laser compared to 22lr. 250 meters half liter sodacan is pretty easy target with hawke scopes where it have hold over marks for distances.
Interesting presentation, but as someone who shoot a lot of 22Lr in competition and hunting I would like too recomend you to keep zero at 50m (55 yards). 22Lr is made to be under 100 m round and if you have zero at 100m this mean every time when you shoot something at 30, 40, 50m you will need to aim bellow the target and that is not so practical at all.
With a 50m zero I dial about 16.6 MIL with Lapua Center-X at 20C out of a 16" barrel to hit 300m plates...
@@sk8snwmx That is almost 5 m drop if you keep 50 m zero, very well done and for sure above average shoter ability.
i agree, for hunting, a 100 yard zero is not a very point and shoot choice. i choose 75M, 1" high at 50 4" low at 100. usually set up hunting on small properties with max 75M range.
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I would want zero at 25 since I'm doing target practice
It’s crazy that in full speed video you can actually watch the bullet lob into the paper. Super cool video man thanks for the education
Yes noticed on 100 and 200 yard targets.
I once saw a .45 acp move at roughly the speed of a hard thrown softball. Stuff like that happens at -40F.
I see the cci stingers through the scope when I shoot at my 100 Meter stand, was a cool feeling the first time I could see it with my own eyes😅
I think to myself, is it possible to see say a 308 or some other rifle round, if the recoil wouldn’t be there?
Was thinking the same thing lol. Such a cool perspective
@@riclindsey329 Indeed, Mr. Lindsey. When I was shooting NRA High Powered Rifle on a local Marine Corps Team, we had M14 rifles (without the full auto switch). On most targets past 200 yards, one could see 'vapor trails'. I think. One had to be behind the shooter, looking down the trajectory to get best results. Using a spotting scope recommended, bare eyes would sometimes work. Better in summer with some humidity in the air.
I am a bit older and to hear the words "22 long rifle" was refreshing.
Dad once told me about his uncle and my grandfather with a 22 short.
They were kids and saw the neighbors boar hog in the distance.
The words " let's shoot next to him and scare him''
The story ended with a dead pig...
Ooh! Can't wait for this.
On my 15-22, shooting 40gr Mini-Mags zeroed at 50 yards I get exactly 6 inches of drop at 100 yards.
Yup, that's exactly what I get out of my rifles with mini-mags. Keep it deadly, the .22LR has the accuracy and energy needed to about 100 yards.
Thanks for the comment. I just scoped my 15 22 and am getting the same results. A guy wonders is it me or the scope. Thanks again
That sounds about right. Strelok has subsonics at seven inches low at 100.
I used to shoot at jackrabbits from the back deck of our house down in Brownsville TX. There was a long flat piece of ground between us and the gulf. Rabbits would come out of an evening and browse around. To keep it fair, we used .22's. It was like dropping in artillery at long ranges. We found that you couldn't find scopes with enough adjustment to sight one in at those ranges. This was back in the 80's so scopes weren't what they are now.. But, with practice, you get good at holdover.
Love this "series" your doing. :) Appreciate the hard work and cost you carry to bring us quality videos. God bless.
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Apart from the prodigious drop, I laughed that you can see the bullet arriving and impacting, unlike the centre-fire rifles. Very cool video sir!
@Cambron Gabaree probably because its a much larger round than the .22 so you can still pick it up on the camera
FYI - bullet drop vs. time is constant regardless of the projectile’s weight. It will drop at exactly the same rate if you just hold it in your fingers and let go. Galileo figured out that objects fall at the same speed regardless of how much they weigh, according to the tales, by dropping different things off the tower of Piza.
The main factor for projectile drop is how long it takes for it to get from the muzzle to the target. Obviously, higher velocity ammo gets to the target faster, and so has less time to drop. The bullet weight, shape, BC, and powder charge all affect the velocity. If you could accurately measure the flight time you could very accurately predict the drop.
A very long time ago, i figured out that a half-furlong is just about the end of the practical application of the .22 long rifle cartridge. I found it to be accurate on the 107 yard ram in the .22 long rifle silhouette game and that I could estimate range out that far. Beyond that, it is a crap shoot. The clincher came many years later at the range where I do most of my shooting now. I saw someone else shooting the 200 yard target with a 22. Through the spotting scope I could see the bullets arching down almost like a home run hit after passing over the centre fielder's head. Range estimation errors of only ten yards each way would produce a wide miss. This video bears all of that out.
