Everything you need to know about ADJUSTMENTS | Calendar Spreads |
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- This is the continuation of the previous podcast on Calendar Spreads by Vineet Tandon. There were a lot of doubts on how to do adjustments and in this podcast Vineet breaks down his trading setup and goes deep down into doing adjustments in simulators on Stockmock. This is done for monthly and weekly calendar spread strategy.
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Timeline:
00:00 Teaser
00:39 Introduction
01:31 Guest Intro
06:06 Calendar Spreads - Adjustments & Simulations (Outline)
07:27 Common Problems in Monthly Calendar 40 DTE Setup
13:38 How to do adjustments?
33:43 Monthly Strategy Simulations
01:11:16 Add on tips
01:14:30 Biweekly Calendar Adjustments
01:20:46 Biweekly Strategy Simulations
01:28:50 4DTE Adjustments
01:34:52 Closing thoughts
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Excellent "Phadoo" knowledge sharing experience. Keep the charity rolling over.
This session proves that experience in handling big moves will teach you lifetime lessons. Thereafter markets turn friendly from scary.Thank you Vineet sir for sharing such invaluable insights.
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It is easy to adjust in trending market, It is difficult to adjust in volatile maret Like huge gap up and hap down
@@user-fn3vh5rk3k You need to watch full video.... There was a up move of 1500 with gap down of 500 and again a gap up of 1000 points... So the worst case was shown..... Adjustments are simple if you know what to do else it's a hopeless case for any strategy...
Jun and july premium difference is not much. So avoid or is it good?
Vineet sir, I loved your session on Stock mock. Both sessions cleared all my concepts regarding the calendar strategy. I have backtested for one year and have been profitable every month. I really want to thank you for sharing everything with everyone free of cost.
I wish, sir, God may bless you with happiness and prosperity. I have learned a lot from your session. Kindly do a butterfly session and keep blessing us with your knowledge.
Super techniques of adjustment. Most admiring is the explanation of reason behind of each adjustment. What else you need to learn. Awaiting Butterfly + related adjustments. Thanks for this podcast. ❤
Finally!! thank you team for doing this session 🙌
Great session sir. Thanks a lot. Will watch it multiple times
Fantastic Session. Kudos to Stockmock Team n Vineet sir👍
Thank you so much both of you..
Amazing episode. Waiting for butterfly.
very nice . loved it
Wonderful session
one of the best session till today i have watch lotd of podcast read many books but this session is god of all option trading session .
waiting for butterfly
Great job
long wait thanks
Good pack of knowledge
thanks a lot sir
Waiting for next session (BUTTERFLY)
Thank u soo much sir❤
Plz sir ke saath 1_2 podcast aur kijye ...with different stratgy ...best guest till date❤
best part of these podcasts are nitish exactly behaves and asks the questions from beginners mind ...so nothing is left behind unanswered....best podcasts after many days on youtube
Thanks 🙏
@@vineettandon7298Vineet sir, I loved your session on Stock mock. Both sessions cleared all my concepts regarding the calendar strategy. I have backtested for one year and have been profitable every month. I really want to thank you for sharing everything with everyone free of cost.
I wish, sir, God may bless you with happiness and prosperity. I have learned a lot from your session. Kindly do a butterfly session and keep blessing us with your knowledge.
Best video on calendar spread adjustment, no one have explained such adjustment with the help of premium till date on TH-cam...
Salute both you...
Waiting for butterfly
Thanks for the appreciation
@@vineettandon7298 hello sir....fantastic explanation...thank u for explaining simply 😊
I have a question....i have just started backtesting and the question arise....sir after a decent up move if i m rolling over my put sell by 100 points in BN then still its price is remaining below 50% of my call sell leg....nd this is with my 1st adjustment only....so what to do in that scenario? Bcz for premium difference around 60-70% ...i need to roll up my put sell by 500 points
Pls guide me....nd yes this is the scenario with 40 DTE
very good sir
Thanks for this session. Waiting for butterfly session now.
Was waiting for this
Finally video aa hi gayi 😊😊😊😊
Thanks
A very helpful session. And eagerly waiting for butterfly. Please do the session sooner. Thank you again for this knowledge sharing session.
Very good👍👍
Vineetji,your part1 session on the calendar,changed my perspective about calendars and in which scenario to deploy.thanks
Thanks buddy
thx sir
thanks nitishji & veenetji for making such a awsome or knowledge full podcast on adjustment in calender spread.i saw this podcast more then 3 times steps by step..... in 6th adjustment strike price choose 3rd jan insted of 25 jan....i try this adjusment in stimulator for practice......thanks
Yes,it was done and changed to the monthly expiry 😅
priceless podcast very valuable for me as i made good 2% return last month in nifty .todays session is so sweet like tandon sirs smile. thankyou stock mock. waiting for butterfly. english subtitles will be helpful sir
😊
Nice session. Kindly share pdfs of the both the sessions. Eagerly waiting for Butterfly session
@Nitish Thank you very much to introduce such a adjustment wizad to your vewers. Kindly add english subtitles as your earlier video.
Thanks
Very nice session…please explain butterfly strategy
Thank 😊😊😊😊
Very good session, now waiting for butterfly session.
Sir after take position what type of vix favour us upwards or downwards?
eagerly waiting for your ironfly session!
Great session. Been trading directional spreads and Iron Condors. Occassionally Calendars. Will use Calendars more henceforth. I am also in Jammu since last 4 years.
Sahi hai.... meet up
Priceless🎉 , waiting for next podcast , how to manage big gap up and gap down yeah bi cover up krna next video mai plz , thnx a lot ❤
Big gap up like 700/800 has been covered, just follow the rules.... Be it up or down the process is same
Butterfly 🦋 want to learn this strategy with adjustment
very nice session...Please have session on Butterfly
verynice Nitish .... jordar
Thanks for such a wonderful session, i have one doubt , in basket for 40DT setup , if we put orders on limit price for straddles and their hedges, then suppose buy leg executed or sell leg executed but the other leg still in pending order due to limit price then how to do overcome from this situation ..
Sir hamesa pahele Buy kare badme sell
1. kya spot ka every 500 point move aane pe adjustment krna he respectively 1st 2nd & 3rd adjustment rule ?? 1000 point movement aane pe direct 2nd rule apply kr na he ?? (3rd rule ko dhyn me rakhte hue...)
2. CE strike In the Money ho jane pr hum use firse spot pe sell krenge ...tb premium diffrence CE & PE ka 60% se less ho to kya kre?
Nice explanation, thanks for taking all these efforts.. Requesting to add subtitle in English .. unable to follow in few cases
how do you deal with spikes which cause profit erosion when booking..i am facing this problem a lot...yestrdayi was able to see profit of 1600/- but when booked i got 129/-, ..today profit of 1500 turned into 632 loss...can you please tell how to swiftly exit ..
what adjustment to do..if market reversed completely?
Thank u sir
Please make video on butterfly and it's adjustment
Yes , planned.... But will take some time
your stockmock doesn't allow backtesting of past 5years data i.e. during COVID19 period .please help me out.
Once again excellent informative session from Vineetji. Eagerly waiting for session on Butterfly. Also Kindly explain how to put additional calender in Biweekly on swift movement @1:18:05 in video
Add on PE calendar can only be deployed if we are unable to manage with CE premiums. Add on PE calendar can be deployed on the expiry week as decay will take care of any negative MTM that has happened due to fall.... But it means that we will carry biweekly on till Tuesday....
Thanks for the great session.
Can you please let us know when is the time and date to deploy the following strategies for both Nifty and bank Nifty?
Bi Weekly
4 DTE
pls chk previous podcast, all things are discussed in detail
Please share the ppt of both sessions
Looking forward to session on Butterfly
Kitne move par adjuament start kare?nifty me
Sir only thing remaining is suddenly vix fall tab aap kya karte ho or tab kya karna. Aapne podcast bola mid April mein sudden drop hua but pura explain nahi kiya aapne podcast mein. Thank you
Nowadays 500 points movement in BN is very normal, its happening
multiple times in a day itself, how to handle this ?
perfect strategy only probem is spread during deployment and Adjustment, I have exprienced profit in MTM when i book its actually a loss because of the spread. Is this issue is for me only..?
Use limit orders bhai, MTM won't affect when u r on liquid strikes and especially if u r in expiry month, spreads won't be there....
knoledgeble sir
Sir very nice. When butterfly session will come. Please do that as early as possible.
Thank you
Please share the pdf of this presentation please
Sir I want to check can we just use put calendars instead of both call and put reason being put is comparatively cheaper then call calendars also when there is a gap down put IV increase where call IV crashes and call leg loose more so can we just use puts ?
Yes, PE premiums are near to 90%>>>> can go with that
@@vineettandon7298 short premium more then 90% long premium? That’s possible only monthly right
Thanks this is possible only with monthly? If I want to use 4 DTE set up I have to add CE leg?
Hi Vineet Sir, Nitish Sir, your session provides a lot of clarity on adjustments.