All objects fall at the same rate regardless of thier mass. Therefore, bullet drop is equal according to time in flight to target. Doesn't matter if it a 350grain 375 magnum or a 20 gr rimfire, the trajectory is identical
I've been shooting the 22lr at 200 yards for about 5 or more years now. I did the same thing you did and figured out the drop and determined 5.3 mils with Winchester bulk 333 ammo was my sweet spot. I found it to be a great way to practice trigger control and also a pretty good replication of shooting 308 at 500 yards but at a fraction of the cost. I do it in the winter and used to put 4" shotgun clays on the berm at 200 yards and use the holes in the snow to correct my windage. Thanks for the video, I am now going to try and reach out to 500 yards. Your chart helped me save at least 500 rounds. Cheers.
Last year I got a Ruger Precision rimfire in 22 long. I went 100 yard zero drop at 200 was give or take 38 inches. The Precision rimfire is sweet little trainer rifle.
Shooting prairie dogs (multiple shots) at 200 yards with the a Precision 22lr. The challenge is fun.
I remember as a kid doing this. Your standard 22LR cartridge they really started to drop and loose energy after 100 yards. Now put in CCI Stinger? That was a huge improvement over the standard velocity 22.
In reality, the hi-velocity loads lose even more than subs after 100.
@@knokname6466 sorry not the case. That comment defies basic physics. 2 like objects as far as weight and size the one traveling faster will go further hit harder and drop less. I did a lot of shooting with 22 and would shot out to 400 yards or more. The Stingers would hit about 3’ higher at those distances than standard velocity 22.
These bullet drop comparisons are both entertaining and really good value. I have learned a whole lot and all of this without actually trying - Keep them coming 👍👍👍
I didn't think about those rounds being subsonic which explains why there was more bullet drop than I was thinking there should be.
You can adjust by putting your scope on the target. Take one shot then adjust your scope to the bullet . Then go back to shooting the bulleye. You should be spot on.
That how we set up ours!
Go back a few issues in Field and Stream ,there was a gentleman who shot great distances and taught his young daughter to shoot the same with a .22 . Incredible distance way beyond what I thought a rimfire was capable of.
That’s super cool! You can see the bullets flying on the 100 yard shots
Nice video. I love the 22LR for pushing the range boundary, it's very fun. Last year I did a competition in 22LR up to about 290-300m and some consecutive test afterwards. What I noticed is that dialing the scope for 290-300 meters for the 22LR almost coincides as dialing my .308 @ 800m. Since I was swapping the same chassis and scope between the 22LR and .308 it was a nice reference point for the scope. I was using RWS R100 ammo for the 22LR and factory Hornady ELDM 168gr for the .308. On the 22LR I've also noticed that it prefers slower bullets for long range, since faster bullets get trans-sonic very quickly and destabilize more right around 100m. Another fun thing is observing the 22LR bullet with the naked eye lobbing itself like an artillery shell to the target @ 300m.
Sight mine in at 60 yards dead on...and hold over 2in after that every 20 yard past 60...works for me.. Kentucky windage is a great skill!!! Past 120 yards the drop is really fast so the real limits of the 22RF are about a 100 yards or closer for hunting!
True.
I really like these bullet drop videos!!! Makes it super easy to understand and it’s very eye opening! Keep these up!!!
Appreciate you watching
@@WHOTEEWHO yes sir!!!! I love your channel!
Great shooting. I didn't think the 22 L would drop that much but now we all know. Thanks for the lesson and have a blessed night 🌙
I know what the problem is: it's the heavy recoil.
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It’s funny when you said what you were shooting and distance I reach and got my old 1975 gun data book and the old old data said 36” but that’s with a 1.5 center to center and your 2” or more. Good shooting for a 22 at 200yard 👍
Your videos are A -1. You are an excellent speaker. Sir, 200 yards is tough duty for .22lr.
Appreciate you watching
Very cool video. Might interesting to see what some of them hotter rounds do like the CCI Velocitor (1400+).