I would like to receive your adjustment recommendation for a specific week that had huge volatility. The week is 5th Jan 2024.. please help here. Thanks
@Stockmock, Thank you very much for these sessions.
@Vineet, The session is very much informative and simple. Definitely it's going to help the people who are looking for realistic ROI. The series of deployments helps get more ROI. I have a question that, how do you manage the various deployments like 40, 14, 4, 1 0 DTE, one after the other or simultaneously. If simultaneously, there will be too many trades, which might lead to confusion. Please share the best practice, if you are following any approach.
I am not an experience trader but after watching this calendar Video, I have created a plan. Will deploy 40DTE trade with 50% capital and try to get 3-4% on deployed capital. We need to close 40DTE by 6 to 7 of next month. Once 40 DTE trade is closed deploy 14 DTE trade with 60 - 70% of capital and try to get 2 %. It will help us to learn and understand 1 trade at a time. Please share your thought. And Repeat the Cycle - 40 DTE - 14 DTE 40 DTE 14 DTE
I've things going on simultaneously. I"ve three account, so one is purely for 40 dte and biweekly, second is for 4/2 DTE and minor one with 20 lac goes for 1/0 DTE... capital is always engaged accordingly.....
@@AakashDoshi3077 looks feasible
@@vineettandon7298 Thank You Vineet Sir. Will grow slowly and consistently. Your reply boosts my confidence.
Nope in simulation and in the actual market it always differs. Some day move of 200-300or may be 400 points occurs when u simulate it give effects of smooth move means points per hour (for 400 points ÷ trading hrs) whereas moves some time moves very fast which increase volatility n vega , which cannot be simulated.
simulation ke dauran pichhale month ki date par jane se stockmock simulation ki price current day ki price par hi rahati hai, ye kyun ho rha hai
hello. i am your regular subscriber one suggestion you should start a small support desk as sometimes i find difficulties in updating stock mock as we have bigger position sometimes i am helpless.......please look into it
Hi please explain how we can do hedging in 4 and 1 dte set up
Pls chk part 1 of podcast...
Sir in part 1 U mentioned abt bull call and bear put spread ,would you be able to elaborate on that pls like which expiries to use and also I have seen loss in one side offset profit on another so doesn't provide hedging.
tandon ji, thank you once again for your adjustments. But, wanted to share a small gap in the explanation. At 53:35, you can see that you the monthly buy was of 3rd Jan 24 instead of 25th Jan., 2024. Well I am yet to completely see the video and do the backtest. But I could not resist sharing this info with you as I am fully in sync with your explanation. Thank you once again for a wonderful learning content. Will soon comment once I am fully done with your video
Yes it was done by mistake butvwas corrected at same time ....pls chk that too.😂
@@vineettandon7298Tandon ji. I am very happy to see your reply. Kudos to you.. May we see a lot of content from you and may you help others whose wishes in turn shall bless you in all respects. Thank you once again.
At the same time, I hope that my above comment was in no way intended to question you.. I hope you understand this and move ahead with a happy heart. thank you
@@narayana_is_learning no, it was pointed by someone else too.... So I replied to him too....no offense here sir.... As far as other videos , not sure....making TH-cam videos is tougher than Trading... 😂😂😂
Sir I have a one question
If market gap up with 1000 point what should we do go to step 1 or step 2?
Step 2
how about monthly 40 DTE and bi weekly for nifty ?? is it the same for BN .
Wanted to say this was absolutely a wonderful session.
Nifty adjustments are more rapid and MTM swings are high.... For nifty go with diagonal calendar
@@vineettandon7298 hopefully you can do a vid on butterflies and diagonal calendar adjustments too
The idea is to see video at least 3-4 times every time things will be clearer and noteworthy and Pls dont overconfidently believe ur memory...start writing things 😀
practice and practice,,,,, 2/3 months and you will be more than confident of setup and adjustments
1) why we enter at 34 dte instead of 40 dte for monthly strategy. any specific reason ?
Coz prior to that market was flat....so profit was there on the table.... It's the adjustments process that was needed, and that happened after deployment...
@@vineettandon7298 thank you sir.
Can anyone summarise the adjustments here?
Please make sessions of option buying algo trading (if any such trader exists)...people are fed up of option selling algos...bcz 98% trader dont have big capital....
Plz make butterfly session also
STT and Other charges will be more than Brokerage which is more painful than brokerage. In this Strategy, we buying/selling high premium strikes.
Definitely if u trade with 2/3 lots, then u better skip it... Pls chk a sample contract note then u will understand... Let's say u get near to 25k minus 2k as everything ...still u r left with good amount to take home.... Fear of these charges is irrelevant..... That much charges you pay on 0DTE trading plus losses that keep on accumulating...
Very good explanations but can we have one or two more examples on simulator for more clarity
Bro, time constraints.... The example chosen have all the moves , gap up , gap down , massive gap up of 800 plus .... Well more examples can definitely give more clarity, but you can always test and let me know where you face and issue..
Bhai ye sirf stock mock par hi trading karte hai ya real mai bhi karte hai
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Bhai ye session k liye in logo ke kitne dino ka mehanat hota hai 2 hrs k video k liye ye chart me jaake ek aaisa trade chunte hai jaha inka bataya huwa sara adjusment apply hota hai kuch adjustment inke hisaab se us jagah set hota hai aur kuch adjustment chart k hisaab se ye apne adjustment rule me add karte hai woh bhi sirf hum jaise bewakoofo k liye jo log no loss strategy k chakkar me pura samay in logo k video search karke dekh k kush hote hai ki mast strategy milgaya bolke, fir jab live karne lagte hai toh sab ultah chalta hai add fir se hum next video search karne lagte hai
If you need to book this on 4-5th of the month than better close the short straddle and make the straddle of 1st week expiry after first 500 point move.
Debit will be high and I don't trade with high debit..... I need to sit longer for realisations and delyabmove will kill ur profits...
Pdf ?
Sir, Can you also make podcast with vibhore sir
Titli ka adjustment... Waiting eagerly
Will take time....
Can we do in nifty?
Yes but adjustments will be rapid than banknifty
Kitne point pe kre sir?
Thanks please plan a butterfly session also.
Will take some time
Most important line:" Adjustment aapki dimag mein honi chahiye "👍
Sir, in this video we learn how to tackle the market when it moves in one direction, but in April, 2024, the market moved in one direction and again reversed. How to tackle this type of market??
Adjustment process is same .... It will be either a diagonal calendar or a classic calendar...
Thank you for replying Sir, I have tried a lot, but not able to manage the April, 2024 month . If you please do a video on April 2024 adjustments, then it will be very helpful for us.
1:13:16 par buy far month to 200 wala illiquid hoga
It's just an example ..... If not liquid then shift PE sell to buy leg..... Simple hai....
Butterfly setup
SIR 4 DT ME BUY AND SELING LEG ME DIFFERANCE KITNA RAKHE
no difference, both to be same...
Vineet Sir please show some volatile month where market move 2 % up and down in volatile market
Bhai , you send me the dates, I will post a short video if possible...but details I need.....
Major gap down ko kaise handle kare ??
see complete video, there was a gap up 800 plus....
Sir 4dte and 2 dte ka bhi adjustment monthly jaisa tough week adjust krke dekha dete !
Time constraints..... We already stretched to near 2 hours..... Follow the rules....as given ...
@@vineettandon7298 Thanku sir
Calendar spreads can do in all scenarios like vix 10-24
Yes, can be done
Would like to see weekly adj or 4dte
Show ua ur full screen in video to understand
क्या हम 40DTE Nifty50 में कर सकते हैं?
Please reply Sir 🙏
I always prefer banknifty over nifty, but you can do there now as lot size has just decreased and MTM swings will be low. But keep in mind adjustments will be rapid and you don't have the liberty to miss them...
@@vineettandon7298 BANKNIFTY 500 point के move में adjustment करते हैं तो Nifty50 में कितना point का move per adjustment करना होगा Sir
Please reply Sir Ji 🙏
@@ravikantsingh1020 adjustments are as per premiums.... Chk conditions to adjustment in video and follow them
Hi Guys, Is it possible for you to add English Subtitles to the video. I dont know Hindi, hence English subtitles would be easier for me to understand the concepts well. Part 1 of the video had English subs and I was able to understand the concepts well.
work is on...
Stt, Etc, Slippages etc
If u r getting profit of say 25k in a testing month, and that 1000 that brokerage we see in the case tested covers attl the taxes... Slippage part you remove another 1000 odd.....still comfortable with over 22/23k ..... The problem is unless u deploy it , you won't be able to understand....
Please bring Rakesh Pujara
Please add subtitles in english as earlier video sir
V,,erygood session,,,,,, I m your yearly subscriber,,,,last week at some time there was not showin graff,,,, try to reach you but cant pl letus know how to reach you when your plat form not working ,,,v do like and share but , sir pl make it easy to reach you ,sir itna to hamare liy kar do,,,,,,by the way nice content in this podcast......thanks to You and Mr vineet ji,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,