From 100 yards yesterday it was cool to see them drop right onto the target
Being able to see bullets coming in such a steep incoming trajectory is enlightening
We had a coworker telling us that he's killing prairie dogs at a 1000 yards with a 22.
We said we would meet him on our day off because we have to see this. The next day he says he's having trigger problems and had to take it to a gunsmith and it's all dismantled.
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This man is the reason I changed my dream gun from a Henry to a Marlin 1895 for the 4570. I’m currently working with a Glenfield 60 so I’m excited to see what comes of! Not only to learn a bit more but because I love these videos!
Very good educational video. Thank you. I had similar trajectory with my suppressed
10/22 using CCI standard velocity 40 g. @ 1080 fps. Because of the drop I have had to zero the rifle at 50 yards to use it for squirrel hunting.
Thanks for the shift in content. I’m getting tired of the shooting random crap and making noise on steel with guns Chanels. It’s a nice change of pace. Keep up the good work
Thanks for watching Klent. However unfortunately it is the "random stuff" that gets the big views 🤦♂️🤣. Wish it weren't the case. A majority of people want to be entertained, not educated
My local range has a 6 inch steel plate at 200 yards. I can hit it pretty much all day long with my (inherited from Dad and first gun I ever fired) Remington 582 with a 4x Bushnell scope (rifle and scope date to 1968). I do so off a bag rest and I was luckily able to find a consistent point of aim/hold over to hit at that range. It impresses the hell out of others, except my wife (who has to hold a bit lower and also found her own point of aim) and a few buddies who I let in on the secret of where to hold. Then it is kinda routine.
The best and consistence 22lr rounds i have found is the CCI Blazer 40 grain .... that provides the best grouping for a factory round at 100 yards
So at 1000 yards you can catch .22 bullets with your bare hands ?
When I first began learning all this 'stuff', I loaded the chronograph, four rifles and many (perhaps 10 boxes) different brands of ammo into the truck and spent a few days at the range. Simply chronoing all the ammo in each rifle was time consuming. After getting the speed down, and recorded in each rifle's DOPE book, they were zeroed (at 25 yds) with each type to find the most accurate. This was recorded in the rifle's DOPE book. Second day was the "Range" day. I had targets (full size silhouette B22s) arranged in pairs from fifty to 200 yards. Utilizing the free download of Strelok on my phone, I didn't leave the bench until I was done shooting each rifle. surprisingly, the Strelok was correct with each come-up. The secret was having the correct velocity, Strelok did the rest. For free. Oh... my point being, from 25 to 50 yards, my come-up was three MOA clicks... at 75 it is 15 clicks... at 100, the come-up is 30 clicks-- all together, 30.3 clicks, and 7,95 MOA from 25 to 100 yards. At 200 yards, the come-up is 101 clicks, or 52.9 MOA. I've shot it out to 300 with Strelok dope and it's always been right on, or too close to call.
You just gave me hope that I can take a squirrel at a 1000yds with the ol'22lr.
Love my .22lr but not for long distance. Yeah, there are some people that have all sorts of calculations and rifles and gizmos for their .22lr but for the average shooter it's best to keep it a lot closer. Great stuff brother. Thank you.
WOW that really drops. I would love to see the drop FK Brno, both the 10mm and the 7.5mm. Have a great night Adam! Ruger Rich
Great video and pretty educational. Wouldn't mind to see a comparison between those rounds and some hot rounds at the same distances. Thanks for doing these!!
25, 50, and 75 for a 22 would be interesting because that is realitic ranges for that cal when hunting small game.
I zero my .22 at 60 meters (65 yards), rabbits are generally around that where I shoot and possums tend to be closer and up trees.
The long barrel on the trainer is probably working against you, 16" is about all you need from the .22lr, anything after that is just applying drag to the bullet so your velocities are probably less than you would get out of a shorter barrel thus applying more drop. Love the CZ rimfires.
disagree with the 16 inch barrell- my 45 years of experience tells me longer barrell much more stable and accurate
@@bertfromnz9069 with all due respect, your 45 years of experience should have taught you how to spell barrel… 😉😉🤣🤣. Just givin you a hard time Sir, cheers 🍻
@@bertfromnz9069 just a thought, and I'm not trying to discredit your experience. But I do have a question. Is most of your shooting from a rested rifle, or off hand? Because when shooting off hand, a longer barrel will add a little more forward weight, thus making it easier to hold "steady" on your target. That's just been my experience. When I bought my latest Ruger 10-22 it came with a 16" barrel and I was concerned about accuracy at my normal target range of 100 yards. I can keep several 2" spinning targets spinning till my magazine is empty from a bench and movable bi pod.
I’m glad to see an appreciation and resurgence of the 22 Long Rifle. 22’s are near and dear to my heart as my father taught be first to shoot as many fathers did. He left me with a ‘41 Remington Field Master Pump and a Smith and Wesson 22 wheel gun ( Kit Gun) Of course everyone has to have a Ruger 10/22. Thanks for letting us see some of your fun shooting. That CZ is sweet.
Excellent video, and good, practical information provided. Through reading the comments section, I learned even more. Subscribed.
Thank you for this, I was wondering this same thing and I'm glad someone has made a video showing this. Thank you again
Another good video, thanks. Feedback: A 40gr 1240fps bullet drops about 61-62" @ 200yds through my CZ 455 w/20" barrel. A formula for you: RANGE X DIALED ELEVATION X CONSTANT(.0147). ex: 200yds X 21(my scope setting at 200yds) X .0417 = 61.74".
Nice video. I would love to see someone try to shoot 1000 (actual) yards with a 22lr. All the test I have performed have the bullet destabilizing between 600 and 800 yards. Because of the lost stability they tumble and fall out of the sky around 850 yards. It would be cool to see someone respectable do a 1000 yard test on camera.
Check out Markandsam After Work. They do a lot of ELR shooting in a variety of calibers and the .22 is one of them. You’ll be impressed.
Lots of 22lr fans ! I want one but I need some handgun ammo 1st...really enjoy this series.
Ideal range to set 22 or is 50 yards. 100 yards is pushing 22 lr
Dude, pushing videos like a mad man!
Love this new series! Very interesting to see the results of different calibers. Keep up the great content brother!
Appreciate you watching Troy
Nice, I have always wanted to know how much a 22 lr drops
I think your videos are awesome
About 13 inches at 100 yd
Nice video, keep my 22LR CZ 457 sight in 50, and then hold over on my Vortex 6-24-50 FFP for longer gongs, e.g I hold over 8 MOA and ring the gongs at 150 yards shot by shot... it gets that simple since 22lr is pretty much sight in for maximum point blank range which in reality is 75yards :) so for more precise application sight in for 75, for shooting at gongs 6 inches or so wide 50yards sight in zero is way better since your shots under 50 yards are going to be hitting plates as well without needing aiming low... just keep target in crosshair and you are set... enjoy :) our children certainly do enjoy it too
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I grew up with 22 on a farm..we used to shoot at 1/2 mile..I didn't realize how high I was holding above target ..thanks..definitely learned something
Yes , when set for 100 yard zero, at 50 yards the bullet will impact at 5inches . I was using my Bruno LR .22 using Winchester Subsonic 22.nice video
Cool. My favorite guns to shoot are my two Marlin bolt guns. One (Model 25) I use only 22 short. A real tack driver at 15 to 30 yards. For LR bullets, I use the Model 781. Extremely good at 50 to 100 yards.
A little tip for 22LR shooters wanting to zero in a new gun/scope. Zero it in at 25 yards. It will be close at 100 yards (due to the trajectory of the bullet) and then you can fine tune it at 100 yards. Saves bullets that way. (Unless you know it's already on paper at 100 yards)
A note on those figures at 1000 yds.
You were showing 18 ft lb energy at 1000 yards and blowing it off as a whiff. 18 ft lbs will kill small game.
British use half that energy in pellet guns to take rats, squirrels, and rabbits. It's probably less because they are rating muzzle energy, which means it'll be a good bit less at the target.
My 25 ft lb muzzle energy pellet gun takes them at 65 yards.
Just saying.
Really good video and information.
Thanks for sharing.
Well, about 12 ft/lbs in .22 cal is enough to penetrate temple part of human adult scull. I think that figure is for 15 grain pellet. Don't know how the things stand with .22 LR 40 grain bullet
Good stuff! 👍 It was fun watching the boolats just kind of dropping in at 200. 😂
Almost like watching a softball pitcher drop em in over the plate.
Thanks for sharing Who tee.
I saw a CZ 22 lr in a local pawn shop ( don t remember the model ) and was thinking about purchasing it to do some target shooting. I ve got 200 yards out back and thought it would be interesting, fun and affordable to shoot.
Hope you bought it.
i have a 455 with the long barrel an adjustible iron sights , the rear is adjustible , just fits me perfect my favorite g , acurate quiet high quality , ps would think about getting in the future the 22 and 17 hmr combo rifle .
I'm 14, and I got my MARK II GXP Savage 22LR. I used some Blazer ammo and hit a 4-inch target at 300 yards. I was crouching on the floor and used a Field Pod Max to hold my rifle. I had maxed out my scope turrets in elevation, so I had to do some Kentucky windage and aim a bit high over the target. It took me about 10 tries, but then I heard a ding, and it fell over. My scope has no mil dots or hash marks, just a plain old X reticle. I had my gun sighted in at 40 yards.
Lots of drop but man that is a great group for a .22 at 200 yards .. excellent shooting WtW
Late to the party, and still going to watch it. I'm a big rimfire fan, should be a good one.
Love the series and ive also seen an improvement in the video's lately
Thanks Jonathan. Appreciate you watching
9.8 meters per second squared... that is the rate of gravitational acceleration. Whether you drop a bullet from your fingers or shoot it out of a barrel (level orientation) they both drop at the same speed. The faster the bullet the further it will travel in that amount of the time, but the time remains the same. Until you start pointing the barrel upward.
Good point to add devildog.
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@joal incontrol That is precisely correct. Those snappy little rounds like the .220 Swift doing 4000 or even 4500 feet per second cover a lot of distance in a short amount of time and they cover the near distances so fast that they may only drop a couple inches at 200-300 yards. But those light bullets bleed off energy quickly and after 300 yards they start to drop off. That's why you don't see anyone shooting long range competition with .220 Swift or cartridges like it. I'd love to have one but they burn barrels so fast that you need change barrels after less than a thousand rounds and that's kind of an expensive proposition.
But wait, the box says it will shoot a mile 😃😃
The max range is 2,157 yards. It's on the chart. Aim at a 45 degree angle or so, it will land more than a mile away.
CCI Green for the win. The grease keeps the chamber pressure up for accuracy.
LOL the 200-yard target is like throwing a dirt clod at Twenty Yards you just kind of lob them in there, good info though thanks for your time. Hey to Paul Jr. 🤘🤟✌
I would like to see this same test done with hypervelosity rounds like Vipers.
THANKS BRO, I USE A RUGER 10/22 CAUSE I HAVE 3 RUPTURED DISCS AND CAN'T CARRY ALOT OF HEAVY AMMO. THIS WAS GOOD INFORMATION FOR ME. GOD BLESS ! 👍🙏
A 37.5 inch drop between 100 and 200 surprises me. I would expect half that.
I'm in the process of starting an NRL-22 competition at our clubs range, this is good information. Thank you for your time ⏲ 🙏
We could see the bullets track just before they hit the target... neat...
22 lr drop from the chart is about 3000 inches (250 ft) @ 1000 yds. Therefore the shooting angle (theta of the right triangle) is about 4.8 degrees. Here’s the math: base = (1000 X 3) or 3000 ft. height = 250 ft. hypotenuse = 3010 ft. The sin of theta is about .083. Using a scientific calculator theta is 4.8
We shoot longer range often (200-300 yards) and have done 500 yards with .22. The best ammo you can use and sort by rim thickness. Obviously a good condition day with minimal wind.
Lapua Center X, Midas and Eley Yellow is what has worked best for my rifle.
Your BC is high IMO on that ammo.
For a practical zero, POA at 20-25 yards., back on POA at about 65 yards and 5"low at 100.... and for practical purposes that's about it for the little .22RF...
Greetings, from Go Big Red. As always you are one of my very best to watch on the tube. Very informative material here with 22 LR being one of the top 5 caliber’s. Stay safe down in TN.
Thanks for watching David!
That's alot of Drop at 200, I didn't realize it was that much Thanks Whotee
When we used to buy 22LR the end of the ammo box said “warning this ammo will travel a mile” guess it fill if you lob it high enough
Haha yeah.. if ya send it off like a mortar 😂
Funny, you buy any other ammo, .416 .456 .300WM etc, no warning how many mile(s) it will travel (Laughing) BUT BOY, YOU BETTER LOOK OUT FOR THAT .22LR MILE TRAVEL!
This is the coolest video I will watch today...we are plinkers with lever Rossi and Henry...used Norma to sight at 50 yards, and blow up lots of any brand high velocity bulk at 100 yards...nowhere near your accuracy but hitting golf balls at 100 yards with flunky ammo entertains the sh_t out of us...😀
thanks for writing the yardage on the targets ; easier to follow !
That was pretty informative. Bought a few .22's lately to be able to plink a little cheaper. Thank you Sir!
Love how you can see the rounds flying at 200
My 'standard' .22 lr is CCI Standard velocity or CCI AR for my rifle. The AR ammo (just advertising, folks) is advertised at 1250 or thereabouts. I'll have to chronograph it and share. I do know the drop from 50 yds to 100 yards is less than eight inches. I have a Zastava rifle, made like a grown up rifle (as the CZ is) and is old enough to be marked "Yugoslavia".
The bullet drop between 100 and 50 yards with standard velocity .22 lr is about 6 to 7 M.O.A. depending on the ammo.
That drop was more than I would have guessed...... but now we know
I often shoot .22 Long Rifle out to 100 yards with iron sights. My Remington 512, with most ammo, I have it sighted in at 50 yards, and can hold just at the top of a 3 inch plate and hit it every time. Out of my guns, I've found that the Norma Tac 22 performs rather poor at 100 yards, even compared to most cheap bulk ammo. Which is funny, because the Tac 22 seems to outperform everything at 50 yards.
It is really good ammo to sight with, we used it at 50 yards also...at 100 yards we prefer mini-mags, but normally plink with similar high velocity cheaper bulk of any brand...we don't really bother being uber precise, we figure when we hit a golf ball at 100 yards (that can take 1-10 shots with bulk ammo), we aren't doing terrible out of a rossi and a henry lever actions...
Bullet and gun doesn't seem to match.try using ELEY/ICI.bullet.I have dropped a deer at 500 yards with it
Adam you are a confirmed sniper!
Thats about right, i zero at 50 and use about 17-18 moa to get reasonably close to golf balls
love when you do these 3 distances.
I get a 1 inch group at 100 yards in the shoulder (no butt rest) using a modified no grip flat surface tripod at least 2 inches wider than a completely flat forestock support and sub sonic Lapua Centre-X 1073fps from a single shot 1963 Anschutz 1413 by comparison, the bullet drop from 25 yards to 50 metres is about 1 MOA, and from 25 yards to 100 yards is about 8 MOA.
I don't undertake rimfire Competition here beyond 100 yards (not found one).
Mind you, it's a ~27.5 inch barrel, so it might retain more energy.
Kool facts about the most common used caliber!! Appreciated!!
Hey Man, thanks a million for all your great videos! Keep up wonderful work of yours!
Appreciate you watching
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR POSTING THIS VIDEO AND 22LR BULLET DROP CHART......
I ACTUALLY RELOADED 22LR DURING THE AMMO SHORTAGE JUST TO GO PLINKING.....
I HAVE BEEN SHOOTING 50YDS 100YDS 200YDS AND 300YDS AND MY BULLET DROP IS VERY SIMILAR.....
I HAVE NOT FOUND DROP CHARTS THAT GO OUT AS FAR SO WE ARE BOTH VERY CLOSE EVEN DIFFERENT AMMO...
FEDERAL AND WINCHESTER MUZZLE VELOCITY ARE BOTH AROUND 1200FPS
ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU AGAIN
👍👍 thanks for watching Jeffery
Yep sight in at 50. And it’s a tac driver. Use bdc reticle scope for your 75 100 125. It’s a lot of fun
cant wait for this one
I can confirm the bc for the norma tac 22 ammo is .150 so your chart would be fairly accurate so long as your MV is similar to the test barrel.
I love shooting.22lr. It's just fun.
Great video. You can actually see the bullets traveling into tje paper.
I will say that Norma LR22 Tac has dropped two pigs with neck shots. Close shots at less than 15 yards. Thanks for sharing.